SAIL ON, WINDSOR SPITFIRE

by Lowetide

The first thing I wrote on this blog about Taylor Hall came in the hours after he was hammered into the boards at the Memorial Cup by Travis Hamonic. I remember thinking a body isn’t supposed to do that, and we all sat silent, waiting to find out how badly he was injured. Answer came later that period, when he scored a goal—and from that point forward Taylor Hall was an Oiler in my mind.

Came the draft, the crowd went crazy—and that was a calling card for the young 4. As an Oilers fan, I have been blessed to watch all manner of brilliance on skates since 1972. Taylor Hall was a unique talent, breathtaking, a solo on ice right in the middle of a team game.

I called him Chance, because he got so many. I well remember an overtime goal he scored against St. Louis maybe December 5 of his rookie season. Fast, quick, brilliant. Music! Visiting Rexall when Hall was in the lineup was never boring, not once. He was, and is, a wonderful talent.

I think this is a difficult day for every Oilers fan, because the No. 1 overall pick used on Taylor Hall belonged to them in a very real way. A faithful fan base walked those steps to Rexall in a season lost and bought into the idea of a rebuild fast as lightning.

Today, Taylor Hall was traded away for a player we barely know. Worse, said player does not have the same value as Hall, who we have seen his entire career. It is a bitter pill, from an organization that has not earned our trust in over a decade.

Oilers fans may try to figure out a way to trade management and keep Hall but it does not work that way. We can curse the decision, we can shake our fists, we can name-call as children, or we can turn on each other.

It does not matter. The die is cast. The Edmonton Oilers made a bad trade today, and they will again. The only difference about this trade is that, this time, they traded the city’s favorite son—and after you are done hollering, you must decide if you can forgive them, devote your passion to this addled team.

Peter Chiarelli is a veteran general manager who cast about looking for a solution to a major problem—brought about the day Jeff Petry was traded for picks. Peter Chiarelli found his defenseman and will now go about the business of roster building over the rest of the summer.

I do not believe Oilers fans will forgive this, and if the playoffs do not arrive next spring my guess is Edmonton’s hockey team will have a new general manager. If the standings reflect darkness, he might be gone by Christmas. Godspeed, Peter Chiarelli. You better be right.

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Truth

Excellent work LT, this is a post I was wishing I’d never see.

“I do not believe Oilers fans will forgive this, and if the playoffs do not arrive next spring my guess is Edmonton’s hockey team will have a new general manager. If the standings reflect darkness, he might be gone by Christmas. Godspeed, Peter Chiarelli. You better be right.”

You are absolutely correct. If he was fired immediately I’d say it was warranted.

PunjabiOil

The Oilers are not contending for a cup next season.Even if Hall’s value is low, and you feel you have to trade him, wait until you get value that is proportional to his level of play.

Speeds pointed it out – is Larsson that much better than Demers that you give up Hall in the process?

There is no justifying this trade.An absolute poor job in asset management, even if you like Larsson.

This just sets back the ‘rebuild’ – and makes it more difficult to win the Stanley Cup.

OilersNow
‏@OilersNow

Hall admits he feels a little slighted by the deal. Says he’s been a good solider for the last six years.

Greg Wyshynski ‏@wyshynski 4m4 minutes ago

Taylor Hall said Edmonton was “taken from him,” when discussing chat with Chiarelli. #Oilers

Hall never complained or said a peep to anyone throughout the years of losing, mismanagement, poor roster decisions and worse coaches. Oilers dicked him around hard. More than being bad from a hockey POV its also bad from the personal angle. Meanwhile guys like Ebs are coasting and are spared the same treatment because they hold their stick differently.

__________

Fireable offense to be honest.

p3rsonman

I’m so torn. I love this team, but the men running it have tore my heart out.

I think I will continue to watch, but right now I have to say I’m not sure if I am a bigger Oiler fan than I am Hall fan. This hurts.

Sail on, Hallsy. You will be dearly missed.

spoiler

Oh Brethren, weep to-day. The silent Gord hath quenched my Torch’s ray, And the vain dream hath flown.

