STANDING BENEATH THE MARQUEE MOON

by Lowetide

This is Ryan Strome. Peter Chiarelli brought him in as a cost effective replacement for Jordan Eberle, or so he hopes. It’s a bet, just like everything else in life. That sounds cynical but it’s true. Based on all we know, the Islanders got the better player and the Oilers saved $3.5 million. We have a tendency to throw shade on deals we don’t like and then move on, never bothering  to go back and review our own thoughts one year later. At least for today, let’s correct that mistake.

  • Lowetide, July 2 2016Looking back on the week, and examining the back story via Elliotte Friedman’s excellent 30 Thoughts, I think the error was in not getting P.K. Subban. I understand the cap number was fierce, but that doesn’t make it impossible. There would certainly be pressure on the value end—more Brandon Davidson style roster players—but he did a nice job with Patrick Maroon and this Drake Caggiula fellow could fit the description. Opportunity missed, and you can only trade Taylor Hall once. You can tell me the ask was too much, and that may be true, but the trade happened at the eleventh hour, not at five minutes to midnight. For me, we can make an argument that PC pulled the trigger on the Larsson deal too soon. Source

The rumored ask at the time was Leon Drasaitl, a defenseman (Oscar Klefbom or Darnell Nurse, never did get confirmation) and a flip of first-round picks (Oilers sending No. 4 to Montreal for No. 9 overall). One year on, would you trade Leon, Oscar and Jesse Puljujarvi for Subban and Mikhael Sergachev? Humility is a good idea in all things, especially when luck can have an enormous impact. As it turns out, Leon alone may pack a $9 million annual wallop by fall.

CURRENT 50-MAN

  • As of this instant, Joey Laleggia is going to be fighting with Ty Rattie, Mitch Callahan and Joe Gambardella for the final forward spot.
  • Mark Fayne has made the team.
  • If you want unicorns: Caggiula-McDavid-Strome; Lucic-Draisaitl-Slepyshev; Maroon-Nuge-Puljujarvi. What do you think?

SCOTT HOWSON

The problem with the world today is there isn’t enough oxygen to have a conversation. If I say “Scott Howson” someone says “Nikitin! Nuff said” and then the conversation drifts to something else. Howson should have been fired on merit for that crazy Nikitin trade/contract, but his resume suggests some real quality in amateur procurement.  When he was GM, the Blue Jackets drafted Cam Atkinson in the sixth round in 2008, David Savard in the fourth round in 2009, Ryan Johansen in the first round in 2010, Boone Jenner in the second round in 2011. I’m not saying it’s a brilliant signing but he does seem to have some acumen in amateur scouting and development. I’m not absolutely clear on his new role but it sounds like he has been assigned the task of finding the next Conor Sheary. We can never be sure but this might be an astute acquisition based on his skill set. Can we have a conversation about it? Hope so.

PREDICTION

When Leon Draisaitl finally signs there will be some free agents left and Peter Chiarelli probably wades in. I’ll guess he signs Brandon Pirri and Cody Franson, but don’t discount the senior set. Chiarelli doesn’t have an issue with deploying older players (Mark Recchi, Jaromir Jagr, Jarome Iginla) in feature roles. Here are the top ten octogenarians currently available:

  1. Jaromir Jagr (45) 82gp, 16-30-46
  2. Shane Doan (40) 74gp, 6-21-27
  3. Matt Cullen (40) 72gp, 13-18-31
  4. Jarome Iginla (40) 80gp, 14-13-27
  5. Mark Streit (39) 68gp, 6-21-27
  6. Andrei Markov (38) 62gp, 6-30-36
  7. Brian Gionta (38) 82gp, 15-20-35
  8. Brian Campbell (38) 80gp, 5-12-17
  9. Francois Beauchemin (37) 81gp, 5-13-18
  10. Mike Fisher (37) 72gp, 18-24-42

Chances are these men return to their former teams, but I can see the Oilers plucking a player from this group late in free agency. Shocked to my shoes Markov is still out there, there have been dozens of inferior blue signed since July 1 and this guy is still waiting? That’s crazy. Daniel Winnik also remains available, one of my favorite players. Best goalie available? Probably Jhonas Enroth.

PUCK IQ!

Congratulations to all who are responsible for the Puck IQ site and really there should be equal acclaim here. The numbers are sweet music, but so is the navigation and it appears the site was ready for us to ascend upon it like a pack of hungry coyotes. Well done men! Now, let’s throw this giant ball of oil out the window!

