SEVEN YEAR ACHE

by Lowetide

All spring, we talked about needs, possible assets out and adding help on defense. We had it surrounded (Taylor Hall was No. 4 on my assets list) but it was so very difficult to identify the actual assets out—probably because it depended on the ask. At the very beginning, we agreed PC would make his list, find out who was out there, and then check down to what he considered acceptable. As it turned out, that is exactly what happened, meaning we predicted it—and it still produced shock and argh.

This morning, I think we can safely say one thing: We are witnessing the increased value, in real time, of actual NHL right-handed defensemen.

Adam Larsson is a good young NHL RHD. There are good things in his resume, and he addresses a major need. I am looking forward to seeing him in an Oilers uniform this fall. Some positives from the Todd Cordell post from yesterday:

  • Of the four Devils’ blue liners to play more than 1,000 minutes at 5 v 5 last season none allowed fewer shot attempts against per 60 minutes than Larsson despite playing heavy defensive minutes against the league’s top players.
  • Larsson is actually a very underrated puck mover. For the most part his outlets are accurate and over the last two seasons he is tied with Hampus Lindholm, Sami Vatanen, Kris Letang, Aaron Ekblad and Matt Niskanen with .31 primary assists per 60 minutes of 5 v 5.
  • As mentioned his shot suppression numbers have been fantastic despite playing in a division where he goes up against Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Alex Ovechkin, Claude Giroux and co. more than any other players. He can handle tough competition, he can handle big minutes and his offensive game is probably better than he’s given credit for.

larsson capture

THE CHIARELLI LIST

  1. Top-pairing RHD (Two-way skills—Adam Larsson)
  2. Second-pairing RHD (Offensive defenseman)
  3. Acquire RHC with some skill
  4. Backup goalie
  5. Added now and not No. 5—Find a replacement for Taylor Hall

I am pleased Chiarelli checked off the No. 1 need on the list, but of course the payment was shocking. Make no mistake, Adam Larsson is a good NHL defender who is young, under a good contract and likely to help beginning this fall. The list grew from four to five because of the Hall deal.

THE CHIARELLI EXTENDED PLAY LIST

  1. Add a “Pisani” who can mentor, score 15, and play a two-way role up and down the lineup.
  2. Re-stock the shelves via the draft (Puljujarvi and the entire draft)
  3. Improve overall team speed (Puljujarvi)
  4. Offload Lauri Korpikoski.
  5. Improve goaltending depth (added Nick Ellis, but not much in draft).
  6. Improve AHL quality (Caggiula, Russell, Ellis, but more is needed).
  7. Cull the LHD herd (have, in fact, added to the LHD group).

Two tasks have been addressed and that is progress. I imagine he will run through several in the next few days—although getting the second NHL blue seems a difficult task. We could see a Lauri Korpikoski buyout today, although it is far from a certainty. I wonder if the Oilers will consider Korpikoski as a potential mentor and guide for Jesse Puljujarvi this coming season (Iiro Pakarinen also available at the NHL level, Jere Sallinen and Eetu Laurikainen in Bakersfield).

THE ASSETS LIST

  1. Cap space*
  2. Nail Yakupov
  3. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
  4. Taylor Hall
  5. Jordan Eberle
  6. Benoit Pouliot
  7. Mark Fayne
  8. Griffin Reinhart
  9. 2017 1st round selection

In the end, I had him at No. 4, but in truth the $6 million dollar men were apparently all in play—and could still be in play, depending on how aggressive PC plans to get this summer. Trading Hall means unicorn talk will have to wait, depending on how quickly Jesse Puljujarvi can establish himself, the healthy of Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and the addition of Milan Lucic in free agency.

cagguila

Drake Caggiula may play in the NHL at some point in 2016-17

OILERS CURRENT ROSTER

OILERS ROSTER WITH LARSSENOne suspects the Larsson acquisition is the big play of summer, along with Milan Lucic being signed tomorrow. After that, grab an inexpensive defensive option, a backup goalie and hit cottage country by American Independence Day. That second defensive option could prove important, hope the team chooses well. Would they consider another trade? I assume Jason Demers is not part of Edmonton’s future, based on the Larsson trade. Do you agree?

https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/748267100234383360

  • Jason Gregor: Darren Dreger mentioned on radio Lucic might be getting a seven-year deal from the Oilers. Yikes. If you thought people were angry today, wait until Friday if a seven year deal is announced. Source

I cannot believe the Oilers would have traded Hall without knowing Lucic was a lock to make the team. Perhaps I have misread the situation. If Lucic does not arrive tomorrow, we will be having a long conversation about the offense this winter.

