G78 2015-16: OILERS AT KINGS

by Lowetide

Connor McDavid is averaging about two insane plays a game these days, we are still in awe of him because there is no historical reference for his speed—ask NHL defensemen. Some day, maybe next year, we will come to expect that burst and the defensive fracture that follows. For now, it’s Saturday in hockey country and our hero is the fastest man in the west.

TABERNAC SATURDAY, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2014: 4-5-1
  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0
  • Oilers in November 2014: 2-9-3
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2
  • Oilers in December 2014: 2-8-4
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1
  • Oilers in January 2015: 5-7-1
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2
  • Oilers in February 2015: 5-6-1
  • Oilers in February 2016: 4-8-2
  • Oilers in March 2015: 5-6-3
  • Oilers in March 2016: 7-6-0
  • Oilers after 77 in 2014-15: 23-41-13, 59 points (-72 GD)
  • Oilers after 77 in 2015-16: 30-40-7, 67 points (-37 GD)

Oilers grabbed one in San Jose and are now 1-1-0 for the week. You would be wise to assume an L this evening, just as Edmonton did a year ago in G78 (an 8-2 loss to the Kings). Anton Lander had five shots, Matt Fraser four on Golden Seals night in California.

DEFENSE, 2015-16

OILERS DEFENSE OVER SEASON

  • Late season things to watch include Andrej Sekera and Mark Fayne getting closer to 50 percent in possession; Jordan Oesterle thriving on 21 minutes a night; Darnell Nurse & Griffin Reinhart in a race for best stats between the two (I think Reinhart may win this); will we see a Nikita ‘is it cold ?’ Nikitin appearance for old times sake? I still don’t blame the guy, and bet he has been good for Nail. Any who, it ain’t much to look forward to, ladies.
  • If the Oilers win the possession battle tonight, I will plant potatoes in my living room.
  • How many of these defensemen, healthy or injured, could we project onto a Stanley Cup contender? As part of a top 6D, I would suggest Sekera in a second pairing role and a healthy Oscar Klefbom on the third pair. Is that fair? I think those two are the foundation for this defense, but there is much work to do.
  • How many Oilers defensemen—when healthy—would play ahead of Calgary’s top six D?
  • Seeing a lot of ‘trade Klefbom’ chatter but it makes no sense. If his injury is going to alter his career, then the trade value has been dashed. If he is healthy, then it is absolutely certain he is the best and most developed of the young blue. Seems ludicrous to do anything but wait until fall and see how things are at that time. Lighting a candle is a far more reasonable approach.
  • I was looking at possible additions and checked out Zdeno Chara. His possession number has fallen from 53 to 48 percent season over season. A lot of that is the quality of partner, but this is not the time to be trading for the big man.
  • Jason Demers should be a target for the Oilers. Plays over 21 minutes a night, over 50 percent in possession, and Todd McLellan used him more on the power play in San Jose.
  • If the season starts Klefbom—Hamonic, Sekera—Demers, Nurse—Davidson, I would consider that a playoff defense—if the Oilers don’t stay stubborn on Nurse. He is 46 percent in possession this year—that is No. 179 among 204 defensemen who have played over 400 minutes in the NHL this season. People are ripping Darnell, but it was a mistake keeping him up after he began to struggle. If he had been sent back after (about) game 20, he might be back with more confidence and authority. I think that is what we are seeing with Griffin Reinhart at this time.

 

CENTERS, 2015-16

OILERS CENTERS OVER SEASON1

  • Todd McLellan on the Nuge: “If Nuge could have played against San Jose, I’d have had him at centre with Leon again, just like what we did in Arizona. I thought it was a pretty effective line for the first 30 minutes there until he got hurt. I don’t know if we’ll get to see that option again.” Source
  • I have come to grips with trading the Nuge, but will be somewhat exasperated with Peter Chiarelli if he moves the center. Why can’t he see his Krecji? Does McDavid’s presence make a Krecji unecessary? I don’t believe that, nor do I believe Leon’s emergence makes RNH superfluous. What is it?
  • My only answer is that PC has someone in mind. A center who can play 2C or 3C with equal aplomb, and brings something Nuge does not. What would that be? Nuge makes $6M, is not 6.04, 225 and (this season) ranks No. 187 (among 322 forwards with 500 or more minutes) in 5×5 scoring. I am online with much of the GMs thinking (Talbot, Sekera, others) but this has me scratching my head. I am genuinely at a loss for why Nugent-Hopkins is in play.

