2017 PLAYOFFS (G9): G3 DUCKS AT OILERS

by Lowetide

Such a bizarre series, seems I say every game is the biggest. Still, with a shocking 2-0 lead this morning, a win tonight hammers home the final result for both teams. I suspect we get Anaheim’s best effort tonight and we could go extra innings. I am beginning to wonder about Carlyle’s deployment, and the defensive depth of the Ducks. I have been told that the Getzlaf-Perry era is beginning to fade in Anaheim, but I don’t believe that for one damned minute.

OILERS DEPTH CHART AND PLAYOFF SCORING

  • Five of Edmonton’s 21 goals come via the blue, with some gigantic goals from the trio of Klefbom, Larsson and Sekera.
  • The most impressive number is Cam Talbot’s save percentage, that’s a rocket.
  • We’re all waiting for Connor McDavid to break out and post a gigantic crooked number, and he had the jet boots on ’11’ on Friday night. Wingers gotta cash. It’s a tribute to 97 that we all agree his impact game is a matter of when and not if it happens.
  • Drake Caggiula has zero points but he’s getting closer. One of those line drives is going to fall in someday soon. Looks like he will play tonight.
  • The Nuge line skilled for the winning goal on Friday night, RNH and Eberle made good plays to get it done. Maroon found a way.
  • Zack Kassian has more goals called back in one season than anyone in my lifetime. Seems to be taking it in stride, though.

I asked Ilya to reach out to one of the EMHL’s players, idea being giving you an idea about the experience. Lyndon Anderson plays for the Resistance, here’s what he told us:

  • I’ve been playing in the EMHL now for 10 years. I started out as a beginner in the coed league with no previous organized hockey experience. After 5 seasons I decided to start my own club in the EMHL men’s league as well as the coed league. My involvement in the EMHL has been very rewarding. Not only do I get to play with my brothers  but I’ve learned a lot about the game of hockey as well as how to manage a club and keep things organized on and off the ice. The task can be stressful at times but I find it’s worth it to see everyone enjoying themselves and having fun.

Click on the ad above if you are interested in joining a summer men’s or co-ed league, Ilya says if we get enough registrants he may turn it into a Lowetide team. I told him my team needed to lead the league in Corsi, after that it’s all good.

SUPER WOWY’S

The fantastically talented Puckalytics is running with or without you numbers during the playoffs and it’s a blast. Small sample size for sure, but fun all the same. If you want to spend several hours playing with it, check out the SuperWowy setup here. Here are some numbers to think about this morning.

  • Connor McDavid is 35.3 percent Corsi for 5×5 against Hampus Lindholm so far in the Anaheim series. He is 52.9 against the rest of the Ducks during this series. We are talking just 15:31, and score effects are part of the story, but interesting all the same.
  • Connor McDavid is 47.2 Corsi for percentage against Ryan Kesler, in 16:36, 40.6 percent without Kesler. Early days, important not to overrate these numbers but they are interesting.
  • Connor McDavid is 33.3 Corsi for percentage against Ryan Getzlaf, in 9:24, and 50 percent without Getzlaf.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is 25.0 Corsi for percentage against Getzlaf, in 16:23, and 37.5 percent without Getzlaf.

RECALLS

The Anaheim Ducks recalled Nicolas Kerdiles and Ondrej Kase, perhaps there is an injury or Randy Carlyle isn’t getting what he wants from specific players. Or it could be a matter of giving young prospects a taste of NHL playoff hockey. The Ducks constantly uncover useful and fun hockey players, their draft record is quality.

DRAKE CAGGIULA

Hockey-Reference’s player season finder is a dandy tool, and now that we are through the year we can begin to examine comparables. Drake Caggiula was a rookie at 22 and his comparables are players we mostly associate with being two-way types. It is a fine list, and if he ends up being Tobias Rieder we should celebrate, but unless Caggiula plays a lot on Connor McDavid’s line, the early numbers imply a mid-level offensive talent.

