SOMEONE BELONGS TO EVERYONE (AND NO ONE BELONGS TO ME)

by Lowetide

I would get the papers after school—maybe 3:45—from the Sears on the highway. The Saskatoon Star-Phoenix provided two bags and I would put about 30 in each—they gave you extra, but my Dad always subscribed anyway. In summer, later in July, I would do the north side of town and then the east and then come downtown to Rexall Drugs. If the July Hockey News was in (and I would have been checking for a couple of weeks), all I had to do was deliver main street and then head home past the post office, credit union and the Co-op.

The July edition of The Hockey News had all of the trades, and complete draft coverage. I remember the 1974 edition best, they drafted 247 players that year and by midnight of the first night in my hands I had memorized the Bruins and Seals picks. To this day, I can tell you things about some of them I bet you do not know:

  • Boston drafted Mark Howe, who at that time (1974 summer) was coming off a 38-goal season with the Houston Aeros of the WHA. He would never play in Boston, instead entering the NHL in 1979 as a member of the New England Whalers. He was a LW in 1974, and a great one, too. By 1979 he was a dynamic defender and a future Hall of Famer. He suffered a horrible injury in 1980 when he slid into the pointed metal center of the net and cut a five inch gash in his upper thigh. He was essentially impaled by the metal, and the injury, which nearly ended his career, prompted the NHL to change the design of its nets so that there would no longer be a center portion that jutted up toward the goal line. He never played for any of my favorite teams, but Boston drafted him and I liked him for his entire career because of it.
  • Boston drafted Tom Edur that year. Edur became famous (for me) as one of the few famous Jehovah’s Witnesses of my young life—he actually retired from the game in order to minister his faith to others. It was a pretty big story at the time (this was later in the 1970s), but I knew who he was because I had memorized his name from that 1974 Hockey News.
  • California drafted Charlie Simmer, I knew his name in July 1974. He didn’t become really famous until 1979 as a member of the Los Angeles Kings, but I followed his career as a Seal prospect for several years. Simmer came into pro hockey at a time when good young players were losing a chance to develop due to finances. There were some (I could find the stories in old HNs) were entire leagues were cutting down to survive—gas shortage, bankruptcy, God knows what all. Simmer was signed by the Los Angeles Kings after the Cleveland Barons (the Seals moved there in the 1970s) in the period after the Barons released all of their prospects in an effort to save money. All of them.
  • Ron Chipperfield was a very famous prospect in 1974, I thought he would go No. 1 overall on the strength of scoring 90 goals for the Brandon Wheat Kings in 1973-74. He went late in Round 1 (skating issues) but for me it was extra reason to cheer for him. When Chipperfield landed in Edmonton as an Oiler, I had about six years of intel on him—and extra heartbreak when he was traded to the Quebec Nordiques at a difficult time for him.

Prospects. I have always followed them, their careers and their travels. So, when Anton Lander was drafted in 2009, I did what the Hockey News used to do for me—gathered all of the intel available and started a file on him. Lander is pretty close to an ideal Lowetide prospect—smart, two-way center, maybe a little shy offensively but carrying other things that give him value. I think Lander was mishandled at times during his Oilers career, but he has also had periods of poor or inconsistent play that helped get him here. In my mental file, Anton Lander is as important as Tom Edur and Charlie Simmer and all of the others who have come along over these many years. I think that is, at the heart of things, the reason I am a fan. Caring about players based on their story, the story you place around them combined with on-ice feats you witness. I care about Anton Lander, today. I hope things go well for him, and I will think of him—as I did of Ron Chipperfield when finding out about the wildly unfair circumstances surrounding his life at the time of his trade to Quebec—and wonder about him as his life rolls out, here or in another town. It is the people and their stories that breathe life into the relationship between fan and team. The Anton Lander file has reached a fork in the road, but it will not end, today. Godspeed, Anton Lander, and I hope you find your place in the sun.

