AND WE ARE BACK

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers were going to lose sooner or later, but the Buffalo Sabres were not the team most of us thought would represent the stumble. You will read a lot about ‘it is how they react to this loss’ and there is some truth to that, but in reality the Oilers looked off all night against the Sabres—and if they bring that kind of dull work ethic, then Carolina will set them on their ass, too. Last night, in my opinion, had nothing to do with talent and a lot to do with execution—something Todd McLellan may have been in favor of around midnight. Edmonton faced early push back from Buffalo, went down 0-2, and surged back to tie. When Cam Talbot let in a goal from Laredo (the JC Tremblay play!), the Oilers folded like a cheap suit. Do that 75 more times and Nolan Patrick will be putting on an orange and blue in June.

RICHARD HELL, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 0-3-0, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in October 2016: 2-1-0, goal differential +1
 Well damn, it was a nice start. It was a difficult game to endure for all kinds of reasons—the goalie was not good, the defense was poor in important moments, the forwards did not cash their chances—but it is one game and these things happen. The great baseball manager Casey Stengel said there are 50 games you win no matter what and 50 games you lose no matter what—and what you do in those other 62 that determines who wins the pennant.Taking baseball’s GP totals and applying them to hockey that would be 25-25 in the 50 games (no matter what), and then performances in the final 32 games making all the difference. I think the Oilers had one of their 25 L’s last night. What can we learn from it?

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

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  • This was a tough game to view and then break down, because there were lots of chances and the Oilers won the possession battle 5×5 by a handsome margin.
  • It’s possible to have good numbers and get noticed for negative things—single moments and events can have super importance while being exactly single moments and events. Such was the case last night.
  • Andrej Sekera and Kris Russell were solid again, with and without each other. You want to see this for 20 games, and I believe in the power and the glory of lefty-righty, but hot damn this looks good. Maybe it is Sekera being just that good, but in fairness to Russell he looks good from here.
  • Klefbom had an off game with the puck on his stick in my opinion, but he is in a prominent spot while also lacking a ton of NHL experience. His Corsi for 5×5 percentage is now the worst among regular D on the team (43 percent—Larsson is at 50 percent), but we would do well to remember that he missed a lot of time last season. I still believe in Oscar.
  • Darnell Nurse and Eric Gryba had tough moments, mostly with the puck. For me young Nurse did do a few good things too, and I am a encouraged by him this season. A hat tip and thank you for standing between an apparently angered Josh Gorges and Connor McDavid late in the game (after 97 and McDavid scampered up the middle for 12 yards and an ass-over-tea-kettle goalie).
  • Cam Talbot was not good. I remain convinced he is a suitable No. 1 goalie—not brilliant, but suitable—and that Peter Chiarelli should have aimed higher for the backup. I sincerely hope Jonas Gustavsson is okay.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

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  • Jesse Puljujarvi impresses me (and I have said it) as a guy who does a lot of things we expect from older players, like being on the right side of the puck and winning battles. Poster Sliderule said this about him in the comments section last night: Puljujarvi was noticeable in that he played his position well marking a man and engaging.Only 18 but they are not going to send him down as he is better than options. That is exactly how I see it.
  • Patrick Maroon worked hard, got things done but nothing rhymes—some days are diamond and some days are stone. I like him more than some of you, but he needs to be productive every night—there is a thin line between usefulness and down the road for role players.
  • Zack Kassian was solid to very good. Had three shots, an assist and played up the roster.
  • Leon Draisaitl was high event and I thought he could have had more than one assist with a little luck. Six shots, 70 percent on the dot, he was probably the best center last night.
  • Benoit Pouliot took two penalties in the offensive zone and then saw the bench for the rest of the night. I don’t agree with that call—Pouliot is an effective player even with the penalties—and benching him gave Edmonton less of a chance to win the game. He scored, which is important.
  • Connor McDavid had several good moments, but did not cash and ended the game with one shot on goal. The line shuffling may continue, and I do think eventually we will see one or the other winger move from his line. It might be Lucic, who seems to have chem with Leon. He followed two insane games with a quieter one, and I suspect we see a breathtaking performance on Tuesday. Sabres marked him well.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins picked up an assist, had three shots and was 47 percent on the dot. Also was part of the penalty killing group. People are on him already, but he looked fine early in camp (after returning from World Cup of Hockey) and I thought he was good last night.
  • Tyler Pitlick had a nice game in a support role. Hope he sticks around for the whole season.
  • Milan Lucic was high event, scoring a goal (nice chem with Leon), elbowing people randomly and creating collisions as able. Also shot the puck in the net after a whistle (it was awful, he was late and did it on purpose, God love him) and it seemed to wake up the team. I am biased, but love that he is an Oiler.
  • Jordan Eberle had an assist, two shots and a takeaway—also knocked Kulikov on his tail feathers. He seems a more determined player these days, think Lucic may be having an impact.
  • Mark Letestu did not have a strong night, but these things happen and he is a game rooster. You need guys like these because asking McDavid and Nuge to PK and take own-zone faceoffs is crazy.
  • Anton Lander made an amazingly addled slash and got a penalty, lordy Anton this is not the time, man. He is, I suspect, hanging by a blasted thread, and then takes a dumb penalty.

