THE MARKET SPEAKS

by Lowetide

Back in the spring of 1976, the New York Rangers moved Emile Francis out of the general manager’s job and replaced him with John Ferguson. In modern terms, this is about equal to firing David Poile and replacing him with Jeremy Roenick. The move was an upgrade in terms of fame but the nuts and bolts of getting the job done are about a lot of tedious chores.

  • Ken McKenzie, The Hockey News April 1976: John Ferguson, the new general manager-coach, is far from pleased with the players he inherited from (Emile) Francis and he makes no bones about saying so. In fact, there is no love lost between Francis and Ferguson. Walt Tkaczuk is said to be almost certain to leave New York. Bill Fairbairn and Gilles Marotte are the other members of the Rangers who might move before next season rolls around.

John Ferguson didn’t like a lot about the Rangers, and he was damn sure going to fix the problem in a quick damn hurry. In May 1976, a month after the quote above, Ferguson sent young winger Rick Middleton to the Boston Bruins for famous (and aging) winger Kenny Hodge. Hodge, 31, scored 25 goals and 61 points in 1975-76, and was familiar with Phil Esposito (recently acquired by the Rangers). Middleton, 22, scored 24 goals and 50 points, while making the errors of youth. Ferguson couldn’t put up with the problem any longer, and shipped out Middleton. Hodge would have one productive season in NYC, played fewer than 20 games the following year, and be out of organized hockey by 1980. Middleton? In 1980-81, he scored 103 points, retired in 1987-88 and scored over 400 goals as a Bruin. Why did Ferguson trade Middleton, instead of Tkaczuk, Marotte or Billy Fairbairn? The market spoke and the market did not want John Ferguson’s fading role players. So, rookie general manager he was, Ferguson sent away a borderline hall of famer for a spent force. Le holy.

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I love the entire hockey calendar, but the period leading up to draft and free agency is perhaps my favorite. Maybe it has to do with hope and reparation, or maybe it’s about the weather. For the third year in a row Peter Chiarelli has a list of things to do, although the work is far less than in previous summers.

My prelude today serves as a backdrop to something I’ve been thinking about for the last 24 hours or so. Most Oilers fans are in favor of trading Jordan Eberle for a load of hay, today, but I’m thinking that is unwise. Without a proven RW (aside from Leon Draisaitl) Edmonton could enter training camp with a less than ideal depth chart. The big item is this: You have to give to get. Offering Walt Tkazcuk, Billy Fairbairn and Gilles Marotte didn’t get John Ferguson far, maybe Peter Chiarelli doesn’t get an attractive offer for Eberle. As was the case last season, we may see a more valuable player exit because the market speaks.

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PETER CHIARELLI’S SUMMER 2017 LIST

  1. Get Connor McDavid signed to a long-term contract. ($10-13 million times 8?)
  2. Get Leon Draisaitl signed to a long-term contract. ($7-9 million times 8?)
  3. Negotiate the expansion draft rapids without giving up a valuable piece of the future. (Griffin Reinhart, Jujhar Khaira, Mark Letestu)
  4. Find a way to trade Benoit Pouliot off the roster. (trade with LV or buyout)
  5. Find a second pairing D with two-way acumen. (Hamonic, Franson, Kris Russell)
  6. Find a bottom 6F who can help the offense. (Cizikas, Sutter)
  7. Find a way to cover off buried contracts. (Fayne)
  8. Make enough cap room to get everyone in under the number with enough room to spare for the trade deadline.

This is a list I published earlier in the week. Several items have come to the fore since then and I wanted to update (and will tweak at the end, no peeking you). Let’s get to it.