JESSE PULUJUARVI

This is a more promising group than I thought we would see, the eye ponders the Seguin comparable and the heart leaps. We need to factor in linemates (97) but sure, since JP is a year younger as a rookie we can contemplate. Before we proceed as if this is a reasonable comparable, I need to see Puljujarvi as a shooter (something Seguin delivered on as a rookie).

Jesse Puljujarvi totaled 7.81 shots-per-60 in all situations as a rookie, and Seguin’s total was 8.70 per 60. JP is a year younger, does that impact our decision? Puljujarvi has all kinds of gifts, but if he can emerge as a 30-goal scorer then Peter Chiarelli’s heavy work is far closer to being complete.

https://twitter.com/simonsnake70/status/858686625928314880

Boisvert is a very interesting follow on twitter, I have had him on my show to discuss Oilers prospects several times (and will again). I find his takes on the entry draft fascinating, because they are informed and non-traditional. WHY does he have Makar at No. 1? My system suggests Makar is in fact one of the 10 best prospects in the draft, but No. 1? And Heiskanen? Fantastic and fascinating. I’ll have to have him on in the coming days.

CAM TALBOT

This blog loves hockey and writes about the game twice a day, rain or shine. The blog’s author hopes for an exchange of thoughts and ideas in the comments section and tries to bring you interesting and thought provoking views. It is not necessarily an opinion blog, more a ‘share your opinion’ blog.

The great mystery for me, in hockey terms, is goaltending. It’s like the final frontier (outer space times the deep blue sea) and even after all of these years my analysis of goalies ranges from ‘what a save!’ to ‘why didn’t he make the save?’ and I doubt there is much progression to come.

I can say, without hesitation, that in 50+ years of watching the hockey, every great playoff run included a goalie doing exactly what Cam Talbot is doing currently for the Edmonton Oilers. That isn’t really analysis, but it is what I can bring to you. Cherish this experience, and credit Talbot with an enormous amount of this growing story. Goalies. Man.

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who

frjohnk: Cant fight a guy that is not willing to.Manson may have called him on but was skating away. Manson was clearly trying to draw a penalty. Ducks were up 3-0, why would he fight?If Lucic drops his gloves, Manson was skating backwards and the linesmen would have intervened before any fight.Then it would have been a penalty for the Oilers.

Man I can’t believe I am on the pro fight side of an argument. But I have played enough competitive hockey to know when you have to drop em. Let’s not pretend that we aren’t paying Lucic 6 mil a year to do this once in a while.
That contract was given to him because he’s the biggest, baddest SOB in the league. Once in a while he’s got to be that guy. I am grateful he’s not running around the ice cheap shotting everyone and trying to pick a fight every game, but like I said, there’s a time and a place.
I bet Chia was expecting him to fight in that situation.

godot10

The Ducks are playing two rookies on defense. Vatanen was in his first game back from injury. Fowler in his third. Lindholm has been banged up, and is probably playing hurt. Bieksa is out.

Manson is not going to fight and take himself off the ice for an extended period of time in that situation.

The Ducks are nasty, and have more than a full share of d^$#%bags, but they are not dumb.

frjohnk

who: I think you have to look at the big picture. At that point a comeback was unlikely and Manson is clearly calling him on so I doubt he gets the extra 2. Regardless I think a message needed to be sent there and if we are not going to use Lucic’s best skill in a situation like that then his signing was a huge mistake.

Cant fight a guy that is not willing to. Manson may have called him on but was skating away. Manson was clearly trying to draw a penalty. Ducks were up 3-0, why would he fight? If Lucic drops his gloves, Manson was skating backwards and the linesmen would have intervened before any fight. Then it would have been a penalty for the Oilers.

godot10

frjohnk:
Not surprised the daggers are coming out for EBERLE.I said it a few games ago, if the Nuge line does not score, some of the fans and media will be on them.EBERLE is the first guy as he is not as good as Nuge defensively or tough like Lucic.

Being good defensively or being tough probably buys those two 1 more game before the daggers are out for them.

