A LITTLE LESS CONVERSATION

by Lowetide

Connor McDavid was nominated for the Calder Trophy yesterday, the first Oiler to get the honor since Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (who should have won the award in 2012). I don’t think McDavid will win it, but the fact he was nominated tells us the NHL realizes how special the young man is—even with fewer than 50 games. I credit Elliotte Friedman, who publicly stated he felt McDavid was the best rookie and put his money where his mouth is on the issue.

CONNOR MCDAVID, 2015-16

  • 5×5 points per 60: 2.69 (1st among regular forwards, No. 2 NHL)
  • 5×4 points per 60: 6.68 (1st among regular forwards, No. 5 NHL)
  • Corsi for 5×5 %: 51.3 (3rd among regular forwards)
  • Qual Comp: 4th toughest competition among regulars (2line)
  • Qual Team: 9th best among regulars (3line)
  • Corsi for 5×5 % REL: 13.6(1st among regular forwards)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 105 shots/15.2%
  • Boxcars: 45, 16-32-48

(All numbers via Stats.HockeyAnalysis.com and BehindtheNet.ca)

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He posted 34 EV points in 45 games, as a teenage rookie. War-on-Ice has his Individual High-Danger Scoring chances at 64, No. 4 on the team despite the missed games. He had 17.25/60 On-Ice HDSC for, tremendous number. My favorite fancy is his 5×5/60 of 2.69, No. 2 in the entire league behind old man Jagr. I enjoyed every minute of his season, cherished it. One of my dear friends passed away before he played his first NHL game, and another fellow I respect a great deal passed away as his first season was just over. Enjoy these seasons, ladies and men. Nothing lasts forever anymore.

 THE BLUE SKY LIST

  1. D Erik Karlsson, Ottawa Senators. Franchise player. He won’t move.
  2. D P.K. Subban, Montreal Canadiens. Franchise player. He won’t move. Right?
  3. D Tyson Barrie, Colorado Avalanche. He is close to a perfect fit for the puck-moving portion of this Oilers team, and might be available.
  4. D Jason Demers, Dallas Stars. Effective defenseman, he costs only money.
  5. D Travis Hamonic, NY Islanders. This is a solid player and a great option for Edmonton.
  6. D Sami Vatanen, Anaheim Ducks. I like his puck-moving ability but as with all young blue there is not a clearly established level of ability. What we see is very good offensively.
  7. D Justin Faulk, Carolina Hurricanes. The gap between Faulk and (say) Barrie is not large in my mind. He cooled off as the season wore on but he would be a nice option.
  8. D Michael Stone, Arizona Coyotes. Two-way D spiked offensively this year, you would like to have a little more track with those kind of boxcars.
  9. Jacob Trouba, Winnipeg Jets. Strange year for a talented young player. Could be a buy low situation or a waste of assets.
  10. D Mark Pysyk, Buffalo Sabres. He has had several false starts in Buffalo, but the numbers imply there is a player here. Might shake loose and could help.
  11. D Damon Severson, New Jersey Devils. Under the radar name, he did pretty well in 2015-16. I have no idea if he is available but this is a player who is young enough to grow with the group in Edmonton.
  12. D Jordan Schmaultz, St. Louis Blues. One thing we haven’t looked at a lot is the substantial offensive defensemen in the AHL. Schmaultz is such a player and we could see the Oilers acquire a player like Schmaultz. He is a very good prospect.
  13. D Anthony DeAngelo, Tampa Bay Lightning. Another player with a puck-moving element to his game but not yet estsblished as an NHL player. We have talked about him quite a bit, most recently here.
  14. D Brandon Montour, Anaheim Ducks. This could be a special player. He is not far from a point-per-game as a rookie defensemen in the AHL. No idea if he is available but worth the ask.
  15. D Colin Miller, Boston Bruins. He never gets mentioned, but if you look at the numbers this guy keeps showing up in interesting places. No idea if he has a future, but his now is interesting.
  16. D Eric Gryba, Edmonton Oilers. I doubt Mark Fayne returns, and Gryba could slide in as an inexpensive option in the stay-at-home department.
  17. D Ville Pokka, Chicago Blackhawks. Young defender in the Chicago system just posted a solid year in the AHL. Suspect they will keep him, but you never know.
  18. D Ryan Sproul, Detroit Red Wings. Puck-moving defender in the AHL, he might be ready for an NHL role this fall.
  19. D Dennis Wideman, Calgary Flames. A year removed from a fantastic offensive season, he would probably be available for less than zero. Wildly unpopular idea, it might work.
  20. D Taylor Aronson, Nashville Predators. Minor-league defender with some interesting numbers and he shouldn’t be expensive.

