RE 16-17 LEON DRAISAITL: NO TIME

by Lowetide

Leon Draisaitl got the call early on October 29, and by early evening he was in Edmonton playing for the Oilers. Montreal was in town, and in front of 16,839, the Habs built a 3-0 lead by the end of the first period. You’ve seen these games before—down early, growing pains, mistakes, it could easily have been 5-0 by the end of the second. The club played a smarter second, and late in the period Leon Draisaitl scored on an unusual play (it was reviewed, of course) to make it 3-1 after two periods. The Oilers gave fans a ripping third period, scoring twice to tie it—and then Leon cashed a dandy Nuge pass to win the game. Sweet, sweet music. Leon scored twice in that game, Taylor Hall assisting both times. It was a fabulous beginning. (No Time).

LEON DRAISAITL 2015-16

  • 5×5 points per 60: 2.20 (3rd among regular forwards)
  • 5×4 points per 60: 3.09 (9th among regular forwards)
  • Corsi for 5×5 %: 51.8 (first among regular forwards)
  • Qual Comp: 5th toughest competition among regulars (2line)
  • Qual Team: best competition among regulars (1line)
  • Corsi for 5×5 % REL: 12.0 (3rd among regular forwards)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 133 shots/14.3%
  • Boxcars: 72, 19-32-51

(All numbers via Stats.HockeyAnalysis.com and BehindtheNet.ca)

VOLLMAN SLEDGEHAMMER

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RE 16-17: 75GP, 15-25-40 .533

  1. You have him going the wrong way. I think this could be a challenging year for Draisaitl, depending on where he lands. His last three seasons are marked by wild swings in performance and deployment, so the margin for error is vast.
  2. Leon is going to miss Hall. Yes, the trick is figuring out how much. The WOWYs are pretty damning.
  3. What is the tale of the tape? With Hall, 2.32 points-per-60 at 5×5, and his Corsi for 5×5 percentage 51.6.
  4. Impressive. Let’s be clear: 34 points in 880 minutes with Hall, that is very, very good—Hall scored 36 points with Leon. The slump in the second half hurt both men.
  5. What about 5×5 without Hall? In about 160 minutes 5×5, he was 1.13 points-per-60, Corsi for 5×5 percentage 53.3. A lot of the possession spike no doubt had to do with lesser competition.
  6. That isn’t a good point total. No sir, it is not. I nicked him in his RE because of it, and of course the beginning of his career has been unusual—so this is a tough player to project.
  7. Any major concerns aside from Hall exit? Well, he faded badly. Leon had a strong run before the AS break (40, 12-25-37) but the post AS break (32, 7-7-14) was not good at all. Leon and Hall faded (Hall was 32, 8-9-17 in the second half).
  8. Who else did he play well with? All the skill guys. Nuge (4.2), Purcell (2.71), all but Eberle and they played together when 14 came back iirc (it took awhile for the RW). Played well with Maroon and Kassian, not so with Nail but they only played 79 minutes together.
  9. Who are his current comparables? Using his first two seasons and a tightened age range, the most comparable players are Nathan Horton, David Pastrnak, Jakub Voracek, Brendan Gallagher and Michael Frolik. (Source)
  10. Very good list. I think he will be an excellent player, would have loved to see him run with Hall and Nuge again in 2016-17.
  11. Is he going to be a center? I think so, yes.
  12. Will McDavid, Nuge and Leon spend a decade together? Tough to say. That is an impressive trio—you would have a difficult time naming many who will be better in the next 10 years—but there will come a time when they are all getting paid and the drag on the cap will be massive.
  13. What kind of player will he be? Leon is going to be a load, on offense (so very skilled, insane passes) and physically (he already wins battles and has some strength to add as he matures), plus he is a determined back checker. Absolutely thrilled with his growth as a player this season.
  14. Does McLellan like him? Yes, but he is aware of growing pains. McLellan: ”Leon was tremendous at times at centre and other times he got worn out. That was part of being 21 years old in a men’s league.” Source
  15. Is Leon a lock to stay for a long time? I think he is—if he continues to develop. This will be a difficult year, because there will be expectations and he doesn’t have Hall port side.
  16. Do you have any idea who PC and McLellan view as the foundation? Pretty sure we have it surrounded.
  17. Please list the group. Cam Talbot, Adam Larsson, Andrej Sekera, Oscar Klefbom, Darnell Nurse, Griffin Reinhart, Connor McDavid, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Leon Draisaitl, Milan Lucic, Jordan Eberle, Jesse Puljujarvi.
  18. You forgot Davidson. I am not certain the Oilers value him as an inner circle player at this point. I think he should be a lock for the top 4D, but will be interested to see if the club sees him the same way as the numbers see him. He is not big, merely very effective. I do think there is a chance the Oilers trade him to a team that knows what he is—Davidson is vulnerable as an Oiler at this time. I believe that to be true.
  19. You listed Reinhart. Yes, I think he is probably a lock to be an Oiler for the next five seasons—especially after the bonus burns off in 2016-17.
  20. This is the kind of asshattery you engage in all the time. No proof! The past informs us about the future. We will talk about it more in the GR RE.
  21. Can Leon hit 60 points? I think he could have with Hall driving the line. The last Oilers center to score 60 points (Horcoff and Stoll, 2005-06) came over a decade ago, and the next one is Connor McDavid. Can Leon (or Nuge) join him? That is probably one of the keys to making the playoffs.
  22. What is best about Leon? His passing is incredible, just fabulous. He is a creative player, and one who can be effective on the forehand and backhand. Smart, great at puck protection. He is also an aggressive player, and has good size.
  23. What are his weaknesses? His speed has improved but can be an issue—especially last season when he appeared to wilt in the second half. I also think he failed to adjust once NHL teams figured out his tendencies—he will need to adjust, himself.
  24. Should the Oilers have traded Leon instead of Hall? I believe that would have been the better way, dealing Leon and Darnell and a pick in order to get a complete defender. The Oilers held on to the McDavid cluster, and that is textbook in team building. In this case, it is my opinion that the textbook is wrong.
  25. Why this song? As always with the Oilers, there is no time left for him to develop—he will be a stone alone many nights this season. Ideally, he centers a third line with Pouliot or Maroon, and an offensive option on RW. He could also fill the 2R role as needed. When injuries hit, he will be forced up the depth chart and that will be a challenge for the young center. No time, no time, no time, no time.