OILERS FORWARDS VERSUS 5X5 ELITES

We’ll learn these metrics together, unless you are ahead of me then screw you for making me remedial. Here are Oilers forwards from 2016-17 (over 100 minutes) against elite opposition. The first column is percentage of overall time-on-ice against elites, showing RNH played the most (as a percentage of his own icetime) against the toughs. Elite TOI explains itself, the top six F’s are clear based on these numbers. DFF is Dangerous Fenwick, share of playing field against the elites, showing McDavid rocking everyone’s world and Jordan Eberle sailing strong. Rel (or what I understand as Rel) shows four men in the black, Nuge in the red (suggesting he cannot thrive with 42 percent against elites) and the youngsters where we should have predicted they would be based on youth and inexperience.

A couple more things: Ryan Strome is (from left to right) 29.0 percent, 235.02 time on ice, 41.10 DFF and -3.20 Rel. Closest match on the Oilers board? Zack Kassian. Also, when the boys get the wowys we should look for pockets of opportunity at all three levels (elite, middle, gritensity). We may find that Letestu-Kassian are do do do looking out my back door and a worthy fourth-line duet. Puck IQ info is here.

MARKET SHIFT

Connor McDavid’s $13.25M times eight deal should be coming down the pipe later this week. It’s already having an impact and means the top end talent is going to get paid beginning with the second contract. I am no expert, but Peter Chiarelli may want to get Leon signed earlier than late, because some of these deals are going to be monstrous. These two deals are for foundation players, and that means the next deals are going to be easier in 2018 and 2019. At this point, I expect we’ll see Leon come in around $9 million, Nuge traded and veteran free agents signing for $1 million all over the land. The world as we know it is changing. Pray for Chiarelli. Light a candle. Do it.

 

 

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[…] the man, but he has a very strong track record when it comes to drafting and developing players. As Lowetide pointed out in his blog over the weekend, the Blue Jackets were strong at the draft table during Howson’s time with […]

Woodguy v2.0

leadfarmer: Ok thanks.I like your targets posts in the offseason cause it makes me look at some players closer than I would normally but you were busy with other stuff this year.

I hope Woodguy 3.0 comes with an upgraded troll ignoring function

Me too. 🙂

striatic

I think Draisaitl is worth more than Kuznetsov, something something upside. At the very least he could be worth more and that’s the problem. I’d guess that the issue for the Draisaitl camp is Term. Does Draisaitl really want to take 8 million long term if he legitimately believes he’s as good as, say, Kopitar at 10 million? That’s not an outlandish thing for the man to believe.

If you are Leon, and you believe you’re going to be that good, how do you sign for 20% [at least] below where you think you are and will be?

YKOil

Some quick thoughts:

1. Howson may be qualified for that position but it really is, still, the old boys club and that has to stop (please, dear lord, let it stop).

2. McDavid ($13.25) and Drai ($9.0) earning 30% of the cap, plus Lucic and Russell tacking on another 13% means 43% of the cap on 4 players – one of which is unproven over term and two of which are going to go downhill fast. This will not end well. PC has to hold the line on Drai.

3. McDavid is worth every penny but I’m not fond of the fact that the Oilers will be paying for McDavid’s, and possibly Drai’s, education vis-a-vis crippling your own team with your salary demands.

4. Playing the slow hand on a UFA crop like this is exactly the right way to play it so kudos to PC on that – my objection is to the buyout of Pouliot this year and the sub-standard returns on trades that PC accepts.

5. Make the summer and fall last as long as possible if it keeps Drai from $9 million. The right number doesn’t exceed $8 million and should be lower.

6. If the trade was Subban and Sergachev for Drai, Nurse and Pulj… I do that trade all day long (as I get to keep Hall). I don’t remember it that way though.

7. Huge props to PuckIQ – fantastic work gentlemen. Fantastic work.

8. Team friendly numbers for McDavid and Drai are, imo, $12.25 million and $7.75 million respectively. Those numbers will let cap inflation keep the team from getting gutted over the course of the 8 years.

Side

godot10: Belichek just paid full value in the UFA free agent market for Stephan Gilmore.He also didn’t tag Hightower and let him test unrestricted free agency, just like he let McCourty, and then offered comparable deals.

