CROSSTOWN TRAFFIC

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers have a new No. 1 line, and last night it clicked—leading the Oilers to a much needed victory. Patrick Maroon had a terrific night—three goals, one fight, major contribution to a win—and the Edmonton Oilers won its 20th game of the season about two months before normal. Is this the new normal? Well, I wouldn’t count on winning too many games the way Edmonton won last night. That said, a win is a win and it was interesting revisiting 2010 era victories.

LOVE THAT DIRTY WATER, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 4-8-0, goal differential -7
  • Oilers in October 2016: 7-2-0, goal differential +10
  • Oilers in November 2015: 4-7-2, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in November 2016: 5-8-2 goal differential -3
  • Oilers in December 2015: 7-6-1, goal differential -9
  • Oilers in December 2016: 7-2-5, goal differential +3
  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-5-2, goal differential -5
  • Oilers in January 2017: 1-1-0, goal differential -1
  • Oilers after 40, 2015-16: 16-21-3, goal differential -24
  • Oilers after 40, 2016-17: 20-13-7, goal differential +9

Edmonton reaches win No. 20 before the midway, that is some pretty impressive news. The team is +33 in goal differential year over year, +12 in points over the same time last season, and it looks like as many as four 20-goal scorers this year. We are on to Hoboken.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Klefbom—Gryba went 5-10 in 9:34, Gryba also played with Sekera (3-0 in 46 seconds), with Russell (1-2 in 40 seconds). Gryba went 6-6 with Nuge and got an assist on one of Maroon’s goals. Good night for the big man. Klefbom—Larsson went 3-5 together in 3:43. Gryba was 3-1 against Krejci, 2-4 against Bergeron. Klefbom was 3-2 against Krejci, 3-5 against Bergeron. The penalty against Gryba was an awful call, Oilers don’t get that penalty when they are established as a good team.
  • Sekera—Benning went 8-16 in 15:48, I thought they were the best pairing on the night despite the Corsi hemorrhage. Mobile defenders really make the modern game possible, and on a night the Oilers could not get a sliver of air through the neutral zone, this pairing was my favorite.
  • Russell—Larsson went 10-18 together in 16:22. I thought Larsson had a good game, although he had a fantastic chance to get the puck out late when the team was bleeding badly and put a bad shove on the puck. I do not like the pairing because neither man is a good outlet passer, and that was on display most of the night. Went 8-12 against the Bergeron (Marchand-Pastrnak) line.
  • No Oilers defenseman should send a copy of this tape as a portion of a resume.
  • Cam Talbot was a big part of the win, capably stopping 33 of 36, .917.
  • Stats via NHL.com, HockeyStats.ca, NaturalStatTrick.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Maroon—McDavid—Draisaitl were effective (Maroon was 13-15 with McDavid) with six points on the night, three goals for Maroon and a pair of assists for 97 leading the way. McDavid was 13-13 against Z, 11-18 against Bergeron. On a fire hose night, this line was the best by far.
  • Lucic—Nuge—Kassian went 11-17 together, 6-7 against Krejci and 1-7 against Bergeron. Nuge got the only point for the line (a goal!) and Kassian cheated more than I did at checkers when my kids were small and didn’t know the rules. I liked the line, hope McLellan keeps them together.
  • Pouliot—Caggiula—Eberle went 3-8 and didn’t show up for any good reasons I could see. People will hammer Pouliot for the tripping penalty that put the game in some jeopardy after the Bruins were truly screwed, but I will pass on the opportunity. Dumb play? Good God ya’ll, of course it was. BP probably gets fired into the sun soon, and there is little doubt in my mind the coach is at his end with this player. I think he can still play, so will leave it at that for now.
  • Lander—Letestu—Puljujarvi went 0-2 together in 3:43. The big news here is that Edmonton has burned a year of his free agency, and they did not Leon the Finn. It seems wasteful, but clearly this item didn’t matter to the general manager, or something else matters more. We are dealing with young people here, mind, but it is curious from the outside looking in.
  • If the Oilers had the Bergeron line behind the McDavid line, we could really talk.

PRE-GAME TRIBUTE

The pre-game tribute to Milt Schmidt was outstanding. The Boston Bruins should be congratulated on an outstanding tribute to a big part of its franchise. There was an online photo tribute too, exceptional quality.