Yes. Well. McLellan also said no one was ready to play and seemed to blame it on the early start time, but didn’t let anyone off the hook. They were bad, and they have a chance to fix it Tuesday. I do wonder if Pouliot is living on borrowed time, especially with Patrick Maroon at the ready. I think a smart team plucks BP and gets a top flight winger for years to come.

THE HEART OF THE MATTER

  • Todd McLellan: “The preparation. We looked like the Bad News Bears. We had a five o’clock game in the afternoon, we had guys falling all over the place. Our passing was poor. Positionally, from the goaltender on up to the forwards, no one was ready to play.” Source

I have no quarrel with the Oilers moving the practice day from Wednesday to Monday, because I do think it is important to win the Tuesday. The concern for all Oilers fans should be the underlined portion of the quote from Mr. Barnes article (a worthwhile read). I will tell you that the Oilers have stunk the joint out (to my memory) on early Sunday games going back a very long way, and that for me this reaction is a breath of fresh air. React before the season is lost!

You may feel Todd McLellan made a wrong move here, but for me this Oilers team has to turn north. How long have we been discussing it? If this team cannot get through October with a 5-3-1 record (or similar) then at some point in November we are going to begin talking about Nolan Patrick, Peter Chiarelli is going to make some trades and Todd McLellan’s hold on this coaching job is going to erode. If not now, when?

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Scott Burnside, ESPN. Quick starts in St. Louis and Pittsburgh, Flyers’s rookies and McDavid, Matthews and Marchand off to hot starts.
  • Andy McNamara, TSN4Downs. NFL weekend saw the Cowboys continue their rise and the AFC West remains the most interesting division in football.
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. Oilers loss last night gives fans pause, Eskimos cross over and Toronto Blue Jays in a must win game tonight.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. I will also be on the round table with Dusty and Wil (and Matt Iwanyk!) at a little after 9 this morning.

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kinger_OIL

– Great post LT. I am not at bullish on Talbo as you are. I agree we needed better than than the monster. What an opportunity for Brossoit.

– Talbot’s not trending the right way: as his assignment gets higher:

2013 – 21 games – 0.941SV% = awesome back-up on awesome team
2014 – 36 games – 0.926SV% = good Lundquist goes down, but a drop-off
2015 – 56 games – 0.917SV% = meh, team was meh. Rarely “stole games”
2016 – 3 games – I won’t post SV%, but he hasn’t looked primetime in any of 3 games

– I don’t know if he can reverse this trend of being worse as the responsibilty increases, but he’s 29 years old, this is his 4rth year, and he certainly isn’t crushing it

– We need is average goaltending, and this year’s tandemn is not average, nor was last years…

Water Fire

Great work LT. Unfortunately for Talbot the goalie stands alone. The other players get a little shelter from the herd.

It’s make or brake time for Talbot methinks.

Edit: some may use the spelling ‘break’.

misfit

Did they have one of their 25, or did they piss away one of the 32?

Dino

1. I agree with the decision to practice today instead of take the day off. I think it shows accountability and urgency to win NOW, something this organization has lacked for a while. Kudos to coach, captain and the rest of the players for recognizing this.

2. A lot of people feel Mclellan is overreacting too soon in the season and might be losing the room because of it. I beg to differ. I think the goal for this team this year is playoffs and to make it they have to win early and they have to beat the weaker teams like a depleted Buffalo. Coach is mad because that was an important and attainable 2 points they pissed away, the message has to be delivered now while the season is young.