But then he plays hardball when he has leverage (like with Butler), but he offered Butler a renegotition a year ago and he didn’t take it.He renegotiated with Gronk early, and just renegotiated with him again.He just renegotiated with Edelman.

Belichek knows value, and when to walk away.

You can’t offer McDavid $13.25 and then credibly offer Draisaitl only $7 million.McDavid can’t do it by himself.The difference in talent and marketing potential is NOT that great.

You can offer McDacvid $13.25 mil and Drai $7 mil. Because McDavid is McDavid and Draisaitl is Draisaitl. One is a generational talent, the other is still a relatively unknown who is producing similarly to players making $7 mil. We don’t even know if Drai is a legit #1 center yet and people want to pay him $9 mil…

You get paid by your production and you go off benchmark contracts across the league. You don’t do whatever it is that you’re talking about.

Drai at 9 mil is not value. At all. Lol

Scungilli Slushy

An excersize in trying to armchair GM with proper numbers, go to Capfriendly, armchair GM, create team, choose Oilers, pick 2018-2019.

I signed Connor at 11 and Leon at 7. I traded Nuge for picks. I used all farm players to flesh out the forwards after signing Strome to a modest raise and Letestu to 1.1M. I signed Nurse and Benning to 2.5M each. No dice.

If the cap goes up again they could squeak it out, but unless young cheap guys make major contributions they are really stripped down up front.

This makes me think first Chiarelli is taking the correct approach, and that they might have to move a defenseman to keep who they have up front even after moving Nuge for no salary back. The issue on defence is Nurse and Benning who are quality and needing raises. The folllowing year it’s JP.

This is probably the most critical summer for the team’s future until the new CBA in 2021 I think it is. Now is the time to get the deals needed in able to build strength moving forward. Leon is at the watershed right now, Connor has hopefully made a team friendly choice, everyone else moving forward will choose between max dollars and being part of a special team with league top potential.

OriginalPouzar

You can’t offer McDavid $13.25 and then credibly offer Draisaitl only $7 million.McDavid can’t do it by himself.The difference in talent and marketing potential is NOT that great.

At the same time, Drai can’t compare himself to McDavid and McDavid’s contract and disregard every other recent comparable.

LadiesloveSmid,

As much as I share your outlook, summer isn’t over yet.

Could still happen

LadiesloveSmid

LMHF#1: That’s not a particularly good hockey team.

1 good d pair.

Only 1 sure thing forward line.

Yikes.

Pretty stark without Eberle and Sekera. My summer hope was a 2RD replacement for Russell and a vet RW. Disappointed.

If Markov would take 2 X 5m (asking 2 x6m) once 97 and 29 are signed it would solve a few issues.

That’s why I hope it’s still 5 year deals for the two RFAs. Keep the cap hits lower.

LMHF#1

LadiesloveSmid:
I imagine they go 13F 8D to start the season

Maroon-McD-Drai
Lucic-RNH-Pulju
Caggiula-Strome-Slepy
Khaira-Letestu-Kassian
Pakarinen/Rattie

Klef-Lar
Russell-Benning
Nurse-Gryba
Fayne/Simpson

That’s not a particularly good hockey team.

1 good d pair.

Only 1 sure thing forward line.

Yikes.

LadiesloveSmid

Huge bets on Slepy, Strome, Pulju, Caggiula, and Benning going into next year. And a bet on a big rebound from RNH.

Hope a noteworthy addition is coming to the front and back end.

Richard S.S.

I think the biggest problem is when McDavid’s off the ice who drives the play?
The next biggest problem is who’s good enough to play with McDavid?
Who plays with the #2 driver on this team? They can’t be on the same line, it weakens the team.

I think it’s going to be a very interesting period the next 20 years.

LadiesloveSmid

I imagine they go 13F 8D to start the season

Maroon-McD-Drai
Lucic-RNH-Pulju
Caggiula-Strome-Slepy
Khaira-Letestu-Kassian
Pakarinen/Rattie

Klef-Lar
Russell-Benning
Nurse-Gryba
Fayne/Simpson

Munny

frjohnk,

For the moment, Fayne has the worst contract on the Oilers. This is, however, a moving target.

Munny

Woodguy v2.0,

Congrats! May your kudos have kudos and your bets always be winners.

frjohnk

Richard S.S.: Only one problem, Oilers must become Cap Compliant for the 2018-19 Season. Sekera and Russell would still be a year away from being tradable. Lucic would still be two years away.

