JUST NOT THAT INTO YOU

by Lowetide

Nail Yakupov is a favorite for all kinds of reasons. Stories about his generosity and kind heart appear often in local media, and if you live here chances are you have a personal story, or one told to you, about his goodness. Those stories give all of us an extra reason to cheer for him, and I do not know an Oilers fan who cheers against him.

Against that backdrop, the numbers (this year) tell us about an interesting player having a fascinating year:

  • 5×5 points per 60: 1.46 (last year 1.23)
  • 5×4 points per 60: 2.66 (last year 3.55)
  • Corsi for % 5×5: 48.9 (last year 46.3)
  • Corsi for % Rel 5×5: 1.3 (last year -6.0)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 75/5.3% (last year 191/7.3%)
  • Boxcars: 34GP, 4-10-14 (lasr year 81GP, 14-19-33)

Nail is about even in terms of boxcars compared to last season, and is more efficient at 5×5—McDavid’s help should be considered here. That said, Nail’s 1.46/60 ranks No. 169 (tie) among NHL forwards—making him in fact a 2line scoring winger (3o teams, six forwards, 180 2line players) albeit at the bottom end. Nail may not be the brightest light among No. 1 overall picks this century, but at $2.5 million my post season RE is going to be pretty complimentary about this player. I think his shooting percentage is poor, and he cannot get much done with the current centers not named Connor McDavid, but am uncertain as to why he should be blamed for that—seems to me that question is for the general manager.

NAIL AT 5X5, WITH CENTERS

  • Nail with McDavid: 7 points in 141:23 this season (2.96/60)
  • Nail with RNH: 1 point in 34:40 this season (1.73/60)
  • Nail with Lander: 1 point in 41:16 this season (1.46/60)
  • Nail with Letestu: 0 points in 157:26 this season
  • Nail with Hendricks: 0 points in 59:29 this season
  • Nail with Draisaitl: 0 points in 9:43 this season
  • Source

Nail has performed (offensively) pretty well with all of the capable centers (not much time with Leon). I don’t recall Nail spending a lot of time with Hendricks as his center, but included it here because of this:

I think this is what the kids call a ‘hot mess’ and there are three lines here that look ridiculous. That said, the overwhelming takeaway from this lineup is the following:

Dear Nail Yakupov,

They are just not that into you.

I read here and there about Todd McLellan putting him in a bad spot, but for me it is completely reasonable to play Teddy Purcell and Jordan Eberle ahead of him. Despite the early success Nail enjoyed on McDavid’s line, we all knew (and talked about) the day McDavid and Eberle were healthy together they would play together.

What is the solution for Nail Yakupov as an Edmonton Oiler? Peter Chiarelli and Todd McLellan have had the year (pretty much) with him and I think we have our answer. Teddy Purcell is on his way out of town in minutes, and if Nail doesn’t see the 2line at that time, I’ll get the ‘sail on’ post ready and we can have a collective cry (or the male version, which is basically a night of long faces) over Nail being sent away.

I love this kid. This isn’t his town.

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GCW_69:
Doesn’t it really come down to which you like better?

Hall – Nuge – Draisaitl

Pouliot – McDavid – Yak

or

Hall – Draisaitl – Yak/other

Pouliot – McDavid – Eberle

If McDavid I is the guy you want to maximize, I think you go with option two and find a new centre to replace Nuge.

If you want to balance the two lines, you keep Nuge, settle for yak on McDavid’s wing and move on.

I really don’t think yak is ready for first line duties.

GCW_69

Doesn’t it really come down to which you like better?

Hall – Nuge – Draisaitl

Pouliot – McDavid – Yak

or

Hall – Draisaitl – Yak/other

Pouliot – McDavid – Eberle

If McDavid I is the guy you want to maximize, I think you go with option two and find a new centre to replace Nuge.

If you want to balance the two lines, you keep Nuge, settle for yak on McDavid’s wing and move on.

