DRAFT LOTTERY? WHAT DRAFT LOTTERY?

by Lowetide

There were times over the last seven years where the highlight of the season for Edmonton fans was the draft lottery. This year? Not so much. There is some question about where Edmonton will select in the first round, and it has a lot to do with how far they go in the playoffs.

These are the odds for each team, I’m hoping Vegas wins the whole damn thing and drafts No. 1 overall. Here are my 31 best players in the draft:

LOWETIDE’S FIRST ROUND RANKINGS, 2017

  1. RC Nolan Patrick, Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL). A complete talent but not an elite one.
  2. L Nico Hischier, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). A more dynamic offensive player than Patrick.
  3. R Owen Tippett, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL). He covers 3 important categories (size, speed, sniper).
  4. L Elias Pettersson, Timra (Swe-1). Impressive talent, very skilled.
  5. RD Timothy Liljegren, Rogle (Swe Jr). He is a mobile 2-way D with impressive skill.
  6. LC Casey Mittelstadt, Green Bay Gamblers (USHL). Speed and skill, NHLE.
  7. RD Cale Makar, Brooks Bandits (AJHL). Fast, exceptional puck-moving acumen.
  8. RC Cody Glass, Portland Winterhawks (WHL). Complete skill set(NHLE: 30).
  9. RC Gabriel Vilardi, Windsor Spitfires (OHL). Creative C with size, NHLE (33).
  10. L Eeli Tolvanen, Sioux City Musketeers (USHL). Plus skater, NHL shot and release.
  11. R Kailer Yamamoto, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Smart, elusive, offensive.
  12. LD Juuso Valimaki, Tri-City Americans (WHL). A big two-way D, smart, creative.
  13. RC Nick Suzuki, Owen Sound Attack (OHL).  Skill and creativity, a little one dimensional.
  14. RC Robert Thomas, London Knights (OHL). Speedy forward, creative.
  15. LC Lias Andersson, Linkoping (SHL). Throwback 2-way C, aggressive, quick. 5.11, 200.
  16. RC Martin Necas, Brno (Czech). High speed skill W, just 5.11.
  17. C Michael Rasmussem, Tri-City Americans (WHL). Big C, physical, good skater.
  18. LD Nicholas Hague, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL). Rangy, aggressive, emerging offense.
  19. R Kole Lind, Kelowna Rockets (WHL). Speedy W with skill. Good Oil option.
  20. R Klim Kostin, Balashikha (MHL). Giant winger, good offense. Injured.
  21. LC Alexei Lipanov, Dyanmo Balashikha (VHL). Impressive 2-way resume.
  22. L Kristian Vesalainen, Frolunda (SHL). Big W, skilled, strong, can play L or R.
  23. RD Conor Timmins, SSE Greyhounds (OHL). Smart, reads plays well, excellent passer.
  24. LD Miro Heiskanen, HIFK (Sm-Liiga). Puck-mover, excellent vision and speed.
  25. LC Ryan Poehling, St. Cloude State (NCAA). Big skill C with an offensive reputation.
  26. RC Morgan Geekie, Tri-City Americans (WHL). C w/2-way rep and emerging offense.
  27. RC Ivan Lodnia, Erie Otters (OHL). Small skill C, great skater.
  28. LC Joshua Norris, USNDTP (USHL). Two-way C showing good offense.
  29. RD Cal Foote, Kelowna Rockets (WHL). Huge D, awkward skater, good passer, tough.
  30. L Matthew Strome, Hamilton Bulldogs (OHL). Strong 2-way W, offensive potential.
  31. C Mason Shaw, Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL). Small skill C, terrific skills.

THE OILERS AT THE DRAFT TABLE

  • First Round: No. 24 overall
  • Third Round: No. 84 overall (FROM ST. LOUIS—this is payment for Nail Yakupov)
  • Third Round: No. 86 overall
  • Fourth Round: No. 117 overall
  • Fifth Round: No. 126 overall (FROM Vancouver—this is payment for Phil Larsen)
  • Fifth Round: No. 148 overall
  • Sixth Round: No. 179 overall
  • Seventh Round: No. 210 overall

One of the cool things to follow is Edmonton’s second-round selection this year. Lost to an NHL ransom rule in 2015 spring, it now belongs to Boston in payment for Peter Chiarelli—fired by the Bruins days before being hired by the Oilers.

