OILERS DRAFT 2016: CHANCES ARE

by Lowetide

Scott Cullen is the gold standard voice on specific value for picks in the draft. Although the graph hasn’t changed much over the years (the traditional curve for draft quality by draft order looks like the world’s deadliest ski slope), Cullen upgrades his and we thank him for it. What does Scott say about the Oilers picks?

JESSE PULJUJARVI AT NO. 4 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a top 9 forward for No. 4 overall.
  • The best No. 4 overalls are names like Paul Kariya and Roberto Luongo
  • There’s an 52% chance he’ll be at least a top six forward
  • The lowest No. 4 overall’s (Jason Bonsignore) are franchise-defining disappointments.
  • There’s a 86% chance Puljujarvi will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 24% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

TYLER BENSON AT NO. 32 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a good minor leaguer, 50-200 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Doug Weight, James Neal
  • There’s a 12% chance he’ll be at least a top six forward.
  • There’s a 32% chance he will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 86% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

MARKUS NIEMELAINEN AT NO. 63 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a minor leaguer, under 50 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Kris Letang, Brad Richards
  • There’s a 6.2% chance he’ll be at least a top four defender
  • There’s a 33% chance he will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 87.6% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

MATTHEW CAIRNS AT NO. 84 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a minor leaguer, under 50 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Sergei Zubov
  • There’s a 6.2% chance he’ll be at least a top four defender
  • There’s a 23.8% chance he will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 89.5% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

FILIP BERGLUND AT NO. 91 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a minor leaguer, under 50 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Alex Edler
  • There’s a 4.8% chance he’ll be at least a top four defender
  • There’s a 24% chance he will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 90.5% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

DYLAN WELLS AT NO. 123 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a minor leaguer, under 50 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Marty Turco
  • There’s a 4.4% chance he’ll be at least a bona fide NHL goalie
  • There’s a 16.5% chance he will play 100 games in his career (skaters)
  • There’s a 91.8% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

GRAHAM MCPHEE AT NO. 149 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a minor leaguer, under 50 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Brenden Gallagher
  • There’s a 2.5% chance he’ll be at least a top six forward
  • There’s a 13.3% chance he will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 93% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

AAPELI RASANEN AT NO. 153 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a minor leaguer, under 50 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Petr Bondra
  • There’s a 4.4% chance he’ll be at least a top six forward
  • There’s a 15.6% chance he will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 91.7% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

VINCENT DESHARNAIS AT NO. 183 OVERALL

  • “Average” is a minor leaguer, under 50 NHL games
  • The best in this range are men like Filip Kuba
  • There’s a 1.9% chance he’ll be at least a top four defender
  • There’s a 10.3% chance he will play 100 games in his career.
  • There’s a 96.2% chance he’ll be just an NHL regular or worse.

OVERVIEW

The numbers suggest Edmonton’s first round pick has a 50 percent chance of becoming a top six forward based on draft number—a chilling reminder of how quickly player odds fall after No. 1 overall (McDavid was an 86 percent a year ago). Puljujarvi is a good bet to have a substantial career, and the next two picks—Tyler Benson and Markus Niemelainen—have reasonable chances to make the NHL for a time (33 percent chance at 100 NHL games).

Only Puljujarvi (52 percent) and Benson (12 percent) have more than a seven percent chance of being a top six forward/top 4 defender/starting goalie. I always look at these numbers and wonder about trading down from the third to the fifth round and taking more picks—but it isn’t often done and no doubt there are reasons for it.

By the way, I always like to wait five years for a draft, meaning the 2011 draft has completed its examination. Here are the numbers:

  • No. 1 overall: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 313gp, 77-145-222
  • No. 19 overall: Oscar Klefom 107gp, 7-28-35
  • No. 31 overall: David Musil 4gp, 0-2-2
  • No. 114 overall: Tobias Rieder 154gp, 27-31-58

Edmonton had two first-round picks—Nuge was No. 1—and an early second-round selection in Musil. The second rounder was a miss, but the scouts found an NHL regular in the fourth round. Stragglers who have a chance? Dillon Simpson, who has not played in an NHL game at this time. Nine picks, three NHL regulars. Even including the high draft number for the Nuge, I think that is a good draft. Agree?