3. I hope Puljujuarvi gets sent down after his 9 games and we see this line:

Pou Mcd Ebs
Luc RNH Drai
Maroon Cag Kassian
Pitlick Letestu Lander

Hall Awaits

If Drake is ready I think Pou sits. Just deserved to. The bonehead crap has to stop.

JJS

It was evident last night the Oil are still searching for chemistry. We don’t spend too much time on the topic around here but the constant player turnover must have a significant effect on comfort, anticipation, battle level etc.

Terrible example alert but I know when I have a steady d-partner in beer league, we start to bond at a higher level and will do more to protect one another, predict subtle plays and so on.

Historically, a veteran team like Chicago and Detroit would shoot out of the gate with ease as the top 6/top 4 were virtually the same year to year. This has shifted for both teams and we are seeing the result.

Hopefully, we can cement a top 6 this year and keep it going for a few.

commonfan29

If we don’t protect any goalies for the expansion draft, maybe the NHL lets us protect another skater?

leadfarmer

Talbots is ok, but there he has never proven to be a 60 games starter and I don’t like the fact thats what they were expecting out of him.

Lucic has good chemistry with Draisatl. Pats myself on the back for calling that. He just doesnt have the wheels to work with McDavid but him and Draisatl are physically a load for the opposition.

Water Fire

Pouliot is never going to stop what he does. He’s too old. He is also an effective player overall, it’s not like any of the vets are blowing the doors off right now, Sekera excepted.

McLellan needs to make sure he isn’t cutting his nose off to spite his face. If anything, if you don’t like the player, tell Peter and make him look good with lots of TOI etc and trade him instead of Oilering him.

Pouliot has enough track to be pumped and dumped.

HugThePost

Across generations and repeated iterations of this team, the same themes still come up. We have replaced management, traded everyone from number one picks to barely prospects, replaced coaches, brought in veteran brand name champions who ‘know what it takes’ and landed the Next One. But we still see the same thing:

1. The team collectively not showing up at regular intervals during the season
2. The goalie letting in any puck that gets directed his way, at the worst possible time
3. penalties
4. losing to crap teams
5. taking 2 steps forward followed by 5 steps back

I remember Todd Marchant quoted when he was here that the Oilers never seem to know how to deal with a little bit of success and how they let some positives go to their heads and think it is all easy after getting a couple of wins and then proceed to go on a 6 game losing streak.

It just seems that with all of the team turnover, the new arena, a supposed new identity and era of Oilers hockey, the same stinky mentality and perhaps a bit of a black cloud still hovers around this team.

I agree with LT, they HAVE to turn it north in a significant way this year. If they can’t at this point where do they go from here?

stevezie

I prefer the team win, but a part of me was glad to see a loss yesterday.

I swear I’m not anti-joy, but the reckless, drunken blue-skying after two uneven games was getting a bit much for me.

To preemptively defend myself from charges of being a less famous version of Derek Zona- my fued with Chiarelli and Katz (they don’t know about it yet) has made me a an Oilers grouch between games, but once the puck drops I find myself unconsciously compelled to cheer for the Oilers and swear at the refs.

Anyway I hope the next loss is closer.

digger50

Agree that “shaking up the lines” often has the opposite effect than intended. Instead of focusing on the game they have to adjust to new linemates, often counter productive.

Talbot not in net. Likely this game is turned around.

Having confidence in a back up goalie makes a difference. The fact the Oilers plan on playing Gustafson very little shows they do not have confidence. Why then did they acquire him??

You cannot win with poor goaltending, period.

russ99

Eberle is completely in tune with Lucic, Eberle is completely in tune with McDavid.

McDavid – Lucic not so much, but that is no reason to throw away our most consistently producing scoring line.

Breaking that line up to get other lines going diminishes our overall offense. The onus should be on those other lines playing more effectively than sinking McDavid to do so.

DRFNsuperstar

Todd must be confused as heck right now, there is an itch he cannot seem to scratch…sooner or later Young Jesse is going to be in on the cycle with Lucic, and Eberle will be back with his buddies Nuge and Pouliot. If Connor isn’t putting up 3 in a game another line has to cash. The Drake is going to have a hell of a time going from pre-season stud to regular season 3C after being out a couple weeks with injury.

