RE 15-16 ANDREJ SEKERA: TRY

Peter Chiarelli recovered from the Jeff Petry trade by signing Andrej Sekera in free agency. Due to the ongoing tendency to shoot themselves in the foot, Oilers free-agent signings often get marginalized by the fan base. Andrej Sekera is not a player one wisely disregards. He is bona fide. (Try)

ANDREJ SEKERA 14-15

  • 5×5 points per 60: 0.65
  • 5×4 points per 60: 2.73
  • Qual Comp: 3rd toughest faced among regular D (2nd pairing)
  • Qual Team: 5th best available teammates among regular D (third pairing)
  • Corsi for 5×5 %: 54.5
  • Corsi for 5×5 % REL: 7.7
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 100/3.0%
  • Boxcars: 73, 3-20-23

ANDREJ SEKERA 15-16

  • 5×5 points per 60: 0.40 (No. 4 among regular defenders)
  • 5×4 points per 60: 4.24 (No. 1 among regular defenders)
  • Corsi for 5×5 %: 48.8 (No. 5 among regular defenders)
  • Qual Comp: 2nd toughest faced among regular D (top pairing)
  • Qual Team: 2nd best available teammates among regular D (top pairing)
  • Corsi for 5×5 % REL: -1.9
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 155/3.9%
  • Boxcars: 81, 6-24-30

WAR ON ICE PLAYER CHARTS

WAR ON ICE D SLEDGE

This is our first look at the sledgehammer since the end of the season, so a few overall remarks are in order. First, if you look at this table, and know that top left is the severe zone, there should be no arguments over who gets ‘Diamond Mine’ this spring. Second, very few bubbles are crimson and none are red. Finally, Sekera—Fayne. Music!