CALEB JONES

Caleb Jones had a terrific WJs, Edmonton clearly grabbed a winner in the fourth round of the 2015 entry draft. I always wondered why the Oilers avoided the U.S. National Development Team, it is like a cherry picked all-star team. Since Peter Chiarelli arrived in Edmonton, the team has selected Jones and Graham McPhee in the two draft seasons. Previous to Jones selection in 2015, the last member of the U.S. National Development team to be chosen by Edmonton was Geoff Paukovich in 2004.

THE NEUTRAL ZONE

Edmonton is doing weird things in the neutral zone lately, they are producing more turnovers than all of the bakeries in all of the towns. It wasn’t always this way, and as Corey states above, McDavid refuses to comply. His tracking of the November NYI-EDM game is here, and his note above is in reaction to CMD over several periods. WheatnOil tracked the same game from the defensive size, fascinating views both.

Do they miss Nurse that much? Why is there so much chaos in the neutral zone? Is it lack of speed? Surely they can slingshot a speedy winger with a pass from a stationary center parked facing the Edmonton end? Nifty pass that hits the winger on the fly, forcing a trip or clean entry?

It is murder watching Edmonton in the neutral zone currently. They are better than this, need to fix right now.

It is incredible to be in a playoff spot this late in the season. Incredible for two reasons: One, because the air is so fine when you can talk about the trade deadline and a playoff push; and two, because looking back reminds us of just how much devastation took place. Those poor young players.

STANDINGS, JANUARY 6, 2017

Miles to go, but some clean air this morning. Edmonton won’t win many games like last night (Claude Julien was rightly pissed off at the loss after the game, the Hockey Gods were squarely against him), and they badly need to find some capable wingers for the stretch run. The list of needs remains same as it ever was, although young Matt Benning may be filling the RH puck mover role as we speak. Still need a scoring RW, still need a backup goalie, and if Leon remains at RW then a 3C is required. We’re on to Morristown.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun Friday morning on the radio, TSN1260 beginning at 10. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, Big Mouth Sports. WJs, Oilers-Bruins, more.
  • Simon Boisvert, Prospect Insider. What is up with the Puljujarvi handling, Caleb Jones at the WJs and Laurent Brossoit recall?
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. PointCounterPoint will focus on the Oilers at the trade deadline, and can they afford to wait that long?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Also, I will be doing an AMA on Reddit today at 2pm, on their main hockey page. I have no idea what it is, but am prepared for everything but math questions.

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Professor Q,

No, I understood you. No need to apologize.
Sorry if I got a bit defensive to all.

Professor Q

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”:
JDï™,

I did not quote you on the comment about Chia saying he was afraid he would get shot.

That was in response to another comment, which was not yours.

I think this is a red herring. Okay, so you are not bashing Bakersfield, you are just posting two different links about violence there in a hockey thread discussing why Puljujarvi was not sent to Bakersfield and putting an unflattering spotlight on it.Are we not to infer then that you are suggesting Edmonton is a better place to keep Puljujarvi than Bakersfield because it has a high crime rate?

If not then I apologize to you, but what is the point you are trying to make then?

No, you quoted me. I was questioning what people’s inferences were regarding bringing up those statistics, not making the assumptions myself. I’m sorry that you misunderstood my intent.

godot10

Oilers for 600, Alex.

Woodguy:
Using the “custom query” function at corsica.hockey to check a few things.

RE: Oilers are better this year:

1) Oilers CF% while McDavid was hurt last year and Korpse wasn’t on the ice 50.77%
Oilers CF% this year without McDavid 49.29%

2) Oilers GF% while McDavid was hurt last year and Korpse wasn’t on the ice 46.28%
Oilers GF% this year without McDavid 46.07%

Huh.

So if you remove McDavid and Korpse, last year’s team…..mostly without Klefbom (and no Russell or Benning) is better than this year’s team.

Huh.

How good is Taylor Hall?

theres oil in virginia

jm363561: Bit of a shock that. On first reading I thought it was Jordan Eberle. Strangely, I now feel a bit disappointed.

That says a lot about you.

theres oil in virginia

JDï™: a city where even the police shoot first and ask questions later.

Does that make it unique?

JDï™,

I did not quote you on the comment about Chia saying he was afraid he would get shot.

That was in response to another comment, which was not yours.

