G61 2015-16 SENATORS AT OILERS

by Lowetide

In the final days of the Justin Schultz era, we are talking about what went wrong. I think we all agree 19 was thrust into the deep end—too much minutes—too soon, and he never did develop because of it. Schultz was a workhorse rookie, but the Oilers learned from it:

ROOKIE D, ICE TIME PER GAME (RANK)

  • 2012-13 Justin Schultz 21:26 per game (No. 3)
  • 2014-15 Oscar Klefbom 21:59 per game (No. 1)
  • 2015-16 Darnell Nurse 20:45 per game (No. 1)

In putting Schultz (and now Nurse) into a major role out of the box, it forces development (or regression). Klefbom is a different case, as Craig MacTavish (correctly) kept him in the minors for most of his 20-year old season (Oscar was 21 in 2014-15).

WHEATFIELD SOUL, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2014: 4-5-1
  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0
  • Oilers in November 2014: 2-9-3
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2
  • Oilers in December 2014: 2-8-4
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1
  • Oilers in January 2015: 5-7-1
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2
  • Oilers in February 2015: 5-6-1
  • Oilers in February 2016: 3-6-1
  • Oilers after 60 in 2014-15: 17-33-10, 44 points (-65 GD)
  • Oilers after 60 in 2015-16: 22-32-6, 50 points (-33 GD)

The one thing fans had to hold on to this season was the Goddams, but the Oilers have been flagging badly in that area in the last few weeks. Last year’s Oilers lost a 2-1 game to the Anaheim Ducks, Iiro Pakarinen had five shots in that game.

DEFENSE, 2015-16

OILERS DEFENSE OVER SEASON

  • Brandon Davidson is one of three (Klefbom-Davidson-Nurse) lefties drafted by the Oilers who I can see playing a massive amount next season. You never know, prospects don’t develop in a straight line, but I have a feeling Brandon Davidson is going to play a bigger role than Nurse (or Griffin Reinhart, who will probably be the first recall—if the bonus worry doesn’t scare management away).
  • Andrej Sekera and Mark Fayne would appear to be the incumbents RH side, although I still think we could see Eric Gryba signed. A lot of what happens this week (Fayne trade, Gryba signing?) will inform the summer.
  • We do know Justin Schultz will not return.
  • Darnell Nurse has gone from being the golden boy to trade bait in his time in the NHL. I think he will be just fine, but honestly wonder if the Oilers have any idea about the history of running these guys ragged as rookies. In case anyone wonders, this is NOT the way Montreal handled Larry Robinson (he was in the AHL for year one and part of year two pro). If you are losing faith in Darnell Nurse, perhaps a quick look through NHL history will help. Playing NHL defense at 20 is a very difficult thing to do, and it is doubly difficult when your coach runs you out there for 20:45 a game.
  • Griffin Reinhart next to Nurse in the graph above is interesting. What is the gap? Where is Nurse clearly better? Interestingly, high-danger scoring chances seems to be a strength for Nurse. I don’t think Darnell is going to be a major point-producer in the NHL (say, 25-35 points a year), but he is a much better bet than Reinhart in that area based on NHLEs. A lot of the value from both men is going to be defensive (should they develop into useful NHL players).
  • You may chase me down with pitchforks by noon, but sending down Nurse and recalling Reinhart might do both men a world of good. Oilers are not chasing anything important now, and getting Nurse back on track as a prospect is very important.

CENTERS, 2015-16

oilers centers over season

  • Connor McDavid’s On-Ice scoring chance per 60 is spiking in a maniacal fashion. He was 27.21 on the night of his return Feb 2, 2016. He was also 2.72/60 5×5; 5.00/60 5×4; had 10 high-danger scoring chances and was 51.59 Corsi for 5×5, 4.85 CorsiRel. Up in all areas since he returned. Lordy.
  • Leon Draisaitl has changed the way we think about next season and beyond, with a stunning 50-game run through the heart of the season. IF the Oilers move Nuge, they sure as hell better find a veteran 3C who can lift heavy things.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins may or may not be in play. The rumors have been going on for some time now, suspect if anything happens it will be summer. Still, there seem to be hints dropping everywhere, and Nuge isn’t going to be 3C. IF they trade him? A lot of teams would value him highly, including Anaheim, Carolina, Columbus, Montreal, New Jersey, Ottawa, St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Vancouver, Winnipeg. He would fetch a nice defenseman, but I will miss modern Keon a lot if he goes.
  • Can PC run McDavid—Draisaitl—Eller—Letestu—Khaira? Yes. It costs $13,369,000 in cap for those five men. I would keep Nuge, run Leon on RW and trade the pick.

