G41 2015-16: HURRICANES AT OILERS

by Lowetide

If you were to write a musical score for these first 40 games, it would have to include the highest highs, and the lowest lows—and every note in between. From dog whistles to the fog of wart, it has been remarkable and fatally flawed and the only thing that can save it is a watershed second half and a ringing playoff epilogue. Too much? Of course. Hope dies last.

TRAGED-ED-ED-ED-Y, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2014: 4-5-1
  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0
  • Oilers in November 2014: 2-9-3
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2
  • Oilers in December 2014: 2-8-4
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1
  • Oilers in January 2015: 5-7-1
  • Oilers in January 2016: 1-0-0
  • Oilers after 40 in 2014-15: 9-22-9, 27 points (-52 GD)
  • Oilers after 40 in 2015-16: 16-21-3, 35 points (-22 GD)

If the Oilers win, they would reach the halfway point of the season with 37 points—well short of hoped, but 10 points clear of 2014-15 (Edmonton would fall 4-2 to Detroit in G41). I remember that game, Viktor Fasth stopped a lot of shots but Benoit Pouliot took a spearing penalty late and that was all she wrote. If this thing never turns north, what will we do to mark the occasion? Exactly.

DEFENSE, 2015-16

oilers blue nov 30

  • Brandon Davidson sees his On-Ice Scoring Chance against 60 spike with the additional responsibility of playing with Andrej Sekera. That said, I think he is one of the two best options (the other is Mark Fayne) for the job. If he gets near 30.00/60, the Oilers will have to move on to someone else, but tag he is it. Good player, legit value contract.

  • Oscar Klefbom is the only other defenseman under 25.00/60 in SCA and he is injured. I think Edmonton’s second half relies heavily on his return happening during the early weeks of January. The Oilers don’t give out information freely on injuries but one gets the feeling it will be awhile. Should we start worrying about his injuries? It used to be concussions, but now I try to be amused.
  • Brad Hunt has done well, but I think it won’t last. Could they be showcasing him? I would think Justin Schultz would be the guy for it, but as Sunil Agnihotri pointed out this weekend deployment doesn’t imply showcase.
  • Darnell Nurse has been the subject (here and elsewhere) of conversation lately, he was playing too high in the lineup and Todd McLellan waited a loooong time before addressing it. Nurse is improving in the Rel since, but our man Andrej Sekera is melting with Mark Fayne and or Brandon Davidson. Klefbom needs to come back, because Edmonton’s best defenseman may not be able to hold back the water.
  • The first pairing needs a better second pairing needs a better third pairing. Easy!
  • Edmonton won without Mark Fayne. Who needs him? The Oilers. Despite his SCA number above, his possession numbers remains solid even though he has in fact been facing the tough minutes. I understand he is slow, but good counts too, right? Play the man.
  • After Davidson and Klefbom, all of the defenders have basically the same SCA number. What do we have to say about that? With Fayne playing the tougher minutes, and within spitting distance of the others, I think it makes sense for him to play tonight. I doubt Todd McLellan makes a change after a win.

OILERS CENTERS 2015-16

oilers centers over season

You could live happily with the three sets of numbers that lead off for Edmonton at center. All three men should be over 2.00/60 at 5×5 and could be over 4.50/60 at 5×4 by the end of the season. At some point, the Oilers will move someone off to the wing (Poo has been taking some of the Nuge’s faceoffs lately, maybe our man is having trouble adjusting to the new face-off rules) but for now it is fun to imagine this trio for the next decade.

I wonder if a guy like Kassian makes it more likely they run these guys at center. Hall, Eberle, Pouliot, Purcell and Yakupov are a costly bunch ($23M!), but if you could save a little on Purcell’s contract and bring in (an effective) Kassian? Is $23M too much for your top six wingers?

ARE WE THERE YET?

Okay, so he practiced the other day? What didn’t he do? Did he take part in all the drills, full contact? If he did, we are talking days not weeks, no? What am I missing, hockey people? If he takes warmups tonight, will the Oilers acknowledge it? Will Edmonton fans get the vapors? Will this blog stop posting at 8:30 and 5? Stay tuned!