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Coffeys_Messy_eh

Pouzar:
We have to start taking some low risk/high reward chances.
Get Wiz. He was bought out so that means he had to pass a physical so he is “healthy”.
A 1 year deal is a no brainer. Of course, it won’t be from EDM.

Peter “Vacation Dad” Chiarelli is not about low-risk this off season. I suspect they may look at the Wiz, but only after the Barrie situation plays out. If they lose out on Barrie, then perhaps they’ll circle around to Wiz, assuming he’s still unsigned.

When is Barrie’s arbitration meeting, anyway? Anyone know?

Pouzar

We have to start taking some low risk/high reward chances.
Get Wiz. He was bought out so that means he had to pass a physical so he is “healthy”.
A 1 year deal is a no brainer. Of course, it won’t be from EDM.

who

AsiaOil:
Depends on what his knee is like – nothing but crickets. If he’s physically OK then a 1 year deal is fine and all he will get from anyone at this point.

Best deal for me is GR/Davidson for Trouba (fixes WPG LHD issues) and either keep Trouba or swap for Berrie (the bear will not be happy).

Klef. Larson
Sekera Fayne
Nurse Berrie

If I could get Trouba for Griff plus or Davy plus I would stop right there. Forget Barrie

Seismic Source

If we call him a 3rd overall instead of a 4th, what are Jesse’s percentages?

AsiaOil

CMD year 1 – sort out the team, start to change the culture, assess the holes, miss the playoffs

CMD year 2 – fill the biggest holes, change the culture, challenge for or make the playoffs

CMD year 3 – fill in the remaining gaps, solidify the culture, make a deep playoff run

Wonder Llama

YKOil,

Not sure about the cost – assume it’s a negotiation like any other so you weigh the relative values, but that’s different than assuming the player will simply be lost.

P.S. Sorry if the tone seemed a bit smart-assy.

YKOil

Wonder Llama,

Of course you can – but what are you giving up there? A 1st rounder? And what if you have to make them want to miss someone? That will cost ya!

YKOil

Oddspell,

Nuge and Korpikoski for Barrie and a future 2nd, pre-Larsson, may have been an overpay I could have lived with using the same assumption you had (getting a center). We still would have lost the trade but at least we kill an extra bird with the one stone.

More and more I see the expansion draft as a dragon better left unchallenged.

Give Vegas their obvious gets – which would be one of Yakupov or Reinhart – and then move on with your life. Why start Nurse up on the team – Davidson-Oesterle should be fine with 3rd pair minutes. Leave Nurses bonuses unearned this year.

And why rush JP?

Seriously, with MDavid and Drai bonuses the actual cap space is only some $3.9 million plus (maybe) Ference.

Not a lot there. Why ‘eff it up?

Wonder Llama

Lowetide,

Sure, that’s exactly what I assumed you were doing (and my response is to that way of thinking in general, not to you as the owner of the argument).

Salty Fanboy

LT, your article with the attached percentages of anticipated success of draft picks causes me again to ask the question of why you would not always try and trade 3rd round and beyond picks for AHL talent with potentially greater odds of success? For example, does a Dillon Simpson have a ‘25%’ chance of becoming a regular NHL’er based on observed progress at a higher level of play (and thus a more robust sample size) and if so, would you not trade a 3rd round pick for him pretty much every time (if there is a willing counterpart of course)? Seems to me there is a strategy to beef up AHL/ECHL scouting, pull back on junior scouting and based on historical percentages trade out draft picks for minor league players potentially undervalued by their NHL teams or blocked because of talent congestion. Could Toronto’s draft strategy of drafting players that fell back into the draft this year be a derivation of playing these averages? Given historical odds, fooling around on draft picks seems a mugs game and offers poor returns on investment after the second round.

Wonder Llama

YKOil:
Ryan,

Given I was part of the ‘no Hall for a guy like Larsson’ camp you can be sure I am part of the ‘no Nuge for Barrie’ camp.

Get Wiz.Call it even.Wait for them to come to you.To be honest I don’t even like the Pouliot + Yakupov + 1st camp.Too much.Pouliot + Yak + 3rd would be LOTS for Barrie, and only if signed to a reasonable extension at that.

Would just lose him to expansion regardless.

