OILERS NO. 8 PROSPECT (winter 2016) ANTON SLEPYSHEV

by Lowetide

The good news is that the Edmonton Oilers finally drafted a Russian winger an NHL coach trusts. The bad news? It isn’t Nail Yakupov. Chosen in the third round of the 2013 NHL Entry Draft, and part of that crazy MacT trade, Anton Slepyshev appears to be that rare item: Not only a Russian the Oilers like, but a man who performs better in the NHL than the AHL.

PREVIOUSLY NO. 8 ON THE WINTER LIST

  • December 2006: L Alexei Mikhnov (2)
  • December 2007: L Slava Trukhno (0)
  • December 2008: C Chris VandeVelde (216)
  • December 2009: D Taylor Chorney (125)
  • December 2010: L Linus Omark (79)
  • December 2011: L Curtis Hamilton (1)
  • December 2012: D David Musil (4)
  • December 2013: D Dillon Simpson (0)
  • December 2014: D Dillon Simpson (0)
  • December 2015: D Brandon Davidson (64)

This is not a strong list, but we are at No. 8 and the list here contains failed first rounders, second rounders who couldn’t find a path, and three players who ground their skills into something useful after a long pro journey. Anton Slepyshev is 22, how old will he be on the night he plays game No. 216? Chris VandeVelde was 29 years, eight months. Brandon Davidson might be the best player on this list—he would be my choice—but health is an increasing issue for him.

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WHAT THEY SAID ON DRAFT DAY

  • Corey Pronman: Slepyshev was passed over in last year’s draft, mostly due to signability concerns. Despite being ranked 17th in last year’s Hockey Prospectus draft rankings, he falls to 45th this season, simply due to the depth of the draft class. He is an above-average skater, with agility and free movement, as his shiftiness makes him hard to check. He has a plus shot and he knows it, as his mentality is often shoot-first, even from distance. He can still make plays, and he does not have tunnel vision, but his playmaking skills are not his best element. His physical game has progressed, and he has added strength since last season. He can protect pucks moderately well. He will display physical effort, although it could be better at times. He also needs to work on his defensive game.
  • ISS Scouting Report: “Perhaps the best player that was most shockingly left off the draft board last year, Slepyshev came back strong this year. A talented two-way player with good spirit, Slepyshev has great hands and can really make things happen from the perimeter with the puck. He shows good work ethic, can play physical and also can be a real pest to play against. He shows good power elements in his game and can protect the puck well and isn’t afraid to go into the dirty areas of the ice. Saw good minutes for Russia at this year’s WJC and should be in line to be one of their top weapons for next year’s event.”

PREVIOUS TOP 20 RANKING

  • Summer 2013: 7
  • Winter 2013: 17
  • Summer 2014: 18
  • Winter 2014: 17
  • Summer 2015: 9
  • Winter 2015: 4
  • Summer 2016: 15
  • Winter 2016: 8

Slepyshev moved up the rankings until reaching the AHL—and that is a league many third-round selections stumble on. We can factor in adjustment time to North America, and—as mentioned by Simon Boisvert on a recent Lowdown—lack of skilled teammates at the AHL level. Both of these issues could have derailed him and sent Slepyshev back to Russia. These entry-level contracts to Russian kids with attractive options back home are damn dangerous—witness Bogdan Yakimov—but credit to Slepyshev this seems to be his dream and he appears to be putting in the work.

SLEPYSHEV IN THE KHL

  • 2011-12 (age 17) 39GP, 4-3-7 (8:55 TOI, 28 shots) (1.21 points-per-60) (4.83 shots-per-60)
  • 2012-13 (age 18) 26GP, 7-2-9 (12:40 TOI, 63 shots) (1.64 points-per-60) (11.48 shots-per-60)
  • 2013-14 (age 19) 36GP, 3-5-8 (10:18 TOI, 59 shots) (1.30 points-per-60) (9.55 shots-per–60)
  • 2014-15 (age 20) 58GP, 15-10-25 (12:26 TOI, 129 shots) (2.08 points-per-60) (10.73 shots-per-60)

I tracked Slepyshev in the KHL and noticed (from year two) he seemed to shoot a lot. If you compare his KHL numbers to the 2015-16 AHL season and use estimates for the numbers unavailable, we get this:

  • 2015-16 (age 21) 49GP, 13-8-21 (13:26 estimated TOI, 113 shots) (1.91 points-per-60)  (10.3 shots per 60)

I honestly felt he would post better numbers but the AHL is a fine league, but the adjustment period and the lack of top end skill in the AHL (the Boisvert point) had us here at the end of the 2015-16 season.