WINGERS, 2015-16

oil forwards over season

As is the case with McDavid, Leon, Nuge, if you look at the Hall and Purcell numbers, notice the improvement in Pouliot and Eberle (especially 5×5/60) and remember Yakupov is coming back? That is eight men, with a power forward (of some type) on the way. The forwards could be set by the time the swallows come back to Capistrano.

THREE SCORING LINES

  • Peter Chiarelli: “From my experience, the top two lines of each team often neutralize each other and the third line is your tipping point. We have a lot of options. We have three very good centres.” Source (Jones wrote a good article, worth the read)

Would this work?

  • Hall—Draisaitl—Purcell
  • Pouliot—McDavid—Yakupov
  • Kassian—RNH—Eberle

Or do you want to see Eberle with McDavid for a time?

 

  • Hall—Draisaitl—Purcell
  • Pouliot—McDavid—Eberle
  • Yakupov—RNH—Kassian

I watched most of the two games this weekend, and Kassian looked good on the potato feed from Mars. He is certainly fast enough, strong enough, and skilled enough to play a big role in the AHL, and his NHL numbers (per 82gp he is 14-13-27) suggest he has way more skill than previous tries by Edmonton to grab this player. He is not Bill Guerin, and there is still some forgiveness to be earned (not just the stick to Gagner, but the ghastly behavior in the following meetings).

Based on what I saw this weekend, and what we know of this player, as a hockey risk this was a solid bet that could pay off in grand fashion. Another power forward who might be in play is young Kerby Rychel, buried in the AHL but scoring at a nice clip. Aaron Portzline reports on what has been an issue for some time, and young Rychel would certainly be on the radar for Peter Chiarelli’s rugged kind of fellow procurement list.

https://twitter.com/SInow/status/683966625037586432

These things seem to be happening with more frequency, and in Tampa Bay there seems to be a story every few months involving unhappy players. Unlike Martin St. Louis and (soon) Steven Stamkos, young Drouin has limited options. His agent has now gone public on the player’s behalf, and things could get ugly. Edmonton had a similar (although not identical) situation with Nail Yakupov, the difference being the young Oiler always professed his wish to stay. I love Drouin’s skill set and believe he could thrive on the wing in Edmonton. Among the current portsiders, I would rank his potential with any not named Taylor Hall. I think it more likely Peter Chiarelli trades for a Rychel than a Drouin, but love the idea of having his talent on the Oilers. Could you have another small winger on this team? Well, I think the talent dictates you look at it for sure, and Drouin could be productive without being expensive for a few more seasons. Something to consider. As for attitude? Don’t know, but lordy there is a lot of smoke surrounding the Lightning.

hepburn

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

This morning at 10, TSN1260. We have only one hour between the two WJ games, so tune in for two hours worth of discussion in one (I will talk fast, promise). Scheduled to appear:

  • Scott Burnside, ESPN. Jagr, Caps and Kings.
  • Scott Zerr, Oilers Nation. We will discuss Zack Kassian and his mindset entering the last chance portion of his hockey career in North America.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

 

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Klima's_Bucket

Lightning scouts have been heavily scouting the Hawks for the past month.
Drouin to dare I say Hawks???

dannyboy

Great read Lt, any update on yakupov, i dont recall reading anything recently about his expected return.

Centre of attention

I hope the Oilers beat the stuffing out of the Canes tonight.

Their last meeting was completely embarrassing. Retribution tonight.

hunter1909

dannyboy: any update on yakupov, i dont recall reading anything recently about his expected return.

Apparently he was set to return early, before an NHL ref visited him with a lead pipe hidden inside some flowers.

The whole healing process has been set back.

Woogie63

I am more than a little surprized how effective the Oiler management is on keeping injuries and player timelines under the complete cone of silence.

hunter1909

Woogie63:
I am more than a little surprized how effective the Oiler management is on keeping injuries and player timelines under the complete cone of silence.

No cone of silence.

Oilers make the press run injury questions through Kevin Lowe’s office.

PhrankLee

Official halfway mark!

They are on pace with my model. I am gonna clean up again in the Hunter 1909 Sweepstakes!

Fuck the Canes.

hunter1909

PhrankLee: I am gonna clean up again in the Hunter 1909 Sweepstakes!

You’re one of the top rated contestants, ever.

Pouzar

“Or do you want to see Eberle with McDavid for a time?”