I think this is a red herring. Okay, so you are not bashing Bakersfield, you are just posting two different links about violence there in a hockey thread discussing why Puljujarvi was not sent to Bakersfield and putting an unflattering spotlight on it. Are we not to infer then that you are suggesting Edmonton is a better place to keep Puljujarvi than Bakersfield because it has a high crime rate?

If not then I apologize to you, but what is the point you are trying to make then?

JD_Wry

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Don’t trash Bakersfield based on a website survey.

The crime stats on the city are what they are – suggesting I’m ‘bashing’ the city is preposterous.

And as I said, I was speculating that an 18 yr old from a small Finnish town wasn’t the best fit for meth and murder central, a city where even the police shoot first and ask questions later.

Nowhere did I say Chiarelli was afraid he’d get shot. Allowing the kid to adjust to NA life away from home, in a cold northern Canadian city is a hands-down better bet for him.

jm363561

JDï™: Here’s another rather unflattering view of Bakersfield:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/01/the-county-kern-county-deadliest-police-killings

On the bright side being base there must be a hell of a motivation to improve and get back to Edmonton. (Where do you put the /S?).

jm363561

JDï™:

Edmonton Oilers Verified account
‏@EdmontonOilers


The #Oilers have assigned Jordan Oesterle to the @Condors.

Bit of a shock that. On first reading I thought it was Jordan Eberle. Strangely, I now feel a bit disappointed.

Professor Q:
So wait, now we’re suggesting that the main cause for playing JP limitedly in Edmonton is because Chia is afraid he’ll of all the prospects be shot?

Yes, I will call this tangent out for what it is: a pile of horse crap. Don’t trash Bakersfield based on a website survey. And definitely don’t suggest that crime is the reason they are not sending Puljujarvi there. That’s nonsense.

remlap: I have a good friend who lives in Antioch, California. He routinely refers to his neighborhood as a ghetto. My friends and I tell him ALL the time that he needs to move before he dies (half jokingly). Antioch might even score lower on these safety stats than Bakersfield. He’s been to Bakersfield twice in his life, both times on the way to LA.

“It’s pretty run down. A lot of homeless and poverty.”

So yes. I can confirm. Bakersfield is a rough town.

EDIT: Just looked up Antioch. They scored an 8. Wow.

I just looked up Tucson (where I abide).. it is rated a 1. LOL
https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/az/tucson/crime/

You should see the National Park I call home. Only danger is scorpion or black widow or rattler or getting lost in the desert without water. I have been all over America and Tucson, other than the area of South Tucson in the industrial areas at night, is pretty safe by comparison.

So, extrapolating that to Bakersfield, I would strongly caution against using one website to reach blanket conclusions about a city. As people who have lived in, still do or have ties to Edmonton we know all too well what it is like to be painted in a negative light.

Woodguy

Professor Q:
So wait, now we’re suggesting that the main cause for playing JP limitedly in Edmonton is because Chia is afraid he’ll of all the prospects be shot?

What who now?

Professor Q

So wait, now we’re suggesting that the main cause for playing JP limitedly in Edmonton is because Chia is afraid he’ll of all the prospects be shot?

Woodguy

VOR:
I speculated in the thread last night that JP mght still be growing and that this explains the slow play NHL minutes.

I am going to try giving that speculation some foundation. I spent years coaching in sports where really tall young people are everywhere, basketball, volleyball, and high jumping. Even at the University level these athletes are often still growing. That presents its own unique coaching challenges. A deterioration in technical skills you as a coach thought were hard wired isn’t unheard of, they suddenly can’t do what they used to because they can’t quite control their bodies. When the end plates of the bones aren’t fused the risk of an overuse injury is very real. I often had one or two kids effectively red shirting while they grew into their bodies.

I want to be clear, I have no first hand knowledge that this is what is happening. However, Jesse Puljujarvi is the right age and the right height for incomplete physical development to be a real issue. When you look at PC’s history with Tyler Seguin, the fact Puljujarvi is adjusting to a new language and culture, and the fact he seems to be quite a unique talent it seems reasonable, maybe even prudent to ignore the short term cap implications and to feed the kid an intermittent diet of low pressure NHL minutes.

I buy that.

Throw the cultural things on top and you want to coddle this young man.

RFA year burned is the cost.

Now, if they send him down to the AHL I’ll howl as it would represent a big mistake on timing, but I doubt they do.