New Improved Darkness

DRFNsuperstar: Listening to media call Edmonton a rebuild I thought to myself “we can’t even be called a rebuild anymore. Just a shitty hockey team, it’s been 10 years”

I was going through some old boxes this morning, and found some notebooks stretching back a decade or so. This was at the height of my sleep problems.

It’s pretty much a miracle that I didn’t say to myself sometime around spring 2006: “It’s been ten years. I can’t even call myself tenacious any more. I’m just a shitty person.”

Actually, I lie.

There was such a voice. I tried not to listen.

Then a miracle happened (therapy #96 actually began to work). Fuck you, stupid voice from the past.

What’s a perennial loser to do at this point? Flush the toilet on their future, or flush the toilet on their past?

I don’t think calling yourself “shitty” nudges the fudge lever in the right direction.

Pouzar

frjohnk:
Norman Greenbaum,

There is a segment of the Oiler fans population who believe Eberle is part of a soft rotten core.

Another segment who believes that Eberle has stolen precious top line minutes from Yak.And this is Eberle’s fault and he should play on the bottom of the roster.

There is another segment who see Eberle as an elite point producer over the last 5 years and has always been part of the solution.100% of this production was without a top pairing Dman.98% was without McDavid.

Before they were even put together, I thought McDavid and Eberle would be a fantastic match.These two are the smartest skilled players we have, only made sense to put them together.I’m not surprised by the results.

For the majority of the year, Hall and Draisaitl have been a top 5 duo, maybe better.

Early days, but McDavid and Eberle could be the best in the league.

I don’t see why some people have to make it a Eberle vs Yak thing.
Both are Oilers.
Cheer for both.
If people can not cheer for one without bashing the other, maybe they are not true Oiler fans.

On the money again.

Pouzar

Woodguy:
And this concludes this episode of:

WALL OF DATA

by Woodguy

Thanks for tuning in.

Thank you for that.

flyfish1168

frjohnk:
Norman Greenbaum,

There is a segment of the Oiler fans population who believe Eberle is part of a soft rotten core.

Another segment who believes that Eberle has stolen precious top line minutes from Yak.And this is Eberle’s fault and he should play on the bottom of the roster.

There is another segment who see Eberle as an elite point producer over the last 5 years and has always been part of the solution.100% of this production was without a top pairing Dman.98% was without McDavid.

Before they were even put together, I thought McDavid and Eberle would be a fantastic match.These two are the smartest skilled players we have, only made sense to put them together.I’m not surprised by the results.

For the majority of the year, Hall and Draisaitl have been a top 5 duo, maybe better.

Early days, but McDavid and Eberle could be the best in the league.

I don’t see why some people have to make it a Eberle vs Yak thing.
Both are Oilers.
Cheer for both.
If people can not cheer for one without bashing the other, maybe they are not true Oiler fans.

Well put. I have said all along, they are both Oilers embrace both. I have an Eberle jersey. But there are people here on this site that do not and has picked side.

I just like to see Nail get a constant centerman that he can work with. It doesn’t have to be top dog but one that understands his game and can guide him. He has the tools to be a good player.

Woodguy

frjohnk,

Good Ol’ Padre with his calm common sense.

No wonder you wear a robe full time.

DBO

Couple points from last few games.
– Korpikoski is not good. He has some physical skills to like, but not a good hockey player (see Oilersnation for good post on him)
– Hendricks is a much better winger then centre. Workhorse and big part of this team being miscast aka Ryan Smyrh at centre all those years ago.
– Yak gets no love with skill, so run him on a new kid line and let Yak be Yak with limited 5 on 5 and PP time.
– Set Lander free!

After they deal Purcell, and hopefully Korpse, I hope for these lines (I have accepted McClellan will run 2 scoring, one traditional checking and a limited 4th line, no Unicorns)

Hall-Nuge-Drai
Pou-McD-Eberle
Hendricks-Letestu-Pakarinen
Kassian-Lander-Yak

Jethro Tull

frjohnk,

I agree 100%.

You have to have very good complementary players. As Todd said, Connor can’t ( or shouldn’t) do it all. Very good complementary players get paid. Ask Corey Perry and Chris Mr Olympics Kunitz.

theres oil in virginia

frjohnk,

Very well said.

frjohnk

Norman Greenbaum,

There is a segment of the Oiler fans population who believe Eberle is part of a soft rotten core.