 

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New Improved Darkness

Jethro Tull:
Sad news – one of the great artists and satirists of the 20th century.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-36912468

In some ways, the antidote to threadjacking is almost as bad as the disease.

People tend to have areas where they are not completely comfortable in their own skin. At first, the points of interest are harmless enough (or even constructive; this one, for example, is both interesting and ennobling), but then narcissism—being what it is—spies its main chance to steer the entire conversation to one blubbery or flaccid flap of loose-fitting skin or another, and the thread is ruined.

One way to think of a thread is as a single-file bar fight (general mayhem, as opposed to the quick, efficient and brutal single-file prison fight). Properly done, if one wants to moon and moan about body language, one has to patiently stow it away until Jultz Wednesday or Gilbert Thursday. Unless the metal detectors are functioning poorly—then you can smuggle it into the institution any old night that moves you, such as, for example, inside a classy commemorative cake with 91 sad candles.

Then what seems to happen is that before the last candle goes out, somewhere in the room the chips are down (same old same old) and it has nothing to do with the thread in the room, while 91 candles cry.

———

Davis first came to the attention of TV Guide in 1965 when he illustrated an eight-page advertising supplement for NBC’s TV lineup, which featured icons such as Johnny Carson, Dean Martin and fictional characters such as Dr. Kildare, Napoleon Solo and Maxwell Smart. His first cover for the magazine came in 1968 … Davis recalls, “Every assignment was a thrill because TV Guide was the top magazine in the country. I couldn’t wait to get in my little MG and drive from New York out to the magazine’s offices in Radnor, Pennsylvania, to show the editors my latest design. I felt like the luckiest guy in the world, even without powered windows.”

———

So you have this time machine, and you’re feeling lucky, so you say to your time machine “take me back”.

TM: Where to, captain?

You, feeling lucky: Any where, any time! It’s on you.

