JAIL GUITAR DOORS

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers approach free agency with about six million to spend, plus whatever they feel comfortable risking on the Andrej Sekera LTIR move. That’s one big contract or two smaller items. Where to shop? I think RHD is the primary need but there’s not much out there. Trade? Unless the Oilers are willing to deal Nuge, I can’t see it. Until the deadline, this may be us.

CURRENT PROJECTED ROSTER

  • I’ve tweaked the cap number based on ‘reasonable’ expectations for the bonus money, which I have set at $4 million. That covers all of McDavid and some of the other group but not more than half of any of the players eligible (JP, Nurse, Benning, Caggiula, Slepyshev).
  • I have Sekera here, Edmonton could LTIR if they get to the cap without bonuses but it’s a stick wicket since McDavid is likely to max the max. Let’s say $6 million in walking around money for a RHD and C-RW.

FORWARDS (FREE AGENTS)

  1. R Sam Gagner FREE AGENT (81gp, 18-32-50). EV numbers are good too.
  2. LC Martin Hanzal FREE AGENT (71gp, 20-19-39). Everybody loves Hanzal.
  3. L Patrick Marleau FREE AGENT. (82gp, 27-19-46). Knows the coach.
  4. R Radim Vrbata FREE AGENT (81gp, 20-35-55). Scorer.
  5. R Justin Williams FREE AGENT (80gp, 24-24-48). Luxury.
  6. LC Nick Bonino FREE AGENT (80gp, 18-19-37). Two-way C.
  7. LC Joe Thornton FREE AGENT (79gp, 7-43-50). Love to see it, seems doubtful.
  8. R Drew Stafford FREE AGENT (58gp, 8-13-21). Chiarelli type.
  9. R-L Thomas Vanek FREE AGENT (68gp, 17-31-48). Offensive option.
  10. R Jordan Weal FREE AGENT (23gp, 8-4-12). Not a lock for Philly?
  11. R Jarome Iginla FREE AGENT (80gp, 14-13-27). He can still shoot the puck.
  12. R Jaromir Jagr FREE AGENT (82gp, 16-30-46). Now 70, still going.
  13. R Kris Versteeg FREE AGENT (69gp, 15-22-37). What he brings has value.
  14. R Ales Hemsky FREE AGENT (15gp, 4-3-7). Still brilliantly creative.
  15. R Tyler Pitlick FREE AGENT (31gp, 8-3-11). Finally emerged, could return.
  16. R P-A Parenteau FREE AGENT (67gp, 13-15-28). Can still score.
  17. LC Dominic Moore FREE AGENT (82gp, 11-14-25). PK and FO option.
  18. LC Brian Boyle FREE AGENT (75gp, 13-12-25). He is on their list.
  19. L Patrick Sharp FREE AGENT (48gp, 8-10-18). Depending on health and price.
  20. R Alex Chiasson FREE AGENT (81gp, 12-12-24). Has some value.
  21. LC Mikhail Grigorenko FREE AGENT (75gp, 10-13-23). Good faceoff man.

I added Weal to the list, rumors have him heading out west (after early rumor had him staying in the east). Several fascinating RFA’s weren’t qualified so that group increases the overall number available. I like Tyler Pitlick a lot, Ales Hemsky too, but suspect we’ll see a Drew Stafford over either of them. Chiarelli has no problem with the aged, so Jarome or even Shane Doan (not listed) could end up in Edmonton.

I’ve decided Sam Gagner is the best investment for the group. He can play depth RW, help on the power play and perhaps move up as needed. He shouldn’t cost a ton.

DEFENSE (FREE AGENTS)

  1. RD Cody Franson FREE AGENT (68GP, 3-16-19). Out of the blue and into the black.
  2. RD Kevin Shattenkirk FREE AGENT (80gp, 13-43-56). One year at big coin?
  3. LD Brian Campbell FREE AGENT (80gp, 5-12-17). The man can still wheel.
  4. RD Christian Folin FREE AGENT (51gp, 2-6-8). New free agent arrival.
  5. RD Michael Stone FREE AGENT (64gp, 3-12-15). May be some interest.
  6. RD Eric Gryba FREE AGENT (40gp, 2-4-6). Good chance he returns.
  7. LD Jordan Oesterle FREE AGENT (2gp, 0-0-0). I like him as a 7D option.
  8. RD Dennis Wideman FREE AGENT (57gp, 5-13-18). Going to the end of the line.
  9. RD Adam Clendening FREE AGENT (31gp, 2-9-11). Still hanging around.