Another segment who believes that Eberle has stolen precious top line minutes from Yak. And this is Eberle’s fault and he should play on the bottom of the roster.

There is another segment who see Eberle as an elite point producer over the last 5 years and has always been part of the solution. 100% of this production was without a top pairing Dman. 98% was without McDavid.

Before they were even put together, I thought McDavid and Eberle would be a fantastic match. These two are the smartest skilled players we have, only made sense to put them together. I’m not surprised by the results.

For the majority of the year, Hall and Draisaitl have been a top 5 duo, maybe better.

Early days, but McDavid and Eberle could be the best in the league.

I don’t see why some people have to make it a Eberle vs Yak thing.
Both are Oilers.
Cheer for both.
If people can not cheer for one without bashing the other, maybe they are not true Oiler fans.

Woodguy

knighttown,

So tonight he plays with Korpse and Hendricks. These are bonafide NHLers regardless of what people think of Korpse.

I’m not concerned with what people think about Korpse.

I’m concerned with the data of his actual results: http://oilersnation.com/2016/2/13/the-korpikoski-catastrophe

Worst (or close) NHL player.

Not sure you can call that Bona Fide.

Jethro Tull

knighttown,

knighttown: And just cause I’m causing shit, I have the same worries about Darnell Nurse.Every rush ends up in the corner.I remember a 3-on-3 shift when he and Nuge and Ebs dominated.He ended up in the corner with his back to the play and the other team was exhausted cause NUge-Ebs had done their thing.He had outlets everywhere but just couldn’t make the right read and passed it directly onto the opponents stick.

Don’t get me wrong, Nurse can be one heck of a player without ever scoring a point but I don’t see him turning his spectacular physical gifts into big offensive production.I see Erik Johnson and Joni PItkanen, two other gifted physical specimans without the elite hockey IQ, as his top-top upside and Jack Johnson as a more reasonable bet. Certainly not Chris Pronger.

This is where we need G and his awesome data.

Because I remember two or three rushes where Nurse went in on the goalie and nearly scored. I suspect the truth is between the two of our points of view!

It is way too early to make the call on Nurse. His rookie mistakes are there on national broadcasts for all to see. He is here because sadly, as flawed and inexperienced as he is, he’s better than the rest of the prospects and failures at the farm.

frjohnk

Salary cap could be going down by $4M.
http://oilersnation.com/2016/2/12/could-the-edmonton-oilers-survive-a-4mm-drop-in-the-salary-cap

Yikes!

That defense roster is not playoff worthy.

But Yak at $2.5M would be a nice fit in the middle 6.

Jethro Tull

flyfish1168:
schultz supposedly has the tools to play top pairing D. Makes mistakes all over the ice but yet coaches keep sending him out with top line minutes.Yak has tools to be top line winger but yet coaches seem to not play him with top line players and minutes.

I like to see Jordan play bottom 6 for a bit (not likely to happen) I truly believe he would not be able to carry the play. i believe only Taylor and Conner are the only players truly able to carry the play on this team. JMHO

Hey Fly, just to clear something up: Your litmus test for a good player is to run them bottom six (after they just scored a hattrick) to see if they can carry the play?

To continue flogging the dead horse, Eberle is one of the most consistent point producers in the game. Yak is not, at least not yet. And if you believe this is because of Canadian kid privilege or Shawn Fucking Offensive Dynamo Horcoff, then I just don’t know what would convince you. 🙂

northof51

Timely that Knighttown just weighed in – Yak’s struggles seem to be a product of how dam effective the NHL is at neutralizing his skill set. Yak doesn’t have Hall’s reckless speed, nor Eberle’s deft touch around the net, nor RNH’s vision, nor (can’t think of a current Oiler with this skill) Smyth’s get-to-the-front-of-the-net-at-all-costs determination.

