THERE I STAND, BENEATH THE MARQUEE MOON

by Lowetide

The Bruinization of the Edmonton Oilers continued today—in a very big way. Peter Chiarelli signed one of his trusted soldiers—a giant from the Vancouver docks—the two men welded together by the 2011 Stanley.

I have watched enough sports to see that teams can win championships more than one way—Whitey Herzog and Earl Weaver won in the same era and in different ways—and we are approaching a point where the ‘Bruins West’ are almost complete. Does this big team have enough skill? I suspect PC is not done yet, but from here it looks a little lean on RHD and RW.

OILERS CURRENT PROJECTED ROSTER AND CAP ROOM

OILERS PROJECTED ROSTER JULY 1

  • Milan Lucic is the feature presentation for this new depth chart. He is the biggest free agent signing of the modern era for the Oilers, and his cost ($6M cap hit times seven) is very big and potentially very difficult to get away from should things go sideways.
  • Lucic was brought in for this coming season and the two or three after, with the remains of the day a concern for Peter Chiarelli (or the next GM) after a period of success.
  • Taken with the trade for Adam Larsson, the team does have more balance—although the overall strength of the offense was made worse by the loss of Taylor Hall.
  • Jesse Puljujarvi will likely be signed in the coming days, and that will impact the cap and the RW portion of this depth chart. Ryan Rishaug talked with us on TSN1260 today (and tweeted) about the possibility of the young Russian returning. It is possible we see an ongoing audition for the skill jobs on the starboard for Edmonton this year. Jordan Eberle should get the McDavid job, with Nail, JP, Zack Kassian and possibly Iiro Pakarinen working for opportunities. Do not discount Drake Caggiula or Anton Slepyshev as possible solutions in this area.
  • Chiarelli said he would like to add a D who can move the puck up and help on the power play. Based on reports we have seen, it sounds like Tyson Barrie is a target and Colorado has to figure out how they would like to proceed.

The Oilers signed a backup goalie (Jonas Gustavsson) and yet another LHD (Mark Fraser) as smaller moves in free agency. Both moves are somewhat curious, but the truth is neither man is likely to have a massive impact on the year ahead. I would mark Gustavsson as slightly better than Anders Nilsson—but Laurent Brossoit should be able to win the backup job at some point in the coming season.

50-MAN LIST (44)

OIL ROSTER JULY 1

If they asked me (they won’t) I would suggest:

  • Using three of the six available signings to add Jesse Puljujarvi, Ethan Bear, Josh Winquist. It sounds like Eric Gryba is in play.
  • Signing Jason Demers now, the organization is waiting on Tyson Barrie. Signing Demers may mean using a forward on the power-play point (with, say, Klefbom), but getting Demers (at a reasonable number) makes sense to me.
  • Trading at least one LHD (among the prospects) for a RHD. Seriously. It has to be possible, and it bothers me. Seriously. I like order. This is like leaving the dishes unwashed and heading on vacation:

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Bah! That is impossible to deal with, please make it balance! And speaking of balance, Peter Chiarelli has a chance to get that so very difficult job done this summer. I will never agree with his trading of Taylor Hall, but it did put him within spitting distance of running a balanced roster this fall. If he can trade for Tyson Barrie, replace my favorite Oiler with a RHC who can play a two-way game, then we can talk about the future, a balanced team, and the playoffs. Peter Chiarelli is building this team in his own image—the Connor McDavid Oilers officially look like the Bruins team PC began building a decade ago. It would have been easier—and better—if the GM had adapted his style to the brilliant roster pieces he was gifted, but that was not to be, and we are here.

