WHEN SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH MY BABY (THEN SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH ME

by Lowetide

In what can only be described as a surprising day, the Edmonton Oilers showed a massive—and possibly unwise—amount of confidence in their internal wingers. Nail Yakupov is in St. Louis, Kris Versteeg is in Calgary, and Eric Gryba the defenseman is here. What an unusual day. Breaking news: None of this will make enough of a difference for you to break a sweat. Calm your tits.

EDMONTON OILERS 50-MAN LIST (CURRENT)

50-man-oct-11

  • Moving Leon Draisaitl to RW—it appears this is the plan—means the team has two scoring lines, and not much on the 3 and 4 lines. The top two lines will probably play 60 percent of the game, but an outscoring third line is needed to make progress. Can you see a third line?
  • Two rookies—Drake Caggiula and Jesse Puljujarvi—appear ticketed for the same line. Kid Line’s have a long and successful history, and this is why I have been cranking on a Pisani. Edmonton has two—Nuge and Pouliot—but they are needed up the order.
  • The Oilers sent away Kris Versteeg today, apparently because they could not guarantee him steady work. Versteeg scored 38 points last season—good not great production but a very nice insurance policy for the skill lines. I think the Oilers probably decided Leon is 2R and that was all she wrote for Versteeg. Cannot blame a man for looking out for his own.
  • Oilers draft picks did pretty well this camp—more below—and that is an interesting result of this camp. I expected Pitlick and others to be flushed, seems Chiarelli and McLellan have found some useful players among the AHL men.
  • I do not believe in the backup goaltending, but probably believe in Talbot more than most so there you go. I would not be surprised to see a trade for a better goalie during the year.
  • The signing of Gryba makes the Leftorium count (13-4) less Cy Young and more Urban Shocker but it is impressive just the same. It is not balanced at this time.
  • Gotta say I like that first pairing, plus Sekera and Davidson. Four good defenseman is progress, ladies.
  • Connor McDavid is going to need to score 100 points for this team to have a chance, and you know what? They have a chance.

OPENING NIGHT 23-MAN ROSTER ( I THINK)

oilers-opening-night-projected

  • My RE suggests the Lucic—McDavid—Eberle line should be expected to score 82 goals (REs are listed here). That number includes a substantial power play, something we have yet to see.
  • The RE total for Pouliot—Nuge—Draisaitl line should score 52 goals, and that should be about right. If the top two lines can score 135 goals, surely this team can get past 210 for the year.
  • The RE total for Maroon—Caggiula—Puljujarvi is 35 goals in a full season, and that represents the end of Edmonton’s offense.
  • I love the top pairing. Love the top pairing.
  • 2010 draft pick Tyler Pitlick made it, as did 2013 pick Anton Slepyshev. Edmonton finding some useful players from previous drafts is a big deal.
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hunter1909

VanIsleOil:

This is what makes the Death March™ successful. People sharing their life experiences.

hunter1909

Professor Q:
If Hunter is still accepting guesstimations, how about 88 for the Oilers and 75 for Bakersfield?

My apologies for my tardiness, sir.

P. S. What are the rules?

Just wrote you in The Book.

If you’re interested in The Rules, please ask here:

hunter2909@Safe-mail.net

Thank you for your cooperation

hunter1909

OmJo:
hunter1909,

Hall would shop at the Safeway I work at once in a while, he seemed like a nice guy. Of course I didn’t have any actual conversations with him in the few times I saw him, but he didn’t give off any jerk vibes lol. I don’t think he hated Yakupov per se, I just think Yakupov didn’t fit in. He was the only Russian his age in the group, and plus being a somewhat practicing Muslim he wasn’t going to be going out for beers with the guys. I don’t know if anybody knows how awkward it is to be at a bar with your buddies drinking and you just chilling there lol. Trust me, it’s not fun.