Lucic-Mcdavid-Jesse
Pouliot-Nuge-Ebs
Maroon-Drai-Kass
Dogs breakfast

leadfarmer

Pou is taking a lot of penalties. Normally its overblow 28 and 30 penalty minutes in the last two seasons, but he is already up to 12. He needs to not try quite so hard to make something out of nothing.

The game last night was on Talbot. The guys fought hard to get back to 2-2. That center ice goal is the kind of back breaking goaltending that sewered seasons before.

russ99

digger50:
Agree that “shaking up the lines” often has the opposite effect than intended. Instead of focusing on the game they have to adjust to new linemates, often counter productive.

Talbot not in net. Likely this game is turned around.

Having confidence in a back up goalie makes a difference. The fact the Oilers plan on playing Gustafson very little shows they do not have confidence. Why then did they acquire him??

You cannot win with poor goaltending, period.

The expansion draft is a big reason why we’ve made the goaltending moves we have.

Unless Monster misses some significant time, Broissoit will stay in Bakersfield.

Talbot will be OK.

stevezie

stevezie,

Bad games happen. Nothing from yesterday is cause for panic.

I mean, not cause for any more panic.

HugThePost

stevezie:
stevezie,

Bad games happen. Nothing from yesterday is cause for panic.

I mean, not cause for any more panic.

After 10 years of not just losing, but crushing-type losing and on a grander scale a quarter century of being amongst the NHL’s weaklings (with the exception of one miracle spring), who can blame any fan of this team for being always on edge about what the next team disaster is?

SoCaloil

If you take 5 o-zone penalties in 2 games you deserved to be benched. End of story…
Especially at the beginning of the season.

Cassandra

stevezie:
I prefer the team win, but a part of me was glad to see a loss yesterday.

I swear I’m not anti-joy, but the reckless, drunken blue-skying after two uneven games was getting a bit much for me.

To preemptively defend myself from charges of being a less famous version of Derek Zona- my fued with Chiarelli and Katz (they don’t know about it yet) has made me a an Oilers grouch between games, but once the puck drops I find myself unconsciously compelled to cheer for the Oilers and swear at the refs.

Anyway I hope the next loss is closer.

Agree completely. While watching I want them to win. But I’m glad when they lose too, because they deserve it. The worst thing that could happen is for this team to succeed in spite of the horrific offseasons of the past two years.

As to the article, it is interesting to watch the transformation of lowetide. In terms of life lessons, and reading the tea leaves, he remains as wise as ever. I, for one, could use some of his moderation. And yet, his judgement of the Oilers has lost its moderation, he’s gone all-in on the Chiarelli/McClellan kool-aid.

How can you lament the forthcoming shipping away of Pouliot in one breath, and then applaud McClellan for throwing him under the bus with the other?

Puljujarvi has no business playing in the NHL. Versteeg or Parenteau or both should be in his spot. They are better players now and he will be a better player later by thriving in the AHL rather than trying to keep his head above water in the NHL. Keeping him in the NHL is the kind of lose-lose move that is becoming Chiarelli’s trademark.

It is really hard to know what to hope for. If the team fails, then there is a chance that Chiarelli and McClellan (I’m going full Godot on this one) are shown the door. More likely, though, the blame falls on someone like Eberle who is traded for a bag of pucks to free up cap space that Chiarelli can then waste.

If the team makes the playoffs, Chiarelli gains the gravitas to continue to waste the McDavid years. But at least then there is a chance that Eberle stays.

So whatever happens this year, remember the counterfactual is not more of the same. Rather imagine a team that didn’t trade for Reinhart, didn’t trade Hall, didn’t sign Lucic, and instead trading Nurse for a RHD as good as Larsson (very possible), signed Demers (definitely possible), and filled out the roster with cheap veterans instead of Puljujarvi and Pitlikick and Slephyshev, etc. That team is one of the best teams in the NHL.

Water Fire

Good teams spread talent. The cap means you can’t have a top 9 that gets paid. Or 6 defense. If you want three productive lines, you have to use pairs and a complimentary player up front. Often the D pairs have a good player and emerging player, but that young player has to be legit.

Yeti

stevezie,

It does raise the question of whether the wins against Calgary tell us more about that team’s weaknesses than our own strengths.

dustrock

leadfarmer:
Pou is taking a lot of penalties.Normally its overblow 28 and 30 penalty minutes in the last two seasons, but he is already up to 12.He needs to not try quite so hard to make something out of nothing.