He seems to be missing something at the NHL level, and it certainly isn’t just skilled line mates. If I were TMac, I’d be sitting down Yak for a few days to watch Smytty highlights.

Edit: I’m going to sit myself down and watch Smytty highlights for a few days.

hunter1909

Seeing them get slaughtered(Montreal+NYI) after RNH went down probably finished the season for me.

Even McDavid’s 5 points barely registered, since the rest of the team was pretty bad at playing hockey.

Chiarelli must be wondering wtf he’s been sold via Lowe+MacT – given the disaster that’s been every player they procured outside the top 25 of the draft. Thankfully, he’s been prudent enough to ignore the Lowetide poster’s chorus – that is, throwing away assets in desperation of competing with essentially the same team as presently constituted.

Add two more top 4 defencemen, Chiarelli. Forget about counting the chickens that make up the current roster; players like Justin Schultz.

knighttown

knighttown:
Yak doesn’t do much for me and honestly, never has.I never quite got where the offense was going to come from.Hockey IQ is below average and the result is that he’s rarely in the right place and has trouble making the correct read when the puck is on his stick unless he can see the play right in front of him.

And just cause I’m causing shit, I have the same worries about Darnell Nurse. Every rush ends up in the corner. I remember a 3-on-3 shift when he and Nuge and Ebs dominated. He ended up in the corner with his back to the play and the other team was exhausted cause NUge-Ebs had done their thing. He had outlets everywhere but just couldn’t make the right read and passed it directly onto the opponents stick.

Don’t get me wrong, Nurse can be one heck of a player without ever scoring a point but I don’t see him turning his spectacular physical gifts into big offensive production. I see Erik Johnson and Joni PItkanen, two other gifted physical specimans without the elite hockey IQ, as his top-top upside and Jack Johnson as a more reasonable bet. Certainly not Chris Pronger.

flyfish1168

schultz supposedly has the tools to play top pairing D. Makes mistakes all over the ice but yet coaches keep sending him out with top line minutes. Yak has tools to be top line winger but yet coaches seem to not play him with top line players and minutes.

I like to see Jordan play bottom 6 for a bit (not likely to happen) I truly believe he would not be able to carry the play. i believe only Taylor and Conner are the only players truly able to carry the play on this team. JMHO

knighttown

Yak doesn’t do much for me and honestly, never has. I never quite got where the offense was going to come from. Hockey IQ is below average and the result is that he’s rarely in the right place and has trouble making the correct read when the puck is on his stick unless he can see the play right in front of him.

But here’s why I don’t lose sleep over Yakupov…

1. That draft class sucks anyway. Of the people being considered at 1OV, none really jump out at me as being huge difference makers. Gally, Murray? Eh…maybe better than Yak but they aren’t 1OVs either. Sure there are a couple of nice defensmen like Rielly, Lindholm and Trouba but they weren’t in the conversation and so it’s unfair to say we should have picked Trouba.

But more importantly…

2. Here’s the list of 1OV’s salary cap hits on their SECOND contract:
-Ovechkin $9,500,000
-Crosby $8,750,000
-Nash $7,800,000
-Stamkos $7,500,000
-Kane $6,300,000
-Hall $6,000,000
-Nuge $6,000,000
-Tavares $5,500,000
-Fleury $5,000,000
-E. Johnson $3,750,000
-Yakupov $2,500,000

Johnson was a generation ago when second contracts were major hardball so Yak gets paid about 1/3 of what his comparables got coming out of their ELC.

Props to both Igor and Yak for understanding what his client is and more importantly, isn’t. He’s a first overall pick in a year without a real first overall pick. Can you imagine if he had demanded Hall/Nuge money?

We need to start looking at Yak like Jason Zucker. He’s a high energy guy that can play up and down the lineup and be featured on the second power play.

I’ve yelled from the rooftops that playing 3rd/4th line is a blessing not a curse. Sure he’s playing with Letestu and Kassian and Hendricks and Korpse but he’s playing against Byron Fraise, Nick Spaling and Bobby Farnham. NAIL YAKUPOV playing with real NHLers should be enough to push the play against this type of fodder.