Cody Franson makes it all the way to No. 1 on my list. I also added Folin and Clendening and made the Wideman portion of summer official. MSM seems to be thinking Eric Gryba is a lock, suspect that’s true. After that, PC has to decide whether or no Mark Fayne projects as an NHL option. If not, we could see two of these names added. Don’t forget college man like Teemu Kivihalme, that could be a hidden option. Matt Benning arrived in the NHL last fall and doubt he’ll be leaving for a long time.

Bruce wrote a wonderful piece on Coach Drake here, recommended reading. A legendary figure, he touched so many lives in a positive way and this letter is simply breathtaking. If you can make that much of a difference (as above) in one person’s life you are exceptional. To do it over many decades is something else again.

CODY FRANSON

  • 5×5 points per 60: 0.88 (1st among regular Sabres defensemen)
  • 5×4 points per 60: 1.22 (two points in 98 minutes)
  • Corsi for 5×5 %: 50.9
  • Corsi Rel 5×5 %: 5.0
  • DFF Elite 5×5 %: 47.0
  • DFF Elite Rel 5×5 %: 4.8 (31 percent of TOI v. elites)
  • Shots on goal/percentage: 93 shots/3.2%
  • Boxcars: 68gp, 3-16-19
  • (All numbers via Stats.HockeyAnalysis.com and hockey-reference)
  • Special thanks to GMoney and Woodguy for sharing the DFF’s

Cody Franson, as of now, is the No. 1 free agent on my board for the Edmonton Oilers. I know he is not a grand skater and there is some chaos to his game. I understand his power-play numbers weren’t terrific last season and I get that Edmonton may have him as 7D once Andrej Sekera returns. All that understood, he’s the best available fit. I’ll go even farther than that, Cody Franson is a good fit for the Oilers at this time.

SPENCER FOO

If your son is a young college hockey player with tough decisions ahead of him, the last six months of Spencer Foo’s career offer some really good insight. Faced with returning to a Union College team on the downswing due to graduation, Foo would have been something of a Stone Alone on the squad. His boxcars may have suffered and his value as a pro prospect eroded. As it is, he waited until after free agency to find the right spot and that’s ideal for him. Is that spot Edmonton? Don’t know. If we assume that one of Draisaitl/Strome will be 1R and that Zack Kassian will hold down another spot, it means two positions are open on the roster at this time. Here are the NHLE’s of candidates who spent time outside of the NHL last year.

  1. Anton Slepyshev (AHL) 43
  2. Jesse Puljujarvi (AHL) 31
  3. Spencer Foo (ECAC) 31
  4. Greg Chase (AHL) 13
  5. Patrick Russell (AHL) 10

For the Oilers, part of the appeal might be to have the option of sending Jesse Puljujarvi to Bakersfield. It burns off the bonus money and gives the big Finn another (say) half season to develop. Drake Caggiula may also slide into a RW job so there are plenty of options. I do think we’ll see a free agent added somewhere along the way.

THE DRAFT ANALYST AND EDMONTON’S DRAFT

Steve Kournianos and the folks at The Draft Analyst do the most exhaustive work on each year’s entry draft. It gives us some unique opportunities, including access to an actual mountain of prospects for each year’s selection. Here’s Edmonton’s list and how TDA ranked them.

