DON’T NEED A WEATHERMAN TO KNOW WHICH WAY THE WIND BLOWS

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers are bleeding veterans faster than a four-team expansion draft—and it feels so good. Todd McLellan has arrived with a ton of experience and a lot of currency, meaning he can cut a $4.5M defenseman like Nikita Nikitin confident the boss will sign off. It hasn’t always been this way. Let’s have a look at where some of the money is as we speak:

  • D Nikita Nikitin $4.5M, sent down to Bakersfield awhile back, crickets since.
  • G Ben Scrivens, $2.3M, sent down to Bakersfield awhile back, crickets since.
  • D Andrew Ference, $3.25M, played one of the first six NHL games. Pressbox regular.
  • R Teddy Purcell, $4.5M, currently playing a depth role. Passed over for 1R duty by ALL available hands last night in Vancouver. May be sweating bullets with the callup of Andrew Miller.

This isn’t small dollars. These four men represent $14,550,000 million, or about 20 per cent of the cap. That’s a lot of wasted dollars and we don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.

WHO’S MOVING DOWN THE DEPTH CHART?

A few veterans are losing playing time.

  • Andrew Ference 18:52 to 15:12 (down 3:40)
  • Mark Fayne 17:56 to 15:44 (down 2:02)
  • Teddy Purcell 17:09 to 15:58 (down 1:11)
  • Benoit Pouliot 16:37 to 15:51 (down 46 seconds)
  • Rob Klinkhammer 11:04 to 10:19 (down 45 seconds)

Not really fair to Andrew Ference, every chance he’ll see increased time when he gets his next chance. Todd McLellan will probably change his lineup some time this week (unless they keep winning) so maybe we see him then.

I used to say ‘the Edmonton Oilers are a losing organization and they do things for reasons other than winning’ but that appears to be a false statement. Or at least it is when suggesting the Oilers make roster decisions on things like ‘how would it look?’ or showing up veterans.

I don’t know for sure about a turn north, but the wind is blowing in a decidedly different direction.

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Steve4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwATvALiQ_8

I’ll just leave this here

John Chambers

Many many bad contracts. No horrendous contracts.

The Oilers after the ’15-’16 season will have tremendous payroll agility.

ruotsalainen

As LT has said many times, Chiarelli was keeping his powder dry with regards to the contracts.

I have no doubt he thought long and hard about buying out Nikitin, but with both him and Purcell coming off the books after this season he thought it better not to.

Lots of money off the books and one less year on the books for when he buys out Ference.

It is a little bit of a shame to lose one year of McDavid’s entry level contract, but unfortunately there was some paste(that is what would happen if the powder was no longer dry right?) left over from the previous regime.

RexLibris

John Chambers:
Many many bad contracts. No horrendous contracts.

The Oilers after the ’15-’16 season will have tremendous payroll agility.

They’re going to need to budget about $15 million for McDavid/Yakupov alone if things go well.

Another $8 million for Nurse/Draisaitl, depending.

That dead cap space right now, mercifully, isn’t costing the team anything a la Blackhawks, but three of those four come off the books naturally this summer and the fourth will be removed by buyout this summer.

They will still need to be shrewd buyers this summer, be it by FA or trade.

JD_Wry

RexLibris: They will still need to be shrewd buyers this summer, be it by FA or trade.

Agreed. They can no longer afford to make bad moves wrt pro acquisitions, and after seeing the amount of money MacT/Howie have tied up in dead cap space, here’s hoping their influence has been curtailed.

RexLibris

JDï™: Agreed. They can no longer afford to make bad moves wrt pro acquisitions, and after seeing the amount of money MacT/Howie have tied up in dead cap space, here’s hoping their influence has been curtailed.

If by curtailed you mean jersey’d and rabbit-punched several times in the solar plexus before being dropped to the ice and carted away in a stretcher…then yes, curtailed will do.

John Chambers

RexLibris,

That’s right – they have one shot at adding another big contract – it had better be the right pick. Which is fundamentally why I found Seabrook to be a risky proposition.

Also – don’t forget raises to the goaltenders.

vishcosity

I do recall talk around how impossible it was for free agents to even consider Edm at the time. That MacT got anyone at all to join that roster was a bit surprising to me. Lesser money to play elsewhere would be almost a no brainer in every situation.