  • Todd McLellan: “Yes. When I look at his game, and I watched the video again—the video doesn’t lie. He did a lot of the things we worked on today in the game. He’s a young player but he’s played pro hockey before. You can see it, he’s been around pro players for awhile.”
  • Todd McLellan: “He has the ability to play a heavy game and use his shot. He’s played with speed guys and with grinders … he’s getting better night after night and he’s really opening the coaches’ eyes.” Source

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2016-17

  • Slepyshev on what he needs to do in order to get back to the NHL: “When the Oilers management sent me down to the AHL to play in Bakersfield they clearly let me know what I did well and what I needed to work on. I took what I needed to work on and have been developing those skills in the AHL. In my time in the AHL, I have learned to think faster on the ice and make quicker decisions. I also learned how to play stronger and win battles against the boards. I now understand what a smart decision in this kind of hockey is and I understand what an unwise decision is. I am trying to find the keys to success in this league. I have been working on things that will translate into points. Points are what I really lack.”
  • Condors Coach Gerry Fleming: “He’s got good skill assets. He just has to bring it on a consistent basis. There’s times when he was caught just standing around but I think that was just getting used to the league and the way the North American game is compared to the KHL where a lot of guys showcase their talents individually. Here it’s a smaller area to work with so you’ve got to use your teammates and you’ve got to always come to the puck and play on the inside. It just took him a little while to understand but he’s starting to grasp the concept and as a result his play has been better.” Source
  • Todd McLellan: ‘He’s an NHL prospect and looks more confident because he understands our game and the language now. I expect him to push really hard this year. I thought he did a lot of good things on the ice today — by himself, rushes, one-on-one play. That will evolve into good team play.’ Source

SLEPYSHEV THE OILER

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Slepyshev has found some real chem with Leon Draisaitl (2-1-3 51.5 Corsi for 5×5 percentage in 52 minutes with the German) and even more important a coach who is giving him a full chance. This is a very small sample, but encouraging just the same. The Pronman and Ferraro verbal above has always impressed me, even during post-draft seasons when the offense was not strong.

THE FUTURE

In the fall of 2015, the Edmonton Oilers, of sound mind and body, chose to keep Anton Slepyshev over Leon Draisaitl. At the time, I thought it was about cap (it may have been, Edmonton kept Griffin Reinhart too), but it is clear that Peter Chiarelli and Todd McLellan like the Russian winger. The question that needs to be answered is this: Can Slepsyhev find a consistent role on the NHL Oilers, and how much offense will he bring?

This is important stuff, finding useful wingers from previous drafts who can play the game, provide offense and be considered value contracts. Slepyshev can solve some real issues for the Oilers if he comes through as an actual NHL player. We have been in this place with any number of promising young players going back to the turn of the century—Marc Pouliot is an example—but Edmonton has been very poor in successfully developing players via the AHL.

THE 2013 DRAFT

  • Darnell Nurse, No. 7 overall. His rookie NHL season was inconsistent, but he appears to be growing into the role this season. Graduated.
  • Marco Roy, No. 59 overall. Didn’t earn an NHL deal, played on an AHL contract and has since moved on to the Canucks organization (another AHL deal). No longer in organization.
  • Bogdan Yakimov, No. 83 overall. Mammoth Russian back in KHL, but he remains a player of interest for Edmonton. A candidate for the Winter Top 20.
  • Anton Slepyshev, No. 88 overall. Slick Russian winger impressed in camp and won an NHL job—again! The coach likes him, but we don’t know about the offense. No. 8 prospect, Winter 2016.
  • Jackson Houck, No. 94 overall. Playing with Colorado Eagles in the ECHL. No longer in the organization.
  • Kyle Platzer, No. 96 overall. Second year pro playing some in Bakersfield. A candidate for the Winter top 20.
  • Aidan Muir, No. 113 overall. College winger having a good year, recently suffered a wrist injury. A candidate for the Winter top 20.
  • Evan Campbell, No. 128 overall. College winger with decent results so far this year. A candidate for the Winter top 20.
  • Ben Betker, No. 158 overall. Big defensive defender with good speed is now a full time AHL player. A candidate for the Winter top 20.
  • Greg Chase, No. 188 overall. In his second AHL season, he is playing more, shooting more, but has not yet had offensive success. A candidate for the Winter top 20.