The glass frosts over. Less than an instant passes.

TM: Okay, done.

YFL: Wait! Don’t defrost! I want to guess.

TM: That narrows it down already.

YFL: What do you mean?

TM: What was the dietary staple of the first permanent human settlement?

YFL: Of all time?

Time machine lets out a low groan, but otherwise does not respond.

YFL: Okay, you’ve made your point. You’ve taken me some time I’ll successfully recognize. But I’m going to need at least one more clue.

TM: Alright, I’ve got one. I just replaced Wikipedia with TV Guide.

YFL: No, baby, no!

TM: Now say that again with more hip action …

YFL: But I won’t blend!

TM: Take a 48-hour nap on the floor, then went you step out, you’ll blend just fine.

YFL: Does that count as another clue? That going forty-eight hours unfed, unwashed, and unshaven is culturally optimal?

TM: A fair interference, had you not neglected my own sense of smell.

YFL: Sorry! Me insensitive clod me.

Time Machine contemplates for a moment. “Was that sarcastic enough to deserve a future encounter with King Richard the Lionhearted? Well, perhaps not all by itself. Besides, if I can’t see the nose on my own face, let’s not be hasty.”

Here’s another thing about time machines that many don’t notice at first: they find it strangely difficult to forget much of anything.

TM: Fair enough. Okay, whatever you do, don’t step on the center of the floor, I’ve enacted a 6″ circular portal to somewhen that’s not exactly time and space as you know it, suitable to receive your bodily fluids and intestinal biota.

YFL contemplates the bare floor, which displays not a hint of the tiny star gate.

YFL: Brane to neverwhere, without even so much as a foggy, molten shimmer?

TM: Neverwhere—if you haven’t heard—has some geometric glider guns that would please you better just about anywhere than Riemannizing your bare back side.

YFL: Uh, do lifeforms exist in this alternate time and space?

TM: Not—yet—in any form you would so recognize.

YFL: Hey! That’s not right! The proper way to seed new life is having your bodily remains entombed in a torpedo casing, then fired out of a photon tube with pomp and ceremony.

TM: You really think Bones gave Spock a postmortem enema to spare the Genesis planet of hard feelings?

YFL: Now that’s a little too graphic! You seem to forget that I’m a man trapped in a time box not much bigger than a Polaroid photo booth, now utterly terrified about stepping onto an invisible hole to some terrifying nowhere—right smack dab in the middle of the floor, thank you ever so much.

TM: Uh, my bad. So what’s it going to be?

YFL: What do you mean?

TM: Shall I fling open the door and allow you to greet this world as you are, or are you going to wait it out for forty-eight hours so as to gain your era-appropriate cloak of scruff and poor hygiene?

YFL contemplates the bathroom arrangements, then TV Guide, then back again to the bathroom arrangements.

YFL: What if I can’t?

TM: Can’t what?

YFL: You know, drop a log into the dangerous yet unformed Genesis Brane.

TM: Who did you just say was getting a little too graphic?

YFL: You’ve got me totally freaked out!

TM: I don’t exactly have a dog in your bowel function. Go as you mean to. But whatever you do, don’t fill your boots, or I’ll pop the door for ventilation while you’re still in mid squat.

YFL: Perfect! I’ll just yell out, “Hey, can somebody out there hand me a TV Guide? The amenities in here are sub-standard.”

TM: Well, I know where you are, and I think you’d be much better served not to fill your boots.

YFL: But I kind of want to drop a couple of crumpled draglets from TV Guide into the Genesis Brane.

TM: You know what? Deep down, you’re an evil man. It might interest you to know that historically TV Guide printed the listing on glossy paper, and the listings on newsprint.

YFL: Yes, indeed, I’d best take that into account in my page selections.

TM: It’s a big responsibility.

YFL: It’s a hypothetical responsibility. For one thing, I’m not even wearing boots.

TM: Figure of speech.

YFL: Besides, just how hard is it to hit an invisible 6″ hole, given all the time in the world to take aim?

TM: Ever wondered why so many Asian toilets have sculpted foot rests?

YFL: Well, why don’t you put the hole in the corner, so I can frame my backside against the walls?