WINGERS, 2015-16

OILERS LW OVER SEASON

OILERS RW OVER SEASON

  • I am also surprised at the number of people who want to see the forwards shuffled. I understand the idea of trading someone to help on defense, but if you can solve the blue without buggering up the Fs, why not keep them?
  • I count Taylor Hall, Benoit Pouliot, Patrick Maroon, Connor McDavid, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Leon Draisaitl, Jordan Eberle and Nail Yakupov among my keepers. That’s eight men. Craig MacTavish went to war with half this talent when he was coaching, and that’s a fact. The difference? More veterans. MORE veterans.

slepy williams

CONDORS ROOKIE OF THE YEAR, 2015-16

I wrote a piece over at ON last night, looking for input on the Condors ROY. Also interesting? Of the kids who have been rookies over the last two years, who had the best rookie year? It is interesting to line them up by position.

AHL ROOKIE GOALIES

  1. Laurent Brossoit 49GP, 2.65 .916 (14-15)
  2. Eetu Laurikainen 13GP, 3.32 .904 (15-16)

Little doubt who is the superior rookie here, although Laurikainen didn’t play as much and that can impact things. I don’t think anyone thinks the Oilers regard the Finn as highly as Brossoit, and of course we should acknowledge that both of them could easily end up outside the NHL.

AHL ROOKIE DEFENSEMEN

  1. D-F Joey Laleggia 53gp, 7-17-24 .453 (15-16)
  2. D Jordan Oesterle, 61GP, 7-16-23 .377 (14-15)
  3. D Dillon Simpson, 66GP, 2-14-16 .242 (14-15)

Laleggia ends up being a superior overall offensive player, but we have to factor in the fact that he played forward as well. At even strength, Laleggia (.321) is ahead of the Oesterle of one a year ago (.277)—but that time at forward skews the numbers. We should allow for the possibility that Laleggia might be a more substantial offensive player, though.

AHL ROOKIE FORWARDS

  1. R Iiro Pakarinen 39GP, 17-11-28 .718 (14-15)
  2. C Bogdan Yakimov, 57GP, 12-16-28 .491 (14-15)
  3. L Joshua Winquist, 41GP, 8-10-18 .439 (14-15)
  4. W Anton Slepyshev 39gp, 10-7-17 .436 (15-16)
  5. C Kyle Platzer 40gp, 5-10-15 .375 (15-16)
  6. C Marco Roy, 34gp, 6-5-11 .324 (15-16)
  7. L Kellen Jones, 44GP, 5-9-14 .318 (14-15)
  8. C-R Josh Currie 45gp, 6-8-14 .311 (15-16)
  9. C Connor Jones 36GP, 4-4-8 .222 (14-15)
  10. C Jujhar Khaira 51GP, 4-6-10 .196 (14-15)
  11. L Braden Christoffer 30GP, 1-3-4 .133 (15-16)
  12. L Mitch Moroz 61GP, 5-3-8 .131 (14-15)

Remember, the forwards produced in the AHL are not the impact scorers, they are the Cleary’s, the Chimera’s and the Pisani’s. Pisani as an AHL rookie posted .481 points-per-game at age 23—and he played in the minors for over 170 games. There is still time for all of the forwards here, but as our annual look at the AHL shows, you better spike like Khaira in year two if you plan on having an NHL career.

https://twitter.com/JonathanWillis/status/713539557199847424

The trade Taylor Hall rumors have died down for now, Jon’s numbers should put those to bed for the rest of 2016. Here’s the thing: There are players you would trade Taylor Hall for, but they, like Hall, are largely unavailable. Look, the Oilers dealt for Chris Pronger a decade ago (three-for-one!) and I would love to see it again. Problem is, you need a partner, and NHL teams hold on to their impact defensemen for dear life. Why? Fear of becoming the Edmonton Oilers.