So, fans may take some delight in the possible implications of the current playoff run. Edmonton’s pick currently stands at No. 55 overall, but a victory over Anaheim puts that pick anywhere from No. 59 to No. 62. If you are interested in reading more about my draft rankings, my complete list is here.

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N64

Diablo: What we see on TV is simply manufactured drama – the results are known to the men sitting there well ahead of time

They better not. The guys who watched the actual draw are still in the lockup. 😉

Diablo

I recommend everyone go and read the article on Sportsnet by Mike Johnston about how the lottery draft is actually conducted – very insightful.

4 lottery balls are drawn for draft position 1, 2 and 3, each of which corresponds to a 4 digit code previously assigned to a team.

All of the team representatives are present for the drawing.

What we see on TV is simply manufactured drama – the results are known to the men sitting there well ahead of time.

Pretty hard to rig a system like – makes me even more appreciative to the Hockey Gods who gifted us with McDavid (and Taylor Hall’s mojo of course).

northof51

godot10,

Please don’t forget about the April 1st game where the Oil carried the play, with a 60% xGF.

Oil also had 54% xGF on March 23, 57% on December 3, and a 61% xGF on November 15.

Just wanted to post this to show that the Oilers have dominated the Ducks this year in some games. The November 15th game, where the Oilers deserved to win by all accounts, was lost 4-1 to these Ducks.

danny

The only team I was actively hoping to avoid in rd1 via seeding was Nashville. Teams with D like that creating offense and a hot goaler, plus one of the best lines in hockey are tough to beat. So I was not surprised at the Chicago win. I was disappointed because I think Edmonton matched up better against Chi.

If Edmonton gets through to face them next round, it’s gonna be tough.

spoiler

JDI Хоккей:
Bank Shot,

Other than, “Not Vancouver… Not Vancouver… Not Vancouver… Not Vancouver…”

+4

JD_Wry

Bank Shot,

Other than, “Not Vancouver… Not Vancouver… Not Vancouver… Not Vancouver…”

Bank Shot

It felt so good not caring about the draft lottery tonight. 🙂

Younger Oil

On another note:

Just got a chance to watch the PIT-WAS highlights.

Take a look at the delayed penalty on the 2-1 goal.

McDavid deals with that shit every single time he touches the puck. Sometimes when he doesn’t.

Once McDavid becomes a veteran and the Oilers get the respect of the refs, he will be unstoppable.

Gayfish

Little Poteet:
If the good guys win the Cup this year Ron McLean should be heralded as a prophet. He called a win within a couple years of the McDavid draft

There are religions founded on stupider prophecies.

Little Poteet

If the good guys win the Cup this year Ron McLean should be heralded as a prophet. He called a win within a couple years of the McDavid draft

Pouzar

godot10: No Russell Resets.Play fast.Play fast out of your own end, even if it means placing the puck to space, and then beat your opponent to the puck.Play rush offense.They can play an elite rush driver on three lines. The system matches the abilities of the players.

Thanks. Makes sense. I haven’t watched much hockey thus far outside of Oilers run.

godot10

Anaheim has played the Oilers even or dominated the Oilers in every game this season and have 2 wins and 5 losses. Talbot has won two or three of the games dominated by the Ducks. Fortunately the goaltender is part of the team.

It is Foreman against Ali, and the rope-a-dope is working.

The OIlers have gotten the saves and the bounces against the Ducks this year. One has to be good to be lucky, which essentially means that one has to be good enough so the natural variance in hockey is greater than the actual difference in quality between the two teams, so the result of the series ends up being determined by “chance”.

OF17

Zelepukin: Agreed. I’ve watched a handful of Pens games this year and he still very much Jultzs defensively on the regular. The three major factors that somewhat disguise his Jultzing is 2nd-3rd pair deployment, Crosby defensively covering his ass down low and playing 1st PP where your job is to pass to either Malkin, Kessel or Crosby for one-timers. Easily the best PP-point generating position in all of the league.

The crazy part is he’s probably going to get paid for it too. These playoffs have made me appreciate even more the type of defenseman Chiarelli enjoys. Well-rounded, no real weaknesses, not flashy, and effective against good opposition. Sekera, Larsson, Benning, even Russell to an extent. Those players are so much more important in the playoffs, when opposition is better, penalties are scarcer, and mistakes are magnified. Jultz’s game is less important for the same reasons.