Scungilli Slushy

NYCOIL “Gentleman Backpacker”: Oilers have a better road record than they do a home record…so I am not sure what that means. The latter part, 9/13 vs. playoff teams is probably the more meaningful number.

Gotta scrape a few more points out of the East games and then buckle down for the West. They have a terrific record vs. the West–good enough where I think that if the team can just get in the Dance then they have a real shot at scaring some of the bigger names in the West.

vs. West:14-4-5
vs. Pacific: 6-3-3
vs. Central: 8-1-2

The Pacific fading off and the East becoming strong (no more cake walks to the final) just as the Oilers rise is perfect. If all goes well the former strong teams will make a few blunders and the Oilers won’t and the road to the finals will be far easier and the team less banged up than it has been in the last 10 years. Let the East have the hard road while Connor is rocking.

JD_Wry

remlap: Antioch

Here’s another rather unflattering view of Bakersfield:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/01/the-county-kern-county-deadliest-police-killings

Pink Socks

Bruce Wayne: If we are talking track records, I think it is only fair to mention what Chiarelli did with Seguin at the end of Draft + 3.

Why do people talk about Chiarelli as if his track record is a point in his favour?His track record is horrific.

Oh I dunno, typically a Stanley Cup is in his favour as far as track records are concerned.

Also, I hardly equate the Seguin trade as something solely on the shoulders of Chiarelli. Watching Behind the B there were many issues that factored into that trade, wasn’t entirely his call, and I won’t rehash it further because it will end up in you bringing up a certain trade in recent history that I think you were unhappy with. I’ll leave it at this, a track record for a GM that includes a Stanley Cup and consistent playoff teams in Boston is a good one, regardless of your opinion.

VOR

I speculated in the thread last night that JP mght still be growing and that this explains the slow play NHL minutes.

I am going to try giving that speculation some foundation. I spent years coaching in sports where really tall young people are everywhere, basketball, volleyball, and high jumping. Even at the University level these athletes are often still growing. That presents its own unique coaching challenges. A deterioration in technical skills you as a coach thought were hard wired isn’t unheard of, they suddenly can’t do what they used to because they can’t quite control their bodies. When the end plates of the bones aren’t fused the risk of an overuse injury is very real. I often had one or two kids effectively red shirting while they grew into their bodies.

I want to be clear, I have no first hand knowledge that this is what is happening. However, Jesse Puljujarvi is the right age and the right height for incomplete physical development to be a real issue. When you look at PC’s history with Tyler Seguin, the fact Puljujarvi is adjusting to a new language and culture, and the fact he seems to be quite a unique talent it seems reasonable, maybe even prudent to ignore the short term cap implications and to feed the kid an intermittent diet of low pressure NHL minutes.

Woodguy

Bag of Pucks: Worth noting that fancystaters were almost unanimous in their praise of NSH getting Subban, and thus far, Montreal seems to have gotten the better early returns on the deal with Weber?

How are you measuring that?

Since Nov 29 Weber’s had 6 points and 3 of those are in the last 2 games.

Weber has 8 5v5 points. (2g, 6a)

Markov has 12, Petry has 13.

Weber has killing in on 5v4 to start the year, but that tailed off.

also,

Many fancystat people thought it was close, but prefer Subban.

DTMaboutheart’s WAR metric rates Weber higher.

You write like all fancystats come to the same conclusions and that is far from true.

Kepler

linkfromhyrule,

You are spot on imo. Exactly what I see as well. No forward support in the d zone during breakouts and therefore defence men consistently trying to make long stretch passes by rimming it around the boards or bank shots, both of which end in turnovers 80% of the time. I see this as poor coaching systems. Rather than looking for short quick passes to exit their zone, their first instinct is to now wrap around the boards and it’s killing them.

Woodguy

Bruce Wayne,

. I think all of this emphasis on learning English and culture shock is nonsense but not harmful.

I don’t have the links handy, but I’ve read enough first hand accounts of euro-players coming over and suffering from culture shock/more sickness/ anxiety that I do not dismiss this at all.

Mathematically, there is actually an adjustment for first year euros in the CHL because of it. (again, no link handy)

It’s very real.

Side

Bruce Wayne: If we are talking track records, I think it is only fair to mention what Chiarelli did with Seguin at the end of Draft + 3.

Why do people talk about Chiarelli as if his track record is a point in his favour?His track record is horrific.

This comment of yours is a false equivalency.