WINGERS, 2015-16

oil forwards over season

  • Hall—Eberle look to have made it through the rumors, Hall with his incredible ability to push the river and Eberle with those magic hands. They could be the only remnants of their cluster soon, should PC trade Nuge and keep Leon, Darnell, etc from the McDavid cluster.
  • Benoit Pouliot is a quality NHL winger, Teddy Purcell is too. I don’t know that either is going to be here in the fall.

GOAT’S HEAD SOUP

The greatest rock and roll band ever is the Rolling Stones, and they were at their peak from 1968 (Beggar’s Banquet) through Goats Head Soup in 1973 (Jimmy Miller was in on all of them). The key to the golden age of the Stones is a guy named Mick Taylor who I won’t bore you with, but he was brilliant and his touch is all over their best music.

Anyway, the Stones were rolling through so much great music in the early 1970s it seemed it would never end. The men who recorded those albums had a special sound, it is glorious. After Taylor left, it was pretty obvious (by Black & Blue for sure) something was missing. They were still the Stones, but no longer THE Stones.

Along about 1981, a Stones song hit my radio and blew me away. It was called ‘Waiting on a Friend’ and it was the best song they had put out in a long damned time. I loved it, from the simple guitar line launch to the fat saxophone that sends the song away. Beautiful. The song had its origins with the Mick Taylor Stones back in the Goat’s Head Soup era. The band loved the song, but couldn’t find the lyrics, so they could not unlock the song until years later. I never knew that (seriously) until recently, but I always kind of knew it. You know? It was too good to be Ron Wood Stones, had to be from the mainline.

I think Nail Yakupov is ‘Waiting on a Friend’ in that he and the Oilers cannot find the words. I don’t think Nail’s story ends with him playing 15 seasons in the KHL, but rather in another NHL city where he finds success. If the trade comes this week, I think we are all ready for it, probably better than waiting for summer.

FRIEDMAN ON THE REDDIT

I don’t go on Reddit (my daughter has been there, she likes it, so maybe it is for the young folks?) but Friedman is a helluva get for the company (is it a company? or a band of gypsies?). Anyway, the line about Edmonton having one major move? I will guess Nuge to somewhere for a good, expensive defenseman.

Who might be coming to Edmonton, for Nuge or another? I will guess Sami Vatanen (ANA), Dougie Hamilton (CGY), Brent Seabrook (CHI), Travis Hamonic (NYI), Jacob Trouba (WPG—would have to be a bigger, multi-player deal). I doubt it happens, but if Friedman is saying it, I trust there is something out there.

TRADE VALUES

Frank Seravalli of TSN set trade values for various rentals, has Purcell (2nd) and Schultz (3rd) covered in this article. Those assessments match mine, here is my list (I put Gryba back on the list, but he is injured and his being dealt seems doubtful):

  1. RW Teddy Purcell—He is gone, suspect we will see a second-round pick (or a legit prospect).
  2. F Matt Hendricks—Chiarelli is unlikely to trade Hendricks, but there is always a chance an offer changes his mind. I recall someone mentioning there was significant interest last deadline. Second-round pick.
  3. D Mark Fayne—A bit tricky, for two reasons. He is helping now, so the Oilers could use him for the first 60 games next year and shop him at the deadline. Call it righty blue insurance. Return? Second-round pick if the Oilers retain salary (defensemen are always worth more at the deadline).
  4. D Justin Schultz—He is gone if they can find a taker, I think they will. Third-round pick.
  5. D Eric Gryba—I think they will sign him unless a team offers up full value (and his being injured is a major development). He should fetch a fourth-round selection, about what he cost the Oilers.
  6. L Lauri Korpikoski—Perhaps Chiarelli can save Todd McLellan from himself. If he can trade Korpikoski, Chiarelli is a mad genius. Fifth-round pick obo.
  7. C Anton Lander—New addition because I refuse to let Gryba ruin trade deadlinemas. A team needing a very inexpensive forward as insurance might have the time. Sixth-round pick.