ROSTER CUT DOWN DAY!

opening-night-oct-10-potential-roster

  • Anton Lander, Kris Versteeg and Matt Benning are on the outside looking in currently. That could change for one or more today.
  • Waivers (as we discussed yesterday) are possible and RW, C and D are available who could help. It is late in the process to add a player, but we will see.
  • Players who we would not have picked at the beginning of camp as locks: Matt Benning, Tyler Pitlick, Anton Slepyshev, Drake Caggiula.
  • Jesse Puljujarvi looks like a roster player for opening night, lots of upset people about this decision. I will tell you that he does not look like a fish out of water out there (good at marking his man, very physical, can win battles) and that he is probably one of the four best RW options at this time. I think expecting anything more than a goal every four games or so is unreasonable. His RE is here. It is reasonable to expect JP to play in Edmonton and Bakersfield this season.
  • Leon Draisaitl is a key player for this team. Placing him on RW confirms (imo) the Oilers are worried about offense sans Taylor Hall for the line that goes over the boards after McDavid. Vital that 2line scores regularly, I think 50+ goals is a reasonable goal for Pouliot-Nuge-Leon.

TOWER OF BABEL

Back when I was a mod for HFboards, it became clear to me that there was a generation gap—and I was on the old man side of it. It took me some time to understand that younger people (HF’s posters were universally younger than me) had no trouble using hyperbole or what I would consider inflammatory words in normal conversation.

So people would get timed out or banned by me for things that weren’t really worth banning. To this day, I will say ‘this player is perhaps unready’ whereas the 2001 HFboards member might say ‘the guy is crap’ and what has changed is that I have learned to live with it. When chatting back and forth with the yutes of 2001, sometimes I would give my ‘more flies with honey’ speech and they would politely listen and then go on with their lives—which is probably what I would have done at the same age.

Fifteen years on and the conversation hasn’t gotten as far was many of us hoped, and I think part of that comes from the generation gap mentioned above. There are discussions that can be had, one side to the other, but the math folks grow weary of re-explaining things and the older set gets pissed at being patronized. And so it goes.

I have no answer, and increasingly find myself isolated from both msm and the entire math society. Never an insider in either arena, I kept sifting through what was available (and what I could understand) for one true thing. When I found it (varies, but for defensemen it is Corsi for RelTm 5×5), it became my default position until further notice.

What I find now is a lot of men and women in the field, miles smarter than me and each it seems with their own Bible. Back in the day, the way things usually worked went like this: Vic or Tyler would write a post (or someone else) and the group would chime in with ideas, eventually reaching a conclusion or growing another arm or statistic. That was the deal, kind of like a melting pot.

Now? Tower of Babel. I have no answers for you, remain hopeful that WoodMoney gets published and wait for Tyler Dellow to land somewhere in media and find a larger platform. In the meantime, I do gather what I can, ask questions of those I trust and look forward to another period of enlightenment.

For what it’s worth, here is what the numbers I value tell us about Kris Russell:

  1. Mark Giordano 2.6
  2. TJ Brodie 1.7
  3. Dougie Hamilton 1.7
  4. Jyrki Jokipakka -1.8
  5. Derek Engelland -3.7
  6. Dennis Wideman -3.7
  7. Kris Russell -4.7 (also includes Dallas numbers)
  8. Source

That is CorsiFor%/RelTeam at 5×5, and gives us a good look into Kris Russell as a player. I spoke to Kent Wilson the other day, the impression I got of Russell was as a third-pairing blue who could be deployed on the second power play. That seems completely reasonable to me, although the shot blocking verbal sometimes implies we are looking at a defensive defender. Again for what it is worth, allow me to publish the Oilers numbers from last season:

  1. Brandon Davidson 4.1
  2. Oscar Klefbom 1.9
  3. Eric Gryba 1.2
  4. Mark Fayne 0.6
  5. Andrej Sekera 0.1
  6. Griffin Reinhart -2.9
  7. Darnell Nurse -4.8

For Sekera and Fayne, we need to remember they were playing tougher opposition, but then again I have read many places where Kris Russell is manna from heaven because he can replace Mark Fayne. Bottom line: We all evaluate things differently, and in other spots on the internet (twitter is now a snake pit) people are no longer talking to each other, rather across each other. Blocking someone means failure, not success. We would do well to remember that, and for men and women who are my age we should also remember that aggressive verbal from a younger person does not mean their words have no value. It is a very difficult time to be an adult learner, and I find myself distressed at how so few people are open to new ideas—or to the possibility their language and Bible may not be the truth and the light. Hail Mary, full of grace.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Scott Burnside, ESPN. Sidney Crosby’s concussion isn’t good news for anyone.
  • Jonathan Willis, Cult of Hockey. Oilers waivers, final roster set.
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Crosby, mlb playoffs, CFL weekend.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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hunter1909

Centre of attention: Iginla would have risk. 39 years old. His contract is almost up though. Scored 22 last year. Could probably be your power play hammer but would need sheltered minutes 5×5.

