PACIFIC BLUE

by Lowetide

So far this spring, we have concentrated on RH defensemen in procurement for the Edmonton Oilers. Today, I take the RH list and throw a bunch of lefties in—with the idea that acquiring one of them allows trading a current Oilers LHD for the difficult to fill righty slot. Clear? Great.

DEFENSE: AN EXERCISE IN FUTILITY

  1. Jason Demers, Dallas Stars. The book end for Andrej Sekera?
  2. Tyson Barrie, Colorado Avalanche. Quality option for puck mover.
  3. Travis Hamonic, NY Islanders. Perfect fit if available.
  4. LD Alex Goligoski, Dallas Stars. He would be an outstanding option.
  5. Justin Faulk, Carolina Hurricanes. Would be higher, question availability.
  6. Sami Vatanen, Anaheim Ducks. Solid offense, not completely proven.
  7. Radko Gudas, Philadelphia Flyers. Strong, effective defender.
  8. Jacob Trouba, Winnipeg Jets. Strange year for a talented young player.
  9. LD Keith Yandle, NY Rangers. Offensive defenseman.
  10. Michael Stone, Arizona Coyotes. Major knee surgery.
  11. LD Brian Campbell, Florida Panthers. He is effective.
  12. David Savard, Columbus Blue Jackets. Range of skills.
  13. Damon Severson, New Jersey Devils. A nice underlying option.
  14. Mark Pysyk, Buffalo Sabres. The numbers imply there is a player here.
  15. Ryan Pulock, New York Islanders. Big shot from the point has high value. Very young.
  16. Ryan Murphy, Carolina Hurricanes. Some chaos, but good speed and puck-moving ability.
  17. Brandon Montour, Anaheim Ducks. This could be a special player.
  18. Cody Franson, Buffalo Sabres. That hammer from the point would come in handy and he fits a real need.
  19. Jordan Schmaultz, St. Louis Blues. Puck-moving prospect.
  20. Anthony DeAngelo, Tampa Bay Lightning. Another player with a puck-moving element to his game.
  21. Colin Miller, Boston Bruins. With the other Miller signing, maybe he is available.
  22. LD David Schlemko, New Jersey Devils. Depth D, has some nice things.
  23. Eric Gryba, Edmonton Oilers. I think management likes him.
  24. Ville Pokka, Chicago Blackhawks. Young defender in the Chicago system.
  25. Frank Corrado, Toronto Maple Leafs. Very little evidence but he showed up in some good places.
  26. Ryan Sproul, Detroit Red Wings. Puck-moving defender in the AHL.
  27. Dennis Wideman, Calgary Flames. A year removed from a fantastic offensive season.
  28. Taylor Aronson, Nashville Predators. Minor-league defender.
  29. LD Matt Irwin, Boston Bruins. Depth defender.

ETHAN RIFLES, ETHAN RIFLES!

bear capture camp oil

The Oilers need a pipeline of players, and the club badly needs to string some grand drafts together in order to help feed the McDavid era (trades, replacements, actual NHL players). How many players, on average, come from a single draft?

Let’s take 2005. That draft has delivered 111 NHL players (3.7 per team) and those players have averaged 229 NHL games. So, an equal share for the 2005 draft would be (229 x 3.7) is 847 games. Edmonton? 1,083 games, courtesy Andrew Cogliano (704), Chris VandeVelde (197), Taylor Chorney (123) and Danny Syvret (59).

The pipeline is important—every player—and drafting Ethan Bear is only one piece of the puzzle. Edmonton needs to sign him too—something that didn’t get done with Tobias Rieder and Erik Gustafsson—and then he has to get coached up in the AHL. The Oilers badly need Bear, Caleb Jones, John Marino and Ziyat Paigin to turn out. History tells us one of them is going to emerge and (likely) the other three will not, but signing all four and getting them into the system is damned important.

ONE OF THESE THINGS, IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS…

https://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/688132178912227329

https://twitter.com/sunterryjones/status/719275753070665728

  • Fluto Shinzawa, Boston Globe: The Wild have depth on defense. The Oilers do not. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins might be a player of interest for Boudreau and Wild GM Chuck Fletcher. In turn, with Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl in place, Edmonton is in a position of strength at center. This may be the time for the Oilers to deploy Nugent-Hopkins as trade collateral to improve their defense. Source

I want to make a couple of points here, one about the idea of RNH being dealt for a defenseman and another about the media.