Far better to wait this expansion thing out imo.Get Wiz.Good enough for now.

I heard a rumor somewhere that you can actually make a trade with the Vegas franchise so that they agree to select a particular player from your roster in the expansion draft.

Sounds crazy though – can’t be true.

Wonder Llama

Lowetide: I think there is a feeling—probably correct—that the Oilers are pretty damn close to being a playoff team if the health is better and they can add a PP QB RHD who can play top 4 or 6. The 2017 pick is probably No. 12-18, that isn’t a terrific pick (compared to most Oiler first rounders). Pouliot is paid well with some term and Yakupov, well, every team has a Yakupov and his being a former No.; 1 means diddly jack nowadays.

I think that is probably the thinking.

I guess I understand the thinking as you lay it out, I just can’t quite buy into it.

I like Pouliot’s contract just fine, reading your piece here reminds me that Klef was a pick in that range, and I don’t see the sense in trading an asset at its absolute lowest perceived value.

But hey, if Barrie really is the PP QB RHD of our dreams at what I assume will be about a $6M AAV and this is the only way…

Oddspell

YKOil,

Pre-Larsson trade, free agency I would have begrudgingly traded Nuge for Barrie with the assumption that we’re signing another center. THAT is the overpay for a need deal that I was thinking.

Now that we have Larsson, the free agents are signed, and Wiz has been bought out, I agree with you. Keep Nuge, sign Wisniewski to a “prove it” contract. It cost Hall, but our defence looks halfway respectable now. Let’s make a low cost – high reward bet, and give Wis 2.5m for a year.

kooler

stush18,

All for Vey as 3C and put Dria on the wing. No need to pressure the kid until he’s ready.

Although he’s hasn’t made his mark just yet, Vey stats from 2011 where he beat out a couple good players….

Linden Vey Medicine Hat Tigers 69 46 70 116
Tyler Johnson Spokane Chiefs 71 53 62 115
Mark Stone Brandon Wheat Kings 71 37 69 106
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Red Deer Rebels 69 31 75 106
Jordan Weal Regina Pats 72 43 53 96
Brendan Shinnimin Tri-City Americans 60 34 62 96
Ryan Johansen Portland Winterhawks 63 40 52 92
Brendan Gallagher Vancouver Giants 66 44 47 91
Scott Glennie Brandon Wheat Kings 70 35 56 91
Marek Viedensky Saskatoon Blades 63 36 52 88

YKOil

Ryan,

Given I was part of the ‘no Hall for a guy like Larsson’ camp you can be sure I am part of the ‘no Nuge for Barrie’ camp.

Get Wiz. Call it even. Wait for them to come to you. To be honest I don’t even like the Pouliot + Yakupov + 1st camp. Too much. Pouliot + Yak + 3rd would be LOTS for Barrie, and only if signed to a reasonable extension at that.

Would just lose him to expansion regardless.

Far better to wait this expansion thing out imo. Get Wiz. Good enough for now.

dustrock

LT could you give Cullen’s ratings for Jarvi if he was the #3 pick?

Just curious if anything changes. Because he was the listed #3 overall.

McSorley33

JDï™,

Well played……

Wonder Llama

Kitchener:
On the topic of young players, one kid I’d bet isn’t wasting his summer is Darnell Nurse.That big brain of his will have analyzed his season fully by now and you can bet his summer will be spent working on whatever’s needed to improve.

Lots of kids have drive and motivation to improve, but like Lucic said about Nurse recently, ‘that kid doesn’t back down.’I’ll bet my next beer that Nurse shows up in camp prepared to keep his roster spot.Given his athleticism, ‘heavy game’, and his overactive brain, I’ll bet Nurse forces us all to adjust our September D projections.

I don’t know who he’ll bump off the roster, but I won’t be betting against Nurse come fall.

I hope you’re right and I think you may be. Given Davidson’s ability to play RD in a way that seems effective to me, that would be huge.

About that 6% corsi loss with D playing their “wrong” side, I assume that is based on a large sample size of players of various talent levels. Can we assume that some defensemen are more comfortable and effective than others when they do this? And if so do any of our LHDs fall in that category (Sekera? Davidson?) And if so then do we need to be less concerned about the six percent solution?