ROLLING TOP 20

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  • Slepyshev’s ranking reflects both his potential and the concerns about offense. If he can deliver consistent offense (15 goals a season), Edmonton will have terrific value from the 2013 pick.
  • His combination of size and speed are clearly attractive to management and coaching staff. Slepyshev’s career path took a spike the moment new management took over. He is lucky to have arrived during this period, as opposed to 2009 or 2010.
  • It appears unlikely we will see him on the summer list based on his showing so far, and that might be the most surprising item in the Top 20 since the season began.
  • He is a shooter—9.59 shots per 60 at even strength this season.
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russ99

SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
Centre of attention,

Is there any indication whatsoever that TMac and Chia are entertaining the thought of trading Nuge this season because all of the evidence points to the contrary “so far”

Anyone not in the McDavid cluster will be expendable moving forward.

That said, it’s obvious McLellan can see how RNH is playing a good, solid, tough game against the opposition’s best.

I hope the Oilers stick with the Pouliot – RNH – Eberle line since eventually it will click and the goals will come. Plus Eberle is a notorious streaky shooter, so his eventual hot streak could be as intense as his current cold streak.

hags9k

stevezie: I think the Hall trade was “worse”, but find the Reinhart deal less defensible.

I may be alone in being the most irked by Chia’s refusal to address the rw depth. There were so many free solutions! Free! Hell, you already had one flawed but still better than nothing guy! It was like he went out of his way to make sure there was a problem!

Of the three moves, it is by far the least damaging, but also the most confounding.

But then how do you rush 18 year old JP into a top 6 spot if you bring in established vet RWs? 😉

I think we would have been ok if we had been able to hold on to either of Versteeg or Yak.

Yeti

Professor Q: I don’t mind the logo or colour scheme, either. Leaving out the Las is strange though.

I really think they missed a trick with the Las Vegas Escorts.

Yeti

kinger_OIL: – It’s a great question actually: so many variables go into scoring a goal…

You missed the key one: was he wearing his lucky underwear?

russ99

Do we really think we’re going to find that mythic RH point shot, puck moving, stout in his own end defenseman for a $3.1M cap hit?

If this is truly the plan, someone else needs to go besides Russell for us to afford it, this isn’t a one-to-one move. If Russell is amenable to a return, I’d rather have him as the #6/7 veteran D than Fayne or Gryba.

And before you answer, remember Sekera has a full NMC.

vishcosity

So yesterday I may have reconfigured my perspectives on how to approach this entire stats hockey no-chip data problem.

Speculation why no one responded to my query:

1. No one sees where I’m going with this. Schrodenger’s wave equation is the short answer, and it’s going to require some 3D calc to develop a shot quality distribution. I can probably figure out the math but I don’t yet have the skills to do spreadsheet data extractions from NHL sites.

2. Posters are still pissed off at me for being too anti-war and not sufficiently pro-state. Now that the voters in the US have dumped the queen instigator, imo the risk of nuclear exchange is significantly lower and I don’t feel the need to burden this blog with any further news on the subject. Sorry to those who really wanted to stay blind to western aggression, I do think the spell is largely broken and the risk is mitigated. So I’m done on that for now.

Finally, I’ve figured out the /sarc button and promise to use properly, starting now. (The anti gov stuff never was sarcasm, the anti-social science stuff was. I do love librarians and their educational backgrounds. Honest)

On a personal note, the lady and I just had our fifth anniversary of touring the country in a van doing architectural photography. We get no gov money and still have no trust fund. Running a real business is pretty tough, I have no idea how other people do it so effectively. I love hanging out with architects. Somehow the requirement to be capable in both art and science attracts some incredible and rare birds. I’m kind of a hack at both, but enough of each to get us in the door. If this foreign bond bloodbath does pop the VIX, I’ll hold these last couple years as my time in the big leagues. Thanks LT for being the oasis to a kid from Alberta thrown into a big ocean.