  • Every once in awhile I will get an email about the media, usually suggesting things get made up just to grab attention. I don’t know any of the people mentioned above really well, but have worked with three of the four and can tell you that if they say it, write it, or broadcast it, there is something sourced driving that decision. Media is a funny thing (I know radio backwards, television and newspaper less so) in that all you really have is your reputation. Lose that, and it doesn’t take long before you are covering late night city hall meetings and reading up on quorums, publication bans and cost overruns. Once a media member gains substantial access, they guard it closely and make sure not to screw it up. Seriously. Information is the life blood of the hockey reporting business, and access is the key to getting it.
  • The reports above (from different points in the season/offseason) appear to be conflicting, but in fact all could be true. Rishaug’s line ‘no doubt in my mind’ tips me that he has a really good source, somewhere on planet earth, who told him something that led him to that conclusion. Why would he make it up? Mark Spector has an actual trade item (not completed) six weeks later—this is pretty substantial stuff, folks—and at that point (imo) there was a real possibility of a deal involving a veteran forward.
  • End of season, Terry Jones tweet above reflected a very positive media avail in which Peter Chiarelli was very complimentary about his young veteran center. We could assume that—this is April—the club may have been thinking about the value of the lottery pick, possible trades involving Benoit Pouliot and other (lesser) assets.
  • The Globe item comes in May, and be indicate the value on some of the movable assets is not as strong as hoped, and of course the lottery pick is No. 4, not No. 2.
  • If you add all of this up, pretty clear to me a case can be made that Nuge was in play during January, off the market in April (plans may have involved other assets out) and may be in play again as we head to draft day. Nuge is a wonderful player, hope like hell they don’t deal him, but parsing those tweets and stories it seems at least plausible that RNH is being discussed in trade.

DRAFT RE-ENTRY DAY

It is draft re-entry day, we covered the names here. I remember being mad as hell about the Oilers passing on Oil Kings later in the draft (I had seen Aaron Irving especially well), looks like the scouts may have gotten it right. There are some good players on there, names to keep in mind. Edmonton need to be procurement demons to make up for trading picks, not signing good players (if they don’t sign Ethan Bear the club will need to replace him) and draft misses. Hurricanes signed Wesley, just announced.

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FINAL LISTS!

This is always a fun time for draft geeks, as the final final lists come out (mostly this week and next). ISS is a fun list and their descriptions are thoughtful, insightful and substantial. The 2016 final list is here. It really points out how quickly things meander after about No. 20 overall—Riley Tufte is going to go higher than many people believe—and it is a fun list for sure.

HAMONIC

I received a dm this morning from someone who asked about Travis Hamonic’s availability. Idea being just because he has rescinded the trade request doesn’t mean Garth Snow will keep him. The next logical question is what is the ask? If we borrow the ‘trade a lefty for a righty’ idea from above, could the Oilers:

  • Sign Alex Goligoski
  • Trade a LHD for Travis Hamonic

I think it is an idea at least worth considering. Could you trade Sekera plus something to make the money work, for Hamonic and something else? Perhaps Snow is interested in Nurse? Injury worries to Klefbom and Brandon Davidson probably make those conversations a non-starter, but the idea has value in my opinion.

marincin and schultz

JUSTIN SCHULTZ

A lot of angst among Oilers Nation about Justin Schultz possibly winning a Stanley Cup. Folks, this is kind of crazy if you don’t mind me saying. If you date a girl, and it doesn’t work out, and you find yourself irrationally jealous that her next relationship is a winner, that says something about you—not the girl.

Also, and this is important, Justin Schultz was not a good player for the Oilers. That is a fact. We know this, have visual and math evidence plus, you know, they traded him. Schultz did not arrive in Pittsburgh as a top pairing savior and a small sample size in the Stanley Cup Final remains a small sample size full stop.

If you believe Justin Schultz has turned around the Penguins, you need to apologize immediately to Sidney Crosby. And Hockey. And life. Plus your Mom.