I await your pseudointellectual rebuttal that will be dripping with hyperbole and irony.

remlap

JDï™: In the following link on US crime stats, Bakersfield got a safety rating of 7, with 100 being the best rating. Meaning that it’s safer than only 7% of US cities. Yikes.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/bakersfield/crime/

Slepy’s only fault might be that he comes from a fairly large Russian city, and not a Finnish town of 22k.

Watching an oblivious Jesse walk through a camera shot while stuffing pizza into his mouth, leads me to speculate that he might not be a good match to walk the streets of Bakersfield.

I have a good friend who lives in Antioch, California. He routinely refers to his neighborhood as a ghetto. My friends and I tell him ALL the time that he needs to move before he dies (half jokingly). Antioch might even score lower on these safety stats than Bakersfield. He’s been to Bakersfield twice in his life, both times on the way to LA.

“It’s pretty run down. A lot of homeless and poverty.”

So yes. I can confirm. Bakersfield is a rough town.

EDIT: Just looked up Antioch. They scored an 8. Wow.

gogliano

Re: Puljujarvi

I think Oilers fans are too sensitive to ruining players for two reasons: (1) we’ve had a terrible team for a decade and some of our vaunted prospects were, in truth, not that vaunt; (2) we were also probably at the extreme end of ruining kids during that run, not the least of reasons being that we had a terrible team.

That said, players who are selected top 5 in an NHL draft usually get there because of over a decade of elite training and dedication to their sport. A year of light play is not the kind of trauma or mistraining that ruins an 18 year old’s development. I also have my doubts that development varies that much between NHL teams.

And one thing Puljujarvi has, and will have, that people like Gagner and Yakupov didn’t is the optimism and confidence that is brought by virtue of being on a winning team.

I suspect VOR is mostly right that they are physically protecting a man child at an awkward age. He is, I believe, the youngest player in the league. My preference was for him to return to Finland, but if you want him learning North American hockey, I see the wisdom in protecting Puljujarvi from the grind and violence of the rough and tumble AHL.

Woodguy: Oilers play 9 out of 12 games on the road in February.

If you include NSH (I think they make the playoffs this year) 9 of their 13 games in February are against playoff teams.

Feb is going to be tough.

Oilers have a better road record than they do a home record…so I am not sure what that means. The latter part, 9/13 vs. playoff teams is probably the more meaningful number.

Gotta scrape a few more points out of the East games and then buckle down for the West. They have a terrific record vs. the West–good enough where I think that if the team can just get in the Dance then they have a real shot at scaring some of the bigger names in the West.

vs. West:14-4-5
vs. Pacific: 6-3-3
vs. Central: 8-1-2

JD_Wry

And speaking of Yakupov, 3G, 3A, 21 GP.

About that conditional pick…

treevojo

square_wheels,

9.7 + 6.5= pretty good chance

Cassandra

Pink Socks:
Tyler Seguin Draft+1
74-11-11-22 12:13 ATOI, 8.4% SP on 131 shots

Jesse Puljujarvi Draft+1
28-1-7-8 11:15 ATOI, 2.4% SP on 41 shots

Jesse Puljujarvi Draft+1 (74 games)
74-3-18-21 11:15 ATOI, 2.4% SP on 108 shots

1 point off, 1 minute less, shitty shooting percentage, it can only climb. Clearly the young man is ruined.I’d like to see him in Bakersfield as well, but I’ll defer to the coach and GM with strong track records on their development of him, and considering a baseline comparison, I’m not overly concerned.

Tyler Seguin Draft+2
81-29-38-67 16:56 ATOI, 12.0% SP on 242 shots

If we are talking track records, I think it is only fair to mention what Chiarelli did with Seguin at the end of Draft + 3.

Why do people talk about Chiarelli as if his track record is a point in his favour? His track record is horrific.

JonyPro

I finally dropped Eberle from my fantasy hockey team. I was getting sick of seeing zeroes across the board. Picked up Maroon tho?

Truth

JDï™,

I’m not disagreeing. There’s something going on with JP.

I do know a couple people that lived in Bakersfield for a year or two and it’s not all that bad. Like anywhere, don’t go looking for trouble and you won’t find it. The players stay pretty busy at the rink, on the road, doing promotional events, and playing Call of Duty.

square_wheels

Professor Q,

Whats the odds that combined they make 16M+ ?

square_wheels

JDï™,

That shot was hilarious, reminded me of a young Janne Niinimaa, just completely oblivious that he was on on the countries largest Sports broadcaster eating like the 18yr man-child he is.