Friedrich Schiller

London Jon

you have to think chia tried pulliot plus, then eberle, then rnh and he’d gotten so fixated on this kid that he just kept going…

Centre of attention

*takes a long drink of whiskey*

Center depth.

We still have it, for now.

*drinks more waiting for Nuge fleecing*

Jon K

Taylor Hall came to the Oilers during a dark, hard time. Logically, the management group incompetent enough to procure his services was not competent enough to make use of those services. Oddly enough, by association we blame him for this, and not the men still cutting cheques with the organization.

Said many things about Hall. Hard to see a young player in their prime go, especially one who wanted to remain and win.

Good health and well wishes to the young man.

"Steve Smith"

I’m not as upset about this trade as I thought I’d be. Not because I think it’s an okay trade – it manifestly is not. I’m just not that upset about it. Perhaps I already gave up on this team without noticing.

stephen sheps

Reposting from the last thread in a far more appropriate one:

I remember the first time I actually met Taylor Hall while out for a drink in Kingston in the summer of 2013 I believe. It was actually my then-housemate, another diehard Oiler fan in Ontario like myself, who spotted him. We were both star struck and dumbfounded that Hallsy would be at that particular bar (not the usual undergrad-aged haunt but rather the one bar off campus most of us grumpy grad-students could go where our students wouldn’t bother us) but there he was.

Housemate and I were both unsure what the protocol was at this point, to say hello or not to say hello. Eventually I got up the courage and walked over to him to introduce myself and wish him luck in the upcoming season. I even offered to buy him (he of the Steve Austin contract, me of the grad school stipend) a drink. He was actually somewhat shy and reserved, politely declined the drink and thanked me for the well wishes. I at first mistook his reaction for aloofness, especially given the stories I had been told about him by my female students, but then I realized that Kingston is his offseason home and he just wanted to enjoy the quiet bar with his friends and not be bothered by fans, much the same way that I didn’t want my own students to find me.

Sail on Taylor. Like Ales before you, you deserved better. I wish you nothing but success in Jersey, which I think might have to become my new eastern conference team (other than the Bruins) by default.

Edit: to echo the sentiment above, this is indeed a sail on post I never hoped (but somehow always knew) I would see. Taylor Hall was a fantastic Oiler, and brought us all some of the only moments of joy and excitement over the last 6 years, moments that were altogether too few and far between in a decade of lost hope, bad decisions and an overwhelming lack of balance. He will still be a joy to watch, and living in the east I will make sure I watch at least a few Devils games a month now. And thankfully the Oilers only have to play the Devils twice a year, because you know Taylor already has those games circled on his calendar

oilcanharry

I remember that OT goal as well. Horcoff submarined a guy, as I recall, and Hall took the puck up the left side.

Sigh. I was ready for Larsson, but at a lower price point, and I was willing to believe in a trade involving Taylor Hall, but only with the moon and stars coming back. A top-flight talent, someone who plays for Team Canada outside the Worlds, or someone who misses the cut by a hair, like our man Hall.

I’m as sad as hockey is allowed to count for. Reminds me the 2006 cup run. High hopes, crushing disappointment, and a long, empty summer to think about it.

marty62

After spitting nails and swearing at the sky I believe LT has it right. This trade happened because Lowe an Mctavish and Tambi put us in such a deep hole on defence that we had to sacrifice one of our sons to fix it. I think if this doenst work by Christmas Chia should fall on his sword and he should kill Lowe, MacTavish and Howson before he does. Sail on Taylor, you will be missed….

Seismic Source

Sad Fucking Day.

HugThePost

Well, at least we can perhaps be happy for Hall from the perspective that he is finally free from this organization. They really screwed him over for his entire pro hockey career thus far by failing repeatedly to surround him with a real hockey team with the intentions of winning games. He brought them their gate and merchandise revenues and along the way had to fight most of his own battles. Shouldered a lot of abuse from fans and sadly enough, the Oilers.