MILAN LUCIC 2015-16

  • 5×5 points per 60: 2.04
  • 5×4 points per 60: 2.83
  • Corsi For 5×5 %: 59.3 (No. 2 among regular forwards)
  • Qual Comp:  toughest among regular forwards (1line opp)
  • Qual Team: best teammates among regular forwards (top line)
  • Corsi Rel: 11.4 (No. 2 among regular forwards)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 124/16.1
  • Boxcars: 81gp, 20-35-55
  • One final note. A tremendous amount of verbal today about Milan Lucic as a player, and I have to say it is surprising. Folks, this is an excellent player, a legitimate addition to the club. Milan Lucic is a perfect fit for the Oilers fan, I hope you give him a chance this winter. He is not Taylor Hall, he is Milan Lucic—and just as Whitey Herzog and Earl Weaver won with jackrabbits or a bloop and a blast, so too can the Edmonton Oilers win with a power lineup that is complemented with speed and skill.
  • The beautiful dream died this week, I believe. You can blame Peter Chiarelli, Todd McLellan, Bob Nicholson, New Jersey, Taylor Hall, Stu MacGregor, Steve Tambellini, Dallas Eakins, the baby Jesus.
  • The Edmonton Oilers are still about gorgeous hockey, but not all of the time. There is a smash mouth feel to the roster above, dump and chase, outnumber, rugged and ugly, a full day’s work. I loved the possibilities and believe those dreams could have come true.
  • The Taylor Hall Oilers are gone. They are gone. That is a fact. Pray baby Jesus the new boy King gets more support than the last boy hero. I think that is what this week is about, and the man charged with the heavy work had an idea about this roster many of us did not share.
  • This is Peter Chiarelli’s team, now, today.
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Oilspill

When you actually possess the puck dick weed. Skate with it complete a pass win a battle to gain it. Everything up to the proxy shots possession.

Mr DeBakey: You’e been putting variations of this stupid shit for weeks.
WTF is “real possession”.
Care to bring us up to speed Mr Genius?

Professor Q

BONVIE: No I think Nuge knew how to play in the NHL, the AHL would not have helped him. Keeping guys like Penner, Hemsky, and Horcoff around to shelter these young players and trying to acquire a veteran to bump the young guys down a line, that would have helped a lot, The question was never about Nuge being an NHL caliber player rather it was about carrying the top line head to head against the Kopitars, Thornton,s, and Getzlafs, there lies the problem.

Actually, I loved the Hall-Nuge-Eberle line in the AHL. Imagine if they had stayed in Junior, and then went to the AHL to begin with?

Mr DeBakey

Oilspill: When you don’t win battles the other team gets or retains real possession. Not BS shot proxy possession but possession of the puck.

You’e been putting variations of this stupid shit for weeks.
WTF is “real possession”.
Care to bring us up to speed Mr Genius?

Bling

KT:

This team will be plenty exciting. Loads of skill up front and finally a legitimate top pairing.

The improved defence is going to help guys like Eberle, Nuge, and Yakupov flourish. For the first time since 2006 — excluding a small window last season when Klef was healthy — each pairing will have a guy who can make an outlet pass.

One more RHD please (without moving Nuge), and we can start using the B word. And maybe the P word.

Professor Q

JimmyV1965: Drai looked horrible at the Worlds.He was really an anchor on his line and played on the periphery. I’m assuming he was hurt, but the team would know that right?I’m worried that he played so poorly and wasn’t hurt. Red flags flying everywhere.

No, he didn’t. He started out looking horrible then progressed as the tournament went on. Praised by the media, even, and you know how rare that is for an Oilers player.

Oilspill

Lowetide: He is easily one of the six best defensemen on the team. Two bad contracts on D will hinder us this season.

Faynes a defensive guy who doesn’t do much on either side of the puck. He’s weak battling in corners and soft in front. When you don’t win battles the other team gets or retains real possession. Not BS shot proxy possession but possession of the puck.
russ99,

Professor Q

Wow, the Negative Nancies are out in full force today…

russ99

knighttown:
I want to comment on one of LTs recent posts about “the dream dying” and some of the comments that came back.

For those of us that have been around this place and HFBoards before it, educated Oil fans tended to have this dream of winning hockey games the Oiler way, with speed, skill and a bit of toughness. I’ve been a massive proponent and have even said that I’d rather be a fan of the Oilers through their dark period than I would be th middling Devils or Coyotes or Wildwho win a bit playing hideously ugly hockey.

I don’t want to see Dave Tippett dominate hockey games I want to see Taylor Hall do it.

When LT says the dream has died I believe this is what he means. The dream of winning a championship the Oiler way of just tipping the scales so we’re too fast and too skilled for those dastardly Kings to keep up.

While I can acknowledge that this team is better than anytime in the last decade I can still be sad that were now just like any other hockey team save Connor McDavid. The grand experiment failed.