TOP 10 OILERS TRADE TARGETS

Aside from the draft picks, there are some nice players who could be available, either AHL prospects or NHL role players who could help in the coming seasons. Here is my top 10:

  1. D Travis Hamonic, New York Islanders. I cannot create a scenario where Garth Snow makes him available at the deadline, but will list him because he is a perfect fit for Edmonton.
  2. D Sami Vatanen, Anaheim Ducks. Similar to Hamonic in that this would probably be a summer deal, but if the Ducks need a scoring forward for their SC run, this could happen soon.
  3. D Dougie Hamilton, Calgary Flames. Last year’s big trade between the Bruins and Flames reportedly curtailed an offer sheet, but Chiarelli may still be interested. Edmonton has the assets to get this trade done if it is there—including cap relief.
  4. D Brandon Montour, Anaheim Ducks. Enjoying a fantastic AHL season, he is a puck-moving defender and a power-play wizard.
  5. C Mark McNeill, Chicago Blackhawks. Righty two-way center who has toiled in the minors for three seasons, Edmonton might like him as the new Anton Lander.
  6. R Jiri Sekac, Chicago Blackhawks. Young enough (23) to grow with this group, he has impressive skills and enough experience to be a sure plug and play.
  7. L Austin Wagner, Regina Pats. Edmonton’s skill forward list below the NHL level is very poor, adding a junior scorer like Wagner makes tremendous sense.
  8. R Henrik Samuelsson, Arizona Coyotes. Former Edmonton Oil Kings star has struggled in pro hockey, but has a pretty substantial skill set.
  9. R Beau Starrett, Chicago Blackhawks. A big (6.05, 205) forward with quick hands (via Red Line Report) and that is what Chiarelli is chasing.
  10. R Justin Auger, Los Angeles Kings. A giant (6.07, 229) on skates, this 21-year old would be exactly the kind of player Peter Chiarelli is looking to add (48, 11-10-21 in the AHL this season).

FARM WORKERS

The Oesterle recall further empties the bench for the Oilers, what is left? I always find the best way to track these minor league chaps is to post what they have been doing since January 1. Here is the list:

  1. C Andrew Miller 18, 6-12-18
  2. C Jujhar Khaira 15, 5-9-14
  3. L Rob Klinkhammer 11, 9-4-13
  4. D Jordan Oesterle 20, 2-11-13 (recalled)
  5. R Tyler Pitlick 16, 4-8-12
  6. L Ryan Hamilton 20, 7-5-12
  7. L Josh Winquist 10, 5-6-11
  8. LD Joey Laleggia 15, 4-7-11
  9. LD Brad Hunt 11, 2-5-7
  10. LD Dillon Simpson 19, 1-5-6
  11. L Anton Slepyshev 9, 3-1-4
  12. D David Musil 20, 0-4-4
  13. L Luke Gazdic 8, 1-2-3
  14. D Griffin Reinhart 15, 1-2-3
  15. G Laurent Brossoit 27, 2.72 .920 (over the season)

Who would I like to see? Jujhar Khaira looks like he could be a useful role player, I would like Todd McLellan to see Tyler Pitlick before they cut him loose, David Musil needs a look before the waiver issue in the fall. I am curious about Anton Slepyshev, so wouldn’t mind seeing him here for the final 20 games. As mentioned above, if Reinhart and Nurse trade places, that is probably a positive long term for the organization.

GARRIOCH

Bruce Garrioch has a column up about Ottawa possibly trading Shane Prince and Patrick Wiercioch, plus Tampa Bay shopping Erik Condra. I like all three at some level, but Condra ($1.25M, two years left) is an excellent penalty killer and possession player. Article is here.