Breaking it down to a minor hockey level. My kid is a first year Atom player and plays AA (the top level in NS). He does fine out there but as a first year he struggles a bit. If he played B instead he’d have way worse linemates but of course the expectation would be for him to produce more. Why isn’t this the same thing? Every shift is a separate game. Yak is playing Atom B and he’s a true AA talent (top 6er) he should be ripping it up as long as he has real NHLers. He frigging shouldn’t need Taylor Hall AND to play Atom B.

So tonight he plays with Korpse and Hendricks. These are bonafide NHLers regardless of what people think of Korpse. They’ll play 4th line against Thorburn, Copp and Burmistrov. That’s actually quite similar with Burmistrov the skilled, top-10 drafted guy. No one is asking him to score 6 but shouldn’t they have a good shot at winning their matchup?

I’d rather that than have him Ladd-Little-Wheeler.

Woodguy

And this concludes this episode of:

WALL OF DATA

by Woodguy

Thanks for tuning in.

Woodguy

And Eberle’s net effect:

NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN 1.34
HALL, TAYLOR 1.12
GAGNER, SAM -0.22
HORCOFF, SHAWN -0.16
POULIOT, BENOIT -0.12
SMYTH, RYAN 2.87
YAKUPOV, NAIL -2.6
PAAJARVI, MAGNUS 0.01
PERRON, DAVID 0.46
COGLIANO, ANDREW -1.55
JONES, RYAN -0.15
ARCOBELLO, MARK 0.23
HARTIKAINEN, TEEMU 2.47
PURCELL, TEDDY -1.93
LARSEN, PHILIP -0.37
GORDON, BOYD 1.23
LANDER, ANTON 0.46

Good with Hall and RNH.

Only a big drag on players outside the org for a long period of time (Cogs, Purcell who’s team’s GA/60 were a world away from the Oilers)

A drag on Yak, (who knew?)

Overall a positive contributor

Woodguy

Last, but not least, the net effect each player has on their most common forward line mates on total GF/60 – GA/60

This boils it down to “what you create – what you give up”

Yak:

GAGNER, SAM -0.01
ROY, DEREK -1.15
PURCELL, TEDDY -0.48
NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN -2.97
POULIOT, BENOIT -1.4
EBERLE, JORDAN -3.74
ARCOBELLO, MARK -0.44
PERRON, DAVID 0.83
HEMSKY, ALES -1.15
HALL, TAYLOR 0.53
DRAISAITL, LEON -3.84
LETESTU, MARK -0.81
PAAJARVI, MAGNUS 0.87
LANDER, ANTON 0.09
MCDAVID, CONNOR 0.94
SMYTH, RYAN -0.25
HORCOFF, SHAWN 3.86

Again we see the same results. Decent with Gagner (no effect, so as good as Gagner’s other mates)

Horrible with RNH, Eberle, Saddle, etc.

Slight drag on most others

Good with Hall and McDavid.

Woodguy

GA/60 differences for Eberle:

NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN 0.56
HALL, TAYLOR 0.31
GAGNER, SAM -1.19
HORCOFF, SHAWN -0.75
POULIOT, BENOIT -0.76
SMYTH, RYAN 0.46
YAKUPOV, NAIL -2.52
PAAJARVI, MAGNUS -0.57
PERRON, DAVID 0.44
COGLIANO, ANDREW -1.17
JONES, RYAN -0.31
ARCOBELLO, MARK -0.87
HARTIKAINEN, TEEMU 0.74
PURCELL, TEDDY -1.06
GORDON, BOYD 0.43
LANDER, ANTON -0.74

Definielty more of a mixed bag here for Eberle on the other side of the puck.

Good effect on Hall and RNH, but past that its not good.

Woodguy

Now lets do GA/60 differences for the same groups of forwards.

If the number is negative, then they experience more GA/60 with Yak than away.