I won’t hide the fact I was a big Yakupov fan, and it was somewhat personal since he was the first Muslim player to go first overall, so I was routing for the kid like hell and still am. The trade left a sour taste in my mouth, but as you pointed out earlier, the Blues seem to have embraced him and trying to get him on the track to develop him properly, something that would have never happened here, even this season. I hate the trade, but at the same time I think it was what’s best for him.

I think whether we like it or not we can’t help to care about this team.I don’t even know why haha, but it’s just hard to move on no matter what stupid things they do, or how badly they play.

PS: Got me curious now, what was your prediction?

He’s going to be just fine playing for St Louis. St louis in so many ways is the USA version of Edmonton it’s friendly and he’s already doing great there so…

I picked 102 points. I’m hopelessly optimistic(looks great after the 1-0 start lol)

Centre of attention

Matthews just scored a hat trick on his first 3 shots. Ridiculous. This kid is going to be good, and I have no problem admitting that as an Oiler fan.

*whispers* Connors still better… 😉

Professor Q

VanIsleOil:

You don’t like wordplay, do you?

Hilmar

khildahl: Google Translate gave me “drop the bit”. I still don’t know what it means.

I’m just going to go with “drop the beat”, because if McDavid’s coming at you one-on-one, the DJ is getting the goal song ready.

He means that it’s better to pretend you lost an edge so you don’t look too stupid.

Giant Squid Overlord

Hunter,

95 pts please and thanks.

donairsauce

Hunter1909,

84 points please!

PrairieOil

Hunter1909,

Yak scores 25 goals, Oilers score 91 points. You can DeathMarch that to the bank, buddy.

judgedrude

Hunter – I think Wayne will come out of retirement to play with CMD after the Heritage Classic. Put me down for 99.

Woodguy

Pescador: It’s an interesting point, which pairing makes this team better off?
Davidson-Nurse or
Russell-Nurse?
Edit: you can only have it one way

As the roster stands I like:

Dreamy 1 – Dreamy 2
Davidson – Sekera
Russell – Fayne

Woodguy

Dr. Taboggan:
Woodguy,

Hey WG (or anyone),

How do you think the EDM D stacks up against the CAL D? Both seem pretty top heavy with question marks in the 4-7 slots

I have CGY better at the top, but EDM a bit deeper.

Gio, Brodie, Hamiltion > Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera, although that’s pretty close and EDM might be better if Larsson is as dreamy as Klef.

Davidson, Fayne, Nurse, Russell, Gryba/Benning > Engellend, Jokipakka, Kulak and Grossman, most of that is due to Davidson imo.

Foege Foegele Torpe

Woodguy: After watching McLellan let Nurse drown while Fayne was in the AHL, I’ll not be as optimistic as you.

It’s an interesting point, which pairing makes this team better off?
Davidson-Nurse or
Russell-Nurse?
Edit: you can only have it one way

Jeremy

Hunter, please put me down for 84 points.

khildahl

Hall of Shame: The old fake drop the insert gambit. Doubt it worked the second time .

Google Translate gave me “drop the bit”. I still don’t know what it means.

I’m just going to go with “drop the beat”, because if McDavid’s coming at you one-on-one, the DJ is getting the goal song ready.

VanIsleOil

Professor Q:
If Hunter is still accepting guesstimations, how about 88 for the Oilers and 75 for Bakersfield?

My apologies for my tardiness, sir.

Hmm…. thought you weren’t interested in Hunters Oiler’s points contest.

Professor Q says:
October 10, 2016 at 5:38 pm

hunter1909,

What’s the point?

N64

Pouzar: The first thing I learned was that if you get into a one-on-one situation against him so just pretend to drop the Insert to not see anything too stupid

The old fake drop the insert gambit. Doubt it worked the second time .

Pouzar

Love me da Swedes.

Larsson on McDavid:

-On the ice, it’s actually among the craziest thing I have seen. The first thing I learned was that if you get into a one-on-one situation against him so just pretend to drop the Insert to not see anything too stupid. His skating and his eye for the game, it is probably only Crosby who is near by in this League.