PIERRE-LUC DUBOIS

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  • Steve Kournianois, The Draft Analyst: A skillful tower of strength in the mold of Jamie Benn or Patrick Marleau, Dubois is a mature specimen who combines God-given physical talents with a sort of sixth sense rarely seen in a teenage prospect. He’s tough to play against on or off the puck, and uses a wide stance and long wingspan to keep the puck nestled within an impregnable zone of protection. Dubois has a long stride and reaches top speed quickly for a forward already above 200 pounds before his 18th birthday. He is a tough out in one-on-one situations, and changes gears fast enough to leave the smartest of positional defenders behind him. His pro shot and quick release are just part of a myriad of ways he can beat you. All that said, his hockey sense and ability to process plays in a nanosecond helps vault him to the upper tier of a very talented group of draft-eligible power forwards. Source

  • Red Line Report: His move to centre this season has taken his game to new heights. He’s got the size, hands, hockey sense, and creativity to become a true #1 centre in the NHL. Add in his dedication to  getting better, mental make-up, and willingness to compete hard on every shift in all three zones,and he’s a fairly wart-proof prospect. The only minor pitfall is that he lacks first step explosion and a separation gear at the top end in his stride right now – but he is working on it diligently. Source

If I had a vote, PLD would be my choice for No. 4 overall (behind Matthews and the Finns).

  • Dubois overall: 62gp, 42-57-99
  • Dubois even strength: 62gp, 29-36-65
  • Dubois power play: 62gp, 10-17-27
  • Dubois penalty kill: 62gp, 3-4-7
  • Tkachuk overall: 57gp, 30-77-107
  • Tkachuk even strength: 57gp, 20-43-63
  • Tkachuk power play: 57gp, 9-33-42
  • Tkachuk penalty kill: 57gp, 1-1-2

The two men are about equal at even strength (1.05 for Dubois, 1.11 for Tkachuk) but Tkachuk wins the PP battle going away. Interesting to see Dubois gather so much of his offense (seven per cent) on the penalty kill. He is 6.03, 202 and was born June 24, 1988—Dubois is 195 days younger than Tkachuk. I don’t see either man as a center, Dubois or Tkachuk will likely be tied to Connor McDavid should Edmonton use the pick on either. The London Knights have churned out a lot of players over the years with gaudy numbers—it’s what they do—but the NHL results are uneven at best:

  • Rob Schremp NHLE final junior season: 63 points; Per 82NHL games: 39 points
  • Dave Bolland NHLE final junior season: 54 points; Per 82NHL games: 39 points
  • Sergei Kostitsyn NHLE final junior season: 55 points; Per 82NHL games: 41 points
  • Patrick Kane NHLE final junior season: 62 points; Per 82NHL games: 83 points
  • Sam Gagner NHLE final junior season: 55 points; Per 82NHL games: 47 points
  • Patrick Maroon NHLE final junior season: 35 points; Per 82NHL games: 35 points
  • Nazem Kadri NHLE final junior season: 41 points; Per 82NHL games: 49 points
  • Vladislav Namestnikov NHLE final junior season: 28 points; Per 82NHL games: 33 points
  • Max Domi NHLE final junior season: 47 points; Per 82NHL games: 52 points
  • Matt Tkachuk NHLE final junior season: 49 points; Per 82NHL games: ???

A couple things: Some of these players hung around for their 18 and 19 year old seasons, so that skews things a bit. Second, the underlined players are the ones who NHLE missed badly either way, Schremp to the poor and Kane to plus points (+21 as it turns out). So, Tkachuk most closely resembles Max Domi offensively here, but Domi hung around for two extra seasons. I think Tkachuk might be a better offensive player than pretty much all of the guys on this list—save Kane—and perhaps in a range with Kadri and Domi, with the understanding Tkachuk could spike in his next OHL season. Fair? Early days of course. I would still take the player from Quebec province.