Yes, they have had good shot shares and chances but that line has gotta score. 27 games between the 3 of them.0 even strength goals.

Eberle had the primary assist on the winning goal in game 2. The fans and the coach seem to have forgotten this. And it doesn’t fit Spector’s narrative where he wants to see all the original Austin’s get shipped out of town and blamed for the decade of darkness (instead of Lowe and MacT).

Eberle probably is not part of the core nor part of the McDavid cluster. So his days as an OIler are naturally numbered unless he is willing to re-sign with a big hometown discount. But there is no reason to run him out of town.

who

jp: I’d have liked to see them fight too, but what I saw was Manson backing away and staying out of reach. Imo trying to draw 2 and wouldn’t have dropped his gloves. Pretty sure Lucic wanted to go.

Frustrating, yes, but imo the right move at that point. The Oilers did come back to tie it after all.

Anyway, that’s all just my take.

I think you have to look at the big picture. At that point a comeback was unlikely and Manson is clearly calling him on so I doubt he gets the extra 2. Regardless I think a message needed to be sent there and if we are not going to use Lucic’s best skill in a situation like that then his signing was a huge mistake.

JD_Wry

Pescador: Define few

More than the number of Cup banners hanging in the Honda Center.

Scungilli Slushy

The next game will tell a lot. If they are quick studies and look to succeed on their assignments first and make the basic plays I think they will have a better chance to exploit the Ducks’ main areas of weakness – their young banged up D and older key players.

If they keep running around. leaving players and lanes open and being on the wrong side of players trying to force things and making low percentage attempts to get alone past players they’ll be trouble. They may still win this series because playoffs, but in the next two rounds i don’t like the chances.

Anaheim is playing in a way that the Oilers need to get pucks deep consistently (which they fail at too much) and be on the defensive side of the puck and jam up breakouts, keep the puck int the O zone as long as possible. Eventually scoring chances come from that and less attacks against. It also disrupts the Fowl’s flow and makes them work far harder.

I also see too many players mishandling pucks and losing possession. Many wingers are not getting pucks past the player into a good area a lot. My take is while they aren’t panicking they are forcing and rushing plays.

Here’s hoping to see simple plays executed and focusing on winning the play at hand and not thinking about what comes after it.

I’m not worried about Talbot, if the team takes a step forward I think he will be helped and can focus on his positional game where he gets hard to beat.

Pescador

JDI Хоккей:
I had a few beers last night.

Define few

frjohnk

Not surprised the daggers are coming out for EBERLE. I said it a few games ago, if the Nuge line does not score, some of the fans and media will be on them. EBERLE is the first guy as he is not as good as Nuge defensively or tough like Lucic.

Being good defensively or being tough probably buys those two 1 more game before the daggers are out for them.

Yes, they have had good shot shares and chances but that line has gotta score. 27 games between the 3 of them. 0 even strength goals.

Chachi

GMB3: Chachi is very right for a change. I might write about this in my diary

I’ve already had it engraved on a plaque.

Chris

Tough game that one. But Anahiem is a good team. It was rather unlikely they were going to get swept. Pride alone with probably get them a couple of wins.

Talbot after stealing a game the Oilers didn’t deserve to win likely contributed heavily to that lose. However, he’s had these bad starts during the regular season and shook it off fairly consistently so the need to worry is limited. If nothing else it should be a wake up call for all the players that they need to come back and have a strong game on Wednesday. We shouldn’t lose sight of the fact they still lead the series 2-1 with a chance to go up 3-1 at home on Wednesday.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Wow there is lots of handwringing and outright animosity (over at the Cult o Hockey) over last nights game which I don’t quite understand

A few points

1) The Hockey Gods got even! 4 of the 6 goals against are mistakes that I wouldn’t expect to see 99/100 times so you know what, watch the tape, learn and get on with it. No need to make a goat or to shit all over a guy. Last night mistakes ended up bulging the twine.