I wish the Jets good luck in their quest.

Forget “the Oiler way”. The 80s were great, but are over and aren’t coming back.

I want the Oilers to win, and “The Oiler way” obviously doesn’t work in today’s NHL after 10 years of trying.

We need offense and defense, not just offense, and hope the goalie covers the bet, a team that all 5 men on the ice work as a team in all zones, not forwards play offense and defensemen play defense.

Since so many use the Penguins as an ideal to keep this nonsense going, did you see them or any playoff team play this way? The Pens did kill on the breakout, but that’s only because everyone defended and busted it to get the puck back.

For all the heat MacTavish justly deserves for his run calling the shots, it’s beyond odd to me that so many fans are still clinging to his failed ideal.

I knew that was done when we added Chiarelli and McLellan, and this summer is just the other shoe dropping.

Sugar Reijo

Lots of potential fall back options out there for more offensive-minded defenceman. With the expansion draft I’m not sure the smarter move isn’t to go with a shorter term solution (Wisnieswski, say, or even a guy like Wideman) who doesn’t lose you RNH. That way you give some cover to McD and Drai and don’t expose yourself to losing a big piece on the backend to Vegas.

Chia’s right about waiting for the dust to settle.

Ice Sage

knighttown:
Time to check in on the Pensification of the roster. They won this Cup for two reasons; they had a driver on lines 1 and 2 that were able to carry inferior players to +55% possession against the other teams bests and 2) were able to load up a 3rd line that tore apart the soft underbelly that nearly every NHL team exposes…the 3rd pairing.

To do this you need:
1. Two absolute possession monsters (Crosby and Malkin)
2. Two hard nosed possession wingers with some skill (Kunitz and Hornquist)
3. Two mid-twenties speedy robots who will do exactly what the coach wants and will do it for dirt cheap (Rust and Sheary)
4. A lethal 3rd line designed to expose other teams underbelly that should contain one one-shot scorer (Kessel)

This discounts the Letang effect which was Huge but let’s just deal with the forwards

Where do the oilers sit?
1. Possession monsters?1 of 2 in McDavid…traded the other)
2. Hard nosed possession wingers (Lucic and Pouliot)
3. Cheap mid-twenties robots (Pakarinen)
4. Lethal 3rd line including a one-shot scorer (Eberle)

It seems like we’re only missing that second driver and one mid-twenties cheap robot.You can’t just produce another Hall so we need to a) give McDavid less support and hope he can still drive and b) load up a line of solid possession players and hope they can get to +55% without a true driver.

If you fail to approach that number you aren’t dominant enough to ensure the opposing coach doesn’t flip things and put their big line out against the lethal 3rd line which probably would be exposed.

Pouliot-McDavid-Pakarinen
Lucic-RNH- ?
Maroon- Draisatl -Eberle

For the question mark I’m suggesting the Oilers send from their leftorium for a good possession RW. Joonus Donskoi or Matt Read but produced about +100 in Corsi events for top 10 in the NHL. Would Reinhart plus a second get Donskoi? Read or Craig Smith would fit well here too.

Lucic-RNH-Donskoi

I’d guess neither the McDavid line nor the Nuge line could get to 55% yet but with the improved D I think they can beat 50. That “kill line” is ready to do its job but could be exposed on the road.

Progress towards Unicorns ripping under bellies.

Great analysis, KT.
My only quibble would be that Pitts dominant players are both centres and inherently more influential.
That ? spot shouldn’t be hard to fill, maybe even internally (Khaira, Slepyshev, Yakimov, etc.) and this new JP kid looks versatile (and big) enough that he could take on a few of these roles in a few years.
I, too, miss the ‘dream of speed’, not to mention stay-at-home D and stand-up goalies!

knighttown

I want to comment on one of LTs recent posts about “the dream dying” and some of the comments that came back.

For those of us that have been around this place and HFBoards before it, educated Oil fans tended to have this dream of winning hockey games the Oiler way, with speed, skill and a bit of toughness. I’ve been a massive proponent and have even said that I’d rather be a fan of the Oilers through their dark period than I would be th middling Devils or Coyotes or Wild who win a bit playing hideously ugly hockey.

I don’t want to see Dave Tippett dominate hockey games I want to see Taylor Hall do it.