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LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

As the deadline nears, more trade talk on the Lowdown, 10 this morning on TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, Cult of Hockey. Oilers at the deadline, do they make that big trade?
  • Don Landry, CFL.ca. CFL free agency was a whirlwind, are the lesser teams any closer to the powerhouse clubs?
  • Lyle Richardson, Spector’s Hockey. Trade deadline rumors, and is the activity this year (based on rumors) heavier?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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godot10

Sugar Reijo:
One measure of the Kurtzian horror that is being an Oiler fan is how seldom Auston Matthews is mentioned in these parts, as if we’re all straining to pretend like we didn’t lose our shame glands while cheering for this sad sack organization some while ago.

Has any fanbase in any sport ever sat where we currently do in the standings and so actively avoided mentioning just even the prospect of picking first?

I don’t think you understand probability. Why talk about something that is a 20% probability at best?

If the Oilers finish 30th, the discussion which is relevant is Puljujarvi or Tkachuk or Chychrun, since the probability of getting Matthews or Laine is way less than 50%.

GCW_69

stevezie:
GCW_69,

Oh the defence was terrible. No argument there. I’m not defending the roster so much as our place in the standings. I thought we’d draft 7-10, maybe as high as 12 if we went on a run, low as five if we went on a slide.

I don’t think I’m a blind optimist. The injuries dropped us to last, but we were never good.

75 should have put the Oilers around 25th. So, I didn’t see last place, but I did say one or two key injuries would drop us deep in the lottery. I have sort of learned outside of the draft lottery, the only luck the Oilers have is bad.

Bruce McCurdy

AsiaOil:
Honestly this was the 2nd game in a row where Justin Shultz loses it pretty much on his own with an assist from Jordan Eberle who seems to be enjoying his role as Sam Gagner in the movie “also seen in picture after opposition goal”. Let’s just stop the madness and trade Shultz for anything if there is indeed a buyer out there. Otherwise waive him and send him home. Shultz, Ference, Nikitin, Fayne – that $15.5 million of utter crap MacT signed and said he was still pretty happy with last spring – pisses me off he still gets to hang around after that.

TMac is pissed off and he’s right to be – this team needs heart surgery – Hall maybe survives the purge of the old core – but Shultz and Ebs can move on – RNH I’m on the fence with as he’s a center and Yak was never part of that group but he’s a mess. It’s McDavid’s and Hall’s team if Hall can share – if not – then you move him as well. Big changes coming or make you reservation for the same thing next year.

Man if you are picking Eberle out of that game that spaks more to your agenda than to what actually happened. Eberle scored the Oilers lone goal, his line absolutely dominated the shot clock, & he got saddled with a minus when Schultz screwed the pooch. But hey, he was out there so let’s just drive by & take a pot shot at him for auld lang syne.

GCW_69

godot10:
The Oilers have become a political meme:

Lawrence Martin in the Globe and Mail:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/can-style-hide-the-stumbles/article28844713/
“The rap is that while the Liberals are scoring on style, they’re sputtering on content. By pedigree their cabinet of well-schooled and fresh-thinking types compares well with almost any. But shortage of experience there and in the Prime Minister’s Office is showing. The rookies on the team are losing sight of the puck and the net. The risk, while we’re on hockey analogies, is that this outfit will become the political equivalent of the Edmonton Oilers. A much ballyhooed team of young stars impressive everywhere except in the column that counts. Results.”

Ouch!

That is beautiful. It’s funny because it’s true.

Sugar Reijo

One measure of the Kurtzian horror that is being an Oiler fan is how seldom Auston Matthews is mentioned in these parts, as if we’re all straining to pretend like we didn’t lose our shame glands while cheering for this sad sack organization some while ago.

Has any fanbase in any sport ever sat where we currently do in the standings and so actively avoided mentioning just even the prospect of picking first?

stevezie

GCW_69,

Oh the defence was terrible. No argument there. I’m not defending the roster so much as our place in the standings. I thought we’d draft 7-10, maybe as high as 12 if we went on a run, low as five if we went on a slide.