Who knows, maybe he hits 40 years old and decides to go full Jagr? Doubtful.

It would for sure be a “Chiarelli” move though, and Iggy is a Chiarelli player-type. IIRC, Chiarelli tried moving the moon in order to keep Iginla in Boston.

iginla would be incredible. The Flames would implode for a start.

hunter1909

JDï™,

Outstanding question.

Please ask this here:

hunter2909@Safe-mail.net

Thank you for your cooperation

New Improved Darkness

Yes, as many others have said already, great post LT.

I have a few things I might say in response, once these inhibitory french fries fall out of my nose, as they surely will, for even the best best-behaviour banana sauce b-b-b-breaks eventually.

spoiler

stevezie,

This remains to be seen. Possibly true, but I’m not convinced it is. If it is an easy address, that shouldn’t change mid-season. Replacement-strength wingers are the most common asset there is… maybe backup goalies depending on the definition of terms.

spoiler

Bruce Wayne:
What is the difference between intellectual humility and the inability to see clearly?

Why is forever suspending judgement, “waiting to see” intellectual humility and not, willful ignorance?How can you tell the difference?

This is how the goalposts are forever being moved, because no matter the situation there is always some piece of it which we do not know, which allows for an indefinite suspension of judgement.Moreover, this suspension of judgment is, by its nature, capricious.It is not applied universally, but only to those who it wants to defend.In this regard it is in practice what it is in theory, unprincipled.

Film noir.

Side

The overreaction in this thread is amazing. I hope all of you who said you are no longer Oilers fans stick to your word – more seats for me to pick from in Rogers!

Also, it’s madness how people are predicting the Oilers are going to get 60 something or 70 something points. This is the most balanced roster we have had in the last decade with a generational talent in McDavid and you think we’re going to end up last, again?

The only way the Oilers are at the bottom is if their top 2 lines, the top 4 D and Talbot get injured long term and at the same time.

Woodguy

stevezie:
Woodguy,

All of the available options were flawed players (none moreso thank Yak), but they were free and would offer depth.

If one of Caggiula or JP struggles out of the gate, or if anyone in the top nine gets hurt, we are in big trouble.

The specific guys we don’t have isn’t the issue. The overall lack of depth is.

And it could have been addressed so easily.

I’m not sure the marginal difference between all the players involved is enough to get excited about.

I saw Caggulia, Slappy and Pitlick good this TC and saw Khaira good last year (good fancies too).

No question that it’s a downgrade, but I’m unsure how much of a downgrade it is.

Its not Lennart Pettrell, Eager and Hordichuk making the team.

stevezie

Oilspill,

Fayne might go for someone else”s Fayne. We could use a penalty killing forward, a lot of those guys are old and overpaid.

stevezie

Woodguy,

All of the available options were flawed players (none moreso thank Yak), but they were free and would offer depth.

If one of Caggiula or JP struggles out of the gate, or if anyone in the top nine gets hurt, we are in big trouble.

The specific guys we don’t have isn’t the issue. The overall lack of depth is.

And it could have been addressed so easily.

jm363561

judgedrude:
Fayne won’t be traded until the Ference LTIR, right?Because Fayne’s contract will help push up the maximum cap overage.

Anybody have the list yet for cap compliance?

Very good point.

jm363561

Nate780:
Yegfoundation,
I will continue to be an Oiler’s enthusiast/observer, but at this time, I can no longer call myself an Oiler’s Fan.
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must be nice to just jump ship whenever you feel like it.
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I love the way this is announced like some royal proclamation. Hear ye, hear ye, let it be known to all men that I am now merely observing the Edmonton Oilers and no longer supporting them.

In which case some might say you were never a fan.

Good morning from Manila by the way. Going back to sleep. Losing Versteeg is no big deal. No plan B; two rookies on line 3; and 5LHD all are. When Trouba arrives all will be forgiven. Hear ye, hear ye, now I really am going back to sleep.