  • No. 22 Kailer Yamamoto (DA No. 16)
  • No. 78 Stuart Skinner (DA No. 9 goalie)
  • No. 84 Dmitri Samorukov (DA No. 65)
  • No. 115 Ostap Safin (DA No. 56)
  • No. 146 Kirill Maksimov (DA No. 178)
  • No. 177 Skyler Brind’Amour (DA No. 146)
  • No. 208 Phil Kemp (DA No. 168)
  • Source
  • Goalie Source

Steve will join me on the Lowdown this morning to discuss the Oilers’ draft. That’s three (Bob McKenzie, Craig Button) lists so far that have Edmonton’s draft showing well.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning, full boat and lots to discuss. TSN1260 beginning at 10, scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, Oilers Nation. Eberle gone, Russell back, are the Oilers done?
  • Derek Taylor, TSN. CFL Week One, Ricky Ray timeless, Eskimos raunchy!
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Oilers moves, Leafs non-moves, Flames blue moves.
  • Steve Kournianos, The Draft Analyst. We look at the Oilers draft as well as some other astute draft boards.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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GCW_69

If I were GM, I would be talking to Weal, Versteeg, Parenteau, Vrbata, Grigorenko, Bonino, Hanzal, and Kulikov.

Kulikov is interesting because he has top four ability if healthy.

Walking away from this summer with:

Maroon – McDavid – Strome

Lucic – Leon – Versteeg/Vrbata/Parenteau/Slepy

Grigorenko – Nuge – Versteeg/Vrbata/Parenteau/Slepy/Weal

Drake – Letestu – Kassian

Klefbom – Larsson

Kulikov – Russell

Nurse — Benning

or

Maroon – McDavid – Strome

Lucic – Leon – Versteeg/Vrbata/Parenteau/Slepy

Nuge – Bonino/Hanzal – Versteeg/Vrbata/Parenteau/Slepy/Weal

Drake – Letestu – Kassian

Klefbom – Larsson

Kulikov – Russell

Nurse — Benning

would be not bad.

Bank Shot

Pink Socks:
Ryan Rishaug‏ @TSNRyanRishaug

July 1 will likely be very quiet for the Oilers, barring any major unexpected happenings, don’t think they’ll be doing much.Roster is set

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This is somewhat bothersome.Team is lesser today than it was at the end of the season.I’m glad that PC isn’t going to blow money on a UFA, but for the roster to be “set” suggests that we may be going into next season with a few pretty gaping holes.

Yeah. You’d like to see some improvements made to the roster even if minor.

We are definitely looking to be behind where we were at the end of last season.

kooler

Sign Versteeg.

russ99

Pink Socks:
Ryan Rishaug‏ @TSNRyanRishaug

July 1 will likely be very quiet for the Oilers, barring any major unexpected happenings, don’t think they’ll be doing much.Roster is set

—-

This is somewhat bothersome.Team is lesser today than it was at the end of the season.I’m glad that PC isn’t going to blow money on a UFA, but for the roster to be “set” suggests that we may be going into next season with a few pretty gaping holes.

Chia kept tinkering last year. Once Leon’s number is set I have no doubt that Chia will look for some inexpensive help.

kooler

Pink Socks,

The wait is over.

Pink Socks

russ99: That’s OK, we now don’t have to give a prospect automatic playing time this year, and spend what we were going to on Foo for an NHL veteran.

I agree with the sentiment, I just don’t like CGY winning anything.

russ99

Pink Socks:
Gross, Foo to the Flames

That’s OK, we now don’t have to give a prospect automatic playing time this year, and spend what we were going to on Foo for an NHL veteran.

Pink Socks

Ryan Rishaug‏ @TSNRyanRishaug

July 1 will likely be very quiet for the Oilers, barring any major unexpected happenings, don’t think they’ll be doing much. Roster is set

—-

This is somewhat bothersome. Team is lesser today than it was at the end of the season. I’m glad that PC isn’t going to blow money on a UFA, but for the roster to be “set” suggests that we may be going into next season with a few pretty gaping holes.

Pink Socks

Gross, Foo to the Flames

Bank Shot

Ducey:
I have been thinking (for once) and wonder if the Oilers need to get a steam roller from the Raffi Torres, Mike Grier family. A player like that (big, fast, hits like a ton) would sure go a long ways to helping the Oilers in the playoffs.

Kassian did that early in playoffs but then stopped – I presume due to injury. But they don’t really have that on their team, or system right now.