TM: Poly-world symmetry constraint. I might be Einstein squared, but there are still some things even I, a time machine, just can’t do. When you have Wikipedia again, if you make it back, check out Emily Noether. A damn sight smarter than that knucklehead with his transparent aluminum.

YFL: But this tiny star gate, it’s completely unmarked!

TM: What would I mark it with?

YFL: What, you can’t find the tip of some third multiverse and have it just poke through a tiny bit?

TM: Oh, absolutely, a milliliter out of an entire quantum multiverse—uniquely selected out of the quantum continuum—is going to sit right still while you take your bearings on the Braille dots. I’ll get right on that.

YFL: Do I detect sarcasm?

TM: Now it’s mutual.

YFL: Erm, how about I line the floor with paper? It works for puppy dogs and parrots.

TM: Just where are you going to get some paper? I’m a time machine, I don’t turn pocket lint into fish or loaves.

YFL: Here’s an idea. How about I just nip out, grab some TV Guide that someone left lying around, then before anyone notices, I’ll come right back and we can compete my forty-eight hour prep. Sound like a good plan?

———-

Somewhere in the 1960s a man screams.

“Cobb dang it, where the fuck is my TV Guide! Jesus to Murphy, when is the game! If I’d put it any place more conspicuous, I’d have to have nailed it to the church steeple. Mary mother of Murphy, how the fuck?”

Perhaps this outrage is a blue tinge more than entirely justified from a man with two slender rabbit ears and just three channels, but such were the times. Little does he know, somewhere out there now exists a companion multiverse with a surprising factoid etched indelibly into the equations of its quantum background state: channel 4 at 2.

In all populated universes within this entire alternate multiverse, the men get sex much less often. Cruelly, evolution compensates by making them all want it proportionately more.

Another curious difference. In all these universes, Making Love in the Afternoon is not a line from a pop song, it’s a horror movie, rated PG-13 (or PG-1300) for depicting a depravity beyond the unthinkable.

theres oil in virginia

Woodguy,

I figured that’s what you meant. I was just teasing. Those must have been the days before I knew what a comments section was all about. I still haven’t quite figured it out!

🙂

Woodguy

theres oil in virginia:
Woodguy,

If by “victim” you mean “rightful recipient whom LT let off easy because he knew that one day you would co-invent WoodMoney”, then yeah, you were a victim.

oh no.

I was sent to the penalty box before I was a regular.

I got the Dad speech about “what I wanted out of lowetide and what I could contribute”

Had to grow up or move on.

theres oil in virginia

Woodguy,

If by “victim” you mean “rightful recipient whom LT let off easy because he knew that one day you would co-invent WoodMoney”, then yeah, you were a victim.

Kiltymcbagpipes

Just watched that video Mirtle tweeted out about Landeskog. Only 3 mins worth a watch:

@Mirtle

This is the great @GabeLandeskog92 video on concussion recovery I referenced on the radio just now https://t.co/2SM4u0BHBA via @EMPWR_FDN

Woodguy

Kiltymcbagpipes: Something about his Dad won’t call him….

Well done

Woodguy

bendelson: Spoken like someone who has “Steve Smith” on retainer…

I don’t think “retainer” means what you think it means.

Woodguy

Lowetide:
No one has official status here. I would run any of you over in a heartbeat, just for the thrill.

As a victim of multi time outs and finger waging I can attest to the truth of this statement.

Its like he think he’s owns the joint.

bendelson

Lowetide:
No one has official status here. I would run any of you over in a heartbeat, just for the thrill.

Spoken like someone who has “Steve Smith” on retainer…

JD_Wry

Pouzar: Had to dust off my ass after falling off my stool too.

I hope you could at least one-time those shooters!

Pouzar

Kiltymcbagpipes: Something about his Dad won’t call him….

Ouch!

dustrock

Lowetide:
No one has official status here. I would run any of you over in a heartbeat, just for the thrill.

ha ha ha yessssssssss

Kiltymcbagpipes

Pouzar:
Just got back from the bar….why does WG hate Drai?

Something about his Dad won’t call him….

Kiltymcbagpipes

JDï™: Already? You drink like Eberle back-checks…

Dude, he lives in Winnipeg. What else is there to do?