Dixs35

so after looking for the original link for bobs burger comments for 3 hours because the article that’s up now doesn’t have a comment section I came to find out that they have deleted the ability to leave comments on that article. Beyond disappointed. That was up there with the olli jokinen and girl scared of the turkey.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Centre of attention,

Is there any indication whatsoever that TMac and Chia are entertaining the thought of trading Nuge this season because all of the evidence points to the contrary “so far”

kinger_OIL

vishcosity:
I wonder if there is a different way to approach the stat issues.

Focusing on one single event, say sleppy’s goal last night, we can know all the following:

x,y location
Time of goal
Oilers on ice
Hawks on ice
Game score

Is there more information available? I’m honestly not sure.

We also can know some things about the event prior.

Was it a shot on net?
Was there a line change?

Without actually watching the games, what else can be known about that event?

1) was it off a rush?
2) was it off a rebound?
3) was it a result of a good play by the forwards?
4) was it a result of a bad play by the other team?
5) what was the quality of the shot?
6) what % of similar shots should the goalie have saved/let in?
7) how many passes prior?
8) was it a fluke?
9) was the other team in position
10) if they were in position, what resulted in the score
11) if they were out of position, was that because of our play, or their poor play?
12) how long did we have possession of puck prior to goal?
13) what % of similar shots should the scorer score on?
14) what % of impairment was created to the view of the goalie
15) where were the rest of our team players positioned at time of goal

– It’s a great question actually: so many variables go into scoring a goal…

frjohnk

haters:
“I know if I play good and I know if I play bad,” said Russell, who has no idea what the advanced stats say about him, and frankly doesn’t care. “And if I play bad the coaches are going to tell me how to be better. I worry more about that than what people behind a computer are saying.” Kris Russell

Also

Did you hear CMD talk about Russell ?
I’m sorry but the eyes just don’t lie with this one. This is a very good defenseman. Reminds me of Jason Smith a bit. Playing Defense is an art and he just knows what to do. Very solid decisions in his own end. Rarely gets into trouble. Numbers don’t lie. Yes you can point to his Corsi but I’ll point to the win loss record with him in the lineup as opposed to out.

I would offer him a reasonable contract of say 4y x 4m. I just like his honest Albertan nature. You can tell he’s very humble and honest. It resonates with teammates and anyone that picks up on character traits well.

I like him way more than Fayne, Gryba, Benning and a few others so far this year.

Almost have to thank the analytics community for souring gm’s on him this summer. Good job nerds !! ?
Got us an actual defenseman that can play, ya know….defense !! ?
I hope this wasn’t offensive to anyone. It’s just my two cents :/

Not offensive at all.

I like Russell. An actual NHL Dman. Cost was nothing but money. Very good add.

If it was just his corsi that was not good I would agree with you.
But when he is on the ice, his fenwick is not good.
Scoring chances? Negative
Medium danger scoring chances? Negative
High danger scoring chances? Negative

Ice is tilted towards the Oilers end when he is on the ice.

Now a part of this is that he has been on a pairing in which both are lefties.

And he has probably played a bit too high up in the batting order.

But he has also given the Oilers some breathing room in allowing Nurse to be in the 3rd pairing.

Id sign him to another contract for next year ( especially if we lose Davidson to expansion) but to be paid and play as a 3rd pairing Dman.

Extend Russell

“I know if I play good and I know if I play bad,” said Russell, who has no idea what the advanced stats say about him, and frankly doesn’t care. “And if I play bad the coaches are going to tell me how to be better. I worry more about that than what people behind a computer are saying.” Kris Russell

Also

Did you hear CMD talk about Russell ?
I’m sorry but the eyes just don’t lie with this one. This is a very good defenseman. Reminds me of Jason Smith a bit. Playing Defense is an art and he just knows what to do. Very solid decisions in his own end. Rarely gets into trouble. Numbers don’t lie. Yes you can point to his Corsi but I’ll point to the win loss record with him in the lineup as opposed to out.