I guess Ostap Safin is supposed to be that type of player, but who knows.

Ducey

I have been thinking (for once) and wonder if the Oilers need to get a steam roller from the Raffi Torres, Mike Grier family. A player like that (big, fast, hits like a ton) would sure go a long ways to helping the Oilers in the playoffs.

Kassian did that early in playoffs but then stopped – I presume due to injury. But they don’t really have that on their team, or system right now.

Scungilli Slushy

I think Marleau would be a great add for a year. He can also play centre. He still skates well.

I’m not so sure e how giant slow centres help much. Hanzal is a reg season help but the speed of the playoffs seemed to get the better of him. Weal isn’t an NHL player still, he isn’t as good as Strome so I don’t see a fit other than the Condors.

They still need D depth on both sides unless they think Simpson or Jones can spot in and have shaved Fayne’s sideburns. In which case we only see a trade or a one year on a forward.

N64

kooler:
N64,

That’s right….there’s 2 of them.Looks like the elder is reviewing all is options still.

Stauffer has been downplaying Free Agent Foo signing here.

Ducey

Professor Q: Peter?

Chiarelli?

Professor Q

N64: Parker?

Peter?

kooler

N64,

That’s right….there’s 2 of them. Looks like the elder is reviewing all is options still.

Doug McLachlan

N64,

Parker Foo was selected by the BlackHawks. Suspicion is that Spencer Foo will sign with Detroit.

We have reached the point where we can’t assure anyone ice-time that isn’t earned. This is a good thing but it means that promising gambles have to look elsewhere. Hope he finds the right fit and has a solid pro debut.

dustrock

Didn’t think I’d be able to be surprised by a rock record in 2017, but check out Algiers’ new album The Underside Of Power.

Imagine a Sam Cooke/Edwin Starr type soul singer singing over early TV On the Radio, with the drummer from Bloc Party.

Interesting stuff.

Ducey

Richard S.S.:
If people are so sure Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is such a vital piece of the Oilers future then they must have already decided which of Draisaitl or McDavid gets traded.

McDavid’s contract is likely to be in the $12.0-$12.5 Million range if not more.By waiting to sign Draisaitl next, his price will be more, Probably $8.0-$8.5 Million range if not more.The Oilers Top-4 Defense and Star Goaltender cost:$22.0 Million.That leaves only about $32.0 Million to keep 15 more on the Roster.RNH, Lucic, Sekera and Pouliot occupy $21.5 Million of that $32.0.That’s not acceptable.

So who do the Oilers keep?

Look at the chart above. They don’t need to trade any of them this year. Next year Fayne comes off the books, and Korpse buyout is finished.

Hopefully Pouliot bounces back and then can deal him.

Maybe the cap goes up.

Maybe Yamamoto or Benson or JP emerge and you flip Strome, or maybe Maroon.

Maybe they put Leon on a bridge deal.

Maybe they flip Russell quickly because they have other options.

Who knows?

Trading Nuge this season because you might have cap problems in the future would not be smart.

N64

kooler:
Is that right Foo to the hawks?

Parker?

kooler

Is that right Foo to the hawks?

Doug McLachlan

LT will probably bring it up tonight but reading Elliotte Friedman’s 30 Thoughts there is a mention of a third team that was part of the Eberle-Strome discussions. Point 5 on the list.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-trade-value-first-round-pick/

My suspicion is that the third team is/was Colorado. The Islanders are stockpiling picks to make a play for Duchene. If I am correct about the third team here, is the Oilers’ target Barrie and are those discussions over now that Hamonic is a Flame?

frjohnk

frjohnk: Ricki would hate player A as he leaves the barn door open.

Player A, B, C play same style, bring same offense but these are the“against” metrics.Player A is the oldest, Player B is 1 year younger than player A, player C is 2 years younger than A.