CURRENT 50-MAN (42)

42-MAN LIST

WAITING

  1. R Jesse Puljujarvi, this should happen in the coming days. 2016 draft
  2. D Ethan Bear. Also Bob, looks imminent. 2015 draft
  3. R Adam Cracknell, I could see him signing back mid-July. UFA.
  4. D Adam Pardy. At least worth a conversation. UFA.
  5. D Eric Gryba, without a Fayne trade, return seems unlikely. UFA.
  6. D Nikita Nikitin, rumored to be signing with Omsk. UFA
  7. D Brad Hunt, he is such a good AHL player. UFA.
  8. L Josh Winquist, interesting to see where he lands. UFA.
  9. C Marco Roy. AHL contract seems likely. UFA.
  10. R Andrew Miller. The loan trade likely signaled his exit. UFA.

USE YOUR BRAIN FOR MORE THAN A HAT RACK

I think we can all agree that Peter Chiarelli overpaid for Adam Larsson. That said, I hope we can move past the trade and talk about Larsson and his considerable skills. You may feel that is unkind, but for me spending more time discussing the trade means we are dwelling on things we cannot control—and basically wallowing in our own misery. In my life, I have learned it is not productive to spend a lot of time in that place. You may feel it harsh, but that will be the mindset of this blog moving forward. It is sad. It is done. We move on.

LOWETIDE RANKING 2011 DRAFT

  • No. 3 overall—Adam Larsson. I’ve been back and forth with Larsson all year, but believe this is the best place to slot him. The evidence is overwhelming now, he played against men in the SEL, played well and did it against good hockey players at the most important times in his club’s season. An outstanding NHL prospect. Source

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy, fun show today, TSN1260 at 10 this morning. Scheduled to appear:

  • Darcy McLeod, Because Oilers. Darcy’s look at RHD this spring showed Larsson as a bona fide option—a very good one, in truth. We will discuss Larsson and the trade.
  • Andy Wigston, The Brick Invitational. The most amazing tournament with the most incredible history is on again July 4-10. We will talk about it with Andy, and you can catch information here.
  • Todd Cordell, Hockeybuzz. Todd helped us through tough moments yesterday with his verbal, and we will touch base this morning live in regard to Adam Larsson
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. What a crazy 30 minutes yesterday. Frank will put everything in perspective.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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Dominoiler

I know it’s a dead thread, but, just sayin..

Dominoiler

Kmart99:
‘WG has Larsson as the 5th best RHD in the league. He might not be wrong.’

..

How about 5th ranked RHD at Ev strength in the league, and 180th ranked PP dman overall?
Seems accurate atm.

Ease up on the details, previous, team relative, numbers, he is a serious upgrade on ‘just mark fayne’ for RHD, he’ll get more opportunity here..

Plus, 5th best at 5v5, awesome!

Dominoiler

Had to stop reading, LT, I’m sure others have said it too, you’ve had Demers surrounded for so long and may be on the cusp of getting your wish.. and we could be on our way to actually having a top 4, without over exposing youth to top 4 (nurse).. but who am I kidding, Klef Larsson.. kinda interesting that the top 2 would be making less than the 3-4s.. for many years..

Anyways, Lucic/Demers, I’m getting used to the idea..

Woodguy

Kmart99:
‘WG has Larsson as the 5th best RHD in the league. He might not be wrong.’

Does he?

If so, then the oilers traded the 5th best LW (imo)for the 5th best RHD at a discount price.If Larsson really was/is the 5th best RHD in the league, then NJ got fleeced.

The truth is there’s no way Larsson is the 5th best RHD in the league.The only argument that makes sense is if you are only looking at EV TOI.
The moment you factor in the PP and the lack of value there, his ranking drops drastically.

How about 5th ranked RHD at Ev strength in the league, and 180th ranked PP dman overall?
Seems accurate atm.

Fair.

I never account for special teams as 90% of the game is played 5v5 and the best 5v4 units I’ve ever seen had 5 forwards.

Woodguy

“Steve Smith”: No problem.Who are you, again?

Much like Zapped Bebebrox, I’m just this guy, you know.

maudite

Jones cost 1.3 million per season more than Larsson.

Yes hall is on a good contract but so is Larsson. I would say Larsson relative to comparables is actually on a bit better of contract.

Hall had 3 more years under control to Larsson’s 5?

