SLEPYSHEV TO BAKERSFIELD, MILLER TO THE SHOW

by Lowetide

One of the ongoing issues facing the Edmonton Oilers is the center position. As you’ll recall, the 2014-15 season saw the train leave the station with two centers and mud, and with the Connor McDavid injury the issue of center depth returns. Todd McLellan can run Nuge, Leon, Mark Letestu and Anton Lander, or he can keep Leon on the top line and run Matt Hendricks in the middle. Are there other options? The Oilers may see Andrew Miller as a possible option, he was recalled this afternoon.

BAKERSFIELD

Andrew Miller played center in college, and in training camp this fall—most of his pro career has been at RW for Edmonton since he signed. Miller was recalled earlier this year (for one game) and is having a good start to his AHL season (8GP, 2-4-6) while playing center in Bakersfield.

The other men who played up the middle this weekend in Bakersfield (Bogdan Yakimov and Jujhar Khaira) are interesting prospects but haven’t shown the kind of offensive potential Edmonton would be looking to place on a skill line. Is this a possible lineup for Friday night?

  • Hall—Nuge—Draisaitl
  • Pouliot—Miller—Yakupov
  • Pakarinen—Lander—Eberle
  • Hendricks—Letestu—Purcell

Eberle is just coming back into the lineup, so bringing him along in a lesser role may make sense. Todd McLellan could also use him liberally on the power play. Or is this a better plan?

 

  • Hall—Nuge—Eberle
  • Pouliot—Draisaitl—Yakupov
  • Hendricks—Letestu—Purcell
  • Pakarinen—Lander—Miller

Thoughts? Miller could also play on the top line Friday night if Eberle isn’t ready to go. Miller did play 87 minutes at 5×5 with Taylor Hall last season, recording three points. Todd McLellan and Peter Chiarelli may have factored that number into today’s decision.

SLEPSYHEV

Anton Slepyshev has been impressive (10GP, 0-1-1) in many areas this season, but the pucks aren’t going in and he was losing playing time to Iiro Pakarinen and others. I don’t think he’s going to be in the AHL long—Peter Chiarelli is likely to unload Teddy Purcell at some point this winter—but getting lots of playing time in the AHL is the right play. Peter Chiarelli telegraphed the demotion in a recent conversation with Terry Jones of the Edmonton Sun.

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T0ML

Question, wasnt there a rumor or some such about a Europe out-clause instead of the AHL for Sleppy?

leadfarmer

Thank goodness. This is not how you develop players. Let him develop in the Ahl this year.

Centre of attention

T0ML,

I think that was nullified if he made the team out of camp. So, he “made the team” for 10 games. Now its “time for some seasoning young man”. English lessons wouldn’t hurt either.

He better knock Ford off that top line or I’m going to have to strangle something…

sliderule

Slepy played ok but he needs to gain confidence in AHL .

The oilers problem is still goaltending.

Goaltending is about position and movement.When I hear that a goalie made some great saves I laugh.Goalies can’t move on most of the shots the puck just hits them.

With pucks coming at them at 100 ft per second and faster and top reaction times of 1/3 of a second they just don’t move .There is no time.

The result is that you have to ignore the so called great saves and also the bad goals and rely on save percentage.

The oiler save percentage was bad last year and continues to be bad this year.

When the oilers goalies turn the save percentage above .915 I will say the tending is good.

Chachi

I hope those who called him “slepslappy” are happy now with the doom they have wrought upon the poor young man! Doom!

Johnny skid

sliderule:
Slepy played ok but he needs to gain confidence in AHL .

The oilers problem is still goaltending.

Goaltending is about position and movement.When I hear that a goalie made some great saves I laugh.Goalies can’t move onmost of the shots the puck just hits them.

With pucks coming at them at 100 ft per second and faster and top reaction times of 1/3 of a second they just don’t move .There is no time.

The result is that you have to ignore the so called great saves andalso the bad goals and rely on save percentage.

The oiler save percentage was bad last year and continues to be bad this year.

When the oilers goalies turn the save percentage above .915 I will say the tending is good.

save percentage will improve when the defence improves. goaltenders are just fine.

kinger_OIL

Deja Vu, from awhile ago:

– Miller = Arco awhile ago

– Drai = Lander awhile ago

– Lander = Lander from awhile ago

– Same first line from awhile ago

– 3/th4 line = whatever from awhile ago

– G tandemn = no confidence after a dozen games from awhile ago

– D = combo of hope, talent, guys playing above their pay-grade from awhile ago

– No reason to think this is more than a 70 point team: I’m feeling the same from awhile ago

lynn

Chachi:
I hope those who called him “slepslappy” are happy now with the doom they have wrought upon the poor young man!Doom!