I don’t think I’m a blind optimist. The injuries dropped us to last, but we were never good.

GCW_69

stevezie: In fairness to the optimists, while this wasn’t a playoff team it didn’t have to be this bad. No team is going to look good when their top 2 centers are almost never healthy at the same time and one fo their top 2 defenceman has pieces of his leg falling off.

I’ll give you the forwards and it was because of McDavid I thought they had the possibility to break 70 points. But injuries happen to defence all the time. It should be expected and depth built to manage through it. This was a lottery defence without injuries. Injuries were always going to just make a bad situation worse.

GCW_69

RexLibris: Savard’s injury was, at the time, considered more of an unknown because they were still finding their way in dealing with concussions. He could have come back at any time, or never.

Ference’s is more of a blood-and-guts injury where you can see it progress. But the team did a pretty good job of mothballing him for most of this year before the hip injury even came up, so I won’t underestimate their ability to do the same next year, if it comes to that.

That’s simply not true. ” On August 31, 2011, it was announced that Savard had been shut down for the 2011–12 season by GM Peter Chiarelli.[12] Chiarelli was quoted as saying “Based on what I see, what I hear, what I read, and what I’m told, it’s very unlikely Marc will play again”.[13] Wikipedia.

stevezie

GCW_69: Another optimist.

In fairness to the optimists, while this wasn’t a playoff team it didn’t have to be this bad. No team is going to look good when their top 2 centers are almost never healthy at the same time and one fo their top 2 defenceman has pieces of his leg falling off.

GCW_69

frjohnk: How do the other D look if Klefbom pushes them all down a spot?

Still a fucking disaster. Without any doubt. None whatsoever.

stevezie

Johnny skid,

He mentioned Schultz by name (when prompted) but said on all three goals there were culprits. On the first it was blown coverage (Yak, Schultz), on the second a guy failed to clear when he had time (Fayne), the third was a neutral zone giveaway (Schultz), and there was a lot of quit on the empty net goal (Drai, but really there was a lot of blame to go around on this one.)

I don’t think any of that is in dispute. As to may “maybes”:

You could argue that Sekera’s coverage wasn’t great on the first goal, and Talbot wasn’t great on the first two.

He then went on to praise Davidson and Oesterle, saying at least they made msitakes of aggression, and were making things happen. To me this is a criticism of guys who make nothing happen, which to me is Korpse and Letestu.

But I’ll grant I might be reading too much into the “maybes”.

Really at least ten guys had bad games. The only person he was openly looking forward to benching was Schultz, but he described specific plays where Fayne and Yak made mistakes too.

GCW_69

Frank the dog: Apparently I had 74.

Another optimist. Sometimes it’s tough being an optimist and following this team.

Johnny skid

stevezie: He admitted Schultz was the #1 culprit, but if you listen to his commentary on the goals it’s obvious he ain’t thrilled with Fayne, Drai, Yak, Talbot, possibly Korpse, Letestu and Sekera. A lot of bad games to go around but those seven stood out. At least a bad game was a special event for a couple of them.

or is that your list? maybe i missed something in tmac’s comments.

Sugar Reijo

Dr. Taboggan:
It is always amazing to me how bad the Oilers are at passing. Do the Oilers ever complete more than one pass in a row?

Once that I remember.

Of course no sooner had they than I woke up shocked, drenched in tipped over Jamesons, and topped with sprinkled Tostitos.

stevezie

RedArmy,

I feel a little bad he is getting crapped on, because he is a good 4C. We thought one of him or Lander could handle 3C, and it is clear neither can. Hendrix ain’t a good center, either.

If Korpse is still here after the deadline I expect he’ll rotate being scratched with Kassian. Hendricks>Korpse on the winger, JJ/Lander/Letsestu>Hendricks at center.

Of course, we are trading Purcell so maybe there’s more room than I think.

McSorley33

Ca$h-McMoney!,

I had that Turn North debate in here with someone 9 weeks ago.

Heck take a look at the point predictions for this year.

NN, Ference, Gryba, Jultz and Fayne…..