I would offer him a reasonable contract of say 4y x 4m. I just like his honest Albertan nature. You can tell he’s very humble and honest. It resonates with teammates and anyone that picks up on character traits well.

I like him way more than Fayne, Gryba, Benning and a few others so far this year.

Almost have to thank the analytics community for souring gm’s on him this summer. Good job nerds !! 🙂
Got us an actual defenseman that can play, ya know….defense !! 🙂
I hope this wasn’t offensive to anyone. It’s just my two cents :/

Material Elvis

JDï™: comment image

Wow, that’s borderline copyright infringement. I love how Bill Foley was trying to be so coy about the name these past few months, like he had a big surprise that he was going to drop on the fans. Nope! Predictable name, boring colour scheme, logo stolen from Call of Duty.

YKOil

stevezie: I think the Hall trade was “worse”, but find the Reinhart deal less defensible.

I may be alone in being the most irked by Chia’s refusal to address the rw depth. There were so many free solutions! Free! Hell, you already had one flawed but still better than nothing guy! It was like he went out of his way to make sure there was a problem!

Of the three moves, it is by far the least damaging, but also the most confounding.

Agreed on all of it. So, you are not alone. Kassian/Gryba wasn’t near enough a ‘fix’ for the right side of this team.

That said, PC is miles ahead of prior GM’s when it comes to the smaller moves. Maroon, Kassian, Gryba, Caggiula (signing), Benning (signing) – all grade A or B+ moves.

Makes moves like Reinhart and Korpikoski (twice – the trade for and then the buy-out of) all the more puzzling. Barzal would have been a huge add for this team, and a pretty decent trade chip if cashed on another RHD. Would rather have kept Korpikoski, sent him to the minors and then taken a hit on half his salary in trade – that $1 million next year could hurt.

JD_Wry

pocession charge: their logo

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JD_Wry

godot10: Vegas Velvet Elves

I liked “Murder Inc”. Guess they’re going in a different direction.

stevezie

godot10,

Oh I was just joshing ya. Flattered we agree.

stevezie

Ryan: It’s funny that of the Reinhart and Hall trades, I’m probably alone here in being more irked by the Reinhart trade.

I think the Hall trade was “worse”, but find the Reinhart deal less defensible.

I may be alone in being the most irked by Chia’s refusal to address the rw depth. There were so many free solutions! Free! Hell, you already had one flawed but still better than nothing guy! It was like he went out of his way to make sure there was a problem!

Of the three moves, it is by far the least damaging, but also the most confounding.

Material Elvis

godot10:
The Las Vegas team should have been named….

…Vegas Velvet Elves

With their logo they should have been called the Vegas Transformers.

godot10

The Las Vegas team should have been named….

…Vegas Velvet Elves

Confused

On the 14th round NYI so s!

We are still top!!!!!!!

Professor Q

N64: Apparently Knights was blocked. Fans will shorten to Vegas and Knights anywaysno matter what the owner picked.

The long name is carried more with images. There’s a take on The Fabulous Las Vegas Star in their secondary logo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Fabulous_Las_Vegas_sign

comment image

~ They missed the main chance. Vegas West Stars. Never enough ÑHL teams with Stars. ~

Yeah, by London. No idea how a team in a completely different and subservient league gets priority, but alas, there we have it.

I actually don’t mind the name, even with that point. K lights screwed them of a fluid name, so they screwed the Knights in a way too. I’m a London fan but it is what it is.

I don’t mind the logo or colour scheme, either. Leaving out the Las is strange though.

Ryan

Lowetide: Well, that wasn’t the trade (NYI moved up for Beauvillier) but would have both inside the top 5.

Yes, I did realize that. We could also substitute whomever McKenzie had who was available at 33. I’m not sure who that would have been.

It’s funny that of the Reinhart and Hall trades, I’m probably alone here in being more irked by the Reinhart trade.

Now, while I didn’t like the initial return in the Hall trade, I could at least partially understand the rationale for the trade. Immense pressure to turn north in the new building… Oilers desperate for a right shot defenseman… no other team wanting to do the Oilers a favor… market value for Hall sunk by the stench of playing for a perennial bottom-feeder… Hall being the only Oiler outside of McDavid that other teams had much interest in…

At the time of the trade, I knew very little about Larsson outside of several years of NyCOil suggesting a Larsson for Yakupov trade.