Full interview here:

http://norran.se/sport/skelleftea-aik/infor-nhl-starten-adam-larsson-om-omtalade-trejden-nya-miljon-och-hyllningen-till-supertalangen-sjukaste-jag-sett-677893#

frjohnk

Christmas morning today.

Lets see what the presents look like tonight.

Brogan Rafferty's Uncle Steve

Woodguy,

Hey WG (or anyone),

How do you think the EDM D stacks up against the CAL D? Both seem pretty top heavy with question marks in the 4-7 slots

Moncton Mounties

Hey Hunter1909, I’m going to beat that puck drop. Put me down for 78 points. I don’t think they’ve done enough to shift the needle significantly.

I will happily eat my words, but I don’t want to be one of those “We wanted to do it better, but it turned out as always” lamenters come April next year. Lowered expectations, less disappointment!

Woodguy

Bling:
Woodguy,

Although I think the Russell signing was weak, I’m not going to get too worked up over it.

McLellan has zero patience for D who give up uncontested controlled zone entries (see Mark Fayne and Griffin Reinhart). Vlasic is one of the best at denying controlled zone entries, and McLellan wasted little time in giving him big-time minutes.

I guess we’ll see how this all shakes out, but my feeling is Russell gets exposed and we see a Sekera-Davidson pairing as early as game 3.

After watching McLellan let Nurse drown while Fayne was in the AHL, I’ll not be as optimistic as you.

Woodguy

JDï™:
Patrick Everson
‏@Covers_Vegas


Patrick Everson Retweeted Patrick Everson

@Buccigross Speaking of Edmonton, @TheMIrage sportsbook manager Jeff Stoneback said lots of $ on Oilers to win Cup. Opened 50/1, now 20/1.

I have my pre-season Oiler goggles on, but that’s insane.

Woodguy

JDï™: Rozival?

Edit: You’re right though, that’s a rag-tag blue line.

CHI has the best top 4 in the NHL.

Keith-Hjarlmasson
Seabrook-Campbell

Seabrook was still 50.1%CF when away from other RHD last year and Campbell was the best Dman on FLA (and it wasn’t close)

That top 4 will cover a multitude of sins, including a no-name bottom 6.

A-Frame

Hunter please put me down for 85 points. Thanks!

Woodguy

Younger Oil:
I’m not mad about Versteeg signing in Calgary. He has every right to.

I wouldn’t be mad if this happened without them offering Versteeg a contract. I think the management could defend that they think internal options are better than Versteeg.

However, I am frustrated with the fact that they offered Versteeg a contract, which acknowledges that they think they need more depth on the RW, and then made other moves based on the assumption that he was going to sign a contract with them.

They traded Yakupov and passed on Parenteau because they thought they had Versteeg locked up to fill in the hole in the lineup. They should have made sure he was going to sign with the team before making thosedecisions.

Alienating Versteeg by playing Drai on the RW, as well as saying the waiver options weren’t any better when Parenteau has essentially produced the same as Versteeg over the past 3 years are also problems. It’s just bad management.

People aren’t JUST angry over the Versteeg debacle. It is just another aspect of a very disappointing past three days.

1. Seemingly putting Caggiula at #3C, when it seems like he’s played less than 20 games at Center over the past three years (from what people have been saying, not 100% sure this is true).

2. Playing Puljujarvi at #3RW, with a rookie Center who is not normally a Center, when Puljujarvi had a relatively poor training camp (he hasn’t looked better than Drai did in his first camp in my opinion). He also has likely played less than 20 games on North American ice.

3. Signing Russell to seemingly play Top 4 Minutes.

4. Keeping Benning to sit in the pressbox, then signing Gryba and subsequently sending him down to BAK to take valuable minutes away from prospects who need them.

5. Discussing how important RHD are, and then seemingly starting the season with less RHD than you had the previous year.

6. Backup goalie issues.

7. Acknowledging that RW depth is weak by attempting to sign him, and not doing the due diligence to find a replacement if the deal wasn’t a sure thing.