Who would I trade Hall for? Well, Erik Karlsson for sure, and most of the guys playing over 26 minutes a night on this list. Guess what? They aren’t available. If Hall is available, and PC is talking about a Tyler Seguin style reverse three-for-one, then we are talking about the enemy within. Again.

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Woodguy

RE: Jon’s tweet about Hall.

Very true.

When I saw it I showed him a link to a Taylor Hall photoshop I did March 10, and Jon’ replied:

‏@JonathanWillis
Jonathan Willis Retweeted Woodguy

That’s probably an even better way to put it.

Here’s a link to the photoshop: https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/707957118008070145

SumOil

I don’t think we should touch the forwards at all. RNH Mcdavid and Drai give is great centers to play with Hall,Eberle, pouliot, Maroon, Yak and Kassian. That’s not just a playoff top 9 but quite possibly pennant top 9. You need to upgrade the dedense at all cost. One will cost dollars (demers) and someone like Hamonic will cost some assets. Maybe reade our pick for NYI pick and Hamonic? With Talbot being as good as he has been since Christmas we are going to be a scary team.

PC needs to be a bit patient about trading actual Nhl players before actually upgrading the deficiencies.

SumOil

If our PP was better our top 3 scorers would have been at least 8-10 points further ahead than they are. PP has been abysmal and people looking at points alone will come to wrong conclusions

Woodguy

If the Oilers win the possession battle tonight, I will plant potatoes in my living room.

Score adjusted or raw corsi?

If the Kings take a quick lead there could be lots of score effects and I really want to hold you accountable to this.

Also,

How many of these defensemen, healthy or injured, could we project onto a Stanley Cup contender? As part of a top 6D, I would suggest Sekera in a second pairing role and a healthy Oscar Klefbom on the third pair. Is that fair? I think those two are the foundation for this defense, but there is much work to do.

Klef in a 3rd pair role is off the mark.

His career results have him firmly in the upper tier of 1st pairing Dmen. We just don’t get to see him often enough.

He’s better than Sekera and Klef 1st, Sekera 2nd could win The Cup if other good Dmen were present.

Also,

How many Oilers defensemen—when healthy—would play ahead of Calgary’s top six D?

Brodie —- Klef ——- Gio ——- Sekera —– Hamilton ——– Davidson ——— rest aren’t work talking about at this point, including Wideman.

Edit: I suppose you’d need to rank Wideman and Fayne here, but I honestly don’t know who I’d rank ahead because they rank fairly low whenever I look at Dmen stuff.

Chachi

Woodguy:
RE: Jon’s tweet about Hall.

Very true.

When I saw it I showed him a link to a Taylor Hall photoshop I did March 10, and Jon’ replied:

‏@JonathanWillis
Jonathan Willis Retweeted Woodguy


That’s probably an even better way to put it.

Here’s a link to the photoshop: https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/707957118008070145

So, the problem with the Oilers might be the quality of the players on the ice when Taylor Hall isn’t on the ice? Who knew!?

Woodguy

Over the last 4 years:

Gio w/ Brodie:

CF% 51.5%
GF% 54.3%

Gio w/o Brodie:

CF% 47.7%
GF% 42.1%

Brodie w/o Gio

CF% 46.3%
GF% 44.5%

Gio’s 2 most common partners other than Brodie over that period: Wideman – Boumeester

Brodie’s 2 most common partners other than Gio over that period: Russel – Wideman

Gio – Wideman over 4 years:

CF% 48.4%
GF% 38.6%

Brodie – Wideman over 4 years:

CF% 48.9%
GF% 42.9%

kinger_OIL

– Great post LT! LT says: If the season starts Klefbom—Hamonic, Sekera—Demers, Nurse—Davidson, I would consider that a playoff defense.

– Klef is too high. At his best, he might develop towards there, but he has only 100 games, and playing a complete season is a thing that is important to have success, its a requirement to be a top D. We hope that he gets there, but untill he does, he needs to be projected lower.