At this juncture, while many of us are even more so feeling crestfallen at the return on Taylor Hall. at least Larsson is still a good hockey player. We may still lack a RHS powerplay QB and a RHS top pairing defender for that matter, but he’s still a very useful hockey player on a very reasonable contract. That’s something.

In contrast, the Reinhart trade which to me stunk like obc from its inception still bothers me more. My reaction to the trade is on record in the relevant thread here. The idea of trading premium picks in an epically deep draft for a left shot defensive dman with skating concerns who’s development was flagging was beyond galling and tremendously foolish.

One of the first things I did after the trade was visit a lighthouse hockey. Haha, the bloggers there were giddy with joy,

I guess I’m funny this way. Not many of us liked the Hall trade, but at least we got a very useful young defenseman on a good contract with term.

For the Reinhart trade, we spent premium picks on a player we never needed at all ever,

Mustard Tiger

GMB3:
Random Q for those who play fantasy hockey here. I play in a league with the classic stats like G, A, P. And hits FW and SOG. Who is a better value player? Drouin or Rackell? Gotta bring Drouin off the IR but Rackell has had a good start to the year.

Rackell would be the safer play, but Drouin is gonna get a big push with Stamkos out. I would go Drouin, although I admit it is riskier.

Ryan

Lowetide: It is highly unusual, and problematic.

Since we don’t know the Oilers board, for fun where would you have Barzal and Beauvillier on the winter top 20?

Confused

OilClog,

He is looking for multiple!e years at big numbers.

If we are going to progress as a team we need a genuine RHD not a LHD pretending to play right.

Hopefully something opens up this summer

vishcosity

I wonder if there is a different way to approach the stat issues.

Focusing on one single event, say sleppy’s goal last night, we can know all the following:

x,y location
Time of goal
Oilers on ice
Hawks on ice
Game score

Is there more information available? I’m honestly not sure.

We also can know some things about the event prior.

Was it a shot on net?
Was there a line change?

Without actually watching the games, what else can be known about that event?

YKOil

Alpine: No real benefit to us unless they throw in something good, i’m not sure if they would. Laich has a higher cap hit than Fayne plus he’s in the AHL. Bozak would make more sense if you really had to dump Fayne.

Forget that, WSH retained 1 mil on Laich. Even still, Laich wouldn’t really do much good for us.

And the value of not paying Fayne next year?

dustrock

Pronman on Sleppy is pretty spot-on, even at the NHL level

DevilsLettuce

Confused:
Russell for more than this year is a disaster, too expensive and only okay.

Will they ever finalize the expansion rules?

Go NYI, currently 2-1 up

why would it be a disaster? is there something suggesting that next season he will no longer carry the ingredients that make him the player that he is? over the summer will his will to compete vanish? will he develop a weak hip?

what sort of disaster will it be compared to Faynes? how about Nikitin? Ference? Whitney? Souray? if he can skate, play, sacrifice prefer postioning for the team

bring on the disaster

Alpine

YKOil:
So… TSN guys saying Toronto is looking for a shut-down D.They won’t get one without offering a LOT, even with expansion coming up.

BUT

If Fayne gets healthy… how would a Fayne for Laich trade go down?

Also – excellent Russell hypothesis godot10.

No real benefit to us unless they throw in something good, i’m not sure if they would. Laich has a higher cap hit than Fayne plus he’s in the AHL. Bozak would make more sense if you really had to dump Fayne.

Forget that, WSH retained 1 mil on Laich. Even still, Laich wouldn’t really do much good for us.

YKOil

So… TSN guys saying Toronto is looking for a shut-down D. They won’t get one without offering a LOT, even with expansion coming up.

BUT

If Fayne gets healthy… how would a Fayne for Laich trade go down?

Also – excellent Russell hypothesis godot10.

Confused

Russell for more than this year is a disaster, too expensive and only okay.

Will they ever finalize the expansion rules?

Go NYI, currently 2-1 up

jonrmcleod

To me, that looks like a good top 8. Is it unusual to have none of the top 8 currently in the AHL?