RE 15-16: 70GP, 5-24-29 .414

ACTUAL 15-16: 81GP, 6-24-30 .370

  1. Did he deliver as expected? Yes. A fine free-agent signing, one of the best of the last 10 years in my opinion. Quality veteran who can move the puck. More please!
  2. Who did he play well with? Mark Fayne was an excellent partner, the two men played tough opposition and sawed them off at 50 percent. He was good with Klefbom, but more effective LH side, which is a trend.
  3. And not well with Nurse? Too much to ask of young Nurse, but Sekera was 50 percent without on a struggling team—and I do think that is reflective of a solid year from the veteran.
  4. What exactly is he? A fine veteran defenseman who is effective moving the puck, by pass or carry. He’s a good defender without the puck, solid positioning and mobile. He’s very good. Has some issues with bigger forwards, but welcome to the club.
  5. Would he benefit from playing with a faster partner who is a better passer? Sure. You could say that about every defender in the NHL. Put it this way: In Edmonton’s projected starting six for opening night this fall, there are three blue I am not worried about at all. Sekera is one of them.
  6. He isn’t big enough. Well, that is a crazy way to look at defense.
  7. Big! Fight! Hmmm. I’ll take ‘two things that don’t contribute to winning, Alex!’ Look, I have always said size and toughness are fine, but you have to be able to play the game. Sekera does battle and he does win pucks, but at at 6.0, 198 he is going to lose some, too. That doesn’t change my opinion of him.
  8. Its because you like to lose! Sure. Fun! Here’s the number you should keep in mind with Sekera: He is 29 years old and has plenty of track left to go. He can pass the puck and help with possession. The Oilers need more Sekera’s and will get them.
  9. Did he set any career highs? His 81 GP are a career high, his 12 power-play assists are also a career best from this player. New personal best in shots on goal and shot attempts, massive spike in blocks (156). He had a fine season by his own standards.
  10. Where should he play on a playoff depth chart? If you look at the graph above, I think it is reasonable to suggest Oscar Klefbom will eventually be No. 1 LHD on this team—I would put him there now. Sekera is No. 2 LHD, moving up when required and also No. 2PP defender. Brandon Davidson would be my choice for No. 3 LHD on the club this fall.
  11. Why in hell does Sekera get ‘Try’? We talk about the song at the end.
  12. Rubbish call. Should have gone to Nuge. You suck!  Is there something on your mind, or are we done?
  13. Sekera hits a lot of shin pads! He sucks too! Shinpad Assassin! He posted 30 points, second highest total of his career. Sekera is not the problem. Your rage should be directed at the previous free-agent signings like Andrew Ference and Nikita Nikitin.
  14. What could make Sekera better? Well, the Oilers have a massive shortage of defensemen and more good ones would help.
  15. No, no. I mean, would it help if he got fewer power-play minutes? Interesting question. Let’s look at his entire deployment from last season. He spent 21:50 a night on the ice, and that was broken down like this: EV 17:53; PP 2:19; PK 1:36. If we compare that to his total work a year ago, he was deployed last season thusly: Los Angeles: Total: 19:12; EV 16:15; PP: 2:08; PK 0:48. Carolina: Total: 22:46; EV 19:02; PP 1:45; PK 1:57.
  16. What does it all mean? Well, he played much less in Los Angeles, a team that enjoyed better depth at the time, and in Carolina he played more than in Edmonton. Not terribly instructive beyond the fact it proves Todd McLellan had fewer options than the Kings.
  17. Is there another way to approach the power-play issue? Well, Sekera was No. 28 among NHL defensemen so there are better options around the league. That said, he was the best option available.
  18. What about Justin Schultz? He went 3.65 on the power play (5×5) and that put him No. 41 league-wide for the season. So we can argue there are better options available, but it is not at all clear that Justin Schultz is one of those better options.
  19. Who is he similar to? Hockey-reference says he is most similar for his career to Braydon Coburn, but for me Jeff Petry is a better fit in terms of style and feel. I am sure others have opinions on this comparable situation.
  20. Will they trade him? No. I think the Oilers will acquire two RH defenders and will probably give up a forward—and maybe a defenseman too in that deal. However, it won’t be a veteran like Sekera, the other team will want a young blue under control.
  21. Did you hear about the Subban deal being discussed today? No. I have been working.
  22. Sweet deal. Subban to Edmonton for Taylor Hall. I think there are two points here. I do believe there is something here in terms of a Subban deal, we talked about it on this very blog on the weekend. This Hall-for-Subban idea is a non-starter in my mind unless they also plan on dealing Max Pacioretty for a center. Hall has enough value to move that trade forward, but why invest in two impact LWs with such a difficult situation at center—and on defense, once Subban is traded. Either way, interesting stuff.
  23. Who would play with Subban? I would run him with Klefbom, but Sekera would also be a solid option. Hell, Brandon Davidson would be a great option with Subban.
  24. Who ran with Chris Pronger? Jason Smith, Jaro Spacek, he played (well) with pretty much anyone but those two especially (this is my memory).
  25. Could this happen? Sure. It takes only one team to decide, and remember Edmonton has a lot of available talent to make this kind of move. I think we will be hearing many rumors of this type over the next while. If St. Louis loses tonight, expect multiple Pietrangelo articles tomorrow. Nature of the beast, until something arrives we can actually talk about in real terms.
  26. Why this song? A big hit for the band, and I do think getting Sekera was a big hit for Edmonton’s build. It is also a song about attraction, I think the player came here to be part of something special and the GM (correctly) identified the right place to Try in free agency.

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  1. AsiaOil says:

    Klef
    Sekera
    Davidson
    Reinhart
    Nurse
    Oesterle
    Musil

    One or two are getting traded – simply no room at the inn at LHD.

  2. Clay says:

    “14. What would make Nikitin better?”

    Either that’s a typo, or you’ve lost me.

    Lol, NVM.

  3. Lowetide says:

    AsiaOil:
    Klef
    Sekera
    Davidson
    Reinhart
    Nurse
    Oesterle
    Musil

    One or two are getting traded – simply no room at the inn at LHD.