– Please not Nurse-Davidson, with less than 100 games as a pair. 1 with a vet: even Fayne

– Sekera-Demers-Hamonic: that is 3 D you know what you have. Your other 3D = show me D. Too much hope. Ideally Klef stays healthy, and you rely on one of Davidson-Nurse-Griff to earn a spot

Woodguy

Lowetide:
WG: Nah. A Stanley Cup contender doesn’t put Klefbom there. His inexperience keeps him down the depth chart. He could get there, but we are talking about a player with 107 NHL games and he is not an impact player. Fine start, let’s hope, but that isn’t a realistic statement imo at this time.

I didn’t realize that you were talking about “today”

I still have Klef over Sekera

Woodguy

WheatnOil with a great post on Oiler Dmen and how they do against zone entry attempts.

A must read:
http://www.theoilersrig.com/2016/03/tracking-defensive-zone-entries-andrej-grey/

Woodguy

Lowetide,

and he is not an impact player.

Klef isn’t an impact player?

What leads you to this conclusion?

Jethro Tull

Woodguy: If the Oilers win the possession battle tonight, I will plant potatoes in my living room.
Score adjusted or raw corsi?

U-Pick!

kinger_OIL

Lowetide,

– Saw that! Your proposed D could be a playoff team, I just hope they do more, so we do not have to hope for all: 1) Klef stays healthy, 2) Davidson recovers and returns to the level he did for a short bit, 3) Nurse learns a lot, and comes back to be a bottom-6 D, even though he was not this year.

– They all could come true: but I hope we dont have to hope!

dustrock

LT or anyone – can you post a split of Reinhart stats from first call-up/season start and his 2nd appearance? Want to see if there’s much difference.

Jethro Tull

Woodguy:
Lowetide,

and he is not an impact player.

Klef isn’t an impact player?

What leads you to this conclusion?

Don’t want to speak for LT, but I took it to mean that Klef’s very good, but he’s not Karlsson or Doughty or Burns.

I’m making the assumption that ‘impact’ means the ability to push the river like Hall or make insane plays like McDavid.

This could bite me in the ass…

Woodguy

Norman Greenbaum: U-Pick!

I don’t think LT’s living room is big enough become a potato u-pick farm.

I could be wrong, he does live in St. Albert.

Marc

I’ve watched all of Connor McDavid’s games as an Oiler so far. Now that the technology exists to do so, I don’t intend to ever miss one.

Watching him, it’s natural to try and find some kind of comparator, some player from the past that he looks like, or looks like he eventually could be. For me at least though, it’s been a futile exercise. My hockey memories only go back to the early ’80s, but I’ve honestly never seen anything like him before. Bure was fast, but he didn’t have near the vision that McDavid has a top speed. Gretzky’s vision was unparalleled, but he wasn’t close to as fast as McDavid is.

Jumping briefly to another topic, Johan Cruijff died a couple of days ago. He was the best soccer player that Holland, a country that has had a steady stream of geniuses, ever produced. Most consider him the best European soccer player of all time and he’s one of four or five players with a legitimate claim to the title of ‘Best Ever’.

Here’s a compilation of Cruijff dribbling the ball: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU-k-Ots3iY

It’s well worth watching.

And seeing Cruijff make defenders look silly again and again and again, I was struck by the thought that he’s actually the best comparator for McDavid that I’ve seen so far.

GB&Q

If the Oilers win the possession battle tonight, I will plant potatoes in my living room.

Russet, or Yukon Gold?!

Jethro Tull

GB&Q:
If the Oilers win the possession battle tonight, I will plant potatoes in my living room.

Russet, or Yukon Gold?!

Jersey Royals.

Soup Fascist

Norman Greenbaum: Jersey Royals.

Wasn’t Leaping Lou their GM in the old IHL?

RexLibris

Woodguy: Brodie —- Klef ——- Gio ——- Sekera —– Hamilton ——– Davidson ——— rest aren’t work talking about at this point, including Wideman.

Bang on.