CA/60
Player A56.17(111th best numberswhen using 500 minutes 5 on 5 for Dmen)
Player B48.65
Player C50.53

ShotsAgainst/60
Player A29.31 (78th best numbers
Player B25.83
Player C27.03

GoalsAgainst/60
Player A2.36 (117th best numbers, tied with Kevin Bieska)
Player B1.36
Player C1.79

High Danger Shot Attempts/60
Player A12.08 (167th best numbers, 0.33 better than Girardi who was bought out)
Player B8.52
Player C9.01

High Danger Goals Against/60
Player A1.55 (151st best numbers, 0.05 better than Justin Faulk)
Player B0.72
Player C0.9

-Just looking at “against” numbers and not using “for” numbers in the equation does not give us much information.

-Style of play by team matters when factor into these numbers.Teams like the Devils that are not high event in either end will look good in Rickis eyes.Teams like the Oilersthat are high event in either end will not good in Rickis eyes.

-Quality of Competition matters

-Quality of Teammates matters

Player A is 50% or better in all those metrics which include corsi, shot, goal, high danger shot attempt and high danger goal shares

Player B is 50% or better only in goal and high danger goal share.

Player C is 50% or better only in goal and high danger goal share.

I would pick Player A as the best. Ricki wouldn’t.

Player A is Larsson with the Oilers.
Player B and C is Larsson with Devils the two years prior.

russ99

I really was hoping we could find someone better than Gryba, but at 900k the price is right.

Doug McLachlan

If McDavid comes in at any number south of $14M we have a value contract. Sure, I’d love him to take $9.7M for esthetics but he should be the top salary in the league. Period. Full Stop. If he wants that over 8 years we should be thrilled and a $97M or $100M total contract is perfectly legit.

$12.125M per year ($97M total over 8) or $12.5M per year ($100M total over 8) are both perfectly reasonable numbers.

Leon’s number is the trickier one. Suspect the comparable contract is Tarasenko”s $7.5M – with a bit of top up for inflation?

The Penguins have been dealing with Crosby at $8.7M and Malkin at $9.5M. Combined that is a much higher relative cap hit than even $12.5M+$8.0M under today’s cap. Painful but manageable.

TO10801

Question re Drai contract: If you look at Hall’s first 3 seasons in the NHL he had better PPG than Drai and had no McDavid to help him. What are the chances Draisaitl does not cover the best if he signs a contract with an AAV over 7? I know he was dominant on his own at times in the playoffs, but that is a very small sample size. I think you bridge him and see where it goes, but all indications are that it is going to be a long term deal.

Professor Q

~ So, $14 million AAV for 8 for McDavid and $10 million AAV for 8 for Draisaitl?

Probably the best we could hope for… ~ ?

I keed, I keed. I don’t think it’ll be Domesday Scenario like everyone else does.

npanciroli

I would be tempted to see what kind of RHD Draisaitl fetches if he costs more than 7.5. Not saying I would do it, but really makes you think.

Richard S.S.

If people are so sure Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is such a vital piece of the Oilers future then they must have already decided which of Draisaitl or McDavid gets traded.

McDavid’s contract is likely to be in the $12.0-$12.5 Million range if not more. By waiting to sign Draisaitl next, his price will be more, Probably $8.0-$8.5 Million range if not more. The Oilers Top-4 Defense and Star Goaltender cost:$22.0 Million. That leaves only about $32.0 Million to keep 15 more on the Roster. RNH, Lucic, Sekera and Pouliot occupy $21.5 Million of that $32.0. That’s not acceptable.

So who do the Oilers keep?

N64

Ryan Rishaug @TSNRyanRishaug
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17m

McDavid Draisaitl contract watch continues. I’d guess 97 to be in 13m range on an 8 year deal. We’ll see.

Over 8 years

97 12.125
100 12.5
104 13

frjohnk

Cassandra: The Las Vegas defense + Fistric.

Not kidding.

Ricki only likes defensive defenders but still hasn’t realized that if you measure defenders by GA what you are really measuring is quality of competition and goaltending.

He hates offensive defensemen because he doesn’t understand the concepts of opportunity and marginal gain, and hence evaluates the scoring of defense and wingers on the same scale.

He also doesn’t understand things like sample sizes and significant digits.

Ricki would hate player A as he leaves the barn door open.

Player A, B, C play same style, bring same offense but these are the “against” metrics. Player A is the oldest, Player B is 1 year younger than player A, player C is 2 years younger than A.