Slepslappy? Awful nickname. Anton Slepyshev is fine.

hoser313

kinger_OIL,

Also McDavid injury = RNH injury.

hoser313

leadfarmer,

Hopefully the kid can see that too.

New Improved Darkness

kinger_OIL: – Drai = Lander awhile ago

The fifties called. They want to know how you passed Drai through the eye of the needle without shucking his sideburns.

No, not the 1950s. The fifties, i.e. 50–60 A.D.

fuzzy muppet

Chachi:
I hope those who called him “slepslappy” are happy now with the doom they have wrought upon the poor young man!Doom!

Gotta admit this made me chuckle

Wonder Llama

kinger_OIL,

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Wanna tell us how McLellan = Eakins from awhile ago?

Pouzar

Lowetide:
Edmonton Oilers rookie sensation Connor McDavid apparently avoided damage to the tissue surrounding his broken left clavicle suffered Tuesday in a collision involving two Philadelphia Flyers defensemen, according to Darren Dreger.

Dreger said he was told that McDavid’s labrum was fully intact as surgeons repaired a “clean” break of the collarbone, and hypothesized that the best-case scenario for his return is seven-to-eight weeks.

http://www.thescore.com/news/872996

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

kinger_OIL

Bootstrap Effexor: The fifties called.They want to know how you passed Drai through the eye of the needle without shucking his sideburns.

No, not the 1950s.The fifties, i.e. 50–60 A.D.

Huh?

– I hope Drai is better, but last year he was over his head, like Lander was a few years ago

– They are now going to ask too much from Drai, and I remember that from so many times from awhile ago.

– Plus ca change…

Chachi

Lowetide,

I thought it was a wonderful nickname. Sounds like a long lost hockey playing member of the Three Stooges.

Dicky94

Lowetide,

Good news! That puts him somewhere around Christmas time possibly early January. So yes he will still win the Calder.

Zelepukin

I really hope they don’t drop Drai down to 2C. I know it’s inevitable but lets see if we can find any 2nd line combo that can still be an offensive threat.

Perhaps someone can shed some light on it but by eye it seemed like the last couple games McD was getting a good amount of time matched against 1-2D. Now Hallsy is going to be getting a guaranteed matchup against 1-2D and production might slow, thus moving Ebs back up.

kinger_OIL

Wonder Llama,

Yeah – they will be better: a 70 point team, assuming McD misses 30 games. Looking at the roster that LT has cobbled together, and it’s a realistic one, we are exposed: too much from awhile ago.

– D with half under the age of 23 don’t do well, unless there are supported by strong anchor vets

– At least Goalers have gone from brutal to merely quite mediocre

– Losing McD, Yak is going to get lost: he’s shown he needs to play with good players

– Yes our coach is an upgrade, but unless coaches are really bad (like Dallas), coaches aren`t all that: how`s Babcock coaching helping the Leafs

– Sidenote: Its`strange to be at the age where a high school friend of mine is now a cabinet minster!

SoCaloil

Adding size to the top line and pushing Ebs down is the right call

Another option

Pou-Nuge-Ebs
Hall-Drai-yak
Hendricks-lettestu-Purcell
Ahl^2+Lander. – 3 min max

This could work. Line 1 had some Chem last year
Hall and drai had Chem. yak plus drai had chem. maybe
3rd line looked good yesterday
And you send the 4 th for some energy and a little bump and grind

Lowetide:
Edmonton Oilers rookie sensation Connor McDavid apparently avoided damage to the tissue surrounding his broken left clavicle suffered Tuesday in a collision involving two Philadelphia Flyers defensemen, according to Darren Dreger.

Dreger said he was told that McDavid’s labrum was fully intact as surgeons repaired a “clean” break of the collarbone, and hypothesized that the best-case scenario for his return is seven-to-eight weeks.

http://www.thescore.com/news/872996

Generational healer

kinger_OIL,

I’d take the over on 70 if you’re selling. I will even give you 74. I am clearly going to lose my Schultz bet to Pouzar since his injury so I need to make up for it.

Clay

Lowetide:
Edmonton Oilers rookie sensation Connor McDavid apparently avoided damage to the tissue surrounding his broken left clavicle suffered Tuesday in a collision involving two Philadelphia Flyers defensemen, according to Darren Dreger.

Dreger said he was told that McDavid’s labrum was fully intact as surgeons repaired a “clean” break of the collarbone, and hypothesized that the best-case scenario for his return is seven-to-eight weeks.

http://www.thescore.com/news/872996

He even breaks his collarbone exceptionally well.

JD_Wry

Lowetide: “clean” break of the collarbone

That’s the best worst news I’ve seen in some time.

A friend of mine who was scouted by the Bruins and was on their list when he played NCAA hockey in the 80s, had everything come to an end with a very badly broken collar bone (~ 1982). It broke in three places, IIRC, and gives him problems to this day.