Perhaps he was arrogant and not all cuddly and soft in the dressing room? There is a road named after a guy in these parts who in his day was supremely arrogant and was known for The Look he gave teammates when he decided they were not pulling their weight. I think both just want to win.

Seismic Source

Thanks LT,

Peter just hit the stopwatch today.

Profit

I have a Hall jersey framed on my wall. He was my favourite Oiler. My last favourite was Hemsky.

I am not sure whether I should feel mad or sad. I think I will go with sad.

Subban I would have been fine with. This? I feel a bit like I did when they lost in game 7 to Carolina. A bit sick. This has been a dark 10 years.

I will put all my faith in McDavid now.

London Jon

I hate to say it, and would love to be proven wrong, but I have a horrible feeling that we realise 30 games in that hall was zooming draisatl (we know he was zooming Purcell) and that not only did we get rinsed on the hall trade but draisatl wasn’t at nearly the level last year that we think he was…

Kiltymcbagpipes

@DarrenWHaynes:

“Taylor Hall departs Edmonton 12 points back of Grant Fuhr on the Oilers all-time playoff scoring list.”

I wasn’t your biggest fan by a mile you were definitely overrated by passionate fans but you tried hard I appreciate your hard work. 15 points in the last 30 games when Chia was pondering on who to move didn’t help.

Best of luck in NJ.

Ca$h-McMoney!

A few threads ago I suggested the question was:

Hall for Larsson

vs

Nuge for Dumba

I believe that’s what it came down to (or do nothing of course).

Seismic Source

The worst part is…The Devils are further from the playoffs than we are. Hall might go this entire contract without the post season. Sorry Taylor, you were a great soldier.

OilClog

about 3 rebuilds away from finally have a dead heart to all this.

this is a terrible trade by an experienced GM

Where hope once was is now, load him into a cannonball, fire him, drag cannonball to landed spot, load him again.

Where’s Tambi? Ahhhhh emotions

HugThePost

Seismic Source:
The worst part is…The Devils are further from the playoffs than we are. Hall might go this entire contract without the post season. Sorry Taylor, you were a great soldier.

It will be kind of sad if Hall ends up like Iginla and Smytty—-a great individual player, perhaps an admirable international career, but zero playoff success and zero Cups— and he spends the back 9 of his career trying to guess which team has the best chance of winning a Cup and tries to join them.

In any event, there is a reasonable chance at that time, we will still be re-building here.

Jethro Tull

Gord Miller @GMillerTSN 15m

Bottom line on the Subban trade, from an NHL GM: “If you think Subban is one of the 15 best D-men in the NHL, it’s a bad deal. I don’t.”

Just to put into context some of the tweets citing ‘NHL execs’ today. Absolutely impossible to verify.

Like when I was told earlier today that Klef got his infection from a tattoo he got whilst out injured with his hand.

Extend Russell

Look in the bright side. At least we won’t have to look at his resting bitch face on the bench anymore.

HugThePost

which team’s fans are sadder today: Oilers or Habs?

Kris11

I said long gone, like a turkey through the corn, with his long johns on. I said the return would be low; Never have I been so sad to guess/intuit (lucky guess, and what lots of people saw) correctly.

That said. I never had an emotional “fan” connection to Hall. I’m not sure why. I suppose I hoped he would put the team on his back and carry them to the playoffs. It’s not his fault -not at all- that this never happened, but that is how my heart feels about Hall. He failed me.

My head says he was an excellent player and met all of the high expectations, but my heart disagrees.

Truth

Seismic Source:
The worst part is…The Devils are further from the playoffs than we are. Hall might go this entire contract without the post season. Sorry Taylor, you were a great soldier.