What I have seen is young player that has a blistering shot but doesn’t quite appreciate the limited time he has to get it released, an 18 yr old that knows where his lane is, stays in it, engages for loose pucks and hustles his ass on the back check. Lately the strength is just not there, he’s a kid, but playing against other men in the AHL isnt likely going to improve his conditioning, in fact as TheBear mentioned, maybe Chia wants him close to monitor the development.

I think the boy is going to be a Marion Hossa, just needs to quit growing and be surrounded by good influences.

Who’s he living with btw ?

bendelson

JDï™: Watching an oblivious Jesse walk through a camera shot while stuffing pizza into his mouth, leads me to speculate that he might not be a good match to walk the streets of Bakersfield.

This made me chuckle…
The small town Finn with that big, dopey grin obliviously walking the mean streets of Bakersfield.
What could go wrong?

dustrock
Professor Q

kgo,

Don’t forget Draisaitl and McDavid’s extensions.

JD_Wry

Truth: Yakupov to the Gulag.

Yes, but like I said – Jesse being 18 and from a small town is much different than being older and from a larger Russian city.

Again, just speculation – but that’s what we do when we don’t have the whole story.

kgo

It’s fine to disagree with Chia and TMAC’s handling of JP’s first season…but let’s stop acting like we have proof this is the wrong course for him, or for the team…

When it comes to the draft we all agree it takes 5 years before conclusions should be drawn, so in this case we should be waiting at least 3 years to draw conclusions.

Cap implications…if we sent JP down and saved a year of RFA, JP might begrudgingly remember that when it comes to his next contract negotiation…(are we seeing this with Leon?) speaking of negotiations, having burnt a year of JP’s ELC allows Chia to discuss an extension with him as early as July 2018? Imagine, if things go very well, how much more ammo his agent could gather during the 2018-2019 season if JP is playing on MCD’s wing?

Also, getting the uncertainty of JP’s rookie bonus off the books has some value to it…although likely outweighed by the $ of his new contract.

treevojo

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!:
So hypothetical

Jagr for Pouliot straight up?

The Cats get a replacement left winger with a decent history on playoff bound teams plus one more year on term. Oilers get the ageless wonder who I dare say would trump even the Looch in the leadership and work ethic department.

edit: the Oilers may need to eat a million of that 2nd year on Pouliot

The first question I always like to ask myself when I think of trade proposals is if the player were to be put on waivers would he be picked up.

I think if pouliot were put on waivers today he would go through without so much as a sniff.

I think if Jagr were to be put on waivers today there would be teams lined up to take him off Florida’s hands.

Therefor I think it would take a lot more then eating a million dollars off the second year of pouliot’s contract to get that deal to fly.

Truth

JDï™: In the following link on US crime stats, Bakersfield got a safety rating of 7, with 100 being the best rating. Meaning that it’s safer than only 7% of US cities. Yikes.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/bakersfield/crime/

Could be worse. Looks like they sent Yakupov to the Gulag.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mo/st-louis/crime/

Pink Socks

Tyler Seguin Draft+1
74-11-11-22 12:13 ATOI, 8.4% SP on 131 shots

Jesse Puljujarvi Draft+1
28-1-7-8 11:15 ATOI, 2.4% SP on 41 shots

Jesse Puljujarvi Draft+1 (74 games)
74-3-18-21 11:15 ATOI, 2.4% SP on 108 shots

1 point off, 1 minute less, shitty shooting percentage, it can only climb. Clearly the young man is ruined. I’d like to see him in Bakersfield as well, but I’ll defer to the coach and GM with strong track records on their development of him, and considering a baseline comparison, I’m not overly concerned.

Tyler Seguin Draft+2
81-29-38-67 16:56 ATOI, 12.0% SP on 242 shots

JD_Wry

Professor Q: Baffling.

In the following link on US crime stats, Bakersfield got a safety rating of 7, with 100 being the best rating. Meaning that it’s safer than only 7% of US cities. Yikes.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/bakersfield/crime/

Slepy’s only fault might be that he comes from a fairly large Russian city, and not a Finnish town of 22k.

Watching an oblivious Jesse walk through a camera shot while stuffing pizza into his mouth, leads me to speculate that he might not be a good match to walk the streets of Bakersfield.