Defense and center then wing. McDavid at 9 mil+ in 2 years and hall probably 8 mil+ a year later (rnh and Eberle contracts as well).

It hurts like hell but realigning the team to have defense older than McDavid with some value years left on contracts probably better in longer run.

maudite

I think I’m okay with the deal.

What else would you need add to nugent plus say a 2nd round pick to Jersey for hall?

I wouldn’t trade Larsson for Jones but many would have been okay with nuge+ for Jones…

Cameron
Cameron

Chachi: I thought he was not qualified in order to avoid arbitration, but the idea was still for him to re-sign with the flames.

I think Flames mgt really like him (he is; big, a local boy, and possesses some really skilled hands), but he’s not worth what he’ll command on the open market. I wouldnt be surprised if he re-signs with Cgy, but his role is that of a third/4th line complimentary winger, not a 3C.

I also have to point out just how absurd his usage was over the last half of the season too, he was gifted oodles of PP time with little effect, and then after blowing chunks for most of the year in his last 20 games he went off and scored 22 points, essentially doubling his production up to that point.

His underlying numbers are real garbage, so if he’s on your wish list, be careful what you wish for!

Kmart99

‘WG has Larsson as the 5th best RHD in the league. He might not be wrong.’

Does he?

If so, then the oilers traded the 5th best LW (imo)for the 5th best RHD at a discount price. If Larsson really was/is the 5th best RHD in the league, then NJ got fleeced.

The truth is there’s no way Larsson is the 5th best RHD in the league. The only argument that makes sense is if you are only looking at EV TOI.
The moment you factor in the PP and the lack of value there, his ranking drops drastically.

How about 5th ranked RHD at Ev strength in the league, and 180th ranked PP dman overall?
Seems accurate atm.

Chachi

“Steve Smith”: I think the last time was just before the Dustin Penner offer-sheet, when it looked like we were going to try a sixty-three year old Geoff Sanderson in that slot..

Ah, the glory days!

stephen sheps

“Steve Smith”: “This is Bruce Berry.One of the stereotypical hairy-assed working men we used to see around Maidstone, he’d load that Econoline van like it was going out of style.Music!”

He was like a hurricane in his own way. A calm in his eyes as he blew past the defender.

A bit to on the nose? Probably. Like I said, I should have quit after my first post of the day.

Yours was brilliant. Dark but brilliant.

Now I have to listen to that record.

Chachi

Cameron: Colborne’s usefulness two years ago was a 3rd/4th line RW who absolutely killed it in the shootout, while bleeding possession at even strength like he’d been gut shot. Last year his usefulness in the shootout vanished as the Flames won/lost games during 3-on-3, and rarely made it to the skills competition. He did go crazy over the last 20 games scoring roughly half his points in that span, albeit when Cgy was well out of competing for a playoff spot.

All of which is me saying that if you want a big (6’5″) skill winger (he was even worse at C) who gets killed in possession metrics, for over $3.5M a year, than Colborne is your guy.

There is a reason ‘Big Local’ wasn’t qualified by Treliving.

I thought he was not qualified in order to avoid arbitration, but the idea was still for him to re-sign with the flames.

"Steve Smith"

stephen sheps:
“Steve Smith”,

Hmmm. I wonder what that would look like.

“This is Bruce Berry. One of the stereotypical hairy-assed working men we used to see around Maidstone, he’d load that Econoline van like it was going out of style. Music!”

stephen sheps

“Steve Smith”,

Hmmm. I wonder what that would look like.

Woodguy?

Could be fun for a minute. Maybe LT will let me on the radio too 😉

kashirat

Woodguy,

Agree, I really enjoyed what I heard too. I could really get behind a regular Lowetide/Woodguy podcast ala Dan Tencer’s podcast (the format, not the content!)

"Steve Smith"

stephen sheps,

As I said yesterday, the Hall trade has probably set this blog on the road towards being about Neil Young, with each post titled after a current or former Oiler, for thematic reasons. So I’d say that you and I are pretty well-situated to become superstar commenters.

stephen sheps

Drew,

thanks.

I seem to have 1 good post in me every two weeks or so, interspersed with inane drivel about Neil Young, alcohol and things I wish I had said.

maybe I should be more like my TV analogue George Costanza and just walk away before I inevitably say something dumb.

Cameron

Woogie63:
If Nuge goes for a dman,would Joe Colburnebe a good 3rd line centre?