You could argue that this leveled the two teams’ odds on a race to the playoffs. Oilers worse off now than few hours ago, no doubt about it.

saddleblazer

Taylor Hall’s great great grandfather went over the top and single handedly won the battle of Vimy Ridge. During peace time, he went on to invent the chesterfield. Taylor’s great grandfather was stationed in London and reverse engineered V2s WITH HIS BARE HANDS during the 2nd blitz, put a moistened finger to the wind, and sent Lancasters to no fewer than 4 launch sites in France and Belgium. Taylor Hall’s grand father ignited the sexual revolution by raising a single eyebrow. Taylor’s dad is a terrific golfer and an even better tipper. His maternal bloodline is even more impressive. I once saw taylor hall lick his elbow while conducting a moderately prestigious symphony orchestra.

Hyperbole aside, he will be missed. Sail on.

Aeodhagan

I’ve honestly runs out of swears, curses, slanders and names to call Chiarelli at this time. If the plan truly was to build a contender this year, how can this move be justified in any way? Even with a top 4 of:
KBomb/Larssen
Sekera/Demers

This still does not look like a d core that can make a deep playoff run, nor even make the playoffs imo. And all this for what? PC’s gotta have his golden thug, at all costs, even if it means selling Hall for peanuts.

God I feel bad for Adam Larssen

Godspeed Taylor, you deserve better than this shitty org. anyway.

PC and Katz, you’ve made this team a joke.

Kris11

Hall might suffer in NJ, too. We’ll see.

lynn

Seismic Source:
Sad Fucking Day.

It is sad that Edmonton is saying good-bye to a good player. I like Adam Larsson, though.

It is sad that Pete Chiarelli took the GM position in Edmonton with Katz keeping his friends employed in the background, making it easier for Chiarelli to be second-guessed.

After ten years of missing the playoffs, everyone knew that change was coming. Hall moving on is the beginning. The Steve Austin days in Edmonton are over.

Jon K

HugThePost:
which team’s fans are sadder today:Oilers or Habs?

I know which fans should be sadder. The Habs just traded Subban for no apparent reason. Chiarelli at least has a reasonable rationale.

Truth

HugThePost:
which team’s fans are sadder today:Oilers or Habs?

Subban>Hall>Weber>>>>>>>Larsson, all things considered, IMO. I’d say Weber for Larsson would be a a win for whoever received Weber. Subban for Hall would be a win for whoever received Subban, Hall for Weber would be a win for whoever received Hall. and Subban for Larsson is slightly more laughable than our current situation.

Kris11

Also, there is no doubt this is a terrible trade.

The best upside is Larsson’s contract if he is a top pairing D. Let us pray.

Rondo

Larsson is a # 3 Dman with potential for top pairing. Hall is a #1 winger and a top 5 left-winger in the league.

Time will tell. Chia didn’t make the trade for today he made it for tomorrow.

RexLibris

Lowetide –

Thank you.

To a large portion of the fan base, now falls to you a very unpleasant burden.

You’ve kept many of us glued together through some incredibly dark days, and I know without a doubt that there are many more who visit but never give voice who have come to rely on your words to cope.

I will cheer for Taylor Hall. Always. He is the kind of hockey player I want more of, not less.

I’m not certain I’ll be able to forgive the team this decision.

We forgave them Gretzky because we all knew that the game had changed.

This is different. This feels like a betrayal.

The organization now has a significant deficit in fan trust to overcome.

Pajamah

Truth: You could argue that this leveled the two teams’ odds on a race to the playoffs.Oilers worse off now than few hours ago, no doubt about it.

There is tons of doubt about it.

I love Taylor Hall as a player, but to say a #1D man doesn’t make this team more competitive is asinine.

I know people want to gnash their teeth over the trading of a great player. I myself am not happy about it, but Larsson is a very good defenseman. He is better than anyone we have. He is better than Petry. He moves the dial on the back end from garbage to somewhat competitive league wide.

The Oilers needed health, a #1D man.

They got 1 of those things today. A healthy Oiler team this season likely makes the playoffs.

Kris11

Finally, it seems clear the organization did not like Hall off the ice and on the bench. No idea why. Probaby the organization’s fault. But it seems true. Just a guess.