CA/60
Player A 56.17 (111th best numbers when using 500 minutes 5 on 5 for Dmen)
Player B 48.65
Player C 50.53

ShotsAgainst/60
Player A 29.31 (78th best numbers
Player B 25.83
Player C 27.03

GoalsAgainst/60
Player A 2.36 (117th best numbers, tied with Kevin Bieska)
Player B 1.36
Player C 1.79

High Danger Shot Attempts/60
Player A 12.08 (167th best numbers, 0.33 better than Girardi who was bought out)
Player B 8.52
Player C 9.01

High Danger Goals Against/60
Player A 1.55 (151st best numbers, 0.05 better than Justin Faulk)
Player B 0.72
Player C 0.9

-Just looking at “against” numbers and not using “for” numbers in the equation does not give us much information.

-Style of play by team matters when factor into these numbers. Teams like the Devils that are not high event in either end will look good in Rickis eyes. Teams like the Oilers that are high event in either end will not good in Rickis eyes.

-Quality of Competition matters

-Quality of Teammates matters

Player A is 50% or better in all those metrics which include corsi, shot, goal, high danger shot attempt and high danger goal shares

Player B is 50% or better only in goal and high danger goal share.

Player C is 50% or better only in goal and high danger goal share.

I would pick Player A as the best. Ricki wouldn’t.

DevilsLettuce

Stanley:
Richard S.S.,

I really don’t see any evidence that trading Nuge would get us anything more than the return we got for Eberle.

I think Oilers fans over value their players………. until we turn on them & run them out of town.

Nuge saws off elite competition playing the middle of the ice, there’s always more value for that over a one dimensional winger.

DevilsLettuce

If Nuge is dealt who is the C that going to play 42% of his time with the opposing elites… certainly not a C brought in to grow with the team.. both 29 and 97 #’s will be severely impacted

Ducey

Capfriendly say that Russell’s NTC in year 3 is a ten team no trade list, in year 4 its 15 teams he may reject.

So in year three it should not be that hard to trade him.

Chachi

Cassandra: The Las Vegas defense + Fistric.

Not kidding.

Ricki only likes defensive defenders but still hasn’t realized that if you measure defenders by GA what you are really measuring is quality of competition and goaltending.

He hates offensive defensemen because he doesn’t understand the concepts of opportunity and marginal gain, and hence evaluates the scoring of defense and wingers on the same scale.

He also doesn’t understand things like sample sizes and significant digits.

First of all, what do you expect from an actual bear? It is a miracle he can type anything at all!
Finally, I am guessing there is one significant digit he would be happy to share with you.

dustrock

Apparently Zadorov could return to KHL if his camp and Colorado can’t come to terms on new contract.

Worth looking into at all?

Stanley

Richard S.S.,

I really don’t see any evidence that trading Nuge would get us anything more than the return we got for Eberle.

I think Oilers fans over value their players………. until we turn on them & run them out of town.

Blackwolf

Ducey,

Except that huge hasn’t been putting up the points or being tremendously effective shutting down tough comp.
Love the player, wonder if it’s the systems or maybe still something with his hand.

Cassandra

northof51: Curious (for real), who would be the “all-Ricki” team defense, based on your HDSCA numbers? (NHL wide, not just possible targets for the Oilers)

The Las Vegas defense + Fistric.

Not kidding.

Ricki only likes defensive defenders but still hasn’t realized that if you measure defenders by GA what you are really measuring is quality of competition and goaltending.

He hates offensive defensemen because he doesn’t understand the concepts of opportunity and marginal gain, and hence evaluates the scoring of defense and wingers on the same scale.

He also doesn’t understand things like sample sizes and significant digits.

Richard S.S.

When Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is traded it will be for a young, very talented player still on the ELC or in a Bridge Contract, but basically under 24 years of age because that’s what Chiarelli’s after. But mark my words, Ryan Nugent- Hopkins will be traded, relatively soon, just not this year. This Oilers will be facing the same Cap problems that Chicago and Pittsburgh now face soon enough.

rickithebear

Ron Hainsey:
A quality HD anchor Dman.