    If this Subban thing is real, then Montreal is going to take a young D who is inexpensive and under control. That means Nurse, Davidson or Reinhart to me.

  4. fifthcartel says:

    AsiaOil,

    I’d move anyone after Davidson really.

  5. Clay says:

    Sekera is another very good defender who fans discount and the only thing wrong is he’s being forced too high up in the batting order.

    The size issue is a non-starter with me, too. He’s comparable in size to Brodie and Giordano down the road – no one complains about them being too small.

  6. DBO says:

    Lowetide,

    3 for 1???!!!!???? Say it with me…. 3 for 1!

    Could it happen. The dreamed about 3 for 1, cashing young talent for top end talent, and adding another high end DMan for the balance we talk about so hopefully.

    Will we actually see ths fabled “Balance Photo” LT has been teasing us with for years!!????????

  7. DBO says:

    Is this a playoff Defense?

    Klefbom-Subban
    Sekera-Demers
    Davidson-Fayne
    Gryba (Reinhart in minors to start)

    the 1st, Nuge, Nurse for Subban, Eller and their 1st? Does this work? Not enough? too much?

  8. dustrock says:

    LT you don’t think Montreal would prefer RNH and say Klefbom? Part of it is selling to the fanbase and though Klefa is more expensive, he also has more pedigree.

  9. Lowetide says:

    dustrock:
    LT you don’t think Montreal would prefer RNH and say Klefbom?Part of it is selling to the fanbase and though Klefa is more expensive, he also has more pedigree.

    Nuge makes more sense for sure, if I am Montreal Klefbom has too much of an injury resume AND he is already a fairly costly deal. Maybe they take that, but suspect they might want more years under control.

  10. dustrock says:

    DBO:
    Is this a playoff Defense?

    Klefbom-Subban
    Sekera-Demers
    Davidson-Fayne
    Gryba (Reinhart in minors to start)

    the 1st, Nuge, Nurse for Subban, Eller and their 1st? Does this work? Not enough? too much?

    Yes especially if you basically play 4 D.

  11. DBO says:

    dustrock: Yes especially if you basically play 4 D.

    Most top teams do. But Davidson- Fayne works just fine by me as a 3rd D pairing. Or Gryba, Renhart. No idea if the money works. probably have to dump Eberle at same time and fill his spot with an affordable veteran (the vaunted Stempniak type)

  12. kinger_OIL says:

    – Great post LT!

    – I wouldn’t get so hung up on RD/LD: al things being equal sure: but just more D please

    – But I’d trade Hall and Klef for Subban and whatever else we need to take back: can’t see it though. Coach might not like Subban, but owner does, a lot

    – Then you only need one more D, that doesn’t have to be RD, and you could live with reduced minutes with some combo of Griff/Rein/Nurse/Davidson

    New Bona-fide-Subban
    Sekera-Fayne
    Break-in-the-kids-who-cares
    Gryba

  13. HeatTreaterJoe says:

    DBO:
    Is this a playoff Defense?

    Klefbom-Subban
    Sekera-Demers
    Davidson-Fayne
    Gryba (Reinhart in minors to start)

    the 1st, Nuge, Nurse for Subban, Eller and their 1st? Does this work? Not enough? too much?

    I like the look of that blue line, but (i) I doubt the Oilers get Subban without sending either Sekera or Klefbom back, and (ii) if we are spending 9M on Subban, we won’t be able to easily afford Demers (unless it is Sekera that’s going)

  14. russ99 says:

    Some of you guys really have a fancy for Klefbom due to the fancies, but I’ll concur that Sekera is our best defenseman in all three zones and it’s not close.

    We could use 2 more like him, then we can make those extrapolations about Klefbom and Nurse.