We saw this in the first round of course. Burns may be the $8 Million Man, but Vlasic was the one carrying that defense for half the price. I’d rather add another shelterer than add to the sheltered.

Glass

NJ could actually make a quick turn around if they signed Shattenkirk and brought Kovalchuk back.

godot10

Pouzar:
Outside of Justin Orr who the fuck plays D for the Pens?
How are they doing this?

No Russell Resets. Play fast. Play fast out of your own end, even if it means placing the puck to space, and then beat your opponent to the puck. Play rush offense. They can play an elite rush driver on three lines. The system matches the abilities of the players.

Gayfish

I’d be shocked if this series doesn’t go to at least game six. I feel like we are way too high right now. Hopefully the players don’t feel the same as the fans.

Zelepukin

OF17: Jultz is a player I am still very fine with not having. From what I can tell, his Pittsburgh performances have been less about reinventing the wheel and more about getting nearly ideal deployment to maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. He still has the same fundamental flaws he had in Edmonton, he just now has the offensive production to get paid handsomely. I’d much rather spend our cap dollars on another Klefbom/Sekera/Larsson than spend them on Schultz.

Agreed. I’ve watched a handful of Pens games this year and he still very much Jultzs defensively on the regular. The three major factors that somewhat disguise his Jultzing is 2nd-3rd pair deployment, Crosby defensively covering his ass down low and playing 1st PP where your job is to pass to either Malkin, Kessel or Crosby for one-timers. Easily the best PP-point generating position in all of the league.

OF17

blainer:
I wonder If Ottawa has it in them to get through the east.They have quite the Gem there in Karlsson.

I wouldn’t mind an Ottawa Oil final either.

But CMD against Crosby would be something to see too.Would also be fun to read along on the comments about Jultz. What a turn of events that will be.

Did not see that coming. Thought he would be washed up by now. That is one player who made the most of his second chance.

Jultz is a player I am still very fine with not having. From what I can tell, his Pittsburgh performances have been less about reinventing the wheel and more about getting nearly ideal deployment to maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. He still has the same fundamental flaws he had in Edmonton, he just now has the offensive production to get paid handsomely. I’d much rather spend our cap dollars on another Klefbom/Sekera/Larsson than spend them on Schultz.

Offside

Duane Hewitt,

As far as 41-1 bets go, that was an astute one

unca miltie

blainer,

oilers have a few games to win first. Sadly, I still expect the Anaheim series to be tough and Nashville is playing well.

Offside

Ribs,

Winning before ELC’s expire? Sweet!

Offside

Whatif,

He was the 1st overall in 2010 though, wasn’t he? But I agree, that’s a unfortunate series of events

wintoon

With the results of this years draft lottery a strange draft record has been set that may never be equalled.

Since 2010 Taylor Hall has been on the team drafting first overall 5 times. He was with Edmonton in 2010, 20111, 2012, 2015 and now 2017 with the Devils. What is even stranger, he has not played a single playoff game in all that time.

Strange how things work out.

Chachi

Ribs: That was a gif in the making right there. What the heck was that about?

It was a magnificent sight to behold.

Ribs

Chachi:
Trotz’s eyebrows are twitching out of control!

That was a gif in the making right there. What the heck was that about?

Undies

Offside:
blainer,

Yep. That combined with the Pittsburgh game made me think of it. What were the odds at the beginning of the season? 75-1?

I put a sneaky $10 on them after the good start in October at 41-1.

Pouzar

blainer: For some crazy reason they just don’t reach their expiration date around here..

Amazing how that works. 🙂

Chachi

Trotz’s eyebrows are twitching out of control!

blainer

I wonder If Ottawa has it in them to get through the east.They have quite the Gem there in Karlsson.

I wouldn’t mind an Ottawa Oil final either.

But CMD against Crosby would be something to see too. Would also be fun to read along on the comments about Jultz. What a turn of events that will be.

Did not see that coming. Thought he would be washed up by now. That is one player who made the most of his second chance.

blainer

Excellent.. can never have too many beer in these parts..

For some crazy reason they just don’t reach their expiration date around here..

Pouzar

blainer: LOL.. I guess my prediction of us winning the cup is not so crazy after all..