GAGNER, SAM -0.37
ROY, DEREK -0.95
PURCELL, TEDDY 0.43
NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN -1.88
POULIOT, BENOIT -1.45
EBERLE, JORDAN -3.1
ARCOBELLO, MARK 0.01
PERRON, DAVID 0.58
HEMSKY, ALES 0.24
HALL, TAYLOR -0.32
DRAISAITL, LEON -1.98
LETESTU, MARK 0.24
PAAJARVI, MAGNUS -0.81
LANDER, ANTON -0.05
MCDAVID, CONNOR 0.77
SMYTH, RYAN -0.19
HORCOFF, SHAWN 0.73

Similar results to the GF/60 I think.

When he moves up the roster the results aren’t good, when he is in a secondary role its ok.

Let the record show that at 19 games in McDavid scores more and gets scored on less with Yak. 🙂

Also,

Oh Kaptain My Kaptain.

Fuck MacT.

Man

Woodguy

Same exercise for Eberle.

Strangely, he too has played with 17 forward over 100min in his career.

NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN 0.78
HALL, TAYLOR 0.81
GAGNER, SAM 0.97
HORCOFF, SHAWN 0.59
POULIOT, BENOIT 0.64
SMYTH, RYAN 2.41
YAKUPOV, NAIL -0.08
PAAJARVI, MAGNUS 0.58
PERRON, DAVID 0.02
COGLIANO, ANDREW -0.38
JONES, RYAN 0.16
ARCOBELLO, MARK 1.1
HARTIKAINEN, TEEMU 1.73
PURCELL, TEDDY -0.87
GORDON, BOYD -0.56
LANDER, ANTON 1.18

Most everyone is much better with Eberle than away, save for a few players lower on the list. (mostly players who played a lot on other teams in this time frame)

That’s a pretty impressive result for his career.

Woodguy

Here is every forward Yak has played over 100 min with in his career.

There are 17 of them and its in order by 5v5 TOI together.

The number next to the name is the increase or decrease in GF/60 for that player away from Yak.

I.e. Gagner is .36 so his GF/60 rate is .36 better with Yak. Roy was .20 worse with Yak

GAGNER, SAM 0.36
ROY, DEREK -0.20
PURCELL, TEDDY -0.91
NUGENT-HOPKINS, RYAN -1.09
POULIOT, BENOIT 0.05
EBERLE, JORDAN -0.64
ARCOBELLO, MARK -0.45
PERRON, DAVID 0.25
HEMSKY, ALES -1.39
HALL, TAYLOR 0.85
DRAISAITL, LEON -1.86
LETESTU, MARK -1.05
PAAJARVI, MAGNUS 1.68
LANDER, ANTON 0.14
MCDAVID, CONNOR 0.17
SMYTH, RYAN -0.06
HORCOFF, SHAWN 3.13

The take away here?

Yak plays hockey like Nuke Laloosh fucks and pitches….kinda all over the place.

He’s OK in a secondary role, but was a big drag on both DrySaddle and Arco.

Sruggles big time with tougher minutes UNLESS its with Hall or McDavid.

That could describe a lot of players.

Also,

Horcoff +3.10

Horcoff w/ Yak 118min 5.05 GF.60 (!!!!) (McDavi’d 3.8 is an unreal number, this one is ludicrous)

Oh Kaptain My Kaptain!!!

No wonder rookie Yak was so pleased to play with you.

MacT pushing you out the door and not replacing the “vet who can hold hands” is another disaster on the long list of MacT GM accomplishments.

russ99

I don’t think the clock is ticking for one big reason.

He’s signed to a fairly cheap bridge deal for next year, and the cap looks to be going down. Also due to this, he’s more part of the McDavid cluster than the Hall cluster, of which players are going to me moved from.

Also, his usage seems to be more McLellan getting him to learn a 200 foot game without an Eakins-like throw under the bus, and the kid has shown a ton of effort.

When Ebs $6M gets dealt for our defenseman, we’re not going to lose too much slotting Yak in and all the hard work he’s putting in will pay off.

spoiler

The clock is ticking… I hope Yak hears it.

BONVIE

mujidog:
I’m a Yakcity fan and the guy has had like 14 NHL coaches in his short career, but we still don’t really know what he is or can be at the NHL level. Hence, Yakupov the former 1st overall selection is a disappointment.