Sure, no single one of these is worth getting furious about, but put all of them together and you have a pretty damning list of very questionable management decisions, which really does not inspire confidence, and should be a cause for concern going forward.

That’s a good post

Woodguy

stush18: I don’t understand, why isn’t he top thirty? FJOHNK has the teeets quoted here.

They tracked the games, he comes out too thirty. Ir do you not trust the work?

Others who have tracked the same data don’t have him there.

When a couple of independent sources agree and the one that is not public disagrees I have to go with the public ones.

Not positive of course, but it’s logical.

Professor Q

If Hunter is still accepting guesstimations, how about 88 for the Oilers and 75 for Bakersfield?

My apologies for my tardiness, sir.

P. S. What are the rules?

Dixs35

Hunter please put me down for 94 for ol smytty

Diesel

Hey Hunter, am I in before the cutoff time?

Sign me up for 93 points!

Bling

Woodguy,

Although I think the Russell signing was weak, I’m not going to get too worked up over it.

McLellan has zero patience for D who give up uncontested controlled zone entries (see Mark Fayne and Griffin Reinhart). Vlasic is one of the best at denying controlled zone entries, and McLellan wasted little time in giving him big-time minutes.

I guess we’ll see how this all shakes out, but my feeling is Russell gets exposed and we see a Sekera-Davidson pairing as early as game 3.

JJ

Hunter,

Put me down for 87 points please.

Thank you.

godot10

Yakupov MUST be setting a record.

Krueger for 1 strike shortened season.
Eakins for 1.3 seasons.
MacT for 0.075 seasons.
Nelson for .625 seasons.
McLellan for 1 season.
———————————>present
Hitchcock for 1 season.
Yeo for 1 season.

digger50

OmJo: The team that has constantly finished bottom of the league or the team with one Cinderella playoff run in the last ten years? Let’s not forget, we were the first to take Korpse and kept him for an entire year lol, we’re in no place to laughyet

Nope. Dallas signs Korpikoski……still funny…..lol

JD_Wry

Ice Sage: McD effect? Belief in balance? Law of greater fools?

LoGF wasn’t something I considered, but I’m no stoodent of stakes.

After the McD effect, I turned towards inside money – Colin Campbell, other select execs and friends.

Let’s see how the reffing goes for the first few games.

gwdsfo

hunter1909,

Hunter, thanks for trolling and compiling predictions for this season’s Deathmarch. Mine are NUGE #93points and 77 points for the CONDORs

Foege Foegele Torpe

BONE207,

and there’s old Woodguy running around pissing on all the vitriolic commentary to calm people down.

With whiskey filled kidneys no doubt

Ice Sage

JDï™:
Patrick Everson
‏@Covers_Vegas


Patrick Everson Retweeted Patrick Everson

@Buccigross Speaking of Edmonton, @TheMIrage sportsbook manager Jeff Stoneback said lots of $ on Oilers to win Cup. Opened 50/1, now 20/1.

Now that is really interesting and has my mammaries murmuring.

McD effect? Belief in balance? Law of greater fools?
Or does someone really know something…

Oh, and Hunter, I’m holding fast at 90 – mucho thanks

JD_Wry

BONE207

Bold. Very bold indeed.

BONE207

Calmer tits embiggen us all.

Bigger tits embiggen me for sure. I think it’s going to be a fluid season.
People here are walking around with flame throwers putting fires all over the country side and there’s old Woodguy running around pissing on all the vitriolic commentary to calm people down.
It’s show me time for the team and as a group it’s all hands on deck and pull the rope. Short leashes are the fashion I believe for the team. Who wants to make the playoffs, who wants to play in Bakersfield. Let’s drop the puck already…

Ryan

JDï™: Rozival?

Edit: You’re right though, that’s a rag-tag blue line.

He wasn’t listed on their projected lines from my casual perusal.

Cassandra

Woodguy:
stevezie,

And you, my friend, seem to have forgotten what it is like to cheer for a good one. I’m not sure what exactly you’re defending here.