2) Maybe its just me but defensively I could strangle the top scorers on this team right now. Lots of very lazy plays and maybe one eye too focused on the other end of the ice but CmD, Leon and Looch need to be better in their own end.

3) Overall I really didn’t think this was that bad of a game. It was extremely frustrating to see every mistake in the back of the net so naturally I’m not happy but its important not to let a lot of good things slip away. I thought physically this was the Oilers best game of the series and the foot on throat from say the 15 minute mark in the 1st to the 5-3 goal in the 3rd was the best hockey the team has played since the overtime win in Series One.

4) The PP has guys standing around doing sweet nothing again. The Ducks are slowwwwwww on the PK, get your feet moving and you will open up lanes.

5) Last nights game was much more indicative of the Ducks style of play than game 2 IMO. The Flames took it on the chin in their series despite outplaying the Ducks for big chunks of all the games. Unfortunately for them Flames, they cracked under the pressure and could never hold off the Duck’s pushes but there is a window into beating them. The Oilers asserted themselves big time last night and it took a few highlight reel saves from Gibson and a few immeasurably frustrating passes from Oilers when they should have shot (Connor I don’t know what you were thinking on that 2-1 pass to Looch but I recommend not thinking it in the future).

6) Overall, not that worried at all, need to go full Duck here and let that game wash right down the backside. Hopefully, a few days off, back home in their own beds will allow a quick reset to shake away the cobwebs and get back at er!

Series is still 2-1!

frjohnk

jp: I’d have liked to see them fight too, but what I saw was Manson backing away and staying out of reach. Imo trying to draw 2 and wouldn’t have dropped his gloves. Pretty sure Lucic wanted to go.

Frustrating, yes, but imo the right move at that point. The Oilers did come back to tie it after all.

Anyway, that’s all just my take.

Yup. Lucic was pissed and Manson knew that and tried to draw the penalty. Also Manson backed up all the way around the net. Usually if a guy is willing to fight they dont back up

JD_Wry

I had a few beers last night.

jp

who: Maybe, and I am not a big supporter of fighting in hockey, but there is a time and a place and in my eyes that was the time.
Josh Manson has been finishing McDavid, and some of our other skill players, hard all series. We are down 3-0 and the life is sucked out of the building. He invites Lucic to go and even backs out of the scrum to give him room. What’s the worst thing that could happen there? Lucic gets two for instigating (which I doubt)?
The Oilers are in danger of getting physcially run out of this series. It doesn’t do any good to get bigger and meaner if your biggest and meanest guy refuses to engage.
If you think that Lucic was right to skate away, ask yourself why we are paying him 6 mil a year. Because it sure ain’t for his skating, stickhandling or shooting. If he won’t engage, or is being told not to engage, in that situation then the Oilers are wasting a pile of money on him.

I’d have liked to see them fight too, but what I saw was Manson backing away and staying out of reach. Imo trying to draw 2 and wouldn’t have dropped his gloves. Pretty sure Lucic wanted to go.

Frustrating, yes, but imo the right move at that point. The Oilers did come back to tie it after all.

Anyway, that’s all just my take.

jake70

who:
The Oilers are in danger of getting physcially run out of this series. It doesn’t do any good to get bigger and meaner if your biggest and meanest guy refuses to engage.

Maroon is engaging physically with the goalies 😉

GMB3

Chachi: Your “few” was a reference to years. You wrote that they won the cup a few years ago. 10 is more than a few.Let’s hope the Ogopogo gets the ducks in Kelowna.

Chachi is very right for a change. I might write about this in my diary

admiralmark

who: Maybe, and I am not a big supporter of fighting in hockey, but there is a time and a place and in my eyes that was the time.
Josh Manson has been finishing McDavid, and some of our other skill players, hard all series. We are down 3-0 and the life is sucked out of the building. He invites Lucic to go and even backs out of the scrum to give him room. What’s the worst thing that could happen there? Lucic gets two for instigating (which I doubt)?
The Oilers are in danger of getting physcially run out of this series. It doesn’t do any good to get bigger and meaner if your biggest and meanest guy refuses to engage.
If you think that Lucic was right to skate away, ask yourself why we are paying him 6 mil a year. Because it sure ain’t for his skating, stickhandling or shooting. If he won’t engage, or is being told not to engage, in that situation then the Oilers are wasting a pile of money on him.