Oilspill

Ok ok. Why if you are an opposing GM would you trade for Fayne?
1. Poor defensively
2. Poor Passer
3. Not Gritty
4. Weak offensively.
5 Ridiculous contract.

Gryba was better in all catagories and didn’t get picked up.
Opposing GM wants to get better. He won’t help. They will play youth from the AHL who’d likely do better.
I don’t know to this day why he wasn’t bought out For 1.3mil for 4 years.

Ray:
If Fayne is going for a winger, Matt Read in Philly has an identical deal as his and Philly has even fewer RD than us.

They also have quite a few young forwards trying to break through.

Might be a fit there

Woodguy

Centre of attention: the fact they didn’t claim someone when they knew Versteeg is not a sure thing IS worth some vitrol. Maybe not as much as some (including myself) have displayed, but you can understand with recent events a large portion of the fan base (including myself) are on edge.

Agree though we should be used to this by now with Tambi, Lowe, MacT era’s all proving to be survivable. My apologies for venting in such a way.

I liked a couple of RHC on waivers, but remember that these players are marginal NHLers and Oiler have lots of those under contract.

Frank the dog

Yegfoundation:
Oh, those Oilers!

IMO, losing Versteeg is a big deal, and will mean more minutes for rookies, which history shows is challenging when one is trying to win hockey games.

I mean no offence to any Oiler fan when I say, that I’m rooting for the Jets and Flames this season, as I believe good management should be rewarded, and poor management (see the Edmonton Oiler’s) should be punished with respect to league standings.

I will continue to be an Oiler’s enthusiast/observer, but at this time, I can nolonger call myself an Oiler’s Fan.

Many of us have had to cool off the Oil for awhile. No big deal.

judgedrude

Fayne won’t be traded until the Ference LTIR, right? Because Fayne’s contract will help push up the maximum cap overage.

Anybody have the list yet for cap compliance?

stevezie

Frank the dog,

The Oilers didn’t pass on him though, they offered him a contract and he left them holding the bag to go to a better organization.

If they had passed on him they might have explored some kind of depth. I’m well aware that Yak, Parenteau and Pulkkinen are all flawed players, but the current plan requires two rookies to be good as of game 1 and for no one to get hurt. They could have had JP and Caggiula in the minors as depth for the inevitable injury but they chose not to.

Other than Yak every contract discussed could have been buried in the minors if it didn’t work out. This was some terrible management.

I am 34, but I side with LT on some language issues. I don’t like hearing armchair folks like me calling top level players “garbage” or “bad at hockey”, so I won’t call Chiarelli an idiot. But he sure seems to be a bad GM.

I know I seem angry, but I really can’t stop laughing. Versteeg turning them down hours after the waiver wires close is hilarious.

They could probably easily trade for some of these guys (they’re on waivers, how valued could they be?), but I’ll give them credit for doing that once it’s done. So far they have missed almost every opportunity presented.

N64

Nate780:
Hall of Shame,

I don’t agree with a lot of what has happened, but at least something has happened, an honest effort to improve. which is more than we can say about the last decade.

I’m not all that happy with the Yakupov trade and the Russel signing. Not as upset as others over the Hall trade. Honestly, i feel like i should be mad, but i’m just happy that there are actually changes being made to this team.

Whether they’re good or not, will take time to see, i’m not going to flip a switch during preseason.

Chiarelli certainly isn’t afraid to make changes. Which delights the fans and perhaps the other GM’s who are looking at a trifecta when they set their collective premium for trading with the Oil: losing team premium + small canadian market + gm in a hurry premium.

I’m rooting for the players and coaches and their efforts to build a team that’s more than just a great core of young ones. If the gunslinger short term focused GM actually beats the house, music. But not expecting much from PC in terms of real contributions towards winning Stanley.

stevezie

Trading Yak and ignoring Parenteau and Pulkkinen to make room for Versteeg only to have him sign elsewhere is hilarious.

Chiarelli is a bad GM. If he wants to change that opinion he needs to change the evidence. The benefit of the doubt on future moves is long, long gone.

Frank the dog

linkfromhyrule: Agreed. How can they look at:
Eberle
Puljujarvi
Kassian

and think that Versteeg is not only worse than all 3, but also worse than Draisaitl playing wing, to the point where he should only play every other night. WTF? He would be at minimum 3rd best RW on the team. Even if Puljujarvi plays amazing, why would Kassian play over him?