I’m saying downgrading your 13 and 14th forwards from 7’s to 5’s isn’t a big issue.

Everyone is grandstanding on this and it really doesn’t mean much.

I’m trying to give perspective here.

You are weeping and gnashing teeth over *MAYBE* a 4 goal differential and even that’s up for debate.

And it doesn’t even look like Chia did anything wrong with Versteeg, its just hat CGY offered a better spot.

The level of outrage doesn’t match the actual crime and I’ve been outraged at the idiocy of this franchise for a long time.

Everyone has been so mad for so long that they’ve lost perspective on what to get mad about.

On any other day you would be talking about the importance of depth, but because of the internal politics of this place, have shifted to the other side, that defends Chiarelli no matter what he does and calls it being reasonable. I call it reflexive contrarianism, born out of mistaken inclination to overcorrect. If MacTavish had done this you would have crucified him.

The difference here is far more than four goals, because the difference isn’t simply between Parenteau (say) and Versteeg versus Puljujarvi and Pitlick or Slepyshev or Caggiula, because you don’t lose any of those four guys by signing Parenteau and Versteeg. They go to the minors where they belong so they can get called up when injuries happen.

So you lose 5-10 goals by not having Parenteau and Versteeg, and then you lose more by not having Puljujarvi or Caggiula to call up and instead end up with the next guy on the list.

Sure this isn’t wasting a first round pick on Reinhart bad, but it is bad, and completely unnecessary.

Either depth matters or it doesn’t. The Oilers right now have dreadful 3rd and 4th lines. They didn’t need to.

Ryan

PaperDesigner: The Oilers traded Hall because they didn’t have enough right shot defencemen. They since sign Russel, who is a left shot, and fail to address the right side in any significant way. And now, they’re moving one of the few NHL calibre right shot defenceman for a winger.

Why does ANYONE think this management can get them anywhere?

Mclellan doesn’t seem to think that Fayne can play his system.

I shudder to think of what the return would be on the Fayne contract.

JD_Wry

Patrick Everson
‏@Covers_Vegas

Patrick Everson Retweeted Patrick Everson

@Buccigross Speaking of Edmonton, @TheMIrage sportsbook manager Jeff Stoneback said lots of $ on Oilers to win Cup. Opened 50/1, now 20/1.

Foege Foegele Torpe

Ryan,

Where are the moarbigger dmen?

Lagging behind the Dmen with the rocket skates
& the puck

JD_Wry

Ryan: The fading Seabrook is their only dman on the roster who weighs over 200 lbs.

Rozival?

Edit: You’re right though, that’s a rag-tag blue line.

Ryan

JDï™:
Among teams ‘gifting’ roster spots to rookies, Arizona, Chicago and CBJ with 4, NJ and Winnipeg with 3, and Toronto with 6 (!).

Fucking Chiarelli…

Chicago has an interesting blue line.

They seem to have a penchant for finding late round Swedish dmen drafted by other teams.

Gustav Forsling seems to have made the roster while Erik Gustafsson is on the outside looking in.

The fading Seabrook is their only dman on the roster who weighs over 200 lbs.

Where are the moarbigger dmen?

PaperDesigner

Pouzar:
Don’t forget Fayne will be moved for a vet winger. Stauffer is the reaper.

The Oilers traded Hall because they didn’t have enough right shot defencemen. They since sign Russel, who is a left shot, and fail to address the right side in any significant way. And now, they’re moving one of the few NHL calibre right shot defenceman for a winger.

Why does ANYONE think this management can get them anywhere?

PaperDesigner

I have felt wildly pessimistic about this roster, and mostly the competence of its management since the Taylor Hall trade. It’s been bad enough to the point that I have lost interest in following the team.

However, I haven’t lost interest in the chance to say “I told you so”, which is why I am here to predict a paltry 71 points, if you please, Hunter.

Pouzar

Don’t forget Fayne will be moved for a vet winger. Stauffer is the reaper.