Lucic has a NMC until June of 2021 ( 4 more years) in which he provides a list of 8 teams he can be traded to just for the month of June. Then his NMC kicks in again July 1, 2021 until June 1st, 2022. Then he provides a list of 10 teams will go to for the last year of the contract.

I loved the fact that we got Lucic but moving forward believe this is without a doubt the worst contract on the Oilers.

EDIT: Its also a buyout proof contract because of the signing bonuses, so if his play tails off, we either trade him with salary retained ( which could be very hard to do) or get him to wear Marian Hossa’s gear, or take a drive with Mike Richards and cross the border.

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout_calculator/milan-lucic woof!

fifthcartel

godot10: Belichek just paid full value in the UFA free agent market for Stephan Gilmore.He also didn’t tag Hightower and let him test unrestricted free agency, just like he let McCourty, and then offered comparable deals.

But then he plays hardball when he has leverage (like with Butler), but he offered Butler a renegotition a year ago and he didn’t take it.He renegotiated with Gronk early, and just renegotiated with him again.He just renegotiated with Edelman.

Belichek knows value, and when to walk away.

You can’t offer McDavid $13.25 and then credibly offer Draisaitl only $7 million.McDavid can’t do it by himself.The difference in talent and marketing potential is NOT that great.

McDavid’s only comparables were basically Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin, and Evgeni Malkin.

Giving Draisaitl close to that would be an unprecedented overpay for a player with 5 RFA years left.

I love Draisaitl, but McDavid’s deal shouldn’t change what he gets.

Richard S.S.

Only one problem, Oilers must become Cap Compliant for the 2018-19 Season. Sekera and Russell would still be a year away from being tradable. Lucic would still be two years away.

anonymous: Klefbom exemplifies good cap dollars. Not a player you dump for cap space.

Bank Shot

godot10: Jason Chimera, Fernando Pisani, Shawn Horcoff, Matthew Lombardi

Howson was the Oilers AHL GM from 1996-2000 so he wouldn’t have had input on any of those players getting drafted.

Did the Oilers acquire any AHL players 1996-2000 that went on to be NHLers?

That would be Howson’s legacy from that time period.

godot10

Side: Belichick and Epstein would not sign Draisaitl for 9 mil.

Belichek just paid full value in the UFA free agent market for Stephan Gilmore. He also didn’t tag Hightower and let him test unrestricted free agency, just like he let McCourty, and then offered comparable deals.

But then he plays hardball when he has leverage (like with Butler), but he offered Butler a renegotition a year ago and he didn’t take it. He renegotiated with Gronk early, and just renegotiated with him again. He just renegotiated with Edelman.

Belichek knows value, and when to walk away.

You can’t offer McDavid $13.25 and then credibly offer Draisaitl only $7 million. McDavid can’t do it by himself. The difference in talent and marketing potential is NOT that great.

JD_Wry

Craig Custance‏Verified account @CraigCustance

Marcus Kruger to Carolina isn’t done yet but talks pretty far along on this front. @BrianHedger first to report Vegas flipping Kruger.

anonymous

Richard S.S.:
The Oilers can pay Leon and Connor whatever they want to.But they must show some restraint as they have too many untradable big ticket Players that cannot be moved soon enough.I can see both Nuge and/or Klefbom and/orDraisaitl gone for picks after next season as the Oilers only tradable options.Cap Space is all.

Klefbom exemplifies good cap dollars. Not a player you dump for cap space.

New Improved Darkness

Lowetide: PLEASE don’t be sorry. At no point in a conversation among friends should the word sorry come up. Unless you spill coffee on my penis, then a grunt of sorrow is allowed.

Indeed, the word has its primal uses.

A Harvard study last year of the “superfluous apologizer,” for example, showed they are seen as more trustworthy. It found people were more likely to hand a stranger their phone if the request, “Can I use your phone?” was preceded by a superfluous apology, “I’m sorry about the rain.”

Of course Canadians are sorry about the rain. WTF use is rain!!! Having thus established that your life priorities are in the right place, of course I’d lend you my phone. Sheesh.

What these examples share is a sense of “sorry” that is like wearing a maple leaf on your bag.

Returning to the subject of being mugged with inclement treasure, the clumsy sod is surely “sorry” for raining on your parade and/or curdling your leaf.

———

“Omigod, Allan, I’m so dreadfully, er, uh—Allan: prmissSSSSSSSsngraaAAAAhhhntd—sorry about that.”