Yes.

And LB too. Ok that’s the last LB plug. For this AM.

frjohnk

Don’t see chia inquiring about Droiun but possibly Rychel.

Rychel would cost less and plays a heavier game.

I don’t think we have much in prospects of note that Columbus would be interested in.

Centre of attention:
I hope the Oilers beat the stuffing out of the Canes tonight.

Their last meeting was completely embarrassing. Retribution tonight.

Canes are also better than people think. Hanifin looks great in very sheltered minutes. Oiler coaches take note!

Faulk is amazing.

Canes are almost like Coyotes East. Oilers don’t match up too well with them.

I see a struggle tonight. But they finally got a tie against Arizona so maybe they can get one here. But I am doubtful.

Pouzar:
“Or do you want to see Eberle with McDavid for a time?”

Yes.

And LB too. Ok that’s the last LB plug. For this AM.

LB with McDavid would be an interesting deployment choice I had never thought of.

John Chambers

I’m not convinced that the team is all that much better than last years team at this time, other than the goaltending being marginally better, but that the OT results are vastly superior.

Since the beginning of the 6-game win streak I’d day the Oilers have at times been very lucky, and at other times deserving of their losses.

I had high expectations that McLellan’s coaching would result in a much better possession-oriented team and although the results are better, they’re short of where we might have anticipated them, especially in relation to last season’s first-half atrocity.

frjohnk

Pouzar:
“Or do you want to see Eberle with McDavid for a time?”

Yes.

And LB too. Ok that’s the last LB plug. For this AM.

I believe oilers will trade Nilsson by the deadline and bring up LB at that point.

Talbot and LB will be our goalies next fall.

frjohnk:

I don’t think we have much in prospects of note that anyone else would be interested in.

Fixed that for you.

Joking aside, the prospect cupboard is a little bare on the top shelf once Nurse and McDavid officially graduate.

Not a lot to offer up for a Drouin or Rychel if prospects are the ask.

Pouzar

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: LB with McDavid would be an interesting deployment choice I had never thought of.

He made a beauty pass up to the forward on the PP last night…perhaps we’ll start him on bottom pairing D first????

leadfarmer

LT I think Chia is looking to dump small skilled wingers and not add them. Would you do a my problem for your problem swap with Yak for Drouin. I don’t think Yak has anywhere near the value of Drouin but I don’t think they get fair value for him

Pouzar

frjohnk: I believe oilers will trade Nilsson by the deadline and bring up LB at that point.

Talbot and LB will be our goalies next fall.

I think that’s a great guess.

Woodguy

Justin Schultz for Kirby Rychel.

Gogogogogogogogogogogogo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stevezie

frjohnk,

I thought that until it was pointed out to me that goalies don’t have to clear waivers until their fourth year. I now think the Oil would prefer to go into camp with all three and see how things look.

That said, I have no doubt they’ll take calls for Nilsson, and if the right offer comes…

By the way, I posted this last night, but will repost for the benefit of those who did not see it buried late in the Brodziak thread. Will only repost this once and then go back to hockey. It seems relevant as things in financial markets are moving quickly. As in falling hard.
January 3, 2016 at 11:01 pm
I said I would keep it to hockey talk, but just a warning markets are still set for a very rough ride. That remains the case.
China is down almost 7 percent and even Japan down 3 percent. The yen is sharply stronger as well.
US futures are down 1 percent and I think it only a matter of time before 2000 on the S&P cracks again. 4 bearish engulfing candle patterns on that index in the past few months and MACD signals all very negative near-term. I’m not calling doomsday here but I don’t think 2016 will be a particularly happy year for markets, at least to start the year.
I continue to recommend a conservative investment profile for this time. Cash, fixed income weights above what most brokers will be telling you to have. And stay safer in the US dollar for now as well.
Oil futures are up. Why? Because everyone is short, not because things are better. Ironically, when the markets are dumping, one of the few places traders can shift their money to is oil, to cover some shorts.
I’d still be looking for most asset classes to come lower before buying anything other than some puts (only if you know how to trade options, otherwise don’t touch them). I think a retest of some of the August flash crash lows may be coming soon.
Any questions please DM me.
Back to hockey.