Pouzar

JDï™: Already? You drink like Eberle back-checks…

Had to dust off my ass after falling off my stool too.

JD_Wry

Pouzar: Just got back from the bar

Already? You drink like Eberle back-checks… 😉

Pouzar

Just got back from the bar….why does WG hate Drai?

Pouzar

Jethro Tull: Chuck Norris caught all the Pokémon.

From a land line.

*spits all over his laptop*

Centre of attention

Lowetide:
No one has official status here. I would run any of you over in a heartbeat, just for the thrill.

This is why I love this blog.

Woodguy

bendelson: I wouldn’t characterize your use of DrySaddle as ‘churlish’ Darcy.
More ‘lazy’ than anything else…
Woot!

This is the correct chacterization.

Lightgestalt

Hello all,
first time poster here. Thank you for this great blog, great discussions in the comment section.
There’s a question I’m thinking about asking you people for quite a while: If you are looking at WOWYs in order to find out if one player got zoomed by another, isn’t it quite important to compare quality of teammates and competition, shooting % and maybe other factors during the spells without instead of just looking at the bare numbers? I imagine it makes quite a difference if e.g. one is demoted most of the time, the other one elevated?
Do I miss something here?

Kiltymcbagpipes

Woodguy: Huh, never thought of it as churlish.

What would I be implying with DrySaddle to make it come across that way?

That he needs soap?

If others think the same way I’ll stop.

I do find it annoying also but I’m pretty sure a lot of things I say annoy people here so who am I to say 🙂

bendelson

Woodguy: I type DrySaddle much faster than Draisaitl though……

I wouldn’t characterize your use of DrySaddle as ‘churlish’ Darcy.
More ‘lazy’ than anything else…
Woot!

Kiltymcbagpipes

trueoil: I’ve only been reading this blog for a few months and I’m more than fine with most of the nicknames used,I use them too. Dry Saddle just sticks out as churlish.

Really hoping that ‘pool party’ doesn’t stick for our latest new arrival with an unusual name.

Me too. Letestube however should be allowed since he has pretty much earned it although Korpse was my favourite

John Chambers

In terms of deployment the Oilers could use a versatile C/W player to help shorten the bench.

I see a starting lineup that looks like:

Maroon – McDavid – Eberle
Pouliot – RNH – Kassian
Lucic – Draisaitl – Yakupov
Hendrix – Letestu – Pak

With a 3rd period lineup of:
Lucic – McDavid – Eberle
Pouliot – Nuge – Drai
Hendrix – Letestu – Kassian

Draisaitl and Lucic get bumped up to bolster the offensive lines while Kassian reverts to a checking winger role.

Maroon, Yakupov, and Pak ride pine with Maroon slotting for Hendricks if down a goal rather than up.

trueoil

Woodguy: Huh, never thought of it as churlish.

What would I be implying with DrySaddle to make it come across that way?

That he needs soap?

If others think the same way I’ll stop.

I type DrySaddle much faster than Draisaitl though……

Just ‘drai’ is faster than both.

Not speculating on implications.

John Chambers

rickithebear: No Think Kopitar behind Mcdavid!

It might just all become really spectacular, really soon.

Woodguy

rickithebear,

The WOWY at Corsica.hockey is pretty cool

Click “combos” (two crossed sticks) on front page.

Click WOWY in the top bar when in Combos

Right now its only two person WOWY, but the level of info is fantastic.

You are able to choose the type of metrics to pick as well.

Seeing the difference in CF% compared to xGF% in many WOWY is part of what helped convince me that RickiTheBear’sBoxProtection, was not only measurable, but more important than I thought.

Woodguy

trueoil: churlish

Huh, never thought of it as churlish.

What would I be implying with DrySaddle to make it come across that way?

That he needs soap?

If others think the same way I’ll stop.

I type DrySaddle much faster than Draisaitl though……

Woodguy

rickithebear: Do you guys strip the data from NHL yourselves.
I have never been able to achieve this break down!

Nba breaks it down into 5 man units!
4man units
3 man units

this paired with unit versus unit measures.

I can dream!