There is always a chance, however slight, one of the top three teams does something crazy. Now, Toronto looks like they know what they are doing (their entire 2015 draft took a step forward) and Winnipeg has a growing reputation for being a quality team at the draft (they had some wobble in their 2015 draft—Jansen Harkins, their second-round pick, struggled). Columbus had a solid draft and Jarmo Kekalainen will have fabulous intel on the Finns. I don’t think Edmonton gets a chance at any of the consensus top three overall, but a veteran GM like Peter Chiarelli will no doubt hold on to the pick just in case.

Ack! Dammit! This is not good, people. Bruce Boudreau in Calgary would be ass in one way, fabulous in another. Hartley’s style fit my idea of the Flames (1970s) but Boudreau would have that team firing on all pistons by Christmas. Lordy.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

Today on the show, 10 this morning on TSN1260:

  • Jonathan Willis, Cult of Hockey and Oilers Nation. What should the Oilers do at No. 4?
  • Guy Flaming, Pipeline Show. Preview of WHL Finals.
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Draft lottery, playoffs, Blue Jays.
  • Andrew Bucholtz, 55-Yard Line. Player safety, and all these retirements.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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flyfish1168

I believe Yak should have won the Calder.

Ca$h-McMoney!

Put me down for ranking Hamonic as the #3 option. Ahead of Demers, whom I’m still a fan of.

I realize he costs assets, but for me it’s the contract that does it. A solid top pairing Dman (1 step under elite but still legit) at the right age, signed for several years under $4 million. That’s huge.

Hamonic + Pouliot costs the same, functionally, as Ebs + Gryba or Demers + Kassian. Just under $8 million for the pair, more or less. There is value there that can’t be ignored.

Also, I realize we tend to disparage character descriptions in favor of analytics, heck I’m on board, but that said I’ve heard several Islanders sources on NHL radio interviews describe Hamonic as the undisputed #1 leader on the team. Extremely well respected kid in the locker room. It’s not everything, but it sure doesn’t hurt.

dangilitis

http://www.iihfworlds2016.com/en/news/nail-for-russia/

Don’t know if people have seen this interview yet, I am usually late to the party.

“Q: Did you ever have this kind of understanding with someone else earlier in your career? Maybe in the junior leagues with Alex Galchenyuk?

A: Yes, we did have something like that. Nobody disturbed me and Alex. In the end of the first season in Edmonton I played well with Shawn Horcoff and Taylor Hall. It depends a lot on the partners. But you also need to look at the ice time. It is easy to find the chemistry with anyone in a trio, although all the players are different. However, I did not have that much of a chance to build a line with someone. The players in the trio constantly changed, the line was disturbed. There is no desire to remember it. And I’m not used to look back. In Edmonton there were some good moments. But unfortunately there were also some bad ones, which I want to forget, to start with a clean slate.”

“Q: Yakupov-Datsyuk could be a nice pair on the Russian national team. How do you see yourself with such a star centre?

A: It’s a great dream! I have not played against Datsyuk this season, but I did before and he’s a tremendous hockey player. It is fun to watch him play. And when you play against Pavel, you are completely focused. You know what this player can do magical things, which you do not expect from normal players. But I cannot pray enough to play with Datsyuk. We came to perform the same task. I have no right to choose my partners. I will play with anyone. But playing with Pasha would be a huge honour. I remember how I used to watch Datsyuk as a child. He came in the summer for a master class at our school in Nizhnekamsk, he taught us to skate. These were invaluable lessons!”

So:

1) Any verbal from Yak that was a bit more ambivalent about staying in Edmonton is clearly not the case, his mind was made up earlier in the season. And that’s completely fair

2) His favourite C to play with were Horcoff, Roy, and McDavid, separated by a good chunk of time with Lander, Letestu, talented but RAW centers, and co. Is this a surprise to anyone outside of management and coaching?

3) If he does get to play with Datsyuk, and does well, that could hopefully boost trade value. Or open the brass’ eyes that he could play a top 6 role. Almost certainly they would view it as the former.

jake70

Is Dubois a 1988 or 1998 birthday? If 88, quite an overager. 🙂

dustrock

LT you’ll probably decline but could you upload what RLR says about Chychrun?

Was reading HF Boards (yeah, yeah), and a guy who says he’s seen Dubois about 38 times says Jamie Benn is honestly the best example he could think of.

A couple of people said his size and toolbox is somewhat reminiscent of Couturier, possibly with a bit more offensive talent. Which also sounds pretty damn good.