Then on top of it, they signed Russel (LD) and Gryba (RD), and sent Gryba to the AHL. Why? Now we have Gryba and Fraser eating up minutes in Bakersfield. I hope that Sportlogiq is right about Russel, because I’ve not seen anything to improve what I thought of him prior to the signing. Now Chia is talking long term signing before he’s even played an actual game. What benefit does that provide?

So many questions…

Are you an orthopedic surgeon ? The Swiss aren’t stupid and they passed on him after they discovered that he had hip surgery in the past. Every other team passed on him until now. You can bet the Oil got expert opinions on him and decided to sign him on the basis of how much they could realistically expect him to play in a regular season. The Oil offered him what he was worth to them.
Did you see how a hip injury impacted TFCAF? It’s not funny, and a team can only play as well as the players they can ice, e.g. last season. We can’t afford as many injuries as we had last year, Versteeg would have been good insurance, but he was worth more down south.
I have no problem with that. But as for Bookjie………
Edit: On reflection that’s a bit sharp. But I find it tiresome how often people call others stupid when in fact they simply lack the information that was on hand to make decisions.

Bank Shot

Doug McLachlan:
Versteeg was brought in for JP (and the dearly departed Yakupov) to outplay.

Yakupov didn’t and while JP didn’t light it up, he held his own on the 200ft part of the game – the more difficult part for a rookie to master.

Did JP really hold his own?

He looked overmatched all camp to me.

I’m not upset that Chiarelli missed on versteeg in particular. he’s not the hill to die on, but he should have brought in another veteran RW for sure.

That is the missed opportunity. Now JP makes the Oilers by default.

Centre of attention

Woodguy:
I’ve been an attentive fan during Lowe, Tambellini and MacT as GM.

Chris Versteeg chosing CGY over EDM due to ability to pump his numbers for his next contract is not worth all the weeping and wailing and wearing of sack clothe.

It’s unfortunate, but it not worth the vitrol in this thread.

the fact they didn’t claim someone when they knew Versteeg is not a sure thing IS worth some vitrol. Maybe not as much as some (including myself) have displayed, but you can understand with recent events a large portion of the fan base (including myself) are on edge.

Agree though we should be used to this by now with Tambi, Lowe, MacT era’s all proving to be survivable. My apologies for venting in such a way.

frjohnk

Just a few days ago, I said , Watch Yakupov get traded, Versteeg doesnt sign here and EBERLE will get hurt. JP will then be on the 1st line.

so far 2 out of 4 I got right and the season has not started.

classict

Woodguy,

Agreed. But maybe it’s not just the Versteeg issue in a bubble that’s making people upset. 🙂 If a guy like Versteeg doesn’t sign off a PTO on a playoff team, probably none of that teams fan’s care. At some point there’s a last straw for people… I’m not there yet myself.

The Oilers haven’t had a “Wow they really fleeced those guys!” move in so long.

However on another note, Versteeg does impact the depth, and they will have to address it at some point this season. There is reason to be concerned about how they will address it.

Nate780

Hall of Shame,

I don’t agree with a lot of what has happened, but at least something has happened, an honest effort to improve. which is more than we can say about the last decade.

I’m not all that happy with the Yakupov trade and the Russel signing. Not as upset as others over the Hall trade. Honestly, i feel like i should be mad, but i’m just happy that there are actually changes being made to this team.

Whether they’re good or not, will take time to see, i’m not going to flip a switch during preseason.

Doug McLachlan

Versteeg was brought in for JP (and the dearly departed Yakupov) to outplay.

Yakupov didn’t and while JP didn’t light it up, he held his own on the 200ft part of the game – the more difficult part for a rookie to master.

I would have preferred Versteeg because of the options he provided but they gave an honest assessment of where they saw him fitting in and, surprise, he chose to play top-line minutes in Calgary.

To guarantee Versteeg time on Nuge’s line, let alone McDavid’s, would not have been right. He doesn’t play ahead of Eberle and I understand (though don’t agree with) the idea of stacking the top 6. Versteeg wasn’t going to crack that.