Not saying your wrong but I saw it completely different. Manson had just slew footed Lucic and he knew it. He was acting like he was willing to fight but really just trying to goat Lucic into dropping his gloves and taking 2. I agree Manson needs to be held accountable but I would prefer Lucic lines him up for a big nasty legal hit. As it stood the Oilers did actually tie things up. So that is evidence enough that it wasn’t a good time to put the team down a man.

Side

Ice Sage:
Thanks to the Anaheim Ducks for popping the bubble – this Oiler team is not a Stanley Cup contender, despite the ridiculous talk of them being ‘favourites’ the past few days… (I can’t bet against them or there was some money to be made).
The Oilers may respond but I sense that they’re out of horseshoes.
It still beats the alternative!

What a bizarre post…
Are we watching the same games, here?

Zelepukin

Chachi: Your “few” was a reference to years. You wrote that they won the cup a few years ago. 10 is more than a few.Let’s hope the Ogopogo gets the ducks in Kelowna.

well if you consider how frequently it comes up now, the Oil almost won the cup a few years ago too.

Chachi

Lloyd B.: OK. It is only Perry and Getzlaf from the Ducks team that won the SC in 2007.

I stand corrected.

My few is two.Your few is more than two.

According to Miriam Webster

Definition of few
1.consisting of or amounting to only a small number one of our few pleasures
2.at least some but indeterminately small in number —used with a caught a few fish
fewness noun
few and far between
:few in number and infrequent

Look at me providing background info to make a point. FIRST time ever.

Who cares?The Oilers are up 2-1 with home ice advantage.WOOOT!!!

Your “few” was a reference to years. You wrote that they won the cup a few years ago. 10 is more than a few. Let’s hope the Ogopogo gets the ducks in Kelowna.

StixMalone

Ice Sage:
Thanks to the Anaheim Ducks for popping the bubble – this Oiler team is not a Stanley Cup contender, despite the ridiculous talk of them being ‘favourites’ the past few days… (I can’t bet against them or there was some money to be made).
The Oilers may respond but I sense that they’re out of horseshoes.
It still beats the alternative!

They only lost one game. Series isn’t over quite yet…….

who

jp: 99% sure he thought Manson was goading him, and 99% sure he was right – Manson wouldn’t have dropped the gloves there.

Maybe, and I am not a big supporter of fighting in hockey, but there is a time and a place and in my eyes that was the time.
Josh Manson has been finishing McDavid, and some of our other skill players, hard all series. We are down 3-0 and the life is sucked out of the building. He invites Lucic to go and even backs out of the scrum to give him room. What’s the worst thing that could happen there? Lucic gets two for instigating (which I doubt)?
The Oilers are in danger of getting physcially run out of this series. It doesn’t do any good to get bigger and meaner if your biggest and meanest guy refuses to engage.
If you think that Lucic was right to skate away, ask yourself why we are paying him 6 mil a year. Because it sure ain’t for his skating, stickhandling or shooting. If he won’t engage, or is being told not to engage, in that situation then the Oilers are wasting a pile of money on him.

admiralmark

If i’m TMac i’d be showing them the 1st period of Game 2 San Jose series. They were aggressive, physical, tenacious, quick short passes. San Jose was overwhelmed. I think they are at their best when they are in attack mode. Not this passive aggressive chess match thing they’ve had going on lately. I think the physical starts gets every player involved and sharp early. And although we’ve seen short moments of this. Nothing like that game 2. I don’t know why they went away from that game plan when it was clearly so effective. Just one fans opinion.

Lloyd B.

Chachi: I have never seen 10 years described as “a few”. This Anaheim team hasn’t won a damn thing.