  1. Get Connor McDavid signed to a long-term contract. The range for McDavid seems to be all over the place, with the most popular total being eight years and $97 million. That works out to $12.125 million per year, and would mean the 97+29=close to $20 million beginning in 2017-18. That’s a lot of money, but if you expect $9.7 million a year for CMD, I’m going to suggest 97 is leaving about $20 million on the table. Seems crazy to me. Further reading can be done here, as Pierre Lebrun (in November) talked about a possible lockout impacting the length of the deal (source). Perhaps the deal is for four years.
  2. Get Leon Draisaitl signed to a long-term contract. We seem to be getting some interesting guesses now, outer marker being Vladimir Tarasenko and his $7.5 times eight years ($60 million total). I am still hoping something around $7M per year gets it done.
  3. Negotiate the expansion draft rapids without giving up a valuable piece of the future. I generally believe the Oilers are not exposed too much in this expansion draft, but do confess to worrying a little about losing Jujhar Khaira. Most of the time valuing a mid-level prospect highly is a mistake, but I think Khaira is a plug-and-play for 4L and way less expensive (<$1M) than Matt Hendricks. May not be able to PK for a couple of years, but I like his skill set.
  4. Find a way to trade Benoit Pouliot off the roster. I have been trying to figure a way to shoehorn Nuge, Eberle and Russell onto next year’s roster, and Pouliot is a key player here. They could do it by sending down  Puljujarvi until his cap bonuses burn off, and trading Benoit Pouliot. If they bought out Pouliot, sent Mark Fayne down it might work (JP’s bonus might trip them up).
  5. Find a second pairing D with two-way acumen. It comes down to Russell if the organization likes him and I think they do. I’ll have a 23-man roster at the bottom and Russell at $4M could work in a tight fit. If that doesn’t get it done, I think the anson is Franson.
  6. Find a bottom 6F who can help the offense. I listed Casey Cizikas last time, people asked how the Oilers could get him. Jordan Eberle? The one player who might be available via free agency, who could help the offense, is Sam Gagner. Price point would be the issue and the Jackets used him as 4F and PP1. That’s the Letestu role. What about Ryan Strome?
  7. Find a way to cover off buried contracts. I don’t know that it will be possible. I’m also uncertain about the reported overage from last season due to bonuses.
  8. Make enough cap room to get everyone in under the number with enough room to spare for the trade deadline. This will be the greatest challenge for Peter Chiarelli this summer. Seriously.

PROJECTING THE SUMMER

Allow me to project some of Edmonton’s summer, and then post the roster that could come out of it.

  • Oilers lose Benoit Pouliot in the expansion draft to the LV Golden Knights. Edmonton sends Caleb Jones to the Golden Knights as a sweetener after the draft.
  • Oilers sign Cody Franson to a one-year, $3.5 million contract.
  • Oilers sign Jordan Oesterle to a value contract (one-way deal).
  • Oilers bury Mark Fayne’s contract.

PROJECTED 2017-18 ROSTER

  • This is not my ideal roster, this is a roster put together in order to prove the Oilers can keep Nuge and Eberle while addressing RHD and needs at forward.
  • Cody Franson has been mentioned many times on this blog and elsewhere. Although he isn’t everyone’s ideal, his underlying numbers are good and he can help the Oilers in areas of need. Kris Russell is also an option, but I don’t think he will stay in Edmonton’s cap model.
  • I have listed eligible players with all of their bonuses (McDavid, Puljujarvi, Nurse, Caggiula), so Peter Chiarelli could get more room by (as a for instance) sending down Puljujarvi until the bonus worry on his contract has subsided.

This is not what I would do. I’ll have that for you at 5pm today. That said, I do think there are elements in this roster that probably make sense for Peter Chiarelli. One thing I wrote here that I do not believe will happen: Franson. I think PC is probably trying to figure a way to get Kris Russell on this roster and make room for it by moving a bigger contract than Pouliot. One thing to remember: Oilers will need room at the deadline for added firepower. This is a season when Chiarelli will load up if Edmonton is in position. More at 5.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning, lots of chat and that of course includes the Oilers. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. Oilers run falls short but what a year!
  • Trevor Wear, Halfway to Halloween Mayhem. The man who took an iconic photo of Leon Draisaitl drops in to talk about how you can help the Stollery and have a blast.
  • Jared Book, Habs Eyes on the Prize and Bluebird Banter. How do Habs fans feel about Subban? Are the Jays for real? (no).
  • Paul Almeida, SSE. Did the Oilers earn enough respect to get more calls next spring?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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HiddenDarts

Great post, LT. Completely with you on the “be patient”-move with Eberle.

This was a good, edging on great player – once. Unless the return is incredible, let’s look at the fact that none of our RWs has ever scored 20. Eberle, meanwhile, can score 20; 30 if he’s on fire.

Either way, he’s gotta know his game has to change. This is his chance for rebirth. Will he take it?

Cahoon

Great post as always here LT. I have a feeling McDavid takes a discount so the team isn’t hamstrung by it.