Sugar Reijo

My take….

We have some big holes to fill on the D with McCoil, Grymes and Jefferson going south.

But don’t underestimate what a healthy John White will mean to the offence. Not only in terms of production but the health of Mike Reilly. The fewer times he has to force an extra second standing in the pocket on second and long the better.

stevezie

I don’t remember a press conference quite like Tmac’s. I’ve heard coaches rip a team, but not say, “I’m playing guys to showcase them. After the trade deadline this roster is going to look different, one way or the other. Some players are hopeless and can’t be coached.”

Unique.

He admitted Schultz was the #1 culprit, but if you listen to his commentary on the goals it’s obvious he ain’t thrilled with Fayne, Drai, Yak, Talbot, possibly Korpse, Letestu and Sekera. A lot of bad games to go around but those seven stood out. At least a bad game was a special event for a couple of them.

Yak made some plays but needs to be on a good line or he will drag his guys down and not create on his own. Not sure he can justify his need of a good line but I betcha we’re about to find out.

I thought Poo had a good game. McD and Eberle too.

Woodguy

Ca$h-McMoney!:
Hey guys, remember that time 6 years ago when we all felt like this thing was turning North?

At no time did anyone think the Oilers were turning north while Tambellini was in charge.

Maybe Ducey, but that’s it.

magneto

Kiltymcbagpipes,

In Kessel’s 9 years he has 2 PPG seasons (11-12, 13-14)
In Hall’s 5 years he has 2 PPG seasons (12-13, 13-14) and has more points than Kessel this year, although under a PPG

Ca$h-McMoney!

Hey guys, remember that time 6 years ago when we all felt like this thing was turning North?

magneto

Kiltymcbagpipes,

I don’t know if anyone has responded to this but Hall through his first 5 years has been way better than Kessel through his first 5 years in the NHL.
Hall- 263pts 299gms
Kessel- 245pts 374gms

Gret99zky

If McDavid and his reps can find a way out after his ELC, I bet they do.

McDavid is too smart and talented to go the way of the Oilers.

League will probably help him out as well. Maybe change the rules like they did with the draft.

RedArmy

Who in managment pushed for Letestu?

I don’t mind the player but his skill set doesn’t mesh with Chai’s verbal.

Frank the dog

GCW_69: 75 was my prediction. They are now on pace for 66.One of these days I am going to turn pessimistic about this team.

Apparently I had 74.

GCW_69

hunter1909: Hunter1909 Official Oilers 2016 Death March Leaderboard for 24.2.16
Oilers headed for a 67 point season:

The player listed predicted a 69 point finish(closest to 67 pt. final tally):

knighttown

When I started posting this Oilers 2016 Death March update in January, Oilers were threatening a 75 point season.Good times.

75 was my prediction. They are now on pace for 66. One of these days I am going to turn pessimistic about this team.

spoiler

Gerta Rauss: I have to believe that LT was funnin’ us

Him not having seen The Last Waltz is unpossible

I think so too. I’m near certain he’s mentioned it before.

Edit: Google agrees. LT, you bugger! lol…

hunter1909

Gret99zky: I guessed 84pts in the Hunter1909 pool of death.

Pool of Death. Great concept.

Gret99zky: Way off. Boy do I feel like the fucking asshole.

Really? I picked them for 106(a mistake, since I intended to give them the same amount of points than the 1971 Canadiens, but got that wrong by about 10 points too many.

What kind of fool compares these losers to the 1971 Canadiens?

hunter1909

Kitchener: Paging Hunter1909. What percentage of fine folks are out of the running on this season’s point total pool? (https://lowetide.ca/2015/10/05/manic-monday/)
Assuming a maximum of 50 points + 21 games left = 92 points, I’m guessing that a few summer bulls are starting to fall out of mathematical contention.

Hunter1909 Official Oilers 2016 Death March Leaderboard for 24.2.16
Oilers headed for a 67 point season:

The player listed predicted a 69 point finish(closest to 67 pt. final tally):

knighttown

When I started posting this Oilers 2016 Death March update in January, Oilers were threatening a 75 point season. Good times.

blainer

Was finally impressed that the coach is reacting to the fact that Shultz is not an NHL D.