Thankfully it worked for Clarkson at least. Could you imagine if that went through, on top of all the above?

stush18

I wouldn’t exactly count Purcell as wasted money LT. He is still on the roster.

Purcell doesn’t get enough credit. He is actually back checking quite well, and has pulled a nuge and stolen the puck from behind.

But he biggest thing is the controlled zone exits and entries.

If he was a half step quicker (not faster, and there is a difference) he wouldn’t get half the cap thrown his way.

He probably would also be worth his contract too though.

JD_Wry

RexLibris: If by curtailed you mean jersey’d and rabbit-punched several times in the solar plexus before being dropped to the ice and carted away in a stretcher…then yes, curtailed will do.

I would settle for ‘kicked in the shin under the table’, whenever either one speaks.

You seem edgy tonight, Rex.

AsiaOil

Another reason the job was left “half done” this past summer is the reality that you need to have something worth buying with that cap space. Happy with the acquisitions they made – and happy they passed on guys like Franson who would be an upgrade this year and not good enough by next year. If you are going to fix this, fix it right, and don’t sign new guys just for the short-term.

I figure we need another RW power forward for the top 6 and a 2 way RH dman with some offense for the top 4. Get the right guys and this rebuild is largely complete after the young d settle in. Trade bait if needed is:

Eberle or Yak (only 1)
Shultz
Fayne or Gryba (only 1)
any 2016 draft pick after #1

This is the perfect opportunity for an “I told you so” on those contracts, including Purcell’s which most people disagreed with me on last year. But I will try to be more productive and say that at least all but Ference are done this year.

Still a crying shame. $14.5m could have fetched at least two bona-fide D with room to spare. Oilers could have been playoff bound this year were it not for that wasted money.

But 12 GF 16 GA in 6 games. The GA is good. I believe the offense will come around with the PP and when Eberle gets back. Team should be about a 2.7 GF and 2.7 GA team this year, if I had to guess. 85 points on the Bettman scale and right on track.

The argument heard most was that the Oilers weren’t in cap trouble so it’s just Katz’ money so who cares about overpaying Schultz, Nikitin, Ference, Purcell. Well, here we are. If you also add Schultz to the pile we are talking 18m spent on a bottom pair D, 2 press box or demoted D, and a 4th line winger who is slow and slowing.

Oilers can’t afford to make any more mistakes like these in the future. Hopefully Chia has learned from his Boston cap spending days.

vishcosity

Thierry Meyssan reports the entire electronic systems of the US military are shut down in Northern Syria, at the US base in Turkey, and suggests the Russians can do it from a satellite, boat, or truck. http://www.voltairenet.org/article189043.html

wtf?

Woodguy

I used to say ‘the Edmonton Oilers are a losing organization and they do things for reasons other than winning’ but that appears to be a false statement. Or at least it is when suggesting the Oilers make roster decisions on things like ‘how would it look?’ or showing up veterans.

Its a new day!!

A breath of very fresh air!!!

The Boys on the Bus are sitting next to the shitter!!!

Hossanna!!! Hossanna to the highest!!!

Wooot!!!

AsiaOil

Well for anyone who doubts that Chia is in control – just how do you think it looks when this much money is sent to the AHL, bottom rung or PB? I won’t whine about the waste – will merely be content that the bleeding has finally stopped and better days are ahead. This team was so close to an utter melt down if mgmt wasn’t purged – and now it is in safe hands – it’s a god damn miracle. Hossanna indeed.

leadfarmer

stush18:
I wouldn’t exactly count Purcell as wasted money LT. He is still on the roster.

Purcell doesn’t get enough credit. He is actually back checking quite well,and has pulled a nuge and stolen the puck from behind.

But he biggest thing is the controlled zone exits and entries.

If he was a half step quicker (not faster, and there is a difference) he wouldn’t get half the cap thrown his way.

He probably would also be worth his contract too though.

And if my aunt had an Adam’s apple she’d be my uncle.

Zelepukin

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Still a crying shame. $14.5m could have fetched at least two bona-fide D with room to spare. Oilers could have been playoff bound this year were it not for that wasted money.