When LT says the dream has died I believe this is what he means. The dream of winning a championship the Oiler way of just tipping the scales so we’re too fast and too skilled for those dastardly Kings to keep up.

While I can acknowledge that this team is better than anytime in the last decade I can still be sad that were now just like any other hockey team save Connor McDavid. The grand experiment failed.

I wish the Jets good luck in their quest.

knighttown

Time to check in on the Pensification of the roster. They won this Cup for two reasons; they had a driver on lines 1 and 2 that were able to carry inferior players to +55% possession against the other teams bests and 2) were able to load up a 3rd line that tore apart the soft underbelly that nearly every NHL team exposes…the 3rd pairing.

To do this you need:
1. Two absolute possession monsters (Crosby and Malkin)
2. Two hard nosed possession wingers with some skill (Kunitz and Hornquist)
3. Two mid-twenties speedy robots who will do exactly what the coach wants and will do it for dirt cheap (Rust and Sheary)
4. A lethal 3rd line designed to expose other teams underbelly that should contain one one-shot scorer (Kessel)

This discounts the Letang effect which was Huge but let’s just deal with the forwards

Where do the oilers sit?
1. Possession monsters? 1 of 2 in McDavid…traded the other)
2. Hard nosed possession wingers (Lucic and Pouliot)
3. Cheap mid-twenties robots (Pakarinen)
4. Lethal 3rd line including a one-shot scorer (Eberle)

It seems like we’re only missing that second driver and one mid-twenties cheap robot. You can’t just produce another Hall so we need to a) give McDavid less support and hope he can still drive and b) load up a line of solid possession players and hope they can get to +55% without a true driver.

If you fail to approach that number you aren’t dominant enough to ensure the opposing coach doesn’t flip things and put their big line out against the lethal 3rd line which probably would be exposed.

Pouliot-McDavid-Pakarinen
Lucic-RNH- ?
Maroon- Draisatl -Eberle

For the question mark I’m suggesting the Oilers send from their leftorium for a good possession RW. Joonus Donskoi or Matt Read but produced about +100 in Corsi events for top 10 in the NHL. Would Reinhart plus a second get Donskoi? Read or Craig Smith would fit well here too.

Lucic-RNH-Donskoi

I’d guess neither the McDavid line nor the Nuge line could get to 55% yet but with the improved D I think they can beat 50. That “kill line” is ready to do its job but could be exposed on the road.

Progress towards Unicorns ripping under bellies.

spoiler

Dan Boyle is holding on Line 2 and Gryba on Line 3, while Chia talks to Snow-blower.

I’m scared Ebs is going one way and Iggy the other.

Not really. I think Ebs is safe. Same way as I don’t believe the Duchene rumours. Kid was an Av freak growing up, they were overjoyed to draft him. Much the same way with Eberle.

I know Chia is the new Omar Sharif in town and its a concern because Nuge is the guy you keep, but I still think Ebs safe.

Ducey

Aron_S:
Skimming the comments today, I haven’t really seen it come up.

What are the thoughts on Chia standing pat because he doesn’t want to expose another asset in the expansion draft? We know what the rules are, so wouldn’t it make sense for him to go after someone for a one or two year term and hope they sneak through, a la Wisniewski? Demers at term screws this up, and to an extent, so does Barrie.

I feel like they’re already straddling the 8 skaters, rather than 7 and 3, as you’d expect they might want to protect Klef, Larsson, Sekera, Davidson and Drai, Nuge, Lucic, Eberle up front. If you bring in Barrie, I guess it could make sense (at the expense of Nuge), but otherwise I can see why the Oilers might stand pat on not chasing another high end D at this point.

Then again, I still can’t believe they traded Hall for Larsson straight up, so at this point they could burn it down and I wouldn’t be surprised.

Do it make sense to not sign Demers because you might lose him?

No.

Sign him. If you lose him, you lose him. You are no worse off next season and a lot better off this season.

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JimmyV1965

Walter Sobchak:
I’ve got a serious concern about Draisaitl without Hall
What’s worse,is I think the Oilers might trade the wrong centre, maybe I’m being paranoid, but I still think TraderPete never really looked at the analytics of Hall and Draisaitl (what does Dellow do around there) I’ve got this hope that Drasaitl will be ok, but my gut tells me he’s going to be in deep trouble unless paired with McDavid.