FINALLY !!

He needs to be gone NOW ..waive him tomorrow if there are no takers..

It sounds like Chia and Tmc are also finally seeing that there has to be changes.

They also NEED to be careful when making the inevitable trades that they do it the right way. Do not get spanked by a rival GM. We now have the currency to obtain the correct mix.

We are where we are now so lets get Laine. He is Jagar 2.0

What a mix with CMD and Poo that guy will be.

Trade Ebs and or Nuge and possibly Nurse and pull off the miracle of signing Stamkos up front.

I am hoping for a D of

Klef Hamonic

Sekera Shattenkirk

Davidson Reinhart/ Gryba

Just Love Nurse Ebs and Nuge but we have to get that D somehow.

Stamkos replaces Nuge in a big way. Wishful thinking I know but he hasn’t signed yet..

RJ2016

LadiesloveSmid:
Nostradumbass,

Schneider= no Draisaitl/Nurse/McDavid

Not necessarily. If he was an Oiler he would have had some freak injury for an extended period and everyone would be damning MacT for giving up a ton for an injury-prone goalie.

Professor Q

rickithebear:
Hall-Drai #1 tough comp EVPPG forward pair in Game. Tambo-Mact
Mcdcvid-Eberle 3rd comp Offensive line. MacT-Tambo
RNH Premier top end PvP center Tambo

Klefbom-XXX Tambo
davidson-XXX Tambo

Talbot MacT
Brossoit MacT

Wouldn’t Eberle be Lowe?

rickithebear

Even:
Ott 2 G on 5 High chance shots
EDM 1G on 11 HCS

PP:
Ott 1 G on 2 MCS and 1 HCS
EDM 0G on 1 LCS, 4 MCS, 1 HCS

Defence wins championships.
Not forwards playong defence.

rickithebear

Hall-Drai #1 tough comp EVPPG forward pair in Game. Tambo-Mact
Mcdcvid-Eberle 3rd comp Offensive line. MacT-Tambo
RNH Premier top end PvP center Tambo

Klefbom-XXX Tambo
davidson-XXX Tambo

Talbot MacT
Brossoit MacT

rickithebear

Doughty post game tonight:

“That is our mo!
We do not score goals.
But Defence wins Championships.
Do not mind scoring less.”

LadiesloveSmid

seeing Klefbom with a quality top 2 D is on my bucket list, in an oilers jersey that is

SwedishPoster

In the shadow of Schultz there were a couple of other terrible performances. Sekera was awful, sure part of it is on his partner but he has to own it himself as well, there was one shift where he gave away the puck or lost battles four or five times. Hendricks as a center is completely pointless, if they’re not playing him at wing put him in the pressbox, if the faith In Lander is gone give Jujhar a shot at center. Korpikoski is a plain bad pick up by Chia. I’m getting tired of Letestu as well, his PKing is below par, overall I don’t think he’s that good defensively for being a bottom six center, he chips in a bit more offense than your average fourth liner but I’d rather have a solid defensive player especially on the Oilers wherepretty much the only forward who’s actually good defensively is Hendricks and he’s played out of position. Purcell gave zero effort tonight. The rest of the top six had flashes mixed in with some awful D. Hall had a couple of real garbage plays that screamed frustration, the “oh whatever” shot with the goalie pulled was one. Yak missed coverage badly on the first, he has to stop puckwatching in the D zone, and his first period wasn’t very good but he bounced back in the last two and were one of the better players. Talbot seems like he could use a game or two on the sidelines, clearly is losing his spirit behind this team.

These last 10 or so games have discouraging as hell. Why can’t they even show up? And I include McLellan in this, his coaching has been lazy and uninspired as well just trotting along with the same basic structure, the same lines and pairings, the same players getting the nod at key moments despite garbage results. I’m in no way blaming coaching for thisit just feels like McLellan has thrown in the towel as well, doesn’t really care how angry he is during media avails if the on ice performance looks the same without the coach really doing anything. This could ofc be a way to showcase players but man just make the trades and get it over with. This is just a sad state of affairs.