So if we had that 14.5 back in July, who would we have overpaid to hopefully acquire on D? Mike Green? There was not much for D this year other than Sekera. Beauchemin is 35, Oduya would have been a 3-4D but didn’t sign till the 15th, so we could have grabbed him if he actually wanted to play here.

khildahl

Well. My wife has people over to watch the election. There may be a fist fight over the TV remote if someone tries to move off this ball game.

geowal

I’m not getting the Purcell wasted money thing. Yes, he’s overpaid, but so was Gagner. Would this not be the last year of his contract? Does anyone wish he was still here?
Yes, Purcell could have been bought out, but j don’t think he’s THAT bad, he does some good things. I don’t think he belongs in the minors. So failing a trade for a low draft pick, which may not have been out there, what do folks wish had been done?

All the alternatives either hit the cap next year or hurt the team short term.
Edit: imo he just doesn’t fit the rest of the group, as he wasn’t a signing.

JD_Wry

khildahl: Well. My wife has people over to watch the election.

I’ve never understood watching election results, but to each…

Here’s a backup, Justin case: https://www.reddit.com/r/mlbstreams

Zelepukin: So if we had that 14.5 back in July, who would we have overpaid to hopefully acquire on D? Mike Green? There was not much for D this year other than Sekera. Beauchemin is 35, Oduya would have been a 3-4D but didn’t sign till the 15th, so we could have grabbed him if he actually wanted to play here.

That’s not the point here. It’s not necessarily for spending on UFAs from this summer.
It’s being in a position of leverage vs. The rest of the league and taking advantage of cap motivated trades from the likes f Chicago and Boston.

It was a missed opportunity.

Just a couple of examples would be Ehrhoff for Ference, Petry for Nikitin, Stempniak for Purcell.

All represent upgrades and the total cost is much lower.

Thank goodness it is just a big anchor this year. But they can’t do this anymore going forward. Especially as Nurse, Drai, McDavid and yakupov will need to be signed in the next 2-3 years

khildahl

JDï™: I’ve never understood watching election results, but to each…

I don’t get it either. Luckily one of her friends is on my side here and we’re winning (for now).

AsiaOil

Oh man I don’t even want to go there – an alternative universe where the old mgmt group is still in place and we drafted Lawson Crouse is too awful to consider. No Sekera – Nikitin, Ference and Shultz playing big minutes again – god knows what kind of crazy UFA signings or trades would have taken place. Shiver me timbers indeed…..

Lowetide: For me, it’s encouraging because it’s start as you mean to go. There’s NO reason to play Ference over Reinhart if you think Reinhart is part of the future and can play at the NHL level. A year ago, I think this organization would be playing ference even now. Jmo.

Unwashed Oilfan

Hello, commenters, what the fuck? Where ya all at? Are you seriously digging in the back yards and tearing up the kitchen floor boards to hide all your livings?

murphy

Fayne, gazdic and a 5th rounder for hartnell, columbus is desperate for a solid D man. Then we need to shop eberle for a better RH star d-man.

rickithebear

Fayne: 13:40 EVTOI comp 1st.

Is anyone taking his 1st comp play? nope.

Do you trade him with none able to cover? Are you on Crack!

rickithebear

AsiaOil: an alternative universe where the old mgmt group is still in place and we drafted Lawson Crouse

i thought we talked about this!
This is hyperbole!

murphy

rickithebear,

I think eberle could get us a reasonable replacement no? We know eventually (3-12 months from now) nurse will have that spot anyway.

GCW_69

murphy:
Fayne, gazdic and a 5th rounder for hartnell, columbus is desperate for a solid D man. Then we need to shop eberle for a better RH star d-man.

That would be the Eberle that is the fourth highest scoring right wing in the NHL over the last four seasons?

Hall, btw, is the 10th highest scoring left wing. Nuge is 32nd highest scoring centre. So, clearly Eberle is the one to trade…

Hartnell is 33. Pretty sure that’s about the time players with his playing style start to fade. Not sure he is a fit.

murphy

Lowetide,

I do too but at some point something we all like will be out the door for something we really need.

murphy

GCW_69,

I love eberle… But where does he fit? It seems the new group wants size in the top 6 and specifically with hall and nuge.:.. So instead of having hendricks or klink in that spot why not pick up a guy who can score 60 points while playing the same game. Hes from the area. I cant see us getting a young version of the same player, they rarely get traded. The time is now with macdavid and his cheap contract.

Genjutsu

Stop trading Ebs. RHS first shot scorer.