Here’s what I wrote about Klefbom in my FN pre-season piece about the Oilers, trying to introduce the player to a Flames’ readership:

What about that Klefbom kid? This will be his first full NHL season, barring injury, and he looks like a solid top-four defender with top-two potential. Remember when Brodie started and he’d just skate the puck up the ice like it was the easiest thing in the world before making a tape-to-tape pass with a forward in good position? Klefbom shows that same skill set. He is calm, skilled, and shows excellent instincts with and without the puck.

http://flamesnation.ca/2015/10/1/a-balanced-look-at-the-oilers

Brodie is arguably one of the ten best defensemen in the Western Conference, maybe top ten in the league depending on how you look at it. And Klefbom shows some of he same potential, albeit in a different talent package.

JD_Wry

Woodguy: Brodie —- Klef ——- Gio ——- Sekera —– Hamilton ——– Davidson

My word, would an Alberta all-star team look good.

RexLibris

Lowetide: Well, I could be wrong on this, math is not my forte and I am vague on what constitutes a quality sample size. Is 30 games enough to project Klefbom into impact status? If so, giddyup!

We say a player has covered his draft bet if he gets between 100 and 200 NHL games (contested, but I prefer the 200 game threshold), at the same time you’ve used the 250 NHL game mark for defensemen turning the corner and either making it or not, so my preference on having enough data to conclusively say that a defenseman either is or is not an impact player would probably be somewhere between 250 and 300 NHL games.

Klefbom has shown he could be that kind of player, but his health has undermined that (no fault of his own). He needs to come back next season (I’m going to assume he is done for the year) and put together at least 72 games returning to his form from this season and building off of it.

Lowetide: Well, I could be wrong on this, math is not my forte and I am vague on what constitutes a quality sample size. Is 30 games enough to project Klefbom into impact status? If so, giddyup!

Agreed. For 30 games Draisaitl looked like he was all-world. He’s still good, but 30 games, or even 40 games doesn’t tell us it’s sustainable. I’d like to see players (with certain exceptions) put together at least 200 games for a sample size.

Obviously, McDavid shows a special level of talent for us to believe he can keep that up even without seeing him for that long.

frjohnk

I think Nurse has turned the corner in the last two months. ( this is all 5 on 5)

High Danger Scoring Chance +-
First 41 games it was -61.
In the last 2 months ( 23 games) it has been = -6

Scoring Chances
First 41 games it was -53.
In the last 2 months ( 23 games) it has been +6

While not showing in the boxcars, his offense has taken a step.
In the first 41 games, he created 5 high danger chances for
In the last 23 games, he created 10 high danger chances for

In the first 41 games, he created 34 scoring chances for
In the last 38 games, he created 38 scoring chances for

They have cut back on his time on ice.
He has averaged 15.9 minutes a game in the last 23 games
He averaged 18.1 minutes a game in the first 41 games.

His main D partners in the beginning of the year were Sekera and Schultz and Nurse played mostly top 4 minutes. In the last two months, his two main partners have been Clendenning and Gryba playing mostly 3rd pairing.

Nothing says Oilers than throwing a 21 year old old 10 game rookie into the top 4.
Glad they pulled back on the reins.

I don’t know if he should be in the AHL next year, as I don’t know what kind of summer he will have
( I have a good feeling that he will knock it out of the park with summer training) and I don’t know what kind of summer Oilers management will have in regards to getting Dmen.

But I will say that Nurse has had a turn towards North.

Woodguy

Lowetide: Well, I could be wrong on this, math is not my forte and I am vague on what constitutes a quality sample size. Is 30 games enough to project Klefbom into impact status? If so, giddyup!

Your concern about sample size is justified, but the returns are so good they cannot be ignored imo.

I’m using the last two seasons of data as Klef has been a 1st pairing D for vast majority of that time (using TOI QC, which isn’t perfect, but the best we have)

Klef has managed to post a positive WOWY CF% with almost every single player.

This alone makes you nod you head and say “he’s good”, but wait! There’s more!

As I’ve been grinding through lots of Dmen data I’m finding that many good 1st pairing Dmen do not have positive WOWY

Why?

My theory is QC. When playing with a top pair Dman you generally play against better QC and therefore your results suffer.