LadiesloveSmid

Nostradumbass,

Schneider= no Draisaitl/Nurse/McDavid

Gret99zky

HeatTreaterJoe: You may have missed where I wrote “If Klefbom can make a Klefbom/Schultz pairing useful”?

Schultz is terrible. He has had a long audition and it’s over.

Klefbom has better things to do than shine that turd.

LadiesloveSmid

AsiaOil,

Ya I’m at the point where maybe you trade Eberle in a deal for Hamonic and throw some money and term at Loui Eriksson. I can’t stand these wingers that don’t understand proper coverage. Yak can either go or be saddled to McDavid on a soft minutes scoring line.

AsiaOil

Honestly this was the 2nd game in a row where Justin Shultz loses it pretty much on his own with an assist from Jordan Eberle who seems to be enjoying his role as Sam Gagner in the movie “also seen in picture after opposition goal”. Let’s just stop the madness and trade Shultz for anything if there is indeed a buyer out there. Otherwise waive him and send him home. Shultz, Ference, Nikitin, Fayne – that $15.5 million of utter crap MacT signed and said he was still pretty happy with last spring – pisses me off he still gets to hang around after that.

TMac is pissed off and he’s right to be – this team needs heart surgery – Hall maybe survives the purge of the old core – but Shultz and Ebs can move on – RNH I’m on the fence with as he’s a center and Yak was never part of that group but he’s a mess. It’s McDavid’s and Hall’s team if Hall can share – if not – then you move him as well. Big changes coming or make you reservation for the same thing next year.

719

G Money:
Kitchener,

Reminder: Oesterle/Davidson gave up ONE EV SHOT when on the ice tonight.Check the rink maps I posted above.That’s the game right there.

Lost in everything today, Oesterle’s performance. I thought he had a really strong performance and made some nice plays.

HT Joe

Gret99zky: Yeah, and maybe the Oilers can then bring back Eric Belanger for cheap Cheap CHEAP and that would be great too.

Christ.

You may have missed where I wrote “If Klefbom can make a Klefbom/Schultz pairing useful”?

Younger Oil

Just listening to McLellan’s presser.

Great honesty.

Tanks the value of anyone they are trying to trade (though their play already does that).

719

A team with Hall, Ebs, Drai, Yakupov, Pou and McDavid cannot outscore their mistakes, and has trouble in general scoring.

I am not being sarcastic, but I would have never guessed. That is on paper such a great scoring line up, yet we have trouble scoring on so many nights and can’t outscore the mistakes.

Moose

OilClog:

The presser was amazing atleast there’s something to watch for the rest of this whatever it is.

The presser was just fantastic. Those were the comments of a coach who has his GM’s ear and is on the same page in terms of player evaluation. It’s no coincidence that happened the same day as Chia basically telegraphed dropping a couple bombs on the roster over the next three months.

Nostradumbass

I think if I had to pick the biggest error among many of the MacT era it was him refusing to pay the price for Cory Schneider

I’m not sure this team ever gets lift without first seriously addressing the average goal-tending we’ve had for a decade

Gret99zky

Kitchener,

So you’re saying be patient. Maybe next year? The future is bright?

Here are the reasons we will be out of the playoffs by Christmas next season:

1) injuries.
2) playing through injuries.
3) lack of depth.
4) reffing.
5) luck.

Thank God the dark days are over though.

OilClog

Jultz won’t be here next week let alone next season.

Nor will Fayne, coach was clear what he thought about the Fayne off the glass.

Sign Davidson

The presser was amazing atleast there’s something to watch for the rest of this whatever it is.

Gret99zky

HeatTreaterJoe: If Klefbom can make a Klefbom/Schultz pairing useful, and the Oilers then sign Schultz for cheap Cheap CHEAP, there are worse problems to have.Then Chia would only have to bring in 1 top pairing RD (instead of a top pairing RD AND a 2nd pairing RD).

Yeah, and maybe the Oilers can then bring back Eric Belanger for cheap Cheap CHEAP and that would be great too.

Christ.