15-16 to 16-17
W/ Hanafin 3.69
w/ Faulk 3.02 EVGA60
W/ Pesce 2.33
———————— can you guess the Brutal HD Dmen
W/ Slavin 1.97
W/ Striet 1.53
W/ Murphy 1.52
W/ Doumulin 1.39
W/ Liles 1.17

13-14 to 14-15
W/ Gleason 3.97
W/ Faulk 2.81
W/ Murphy 2.71
————————– Can you guess the Brutal HD Dmen
W/ Bellimore 1.82
W/ Liles 1.69
W/ Sekera 1.45
W/ Jordon 1.41

Yes please to Hainsey!

Pouzar

vinotintazo:
why are we not signing Pitlick yet?

They are talking so it could happen soon. I hope so.

northof51

rickithebear: Justin Faulk is one of the 10 worst HD Dmen in the league.

He generates Even offence at .79 EVP/60
equal to #394 Forward pace right there with Mclement; Lazar; Thorburn.

Pb offence and Press box Defence!

Good Choice!

Curious (for real), who would be the “all-Ricki” team defense, based on your HDSCA numbers? (NHL wide, not just possible targets for the Oilers)

vinotintazo

why are we not signing Pitlick yet?

Tapdog

Acumen:
Any reason Brett Connolly doesn’t make the cut? Not qualified by the Caps and he seems like a great fit at a low price point. Chiarelli has traded for him before as well.

He signed a two year deal yesterday for 3 mill.

McNuge93

Ducey: Nuge is key. He plays the toughs and still puts up offense. He is a darn good player.

And Leon has not shown he is the 2C longterm. Nuge is the safety there.

If you replace Nuge with Grigorenko the Oilers take a massive hit.

Grigorenko is a bust who has not done anything since junior. I have no problem with taking a flyer on a big player with tools and pedigree who looks like he was mishandled by BUF and then was on a terrible COL team. But he should not be counted on and shouldbe given AHL time/ bottom six roles until he shows he can turn it around.

He would be a Pitlick replacement, with higher upside.

We’ve had a bad experience with Russian busts so my vote is no way. I’d rather have Pitlick.

And trading Nuge now doesn’t make sense, we actually have some depth. I think the rule is we only trade one Steve Austin per year.

rickithebear

stush18:
JUst had a thought.

What if nuge+ is dealt for say Faulk, and grigorenko is signed as our 3c to grow with the team.

Justin Faulk is one of the 10 worst HD Dmen in the league.

He generates Even offence at .79 EVP/60
equal to #394 Forward pace right there with Mclement; Lazar; Thorburn.

Pb offence and Press box Defence!

Good Choice!

Ducey

Oh, and great news on Gryba. He is no Martin Marincin, but I like him.

Ducey

stush18:
JUst had a thought.

What if nuge+ is dealt for say Faulk, and grigorenko is signed as our 3c to grow with the team.

Nuge is key. He plays the toughs and still puts up offense. He is a darn good player.

And Leon has not shown he is the 2C longterm. Nuge is the safety there.

If you replace Nuge with Grigorenko the Oilers take a massive hit.

Grigorenko is a bust who has not done anything since junior. I have no problem with taking a flyer on a big player with tools and pedigree who looks like he was mishandled by BUF and then was on a terrible COL team. But he should not be counted on and should be given AHL time/ bottom six roles until he shows he can turn it around.

He would be a Pitlick replacement, with higher upside.

NecrOILmancer

Bruce McCurdy:

Then there were the letters from doctors (Randy Gregg, Dave Otto), lawyers (Ed Molstad, Jim Carr), judges (Allan Wachowich), parliamentarians (Chief Wilton Littlechild), people who went on to be successful in life and bolster our community. Coach Drake’s legacy is immeasurable, but immense.

I used to rent a basement room in Ed Molstad’s parent’s house. 3 generations of that family played for the Eskimos. Ed’s dad, Howie, used to play the sax in the band at the Eskies halftime show. Post WW II, Howie once scammed a royalty sweet in Mexico by claiming to be the “president of Alberta.”