OK. It is only Perry and Getzlaf from the Ducks team that won the SC in 2007.

I stand corrected.

My few is two. Your few is more than two.

According to Miriam Webster

Definition of few
1. consisting of or amounting to only a small number one of our few pleasures
2. at least some but indeterminately small in number —used with a caught a few fish
fewness noun
few and far between
: few in number and infrequent

Look at me providing background info to make a point. FIRST time ever.

Who cares? The Oilers are up 2-1 with home ice advantage. WOOOT!!!

Diablo

So Perry played all of 12 minutes tonight – couldn’t even get garbage minutes in a blowout win. At this rate he might waive his NMC to get away from Carlyle.

Chachi

Lloyd B.:
They won the SC a few years ago. Granted not many guys left but more than enough to carry the message.

I have never seen 10 years described as “a few”. This Anaheim team hasn’t won a damn thing.

McSorley33

Shhhh……nobody wake up Sekera.

Let him sleep.

He will be well rested for game 4

oilfan17

Just think it should be mentioned that Drai leads the team in points in these playoffs, despite his slow start due to flu: He is tied at 7th overall in the league with 8 points, and he is +8.

And 52% on the dot, including the face-off win that led to Maroon’s goal tonight.

Ice Sage

Thanks to the Anaheim Ducks for popping the bubble – this Oiler team is not a Stanley Cup contender, despite the ridiculous talk of them being ‘favourites’ the past few days… (I can’t bet against them or there was some money to be made).
The Oilers may respond but I sense that they’re out of horseshoes.
It still beats the alternative!

spoiler

Woodguy v2.0: 13th comment in the thread.

https://lowetide.ca/2017/04/30/2017-playoffs-g9-g3-ducks-at-oilers/comment-page-1/#comment-641281

Maybe because it was 13th?

Good point! Maybe… I’m thinking no follow-through… you usually have a couple near game time, too.

Lloyd B.

flea:
Interesting to see how the Kelowna break affects the Ducks. I get it – they couldn’t go anywhere in Edmonton and would have to keep an extremely low profile. But will it affect their focus, their intensity? Drinks at one of the players houses, maybe a wine tour or a round of golf?

I hope the Oilers take the break to analyze tape, practice & refine their systems and keep the intensity up. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Ducks come out flat on Wednesday.

Not a chance the Ducks come out flat. A couple of reasons.

They won the SC a few years ago. Granted not many guys left but more than enough to carry the message.

The mental break could be huge. Not at home. Get away from all the Orange Crush in Edmonton.

Have a golf game, go bowling, practice a few times where the fans are happy for a chance encounter to see, or maybe even talk to an NHL player. Won the last game. Zero pressure.

Generally a great relaxing atmosphere. For a team with lots of playoff experience.

Not like the home team which has to deal with the “orange crush”. Pressure every where they go, every thing they do, and every thing they read. And two days off to increase that pressure.

With limited playoff experience. Could be a recipe for disaster.

Having said that…

The Oilers are up 2-1. They are a growth team.

They have gained 23 more games of collective playoff experience and learned another lesson or two tonight.

WOOOOOOT!!

Scungilli Slushy

Jethro Tull:
Zelepukin,

No apology needed. I agree, but the Oilers have rarely strung together two bad performances all season long. We’ll be reet.

According to their coach they just have. Their team play needs to be much more solid. To rely on deflections and bounces and the odd high skill play usually doesn’t win in the end, things will get even tighter every game.

Scungilli Slushy

StixMalone:
The whole so called second line has been uneventful (scoring) in the playoffs. All grabbing their sticks tight for sure. Not sure what the remedy is. They better figure it out. We will need them next couple games to break through….

The only player on the second line playing well is Nuge, even if snake bit. Lucic has his Lucicness which means even when he’s bad he is a presence. But he is coughing up a lot of pucks and not managing the puck well. Eberle is losing battles as always – the difference being he is actually trying to win them now – and is not putting the puck in good places, he is a non-factor. It takes a heck of a lot more than maybe potting a goal or something because skill and being carried through games at a time, he is a complete passenger at this point.