A free-agent took the better deal – that isn’t on Chia, this is on McLellan insisting on putting the big German in the top 6.

marty62

Woodguy:
I’ve been an attentive fan during Lowe, Tambellini and MacT as GM.

Chris Versteeg chosing CGY over EDM due to ability to pump his numbers for his next contract is not worth all the weeping and wailing and wearing of sack clothe.

It’s unfortunate, but it not worth the vitrol in this thread.

This all day long

Woodguy

I’ve been an attentive fan during Lowe, Tambellini and MacT as GM.

Chris Versteeg chosing CGY over EDM due to ability to pump his numbers for his next contract is not worth all the weeping and wailing and wearing of sack clothe.

It’s unfortunate, but it not worth the vitrol in this thread.

classict

Clay,

Wow where have I heard that before? Can we even count on one hand the number of times we’ve expected this from rookies?

And what if he doesn’t deliver, we use another rookie or keep letting him struggle?

Bank Shot

commonfan14:
Failure to sign Versteeg might not be that big a deal. Neither was the failed Tkachev contract.

Why both failures are important, however, is that they speak to competence.

He was offered a contract by Edmonton and reportedly didn’t sign it.

I’m not sure its really Chiarelli’s fault that Versteeg didn’t sign.

I guess he could have offered the contract sooner. I’m not sure when it was offered.

Apparently Treveling approached Versteeg’s agent after Versteeg had signed a PTO with Edmonton so Versteeg knew Calgary had interest the entire time, and no competition at RW.

Smart move by Versteeg to sign there. Will score more points playing with Gaudreau and Monahan then on the Oilers second or third lines.

Centre of attention

Clay:
Somewhere around mid-February, when Pulju scores his 20th goal, while Versteeg hits the 40-games-lost-due-to-injury mark, we’ll all look back on today and laugh and laugh.

“Remember how much we thought we needed Versteeg?God, I was so worked up!Boy, Calgary has sure been scrambling trying to replace him.This Pullyourarmy kid is really sumpin, hey?Good times.”

I really, really, hope you’re correct.

Bling

The Versteeg thing is strange.

If JP struggles, will they give him the Nurse/Lander/Gagner/Cogliano/Paajarvi/Yakupov treatment and let him figure it out in the bigs?

Frank the dog

verite:
Chiarelli is an incompetent
We all know this

Does anyone really believe that this team will get any more than 60 points?

How many games before thieir ffirst win?10, at least.

I smell a bet here.

Soup Fascist

I have a feeling Fayne may be waived when roster is finalized. Call me crazy.

Bling

When Chia says organizational analytics has Russell as the 2nd best in the NHL in controlled zone entries, we can be certain that there is a problem with data collection, analysis, interpretation AND pro-scouting.

That is a statement that cannot be backed up by numbers or eye.

I am fine with Russell as a 3rd pairing D, but Chia is stretching things a lot.

Clay

Somewhere around mid-February, when Pulju scores his 20th goal, while Versteeg hits the 40-games-lost-due-to-injury mark, we’ll all look back on today and laugh and laugh.

“Remember how much we thought we needed Versteeg? God, I was so worked up! Boy, Calgary has sure been scrambling trying to replace him. This Pullyourarmy kid is really sumpin, hey? Good times.”

commonfan29

Failure to sign Versteeg might not be that big a deal. Neither was the failed Tkachev contract.

Why both failures are important, however, is that they speak to competence.

N64

Nate780:
Yegfoundation,

they haven’t even played a game yet

Well he did say he can’t root for management and they those guys had all summer and more 😉

Honestly it’s a lot funner to root for the underdogs. The coaches and the players. And their season hasn’t started. The sausage makers? Not so much.

JD_Wry

Pouzar,

HugThePost,

It’s a win/win!

HugThePost

Pouzar: We need size on the wings damnnit!

People in Edmonton’s MSM need a player to label ‘enigmatic’!!

Pouzar

JDï™:

Aivis Kalniņš
‏@A_Kalnins


Team is not happy with Nichuskin’s performance, coach went after him, hearing team is considering releasing him from his contract.

Yikes. At least get a 3rd rounder for him!

We need size on the wings damnnit!

JD_Wry

Jethro Tull: Signed in Europe until he heard there was NHL interest, found a loophole, came to camp, the team even waits for him to recover from injury, then signs to division rival.