  15. AsiaOil says:

    I don’t want Fayne as our #2 RHD at the end of TC for a very simple reason – he will be your #1 RHD for some greater or lesser part of the season due to injury. As a #3 RHD who slides up to #2 RHD – sure – but no higher. He’s over-paid for what he brings as a #2-3 RHD tweener but better than a rookie or guys who are even more flawed. Might be more able to trade Fayne next March with only 1 year left – and he might also be useful cap matching cap space if a guy like Subban really is in play.

  16. dustrock says:

    russ99:
    Some of you guys really have a fancy for Klefbom due to the fancies, but I’ll concur that Sekera is our best defenseman in all three zones and it’s not close.

    We could use 2 more like him, then we can make those extrapolations about Klefbom and Nurse.

    Yes, ignore the stats, Sekera is better and it’s “not close”.

    Not sure if they’d want Nuge and Sekera that’s $11m, albeit for 2 positions.

  17. Lowetide says:

    DBO:
    Is this a playoff Defense?

    Klefbom-Subban
    Sekera-Demers
    Davidson-Fayne
    Gryba (Reinhart in minors to start)

    the 1st, Nuge, Nurse for Subban, Eller and their 1st? Does this work? Not enough? too much?

    Interesting trade idea. Very interesting.

  18. AsiaOil says:

    Except for the part where that defense costs over $30 million………

    Lowetide: Interesting trade idea. Very interesting.

  19. blainer says:

    I just don’t see the Habs trading Subban without something big going back on D. That is one massive hole on the right side D without a replacement. I will say that they have mostly righties in their system on D so maybe they see someone getting close.

    I would also trade Klef and Nuge but now way I do Hall and Klef.

    Trading Klef will not sit well with Ricki’s box area but if they do trade Klef for Subban I almost think that might upset Ricki as much as a Franson trade would for Godot.

    I have a feeling that Chia is really gonna shake it up at the draft with a big signing in his back pocket.

    Suspect he trades a fifth for the rights to Stamkos and he is signed before the draft and then he makes the massive trade that brings in our Elite D.

  20. Lowetide says:

    AsiaOil:
    Except for the part of it costing over $30 million………

    Nuge is $6M, Nurse (with bonus) 1.713 and Oil lottery pick 3.7-ish ($11.413M)
    Subban is $9M, Eller is $3.5 and Habs pick is not going to make the team ($12.5M)

    I don’t see a $30M tag on this deal. What am I missing?

  21. leadfarmer says:

    Lars Eller is getting 4.5 million dollars a year the next two years. If it doesnt work out you cannot move that contract. There is no way I would want a 25 point player on the roster than gets paid 4.25 and 4.75 million dollars. Sekera produces more as a defensemen and costs not much more. I don’t get the love for that player.

  22. Lowetide says:

    leadfarmer:
    Lars Eller is getting 4.5 million dollars a year the next two years.If it doesnt work out you cannot move that contract.There is no way I would want a 25 point player on the roster than gets paid 4.25 and 4.75 million dollars.Sekera produces more as a defensemen and costs not much more.I don’t get the love for that player.

    His cap hit is the issue. His cap hit is $3.5 million. Surely we can agree this is the number to argue.

  23. AsiaOil says:

    Lowetide,

    No it’s the total cap hit of the Oilers defense with Subban and Demers

    Subban $9 million
    Sekera $5.5 million
    Demers $5 million (est)
    Klef $4.16 million
    Fayne $ 3.43 million
    Davidson $1.425 million
    Gryba $1.5 million (est)

    Total = $30.015 million

    You will have to trade expensive forwards to afford that this summer – then Drai and CMD’s contracts gut the rest in the subsequent 2 summers. Adding Subban and Demers is not possible. Just Subban yes – or or a pair of $4 million guys like Hamonic/Vatanen – but not Subban plus a $4-5 million player.

  24. B.C.B says:

    fifthcartel:
    AsiaOil,

    I’d move anyone after Davidson really.