MacLellan referenced being on the wrong side of the puck. They are learning patience and the value of making the right play instead of trying to break the game constantly. Prime example Kassian cheating a blue line battle trying to chip it for a break. It has burnt him already, tries it again. Not smrt. Another is that Connor has his eyes up ice too much and keeps missing defensive plays that end up in the net. He’ll get better, but even he has miles to grow.

They have to get to playing the basics of NHL hockey well, making the right mostly safe play so as to not be under constant attack and to limit rushes and chances against. The good chances for the Oilers will present themselves, they need to stop forcing things and presenting them to the Fowl.

Talbot has been good for the Oilers because he is a mostly stable, NHL consistent goalie. But goalies get too much credit at times and too much criticism at others, from players and fans. The reason he was older to get his own net is what we saw tonight. He has the tools but lacks top level consistency.

It’s fine that he isn’t the best goalie in the league, the Oilers can win with him, but he is up and down and the team NEEDS to give him stable ice for him to be at his best game in and out.

A loss tonight was to be expected, it’s too bad they didn’t play better. They aren’t as mature as Connor keeps saying they are, which the coach keeps telling them at least in the pressers. They are playing like a rookie team, which they mostly are. It’s a shame the vets are largely playing poorly at the basics they should be able to do and showing to the younger guys.

I am so happy to see Oiler playoff hockay again, this is all gravy and proceeding better than could be reasonably expected, as much as I pine for the Total Oiler Domination of old. Hopefully they get some basics down in the extra day off and have a better game next.

--hudson--

Zelepukin: Which is ebsolutely true. This past season and maybe even half of last year, you can see how the game has changed enough where Ebs can’t just get by on the single strength of having decent hands within a couple meters of the net.

Ebspecially not in the playoffs.

I noticed towards the end of the season Ebs was coming down low on the breakout and providing a moving target. He sure seemed more effective on the offensive side at the time. Now he seems to be posting up higher and is stationary by the time he gains possession.

It could be my confirmation bias but it’s what I observed in the last few games.

jp

who:

Another thing that troubles me was the play of Lucic. He got slew footed by Manson and then got involved with him after the whistle. Manson clearly challenged him. We are down 2 or 3 to nothing and we are paying this guy 6 mil a year for the next 6 years. I am pretty sure all that coin is not for his puck skills. I can’t think of a better time to engage against the Ducks most physical ,and perhaps their best, dman.
Was he scared of taking an instigator penalty or was he scared of losing the fight?I thought these were the moments we were paying him for.

99% sure he thought Manson was goading him, and 99% sure he was right – Manson wouldn’t have dropped the gloves there.

Woodguy v2.0

spoiler:
Woodguy v2.0,

I feel like your lack of pre-game routine cost us the win, sir.

No GOILERS!. No woots. Nothing, just stats posts.

Get your nose out of the numbers!! This is serious business.We’re in the playoffs!

13th comment in the thread.

https://lowetide.ca/2017/04/30/2017-playoffs-g9-g3-ducks-at-oilers/comment-page-1/#comment-641281

Maybe because it was 13th?

spoiler

Woodguy v2.0,

I feel like your lack of pre-game routine cost us the win, sir.

No GOILERS!. No woots. Nothing, just stats posts.

Get your nose out of the numbers!! This is serious business. We’re in the playoffs!

Jethro Tull

Zelepukin,

No apology needed. I agree, but the Oilers have rarely strung together two bad performances all season long. We’ll be reet.

flea

Interesting to see how the Kelowna break affects the Ducks. I get it – they couldn’t go anywhere in Edmonton and would have to keep an extremely low profile. But will it affect their focus, their intensity? Drinks at one of the players houses, maybe a wine tour or a round of golf?

I hope the Oilers take the break to analyze tape, practice & refine their systems and keep the intensity up. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the Ducks come out flat on Wednesday.