Although the team reported that he failed a medical.

With two teenage daughters, I would just turn off the internet for both parties until we get to the bottom of this.

JD_Wry


Aivis Kalniņš
‏@A_Kalnins

Team is not happy with Nichuskin’s performance, coach went after him, hearing team is considering releasing him from his contract.

Yikes. At least get a 3rd rounder for him!

Doug McLachlan

Forwards

Out: Hall, Purcell, Yakupov,Korpikoski, Klinkhammer, Gadzic
In : Lucic, Puljujarvi, Cagulia, Maroon, Kassian

Defense

Out: Schultz, Nikitin
In: Larsson, Russell

russ99

classict:
russ99,

So who plays that 2 RW spot on the road vs Kings or Ducks?

Kassian.

McLellan’s MO, 2 skill forwards and 1 big to keep the cycle going.

Oilspill

Well maybe in beer league soccer. These guys know that you go where it is best for you. There will be ZERO resentment!

Aron_S: I don’t play in the NHL but I do manage and play on a soccer team and when we had two players leave with no notice to play on a rival team (while we were still finalizing our roster), I can tell you there were some dark feelings. Some teammates were just disappointed, but others were mad as hell.

I think Versteeg is going to get a rough ride from a couple OIlers tomorrow night.

Jethro Tull

Are we forgetting what brought Versteeg to us in the first place?

Injury and an insurance “misunderstanding” after signing a contract in Europe.

This reeks of an agent being a douche. Signed in Europe until he heard there was NHL interest, found a loophole, came to camp, the team even waits for him to recover from injury, then signs to division rival.

This is on Versteeg, not Chia.

Strange, to strange to be coincidence.

Woodguy

godot10: Kris Russell gives an alternative and additional option to Fayne.Both are flawed.The Oilers played 14 defensemen last year.Russell is a better option than Fayne to play with a young guy like Nurse or Reinhart when the injuries hit this year.Fayne with anyone but Klefbom or Sekera will be a catastrophic pairing, and I think Klefbom himself struggled with Fayne last year. Russell has more versatility.Russell won’t fall off a cliff if one is forced to play him with Nurse or Reinhart.

Russell can probably also play McLellan’s system better.Both he and Fayne are weak at defending zone entries.But Russell is probably better at quick puck retrieval and passing.Think Pittsburgh using quick puck retrieval and placing a pass to an open spot to cover for a weak defense last year.

And if the Oilers forwards are better at sustaining a cycle, Russell will be better than Fayne in offensive support.

Russell was added for more depth more than anything else.Nurse and Larsson cover Gryba’s skill set.And Russell is a better option when injuries hit for playing with an inexperienced D.

Good post.

dangilitis

Centre of attention,

Iginla is a leader and a gamer who scored 47 pts last year on a bad team, he’s an Edmonton born player and best of all his presence on the oilers would devastate flames to the core. If fayne was traded and the return was iginla I would be extremely happy.

digger50

classict:
digger50,

Well the idea would be that Drai can play 3C if we had a winger, and that a winger would be easier to find than a centre.

But yea if there were a Versteeg/Paranteau ability 3C available that would be good. Hopefully they don’t over pay for one when the RW route could have been free.

Yes, logically if a winger could slot in 2RW then frees up Drai and that is what most fans deduce when they look at the roster. (Logically)

Problem being is MaClelland has Drai slotted into the top 6, and it would take a whole lot of convincing to change his mind

Even as many disagree, if you accept this as fact then it shows where the team feels it needs to add. They tried Anton, they will try Drake, and eventually fill the spot with someone new or have Drai back there.

I am absolutely okay with loading up the top six. My belief is the first ten games Oilers need to treat like the playoffs, these games will be that important to this team. Win and it changes everything.

For rookies, yes I want to see how Puljujarvi does, but if I see him 5 minutes a night for the first ten games whileMaClelland tries to win and set up the season, that’s fine. Plenty of time to look at rookies later.

Start winning and this allows the rookies to get a shot. So load up with proven players and play the first ten games like the playoffs.

JD_Wry

HugThePost: 5pm EST?

Fixed.

I expect there’s a backlog of transactions sitting on someone’s desk. I fully expected TSN’s twit page to be going flat-out since 3 pm, but nothing.