Colborne’s usefulness two years ago was a 3rd/4th line RW who absolutely killed it in the shootout, while bleeding possession at even strength like he’d been gut shot. Last year his usefulness in the shootout vanished as the Flames won/lost games during 3-on-3, and rarely made it to the skills competition. He did go crazy over the last 20 games scoring roughly half his points in that span, albeit when Cgy was well out of competing for a playoff spot.

All of which is me saying that if you want a big (6’5″) skill winger (he was even worse at C) who gets killed in possession metrics, for over $3.5M a year, than Colborne is your guy.

There is a reason ‘Big Local’ wasn’t qualified by Treliving.

HenryDrix

PaperDesigner,

We will see in one year.

stephen sheps

LadiesloveSmid,

Ladd visited the Isles today, so that is indeed a possibility. Could be a solid fit there.

I really hadn’t thought of any of the UFA wingers because until yesterday the Oilers had no shortage of top level LWs.

Strange times.

Bling

I think we can agree that Larsson is pretty elite on the defensive side, correct?

The question is finding some comps for his offence. He doesn’t play much on the PP at all, so I tried to find some comps for his EV scoring. The numbers below are for age 22 seasons, followed by age 23 seasons. Numbers from hockey-reference.com.

EV scoring (P/60):

Adam Larsson

Age 22/23: 1.1/0.7

Roman Josi

Age 22/23: 0.7/1.1

Ryan Ellis

Age 22/23: 0.5/1.1

Ekman-Larsson

Age 22/23: 0.9/0.9

Subban

Age 22/23: 0.9/1.0

Hedman

Age 22/23: 1.4/1.6 (!!!!)

Larsson stacks up pretty well here (the last two seasons), despite playing on the worst EV scoring team in the league last season and playing very heavy minutes with severe zone starts.

He looks positively Superman-ish, all things considered, no?

Now, the big guys above (Josi, Subban, etc.) all took big steps forward in their age 24 seasons. So we’ll see.

WG has Larsson as the 5th best RD in the league. He might not be wrong.

LadiesloveSmid

stephen sheps: Andrew Ladd?
Hmm… I hadn’t thought about him as a fallback if Lucic doesn’t sign. That could be quite good, depending on the term. He would be a fine 2LW on a 3 year deal. But I doubt he would sign in Edmonton.

I hadn’t really considered him either. He seems like a guy that’ll sign in Anaheim to me, maybe the islanders. He’s 2.5 years older than Lucic, maybe he takes less term and dollars. His shot rate hasn’t really declined, possession metrics down after a meh season. Is it from age or missing Little or what. Could be a good fit with McDavid as a strong forechecker that can really shoot and skate.

Tapdog

God Gord….. I just realized that Barrie wears the #4 as well……..Now the Hall trade makes sense….

"Steve Smith"

thepeetso: Thats really terrifying isn’t it . . . From any angle . . . but given the cicumstances, I’d sign Lucic.

I think I go the opposite route. As a back-up, we could probably get that fire hydrant who scored forty goals playing with Gretzky to slide in on McDavid’s left-wing. It’s not ideal, though.

stephen sheps

LadiesloveSmid: do you see if Perron comes back, if Ladd would be interested? 1LW feels like it hasn’t been a problem in an eternity.

Andrew Ladd?
Hmm… I hadn’t thought about him as a fallback if Lucic doesn’t sign. That could be quite good, depending on the term. He would be a fine 2LW on a 3 year deal. But I doubt he would sign in Edmonton.

"Steve Smith"

Woodguy: Thanks for the kind words all.

No problem. Who are you, again?

thepeetso

stevezie:
Here’s a reverse Sophie’s choice for ya: what will be a bigger disaster, signing lucic to a long and terrible contract (7×6.5), or not signing him at all?

Thats really terrifying isn’t it . . . From any angle . . . but given the cicumstances, I’d sign Lucic.

Woodguy

Bruce McCurdy: WG on LT’s show is always good.

Love you too baby!

Thanks for the kind words all.

stephen sheps

“Steve Smith”:
stephen sheps,

Huh – we’re the same age.In my head, you were substantially older than I was; I guess you’re just more accomplished.

says the lawyer to the soon-to-be-unemployed professor!

(I’m hardly accomplished, I just have a few fancy letters I can put behind my name to trick people into thinking I don’t suck)

"Steve Smith"

LadiesloveSmid: do you see if Perron comes back, if Ladd would be interested? 1LW feels like it hasn’t been a problem in an eternity.

I think the last time was just before the Dustin Penner offer-sheet, when it looked like we were going to try a sixty-three year old Geoff Sanderson in that slot..