The game last night was on Talbot.The guys fought hard to get back to 2-2.That center ice goal is the kind of back breaking goaltending that sewered seasons before.

LT, I know you’re a Pouliot fan, and I like him a lot too, but yes, 12 PIMs in 3 games. And as always, offensive zone penalties. It has to stop. He can’t take 2 penalties per game.

Other than maybe one game in the preseason (I know, it’s preseason), I don’t think Talbot has looked razor sharp at all. The 2nd Calgary game was a bit crazy after the first period, and he shut the door there, but there was a time last season where he did look like a #1, and would shrug off the occasional bad goal.

The scouting report from a few NYR fans when we traded for him was that he would let in a few softies, but he would also make saves that he had no business making. It’s that 2nd part that is missing right now.

dustrock

With respect to McLellan, I was debating on twitter last night with Cameron Thomson about T-Mac’s comments. Cam isn’t a huge McLellan fan, and thinks he’s never had to work with a team with this many holes.

I did agree with him he seems visibly frustrated and saying things like “idiocy” in the Game 3 postgame is somewhat alarming.

I don’t think he’s lost the room at all – given his resume, the success at the World Championships, and at the World Cup with the Young Guns, he should be accorded the respect of the room.

But I get the sense he is getting frustrated with the breakdowns and errors in execution and I wonder if he’s struggling as well.

New Improved Darkness

There’s a piece in Bloomberg this morning about how Wall Street regards the worst outcome as a “wave”, where all three of Madison’s blind mice somehow wind up the same colour. Wall St does not want to see three grapefruits or three prunes come up on the November slot machine. It leads to an electoral mandate (gasp!) and random acts of progressive leadership.

The media, however, persists in interpreting polls as “support” for prune or grapefruit. We had that problem around here for a long time until Bettman rigged the draft to prevent what happened last night: league-marquee talent mired in an eternal same old, same old. (When the mob fixes an outcome, it stays fixed. Rigging, however, is subject to the best laid plans of mice and men a great deal more than some would have us believe.)

It’s hard to judge management when the preference order looks like this:

great balls of fire
stellar success
ordinary success
Milquetoast success framed as a building block moving forward (five whole “clearly a lot more work to do” playoff games)
great balls of tire
cataclysmic failure
merely abject failure
ordinary failure
piddling failure (welcome to draft position #17)

That’s what Wall Street wants for government. Draft position #17 & a prevailing ethos of gridlock constipation. However, even Wall Street drops a stitch from time to time.

The team, led by Chief U.S. Equity Strategist David Kostin … adds that the most recent example of a meaningful impact from this would be the Democratic sweep in 2008, which led to the passage of the Affordable Care Act.

This looks pretty dire on the surface of things, but Tommy Douglas need not fear that the incorrigible southerners are scooping his legacy: the word “affordable” in the name of this act serves as a dead giveaway.

Here’s to hoping Connor won’t settle, like Wall Street, for merely rigging the ship upright. But still, there are decent limits.

up and under

In January 1905 Salt’s journal, The Humanitarian, published an eye-witness account of a Royal Navy birching ‘gone wrong’. When one bircher failed to incite his victim to screams, he became overzealous, aimed ‘up and under’, and landed his birch on a particularly delicate part of the anatomy:

“Towards the completion of the number of strokes, the corporal [carrying out the birching] began to be anxious for his reputation, so he resorted to the unfair and terrible ‘upward’ stroke, but his aim was not true. The poor fellow gave a yell which I shall never forget and fainted at once… Until he had been surgically examined there was no anxiety, but when it was known that no permanent injury had been inflicted, the matter became one for jest among those sufficiently lost to all sense of decency.”

What? That’s the strangest use of the words “anxious” and “anxiety” I’ve ever seen. It must have been—for some—a slang term of black humour for tough on crime money shot.

Bircherism. When the mob fixes something, it stays fixed.

dustrock

I’ve been sounding the alarm about Talbot’s wife being due in October for about 4 months now.

This is exactly what I feared would happen.

I doubt she’s sleeping well, and I doubt he’s sleeping well.

I don’t blame him for not being focused on hockey, because family is far more important, but I’m wondering if maybe he should take a couple of weeks off. Seriously.