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frjohnk

I’m cheering for the Sharks but if the Pens win, I’ll be happy for Schultz

speeds

Couple NHL sources telling me Vegas is done deal for '17-18, with formal approval by BOG this month— Adrian Dater (@adater) June 1, 2016

zatch

If you move Sekera…that feels like the Gilbert-Petry_Sekera running in place Edmonton has done the last forever. How are you any better, really, by doing that? Who is replacing Sekera? I assume there’s an FA LHD that makes it logical.

Snowman

You packed a lot of great stuff in this one LT!

“If you date a girl, and it doesn’t work out, and you find yourself irrationally jealous that her next relationship is a winner, that says something about you—not the girl.” – Great line.

I would add to the Nuge trade discussion. Spector said he was offered and Chia directly refuted that later on in the season IIRC. I’ll try to find the presser but I’m pretty sure he said something along the lines of “lots of rumours about Nuge being dealt but I can assure you they aren’t true”. Something like that anyways. Not to say Spector is full of crap but I wonder sometimes if the media reports items that are given to them by sources who have other motivations other than helping a guy out with a piece he is writing.

Clay

zatch:
If you move Sekera…that feels like the Gilbert-Petry_Sekera running in place Edmonton has done the last forever. How are you any better, really, by doing that? Who is replacing Sekera? I assume there’s an FA LHD that makes it logical.

I believe that’s why he said you sign Goligoski first.

QCoilers

Lowetide (or anyone else!), I’ve seen in previous posts references to a 6% possession swing when a L-R pair of defensemen is used. Could you tell me where I can find more info on that finding, that is the blog post or study where it was obtained?

Lloyd B.

speeds:

That makes things more challenging as both McDavid and Nurse will need to be protected. Good thing Chiarelli has a year to get this figured out.

Once announced by the NHL I reckon we will see a year quite unlike any others regards trades as teams manoeuvre to fit the rules.

Truth

Klefbom is the trade chip the Oilers should use. I absolutely love the player but he is already being projected as a top 2 D around Edmonton (and elsewhere) while only playing 107 NHL games over 3 seasons. Plus he’s coming off an injury that forces him to permanently wear a custom skate made to reduce the pain experienced while skating. I seriously doubt his trade value will ever be as high as it is right now.

Jethro Tull

I’m surprised nobody has ever brought up Shea Weber as a potential target. Maybe Anton Lander + +?

zatch

Clay,

This was very obvious and I am pretty dumb for missing it.

My apologies, LT.

Ducey

QCoilers:
Lowetide (or anyone else!), I’ve seen in previous posts references to a 6% possession swing when a L-R pair of defensemen is used. Could you tell me where I can find more info on that finding, that is the blog post or study where it was obtained?

Go to Woodfellow’s Blog – Because Oilers. The link is on the front page of this blog. He has lots of stuff on the issue, including the link to the study.

bbf_iii

Lloyd B.: That makes things more challenging as both McDavid and Nurse will need to be protected. Good thing Chiarelli has a year to get this figured out.

Once announced by the NHL I reckon we will see a year quite unlike any others regards trades as teams manoeuvre to fit the rules.

I was under the impression that if the expansion draft was next summer, McDavid and Nurse would not have to be protected. They would still count as second-year pros as the draft will have to be before July 1 due to free agency.

Lloyd B.

bbf_iii,

I did not have enough coffee in me this morning. Fingers blurred when I counted past one. That definitely makes things easier this time around.

LostBoy

Is Chiarelli talking up Nuge at the year-end availability really in conflict with considering moving him?

I mean, I know the MacTavish way was opposite – explaining to the world that Horcoff and Hemsky had Loser Germs from losing too much and that hence he’d be moving them.

Trashing the trade value of assets didn’t work all that well, though.

LOObird

Great post, LT.

I’m glad Schultz was traded, but I would also be happy to see him lift the cup. I imagine the past couple years have not been easy for him.

You should slip him into your RH defensemen acquisition list just to see people’s reaction. I think it would be hilarious.

bbf_iii

Lloyd B.:
bbf_iii,

I did not have enough coffee in me this morning.Fingers blurred when I counted past one. That definitely makes things easier this time around.

Indeed. Basically, the Oilers should want the expansion draft as soon as possible.

dustrock

Snowman:
You packed a lot of great stuff in this one LT!

“If you date a girl, and it doesn’t work out, and you find yourself irrationally jealous that her next relationship is a winner, that says something about you—not the girl.” – Great line.