David

I’m a massive Hall fan, have been since his first game as an Oiler. He got me through the past dark years of being an Oiler fan. Him not being an Oiler makes me feel a little sick and I feel for him as he has to uproot and move when it sounds like he wanted to stay.

That being said I think all this outrage is extremely premature. There is a reasonable chance this trade turns out to be decent. People suggesting Larsson is an average second pairing defenseman or not much better than Demers need to give their head a shake.

At this moment I wouldn’t call the trade horrible. Maybe give it a C+ with the chance for it to work out. I think it is reasonable that Larsson will be great. Wait and see.

p3rsonman

Profit,

Are you me?

Sad day today. I need to grieve (not sarcasm)

Pajamah

Truth: Subban>Hall>Weber>>>>>>>Larsson, all things considered, IMO. I’d say Weber for Larsson would be a a win for whoever received Weber.Subban for Hall would be a win for whoever received Subban, Hall for Weber would be a win for whoever received Hall.and Subban for Larsson is slightly more laughable than our current situation.

Actually

Subban>Hall>Larsson>Weber

And it isn’t close. Larsson is the better player and asset now, at 23, than Weber. It will only get better.

Bismarck

Alright, nobody panic. We can still win this thing. Package Larsson with a 2017 1st round pick, 2018 2nd round pick and Yakupov and trade to NJ for Taylor Hall. We win that trade, hands down!

stephen sheps

RexLibris:
Lowetide –

Thank you.

To a large portion of the fan base, now falls to you a very unpleasant burden.

You’ve kept many of us glued together through some incredibly dark days, and I know without a doubt that there are many more who visit but never give voice who have come to rely on your words to cope.

I will cheer for Taylor Hall. Always. He is the kind of hockey player I want more of, not less.

I’m not certain I’ll be able to forgive the team this decision.

We forgave them Gretzky because we all knew that the game had changed.

This is different. This feels like a betrayal.

The organization now has a significant deficit in fan trust to overcome.

quoted because it bears repeating.

not a word out of place, rex.

thank you for that.

and thank you LT for keeping us going through the darkness.

Shizuka

Well… unhappy to see this return. Even as a ‘not in Hall’s camp’ guy, I am sad to see all the promise end so bitterly like this. Chiarelli has shortened the length of rope he had significantly. If he moves RNH for anything less than proper, equivalent and fair value he should get shitcanned, ASAP. This is a franchise defining move, that could frankly go either way.

Lucic had better be in the bag for this to make *any* kind of sense. Ridiculous to think Chiarelli has now moved both Seguin and Hall. I am getting angry just typing all of this. Unreal, but in LT’s father’s wisdom… swallow down the anger and get on with it.

I really, really feel sorry for Larsson because he will unfairly, unjustly have to bear the brunt of the optics on this trade, and be viewed through the prism of ‘this is the player we traded for Hall’. Sad to see this day, even if I felt it was definitely coming. I am glad we have a place like this to commiserate.

"Steve Smith"

stephen sheps: and thank you LT for keeping us going through the darkness.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: fuck you for keeping me interested in this team, LT.

Pajamah

Bismarck:
Alright, nobody panic.We can still win this thing.Package Larsson with a 2017 1st round pick, 2018 2nd round pick and Yakupov and trade to NJ for Taylor Hall.We win that trade, hands down!

We can always hope GM Darryl Katz Jr signs 30 yr old 2 time Stanley Cup champion Taylor Hall in 2020.

Dicky94

So if Hall gets us Larsson, what in the hell does Yak get us? Scary stuff!

Oil2Oilers

“Steve Smith”:
I’m not as upset about this trade as I thought I’d be.Not because I think it’s an okay trade – it manifestly is not.I’m just not that upset about it.Perhaps I already gave up on this team without noticing.

Agreed, I can’t even be bitter about the Boys On the Bus still steering the Ship in the Jet age. Conditioned to failure.

bobinyvr

Seems to me that Chia has bet on RNH (and Larson … and Lucic) rather than Hall.

This may work out, but it’s a very high price to pay.