Now that we are out of the playoffs, how long until Spencer Foo signs? 😀

DBO

Gotta say over the last decade of darkness I have always enjoyed these posts. And this year it being delayed by a month make sit that much sweeter.

I think Griffin has to clear waivers this coming season, so no way he isn’t on the roster. If I am wrong, then great.

I hate to say it, and have been saying it for more then a month, but just like losing Hall when we wanted it to be Ebs, I expect we lose Nuge. And Faulk from Carolina seems to be the type of player I could live with (though not love). Nuge has the 50 pt two way centre, mentor kids makeup we will need, especially if we are breaking in young cheap players.

The real issue in next summer. So I would hope that Chia makes a real run at the cup next season. McDavid’s value deal means 2017-18 is our first real cup run. Spend to the cap. add vets, not kids. Make deadline deals that move youth to fill holes. Deal with the money and the consequences next summer. It is so hard to make real runs, and in a cap world next year may be our best window at the Cup.

Woogie63

At the end of the expansion draft, McPhee is going to wonder where the goals and entertainment is going to come from. He is going to have 30 assets to reset his team. I am sure that McPhee is going to be calling teams with with a proven goal score that might be out of favour to look for a trade.

McPhee might have a Jack Johnson, Petrovic (Pysyk), Johns and a Grabner to make a trade to get an Eberle.

dustrock

I agree that this playoff run has made me question what I’d do this summer as Chiarelli.

1 goal away from the Conference Finals with a less than perfect roster.

You only have the McDavid ELC for one more year. Is it possible to add a decent RHD, AND still keep Eberle and RNH?

Do you trade Nurse this offseason because you’ll always have McDavid, but you’ll never again have McDavid for $1million?

dustrock

Regarding expansion, I’d rather be losing someone like Khaira than, say, the Islanders. It looks to me like they are going to have a tough decision to make.

Is De Haan going to be exposed? Bailey?

Jaxon

Exciting times.

I’m not an Eberle or Pouliot hater (quite the opposite), but I think the writing is on the wall. I think they’ll keep Nuge. Would this trade scenario be possible?

The speedy, feisty, Edmonton-born RW, Brendan Gallgher, would be a great fit in Edmonton. He had the 2nd highest shots/60 for wingers in the NHL last season at 12.05. Gallagher had a bit of an off season just like Eberle. They’re not going to get much for Eberle after this season, but he is a better scorer than Gallagher. I would suggest Eberle (2 x $6M) + Pouliot (2 x $4M), which is 2 more years at $10M going out for Plekanec (1 x $6M) + Gallagher (4 x $3.75M), which is $9.75M coming in for 1 year and then 3.75 for 3 more years. So the money works out short term and is a great deal for Edmonton moving forward as long as Gallagher bounces back. Plus it gives Edmonton a decent option (Plekanec) for 3C for next season. I’d maybe throw in a Reinhart and a 3rd round pick for a Dalton Thrower and a 5th round pick coming back.

Eberle (6.000Mx2) – – – – – – – Gallagher (3.750Mx4)
Pouliot (4.000Mx2) – – – – – – Plekanec (6.000Mx1)
Reinhart (0.863Mx0)RFA – Thrower (0.646Mx0)RFA
3rd Round in 2017 – – – – – – 5th Round in 2017
CAP 10.863M out – – – – – – – CAP 10.396M in

Then Plekanec’s salary comes off the books just in time for McDavid’s big contract.

Thoughts?

godot10

Cody Franson is a significant step down from Russell. But 1-year for Franson is much less risk than 4 x $4 million for Russell. Matt Benning would be 2nd pairing by the end of training camp.

Franson, like Fayne, is too slow for McLellan’s systems, so I don’t think that he will be the guy either.

BlueNoteNorth

Playoff observations and subsequent Chiarelli action items:
1. Draisaitl needs to centre a line. Who is his 1RW replacement?
2. McDavid needs more elite wingers than Maroon and Caggiula. Are they available in-house or do they need to be acquired?
3. Five D are set – Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera, Benning, Nurse. Who are the other two?
4. Improvement in face-offs is needed. Is Draisaitl at 2C enough or is a new 3C also needed?
5. Where does Nugent-Hopkins play? 3C? 2RW? Another team?
6. What to do with playoff under performers – Eberle, Pouliot

Jaxon

Here’s my roster/depth chart with that trade:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/297583

Sign Foo and Franson, draft one of right shot LW Popugayev (most likely available at 22), RHD Conor Timmins (possibly available at 22), or left shot RW Vesalainen (most likely gone at 22). Also draft RHD Johnny Kovachevic in the later rounds.

godot10

Cahoon:
Great post as always here LT. I have a feeling McDavid takes a discount so the team isn’t hamstrung by it.