Pouzar: He made a beauty pass up to the forward on the PP last night…perhaps we’ll start him on bottom pairing D first????

He has got to be better at making a pass than Future Norris (TM). Let’s try it.

😉

frjohnk

Woodguy:
Justin Schultz for Kirby Rychel.

Gogogogogogogogogogogogo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ll second that.

Water Fire

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Fixed that for you.

Joking aside, the prospect cupboard is a little bare on the top shelf once Nurse and McDavid officially graduate.

Not a lot to offer up for a Drouin or Rychel if prospects are the ask.

If Chia saw Rychel as being a top 6 prospect it might be something like Yak for Rychel +. Chia goes after Rychel before Drouin which is probably a mistake long run. Yak for Drouin might make sense. Drouin probably has more upside, and Yzerman wouldn’t be afraid of Russians.

Cassandra

The weekend threads were cute with people talking about Reinhart as if he had trade value. Someone even said, that if Reinhart were available in last year’s draft he’d have gone around #10. That’s precious.

Whatever Reinhart turns into in the future, if he were traded today there is not a chance in hell he’d return a first round pick. First round pick who track as slowly as he has do not retain their value.

The Drouin situation is interesting and shows how feudal the draft system is. It’s extremely unfair to the players. In a just world the Lightning would just trade him. Instead they’ll try and crush him. So goes to the NHL.

Klima's_Bucket

frjohnk: I’ll second that.

I bet you’d even be happy with Warren Rychel.

Marc

LT

One further item on the Oilers’ D deployment that I thought was interesting. In David Staples’ piece about Gryba (http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/in-praise-of-eric-gryba-one-of-the-nhls-bargain-players) he has a table showing individual Oilers contributions/mistakes on ‘Grade A Scoring Chances’ broken down per 15 minutes of EV playing time. In the final column of the table he includes a ‘Grade A Scoring Chance’ +/- per 15 min for each player.

If you look at the D section of the table, the 4 D with the worst +/- rating (excluding Hunt, who’s only played 46 minutes this season) are, in order of badness: Ference, Fayne, Nikitin and Reinhart. So a guy who’s been ‘injured’ or benched pretty much all season and three guys who’ve been sent to the AHL for poor play.

The top 6 D by this measure: Davidson, Nurse, Klefbom, Gryba, Schultz and Sekera – the guys McLellan clearly prefers when everyone is healthy.

I know that Staples’ homemade stats have not historically been particularly popular on here, but this one seems to closely correlate to the coach’s thinking – much more than Corsi Rel %, and more than SCA/60 even (see Nurse).

frjohnk

Klima’s_Bucket: I bet you’d even be happy with Warren Rychel.

Don’t get too crazy.

We would have to add in this trade.

Klima's_Bucket

Lowetide,

Does Rychel bring the offensive tools necessary to play a top 6 role in Edmonton LT?

alice13

Caramel:
The draft system has nothing to do with Drouin’s pains, whatever they may be. He’s a pro athlete, and nowhere does it say he, or any other talent in any other league or entertainment industry, gets to call the shots. At least until he becomes a GM someplace. In the meantime, there’s a clear process that moves him from ELC to RFA to UFA, and it is – mostly – on him to prove his value as a hockey player over that time.

Lordy,

alice13

The alternative? Everybody is UFA when they turn 18 and have the right to vote. Who knows, with a salary cap that might even work.

OilersFuture

In the next two off-seasons they have; Stamkos, Hedman & Bishop coming up as UFA’s and Kucherov, Namestrnikov, Johnson, Palat & Vasilevskiy as RFA’s.

In 2017-18 they have 25.4 million committed to 5 players (Carle, Garrison, Stralman, Callahan & Filppula) that are going to impact their ability to sign players.

TBL is in a tough spot they are going to be looking for controllable players for Drouin. I don’t see the Oiler’s as a match. Do you think Yzerman regrets passing on Jones?

Woodguy

CAR is a lot like FLA from last year.

Very good CF% and SC% but being sunk by a low PDO.

Last year FLA couldn’t score and got good goaltending.

This year CAR can’t score or save a puck, but both are getting better and they have points in 7 of their last 10 games.