    I think that it is going to be Davidson moving in a trade for a elite Dman like Subban. His cap hit (1.4) along with the top 5 pick’s (3.7~) and one of the six-million-dollar men is roughly is 11.1, or equal to Subban plus parts (prospect, etc).
    Davidson’s ability (able to play in the top six, next year, and succeed) makes him attractive to a team that is going to need to replace the D they are sending away,
    Davidson seems like more more logical target in a Subban trade than Klefbom.

    but I guess the same money-wise argument could be used for Nurse, plus the latter would be expansion draft except

  25. fifthcartel says:

    B.C.B,

    I’m not sure if enough people around the league know about Davidson’s play. I think they’d want Nurse because his name is well known and it’s something the fan base can recognize and be ok with, “well at least we got Nurse, he’s gonna be good!,” where as Davidson probably doesn’t have that notoriety.

  26. Lowetide says:

    AsiaOil:
    Lowetide,

    No it’s the total cap hit of the Oilers defense with Subban and Demers

    Subban $9 million
    Sekera $5.5 million
    Demers $5 million (est)
    Klef $4.16 million
    Fayne $ 3.43 million
    Davidson $1.425 million
    Gryba $1.5 million (est)

    Total =$30.015 million

    You will have to trade expensive forwards to afford that this summer – then Drai and CMD’s contracts gut the rest in the subsequent 2 summers. Adding Subban and Demers is not possible. Just Subban yes – or or a pair of $4 million guys like Hamonic/Vatanen – but not Subban plus a $4-5 million player.

    Ah, gotcha. Thanks! I knew there was something not getting through. 🙂 Yes, that won’t be doable the following year.

  27. DBO says:

    AsiaOil:
    Lowetide,

    No it’s the total cap hit of the Oilers defense with Subban and Demers

    Subban $9 million
    Sekera $5.5 million
    Demers $5 million (est)
    Klef $4.16 million
    Fayne $ 3.43 million
    Davidson $1.425 million
    Gryba $1.5 million (est)

    Total =$30.015 million

    You will have to trade expensive forwards to afford that this summer – then Drai and CMD’s contracts gut the rest in the subsequent 2 summers. Adding Subban and Demers is not possible. Just Subban yes – or or a pair of $4 million guys like Hamonic/Vatanen – but not Subban plus a $4-5 million player.

    Fayne is off the books in 2 years, or you move him out to save money and go with a Gryba type that is always available cheap. Winning teams will have a lot of money in their top 4. Chicago’s top 3 costs $18.575. Yes they will end up moving out expensive forwards, but since we have been loaded with costly forwards and no D, I think going with costly D along with our forwards (with some value deals) is a better need. That is why it is so important to dump guys like Letestu and Korpikoski (and Fayne if needed).

    Ultimately you can not sign Demers and instead trade Eberle for Hamonic to save money on the back end and free up money at the wing positon.. Take a solid RD later in the draft with the Montreal pick (for future) and sign a Stempniak, hell a Radulov maybe, and run solid two way vet RW’s to go with our solid 3 LW’s.

    Hall-Drai-Purcell
    Maroon-McDavid-Yak
    Pouliot-Eller-Stempniak
    Hendricks-Lander/cheaper vet-Pakarinen
    Khaira-Slepeshev

    Klefbom-Subban
    Sekera-Hamonic
    Davidson-Gryba
    Vet

    Size, two way vet wingers, high end scoring talent with McDavid, Draisatl, Hall, Yak, Maroon. That;s two high end offensive units, one solid two way 3rd line and a solid 4th line, with some kids in Khaira and Slepeshev to fill in the gaps. The defense is balanced, big and has a puck mover on each pairing, and a true #1 D man with some solid PP options. It’s not the unicorns of 3 scoring lines, but it seems like a contending team with room for internal growth (so needed if we plan to keep our high end forwards).

  28. Acumen says:

    I finally got around to watching Guardians of the Galaxy a couple weeks back (good movie as far as these superhero flicks go, great soundtrack), now the RE alter ego comes off the screen as the voice of Chris Pratt. Makes the series that much better.