$12.5 million IS a discount! -).

Material Elvis

Great post LT!

Was your story intended to parallel the Oilers current roster predicament with John Ferguson’s? is Jordan Eberle the Rick Middleton of that story? I understand what you are saying but circumstances are much different today because of the salary cap. And Chiarelli is not a rookie GM. I would be shocked to see Eberle back in the fall. Rightly or wrongly, he played himself off the team during the playoff run. When you consider his play along with future cap constraints, Eberle is a prime candidate to be traded. I would much rather the Oilers keep RNH.

godot10

BlueNoteNorth:
Playoff observations and subsequent Chiarelli action items:
1. Draisaitl needs to centre a line. Who is his 1RW replacement?
2. McDavid needs more elite wingers than Maroon and Caggiula. Are they available in-house or do they need to be acquired?
3. Five D are set – Klefbom, Larsson, Sekera, Benning, Nurse. Who are the other two?
4. Improvement in face-offs is needed. Is Draisaitl at 2C enough or is a new 3C also needed?
5. Where does Nugent-Hopkins play? 3C? 2RW? Another team?
6. What to do with playoff under performers – Eberle, Pouliot

McDavid is never going to have elite wingers on a team that is also paying Draisaitl, and has “married” Milan Lucic. One more expensive forward only. Lucic will have to do for Draisaitl, and one other expensive guy for McDavid (eventually Puljujarvi probably). The other wingers for McDavid and Draisaitl have to be “Sheary’s”.

Ducey

Chia likely has to trade Eberle next summer, not this summer due to McDavid’s pending contract.

He went 82 20 31 51. That was 21st in points among RW. That’s a first line RW.

Eberle was third among full time forwards on the Oilers in CF% at 51.8%. So the puck was going the right way.

Among full time Oilers players:

He was 4th in even strength points and 5 x 5 points/60.
He was second on the team in 5 x 5 shots/60
He was third on the team in 5 x 5 shots (and a career high)

The problem was his shooting percentage. While Maroon led the team in shooting percentage at 16.90 %, Eberle had a career low 8.97%. His previous seasons he was generally around 11.5 to 13%.(Career 13.4%)

If his shots had dropped, you could have a concern, but I think a bounceback is likely.

If he had a shooting % of 12% next year, he would be 82 25 31 56

godot10

Jaxon:
Here’s my roster/depth chart with that trade:

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/297583

Sign Foo and Franson, draft one of left shot RW Popugayev (most likely available at 22), RHD Conor Timmins (possibly available at 22), or right shot LW Vesalainen (most likely gone at 22). Also draft RHD Johnny Kovachevic in the later rounds.

Draft centres and defensemen. Not wingers.

Material Elvis

Some of the numbers being thrown out there for CMD’s next contract are a bit far-fetched. He still has four RFA years so that should provide some financial buffer. Also, look at the comparables: Crosby, Malkin, Kane are nowhere close to $12.5+M and they signed for mostly UFA years. Let’s not get crazy here.

BlueNoteNorth

godot10,

Agree. My point was “more elite than …” which still sets the bar fairly low.

StixMalone

godot10: Draft centres and defensemen.Not wingers.

Make sure they all shoot right…

LMHF#1

LT – when you do your ideal roster – it’s going to be in the context of winning a Stanley Cup, right?

It should be. The idea of sitting back for another year – not attempting completeness and balance etc – would be a big mistake and there’s no good reason for it.

anjinsan

LT, I luv ya, but ya’ll is not a shrewd business man.

jake70

LT, what do you think of trying to bring Hemsky back for a 2nd tour of duty on right at a decent price? Will be 34 in August. Just finished his 3 year deal in Dallas, 4M per year. And he shoots Right. Or has that ship sailed?