I would add to the Nuge trade discussion. Spector said he was offered and Chia directly refuted that later on in the season IIRC. I’ll try to find the presser but I’m pretty sure he said something along the lines of “lots of rumours about Nuge being dealt but I can assure you they aren’t true”. Something like that anyways. Not to say Spector is full of crap but I wonder sometimes if the media reports items that are given to them by sources who have other motivations other than helping a guy out with a piece he is writing.

It’s also possible Spector misunderstood what he was told.

Re Chia giving glowing praise for RNH at year’s end, of course he’s going to do that, he wants to drive value up, not down.

DRFNsuperstar

Do they get these measurements from the combine?

http://www.isshockey.com/iss-hockey-releases-final-rankings-in-its-2016-iss-nhl-draft-guide/

Because Matthews at 6’1″ and 210 is a brick sh*thouse of an 18 year old…there are a ton of big dudes in the top 20. Chychrun and Sergachev have NHL size, would anyone be surprised if Chychrun has a Hanifin type season next year? Their draft years seem very similar, highly rated going into the season, offence gets questioned, talk of other D passing them on the scouting lists due to overexposure, skating and defence are NHL ready. If he gets drafted by someone like Buf or NJ and plays 3rd pair easy minutes he would probably succeed.

Hockey Buddha

We need 2 RHD as I see it: a young stud RHD and more of a stop-gap RHD. Almost any of those options make our defense better. Even LT’s no. 30. Not a sexy move, but I’m unopposed to bringing in Wideman from Calgary. Wideman suits me fine as a stop-gap option, a guy who can move the puck very effectively. His value is low right now (big contract, underperformed slightly), and he’d fill the gap for 2-3 years until Bear can make the jump. That is, if things continue to break right for Bear. I also think Fayne is fine. We just need to get better ahead of him.

Snowman

dustrock: It’s also possible Spector misunderstood what he was told.

Re Chia giving glowing praise for RNH at year’s end, of course he’s going to do that, he wants to drive value up, not down.

I suppose that possible. I wonder though if Spector’s source wasn’t with the Oilers, rather maybe someone who wanted Nuge.

Or maybe Chia changed his tune like Lowetide said. I can’t find that interview or presser so its also possible that my memory is playing tricks on me as well.

Many things are possible today when it comes to my memory.

DRFNsuperstar

Also,

Keller is really young!!!!!!!

How does the USHL (the final scouting frontier) rate for NHLEs compared to the Q and BCHL?

dustrock

Snowman: I suppose that possible. I wonder though if Spector’s source wasn’t with the Oilers, rather maybe someone who wanted Nuge.

Or maybe Chia changed his tune like Lowetide said. I can’t find that interview or presser so its also possible that my memory is playing tricks on me as well.

Many things are possible today when it comes to my memory.

Heh heh exactly. I’m also not convinced reporters are told exact specifics until the deal is basically confirmed.

Spector: “Are you looking at making a move for a defenceman?”

Chia/Source: “Yeah, we’ve discussed a couple of fairly substantial moves.”

Spector: “Are you looking at Seth Jones?”

Chia/Source: “He’s one of the players we’re discussing.”

Spector: “Would the deal be something like RNH?”

Chia/Source: “That name has come up in discussions.”

N64

bbf_iii: Indeed. Basically, the Oilers should want the expansion draft as soon as possible.

Yes. The best scenario for the Oil is that Vegas and Quebec get teams in 2017-18 or not at all. Delay is our enemy.

Jaxon

I was hoping San Jose wouldn’t go far because every round they won this year increased the odds that Thornton, Marleau and Burns will want to come back to either defend their Cup or try again at winning it. I was hoping Burns wouldn’t have a career year on a team that went all the way so he might follow McLellan to Edmonton next summer. Alas, that looks less likely all the time. I guesses I can still hope that they implode next season.

Primetime

Snowman:
You packed a lot of great stuff in this one LT!

“If you date a girl, and it doesn’t work out, and you find yourself irrationally jealous that her next relationship is a winner, that says something about you—not the girl.” – Great line.

I would add to the Nuge trade discussion. Spector said he was offered and Chia directly refuted that later on in the season IIRC. I’ll try to find the presser but I’m pretty sure he said something along the lines of “lots of rumours about Nuge being dealt but I can assure you they aren’t true”. Something like that anyways. Not to say Spector is full of crap but I wonder sometimes if the media reports items that are given to them by sources who have other motivations other than helping a guy out with a piece he is writing.