This is where having Gustavsson and LB as the answers makes it difficult.

rickithebear

Period 1: 10 HSC corsi
Talbot 6 HSC shots 2 G
2 HSC misses

period 2: 6 HSC corsi
Talbot 2 HSC SH 1G;
One open hole,shot from distance. 1G
2 HSC misses
Gustavsson 1 HSC SH

Period 3: 12 HSC corsi
Talbot 6 HSC shots 3G;
3 HSC misses

21HSC SH of 24 SHots 87.5%

28 HSC corsi

This is a terrible HSC game.

10.5 is average.

21 is ?

HugThePost

dustrock:
I’ve been sounding the alarm about Talbot’s wife being due in October for about 4 months now.

This is exactly what I feared would happen.

I doubt she’s sleeping well, and I doubt he’s sleeping well.

I don’t blame him for not being focused on hockey, because family is far more important, but I’m wondering if maybe he should take a couple of weeks off. Seriously.

This is where having Gustavsson and LB as the answers makes it difficult.

Should the Oilers provide nanny services for their players who have new additions to their families? I am not kidding—if it will help a guy focus and perform better on his job, it would be a worthwhile investment for Katz.

We are dead in the water if Talbot cannot play up to par. We need him to be league average at the very least or else our long walk through the hinterland of the NHL goes on.

B S

dustrock,

This is where a road trip would come in handy. I also hope Talbot had the foresight to hire a nanny.

B S

HugThePost,

The players should be hiring their own nannies, lord knows they’re payed enough to afford it. Oilers admin can help find them for the players, but I seriously don’t know why the team should be on the hook for a player’s life decision.

jake70

1:46, 1:22, 2:37 – these are the first period minute marks in each of the first 3 games when the Oilers were scored upon. One game they did score first however, only to give it right back.

Pouliot has always worn out his welcome with fans due to o-zone penalties. Happened in Boston and NYR. That’s partly why until Edmonton he could not get a long-term deal. I think he irritates his coaches, too. He will have a great forecheck then get frustrated and clutch, hook, etc. He has not learned to eliminate that from his game except his first year in Edmonton I said he played his best-ever stretch of hockey. And he still took a memorably bad o-zone penalty that cost the team a game.

I did warn y’all before he signed here what the team would be getting. Hey, if he actually stayed healthy to put up 50 points instead of just a 50 point pace over 60 games, did not take as many penalties, etc., he never would have been available to come sign and play here. Edmonton has him because of his warts, not in spite of them.

Rangers fans were tired of his schtick and it seems Oiler fans are tiring of it, too.

rickithebear

Talbot had a .768 HSC save% in buffalo game.
that is in the range
Montoya; Rinne averaged for last 3 years.

Water Fire

dustrock:
I’ve been sounding the alarm about Talbot’s wife being due in October for about 4 months now.

This is exactly what I feared would happen.

I doubt she’s sleeping well, and I doubt he’s sleeping well.

I don’t blame him for not being focused on hockey, because family is far more important, but I’m wondering if maybe he should take a couple of weeks off. Seriously.

This is where having Gustavsson and LB as the answers makes it difficult.

Turn North. No more excuses. How many here have thrown their careers away because they had a baby, or two?

I don’t buy it.

Edit: I should say that you’re likely right, but I don’t buy it from Talbot. I am sure his hockey wife doesn’t want to see him fail. He was not good in the Calgary games either.

Bag of Pucks

HugThePost: Should the Oilers provide nanny services for their players who have new additions to their families?I am not kidding—if it will help a guy focus and perform better on his job, it would be a worthwhile investment for Katz.

We are dead in the water if Talbot cannot play up to par.We need him to be league average at the very least or else our long walk through the hinterland of the NHL goes on.

Is it too much to expect someone earning $4 million + a season or $66k a game to hire their own homecare assistance to ensure they can do their job properly?

Man, the amount of excuses we make for people nowadays.

GMB3

LT, I do not and I don’t think I will ever understand your love affair with BP. He’s not a top flight winger in this league. Has he ever really stuck with a team in the NHL? There are reasons he hasn’t.

The guy has the skillset you would associate with a former 4th overall pick, but his overall inconsistent effort is incredibly frustrating. I’m not talking about the stupid selfish penalties either. As you said, the super importance of single moments and events can have a huge impact on the game, and Poo’s inability to get the puck deep, win important puck battles, and his tendency to wait for the puck to get to him or wait for the play to develop instead of going it and doing it himself hurts the team at important junctions during games.