That’s from: http://puckalytics.com/superwowy.html

Our goal is to have something similar except with more metrics (DFF etc)

Yes, G scrapes all the games sheets from the NHL.

It takes some really hefty computing power and a good, quick, well organized data base to pull these types of WOWY off.

Woodguy

Kiltymcbagpipes: Ha. That’s your opinion.

Question for the group. If Drai is the bigger offensive threat, better face off guy and whatever else why is everyone suggesting he plays 3rd line C? Why can’t he center say Pouliot and Eberle on the 2nd line with Nuge taking advantage of the mismatches on the 3rd? Is it to justify Nuge’s salary or strictly based on age? I could be off base but I have a hard time picturing Drai NOT in the top 6 where I could see Nuge as #3C although them together is still my preference.

Because LeonDraisaitlDrySaddle doesn’t have a history of being able to handle that comp without Hall.

His entire time last year was softer comp, mostly with Yak.

This year 878min of his 1038min was with Hall, and I’m not sure where he slotted in his other 160 min.

RNH has that track record, so you slot him there.

Slotting players above their established NHL ability is the main reason the Oilers have been awful.

They are a deep enough team to not do that, so don’t do that.

If he earns its, has to fill and does well etc,. then that’s great.

Banking on it is not great.

rickithebear

Woodguy:
Re: Hall – Draisaitl WOWY

Its best to look at 3 man units last year as it gives us more information.

I’m using goals and corsi as goals are notoriously volatile in small samples.You’ll notice how “normal” the small sample corsis look compared to the small sample goals.

Using Goals
Hall-RNH-Drai93min 4.50 GF/60, 1.93 GA/60, GF%70 (7GF, 3GA)

Hall-Drai-Purcell 480min GF/60 3.12/60, GA/60 2.75,GF%53.2 (25GF, 22GA)

Hall-Drai-Kassian 80min 1.50 GF/60, 0.75 GA/60, GF%66.7 (2GF, 1GA)

Hal-Drai-Eberle 56min 0 GF/60, 2.12 GA/60, GF% 0 (0GF, 2GA)

Hall-Drai-Pakarinen 52min 1.15 GF/60, 3.45 GA/60, GF%25 (1GF,3GA)

Hall-Drai-Yak 47min 2.52 GF/60, 5.05 GA/60, GF% 33.3 (2GF, 4GA)

Hall-Drai-Maroon 36min 6.67 GF/60 , 3.33 GA/60, GF% 66.7 (4GF, 2GA)

Using Corsi
Hall-RNH-Drai 93min CF/60 55.9, CA/60 54.6, CF% 50.6

Hall-Drai-Purcell 480min CF/60 62.3, CA/60 50.6, CF% 55.2

Hall-Drai-Kassian 80min CF/60 50.3, CA/60 60.8, CF% 45.3

Hal-Drai-Eberle 56min CF/60 55.1, CA/60 63.6, CF% 46.4

Hall-Drai-Pakarinen 52min CF/60 43.7, CA/60 43.7, CF%50.0

Hall-Drai-Yak 47min CF/60 58.0, CA/60 55.5, CF% 51.1

Hall-Drai-Maroon 36min CF/60 75.0, CA/60 70.0 CF% 51.7

This accounts for 846min of the 878min that Hall and Drai played together

Do you guys strip the data from NHL yourselves.
I have never been able to achieve this break down!

Nba breaks it down into 5 man units!
4man units
3 man units

this paired with unit versus unit measures.

I can dream!

trueoil

Woodguy:
trueoil,

And maybe if Woodguy is going to have semi official status here for his work he could show some respect and stop spelling Leon’s name “Dry Saddle”.

Two things:

1) Semi-official what?

2) I have been using DrySaddle here and at my blog since he was drafted 2 years ago.Its not a disrespectful name.No one knew how to pronounce his name at the start and DrySaddle is surprising close phonetically.

Since you are the first person in 2 years to mention it as disrespectful, I’m going to have conclude that your opinion on the matter is the outlier.

If you’re Leon or his Dad, please contact me, if not, I’ll keep it.