Ca$h-McMoney!,

I agree that Hamonic’s contract is pretty amazing. Imagine a world where the Oilers somehow grab Subban and Hamonic and you can run Sekera-Subban and Klefbom-Hamonic, and Davidson-Fayne.

dangilitis

Also, going to put my 2 cents in here that I am really loving the way SJ has played so far, and why I am rooting for them:

– They are stacked with Canadians in important positions at F, D, and G.

– I can’t think of 2 more deserving guys to win a Cup than Marleau and Thornton. If anyone understands the undeserved criticism that Hall and co. take for being on a losing team, its these 2. Only they have missed the playoffs just once throughout their entire careers with SJ. Over 100 pts each in the playoffs. We would kill for that kind of “poor leadership/compete”

– Empathy for taking away their best chance at a Cup run and destroying Michalek.

Would love a SJ vs. PIT final

kinger_OIL

– Great post LT. Ricki mentioned it in last post: but what if we went old on 1 years contracts: Get Wideman (really doubt Flames trade to us though), and say a Brian Campbell for a year, and then you add one of your Barrie, Demers, Harmonic etc.

– Instead of going for it all with two 5×6 contracts, a one year over pay for a vet and 1 5×6.

– With vets that still can play for a year: you buy a year of development, and proper slotting for Griff/Nurse/Dvidson/Osterle etc.

G Money

Hartley news: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

This is not good, folks. Not good at all.

That team has a solid set of defensemen and decent forwards. They suck, and have sucked, in large part because of terrible coaching.

Get a decent coach on that team, and they’ll be back in the playoff hunt.

Dammit, I figured they wouldn’t clue in on this for another year. It’s mucho annoying that the teams in Calgary and Toronto are making intelligent moves – especially since the mixed results so far mean we’re still waiting on proof of that here.

dustrock

dangilitis,

Sharks have been my #2 team since expansion. (Pat Falloon!)

I remember Torres’ elbow on Michalek, told my brother that might have just won the series for the Oilers. That and Roloson’s unbelievable glove save against Cheechoo.

Think the Sharks would have won the Cup that year.

Rondo

PLD vs. MT

MT has played an extra season when compared to PLD. The fact that PLD is 195 younger than MT is huge.

Water Fire

G Money:
Hartley news: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

This is not good, folks.Not good at all.

That team has a solid set of defensemen and decent forwards.They suck, and have sucked, in large part because of terrible coaching.

Get a decent coach on that team, and they’ll be back in the playoff hunt.

Dammit, I figured they wouldn’t clue in on this for another year. It’s mucho annoying that the teams in Calgary and Toronto are making intelligent moves – especially since the mixed results so far mean we’re still waiting on proof of that here.

I wonder if this is the feeling the other teams got when Edmonton hired an established coach.

dustrock

New Radiohead, “Burn the Witch”.

Song is pretty good, video is fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI2oS2hoL0k

kinger_OIL

G Money,

G: with the Leafs in particular: they are going to be hard to compete for FA’s for rebuild :

– 1st they have more cap room.

– 2nd while their management is bloated, they have a lot of smart guys to prevent dumb overpays

– 3rd: More players are going to be attracted to living in Toronto than Edm: just a fact of life.

I can’t stand the leafs, but I live in Toronto, when they play well, the players are treated like Kings. It’s the capital of Hockey in the world. Just saying we have more competition for FA’s

vinotintazo

Rondo: MT has played an extra season when compared to PLD. The fact that PLD is 195 younger than MT is huge

Leon was a way older than bennett. this doesnt factor on my evaluation of who we pick.

for me is:
-Better Player all around
-Potential
-Fits what the team needs.
-Slam dunk consensus pick (ie, you’re sitting @ 4 on 2013, and nashville picks Jones when they dont need him.)

Edit: I would pick PLD too.

Klima's_Bucket

Water Fire: I wonder if this is the feeling the other teams got when Edmonton hired an established coach.

I don’t think Pat Quinn caused anybody any grey hairs.

Little Poteet

dustrock,

Saw the title and thought it would be a cover of the Queens of the Stoneage song
https://youtu.be/v7c187E5BxY

JimmyV1965

Not sure what value this has, but I was reading an article about Tyson Barrie on an Avalanche fan site and there was a real sense that it might be tough to re-sign him this year and that he might need to be traded. Is offering the 4th overall a reasonable deal? We could always threaten to offer sheet him, which would be our first round next year + later picks. I would think the Avs would prefer this year’s pick.

linkfromhyrule

Imagine if Calgary hired Carlyle instead of Boudreau. Wasn’t it Burke who hired him in TOR?