Clay

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Generational healer

Dammit. You said it better.

Wonder Llama

kinger_OIL,

Not sure what to say about Babcock and the Leafs but I do believe McLellan is bringing some badly needed structure, confidence, and accountability to the Oilers. I think we’re just beginning to see the effects of this.

Yakupov is unlikely to be as effective without McDavid (who would be?) but I have guarded optimism he’s turned some kind of corner.

The D is hard to suss out. If Nurse really is ready (I believe so) and Schultz continues his modest improvement and Reinhart shows us something and Ference stays out and… and… so many variables.

And remember there’s another difference from awhile ago: management. While I’m not completely enamored of every move Chia has made thus far, I have a lot more faith that if a trade is made this season it will actually improve the team.

The abyss beckons. I understand – I feel it, too. But for now I shall resist.

oilswell

Chachi:
I hope those who called him “slepslappy” are happy now with the doom they have wrought upon the poor young man!Doom!

This.

Why don’t people realize that the nicknames bestowed upon athletes can have myriad real world consequences?

Jason Smith retired just in time, that was close.

JD_Wry

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Generational healer

This will give him 8 weeks to work on his lower body strength!

Pouzar

F^ck you Jets.

I’ve mentioned this several times, but I see this team going as follows:
First 25 games: 9w 16L
Next 25 games: 12w 13L
Final 32 games: 19w 13L
Of those losses give me a Bettman point on 5.
40-37-5

That was with McDavid.
McDavid will still be around for the last 32 game stretch and should have a few games under his belt by then.

Do you think that’s unrealistic?
At 5-8, Oilers need to go 4-8 over the next 12 or 16-21 over the next 37 games to keep up this pace.

Even without McDavid I think it’s not unreasonable to expect the team to be 21w29L at the 50 game mark. That’s only .420 hockey.

Pouzar

Lowetide: That was a tough loss for TOR.

Yup. Looked vaguely familiar.

Leafs 7th in CF% going into tonight.

G Money

oilswell: This.
Why don’t people realize that the nicknames bestowed upon athletes can have myriad real world consequences?
Jason Smith retired just in time, that was close.

Thank Gord he wasn’t traded to Florida. Could have, oops sorry, “could of” been messy.

So I guess we can say that when hockey players give unimaginative and predictable nicknames like “Hallsy”, they’re simply following a safety protocol.

G Money

I for one still like “Slappy” as a preferred nickname for Slepyshev, but given what we know of recent domestic issues for a certain Russian player, I fear that we may have sealed his fate.

G Money: the

Deffo. We’ve learned from the past where it was dangerous just to be around Eagles and Tigers and Cyclones and Rockets and Bombers and Gators and Grim Reapers (RIP) just to name a few.

Lewis Grant

– Losing McD, Yak is going to get lost: he’s shown he needs to play with good players

I think this is likely the biggest implication of the McDavid injury. By the time the trade deadline hits, Yakupov has ~30 points instead of ~60 points. That’s a huge difference on the trade market. At 60 points, Yak+ gets us a very good defenseman. At 30 points, Yak+ gets us someone else’s castoff.

And our most desperate need is for a very good defenseman.

As Jeff Z. Klein and Karl-Eric Reif – the original statheads in the 1980s (look it up!!) – showed us, teams don’t get better when they start scoring more goals. They get better when they start preventing goals.

JD_Wry

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: That’s only .420 hockey.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude! Roight awun mahun!

Centre of attention

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:

That’s only .420 hockey.

Woah, man.

Eberle needs to cut down on the .420 hockey, he looks way to baked all the time as it is.

Your a bad influence on this team, NY! LOL

Centre of attention

JDï™: Duuuuuuuuuuuuude! Roight awun mahun!

*fist bump*

delooper

I doubt Yakupov gets traded, regardless of his play with/without McDavid. Other GMs won’t care about short-term performance. If they’re trading a solid defender they’re not going to bite on anything that looks remotely like a pump-and-dump, even if it is with a 1st overall.

Centre of attention

delooper,

Yak has great pedigree, its more like a pump and prove he’s got the stuff.

Other teams have skilled players Yak can excel with.

G Money

Lewis Grant,

1 – Yak played (and scored) pretty well with Derek Roy as his C. I used Cult of Hockey numbers to assess my view of “seen him good”, and CoH concurs – Yak was the second best player on the ice for the Oilers the last 20 games of the season, neck and neck with RNH.

2 – IMO, I think Yak’s resurgence has as much or more to do with coaching than with his C. Yak was scared to play anything but a vanilla third-line-plugger’s game under Eakins, and it showed. Loss of confidence is a horrible thing to have happen to someone whose offensive and creative instincts work at an elite level (which Yak’s Jr results clearly show to be the case).