Drai looked horrible at the Worlds. He was really an anchor on his line and played on the periphery. I’m assuming he was hurt, but the team would know that right? I’m worried that he played so poorly and wasn’t hurt. Red flags flying everywhere.

DevilsLettuce

Lucic will spend 95% of his ice time for at least the first two weeks depending on results with McDavid.

Dry scored nearly nothing away from Hall.

Give him easy comp with the rookie and Maroon on a sheltered third line.

Send the forth into the trenches.

Nuge could see the easiest comp of his career this year.

Lucic/McDavid/Yak.. Not being sent out.
Pou/Nuge/Pak.. Coach loves Pak, Ebs is out
Maroon/Dry/Pool.. He’s Deadpool but the dry humour type
Hendricks/Letestu/Kassian.. TROGDOR! Burninator.

If Poolparty is set for California, Juju will shine.

DevilsLettuce

Klef/Lars
Sekera/Fayne
Davy/Nurse/Osterle/Reinhart

Klef,Lars,Sekera, Davy are all right now superior to Fayne.

Progression and regression more than likely has Fayne on even ground with the up and comers. Fair?

Fayne is not the puck handler on a pair, paid too much to be third pair, isn’t good enough for the pacific division for the Oilers to legitimately compete if he’s in the top 4.

Fayne is just not a fit with how this corps is built, the currently GM has no ties to anything before 12months ago.

Both Mustachio and TMac are going to want atleast one “bruiser” in the 6.

There’s no fit with how this management is laying the cards out.

JimmyV1965

digger50: I think the jury is still out on Chia. He has made some not so good trades. He has some okay trades. Working with the roster he inherited has made things easy. Gifted NcDavid. Flukes Jessie P.
Best strategic move to date was reading Columbus and not giving up anything to move up a spot.
We do have a tough team lining up, I will enjoy that. But I’m not ready to join Chiarrelli the Pied Piper and follow him off a cliff. His strategy worked once, that’s all.

Blending skill with speed with grit is probably the answer. We were too far to the right and everyone knew we needed to balance, but I’m not certain we won’t end up too far to the left!

True this. Let’s refrain from putting Chia on a pedestal. His career is littered with bad trades. The Hall trade was horrible because we didn’t come close to full value for the player, but Larsson will help the team. Chia is lucky we have a lot of offensive talent, but you can only make so many mistakes.

Dominoiler

Lowetide: They might go:

Pouliot-McDavid-Eberle
Lucic-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
Maroon-Nuge-Yakupov

Pouliot-Nuge-Eberle
Lucic-McDavid-Yakupov / Puljujarvi
Maroon–Draisaitl-Yakupov / Puljujarvi

Versatile group, except the weak right side, could interchange LWs.. PJ could provide a much different look, defensive element w great speed, for that right side.. it would be nice to get the RHC w skill so Drai could sub in on RW sometimes..

delooper

I don’t see them trading RNH, at least, not anytime soon, and not for D. If the Oilers traded away RNH for D they’d be back to having a weak and inexperienced group of centres. . . or just a weak group of centres.

I strongly suspect the remaining summer will go towards shifting from L to R defencemen, if possible, and maybe tweaking the wingers a bit.

maudite

I’d that contract really ridiculous?

I’m okay with Faye here. Sure he’s not PP shot or top pairing but he’s not paid like he’s either of those things. Paid like a 3-5 Dman

Oilspill: He will be ..book it. Only reason he’s here is his ridiculouscontract. You’re right he the second best of the 2 signed and will move down with each right signing.

dustrock

Is Jarvi healthy enough to play at development camp or are we likely waiting for training camp to see him?

YKOil

striatic: Maybe Yakupov in lieu of the 2017 1st?
If Pouliot is out, that leaves Patrick Maroon, 2LW? Lucic can’t play on every line. Questionable.

The more I think about it the more I think it may be time to go conservative (still just talking sports).

Regarding expansion, unless I have it wrong, the Oilers will still have to go 7-3-1. Any more big adds to defense cannot (no pun intended) be defended. We would basically lose Klef or Barrie (if he was the add) OR spend big to convince Vegas to take Yakupov (hello, please take Yakupov and this nice gift bag of picks and prospects).