  29. Zack says:

    I’d try and pry Erik Karlsson over Subban.

    To Ottawa
    Nuge + Nurse + 1st Round 2016

    To Edmonton
    Karlsson + Lazar

    Not sure that Ottawa would go for that, would probably have to give up a greater piece or two. Doubt throwing in Yak would do it, at this point might make the deal even look worse…

  30. Mr DeBakey says:

    Lowetide: Ah, gotcha. Thanks! I knew there was something not getting through. Yes, that won’t be doable the following year.

    Which is why I keep saying Sekera has to be the guy going the other way.
    Sekera plus, of course.

  31. John Chambers says:

    We discuss a lot of what-if scenarios on the blog like: what if we traded Comrie for Corey Perry, or what if Buffalo hadn’t matched the offer sheet for Vanek, but …

    What if Hossa had signed that 9-year $81M contract offer back in summer ’08? Had Hossa gone gor the money I bet:

    – Hossa Horcoff Hemsky would’ve been a very good top line, with Penner-Gagner-Cole a solid 2nd.
    – even if the Oilers falter a bit in 2009-2012, at least they have quality vets to handle tougher assignments
    – Hossa serves as a mentor to the legion of young Oiler forwards
    – he ends up with more money and three (or four) fewer cups
    – the Oilers make the playoffs at least once over the duration of the contract

  32. Lowetide says:

    Mr DeBakey: Which is why I keep saying Sekera has to be the guy going the other way.
    Sekera plus, of course.

    From the Montreal pov, I don’t think it makes sense. Still think they will want a younger player, under control.

  33. Younger Oil says:

    Parayko is incredible. Wow.

  34. Younger Oil says:

    Also, makes me sick to see Gustafsson playing in the third period of a game seven for the defending Stanley Cup Champions. I’m happy for him, but it is so frustrating.

    I know he was lost in a glut of drafted LHD, which is another monumental failure by the organization, which is so frustrating because we are begging for NHL defencemen, and letting the ones we have go for nothing, and then trading a 1st and a 2nd round pick for one who isn’t any better than Gustafsson, who we let go for nothing.

    Edit: Just as I said that he makes a turnover leading to a goal, sorry for jinxing him!

  35. Gerta Rauss says:

    Both posts and stays out

    Lordy

    *edit-Blues hang on and advance, Chicago is out

  36. rickithebear says:

    Klefbom – subban

    Would be like brodie – giordano
    Giordano getting beat like arented mule in front of the net makes atop 10 dman look bad.

    Subban is a more expensive giordano.

  37. who says:

    Lowetide: Nuge makes more sense for sure, if I am Montreal Klefbom has too much of an injury resume AND he is already a fairly costly deal. Maybe they take that, but suspect they might want more years under control.

    I don’t understand the Klefbom part of this at all. There may be injury concerns but how do you get a cheaper, quality young dman under team control for any longer. He is actually under team control longer than Nurse.
    Doubt it matters anyways, as I don’t see the Habs trading Subban, but it’s fun to speculate.

  38. rickithebear says:

    Comp, hsca, evp/60, pkga, ppp/ppg say

    Even:
    Klefbom – xxx
    Sekera – fayne
    Davidson – xxx

    PP1
    Sekera better results than subban
    PP2
    Klefbom

    PK1
    Klefbom – Davidson
    PK2
    XXX – XXX

    Fill the slots!

    Hamonic could slot in 2nd or 3rd even rhd an 2 nd pk.
    But give up elite forward assets NAFC.

  39. Evilas says:

    it’s me in GM mode again, this is a modification of my previous GM post. I think Karlsson could be in play and I wonder if Stamkos would have interest to come to Oil if he is added. I would not offer him really big dollars and term, only 2 years at $8.5 million and there would be 97 reasons for doing so.