Dixs35

Hey left field can someone direct me to the comments on the bob Burger. It looks like it’s been pulled off the sight thank you

Woodguy

godot10,

Nice post

Centre of attention

Confused:
Centre of attention,

Apart from rentals trading for a defender this season makes little sense because of the forthcoming expansion

Edit: perhaps a low level trade is okay but depends upon if you are keeping Davey.

Good point on waiting until the expansion dust settles.

I mean there could be some ridiculous block-buster trades during or after the expansion process.

Certain teams are at risk of losing really good players and would rather trade them for something than lose em’ for nothing right?Trades will happen this summer. Big time.

A deadline move would be cool, Michael Stone has been mentioned, a guy who is a right shot and can move the puck a bit. The cost would have to be low and Arizona definitely looks like a seller this deadline. Chayka mentioned after they added Goligoski / Schenn that they might look at moving a D-man. Then they got De-Angelo. They have a lot of nice blue.

I fear the Oilers are satisfied with Russel and write him in as second pair Right D in pen for the next 3 years or so. That would be sub-optimal IMO.

MrEd

Slepyshev has my imagination. Somehow this kid gets it. With a proper push he might even earn some money.

JD_Wry

MrEd: NTC?

Limited NTC, from what I read. Not sure where you find out the details on those things though.

MrEd

Is Burns a D or F from an expansion perspective?

No NMC/NTC? Really?
RNH might be in play?

JD_Wry

Bah, I didn’t even realize this before when thinking about the Burns extension:

Besides, the CBA is set to expire in a few more years. You know what that means, right? Compliance buyouts! Get out of jail free cards!

From the ON piece by Cam Lewis.

N64

JDï™:
Well we’ve got another ‘Golden’ team in the league, which should make the old-timers happy, and another owner saying crazy things like ‘I don’t want to use the Las in the name, because it sounds like loss’…

Alrighty then.

Apparently Knights was blocked. Fans will shorten to Vegas and Knights anyways no matter what the owner picked.

There’s a take on The Fabulous Las Vegas Star in their secondary logo:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Fabulous_Las_Vegas_sign
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~ They missed the main chance. Vegas West Stars. Never enough ÑHL teams with Stars. ~

JD_Wry

Confused: perhaps a low level trade is okay

Wideman at the deadline?

Confused

Centre of attention,

Apart from rentals trading for a defender this season makes little sense because of the forthcoming expansion

Edit: perhaps a low level trade is okay but depends upon if you are keeping Davey.

Centre of attention

So now that Burns is off the table do you think Chiarelli starts looking other places?

Are there other places? Trade rumors regarding the Oilers have been quiet, but Brian Wilde (covers the Habs) mentioned Nugent Hopkins as a potential Habs target, and Friedman in today’s 30 thoughts mentioned the Habs would be looking for an impact forward to load up for a Stanley.

I dunno if the two teams work as a trading partner though, I don’t see anything on the Habs that seems reasonable in return for Nuge. Nothing they would want to trade anyways.

Stauffer has mentioned the Hurricanes as being interested in Nuge as well during the summer as well. There is a connection between one of the Carolina coaching staff and Nuge, Rod Brind’Amour IIRC.

*edit*
The return would have to be impressive for me to move Nuge, I’m literally just spit balling ideas. Love Nuge and would rather keep him

JD_Wry

Well we’ve got another ‘Golden’ team in the league, which should make the old-timers happy, and another owner saying crazy things like ‘I don’t want to use the Las in the name, because it sounds like loss’…

Alrighty then.

N64

Lowetide:
Las Vegas Golden Knights.

Official name is Vegas Golden Knights

flyfish1168

Mantis:
Apologies if this was in the AM thread – Burns signed for 8×8.

Elliotte Friedman

@FriedgeHNIC

Being signed at this time. 8 years at approx $8M https://twitter.com/realkyper/status/801172929044103168
2:21 PM – 22 Nov 2016

I believe that is a good thing. I believe we probably would have tried to sign Burns and over pay to much for another player. I believe we are going to have enough CAP issues

N64

JDï™: I’m hoping it’s the same guy!

~ WAS the same guy! ~