HT Joe

ashley: I see “NHL ’94” all the time on here and never understood, so I just googled it and it seems you are referencing a video game?That’s cool, but I’m curious why one that is 22 years old gets cited frequently?Unless others are being referenced and I’m missing them completely…..

NHL ’94 was the first EA hockey game to have both licensing from the NHL and NHLPA (so you could finally choose real players, and enjoy real NHL team logos). Earlier iterations seemed to have only licensing from one, or the other (or neither), so the game changed the way hockey video games were made. The Super Nintendo version also allowed for up to 5-players at once, with Arcade quality graphics. That game got heavy use from my buddies and me, from pre-teen all the way through the University years and beyond.

Wonder Llama

I’m slightly surprised that so many people way smarter than me seem to be okay with Barrie for Pou, Yak, and the 2017 first-round pick. That seems like as great an overpay as Nuge. I know W is easier to replace than C or RHD, but still – that guts an entire scoring line (or slaughters a unicorn – which means scary Tim Curry will visit).

Don’t we all agree that Yak’s trade value is crazy low right now? Gotta give the kid a chance to recoup some of it first, right?

I have to agree with those who are calling for a more small ball solution using some stock from the leftorium.

JD_Wry

ashley,

NHL 94 was the shit, although at the time we used phrases like ‘best ever’ and ‘awesome’.

€√¥£€^$

Wonder Llama,

Vey has been likely dealing with some crazy family stuff….I have no first hand knowledge, but based on his results this may be impacting him significantly.. Hopefully he has a good support system in place and he can focus on his career.

Google it if you want, I won’t add the details here.

Kitchener

On the topic of young players, one kid I’d bet isn’t wasting his summer is Darnell Nurse. That big brain of his will have analyzed his season fully by now and you can bet his summer will be spent working on whatever’s needed to improve.

Lots of kids have drive and motivation to improve, but like Lucic said about Nurse recently, ‘that kid doesn’t back down.’ I’ll bet my next beer that Nurse shows up in camp prepared to keep his roster spot. Given his athleticism, ‘heavy game’, and his overactive brain, I’ll bet Nurse forces us all to adjust our September D projections.

I don’t know who he’ll bump off the roster, but I won’t be betting against Nurse come fall.

AsiaOil

Depends on what his knee is like – nothing but crickets. If he’s physically OK then a 1 year deal is fine and all he will get from anyone at this point.

Best deal for me is GR/Davidson for Trouba (fixes WPG LHD issues) and either keep Trouba or swap for Berrie (the bear will not be happy).

Klef. Larson
Sekera Fayne
Nurse Berrie

Acumen:
Gotta say, from where I’m sitting now, signing Wisniewski on the (relatively) cheap seems like the smart play. Maybe 2.5M x 2 years.

Its another bullet for the expansion draft, fills our only real remaining need, gives us another right hand shot, buys time for Ethan Bear (or someone similar), and provides us with another experienced hand, all at an acquisition cost of exactly zero.

And the moment his name hits the dotted line, we can start realistically talking about that picture of Stan Weir. Crazy to even think about.

ashley

Zelepukin: Fingers crossed he comes to camp in better shape/healthy.

He is doing a lot less of the ‘NHL 94, end of period, non-moving dead player, until you switch to him and then bust ass to hammer the closest guy or rifle the puck at the net,’ style of play.

I see “NHL ’94” all the time on here and never understood, so I just googled it and it seems you are referencing a video game? That’s cool, but I’m curious why one that is 22 years old gets cited frequently? Unless others are being referenced and I’m missing them completely…..

JD_Wry

McSorley33:
JDï™,

Wait a second, did you see whose number is directly underneath Benning’s?

Bergevin?

Bowman?

Chayka?

Chelveldayoff?

Kitchener

Oilspill,

My reasonable optimism for Yakupov is that a second season with the same coach will help. In junior and in his best NHL moments he’s been a high-paced instinct/reaction/skill player, but it seems like most of his NHL icetime has been analysis paralysis (causing the split second delays.) In junior in particular he was faster mentally than everyone else on the ice.

Different players need to develop different areas of their game between getting drafted and year five. For Yak, he’s had the physical tools the whole time. What he needs is between his ears, and he hasn’t had the best environment to grow most of the demented time. I’m reasonably confident that this will be another season of improvement for Yakupov.

square_wheels

Does anyone here live in Sherwood Park or Fort Saskatchewan and work in the greater Fort Saskatchewan area ?