    FORWARDS (13)
    Rightwing: S. Stamkos ($8,500,000) – C. Stewart ($1,500,000) – C. Lazar ($894,167) – T. Pitlick ($840,000) – A. Cracknell ($630,000)
    Centre: C. McDavid ($925,000) – L. Draisaitl ($925,000) – A. Shaw ($2,850,000) – M. Letestu ($1,800,000)
    Leftwing: B. Pouliot ($4,000,000) – M. Hoffman ($5,250,000) – P. Maroon ($1,500,000) – J. Sallinen ($792,500)

    DEFENSE (8)
    Right: E. Karlsson ($6,500,000) – T. Hamonic ($3,857,143) – C. Murphy ($1,850,000) – K. Miller ($975,000)
    Left: O. Klefbom ($4,167,000) – A. Sekera ($5,500,000) – B. Davidson ($1,425,000) – A. Pardy ($750,000)

    GOALTENDER (2)
    C. Talbot ($4,166,667) – C. Anderson ($4,200,000)

    DETAILS
    Roster Size: 23
    NHL Salary Cap: $74,000,000
    LTIR: $3,250,000 – Ference
    Cap Hit: $71,047,477
    Cap Space: $2,952,523

  40. JimmyV1965 says:

    What about RNH, our first round pick and Klef for Faulk and Jordsn Staal? While Subban is a better dman, Staal is a better C who can play second or third line. The sweet thing about this is the Canes would need to get to the cap floor so we might be able to unload Fayne and Korpi.

  41. Evilas says:

    And this is how I got to the roster

    UFAs

    Stewart, Chris 3 x $1,500,000
    Stamkos, Steven 2 x $8,500,000
    Miller, Kevan 2 x $975,000
    Pardy, Adam 1 x $750,000
    Cracknell, Adam 1 x $630,000

    RFAs
    Hoffman, Mike 6 x $5,250,000
    Scarlett, Reece 3 x $675,000
    Shaw, Andrew 4 x $2,850,000
    Pitlick, Tyler 3 x $840,000
    Murphy, Connor 3 x $1,850,000

    TRADES

    Russo, R + 2016 6th round pick DET for Lander, A.

    Karlsson, E, Anderson, C, Lazar, C + Rights to Mike Hoffman for Hall, RNH, Brossoit, Caleb Jones,
    2017 1st round pick, 2018 2nd round pick, 2019 2nd round pick + rights to Sami Vatenan

    CBJ 2016 6th round pick for Korpikoski, L ($750,000 retained).

    Kujawinski, R + Rights to Reece Scarlett NJD for Laleggia, J. + Rights to David Musil

    Hamonic, T, Ho-Sang, + 2016 4th Round Pick NYI for Yakupov, N. + Fayne, M ($750,000 retained).
    Plus 2 x 2016 3rd round picks

    2016 6th round pick CAR for Hendricks, M.

    Rights to Connor Murphy + 2 x 2016 1st Round picks & 2017 2nd Round pick
    For 2016 1st Overall pick

    Montour, B, Boyle, K + 2017 2nd round pick & Rights to Sami Vatanen
    For Eberle, J ($2,500,000 retained), Yakimov + 2016 4th Round Pick

    Rights to Andrew Shaw for Rights to Pakarainen + 2016 5th round pick

  42. Evilas says:

    Yes it is ridiculous, but it brings big time roster & prospect RHD depth, brings in good C depth moving forward and allows two very good G prospects time in the AHL to get better. Most importantly, keeps Nurse and Reinhart in the AHL until they are actually ready and clears the deck for young D prospects coming up.

  43. Chachi says:

    Evilas:
    Yes it is ridiculous, but it brings big time roster & prospect RHD depth, brings in good C depth moving forward and allows two very good G prospects time in the AHL to get better.Most importantly, keeps Nurse and Reinhart in the AHL until they are actually ready and clears the deck for young D prospects coming up.