Man.

murphy

A few weeks ago i wouldnt want to trade ebs either but what we have learned so far this season, with macdavid, hall and nuge, we can have two lines that can produce offense but struggle against bigger D units, we need better puck movement/break-outs from our D, new management/coaching want more size and grinding in the top 6. I don’t see another way to achieve this without giving up alot (hall or nuge) more or overpaying buff or lucic. Even then buff is getting older to.

murphy

Genjutsu,

I am open to ideas that keep him here and also get a top pairing D and power forward here but i can’t see another dougie hamilton give away anytime soon

stush18

I would be open to moving one of hall or ebs, at season end, or start of next season.

Assuming yakupov continues to click with mcdavid, then one of nuges wingers would be the candidate to be moved.

Unless you believe we don’t need a right handed pouliot on the top unit. I think we do.

Hall-nuge-xxx or pou-nuge-ebs
Poo-mcdavid-yak or xxx-mcdavid-yak

One of those two makes the most sense if you are looking for a top pairing dman. Just depends on what you’re willing to give.

Edit* if we assume mcdavids line becomes line number one in two years, than hall is most movable, as he is not a second line winger. Drai could slide into his spot, or someone else. We also have an infinite amount of left handed forwards, so maybe we could….. Balance…. The roster.

Lol I tried

Genjutsu

murphy,

murphy,

How about sign D in off season. Call up Leon when he’s ready.

RexLibris

Lowetide: I like Fayne. There. I said it.

That’s because he looks like the kind of guy who could help you hang a door.

But as a defenseman?

j/k

He’d be good on the right roster. But this has gotten to the point where it isn’t it.

Now, a Fayne/Ehrhoff partnership could be really good. We don’t have an Ehrhoff though and Fayne is the lesser proactively effective of those two roles, so that is where we find ourselves now.

marty62

Lowetide: I don’t think the new management likes him. They don’t play him a lot, Gryba is passing him. He’s the old shag carpet at the condo you buy to reno.

Fayne was also brought in by the old management who also brought in all that dead space you mention above. I like Fayne, but he has that old dishrag smell on him from the previous management and is probably on the out……

marty62

Also, I wish everyone would stop trading Eberle and Hall. Without them Edmonton has no chance of having the Unicorn 3 scoring lines. The help on defense is coming, Nurse is not far away, and more importantly McClellan and Chia have identified some of the problems and removed them from the equation. Let Chia work. He is not going to sit around and fantasize about trading for a top pairing Dman. Good teams dont trade away players like that…….

RexLibris

Lowetide: I don’t think the new management likes him. They don’t play him a lot, Gryba is passing him. He’s the old shag carpet at the condo you buy to reno.

My buddies rented a place many, many years ago that came with orange shag carpet. Was always stepping on capacitors and other assorted motherboard pieces there. Place was a dump. I’ll always remember the carpets…and how it got to 38 degrees in the summer. Good times.

No, the new management is not fond of Mr. Fayne and that is fine. He is a RHD, affordable, big and has Jersey pedigree. Maybe the Leafs take a look at him to go with Gardiner.

On another note…

Mr. Lowetide, I have found two images which I feel deserve at least modest consideration for use in upcoming GDTs.

Girding one’s loins: http://imgur.com/gallery/FyAJY

And the beautiful Sophia Loren circa 1960…in a corset: http://imgur.com/gallery/v6zCII6

slopitch

Ya I see no reason to trade anyone of the chosen ones with this much cap space off the books at the end of the year. Add MOAR pieces!

Unwashed Oilfan

Everyone talking about trading Ebs because a generational player is making a winger look good (Semenko, Lumley, etc), here’s a thought for you. I am a Yak fan, BUT…. Imagine what a one shot score with tremendous hockey IQ could do with a generational player (Kurri). Sleep on that one tonight.

Lloyd B.

Lowetide: I don’t think the new management likes him. They don’t play him a lot, Gryba is passing him. He’s the old shag carpet at the condo you buy to reno.

But under the shag is that beautiful hardwood!!

I renovated an old house a few years ago that had really worn hardwood that needed to be replaced. I was positive there there would be orange shag under it when I was ripping the old hardwood up.

Ya it’s an oldie but still a goodie. now..get off my lawn.

JD_Wry

RexLibris: Girding one’s loins: http://imgur.com/gallery/FyAJY

Everything I learned about the j-turn, I learned from Jimmy Joe Meeker or Jim Taggart.