Woodguy v2.0

delooper: That’s largely how main-stream media works.If you don’t talk about the sensational new bits and pieces that are impossible to make sense of in isolation, you’re reduced to talking about the big picture that’s already largely established.. . or you could talk about things that require an enormous amount of resources, but then the media would have to be making larger profits than it currently does, to fund such research.

Pretty much agree with all of that.

My issue is the same guys have been proven wrong time and again and every year they double down on the same damn things.

Its like goldfish writing about hockey.

Hey look no one scores when he’s on the ice, he’s causing it!

Hey look a castle!

Hey look at his shooting percentage, he’s figured it out

Hey look a castle!

spoiler

Diablo: Did TMac call him out?

Someone, couldn’t tell whom, asked a direct question about Eb’s contribution.

TMac replied with a very direct, strong, “Not enough”. Some other reporter jumped in with a “what about his defensive contributions, is that affecting his scoring?”

TMac duly walked his call-out back a bit, acknowledging Eb’s work along the walls, in battles, but that he needs to see some offensive contribution, and added an explanation that most of these guys are noobs and learning, but have to be better.

Zelepukin

Jon K: Asked about Eberle’s contributions and McLellan’s initial response was a terse “not enough”. He would go on to clarify that this is all new for Eberle and he is learning. He made reference to Eberle’s physical battles and checking in a positive manner, but said he needed more contributions from him on the power play. He then further noted he needed more from the whole group

Which is ebsolutely true. This past season and maybe even half of last year, you can see how the game has changed enough where Ebs can’t just get by on the single strength of having decent hands within a couple meters of the net.

Ebspecially not in the playoffs.

Lloyd B.

jp: Lloyd B.,

Is that actually a rule? I can’t think of a reason that trading a player back wouldn’t be allowed…

There are guys here that are way more well versed on the expansion rules than me.

I’m going to need the “answer monkeys” to set me straight. 🙂

I mean that with with the greatest respect. Without them I’m no good during the coffee klatch at the local greasy spoon.

Pretty sure they can’t buy out an expansion pick but haven’t heard anything about the “trade back” scenario I put forward.

Jon K

Diablo: Did TMac call him out?

Asked about Eberle’s contributions and McLellan’s initial response was a terse “not enough”. He would go on to clarify that this is all new for Eberle and he is learning. He made reference to Eberle’s physical battles and checking in a positive manner, but said he needed more contributions from him on the power play. He then further noted he needed more from the whole group

StixMalone

The whole so called second line has been uneventful (scoring) in the playoffs. All grabbing their sticks tight for sure. Not sure what the remedy is. They better figure it out. We will need them next couple games to break through….

Lloyd B.

spoiler:
Ooohhthat’s a heckuva shot at Ebs.

No it’s not. It’s true.

Diablo

spoiler:
Ooohhthat’s a heckuva shot at Ebs.

Did TMac call him out?

Zelepukin

Jethro Tull: What would you like them to say? “Yah, we shit the bed pretty bad, but Darryl’s cheque cleared, so who’s for beers, am i right!” or “The shame this brings us leaves us no option to ritually execute the player with the lowest corsi for the greater good. The greater good.”

TMac is a straight shooter, but he also isn’t as gregarious as former coaches and GMs.This is a good thing.

Sorry, I meant more from the perspective of, we need to stop creating the situation where this is what we have to resort to saying. Basically we need to stop having games where we forgot how to do the hockey.

Jethro Tull

Zelepukin:
Keeping it positive, another massive learning experience for this very young playoff group. Yet at some point they’ll need stop giving these post game comments of, ‘we park it, move on and get ready for the next game.’

What would you like them to say? “Yah, we shit the bed pretty bad, but Darryl’s cheque cleared, so who’s for beers, am i right!” or “The shame this brings us leaves us no option to ritually execute the player with the lowest corsi for the greater good. The greater good.”

TMac is a straight shooter, but he also isn’t as gregarious as former coaches and GMs. This is a good thing.