So, the armchair GM in me says now is when the Oilers should sign someone like Wiz or Boyle or even Zidlicky and then call it even for the most part. Go into expansion without any real vulnerabilities and let them take someone like Yak as an obvious ‘get’. Hopefully they pass on Davidson.

Would also look at signing Nakladal. Seems like another under-rated guy worth taking a flyer on.

Walter Sobchak

I’ve got a serious concern about Draisaitl without Hall
What’s worse, is I think the Oilers might trade the wrong centre, maybe I’m being paranoid, but I still think TraderPete never really looked at the analytics of Hall and Draisaitl (what does Dellow do around there) I’ve got this hope that Drasaitl will be ok, but my gut tells me he’s going to be in deep trouble unless paired with McDavid.

Doug McLachlan

Nuge is not going to Col or Ana.

He might have gone to Min as part of a Dumba deal – even a Dumba to Colorado for Barrie exchange but with the Wild signing Staal, I don’t see the need.

Curious to see what Lindholm and Rakkel cost the Ducks. They are much closer to the cap than they appear.

striatic

Evilas:
Lowetide,

I wonder if it could be a 3 way deal…Fowler to Colorado, with Edmonton 2017 1st,Poo to Anaheim,Barrie to the Oil.Fowler cap hit would fit, no? I can’t see it being Lindholm or Vatanen ….

Maybe Yakupov in lieu of the 2017 1st?

If Pouliot is out, that leaves Patrick Maroon, 2LW? Lucic can’t play on every line. Questionable.

BONVIE

I’d take Vatanen over Barrie every time, if we’re talking about similar price points.

mustang

I personally don”t give a fuck what anyone says, we have Milan Lucic riding shot gun for #97 and that is all I care about right now! Cheers, and I hope you have great night!!

Frank the dog

Why the infatuation with Barrie?

mustang

Hey Guys!

I’m loving life to the fullest, Welcome Milan, I love the fact that you’re an oiler. Let’s nail it!

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Lowetide,

I wonder if it could be a 3 way deal…Fowler to Colorado, with Edmonton 2017 1st, Poo to Anaheim, Barrie to the Oil. Fowler cap hit would fit, no? I can’t see it being Lindholm or Vatanen ….

BONVIE

Somehow I thought you were talking about Nuge, I’ll try to get back into the same conversation as everybody else now!!

Gerta Rauss

BONVIE,

Are you talking about Nuge or Nail..?

I was making a coment about Nail

BONVIE

Gerta Rauss:
With Nail it was the NHL or back to Junior due to the CHL rule(the first year anyway, and that was the lockout year)

I suppose they could/should have sent him to the AHL when he was eligible but this organization is/was addled

No I think Nuge knew how to play in the NHL, the AHL would not have helped him. Keeping guys like Penner, Hemsky, and Horcoff around to shelter these young players and trying to acquire a veteran to bump the young guys down a line, that would have helped a lot, The question was never about Nuge being an NHL caliber player rather it was about carrying the top line head to head against the Kopitars, Thornton,s, and Getzlafs, there lies the problem.

kooler

Lowetide,

Do you see Vatanen or Lindholm?

Gerta Rauss

With Nail it was the NHL or back to Junior due to the CHL rule(the first year anyway, and that was the lockout year)

I suppose they could/should have sent him to the AHL when he was eligible but this organization is/was addled

Frank the dog

Ryan: Was that possible?

– Hey Nail you’re going to the AHL.

Uh, I think I’ll go play in the KHL and I’ll call you in a few years.

Which is why they played him in the NHL too soon. Remember that was right after Hall and Nuge had gone the direct route. Yak was not ready and probably still isn’t. Wouldn’t surprise me if he spent the rest of his career in the K. Yak had spent his time in Junior, but it seems to me that he is another one who wold have done well to learn the ropes in the A for a year before moving up.