I’m interested in the pro’s/con’s of each. Commutes day vs night, winter vs summer, ammenities in each community, schools, housing values.

Whatever your opinion is I’m happy to hear it, anything and everything appreciated including county/rural living as well.

Commutes to downtown Edmonton on game nights also a factor. Just sayin’.

spoiler

AsiaOil: Nobody expects him to be Bob Gainey, Tank Krutov or Ovechkin – but there has been a distinct lack of progress over the past 3 seasons in these areas that has matched his dropping ES PPG rate

P/60

2016 … 1.85
2015 … 1.98
2014 … 1.89

2016 started off with a serious injury. When he came back he had noticeable difficulties raising the puck for a few weeks. Also, much of the rest of the skill on the team went and got injured which also affects scoring rates.

And yet he is within the range of his prior years. Nor is there a trend denoting decline from 3 years ago to this year.

if we can’t be honest with our math, we might was well become climate alarmists, lol.

Ryan

AsiaOil:
We don’t need to make any more desperation moves. Trading RNH for Barrie is asinine as Barrie gives up as much or more at ES as he produces. There is a reason COL is not happy – they are going to have to pay for offensive production that is not discounted for defensive lapses.

We need someone to play RHD on PP1

PP1 – Klef xxx
PP2 – Sekera Larsson

Frankly if we can get Wideman for the year (for Fayne?) I’d be perfectly happy with that as a short-term fix – then run GR/Nurse/Davey on the 3rd pair. Not a lot of options out there as PP guys with offensive warts cost a ton and give most of it back at ES – and PP guys without warts are never traded.

Last option – I’d try Davidson at RHD on PP1 – the kid’s got a damn good shot

Nice. You’re joining myself and I presume Ricki on the just say ‘no’ to Nuge for Barrie train?

Could someone explain the Barrie trade to a simpleton like me?

Okay, so we have 2.5 NHL centres and we’re going to trade one for a defensemen… Once Nuge is gone, we have McDavid, Draisatl sans Hall, Testube and Zoolander. Excellent… Wtf?

Barrie’s a high event defender who generally gets out scored at evens, will cost a ton of cap for his offense and might chip in 4 goals and 20 points total on the PP.

Great idea.

Omega93

Ducey,

Probably Simpson Reinhart would be better as a 3rd pair than Reinhart Gryba, but I would prefer Reinhart Davidson as the 3rd. Reinhart and Oesterly played fairly well at the end of last year as the 2nd pair.

McSorley33

JDï™,

Wait a second, did you see whose number is directly underneath Benning’s?

Acumen

Gotta say, from where I’m sitting now, signing Wisniewski on the (relatively) cheap seems like the smart play. Maybe 2.5M x 2 years.

Its another bullet for the expansion draft, fills our only real remaining need, gives us another right hand shot, buys time for Ethan Bear (or someone similar), and provides us with another experienced hand, all at an acquisition cost of exactly zero.

And the moment his name hits the dotted line, we can start realistically talking about that picture of Stan Weir. Crazy to even think about.

McSorley33

Oilspill,

Press box, minors …..Back to top 4 on our team.

Ray F. said it best about our D situation even after the Hall Larceny.

AsiaOil

Thanks KO and who – a number of people can see the forest for the trees – and I’m really looking forward to the season without qualification for a change. I have my favorites like anyone else but cheer for the team – so anyone is tradeable in my books with the exception of true genius like CMD. I’ve lived through trading 99, mess, andy, coffey, jari, coco, weight and CFP – so trading Hall was minor compared to that. We will be fine – more than fine actually – and the tough deals are over. All we have to do is develop JP properly and see which of Ebs/Yak to keep. Develop Nurse properly and deal one or both of GR/Davidson for a 2RD. But those are both deals we can be patient sellers on and let the trades come to us. Fayne is fine, if overpaid, as a 3RD who can slide up to 2nd pair. We’ve got a bunch of interesting prospects on the wing and on defense. Compass points north and new rink opens in weeks.

Ducey

RandomPoster: Reinhart had a hell of a time with Gryba last year. He needs to play with anybody but Gryba.