IMO Boudreau > Mclellan >>>>>>> Carlyle, Hartley

I seriously wish the results were more positive here. Chia has been a mixed bag of mostly good with some headscratchers mixed in, same with Todd.

I hate that Toronto and Calgary are being better managed, but I think it is good for the country overall if our hockey teams aren’t perpetually fighting for the #1 overall draft pick. It’s a national embarrassment.

At the very least, the Battle of Alberta just might be relevant again!

Santa

Hey LT,

I asked a couple threads ago, and I certainly don’t want to derail anything, but I think it might have been missed at the end, so I’ll ask again. Have you heard anything about Rem Pitlick? His numbers are great, very similar to Clayton Keller. Are any scouts talking about him? Is he worth taking a chance on with a later round pick?

Ca$h-McMoney!

Santa,

5ft 9inches
195 pounds

Rem “Brick Shithouse” Pitlick
Cousin to Tyler.

89 points in 52 USHL games… but doesn’t appear to have had a spot on the development team.

Interesting mid rounder for sure.

Richard S.S.

So, Nail Yakupov is gone – sooner or later. It’s hoped his appearance at the Worlds boosts his stock, increases his demand. He needs to play on a Team’s best line, but he doesn’t drive the bus. When he played on less than the best lines, he was expected to drive the bus – something he never learned. He adjusts his game to fit his linemates’ talents, something that takes time. Time was something he was never given enough of – it’s hard to adjust down. Hopefully Chiarelli makes the right evaluation, he’s a big asset in the right trade.

qball141

I think the value of room leadership gets lost in the conversation sometimes. Purcell’s comment about voices in the room got me thinking about how few of those there are in Edmonton. Hall and McDavid lead on the ice but I don’t see them as leaders in the room (not being there just conjecture). Who’s the vet leader in the room? Is it Hendricks? What would a guy like Backes bring, or if Hamonic is that guy? Every youth movement needs a few good vets and Barrie or Vatenen don’t bring that. Chiarelli had Chara (and others) in Boston. I don’t think the lack of senior leadership is lost on him.

hags9k

dustrock,

Thanks for the link, wow that’s creepy.

McSorley33

I am betting on PLD ….late birthday.

Incredible work ethic.

Worst case scenario incredible 3C with size.

A teenager with a 200 ft game?

Having said that, I would also be happy trading down a few spots to taking a D man. But I don’t think that is very likely to happen.

bigbadbruin24

LT,

A couple of things.

Firstly…as a fellow Bruins fan, which I know you are, I respectfully ask that you leave Colin Miller out of any further discussions regarding being traded to Edmonton and instead use your influence to try and convince the Bruins organization to use him more often themselves, lol. I like him a lot.

Secondly…Nice to see you mention Jordan Schmaltz…he is a very interesting option if he is available on the cheap. He scored 36 points on a very average team this year and looks poised to improve nicely. Could be another potentially good fit as a right handed DMan and probably only a year or so away.

Lastly…if you are looking at a real longshot with an outside chance there is another kid in the New Jersey system who hasn’t really had a serious look yet and may be unfairly heading the wrong way down the path in his career. Reece Scarlett is a smaller RHD who was drafted in 2011 in the later rounds while being projected to go either late second or early third round. He does a lot of things well but does not stand out in either a very good or very bad way. Could be a nice addition on the farm with an outside chance to make the bigs one day.

Cheers.

leadfarmer

Given that two of the most desired coaches last year finished 29th and 30th in the league this year I think we overstate a coaches ability to effect the game. We knew that they were going to regress to the meat this year. The acquisition of Hamilton was going to buffer that effect but he signed the big contract and didn’t play as advertised. Hudler was injured and dropped his production. Giordano did not start the season ready to play. The wheels fell of Wideman. And then whatever adjective you want to describe their goaltending situation, but I doubt Hartley coached Hillers save percentage to drop 40 points.
I did like the Phlegms better when they were drafting Jankowski and then putting ridiculous expectations like saying he will be the best one in the draft.

bbf_iii

vinotintazo: Leon was a way older than bennett. this doesnt factor on my evaluation of who we pick.

for me is:
-Better Player all around
-Potential
-Fits what the team needs.
-Slam dunk consensus pick (ie, you’re sitting @ 4 on 2013, and nashville picks Jones when they dont need him.)