There follows an awkward calculation, as rushing gallantly into the breech with a sacrificial shirt tail is almost certainly not on.

In fact, the heretofore esteemed guest had best vacate the premises altogether during what shall likely prove to be an astute auctioneer’s adrenal eight-count (or else).

———

Doctor: Well, isn’t this just the strangest thing. These two dangling flaps of skin couldn’t be more complementary if they’d been laser-incised in Cooperstown. Just a moment. Which is the 8? Which is the ∞? Good thing everything is still mostly attached, so I can trace back to a positive I.D.

Esteemed guest, with a slow move to second: How many stitches you figure, doc?

Doctor: I’d say 108, give or take, er—roughly—zero.

Esteemed guest: Riiight. And you’re the presiding Rain Man at your community quilting bee, in your off hours?

Doctor: It’s just—a familiar pattern. Say, whatever got into this vicious, ball-obsessed animal’s mind?

———

Lowetide [back at home]: Bad, Ziggy, bad.

[Ten minutes later] “Lordy, whoever invented these DOGBARMED blister packs owes the world ONE HELL of a giant apology.”

Ziggy hunkers down, now thoroughly chastised.

“Oh, sorry, Ziggy. I only mean the first one. Er, two. I know you love me, but that was seriously old school.”

[Another ten minutes later] “All right, now look, Focker, I’m a patient man.”

That’s not the way one normally addresses an angry wound, but this particular wound is one sorry mess.

———

Esteemed guest: Well, it all began when I fumbled my coffee cake, and then instinctively tried to deflect it from landing jam-side-down on the velvet couch cozy with my not-so-free hand, spalding hot coffee lashed me on the wrist, I flinched toward third, and the rest is history.

Doctor: Must have been some heat.

Esteemed guest: Yeah, you should have seen the other guy.

Doctor: So that’s not the whole story, then?

Esteemed guest [who is not presently disposed to explain the whole Ziggy thing]: Yeah, I left out the count of eight, er, nine, unfortunately.

Doctor [still tweezing away at deeply embedded Fruit lint]: And …

Esteemed guest: Personally, I blame the cake.

Doctor: Why is that?

Esteemed guest: Way too tender.

Esteemed guest: OUUuuuuuuUUCH! Hey, aren’t you going to FREEZE that first?

Doctor: Oh, right you are. Sorr—

Esteemed guest: DON’T say it!

Doctor: —Sore, is it? It’s just, I got so into your stoory.

Esteemed guest: Good fake recovery.

Doctor [preparing the needle]: But for you, eventually, a real one. Red thread or black?

Esteemed guest: Aren’t you the funny one, all dressed up in white and bleeding from nowhere?

Doctor: [injecting the needle] Black, it is then. A fine choice. One lump or two?

Esteemed guest: Fuuuck, I’m so going to kill you, eventually, for real.

Doctor [removing the needle]: You do that. So here’s the thing—spare the dog, if you have one. She simply doesn’t need to see this. Even after my best repair.

Esteemed guest: Are you crazy? What would “Laddie” worry about this little Chuckie Cheevers bollocks boo-boo?

Doctor: Well, that’s what you think. Around these parts, we treat canine capisce all the damn time. You never read Cujo?

Esteemed guest: That’s just a story.

Doctor: Okay. Try that on your wife, the first time she spies your scary jawchuck.

Esteemed guest: Oh, come on. It’s just a flesh wound.

Doctor: Back when you were a child, did you ever leave a used, toy balloon in the sun—uninflated, not entirely spittle-free, until it becomes a hot, sticky mass, but—ever the optimist—you try to re-inflate it, anyway?

Esteemed guest: Don’t recall. Why do you ask?

Doctor: Well, scar tissue, it’s like that.

Esteemed guest: How so?

Doctor [pushing away mental images of a mid-term fetus becoming enveloped by its own umbilical cord]: Uh, hmmmm, never mind.

Twenty minutes of awkward silence ensue, this particular doctor being exceptionally meticulous, not one to eschew excess sinew, and more than a bit near-sighted.

Doctor [at long last, sitting comfortably erect again]: Okay flapper, you’re all fixed.

Doctor [hands esteemed guest a sorry-looking vial of greasy ointment]: Regular application will keep reparations … pliable.

Esteemed guest: Sure thing, doc. Twice daily?

Doctor: I’d say hourly, if you be thinking straight.