From online site Blackout Dallas (Tom Dorsa writer):

***Ales Hemsky can’t generate shooting chances as well as Sharp can, but as far as bottom-six finishers go, he’s one of the best in the NHL. Despite playing just 15 games this year, the Czech forward scored three goals and four assists, good for a 0.46 points per game rating. At that pace, Hemsky would have tallied 21 goals and 16 assists oved 82 games…………Hemsky is a tad younger (than Sharp who the article also talks about), but given his past injury timeline, the Dallas Stars might be the only team to give him a shot. He could, and if all falls into play well, be signed to a Jiri Hudler-esque one-year, $2-million contract.***

Oilin4

I like Kris Russell, but you can’t acquire Larsson at a large cost in part because “the lefty righty thing on defense is a thing” (Chiarelli quote) and then make an aging Lefty your longterm solution at 2RD. To be clear, I like Larsson and agree with the trade. My point is doing both these things is hypocrisy and poor logic.

If only Ethan Bear were two years further along.

Yeti

Ducey: The problem was his shooting percentage. While Maroon led the team in shooting percentage at 16.90 %, Eberle had a career low 8.97%. His previous seasons he was generally around 11.5 to 13%.(Career 13.4%)
If his shots had dropped, you could have a concern, but I think a bounceback is likely.

This is the crux of the issue: did Eberle have simply a bad year (luck) or has something changed in his game (speed? legacy of injury) that is directly affecting those underlying numbers? If the former, then holding on to him is the right thing to do. Hell, play him on the top line. But if it’s the latter, it might be best to trade him now before his new normal is established.

Durag

jake70,

I don’t think Hemsky is interested in playing for a team where he can’t wear #83.

Oilin4

Ducey:
Chia likely has to trade Eberle next summer, not this summer due to McDavid’s pending contract.

He went 82 20 31 51. That was 21st in points among RW. That’s a first line RW.

Eberle was third among full time forwards on the Oilers in CF% at 51.8%. So the puck was going the right way.

Among full time Oilers players:

He was 4th in even strength points and 5 x 5 points/60.
He was second on the team in 5 x 5 shots/60
He was third on the team in 5 x 5 shots (and a career high)

The problem was his shooting percentage. While Maroon led the team in shooting percentage at 16.90 %, Eberle had a career low 8.97%. His previous seasons he was generally around 11.5 to 13%.(Career 13.4%)

If his shots had dropped, you could have a concern, but I think a bounceback is likely.

If he had a shooting % of 12% next year, he would be 82 25 31 56

Also his primary linemates had abyssmal shooting %, so his assists likely go up too. Likely 25 38 63 (ish) going by historical averages. This is after he got demoted to 2nd PP unit too. Those are great numbers.

Don’t sell low. Shop Eberle. If you get a return (solid 2RHD), trade him. Otherwise, hang on. You won’t replace him.

Professor Q

pocession charge:
Some of the numbers being thrown out there for CMD’s next contract are a bit far-fetched.He still has four RFA years so that should provide some financial buffer.Also, look at the comparables:Crosby, Malkin, Kane are nowhere close to $12.5+M and they signed for mostly UFA years.Let’s not get crazy here.

Well, Kane and Toews are close at $10.5 AAV (and the highest). But hopefully McDavid realises how that’s cap-strapped Chicago and goes for $9.7 AAV?

Professor Q

Durag:
jake70,

I don’t think Hemsky is interested in playing for a team where he can’t wear #83.

I’m sure the sophomore would make way for the Classic Oilers veteran returning.

slopitch

Pass on Franson. Here’s what I’d do.

1) Eberle + Reinhart for Duchene – Colorado is crazy and needs dmen. We might lose Reinhart to LV. Oilers need a C who can win faceoffs. Duchene with Nuge sounds fun. Gives them 4C and lets Drai play with 97 from time to time.
2) Buy out Fayne – need the cap space.
3) Resign Russell for 2 years – he allows us to build a d solution internally.
4) Trade Pouliut for anything – need the cap space. Benson to LV if they take Pouliot?
5) Sign a vet who wants to win a cup on a 1 year deal (not Iggy, he’s too slow).
6) Use the 2017 on bpa.
7) Save the 2018 1st for buying at the deadline.

Not something Id do because I dont know how to make it work under the cap, but I think Chairelli is gonna target either Brian Boyle or Martin Hanzal. The Oilers were not able to close out leads vs ANA and could use some additions to help there.

jtblack

I can’t wait for the 5 O’clock roster … The only way Pouliot and / or Eberle are still Oilers by mid summer if there is absolutely NO market for them. There has to be a market for Eberle; I like the idea the one person had, maybe a Vegas trade after both drafts are complete?