How about Dillon Simpson?

In a perfect world the Oilers obtain Barrie and sign Gryba for 7th D. Then Nurse and Reinhart can be top pairing on the farm

Wonder Llama

stush18,

Nucks didn’t sign Vey – he’s UFA now if Chia wants to sign him he should be cheap.

Nothing wrong with more centre depth.

As for Fayne, I don’t have a problem trading the guy as I think he’s about $1M overpaid, but not without a better replacement than Gryba coming in.

The Oilers currently have a total of five actual NHL defensemen. Better than usual, but still shy of what a contending team needs.

Omega93

stush18: Klef-Larsson
Sekera-Davidson
Reinhart-gryba

Reinhart had a hell of a time with Gryba last year. He needs to play with anybody but Gryba.

stush18

Would anyone move fayne for a centre option, and then sign gryba?

I really like linden vey. I think Vancouver might do that trade. And he really had a rough year. Then you could run this at home

poo-nuge-ebs
Lucic-mcdavid-drai
Maroon-vey-yak
Hendricks-letestu-kass

Klef-Larsson
Sekera-Davidson
Reinhart-gryba

And

Maroon-mcdavid-ebs
Lucic-nuge-kass
Poo-drai-yak
Hendricks-vey-pak

Or something similar.

JD_Wry

http://www.nhltradetracker.com/home

Great trade site. You can search by player, team or GM.

Note to league GMs: If you’re talking about a big trade, and it’s with Poile, hang up. Hang up now. Call 1-800-BEN-NING, instead.

Zelepukin

Gerta Rauss: We can’t buy out Fayne, the buyout period is over for the Oilers. The next window opens June 15 of 2017.

Fayne is an NHL defenceman. He has his warts, but he can bring value to this team

Fingers crossed he comes to camp in better shape/healthy.

Oilspill: Yak has the hockey physical skills but seriously lacks theintuition. He reacts way too slow. If he had the anticipatory skills he be a legit #1 draft pick.

He is doing a lot less of the ‘NHL 94, end of period, non-moving dead player, until you switch to him and then bust ass to hammer the closest guy or rifle the puck at the net,’ style of play.

Gerta Rauss

Oilspill:
Faynes buyout is approx 1.18 mil over 4 years. He is going to be a huge hole in that D corps. Does anybody else think he should be bought out?

We can’t buy out Fayne, the buyout period is over for the Oilers. The next window opens June 15 of 2017.

Fayne is an NHL defenceman. He has his warts, but he can bring value to this team

who

kinger_OIL:
AsiaOil,

– You’ve been on fire lately…We see the team and its strengths and weaknesses in the same light

– Your a Fan as well, but among the more reasoned measured and critical ones

Agreed. Your last few posts have been bang on. Couldn’t have said it better myself. You saved me a lot of typing.

Dicky94

AsiaOil,

I agree. Would also love to see him in a playoff series for the Oil. He could be our version of Justin Williams scoring some key overtime goals. He has that ability.

Richard S.S.

The Defense has Oscar Klefbom, Adam Larsson (r) and Andrej Sekera as their top 3D. Sekera can play with Klefbom or Larsson in 1st Line at need. The Defense has Brandon Davidson and Mark Fayne (r) as bottom 3 D. Both can play up at 2nd Line at need, while Davidson might also play 1st Line at need. ideally there are two openings that the Oilers would rather not fill in-house.

I would like Peter Chiarelli to acquire a Good RHD that can easily play 2nd Line and up at need. You can use a Forward as PP#1 if necessary. It would be nice if the D could do it, but unnecessary. Any money coming in must being accompanied by an equal or greater amount going out. What Peter does about the acquiring the third RHD is up to him.

cc

Oilspill: Yak has the hockey physical skills but seriously lacks theintuition. He reacts way too slow. If he had the anticipatory skills he be a legit #1 draft pick.

Agreed, realistically, and I’m not the first to say it, but he needed a year or two in the AHL. In fact he would greatly benefit by spending the first three months in Bakersfield this year.

kinger_OIL

AsiaOil,

– You’ve been on fire lately…We see the team and its strengths and weaknesses in the same light

– Your a Fan as well, but among the more reasoned measured and critical ones