———

As Ian and Will Ferguson theorized in How To Be A Canadian (Even If You Already Are One), there are in fact twelve Canadian sorries: simple, essential, occupational, subservient, aristocratic, demonstrative, libidinous, ostentatious, mythical, unrepentant, sympathetic and authentic. (source)

It seems clear enough that “aristocratic”, “ostentatious”, and “unrepentant” all have their hot little handles on Red Rose, but pray tell which one is the horrified bungler’s gruff for pete rose? (Soon may it again, on its own steam.)

Side

godot10: Because that is what Draisaitl’s agents are likely doing. The NHL chose not to allow players exiting ELC to be arbitration eligible, so arbitration comparables are not the controlling comparables.

In this negotiation where Draisaitl slots into the team salary roster is more important.

Belichick and Epstein would not sign Draisaitl for 9 mil.

godot10

Side: Why are you comparing Lucic’s contract to Draisaitl? Nickel and diming Drai? On what planet is it a good idea to pay Draisaitl 9 million dollars?

Your comparisons are flaccid.

Because that is what Draisaitl’s agents are likely doing. The NHL chose not to allow players exiting ELC to be arbitration eligible, so arbitration comparables are not the controlling comparables.

In this negotiation where Draisaitl slots into the team salary roster is more important.

Side

godot10: Chiarelli can’t do anything until both McDavid and Draisaitl sign.

But if he can get them both signed for eight years ($13.25 + $9) = $22,25 million for the next eight years, he know exactly the parameters he has to work with for the foreseeable future.

Trying to nickel and dime Draisaitl is dumb.He isn’t nickel and dime-ing McDavid or Lucic or Russell or Sekera.He jumped on Talbot and signed him early.

Why are you comparing Lucic’s contract to Draisaitl? Nickel and diming Drai? On what planet is it a good idea to pay Draisaitl 9 million dollars?

Your comparisons are flaccid.

leadfarmer

frjohnk: Glad the Oilers got the most important signing done first.

You forgot Gryba. Everything was dependent on the Gryba signing

godot10

McSorley33:
After A brief perusal of the numbers, I am firmly in the camp that we are significantlyoutgunned when McDavid is off the ice….

It would appear PC is going to try to surround McDavid with young internal talent and drafted talent.

I have to think our window does not open until we get better balance up front.

Unless of course Leon surprises at 2C. I have to think our window will not be until the following year.

Chiarelli can’t do anything until both McDavid and Draisaitl sign.

But if he can get them both signed for eight years ($13.25 + $9) = $22,25 million for the next eight years, he know exactly the parameters he has to work with for the foreseeable future.

Trying to nickel and dime Draisaitl is dumb. He isn’t nickel and dime-ing McDavid or Lucic or Russell or Sekera. He jumped on Talbot and signed him early.

McSorley33

New website is amazing…..if a Luddite like me can use it. It is good.

Can’t believe how fast it is…

Richard S.S.

The Oilers can pay Leon and Connor whatever they want to. But they must show some restraint as they have too many untradable big ticket Players that cannot be moved soon enough. I can see both Nuge and/or Klefbom and/orDraisaitl gone for picks after next season as the Oilers only tradable options. Cap Space is all.

JD_Wry

Woodguy v2.0: We’ll have a download csv button soon.

Great stuff!

Woodguy v2.0: “overgrabbing”

Yeah, for some reason that wouldn’t work for me. Might be a Firefox issue for me.

McSorley33

After A brief perusal of the numbers, I am firmly in the camp that we are significantly outgunned when McDavid is off the ice….

It would appear PC is going to try to surround McDavid with young internal talent and drafted talent.

I have to think our window does not open until we get better balance up front.

Unless of course Leon surprises at 2C. I have to think our window will not be until the following year.

godot10

Draisaitl has the option of signing for one year in Europe and playing in the Olympics. It would help his outside-of-hockey marketing potential in Germany and Europe.

frjohnk

McSorley33: I am SHOCKED Scotty Howson was still available.
What a coup for the org.
1. Sign Howson
2. Sign McDavid
3. Sign Draisaitl

Glad the Oilers got the most important signing done first.

McSorley33

First time caller, does anyone know of website I can go to get hockey data?

I’ll hang up and listen, thanks.

I am SHOCKED Scotty Howson was still available.

What a coup for the org.

1. Sign Howson
2. Sign McDavid
3. Sign Draisaitl

godot10

I think Mark Streit on a one year deal would be a good idea, but Pittsburgh will probably re-sign him.