I thought Jordan Eberle looked better than I’ve seen him play in over a year. It was refreshing. Kassian has upped the ante as well, the guy is a work horse and will only get better IMO.

Talbot will rebound. We will have a better idea of how far north this team has turned after their game with Carolina. Big “show me” game IMO.

norm_klassen

talbot for whatever reason starts of slow! Lowetide mentioned the need for a good back up and ya its showing now! i hope brocan grow into the back up role. The monster getting injured second shift in was soo oilers!
talbot will correct himself i hope in time because scoring cines in goes we need to win a 2-1 game as much as the 5-3 ones

admiralmark

1) The Sky is Falling!
2) Canucks are gonna win the Stanley Cup!
3) Talbot is the 2nd coming of Racicot!
4) Trumps gonna win!
5) I love being wrong!

GMB3

Also Milan Lucic, I love the guy. These intangibles you hear so many NHL executives and coaches talk about that so many people in the fancy stat community scoff at? He brings them. The teams response after that late shot on goal was perfect. Moar plz

Jethro Tull

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

That doesn’t jive. He played for Boston: Lucic and Marchand. And for the Rags and the douches they’ve had playing for them like Callahan and Dubinsky. He’s just been a spare part for most of his career, never being quite good enough to keep but good enough to trade.

GMB3

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

Well said. The guy has the ability to be an impact playsr yet I feel his impact is often negative

Water Fire

I was concerned in the Calgary games how poorly Tabot dealt with pucks he was rebounding in front of him.

They weren’t going that far out which is good, but at least two of the goals came from those. There should be nothing to shoot at 3 feet in front of the goalie, but they found the net.

If you can’t stop or recover pucks in the crease things will not go well.

Chicago, Detroit and Pittsburgh have won multiple Cups with wobbly goaltending from their starters, so not all is lost. But it is disappointing, and Talbot needs to get it together before he sewers the team’s season, unless Chia has a miracle up his sleeve.

GMB3

Jethro Tull:
NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”,

That doesn’t jive. He played for Boston: Lucic and Marchand. And for the Rags and the douches they’ve had playing for them like Callahan and Dubinsky. He’s just been a spare part for most of his career, never being quite good enough to keep but good enough to trade.

Lucic and Marchand bring a lot more to the table than stupid O zone penalties. Lucic being a douche seems to help ignite a fire within his own team, Marchand is a nuisance for the opposing team. Poo is a nuisance for his old team

stush18

Gotta love oilers fans.

2-0, book the parade, mcdavid is our saviour.

2-1, typical oilers, defends and goalteanding sucks, where does mr. Patrick fit into next years lineup?

Jethro Tull

admiralmark:
1) The Sky is Falling!
2) Canucks are gonna win the Stanley Cup!
3) Talbot is the 2nd coming of Racicot!
4) Trumps gonna win!
5) I love being wrong!

Next year’s RE: James Bond film titles.

Today’s? Skyfall.

Potentials?

Thunderball
Dr. No
Etc.

Jethro Tull

GMB3: Lucic and Marchand bring a lot more to the table than stupid O zone penalties. Lucic being a douche seems to help ignite a fire within his own team, Marchand is a nuisance for the opposing team. Poo is a nuisance for his old team

Now there is a narrative if ever there was one.

Oddspell

stush18,

Excuse me, I’ll have you know I thought the sky was falling even when we were at 2-0.

Confused

We do not seem to have much physical element in our play.
Did not see many finishing checks last night.
Game 3 and we already have people throwing punches at Conner!

Also this “start every game poorly”, is the same as last year.
Why can’t they get geared up to start then the puck drops.
Losing the first goal is often devastating.

These are both fixable, its really about attitude and commitment not skill,

godot10

misfit:
Did they have one of their 25, or did they piss away one of the 32?

A bunch of the players including the captain and the goaltender went to the extremely loud Kanye West concert the night before an early Sunday game.

Answer: They pissed away one of the 32.

dustrock

godot10: A bunch of the players including the captain and the goaltender went to the extremely loud Kanye West concert the night before an early Sunday game.

Answer:They pissed away one of the 32.

Did they really go to the concert? Ha ha, so much for my pregnant wife theory.

Although I understand we’re playing the Canes tomorrow, and Talbot’s wife is scheduled for a C-Section on Wednesday.

Do you start him?