LadiesloveSmid

stevezie:
Here’s a reverse Sophie’s choice for ya: what will be a bigger disaster, signing lucic to a long and terrible contract (7×6.5), or not signing him at all?

do you see if Perron comes back, if Ladd would be interested? 1LW feels like it hasn’t been a problem in an eternity.

"Steve Smith"

stephen sheps,

Huh – we’re the same age. In my head, you were substantially older than I was; I guess you’re just more accomplished.

stephen sheps

khildahl: That’s an odd way to say “Saskatchewanite”.

Shut your whore mouth!

While I do have a strange affection for the city of Saskatoon (and Meadow Lake provincial park is an under-rated gem of the prairies), I am Edmonton born and raised and lived there for 25 of my 34 years.

thepeetso:

If only pils were still cheap I’d go on drinking them, but for now its Rainier (or Lucky in a bind)

Ok, so I’ve been living in the US for a year, but last summer they were still cheap enough in Onterrible that vitamin P remained my bad beer of choice.

$1.99/tall can is cheap for Ontario

thepeetso

stephen sheps: Gold Ricki, Gold!

(Also, as sad as this may be to admit, I miss Pilsner… Best label in Canada by far, drinkable and cheap)

Except Pilsner is no longer cheap, its priced the same as Kokanee, Canadian, etc.

Vitamin R is still by far has the best cost to taste of all the bubbly yellow piss beers.

If only pils were still cheap I’d go on drinking them, but for now its Rainier (or Lucky in a bind)

Gerta Rauss

Ducey: I know nothing about him, but he played 56 games three years ago, 13 games two years ago, and 1 game last year.

I would guess he is broken.

Not to nitpick, but those splits are from when he got traded mid season. I think his totals the last 3 seasons 75,69 and 1 last year, and it might be hyperbole but I think he tore his knee up on his first shift last year.

He’s a nice player if/when he’s healthy, but that is a big IF I’ll give you that

*edit-nevermind

stephen sheps

“Steve Smith”: Not sad at all, just brutally stereotypical, you left-wing, western Canadian, Pil-swilling philosophy-type.

Well played. Exceptionally well played.

I would rather be that sort of stereotype than some of the others that I’ve been accused of being over the years.

khildahl

“Steve Smith”: Not sad at all, just brutally stereotypical, you left-wing, western Canadian, Pil-swilling philosophy-type.

That’s an odd way to say “Saskatchewanite”.

"Steve Smith"

stevezie,

Unless I’m missing something, that’s the same reverse Sophie’s choice that Chachi was talking about.

stevezie

Here’s a reverse Sophie’s choice for ya: what will be a bigger disaster, signing lucic to a long and terrible contract (7×6.5), or not signing him at all?

"Steve Smith"

stephen sheps: Also, as sad as this may be to admit, I miss Pilsner…

Not sad at all, just brutally stereotypical, you left-wing, western Canadian, Pil-swilling philosophy-type.

LadiesloveSmid

Ducey: I know nothing about him, but he played 56 games three years ago, 13 games two years ago, and 1 game last year.

I would guess he is broken.

people keep making this mistake, he played 69 games two years ago not 56 then 13. Also was healthy scratched multiple times by Anaheim in favour of Clayton Stoner. Big injury history, but wouldn’t be available for dirt if he didn’t. I honestly imagine NJ signs him

stephen sheps

rickithebear:
I laughed my ass when Oates talked about Larsson “lacks inner confidence.”

I can be his spirit guide and takehim to Ironhead
-drink a 24 of pil
-40 lber of Jack.
– tramp around the bush for an hour
– take him to the upper floors of sundance 5 boilers for 1hr of his own sweat lodge.
he wil find his inner BEAR!

He was coached by one of the best HSCA d in history!

Gold Ricki, Gold!

(Also, as sad as this may be to admit, I miss Pilsner… Best label in Canada by far, drinkable and cheap)

Drew

khildahl: My stance on this is still changing every few minutes.I’m going to sharpen my pitchfork tonight, but will hold off on lighting any torches until tomorrow morning.

almost threw myself on a sword last night… still might if drink to much tonight…

Drew

stephen sheps: “Steve Smith”

I often agree with you (and Bag of Pucks, and Ducey and even that Bookje fellow once in a while). The hurt today is just as strong as yesterday, but the direction of the hurt has changed. I too do not wish to see my status quo unsettled any further. I am trying to pack to move back to Toronto from Tennessee and that is stressful enough on its own. The Oilers shouldn’t be adding to my stress in the summer – that’s a winter problem.