Ryan Strome would be great 3C … Right handed, young, good cap number now and future should be good ….

I think when fans evaluate a player, they almost always go for the optimistic side … Eberle has value. But he also has numbers (5×5 scoring, box cars, etc) that are all trending the wrong way. The same was true for yakupov. Same is true for RNH and Pouliot. All players have up and down years, but after a player has 2, 3 or 4 years trending down, is it realistic to HOPE for a return to glory. The League has many more Cody Hodgson’s & Jonathon Cheechoo’s than it does Marian Hossa’s …

Lucic had a poor year 5×5. This is concerning but at this point it is 1 year. Now if it happens next year, that will be very concerning. Ebs, RNH & Pouliot have already been on the year over year decline for 2 – 4 years. They still have value but I think it’s unreasonable to assume RNH will be a 60 point, 2 way center. or Eberle will consistently score 30 Goals going forward.

I think Moving on from players trending down is fine by me. I know it’s not the preference to sell “Low” but it’s better than keeping complete dead weight and then selling for nothing or buying out.

JD_Wry

Lowetide Retweeted
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Ben Bishop contract details: $7 M, $6.5 M, $5.5 M, $3.5 M, $3.5 M, $3.5 M; and NMC throughout, modified NTC last 3 years

Bishop to cheque.

leadfarmer

slopitch:
Pass on Franson. Here’s what I’d do.

1) Eberle + Reinhart for Duchene – Colorado is crazy and needs dmen. We might lose Reinhart to LV. Oilers need a C who can win faceoffs. Duchene with Nuge sounds fun. Gives them 4C and lets Drai play with 97 from time to time.
2) Buy out Fayne – need the cap space.
3) Resign Russell for 2 years – he allows us to build a d solution internally.
4) Trade Pouliut for anything – need the cap space. Benson to LV if they take Pouliot?
5) Sign a vet who wants to win a cup on a 1 year deal (not Iggy, he’s too slow).
6) Use the 2017 on bpa.
7) Save the 2018 1st for buying at the deadline.

Not something Id do because I dont know how to make it work under the cap, but I think Chairelli is gonna target either Brian Boyle or Martin Hanzal. The Oilers were not able to close out leads vs ANA and could use some additions to help there.

Make sure you have a big pile of incriminating photos of Sakic before you attempt the first.

JD_Wry

leadfarmer: Make sure you have a big pile of incriminating photos of Sakic before you attempt the first.

Compelt like the wind!

judgedrude

LT, for the 5pm post, are there different levels between what you would do to the roster compared to what PC could do so that Lowetidians could see the famed balance photo. Or are they one in the same?

leadfarmer

JDI:
Lowetide Retweeted
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Ben Bishop contract details: $7 M, $6.5 M, $5.5 M, $3.5 M, $3.5 M, $3.5 M; and NMC throughout, modified NTC last 3 years

Bishop to cheque.

Hope he can play defense.

JD_Wry

leadfarmer: Hope he can play defense.

Chances of this working out for Dallas: Nill.

Kinger_Oil.redux

jtblack,

– Great post LT!

– I too am looking forward to his 5:00: these moves too timid. Chia will do more work than this

– Russell: what’s good about him is that next year team can be:
1) Sek-Russ (for the toughs)
2) Nurse – Russ (when the take training wheels off Benning, and give him-top4 chances)
3) Russ-Benning (when they take training wheels off Nurse, and give him top-4 chances)

– So unless Chia can get a plug and play for Sek, this is a reasonable way to stat the season on D, IMO. Not many D who could/would play this role, and they like him. Not the worst outcome

How good though would this be next year:

Klef-Larsson
Sek-Harmonic
Nurse-Benning
Griff-Gryba (Fayne)

– I think Chia would “lose more trades” for this D

Dicky94

I think the Oilers have to trade Eberle now. The fans have soured on him now and If he were to go 10 games at the start of next season with no goals, he would be ran out of town. I really like Ebs but I think it’s time to move on. Still would love to see Marcus Foligno in an Oiler uniform. Ebs for Foligno and a 2nd?

N64

Cahoon: Now that we are out of the playoffs, how long until Spencer Foo signs?