    I appreciate all the effort you have gone through to put this stuff together, but there were about 52 trades total in the NHL during the 2015/16 season (just after the 2015 Playoffs were over until the 2016 trade deadline). You have the Oilers adding 10 new players to the roster while making 9 trades (that would amount to a little under 20 percent of all trades made last year by all 30 teams.) I guess what I am saying is while it is nice to blue sky this stuff, trades are awfully hard to make in the NHL and I would not expect the Oilers to be able to come close to making the kinds of changes some people are hoping for this offseason.

  44. Lowetide says:

    Evilas: Dandy defense you have there, Sir!

  45. Younger Oil says:

    Evilas,

    To chime in, while we all respect the time and effort you put into your comments, I’m not sure they’re coming off the way you intend them to. If it’s just spitballing an idea that’s more for yourself and you just wanted to write it down and send it out there, it’s fine, but if you want your ideas to be discussed/replied to more, and to generate more conversation, sometimes less is more.

    Not that I’m a frequent or “high ranking” commenter on this blog or anything like that, but when I started out commenting on this blog, my comments were very similar to yours, suggesting 5 or 6 significant trades at a time that completely change the outlook of the franchise, throwing around prospects and draft picks to “balance the deal” like it would in a video game.

    While I also meant well, most of those comments went ignored, until one person let me know that it was just way too much at once, too similar to a video game, and by overvaluing/undervaluing one player or draft pick, or making the deal too complex, the whole thing just falls apart, and it’s more effort to respond and to say that than it’s worth. If it was that easy to improve the franchise that much, every team would do it.

    They then let me know that focusing on one player, or one team, or one trade in a comment is much more easily discussed and debated than a whole bunch at once, and it is much more likely that a person would reply to that with a different perspective, which fosters more intelligent discussion.

    I then did my best to change the style and content of my posts, and found that it is often true that posting less generates more discussion, and allowed me to be a lot more involved in the discussions in this community.

    Again, we all appreciate your insight, and I don’t want to tell you how to comment, just wanted to pass along some advice that really helped me.

  46. JJ says:

    This Subban trade rumour and his $9 million contract reminds me of the past regime’s whale hunting for Dany Heatley.

    I pray it is not true.

  47. Younger Oil says:

    JJ:
    This Subban trade rumour and his $9 million contract reminds me of the past regime’s whale hunting for Dany Heatley.

    I pray it is not true.

    To me the Subban talk was just Stauffer trying to fill air time on the radio.

    It was more asking a Montreal media guy “If it was true that Subban was available, what would it take for the Oilers to get him?”, to which he responded Hall and Klefbom, which of course generated conversation, but I don’t think it was ever discussed as a likely occurrence.

    I wouldn’t read too much into it, but would be disappointed if Chia wasn’t at least kicking the tires on any defenceman that could improve this team.

  48. Evilas says:

    Chachi,

    Understood and agreed. This has been an ongoing project that evolves periodically. I think Karlsson might shake loose and if so it would cost a lot. If so, what would/could it look like. I’ve been waiting for bold and I think we will see it this summer. Karlsson/Ottawa scream opportunity to me.

  49. AsiaOil says:

    Of course Chia is kicking tires but a $9 million cap hit hideous and limits you in so many ways. The guy who gets it has to make a Pronger-like impact to make it worthwhile. So I’d pass on Subban or Karlsson as it’s not like they put their team’s on their backs and carried them anywhere. It’s anyone’s guess who is available and who isnt at this point – but I don’t want to gut the team to get one guy unless it’s a UFA like Chara who only costs money. It’s too risky and smells of whale hunt. Just get two dmen next year (Hamonic, Vatanen, Ellis. Seversen etc) for some combination of Eberle, one of Nurse/Reinhart and Yak – and try sign UFA Errikson. Make a play on Demers if we strike out on Hamonic.

  50. Madtown Oil says:

    Can’t picture PKS wanting to spend the rest of his career in Edmonton–nothing against Edm, just don’t believe the town is cosmopolitan enough for him. Just imagine the outcry by fans if they give up RNH, Lane, and Davidson for him and he wants out after a year….

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