At this point, what draft position would he have had to be to NOT be a disappointment?

8th overall? Mid 1st rounder? 25th overall? Early 2nd rounder? Third rounder?
This is depressing, but I’d say mid-2nd rounder. If Yakupov was drafted in the 2nd round, we’d be saying things like, “hmm… his performance and development matches our expectations”

Disappointment for first overall yes but there are lots of players taken in the first round especially from 10th overall down that dont even play NHL games and the Oilers have had a high percentage of draft busts in the first round that barely played any NHL games. Lets start from
2000 with Mhinkov, Niinimaki, then there is those like Schremp, Poulliot, Plante, Nash, who played a few games in the NHL, but definitely not impact players.

BONVIE

Wow thats a long list of excuses in the comments section for Yakapov. I never understood why so many posters dream up every possible excuse for him to account for his poor play. With all that said I would rather have Yakapov play right wing with Draisatel and Hall, then to consider using poor man’s Toby Peterson centering Hall and Draisatel. Id rather have a softer defensive winger playing top 6 then a soft defensive center playing top 6.

In the end they might just keep Purcell with them come game time, and perhaps The Todd is just giving that line a wake up call.

MacT's Neglected Helmet

I’m a Yakcity fan and the guy has had like 14 NHL coaches in his short career, but we still don’t really know what he is or can be at the NHL level. Hence, Yakupov the former 1st overall selection is a disappointment.

At this point, what draft position would he have had to be to NOT be a disappointment?

8th overall? Mid 1st rounder? 25th overall? Early 2nd rounder? Third rounder?
This is depressing, but I’d say mid-2nd rounder. If Yakupov was drafted in the 2nd round, we’d be saying things like, “hmm… his performance and development matches our expectations”

hags9k

rickithebear,

Whatever you say Ricki, I think there’s still hope for him to emerge, even without 97. Give all these forwards a top D pair and they will get better looks.

JD_Wry

For anyone wanting to watch archived streams, this seems to work very nicely:

http://koditips.com/kodi-pro-sport-addon-streams-from-reddit/

Obviously you have to install kodi first.

But yesterday’s game v the Leafs is nowhere to be found out there – not even on that Russian youtube-like site. I guess nobody wants to devote server resources to a game between the two last place teams.

SoCaloil

dangilitis,

RNH needs either skill or power 2way similar to Kopitar -Lucic
yak hasn’t meshed w Nuge

Nuge – Kassian for this year
Nuge-Leon
Nuge-stammer ( one can dream)
Nuge – Lucic

Shit Perron won’t re-sign but equivalent

And a third wheel

SoCaloil

Yaks +/- also tells a story
It was a league low -33 or so for the past two years
What is it this year? Much much better

He’s not cheating for offense, playing w whom he got and not bitching ala Drouin

One thing we learned last year is that he does need a particular C to play with
Think he’s been working on his overall game rather than just shots
Plus I noticed little support on his o zone sorties

If he was drafted later, he’d be playing with a couple veterans getting proper mentoring
Getting AHL train in if needed
But because oilers

I really hope he gets a C w whom he clicks

Centre of attention

Quinlan:
Centre of attention,

Khaira’s been playing a lot of center.

Good.

Quinlan

Centre of attention,

Khaira’s been playing a lot of center.

dangilitis

Klink should be played above Korpikoski, at least he is showing that he wants to be in the NHL

I would pencil in a last chance texaco for Pitlick but I think sadly he is lost.

Khaira would be a good option based on recent play, but he probably benefits more from higher minutes in the AHL rather than 3rd/4th line W to Letestu or Hendricks. Unless they want to try him out as a 4th C with Hendricks as mentor on the W

Miller – man, don’t know whose leg he needs to hump to get another chance. 94 pts in past 99 AHL games on a team starved for offence, and 6 pts in a 9 game NHL debut playing alongside skill. Lander scored 8 pts in his first ~100 games.