I’ve only been reading this blog for a few months and I’m more than fine with most of the nicknames used,I use them too. Dry Saddle just sticks out as churlish.

Really hoping that ‘pool party’ doesn’t stick for our latest new arrival with an unusual name.

rickithebear

John Chambers:
Drai is our second most valuable asset. He’s going to have a phenomenal career playing C behind McDavid. Think Jeff Carter behind Kopitar.

Comparing his progression to another similar big Centre, drafted in a similar spot, Ryan Johansson, Drai is ahead of where RyJo was developmentally at this stage.

Like RyJo, Draisaitl would likely emerge as a bona fide #1C in his draft +4 season. My guess is that he hits 50 pts again this year playing both C and wing, while playing regular minutes in the pp. I wouldn’t be surprised if he emerged as a top-notch 2C this season, finishing second in the Oilers in scoring.

I believe TMac and Chia believe in Drai so much that their preference was to trade Hall ahead of him, and I believe they made the right choice.

No Think Kopitar behind Mcdavid!

🙂

bendelson

dustrock:

And I will maybe see some of you at the Trag show tonight.

One last romp at Rexall tonight. Good times.

And don’t you dare pay for parking Dusty!

BENDELSON says:
April 6, 2016 at 3:54 pm
Now that it doesn’t matter anymore…
80 St. just north of 119th Ave.
Free parking. Always available.
As previously mentioned, it includes a delightful stroll through James Kidney Park on the way to the LRT tunnel.
The ‘secret’ is OUT!

Jethro Tull

dustrock:
Woodguy,

I dunno Woodguy, his handle is “trueoil”, so maybe you’d better get out of your parents’ basement and get outdoors to play some Pokemon Go.

Chuck Norris caught all the Pokémon.

From a land line.

dustrock

Woodguy,

I dunno Woodguy, his handle is “trueoil”, so maybe you’d better get out of your parents’ basement and get outdoors to play some Pokemon Go.

Kiltymcbagpipes

Jethro Tull: Know your memes.

At the end of the day, what the hell does it matter?If you’re going to insist that one player’s name is spelled correctly, then you can’t use Drai either.And every player’s name has to be spelled correctly.

I have never picked up any disrespect from WG regarding Herr Leon Draisaitl, esq.

His official nickname is “The Professional” according to Wikipedia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Draisaitl

Drai is so much easier….

Woodguy

Just read that Gormley signed for $650K in NJD.

Last chance Texaco for him.

Poor Taylor, on a meh team with an internal budget.

Woodguy

trueoil,

And maybe if Woodguy is going to have semi official status here for his work he could show some respect and stop spelling Leon’s name “Dry Saddle”.

Two things:

1) Semi-official what?

2) I have been using DrySaddle here and at my blog since he was drafted 2 years ago. Its not a disrespectful name. No one knew how to pronounce his name at the start and DrySaddle is surprising close phonetically.

Since you are the first person in 2 years to mention it as disrespectful, I’m going to have conclude that your opinion on the matter is the outlier.

If you’re Leon or his Dad, please contact me, if not, I’ll keep it.

Woodguy

Re: Hall – Draisaitl WOWY

Its best to look at 3 man units last year as it gives us more information.

I’m using goals and corsi as goals are notoriously volatile in small samples. You’ll notice how “normal” the small sample corsis look compared to the small sample goals.

Using Goals
Hall-RNH-Drai 93min 4.50 GF/60, 1.93 GA/60, GF%70 (7GF, 3GA)

Hall-Drai-Purcell 480min GF/60 3.12/60, GA/60 2.75, GF%53.2 (25GF, 22GA)

Hall-Drai-Kassian 80min 1.50 GF/60, 0.75 GA/60, GF%66.7 (2GF, 1GA)

Hal-Drai-Eberle 56min 0 GF/60, 2.12 GA/60, GF% 0 (0GF, 2GA)

Hall-Drai-Pakarinen 52min 1.15 GF/60, 3.45 GA/60, GF%25 (1GF,3GA)

Hall-Drai-Yak 47min 2.52 GF/60, 5.05 GA/60, GF% 33.3 (2GF, 4GA)

Hall-Drai-Maroon 36min 6.67 GF/60 , 3.33 GA/60, GF% 66.7 (4GF, 2GA)