I will be sending you many beers back to Gord’s country!

Lloyd B.

blainer: LOL.. I guess my prediction of us winning the cup is not so crazy after all..

Oh it’s crazy. But I love me some crazy !!

blainer

Offside:
blainer,

Yep. That combined with the Pittsburgh game made me think of it. What were the odds at the beginning of the season? 75-1?

I knew I should have made the bet then. I really believed we had a great shot at winning the cup even in September. I didn’t say too much about it because people would just think I was crazy.

Now .. I really don’t mind saying it.

We are winning the Cup !!

geowal

theDjdj:
https://twitter.com/hallsy09/status/858479406637084672

I still miss him

Peter Chiarelli @FakeOilersGM
Replying to @hallsy09
why didn’t you tell me about your powers??

Ribs

Offside:
I wonder if the hockey gords are planning a McDavid vs Crosby final. If so, it might be for the purpose of teaching McDavids Oilers the same lessons Gretzky’s Oilers needed to learn before they could win the Cup

Apparently Gretzky has been attending every game and practice so maybe they can get ahead of that curve.

Offside

blainer,

Yep. That combined with the Pittsburgh game made me think of it. What were the odds at the beginning of the season? 75-1?

blainer

Pouzar: That is Bonkers. I love it. But Bonkers.

LOL.. I guess my prediction of us winning the cup is not so crazy after all..

Chachi

Diablo:
VOR,

Speaks to the value of the pick – if we could get a good RHD or 3C from Vegas, and they agreed to take Pouliot in expansion, I’d move the 1st this year.

Me too.

spoiler

Centre of attention:
I hope New Jersey wins it and Hall can be Nolan’s gunner for the next few years. He would be an awesome mentor, and I’m not trying to throw shade by saying this but he’s seen this story before and he knows what its like being a 1st overall coming into a not-so-good situation. He even mentored McDavid in his first year, who had nothing but good things to say about Taylor.

I also think NJ would benefit the most from getting that all-situations RHC at the top of the draft, they don’t really need another explosive scoring winger because they have Hall and possibly Kovalchuk as well. (theres a good chance he signs a 1 year deal in NJ to have a shot at FA next summer)

It would be awesome to see them make a rapid turn around kind of like the Oilers and have Hall taste some success. Also my preference an eastern conference team wins it rather than a divisional rival in Vegas.

If the Devils throw Patrick to the wolves like this, they truly will be the 2010 Oilers.

Ribs

Pouzar:
Outside of Justin Orr who the fuck plays D for the Pens?
How are they doing this?

Crosby, by the looks of things.

Chachi
blainer

Pouzar:
Outside of Justin Orr who the fuck plays D for the Pens?
How are they doing this?

Goaltending?

Pouzar

blainer: Edmonton is now favored to win the the cup in Vegas at 3/1 odds … Pitts is second with odds at 7/2..

That is Bonkers. I love it. But Bonkers.

Pouzar

Outside of Justin Orr who the fuck plays D for the Pens?
How are they doing this?

Chachi

Lowetide: Breaking: NJD sign Kirill Tulupov!

Ha! The Tulip has to be Hughson’s favourite player of all time!

blainer

Offside:
I wonder if the hockey gords are planning a McDavid vs Crosby final. If so, it might be for the purpose of teaching McDavids Oilers the same lessons Gretzky’s Oilers needed to learn before they could win the Cup

Edmonton is now favored to win the the cup in Vegas at 3/1 odds … Pitts is second with odds at 7/2..

We have come a long way folks !!

raventalon40

VOR:
Wow, weird draft lottery.

Bluntly, they need to pull a Zetterberg from this draft. Brett Hull would be even better, Connor meet the greatest volume shooter of all time.

Yakupov, what a wasted talent… 🙁

Too bad he could never make it stick in the NHL. That kid was always so excited to play hockey.

https://youtu.be/Ips9wptq7O0

Chachi

treevojo: With Taylor’s luck New Jersey won’t draft a genrational player until the last year of his contract and Shero will trade him at the deadline for a defenseman to balance the team.

Book it!

Seismic Source

Pitts-Wash just played half a period with a second puck on the ice. I was cheering for the second puck.

Woogie63

Is Arizona going to be better? Ekman-Larsso at $5.5M might be a huge chip than can be played now vs. his UFA Year.