I mentioned this at the time of Spector’s story: I think it’s entirely possible that he had good info but just lacked the background context. I believe it was Columbus driving this trade as they were trying to rid themselves of Johansen (Tortorella’s hiring being the final nail in the coffin). They called Poile and kept bugging him until Seth Jones was part of the deal. At that point, isn’t it possible that Poile decided to see who else he may be able to get if he was actually going to trade the prized prospect? I have no doubt that he would have checked on both RNH and Duchene’s availability before pulling the trigger as both of those teams also needed a young, stud D-man. Thus, RNH was brought up in discussion for Jones but not necessarily “offered up”. Chia wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t at least answer the phone call and discuss the possibility, even if Poile ultimately decided on RyJo.

On a related note…Columbus is still desperately needing a centre. If they are set on drafting Puljujarvi, would they now flip Seth Jones for RNH? Would you do it if you were the Oilers?

kinger_OIL

– OK great write-up LT. Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool? First prize is a donation to Lowetide. 2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!). If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear. I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

Ca$h-McMoney!

QCoilers:
Lowetide (or anyone else!), I’ve seen in previous posts references to a 6% possession swing when a L-R pair of defensemen is used. Could you tell me where I can find more info on that finding, that is the blog post or study where it was obtained?

GMoney would be happy to go over it in detail for you.

Ca$h-McMoney!

kinger_OIL:
– OK great write-up LT.Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool?First prize is a donation to Lowetide.2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!).If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear.I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

First off, I read the first little bit as you inviting us to a pool party. Which was nice, followed shortly by disappointing as I kept reading.

Anyway….

1) Pulliarvi
2) Faulk
3) Jack Johnson
4) Montoya
5) RNH
6) Lander
7) Hartnell
8) Nope
9) 3 (RNH for Faulk)
10) Klef Davidson Nurse (on the roster includes pressbox)

Younger Oil

Really great write-up LT.

I don’t know this for sure, I could be crazy, but I thought I heard somewhere that Nurse wasn’t considered to be untouchable, and could be moved if the price is right.

On the ISS rankings, the most significant thing by far IMO is the fact that Adam Mascherin is left out of the top 30. Built like a tank (5’10” 200 lbs), fast, plays a heavy game, and has the 3rd best even strength primary points per game out of 1st year draft eligible CHL forwards. I’m shocked that he’s not ranked higher than he is on almost every list, and would put money on him being the steal of the draft.

Pelley

Offer Sheet Seth Jones! Curious what you think about that. See this blog: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matt-Henderson/Offer-Sheet-Seth-Jones/191/77300

Professor Q

I really am not looking forward to Edmonton playing against Vancouver and Logan Brown if they do decide to do that…

who

kinger_OIL:
– OK great write-up LT.Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool?First prize is a donation to Lowetide.2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!).If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear.I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

1)PLD
2)Trouba
3)No one
4)Hutchison
5)Yes Hall
6)No one
7)No one
8)No
9)2
10)Nurse, Davidson, Klef

Ducey

Pelley:
Offer Sheet Seth Jones! Curious what you think about that. See this blog: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Matt-Henderson/Offer-Sheet-Seth-Jones/191/77300

Its too risky.

No way that $5.5 per year will be enough. CLB will match.

So the Oilers would be paying $6+ x 7 yrs for a guy with a ton of potential but one that struggled upon his move to CLB. That indicates he is not really ready for prime time.

That assumes that CLB just doesn’t match and then flip him elsewhere, or flips him before the offer sheet comes down (see Dougie Hamilton)

Maybe he is worth that kind of money by year 3 of the contract, maybe he never is. Its very unlikely that contract will ever be a deal.

Plus you give up your draft (1st, 2nd, 3rd) next year.

I love Jones and would try and make a trade for him, but offer sheets just don’t work.

Johnny skid

who: 1)PLD
2)Trouba
3)No one
4)Hutchison
5)Yes Hall
6)No one
7)No one
8)No
9)2
10)Nurse, Davidson, Klef

i really like your number 2 choice.

spoiler

Nurse and the 4th overall as the core of a deal for either Faulk and the 21st overall or Pietrangelo/Shattenkirk and the 28th overall. St. Loo can then sign their captain, Backes.