You have to let those players play and discover what works and what doesn’t at the NHL level. To bench them when they make a mistake (given that those mistakes are fundamental and critically important to the development process) is the worst possible thing you can do. IMO we lost two years of development in Yak’s game, and this is a crime that the Oilers and Eakins and MacT can never repay the young man, or the game of hockey.

3 – Yak actually played fairly sturdy hockey with Drai as his C last year. They had pretty good possession numbers but poor puck luck (I say by both eye and by stat).

This has certain implications from my perspective:

If TMc wants to keep Hall/RNH/Drai together, then likely we see Poo/Lander/Yak or maybe Poo/Miller/Yak as LT thinks, with Ebs getting eased back into the game on the third line.

But if that second line struggles to score, I think the logical think is to move Ebs back with RNH/Hall, a combo we know also can work really well, and try Dry Yak Poo again.

Having both Drai and Yak playing confident games can make all the difference in the world.

Chachi

I think the plan will be to bump Lander up to the second line, bump letestu up to the third and have Miller draw in on rhe 4th. Huge opportunity for Lander over the next couple of games and if he can work with Yak Pou things will be alright. Hopefully he makes it work.

flyfish1168

G Money:
Lewis Grant,

1 – Yak played (and scored) pretty well with Derek Roy as his C.I used Cult of Hockey numbers to assess my view of “seen him good”, and CoH concurs – Yak was the second best player on the ice for the Oilers the last 20 games of the season, neck and neck with RNH.

2 – IMO, I think Yak’s resurgence has as much or more to do with coaching than with his C.Yak was scared to play anything but a vanilla third-line-plugger’s game under Eakins, and it showed.Loss of confidence is a horrible thing to have happen to someone whose offensive and creative instincts work at an elite level (which Yak’s Jr results clearly show to be the case).

You have to let those players play and discover what works and what doesn’t at the NHL level.To bench them when they make a mistake (given that those mistakes are fundamental and critically important to the development process) is the worst possible thing you can do.IMO we lost two years of development in Yak’s game, and this is a crime that the Oilers and Eakins and MacT can never repay the young man, or the game of hockey.

3 – Yak actually played fairly sturdy hockey with Drai as his C last year.They had pretty good possession numbers but poor puck luck (I say by both eye and by stat).

This has certain implications from my perspective:

If TMc wants to keep Hall/RNH/Drai together, then likely we see Poo/Lander/Yak or maybe Poo/Miller/Yak as LT thinks, with Ebs getting eased back into the game on the third line.

But if that second line struggles to score, I think the logical think is to move Ebs back with RNH/Hall, a combo we know also can work really well, and try Dry Yak Poo again.

Having both Drai and Yak playing confident games can make all the difference in the world.

G Money eloquently written and put. I like how TMac has been patient with Yak. But I have to admit I want to see more from him. He still seems to have positional issues on occasions at both ends of the ice. More video and he needs to keep his skates moving. JMHO

flyfish1168

wow Blues comes back from a 5-2 deficient to beat the hawks in the United center

Johnny skid

G Money:
Lewis Grant,

1 – Yak played (and scored) pretty well with Derek Roy as his C.I used Cult of Hockey numbers to assess my view of “seen him good”, and CoH concurs – Yak was the second best player on the ice for the Oilers the last 20 games of the season, neck and neck with RNH.

2 – IMO, I think Yak’s resurgence has as much or more to do with coaching than with his C.Yak was scared to play anything but a vanilla third-line-plugger’s game under Eakins, and it showed.Loss of confidence is a horrible thing to have happen to someone whose offensive and creative instincts work at an elite level (which Yak’s Jr results clearly show to be the case).

You have to let those players play and discover what works and what doesn’t at the NHL level.To bench them when they make a mistake (given that those mistakes are fundamental and critically important to the development process) is the worst possible thing you can do.IMO we lost two years of development in Yak’s game, and this is a crime that the Oilers and Eakins and MacT can never repay the young man, or the game of hockey.

3 – Yak actually played fairly sturdy hockey with Drai as his C last year.They had pretty good possession numbers but poor puck luck (I say by both eye and by stat).

This has certain implications from my perspective:

If TMc wants to keep Hall/RNH/Drai together, then likely we see Poo/Lander/Yak or maybe Poo/Miller/Yak as LT thinks, with Ebs getting eased back into the game on the third line.

But if that second line struggles to score, I think the logical think is to move Ebs back with RNH/Hall, a combo we know also can work really well, and try Dry Yak Poo again.

Having both Drai and Yak playing confident games can make all the difference in the world.

i could not agree more. posts like this is what makes this site the best.

frjohnk

Lowetide:
Good grief, are we trading Yak NOW?

Just a few days ago it was RNH who we were trading,
a week earlier it was Hall,
and before that Eberle.

Today its Yak’s turn
tomorrow Draisaitl