Some CAR rankings:

5v5 CF% 53.2% (4th)

5v5 HDSCF% 52% (8th)

5v5 SCF% 51.5% (9th)

SH% (all situations) 8.03% (26th)

SH% 5v5 6.56% (24th)

SV% (all situations) .8936 (29th)

SV% 5v5 .9082 (29th)

PDO 5v5 974 (29th)

Ward (.900 all situations) has actually outplayed Lack (.892 all situations). I’ve read that the goalie coach is trying to change Lack’s style and that stuff usually doesn’t end well.

Ward is his usual bad self running a .900 (all situations). I can’t believe how many posters here think he’s an answer. So many people just don’t pay attention.

Lack’s gone .972, .938 and .905 in his last 3 so maybe he’s coming around.

While its true that when CAR kicked EDM’s ass 4-1 in NOV that EDM wasn’t good, most didn’t give CAR any credit and they deserve lots.

They are well coached and play a good team game.

Skinner is finally rounding back into form after 2 years of concussion issues.

Lindholm is a disappointment after going 5th overall. He’s only 21, but players of his pedigree should be producing by now and he isn’t. Word is that he’s too shy to go the scoring areas.

2012 2nd rounder Phil Di Giueseppe has hit the cover off the ball since his recall 2.43 5v5 pts/60 in his first 13 games. He got hurt last game and don’t know if he’ll go tonight.

Bottom line is that I don’t expect the Oilers to win.

Bookies have CAR a slight fav at -105 to win and I think there’s value there.

Then again with RNH’s line waking up, who knows?

Also,

Nice to see Large get on board with the Unicorn idea.

If they don’t even try it I’ll be really disappointed.

Go Oilers!!

*clapclapclap*

Woodguy,

Thank you for using numbers to better illustrate the same point I was making that Carolina is not a bad team. Oilers are in tough tonight and although they have a decent chance to win, by no means should anyone be surprised if they do not.

Pouzar

Marc:
LT

One further item on the Oilers’ D deployment that I thought was interesting. In David Staples’ piece about Gryba (http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/in-praise-of-eric-gryba-one-of-the-nhls-bargain-players) he has a table showing individual Oilers contributions/mistakes on ‘Grade A Scoring Chances’ broken down per 15 minutes of EV playing time. In the final column of the table he includes a ‘Grade A Scoring Chance’ +/- per 15 min for each player.

If you look at the D section of the table, the 4 D with the worst +/- rating (excluding Hunt, who’s only played 46 minutes this season) are, in order of badness: Ference, Fayne, Nikitin and Reinhart. So a guy who’s been ‘injured’ or benched pretty much all season and three guys who’ve been sent to the AHL for poor play.

The top 6 D by this measure: Davidson, Nurse, Klefbom, Gryba, Schultz and Sekera – the guys McLellan clearly prefers when everyone is healthy.

I know that Staples’ homemade stats have not historically been particularly popular on here, but this one seems to closely correlate to the coach’s thinking – much more than Corsi Rel %, and more than SCA/60 even (see Nurse).

Interesting. Backs up my eyes insofar I don’t see Nurse struggling as bad as some here.

Woodguy,

Wait, Lindholm is a disappointment? What!? No he isn’t. He has had a rough start to the season but is coming on of late. He also was very good to finish last season.

They have a very good player there. Plus Hanifin and Faulk (and Fleury on the way).

Also Jeff Skinner is back from the dead and on fire of late. So look out.

Cassandra

alice13:
Caramel:
The draft system has nothing to do with Drouin’s pains, whatever they may be. He’s a pro athlete, and nowhere does it say he, or any other talent in any other league or entertainment industry, gets to call the shots. At least until he becomes a GM someplace. In the meantime, there’s a clear process that moves him from ELC to RFA to UFA, and it is – mostly – on him to prove his value as a hockey player over that time.

Lordy,

There is no other industry in the world that allows corporations to draft employees. Young, prospective, hockey players are treated as entry level workers of a guild system.

Guild systems are medieval institutions. Now they can work so long as there is reciprocity. In this case, the team has a responsibility to the player to develop their skills and to allow them access to the NHL market where they will eventually get paid. However, if the team neglects this responsibility or unfairly restricts the player from the NHL, the player has no recourse. That’s unfair.