Yak and Korpse for Severson/Larsson… NJ’s choice.

Sign Brouwer and Stewart. Sign Chad Johnson. Re-sign Gryba

Maroon–McDeity–Eberle
Hall–Nuge–Brouwer
Pouliot–Draisaitl–Stewart
Hendricks–Letestu–Kassian
Pakarinen

Klefbom–Pietrangelo
Sekera–Fayne
Davidson–Severson
Reinhart–Gryba

Talbot
Johnson
Broissoit

Ducey

kinger_OIL:
– OK great write-up LT.Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool?First prize is a donation to Lowetide.2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!).If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear.I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

1)Fabbro
2)Demers
3)Vatanan
4)Anders Nilsson (again)
5)Eberle
6)Ference
7)Loui Eriksson
8) Howson will
9)5 (Yak for RH D prospect)
10)Davidson Klefbom

RexLibris

Moving Sekera and a prospect for Hamonic and perhaps the rights to a pending UFA like Nielsen would be a great way to deal with the D problem.

If you honestly think that the injuries to Davidson and Klefbom would be warning sign to other GMs, it could be a blessing in disguise.

kinger_OIL

Here’s my answers by the way:

1) Nathan Bastian (they trade their 1st round pick)
2) Spurgeon
3) Yandle
4) Enroth
5) 2: RNH/Eberle
6) Korposki/Lander/Ferrence
7) Okposo
8) Yes -: Chia brings in more of his guys above them
9) 5 (RNH for Spurgeon)
10) Davidson

kinger_OIL

Ducey,

– I forgot to ask a question about Yak, as I see him so gone anyways, I forgot about him: I should have added one though!

Woodguy

QCoilers:
Lowetide (or anyone else!), I’ve seen in previous posts references to a 6% possession swing when a L-R pair of defensemen is used. Could you tell me where I can find more info on that finding, that is the blog post or study where it was obtained?

https://hockey-graphs.com/2016/03/04/quantifying-the-importance-of-handedness/

Professor Q

kinger_OIL:
Here’s my answers by the way:

1) Nathan Bastian (they trade their 1st round pick)
2) Spurgeon
3) Yandle
4) Enroth
5) 2: RNH/Eberle
6) Korposki/Lander/Ferrence
7) Okposo
8) Yes -: Chia brings in more of his guys above them
9) 5 (RNH for Spurgeon)
10) Klef Davidson

I’d like to see them try for both Raddysh and Bastian.

Younger Oil

kinger_OIL:
– OK great write-up LT.Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool?First prize is a donation to Lowetide.2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!).If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear.I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

1. Tkachuk (not who I want, but who I think they’ll pick)
2. Sami Vatanen
3. Jason Demers
4. Enroth
5. No (Though one probably should be)
6. Lander, Fayne (though they shouldn’t, should be Korpse)
7. Andrew Shaw
8. No (Though I wish)
9. Does this include trades with just draft picks? If so, I’ll say 4. If not, 3.
10. Davidson Klefbom Nurse Reinhart (though Nurse and Reinhart should go to the AHL)

Funny how almost half of my choices are based on me thinking the management will make the wrong decision.

zatch

kinger_OIL:
– OK great write-up LT.Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool?First prize is a donation to Lowetide.2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!).If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear.I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

1) Olli Juolevi
2) Jason Demers
3) Patrick Weircoch
4) Brossoit
5) Nuge, It will be a mistake.
6) Korpse
7) Lars Eller
8) Howson will be
9) 5
10) Nurse, Davisdon, Klef, Griff on roster but not dressed.

Woodguy

kinger_OIL:
– OK great write-up LT.Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool?First prize is a donation to Lowetide.2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!).If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear.I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

1) Juolevi
2) Barrie
3) Franson
4) Khudobin
5) RNH
6) None
7) Brower
8) Howson only
9) 3, Yak for a 2nd
10) Nurse, Davidson, Klef

Younger Oil

Professor Q: I’d like to see them try for both Raddysh and Bastian.

Doing my research on primary even strength scoring for CHL forwards, Bastian did not show well at all. His EV pPPG were the worst relative to his consensus draft ranking (he is ranked in the top 15 for CHL forwards on most lists, but is 30th in scoring by this metric), which strongly suggests his linemates (McLeod and Nylander) could have pumped his offensive numbers up by a fair amount, and he may really struggle to score at a higher level. I liked him on paper at first as well until I saw this data.