Frank the dog

I love what Chia is doing to the roster but I also loved what the team looked like last year – and the year before, and the year before that. I liked Mac T as coach, I liked Renney, and then Krueger, who I thought would take us all the way in a year or 4, I was positive about Eakins until I discovered he was the type of person I have no time for. I thought Lowe could repeat his 2006 success, then Tambo, then MacT. I think Chia can repeat his success from Boston. These moves look really good but the other moves looked good at the time.
So I certainly applaud what I see, I think Luke will be one of my favourite players, I will tune in to watch just him and CMD, plus Nuge, Drai, Ebs, and Kassian, and Nurse, and Larsson.
But here’s the rub. I’m interested, I’ll enjoy if they seem to do well at first, but I’ll only start getting enthusiastic half way through the season. The first real indicator to me, is the first 20 games of the regular season. If they are still in contention by game 60, I’ll allow myself to relax and really enjoy the ride.
Am I alone in this scepticism?

Ryan

Frank the dog: I wish they had seasoned Yak first in the AHL as well. His story could have turned out quite differently.

Was that possible?

– Hey Nail you’re going to the AHL.

Uh, I think I’ll go play in the KHL and I’ll call you in a few years.

admiralmark

Ca$h-McMoney!:
Talbot announced he is having Twins in November.

Given Dubnyks post baby performance dip I’m not thrilled.

Have a gander at the D in front of Dubie in comparison to this years D core and perhaps that should calm you some?

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YKOil,

These guys were all on my wishlist, but I crunched the numbers, you would not to be able to use them unless players like Lander, Letestu & Fayne were moved out. The key word here is potential. There is no room for experiments in Chiarelli’s mind. All the 1st year guys need to be in the AHL to start and accomplished vets need to be in the NHL. I am hopeful we see the roster filled out shortly.

dangilitis

Lowetide:
Adrian Dater ‏@adater 5h5 hours ago

Sources tell Bleacher Report Tyson Barrie likely heading to arbitration with Avalanche. Long-term deal looking like distant prospect

Step 1 – steal Burkie’s or Sweeney’s cell phone, use it to threaten Sakic with offer sheet on Barrie
Step 2 – call Sakic up, “sorry, sounds like Calgary/Boston trying to mess with you. Let’s not give them the satisfaction of the offer sheet and make a deal… but I can’t give you RNH”

Frank the dog

Professor Q: Except this wouldn’t be a jump from Junior. Mind you, yes, it WOULD be a jump from Liiga to the NHL, so yes, the AHl would be the best place to start. Especially with Eberle and Yakupov already here.

I wish they had seasoned Yak first in the AHL as well. His story could have turned out quite differently.

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dangilitis,

I mostly agree, but want JP in Bakersfield for a minimum of 20 games. I would like to see Parenteau brought in on a 1 year contract for JP’s spot there.

Klima's_Bucket

Troy Brouwer has been on the leagues top hitters.

Imagine him playing Edmonton with Lucic, Maroon, Nurse, Hendricks, Khaira, Kassian, on patrol.

No More, Mr. Nice Guy.

Little Poteet

Ca$h-McMoney!,

The Oil are on the road all of november. He will miss games due to travel etc

dangilitis

russ99:
Lucic – McDavid – Draisaitl

– McDavid might come close to 100 pts playing with those line mates in a year or two.

Pouliot – RNH – Eberle

– Good second scoring line, compliments each other well

Maroon – Letestu – Kassian

– Grindy and good possession

Pakarinen – Lander – Yak

– Energy, defense and shooting, just like the old Glencross – Brodziak – Gronk line. Yak moves up in case of injury.

Klefbom – Larsson

Sekera – Fayne (need someone better to push him down to 3rd pair)

Nurse – Davidson

Talbot

Gustafsson

Way better than last year, no unicorns help lessen high event D sorties, less goals against, more goals for with reasonable health.

Balance.

How about running a top 9 of:

Pouliot-McDavid-Yakupov
*Because it has worked before, and could pump the tires on both wingers for any future trades as needed. If McDavid is the only pure driver, why not put him with 2 of the weaker wingers? Sure teams can and will line up their top players against them, but McDavid, like Crosby, can drag 2 weaker wingers with him and hold his own against top lines.

Lucic–Draisaitl–Puljujarvi
*This line will fuck you up and could score in bunches. Lot to ask of Puljujarvi off the bat, but could pay off well.

Maroon-RNH–Eberle
*Because RNH-Eberle have done well in the past facing top opposition, imagine if they faced 2nd/3rd line opposition. Could be like the Hagelin-Bonino-Kessel line…