Was starting to get sentimental about Purcell but I have been sufficiently convinced that trading him is best. Especially with playoff picture clearly out of view, drop-off in pts, and need to give Yak a C ASAP.

After the trade I would run
McMagic line
Hall-Draisaitl-Yakupov
Iiro-Letestu-Kassian
Hendricks-Lander/Khaira-Miller/Klink

Then when RNH returns:
Davo’s devils
Hall-Draisaitl-Kassian
Iiro-RNH-Yak
Hendricks-Letestu-Miller/Lander

Thoughts?

Centre of attention

Lowetide,

Is Khaira playing wing mostly for the Condors?

I always thought he would be that big, physical, two-way center. Maybe this “hybrid forward” thing is a new trend. Platzer/Miller bounce between center and wing as well it seems.

DevilsLettuce

Yak playing on the Gord damn 4th, sin.

Gordon Damn Lightfoot Letestu playing beside Hall, and Teddy beside the good Dr.

All the while Yak is playing with Love his heart Hendricks and Petrell the return.

He produced when given the chance this season.

Yet. 4th line.. Left wing.

Good golly.

I’ll cheer for Yak even as a Flame ?

Aron_S

Condors win 3-2 after a late deflection makes it past Nilsson on a Ehrhoff point shot. 37 saves on 39 shots.

rickithebear

hags9k:
I imagine Yak will be just fine if he ever takes his first shift in his career with both a strong defense and a strong center.
Right now he is like a supercharger on a car with 2 flat tires.
Pray for balance.

The two flat tires are his hocket sense and shooting accuracy!

We quote WOWY

When they build our 4 lines with thbest WOWY pairs

People act like the high school girlfriend.
All heart. No brain!
He needs Mcdavids.

dustrock

Yak seems like a chill bro but he has to be one of the worst #1 draft picks of all time. Didn’t Schremp score 200 points in junior or something? Some guys have all the tools to destroy junior but don’t have the toolbox to star in the NHL.

Don’t really see why it’s a different story from Jultz. Player fails, organization fails. Time to move on.

anonymous

mustang:
I really don’t understand the love fest for Yak. I like the guy as a person what I know of him. That part I understand. Yak has always been a player that never used his teammates well. I noticed in the world juniors before he was drafted that he would try and go through the whole team instead of passing to a teammate. It was like he didn’t understand that his teammates could play as well. Well, that does’t work in the NHL and it hasn’t. He looked ok with #97 because he actually got the puck and moved it instantly to Connor which was a great plan. But saying that he never set the world on fire by any means.
If he was really that good he would be pushing his way up the lineup, but he isn’t. I wish he would, but he just doesn’t have the confidence or the hockey IQ to push to the top. I guess you can blame every coach and every GM but it all comes back to him. Like LT says “it’s time for a second opinion”

Nonsense. He had 9 assists I believe in the world juniors and was one of Russia’s best players. 17 points in 13 games over two tournaments.

rickithebear

the center Hall is most productive with is Letestu.
The forward he is worst with is Eberle.
0 PTS in 80 min EVTOI

If we use WOWY
the best Forward pairs or Lines are.

pouliot-Mcdavid-Eberle
Hall-Letestu-XXX
XXX-Draisatl-Purcell

They added Pakiraines speed and pressure to Draisatl/Purcell
Pak-Drai-Purcell

Kassian is best with Letestu
Hall-Letestu-Kassian

Yak is great with Mcdavid
but his numbers are not better than pouliot or Eberle’s
We want to win! Right!
Yaks 2nd best number are with Korpikoski
Yak-XXX-Lorpikoski

Well Hendricks FO% and PK
His best numbers are with Hall, then with korpikoski.
Yak-Hendricks-Korpiloski

Almost every line has two Pairs of Forward with there best or Second Best performances.

pouliot-Mcdavid-Eberle
Pouliot-Mcdavid
Mcdcvid-Eberle

Hall-Letestu-Kassin
Hall-Letestu
Lestestu-Kassian

Pakarinen-Draisatl-Purcel
Draw-Purcell

Yak-Hendricks-Korpikoski
Yak-Koro
Hendricks-Korp