Using Corsi
Hall-RNH-Drai 93min CF/60 55.9, CA/60 54.6, CF% 50.6

Hall-Drai-Purcell 480min CF/60 62.3, CA/60 50.6, CF% 55.2

Hall-Drai-Kassian 80min CF/60 50.3, CA/60 60.8, CF% 45.3

Hal-Drai-Eberle 56min CF/60 55.1, CA/60 63.6, CF% 46.4

Hall-Drai-Pakarinen 52min CF/60 43.7, CA/60 43.7, CF%50.0

Hall-Drai-Yak 47min CF/60 58.0, CA/60 55.5, CF% 51.1

Hall-Drai-Maroon 36min CF/60 75.0, CA/60 70.0 CF% 51.7

This accounts for 846min of the 878min that Hall and Drai played together

Jethro Tull

trueoil: And maybe if Woodguy is going to have semi official status here for his work he could show some respect and stop spelling Leon’s name “Dry Saddle”.

Know your memes.

At the end of the day, what the hell does it matter? If you’re going to insist that one player’s name is spelled correctly, then you can’t use Drai either. And every player’s name has to be spelled correctly.

I have never picked up any disrespect from WG regarding Herr Leon Draisaitl, esq.

npanciroli

trueoil: I think the biases of several members of this board get in the way and even slant their take on the stats.
If the plan is to keep down Drai’s productivity so we can sign him cheap next year we will lose him to a team that values him and there are many of them.

And maybe if Woodguy is going to have semi official status here for his work he could show some respect and stop spelling Leon’s name “Dry Saddle”.

To me the goal isn’t to keep down Drai’s productivity. I think that just happens naturally with less even strength minutes. To me the goal is running 3 lines to create mismatches in a game and how I do that is RNH on the second line with Pouliot and Eberle or Yak.

trueoil

Kiltymcbagpipes: Ha. That’s your opinion.

Question for the group. If Drai is the bigger offensive threat, better face off guy and whatever else why is everyone suggesting he plays 3rd line C? Why can’t he center say Pouliot and Eberle on the 2nd line with Nuge taking advantage of the mismatches on the 3rd? Is it to justify Nuge’s salary or strictly based on age? I could be off base but I have a hard time picturing Drai NOT in the top 6 where I could see Nuge as #3C although them together is still my preference.

I think the biases of several members of this board get in the way and even slant their take on the stats.
If the plan is to keep down Drai’s productivity so we can sign him cheap next year we will lose him to a team that values him and there are many of them.

And maybe if Woodguy is going to have semi official status here for his work he could show some respect and stop spelling Leon’s name “Dry Saddle”.

npanciroli

Kiltymcbagpipes: Ha. That’s your opinion.

Question for the group. If Drai is the bigger offensive threat, better face off guy and whatever else why is everyone suggesting he plays 3rd line C? Why can’t he center say Pouliot and Eberle on the 2nd line with Nuge taking advantage of the mismatches on the 3rd? Is it to justify Nuge’s salary or strictly based on age? I could be off base but I have a hard time picturing Drai NOT in the top 6 where I could see Nuge as #3C although them together is still my preference.

I think Nuge is more fit for harder minutes and better defensively. Drai to me can get the mismatches with Maroon and JP facing weaker competition.

Late game roll with,

Lucic McDavid Eberle/Drai
Pouliot RNH Drai/Eberle

Jethro Tull

If Klef is paired with Larrson, does that mean our D has been ‘Sweded’?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sweded

Kiltymcbagpipes

All this being said, a smart coach plays Drai as 3C and works for a match up with with 3 lines that can score

Ha. That’s your opinion. 🙂

Question for the group. If Drai is the bigger offensive threat, better face off guy and whatever else why is everyone suggesting he plays 3rd line C? Why can’t he center say Pouliot and Eberle on the 2nd line with Nuge taking advantage of the mismatches on the 3rd? Is it to justify Nuge’s salary or strictly based on age? I could be off base but I have a hard time picturing Drai NOT in the top 6 where I could see Nuge as #3C although them together is still my preference.

PunkInDrublic