Edit: I would pick PLD too.

The age thing impacts potential though.

DLite

Not super worried about possible Boudreau to the Flames. They have ZERO goaltending, they have issues at forward and Boudreau has posted his nice coaching record on absolutely stacked teams (Washington/Anaheim). Make no mistake, the Flames are no stacked team. Boudreau could be good for them, but it will be no quick miracle.

Ducey

leadfarmer:
Given that two of the most desired coaches last year finished 29th and 30th in the league this year I think we overstate a coaches ability to effect the game.We knew that they were going to regress to the meat this year.The acquisition of Hamilton was going to buffer that effect but he signed the big contract and didn’t play as advertised.Hudler was injured and dropped his production.Giordano did not start the season ready to play.The wheels fell of Wideman.And then whatever adjective you want to describe their goaltending situation, but I doubt Hartley coached Hillers save percentage to drop 40 points.
I did like the Phlegms better when they were drafting Jankowski and then putting ridiculous expectations like saying he will be the best one in the draft.

Agreed. Its the players.

Anaheim has a great GM and a very good team. I wouldn’t expect them to do much worse no matter who their coach is.

CGY may improve with a new coach but they have a ton of holes and not much $$ after they sign their big guns and find a goalie.

Richard S.S.

It’s been thought that Pierre-Luc Dubois (C), Matthew Tkachuk (L) and Olli Juolevi (LD) could play at the NHL level this fall. I’m not so sure. Not knowing the organizational needs of Winnipeg or Columbus, it’s just possible they don’t take both of the Finns. That makes the #4 pick worth potential gold. I hope Chiarelli is watching, interesting times.

Ducey

Oh, and poor Yak. He may not get to play on Russia’s top line!

Its so sad he may be expected to play some defense “lower” down the lineup and perhaps actually drive his own line.

I know he is well liked around here, but jeepers, man, take some responsibility for the fact things didn’t work out.

Trading him for one of the RH AHL defensemen mentioned above is the play. He won’t generate much more of a return.

kneedeepinit

Columbus has a few decent top 6 wingers but no #1 center. If they ever decided to draft based on need, they might pick PLD over Puljujarvii.

#1 centers are very difficult to find and they may not get another top 5 pick for a few years.

GCW_69

“D Damon Severson, New Jersey Devils. Under the radar name, he did pretty well in 2015-16. I have no idea if he is available but this is a player who is young enough to grow with the group in Edmonton.”

These articles and others suggest to me Severson could be had:

http://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2016/3/3/11156606/the-sitting-of-severson

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Todd-Cordell/New-Jersey-Devils-On-The-Handling-Of-Damon-Severson/159/75579

Rondo

Tyson Barrie for Travis Hamonic

https://milehighsticking.com/2016/05/03/colorado-avalanche-tyson-barrie-travis-hamonic/

“Both players give the puck away too often, but Hamonic makes up for it by taking the puck away more than he coughs it up. Hamonic is also as good on the penalty kill as Barrie is on the powerplay, but Barrie is overall the better special teams player with his average PK effectiveness compared to Hamonic’s abysmal powerplay performance.”

calgaryoilbaron

I expect you are looking at some prospect possibilities from the CHL as well. Here is a list of mostly RH d-men who are, for the most part, over-agers.

Jerret Smith – Seattle Thunderbirds
Macoy Erkamps – Brandon Wheat Kings
Colton Bobyk – Red Deer Rebels
Chase Harrison – Regina Pats
Ryan Gagnon – Victoria Royals
Arvin Atwal – Lethbridge Hurricanes
Kord Pankewicz – Lethbridge Hurricanes
Jesse Lees – Prince Albert Raiders
Jason Fram – Spokane Chiefs
Darren Raddysh – Erie Otters

Possible depth for the Barons — oops, I mean Condors.

GCW_69

kneedeepinit:
Columbus has a few decent top 6 wingers but no #1 center. If they ever decided to draft based on need, they might pick PLD over Puljujarvii.

#1 centers are very difficult to find and they may not get another top 5 pick for a few years.

Interesting point. That does make hanging on to the pick until Columbus has picked more interesting.