So not only does Klef improves most everyone’s CF, he does it against the better players.

That’s not very common.

Also, he’s done that with Justin Schultz as his partner for 55% of those 5v5 minutes. Another feather in his cap.

Also,

Its much easier for a Dman to post positive WOWY on poor teams.

When the players are with below average Dmen when not with the Dman you’re examining then you’d expect a positive WOWY.

This is true in Klef’s case so we cannot take the results as the whole truth just yet, but the early returns put him in the upper echelon imo.

Also,

In my Dman thing he rates out much higher than Sekera (who rates right next to Petry and Hamonic)

That that fwiw as my Dman thing is flawed, but still has lots of useful info.

kinger_OIL

RexLibris,

You say: but his health has undermined that (no fault of his own)

– Does not matter where fault lies, he gets injured. Play 70+ games in a row and report back Klef

Madtown Oil

I agree with LT. You hold on to RNH. But, I strongly disagree with trading this years number one–as some suggest.

To be clear, I’ve been as frustrated with this team losing as much as anyone.,,,but fixing the mess Tamb et al left behind requires time.

Building a winning team is about draft and develop and smart asset management. I’m a big fan of the Packers. They are a great model of this. They manage assets and draft and develop. They play players in positions to succeed. But, reaching this model took time.

If you could win by trading draft choices and signing free agents everyone would be doing it.

Woodguy

frjohnk,

What’s the second metric you meausred?

It’s not stated.

Professor Q

Dave Hodge at it again.

The NHL is giving incentive to ‘tank’ (and not changing rules to spite Edmonton… Oh no, never that) and Edmonton is absolutely ‘tanking’ and not plagued by injuries, but poor ol’ Tampa Bay is so injury-ridden now that Stralman is injured.

G Money

If the defense is fully healthy i.e add back a healthy Klef (fingers crossed for NEXT season), Davidson, and Gryba (yes, he has utility) … where does this defense rank in the league?

I’m going to say bottom 5.

Without them, where does it rank?

I’m going to say 30th, and by a pretty wide margin. In fact, I’m going to go out on a limb and say today’s defense group may be the worst overall group of any team in the last five years. It is definitely bottom 5, and I’d say it is likely 150th out of 150.

Hey! I know! Let’s complain some more about the forwards!

Cassandra

frjohnk,

Didn’t the Oilers get outshot 18-3 when Nurse was on the ice just the other day?

I know it’s only one game but that’s incredible. That kind of stuff doesn’t happen to Oesterle.

jonrmcleod

“If the Oilers win the possession battle tonight, I will plant potatoes in my living room.”

If it happens, I expect the dirt to be on the living room floor, not in pots.

Cassandra

G Money:
If the defense is fully healthy i.e add back a healthy Klef (fingers crossed for NEXT season), Davidson, and Gryba (yes, he has utility) … where does this defense rank in the league?

I’m going to say bottom 5.

Without them, where does it rank?

I’m going to say 30th, and by a pretty wide margin.In fact, I’m going to go out on a limb and say today’s defense group may be the worst overall group of any team in the last five years.It is definitely bottom 5, and I’d say it is likely 150th out of 150.

Hey!I know!Let’s complain some more about the forwards!

Exactly.

pells

Veterans is the most important word you used in your article today. Everyone has to start coming to terms with possible two of these $6 million guys going. This is not working. We need to bring in impactful veterans through trades or free agency. These are Ladd, Lucic, Shattenkirk, etc. They will all be making big money and they will earn it. Contracts will be coming like Mcdavid, Nurse, Draisitl. You can’t afford all of these guys. Eberle is the odd guy out. If you have to trade Hall or RNH I would prefer to trade Hall. I know you think I’m crazy and I know he is elite but he is only thing that will get us a number 1 D. RNH is a more complete player and Hall is erratic and inconsistent. Sure would also be nice to have GR and Nurse in the AHL next year. Couldn’t agree more about GR improvement and would only assume it would do the same for Darnell. One UFA that I have not heard much about is Yandle. He is sure carrying the play in NY right now

Klima's_Bucket

jonrmcleod: If it happens, I expect the dirt to be on the living room floor, not in pots.