Indeed, everyone acknowledges this to be the case. It’s why the waiver rule exists. The problem is that for a player with first round talent the waiver rule gives the teams enough power to effectively destroy their earning power (comparative to the players peers) should they chose to exercise it. That’s unfair.

In this case Cooper clearly does not like Drouin. This is plain as day from the outside. It was a major story in the playoffs. Drouin has no road to the NHL so long as Cooper is the coach but there is no mechanism within the system for him to be free of the Lightning. He’s bound by a contract, a contract he was forced to sign. That’s unfair.

Ca$h-McMoney!

Woodguy,

Someone yesterday suggested paying Cam Ward around $5million on a medium term deal.

It won’t go away. The logic behind Cam Ward (experienced, has gotten the job done in the past, is still alive) is the same logic I would use to advocate signing CuJo for another run.

Cassandra

cc:
In the next two off-seasons they have; Stamkos, Hedman & Bishop coming up as UFA’s and Kucherov, Namestrnikov, Johnson, Palat & Vasilevskiy as RFA’s.

In 2017-18 they have 25.4 million committed to 5 players (Carle, Garrison, Stralman, Callahan & Filppula) that are going to impact their ability to sign players.

TBL is in a tough spot they are going to be looking for controllable players for Drouin.I don’t see the Oiler’s as a match.Do you think Yzerman regrets passing on Jones?

Let’s trade Reinhart for him. That would be unbelievable.

John Chambers

Caramel Obvious:
The weekend threads were cute with people talking about Reinhart as if he had trade value.Someone even said, that if Reinhart were available in last year’s draft he’d have gone around #10.That’s precious.

Whatever Reinhart turns into in the future, if he were traded today there is not a chance in hell he’d return a first round pick. First round pick who track as slowly as he has do not retain their value.

The Drouin situation is interesting and shows how feudal the draft system is.It’s extremely unfair to the players.In a just world the Lightning would just trade him.Instead they’ll try and crush him.So goes to the NHL.

Ha – that was me!

And he DID just return a first round pick … AND a high second. I’m basing my valuation on his apparent market value and strong progression through Junior and the AHL.

But hey he’s had a few challenges partnered alongside Gryba in limited NHL action as a 21-year old, so let’s call him a bust and see if we can’t get a 3rd rounder from someone who invests in him as a reclamation project.

FFS

alice13

Caramel:

Point taken, but inasmuch as Cooper’s job is at the pleasure of the GM, and Drouin is a valuable asset to that GM, there is certainly no reason to believe Cooper has free rein to trash Drouin because ‘he doesn’t like him’. The check-and-balance is nothing like perfect, but what employment situation is? Where is fairness a guarantee?
It (draft system) is nothing that distinguishes the NHL from the rest of the pro sports world, which is what you seemed to imply.

Cassandra

John Chambers: Ha – that was me!

And he DID just return a first round pick … AND a high second. I’m basing my valuation on his apparent market value and strong progression through Junior and the AHL.

But hey he’s had a few challenges partnered alongside Gryba in limited NHL action as a 21-year old, so let’s call him a bust and see if we can’t get a 3rd rounder from someone who invests in him as a reclamation project.

FFS

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But he didn’t show strong progression through junior and the AHL. He got passed time and time again by defenseman in his draft class.

He had first round trade value for one man only. And only on the premise that he was ready for the NHL now. We know that premise was false. Hence he no longer has first round trade value.

Now I don’t want to trade him for a third round pick. That would be terrible. It’s not over for him, he could still turn into something. But let’s not keep talking about him as if he’s on track. He’s not.

I would trade him for Derrick Pouliot, another high pick from his class who is also in the AHL. Both are behind where they are supposed to be.

Woodguy

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
Woodguy,

Wait, Lindholm is a disappointment? What!? No he isn’t. He has had a rough start to the season but is coming on of late. He also was very good to finish last season.

They have a very good player there. Plus Hanifin and Faulk (and Fleury on the way).

Also Jeff Skinner is back from the dead and on fire of late. So look out.

Lindholm might be a late bloomer but his SEL numbers suggested Sedin type quality.

Now the Sedins didn’t become the Sedins until they were 25 or so, but we’ll see.

I know Lindholm intimately as I drafted him 5th that year too in my insanely competitive keeper league and he’s just not good.