Play him 3rd pair (left shot) right D with Nurse. Replaces Sekera on PP2. Run Russell/Benning as 2nd pair.

OR

Nurse, Larsson
Klefbom, Benning
Streit, Russell

jtblack

Ducey,

“an exterminator for the bees” – made me laugh !

By all account Yak was pretty sick in Sarnia (I did not see him play) … But some of his tendancies were rather wierd for what was supposed to be an elite player …

Yak should also make us appreciate Connor and Leon. You have to pay good players, that’s how it works. I would rather paying up now, than staring at two more failed prospects … No matter what we pay Connor & Leon, the Oilers will be compettitive for the next 8 years. Love it!

godot10

hockeydb says Mitch Callahan shoots right and is a right wing.

LT…why are you putting him on the left side?

godot10

Bank Shot: Howson has been with the Oilers from 1994-2017 minus 2007-2013.

Where’s our Cam Atkinson in that time period?

Jason Chimera, Fernando Pisani, Shawn Horcoff, Matthew Lombardi

frjohnk

Woodguy v2.0: We’ll have a download csv button soon.

Also, you can grab the categories by “overgrabbing” towards the top of the page, you just have to delete out the other crap that will appear on your spread sheet.

I do it all the time.

If it does not change soon, can I ask for a refund?

godot10

rickithebear: Go back 2 years and look at the % of cap at contract signing for players in his range.
Of Even production and overall production.
For 15-16
For 16-17
For cummulative 15-16 to 16-17

Mcdavid has 2 comparables.
Croasby aprox 17.2%
Ovechkin aprox 16.9%

Two years ago is ancient history. The game has been reset with the McDavid contract.

leadfarmer

Woodguy v2.0: WOWY are coming.

I’ve had access to puckiq since January or so, and nothing is really surprising anymore.

FLA running 3 pairs with almost the same TOI vs Elite Forwards was surprising.

Pysyk and Petrovic doing very well in those minutes was a surprise too.

Ok thanks. I like your targets posts in the offseason cause it makes me look at some players closer than I would normally but you were busy with other stuff this year.

I hope Woodguy 3.0 comes with an upgraded troll ignoring function 🙂

leadfarmer

Optimism is like heroin:
leadfarmer,

one thing that stood out to me was rnh goal share vs all 3 levels of comp and they sucked hard

42.9 vs elite, 45.2 middle andonly 46.2 vs gritensity

Yeah when looking at goal share in general looking at Russell with Nuge 27.8% goalshare and Pous 38%. Cagullas 33% and Sleppys 20% really stick out. He’s over 50% with almost everyone else and over 60% with multiple players but McDavid creates a lot of that 44% without
I think other than 1C McDavid and 4C Latestube i hope to see a much better season from 2C and 3C

Woodguy v2.0

JDI:
Woodguy v2.0,

Thought I’d point this out:

After doing a search for players, I select ‘all’ on the page, and copy that into a spreadsheet, but there’s no way I can select the categories at the top of the columns.

Not sure if that’s going to be a problem for visitors to your site or not.

Also, great work and congrats!

We’ll have a download csv button soon.

Also, you can grab the categories by “overgrabbing” towards the top of the page, you just have to delete out the other crap that will appear on your spread sheet.

I do it all the time.

Woodguy v2.0

leadfarmer: When Doing the puck IQ thing anything surprise you?Or Anyone?

Any way to do WOWY type DFF%?Like get rid of McDavid icetime which screws Oilers analysis in a good way.

WOWY are coming.

I’ve had access to puckiq since January or so, and nothing is really surprising anymore.

FLA running 3 pairs with almost the same TOI vs Elite Forwards was surprising.

Pysyk and Petrovic doing very well in those minutes was a surprise too.

leadfarmer

Woodguy v2.0: I’ll wait until October, but if the roster is as as it stands I’m interested

When Doing the puck IQ thing anything surprise you? Or Anyone?
Any way to do WOWY type DFF%? Like get rid of McDavid icetime which screws Oilers analysis in a good way.

I’ll post this again

Woodguy v2.0

bendelson: If and when you are ready to place a friendly wager on that Darcy… you be sure to let me know!
(Nice to see you back)

I’ll wait until October, but if the roster is as as it stands I’m interested

Woodguy v2.0

VOR,

Thanks Vor.

Thanks to everyone for their well wishes.