Woodguy

npanciroli:
Woodguy,

Pouliot, Eberle, Lucic and to an extent RNH are playing like ass this year so it certainly checks out.

CF% wise and GF% wise RNH is way off, they others are off, but not by a ton

Woodguy

npanciroli:
Woodguy,

I guess Russell kind of tanks the numbers too eh?

“Oilers CF% this year without McDavid 49.29%” that number is crazy impressive to me.

I can’t run Oilers without Russell AND McDavid, so I can’t tell for sure, but all signs point to it.

The fact that without Klef and McDavid last year that they ran over 50% when Korpse wasn’t on the ice makes this year’s 49.29% look pretty pale imo

Woodguy

healthyscratch: There are rumors swirling in Nashville that Subban has a herniated disc and likely will miss the rest of the season.I know they’ve played well without him recently,but that’s a huge blow.

Agreed, massive.

I still think they’re deep enough to grab a spot.

Truth

Professor Q: Baffling.

I know we all are saying that there must be *something* going on behind the scenes or some master plan, and that TMac and Chia are masterminds and didn’t mess up, but there seems to be no logical reasoning behind not having sent JP down even as early as game 9. No matter how we look at it, and we did it a lot yesterday and days before. Playing 3-8 minutes a night?

Has to be something behind the scenes. He was being outplayed by Slepy and Slepy got sent down before him.

Seems to be talk of JP playing at an acceptable level in the NHL. I think he was doing so earlier in the season, but is constantly regressing. He’s lost all confidence, which is to be expected of the youngest player in the league playing 9 mins a night and 50% of the games. In a vacuum, I bet he would be the first person to admit he would be best served playing where he can play 18 minutes per night. At this point I hope there is a some sort of underlying reason he cannot be sent down, because as it is now it appears to be complete incompetence by the organization.

Bag of Pucks

healthyscratch: There are rumors swirling in Nashville that Subban has a herniated disc and likely will miss the rest of the season.I know they’ve played well without him recently,but that’s a huge blow.

Worth noting that fancystaters were almost unanimous in their praise of NSH getting Subban, and thus far, Montreal seems to have gotten the better early returns on the deal with Weber?

healthyscratch

Woodguy: Oilers play 9 out of 12 games on the road in February.

If you include NSH (I think they make the playoffs this year) 9 of their 13 games in February are against playoff teams.

Feb is going to be tough.

There are rumors swirling in Nashville that Subban has a herniated disc and likely will miss the rest of the season. I know they’ve played well without him recently, but that’s a huge blow.

Bag of Pucks

The importance of the American Hockey League in developing players

http://www.phpa.com/news/story/664

Gret99zky

Hopefully the brass know what they are doing with JP. If he busts or performs less than expected after year 5 the development system will be brought into question. No doubt about it.

Can’t wait for Benoit Pouliot to turn it around so we can start mentioning him alongside Pete Rose (4256 hits) and the 70’s Canadiens (6 Stanley Cups).

😉

Professor Q

JDï™: I looked earlier for practice tweets, and it was just that Pou and Hendricks were running drills with the defenders, and that Davey will be back for tomorrow.

Also, the AHL transaction page doesn’t even list Oesterle going back down, which was tweeted out by the Oilers a while ago:

http://theahl.com/transactions?f_season_id=51&f_team_id=402&team=402&season=54&resultsPerPage=50

Baffling.

I know we all are saying that there must be *something* going on behind the scenes or some master plan, and that TMac and Chia are masterminds and didn’t mess up, but there seems to be no logical reasoning behind not having sent JP down even as early as game 9. No matter how we look at it, and we did it a lot yesterday and days before. Playing 3-8 minutes a night? Burning both a contract year and an RFA year for nothing?

Are they that confident that they can sign him to a cheap 8-year contract after a few years (without development), when McDavid and Draisaitl would have recently received large 8-year contracts as well?

That’s even worse than Yakupov Treatment™.

Versteeg really would have changed a lot, it seems…

And I don’t know how likely the Bakersfield Vote of Confidence would be. I mean they’re impressed right now with their AHL prospects, although aren’t playing some college signings and JP there due to their NHL positions being over development, but you’d think if they were upset with it they’d have hired new coaches and GMs and maybe even moved the team to a different area.

After so many years of not having a good development system you’d think they’d value it more than has been suggested.