Raddysh is a gem though (6th in EV pPPG, though Strome and DeBrincat pumped his offense a bit), and Adam Mascherin I’m convinced is going to be the steal of the draft (3rd in EV pPPG, but the 20th CHL forward on most lists.

Tapdog

who: 1)PLD
2)Trouba
3)No one
4)Hutchison
5)Yes Hall
6)No one
7)No one
8)No
9)2
10)Nurse, Davidson, Klef

So #3 is No one but yet in #5 you trade Hall?????

Care to share who you flipped him for?

Professor Q

Younger Oil: Doing my research on primary even strength scoring for CHL forwards, Bastian did not show well at all. His EV pPPG were the worst relative to his consensus draft ranking (he is ranked in the top 15 for CHL forwards on most lists, but is 30th in scoring by this metric), which strongly suggests his linemates (McLeod and Nylander) could have pumped his offensive numbers up by a fair amount, and he may really struggle to score at a higher level. I liked him on paper at first as well until I saw this data.

Raddysh is a gem though (6th in EV pPPG, though Strome and DeBrincat pumped his offense a bit), and Adam Mascherin I’m convinced is going to be the steal of the draft (3rd in EV pPPG, but the 20th CHL forward on most lists.

Plus if they get Raddysh this year, they can try for Timber Lewis and Jerzy Orchard in 2018/2019.

prairieschooner

A bit of sunshine for Justin Schultz, good for him.
When you draft BPA you have to accept that trading someone you like will happen ie RNH
PC goes into his “How do I upgrade my team battle ” with only so many weapons at his disposal

Professor Q

Younger Oil: Doing my research on primary even strength scoring for CHL forwards, Bastian did not show well at all. His EV pPPG were the worst relative to his consensus draft ranking (he is ranked in the top 15 for CHL forwards on most lists, but is 30th in scoring by this metric), which strongly suggests his linemates (McLeod and Nylander) could have pumped his offensive numbers up by a fair amount, and he may really struggle to score at a higher level. I liked him on paper at first as well until I saw this data.

Raddysh is a gem though (6th in EV pPPG, though Strome and DeBrincat pumped his offense a bit), and Adam Mascherin I’m convinced is going to be the steal of the draft (3rd in EV pPPG, but the 20th CHL forward on most lists.

It could also be an Erie line with McDavid and Caggiula.

spoiler

kinger_OIL:
– OK great write-up LT.Because I have ants in my pants, and am bored between now and Draft, does anyone want to try out my pool?First prize is a donation to Lowetide.2nd prize: a set of steak knifes, third place: you are banned from LT (I kid!).If I get enough responses, I will tabulate:

1) Who will the first player drafted by the Oil this year? (because I’m tricky/sneaky!)
2) Name one D that the Oil will acquire, not currently on roster
3) Name another D that the Oil will acquire, (no one is fine as anwer)
4) Who will be the backup goalie next year
5) Will one of the Steve Austins (Ebs/Hall/RNH) be traded (bonus point to pick right one(s))
6) Which NHL roster players will be bought-out or sent to AHL before start of next season
7) Who is going to be the forward acquired with the biggest salary in the off-season (no one fine)
8) Will MacT and/or Howson be “reassigned”?
9) How many separate trades will the Oil complete (bonus if you name one)
10) Of Griff/Nurse/Davidson/Osterle/Klef: which ones will be on starting roster for first game

Maybe asking a lot, and maybe no one cares, but I thought it might be fun to hear.I will track and give prize to LT if we get more than 15 entries….

– Just post 1-10 and I will tabulate

1. Fabbro at 28
2. Shattenkirk
3. Severson
4. Chad Johnson
5. None… trading Hall is insane, Yak has demanded a trade so Ebs can’t go, nor bring enough back, and RNH is right now the #1 C
6. Possibly Korpse if no takers
7. Brouwer
8. We’ll never actually know.
9. Three. Nurse + 4OV to St. Loo for Shatty abd 28 OV, possible other kickers.
10. Klef, Davidson on ice, Reinhart PB.

Hmm… By asking question 10 you stretch this out till October and now we’re guessing on TC injuries.