Rookie year 0.36pts/gm
Rook +1 0.48pts/gm
Rooki +2 (this year) 0.38pts/gm

Meh full of meh in a pool of meh.

1.12 5v5 pts/60 this year and 1.21 5v5 pts/60 last year despite great opportunities with their best players.

4 5v4 points this year in 98 min.

Its not good man.

frjohnk

Woodguy:
CAR is a lot like FLA from last year.

Very good CF% and SC% but being sunk by a low PDO.

Last year FLA couldn’t score and got good goaltending.

This year CAR can’t score or save a puck, but both are getting better and they have points in 7 of their last 10 games.

Some CAR rankings:

5v5 CF% 53.2% (4th)

5v5 HDSCF% 52% (8th)

5v5 SCF% 51.5% (9th)

SH% (all situations)8.03% (26th)

SH% 5v56.56% (24th)

SV% (all situations) .8936 (29th)

SV% 5v5 .9082 (29th)

PDO 5v5 974 (29th)

Ward (.900 all situations)has actually outplayed Lack (.892 all situations).I’ve read that the goalie coach is trying to change Lack’s style and that stuff usually doesn’t end well.

Ward is his usual bad self running a .900 (all situations).I can’t believe how many posters here think he’s an answer.So many people just don’t pay attention.

Lack’s gone .972, .938 and .905 in his last 3 so maybe he’s coming around.

While its true that when CAR kicked EDM’s ass 4-1 in NOV that EDM wasn’t good, most didn’t give CAR any credit and they deserve lots.

They are well coached and play a good team game.

Skinner is finally rounding back into form after 2 years of concussion issues.

Lindholm is a disappointment after going 5th overall.He’s only 21, but players of his pedigree should be producing by now and he isn’t.Word is that he’s too shy to go the scoring areas.

2012 2nd rounder Phil Di Giueseppe has hit the cover off the ball since his recall 2.43 5v5 pts/60 in his first 13 games.He got hurt last game and don’t know if he’ll go tonight.

Bottom line is that I don’t expect the Oilers to win.

Bookies have CAR a slight fav at -105 to win and I think there’s value there.

Then again with RNH’s line waking up, who knows?

Also,

Nice to see Large get on board with the Unicorn idea.

If they don’t even try it I’ll be really disappointed.

Go Oilers!!

*clapclapclap*

I’m on my phone so I don’t have the numbers but when I was looking at how many shots teams are allowing from the low,medium and high danger areas Carolina was one of the best teams in allowing the least amount from the medium and high danger areas.

Their team defense is one of the best.

Goalies are their Achilles heel. Among the worst when looking at where the shots are coming from and their save percentage.

Woodguy,

Patience. He is going to be good. I have him in my keeper pool as well along with Eichel and Drouin. So I am familiar with him as well. But points aren’t the only way I am judging him aside from that and he is a gooder.

Woodguy

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

I was about to stick my toe in the Copper market, but its spooked too.

There’s so much value on the board but I have to keep telling myself to wait until the quarterly reports are out after 3 consecutive monthly gains for the commodity. (copper was up 10% in Dec)

I know demand is way off, but the market always over corrects and waits too long to factor in increase of earnings.

Gotta sit on my hands……

Bohologo

LT asks of McDavid: “If he takes warmups tonight, will the Oilers acknowledge it? Will Edmonton fans get the vapors?”

I am cross-eyed with anticipation.

If the guy actually gets on the ice for a pre-game skate I’ll probably black out.

Woodguy

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
Woodguy,

Patience. He is going to be good. I have him in my keeper pool as well along with Eichel and Drouin. So I am familiar with him as well. But points aren’t the only way I am judging him aside from that and he is a gooder.

I’m dumping him at the end of the year.

Spooner is out producing him by a ton and costs 1/3 (its a capped league where prices are set by auction so values there don’t always reflect Actual NHL value)

That said, its still pretty meh.

My plan is to dump him and then pick him up cheap during the auction next October.

No one will pick him up at his current price.

godot10

Woodguy:

Lindholm is a disappointment after going 5th overall.He’s only 21, but players of his pedigree should be producing by now and he isn’t.Word is that he’s too shy to go the scoring areas.

*clapclapclap*

The track record on the majority of Swedes is that you have to wait till they are 24 before they really break out in the NHL.