Good thing LT has some good quality flooring, thanks to his good quality friend Woodguy.

frjohnk

Woodguy:
frjohnk,

What’s the second metric you meausred?

It’s not stated.

fixed.

It was scoring chances +-

dustrock

Madtown Oil:
I agree with LT. You hold on to RNH. But, I strongly disagree with trading this years number one–as some suggest.

To be clear, I’ve been as frustrated with this team losing as much as anyone.,,,but fixing the mess Tamb et al left behind requires time.

Building a winning team is about draft and develop and smart asset management. I’m a big fan of the Packers. They are a great model of this. They manage assets and draft and develop. They play players in positions to succeed. But, reaching this model took time.

If you could win by trading draft choices and signing free agents everyone would be doing it.

McDavid ELC. Need to improve immediately or he will be gone when ELC is up. He’s not going to waste his career here.

Woodguy

frjohnk:
I think Nurse has turned the corner in the last two months.( this is all 5 on 5)

High Danger Scoring Chance +-
First 41 games it was -61.
In the last 2 months ( 23 games) it has been = -6

Scoring Chances
First 41 games it was -53.
In the last 2 months ( 23 games) it has been +6

While not showing in the boxcars, his offense has taken a step.
In the first 41 games, he created 5 high danger chances for
In the last 23 games, he created 10 high danger chances for

In the first 41 games, he created 34 scoring chances for
In the last 38 games, he created 38 scoring chances for

They have cut back on his time on ice.
He has averaged 15.9 minutes a game in the last 23 games
He averaged 18.1 minutes a game in the first 41 games.

His main D partners in the beginning of the year were Sekera and Schultz and Nurse played mostly top 4 minutes.In the last two months, his two main partners have been Clendenning and Gryba playing mostly 3rd pairing.

Nothing says Oilers than throwing a 21 year old old 10 game rookie into the top 4.
Glad they pulled back on the reins.

I don’t know if he should be in the AHL next year, as I don’t know what kind of summer he will have( I have a good feeling that he will knock it out of the park with summer training) and I don’t know what kind of summer Oilers management will have in regards to getting Dmen.

But I will say that Nurse has had a turn towards North.

That’s great news!

frjohnk

Caramel Batman:
frjohnk,

Didn’t the Oilers get outshot 18-3 when Nurse was on the ice just the other day?

I know it’s only one game but that’s incredible.That kind of stuff doesn’t happen to Oesterle.

Yeah, only one game. It happens. Most of the those shots were from the perimeter. Not that perimeter shots have no value, but they don’t have the same value as shots from the high danger area. When he was on the ice that game, there were 4 high danger shots against, 3 for. ( 5 on 5)

I’ve been looking at the games since the team separated Nurse and Shultz.

Huge improvement.

Huge.

Professor Q

dustrock,

That is most certainly a fallacious statement.

Bman

Lowetide: Well, I could be wrong on this, math is not my forte and I am vague on what constitutes a quality sample size. Is 30 games enough to project Klefbom into impact status? If so, giddyup!

LTD I think he has to be play a full season without being hurt before I would annoint Him as impact status. McDavid is impact status.

Madtown Oil

G Money,

G Money, and how would you rank the defense currently playing ? Two waiver wires (Fayne, Clend) and three rookies (Nurse, Oesterle, Rein).

frjohnk

RE: potatoes.

A good buddy of mine told me that last winter his brother was renting a house out to a family. Their were some issues with the electrical so buddies brother went to check it out.

One bedroom had a tarp down on the floor and about 8-10 inches of topsoil for most of the bedroom with lights over top.

It was an actual garden ( not electric lettuce!) in the bedroom.

So LT, it can be done.

JD_Wry

dustrock: He’s not going to waste his career here.

Good to know, thanks.

Madtown Oil

Dustrock, CMD ELC was wasted by previous management. Meaning, you can’t fix a major league sports organization in one or two years. All you need to know is that the current defense with three rookies and a waiver wire is an improvement on last years Ference, NNik, and JSch mess.