Truth

gary lawless ✔ ‎@garylawless
Mark Hillier, #nhljets dir. of am scouting, tells @hustlerlawless doesn’t believe there is organizational consensus at this point on #2 pick

Couldn’t this just mean they don’t have a consensus on the best player in the draft? If there’s no consensus #1 out of Mathews / Laine, then there is no consensus on #2 either. It also lets them proclaim they got the #1 guy on their board come draft day.

Ca$h-McMoney!

calgaryoilbaron:
I expect you are looking at some prospect possibilities from the CHL as well.Here is a list of mostly RH d-men who are, for the most part, over-agers.

Jerret Smith – Seattle Thunderbirds
Macoy Erkamps – Brandon Wheat Kings
Colton Bobyk – Red Deer Rebels
Chase Harrison – Regina Pats
Ryan Gagnon – Victoria Royals
Arvin Atwal – Lethbridge Hurricanes
Kord Pankewicz – Lethbridge Hurricanes
Jesse Lees – Prince Albert Raiders
Jason Fram – Spokane Chiefs
Darren Raddysh – Erie Otters

Possible depth for the Barons — oops, I mean Condors.

Erkamps signed with Ottawa.

Lots of locals, including the primary blogger, think Pankewicz is the best Dman on the Canes, inclusive of Andrew Nielsen. I don’t agree but it’s out there.

Woodguy

Dallas Eakins had mentioned Brian Burke as a mentor of his.

Given that and the fact that his parent club in Anaheim have head coach positions open, I wonder if Eakins lands one of them?

kinger_OIL

Woodguy,

– How fun would the Battle of Alberta be with Dallas as coach of Calgary…

doritogrande

I haven’t gone back and read his scouting report yet, but can someone please describe the differences between Dubois and last year’s Dal Colle? He’s fallen off a cliff this year, and is NYI’s newest candidate for “let’s trade a high draft pick for 150 cents on the dollar because he was a high draft pick” From the buzz I hear the same words; speed, size, strength, compete, but do they translate to anything more promising than a 4th overall Ethan Moreau?

Trade down, grab an NHL asset, and pick whatever D prospect is left at 10.

Finally, regarding Trouba, just say no. I’ve seen him more often than most, and he peaked early. Ceiling is probably Jason Smith, and he’s wanting 5M.

Klima's_Bucket

kinger_OIL,

Honest question,

When was the Battle of Alberta actually a battle?
The 80’s???
The early 90’s???

I don’t remember many good battles in the last 20 years.

AsiaOil

I’ll call it now – Columbus passes on Puljujarvi and takes Dubois – but I run to the stage for either guy.

Yak for Severson makes a ton of sense for both teams – NJD is desperate for forwards

jake70

kinger_OIL:
Woodguy,

– How fun would the Battle of Alberta be with Dallas as coach of Calgary…

Well, if they are nationally televised Saturday night late games, fun might not be the right word for one fan base, regardless of the coach.

Jordan

jake70: Well, if they are nationally televised Saturday night late games, fun might not be the right word for one fan base,regardless of the coach.

I don’t know if Ryan Nugetn-Hopkins would ever recover from the heartbreak of hearing Dallas talk about Sam Bennett’s eyes.

Material Elvis

AsiaOil:
I’ll call it now – Columbus passes on Puljujarvi and takes Dubois – but I run to the stage for either guy.

Yak for Severson makes a ton of sense for both teams – NJD is desperate for forwards

Is this because of Columbus’ center depth or do you think Kekalainen hates big Finns who can play?

Material Elvis

I would have a tough time passing on PLD at number 4. People are drawing comparisons to Jamie Benn, which is a decent comp, but in my limited viewing he reminds me a lot of Rick Nash (only is more physical). PLD really likes to drive the puck to the net and play in heavy traffic — exactly the type of player the Oilers need in their top 6.

Material Elvis

Woodguy:
Dallas Eakins had mentioned Brian Burke as a mentor of his.

Given that and the fact that his parents club in Anaheim have head coach positions open, I wonder if Eakins lands one of them?

Time to dust off the Disney bootjack.

Woodguy

kinger_OIL:
Woodguy,

– How fun would the Battle of Alberta be with Dallas as coach of Calgary…

Pretty much everyone who look forward to it.

I hope it happens.

BlueNoteNorth

Iirc Boudreau has immediate family in Ottawa area, so hope he lands with the Sens.