The reporting is that he is holding his fire until after free agency. Teams could move up and down his list if moves affect his opportunities. That could also be a negotiating ploy for guarantees but fewer players in the way is the best guarantee

slopitch

leadfarmer: Make sure you have a big pile of incriminating photos of Sakic before you attempt the first.

Haha. Its hard to speculate. If Duchene wants out its our only hope. He only had 41 points last year so they may be down on that. Other then that, yes, its what Id do. Takes 2 to tango unfortunately! Ha

JD_Wry

N64: Teams could move up and down his list if moves affect his opportunities

Stay tuned for the next episode of Spencer for Hire.

Material Elvis

slopitch: Haha. Its hard to speculate. If Duchene wants out its our only hope. He only had 41 points last year so they may be down on that. Other then that, yes, its what Id do. Takes 2 to tango unfortunately! Ha

I think what they meant to say was, “If you want Duchene, you will need to offer more than Ebs and Rhinoplasty”. Colorado would want more.

Bruce McCurdy

At this moment, the Stars’ goaltending budget for next year is $15.3 MM.

Not a Belfour or even a Turco anywhere in sight.

Hahahahahaha

Material Elvis

Bruce McCurdy:
At this moment, the Stars’ goaltending budget for next year is $15.3 MM.

Not a Belfour or even a Turco anywhere in sight.

Hahahahahaha

I’m sure they aren’t concerned. Didn’t you know that Vegas is taking every other team’s bad contracts?

Durag

Bruce McCurdy:
At this moment, the Stars’ goaltending budget for next year is $15.3 MM.

Not a Belfour or even a Turco anywhere in sight.

Hahahahahaha

How beautiful does Cam Talbot’s contract look right now?

jtblack

Kinger_Oil.redux,

Yah, I really think he might be able to do something with NYI … They need help now to show Tavares they are serious. So if we can get Strome & Hamonic for Eberle & Benson??? or something ….

There is more to hockey than box cars. Ebs and Pouliot completely failed the box car Test, but they also failed the eye test. Just poor hockey from a physical standpoint, execution standpoint and details standpoint. At least RNH passed the eye test somewhat … he certainly got an F on the box car test. Also, considering the level of competition the last few games, there is no excuse for any of them …

Stud Muffin

What’s the bonus overage on the cap next year because of Leon?

Also I’ll go with 6.8 for Leon and 9.5-10.5 for Connor, anything over that is just plain crazy. No one on there second contract has ever got over 10m, usually don’t come close to that either.

Ducey

jake70:
LT, what do you think of trying to bring Hemsky back for a 2ndtour of duty on right at a decent price? Will be 34 in August.Just finished his 3 year deal in Dallas, 4M per year.And he shoots Right.Or has that ship sailed?

From online site Blackout Dallas (Tom Dorsa writer):

***Ales Hemsky can’t generate shooting chances as well as Sharp can, but as far as bottom-six finishers go, he’s one of the best in the NHL. Despite playing just 15 games this year, the Czech forward scored three goals and four assists, good for a 0.46 points per game rating. At that pace, Hemsky would have tallied 21 goals and 16 assists oved 82 games…………Hemsky is a tad younger (than Sharp who the article also talks about), but given his past injury timeline, the Dallas Stars might be the only team to give him a shot. He could, and if all falls into play well, be signed to a Jiri Hudler-esque one-year, $2-million contract.***

Its a little questionable to extrapolate from 15 games. Especially when he had a pretty high shooting percentage for him (13%, he is usually at 10) and the projection relies a lot on goals.

I don’t think he would be a fit. He is not an Eberle replacement (he is maybe a 35 pt player if healthy). You want to keep Slepy and Kassian. So its Hemsky or JP. They can’t afford/ fit both.

I think I go with JP. By playoff time next year, I think he is likely to be a more impactful player than Hemsky.

anonymous

I doubt the upcoming CBA effects current contract negotiations. Especially to shorten their length. This is Lebrun trying to start the “Mcdavid to Toronto” hype train. Connor would have to field questions the moment and every interview after he signs a 4 year deal. I think I’d quit the internet.

Professor Q

JDI:
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Ben Bishop contract details: $7 M, $6.5 M, $5.5 M, $3.5 M, $3.5 M, $3.5 M; and NMC throughout, modified NTC last 3 years

Bishop to cheque.

Well played, sir. Let’s hope their Gambit plays off, except against Edmonton.