I actually don’t begrudge Chiarelli for making this sort of move – one of the Austins had to go and the team filled a major need. RHD is a major currency and you have to give to get. I still think it was a massive overpay and that Hall should not have been the trading chip, but here we are. And it’s pretty awful. 10 years of failure has brought us all to this. I hope that Nuge stays and that PC is smart enough to see exactly what he has with 3 potential top shelf Centres and the roster flexibility that 3 centres provides.

My hurt & anger is directed in 2 places:

1) The previous 3 management teams (by which I mean the 3 headed monster known as 6 rings, Mr. Dithers and the Silver Fox/Helmetless wonder) that disassembled the once proud organization and thought they could rebuild it by running counter to the drafting tactics and underlying direction the rest of the league was going, by not recognizing that good teams are built from the net out rather than from the wings, by not making smart choices to actually surround the two cores full of promise (the Gagner rebuild and the original HOPE crew + Nuge) with a defence and even league average goaltending, for trading away the few good pieces for magic bullets and not replacing those few good pieces with even comparable good pieces. And finally for having the arrogance to continually trot out members of the glory days to keep the 3rd tier fans so drunk on nostalgia that it seemed as though the three amigos could always keep telling themselves that they were the smartest men in the room (or at the very least Lowe and MacT could while Tambi nodded mutely and Howson cooked the books). These are the people I am mad at and the reason why today, the morning after I still feel like I’ve been punched in the gut. These were the people that let it get so bad that the new guy felt he had no choice but to trade Taylor Hall to rebalance the team. It should not have come to this.

2) The people who keep trying to assassinate Taylor Hall’s character. Please find a new place to post. HF Boards is pretty sweet I hear. So’s r/oilers. Thankfully those comments haven’t been as prevalent today, but all of you can kindly take your uninformed opinions and broadcast them on twitter or whatever the sports equivalent to TMZ is. Those types of comments, as our host (and sometimes internet Dad) reminds us, are not welcome here. Personal attacks on the players’ characters are like Politics – verboten.

The reality here is that it never should have come to trading Hall, especially not like this, P.C. obviously does not come away looking particularly good, but Larsson will help the team get better in the long run, and the hope is that what happens over the next few days allows the Oilers to become a better, more complete, competitive and balanced team, not just during McDavid’s ELC but over the long haul. Sustainability and consistency are byproducts of balance. I really hope P.C. knows what he’s doing.

well said Sheps, well said.

"Steve Smith"

rickithebear:
I laughed my ass when Oates talked about Larsson “lacks inner confidence.”

I can be his spirit guide and takehim to Ironhead
-drink a 24 of pil
-40 lber of Jack.
– tramp around the bush for an hour
– take him to the upper floors of sundance 5 boilers for 1hr of his own sweat lodge.
he wil find his inner BEAR!

He was coached by one of the best HSCA d in history!

As long as I’m expressing my agreement with BoP, I should add that I loved your post too, Ricki.

Soon cats will live among dogs.

fanaddict

Because, awesome.

rickithebear:
I laughed my ass when Oates talked about Larsson “lacks inner confidence.”

I can be his spirit guide and takehim to Ironhead
-drink a 24 of pil
-40 lber of Jack.
– tramp around the bush for an hour
– take him to the upper floors of sundance 5 boilers for 1hr of his own sweat lodge.
he wil find his inner BEAR!

He was coached by one of the best HSCA d in history!

Drew

“Steve Smith”:
Chachi,

If you’d told me six years ago that I’d wind up liking Gregor this much, I’d never have believed you.The guy’s evolved like crazy.

yep, really like his show (as i have said for about 2 weeks now)

Chachi

“Steve Smith”:
Chachi,

If you’d told me six years ago that I’d wind up liking Gregor this much, I’d never have believed you.The guy’s evolved like crazy.

Agreed, he still has his off days, but I think he is a smart guy and understands that he needs to evolve to stay relevant. It also helps that he is unencumbered by the kind of leash that is on someone who is working for the rights holder so he can really speak the truth.

Ducey

LadiesloveSmid:
CAR takes 3.5M cap hit this year, and 1M next year. If you’re Edmonton, would you not have taken Wiz with 2M retained (3.5M) for nothing? There’s your PP guy

I know nothing about him, but he played 56 games three years ago, 13 games two years ago, and 1 game last year.

I would guess he is broken.