MORE BRUINIZATION?

by Lowetide

If you want the God’s honest I wasn’t the least surprised to see Milan Lucic arrive in Edmonton as an Oiler. He is a unique player, Peter Chiarelli’s first media avail mentioned “hard” and “heavy” more often than an AC/DC lyric. However, my second choice, after Lucic, would not have been David Pastrnak.

https://twitter.com/brianlawton9/status/897182106966773760

The Boston Bruins would be flat out nuts to trade David Pastrnak and frankly I very much doubt it happens. If he is available, it behooves Peter Chiarelli to pursue a trade with extreme prejudice. Pastrnak as first-person shooter on McDavid’s line would be epic. The Bruins player I thought Chiarelli would acquire? David Krejci. However, the big ticket contract and flagging production probably disqualifies a deal (not to mention the NMC). Dealing for Krejci now would probably take Nuge, and set up something close to a Rick Middleton-for-Ken Hodge future (possibly).

STROME GONE WILD!!

I see people talking about the Ryan Strome 70-point projection and wonder why there’s such an uproar. Above you see my RE projections for forwards, which is far different than The Forecaster (I think it’s the Forecaster) and what they’re trying to do.

My projections are based on Connor McDavid playing 70 percent of his season with Leon Draisaitl, about 60 with Patrick Maroon (no time on No. 1 PP for Maroon), and then the rest with Strome, Lucic and Nuge. Maybe a little for Jokinen. It’s a giant hedge from scorers No. 3 through No. 7.

The Forecaster can’t do that, they have to make a decision and it’s important they get it right. They could be wrong, but credit them for having the courage of their convictions. I don’t envy them and sure as hell won’t mock them. Tough thing to do, mind reading. Me, I’d try to figure out what the coach trusts and then go with that projection.

PROJECTED CONDORS

  • We talked yesterday about college signings, I think the center position (skill division) is the one area we might see an addition.
  • Corey Pronman has his Organizational Prospect Pipelines ranking out and the Oilers have fallen from No. 8 to No. 28. Pronman mentions Kailer Yamamoto and some defensive depth. My Top 20 list includes Jesse Puljujarvi but Pronman’s general point is correct, this organization badly needs an infusion of top end prospects.
  • That’s one reason why I was pleased with the 2017 draft. Edmonton tried to hit home runs with skill in taking Kailer Yamamoto, Ostap Safin and Kirill Maksimov. It’s the kind of draft I can get behind, and represents a complete departure from the Mitch Moroz-Jujhar Khaira draft.
  • Although the Oilers prospect cupboard is not strong, the draft/procurement department has delivered some fantastic rookie classes in recent seasons.

LAST FIVE ROOKIE CLASSES

  • 2012-13: Nail Yakupov, Justin Schultz, Chris VandeVelde. A pair of talented if one-dimensional players whose only crime was arriving at a time when the organization couldn’t offer them a situation in which to flourish. I wonder what would have happened it Ralph Krueger hadn’t been skyped.
  • 2013-14: Mark Arcobello, Martin Marincin, Luke Gazdic, Taylor Fedun, Brad Hunt. Kind of a low ebb among these fantastic rookie clusters, Martin Marincin is a more effective player than he is given credit for by the vast majority of fans (in my opinion).
  • 2014-15: Oscar Klefbom, Leon Draisaitl, Andrew Miller, Tyler Pitlick, David Musil, Curtis Hamilton, Bogdan Yakimov. A brilliant pair (Oscar and Leon) of rookies arrive the same season, and both have grown quickly into major foundation pieces for this young and talented Oilers team.
  • 2015-16: Connor McDavid, Iiro Pakarinen, Brandon Davidson, Darnell Nurse, Adam Clendening, Jordan Oesterle, Griffin Reinhart.  The mother lode that is Connor McDavid also brought five rookie defensemen of varying quality and the Finn Pakarinen. A franchise altering rookie crop and in many ways the year the clocks began to keep time again for Oilers fans.
  • 2016-17: Drake Caggiula, Matt Benning, Anton Slepyshev, Jesse Puljujarvi, Jujhar Khaira, Dillon Simpson. This could be a strong crop but we’ll have to wait and see on many of these names. Benning arrived complete (easy assembly!) and the promise of Puljujarvi, Slepyshev and Caggiula may have a major impact on the future.

From 2014-17, that’s a fantastic cluster of young talent. The addition of Matt Benning gets forgotten but it was a big deal. Notice the massive number of names turned over from the 2012-14 lists as Peter Chiarelli basically sent away everyone but Oscar and Leon. That’s typical of a new manager. Seriously. I don’t have Kailer Yamamoto included in my RE, but there’s a good chance he plays some NHL games this fall.

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slopitch

As for bruinization, I still see Chara as a decent option. 1 year left on his deal. Not sure what he’d cost or what he’s worth for that matter.

OriginalPouzar

Lowetide: I think Puljujarvi may have been handled differently because of Leon’s handling, yes.

Sorry if I wasn’t clear – do you think that Leon could be bitter because of how JP was handled in a similar situation?

Don’t mind me

OriginalPouzar: Lowetide: I bet Draisaitl doesn’t feel that way.
You could be right and, if that’s the case, I’d be very disappointed in my favorite forward.
Do you suggest this because JP was treated a bit differently last year?

OriginalPouzar: It was a different manager – come on Leon.

If you are determined to have hard feelings for what happened in the past you will never be happy unless you forgive. If he can’t let it go he’s gots to go.

Jethro Tull

Georges: And $8M is kinda at that level where your production shouldn’t be hyper sensitive to who you play with.

This is a thread winner right here.

Georges

Yak was about a point a game player with CMD before the PHI game. Too bad for his future contracts he didn’t get to play with CMD after that.

The Oilers were very good to Drai in terms of his line mates in the last 2 seasons. He’s in a position to ask for the money he’s asking for as much because of who he got to play with as how effective he was while playing with them. And $8M is kinda at that level where your production shouldn’t be hyper sensitive to who you play with. Drai’s case isn’t strong here.

Is there another team in the league that would roll the dice on Drai for $8M for 8 years? Maybe we do it because we have CMD and Drai looks like he could be a strong #2. But does he look like a #1?

As for killing the Ducks, godot is overlooking very important -1’s in games 5 and 7. If Drai had led the Oilers to the Finals while CMD struggled, then, yeah, back up the Brinks trucks. But he didn’t.

OriginalPouzar

Lowetide: I bet Draisaitl doesn’t feel that way.

You could be right and, if that’s the case, I’d be very disappointed in my favorite forward.

Do you suggest this because JP was treated a bit differently last year?

It was a different manager – come on Leon.

Jethro Tull

Lowetide: Backlund is outstanding, just a crazy good player.

Just a bit of banter with Cam, hope he takes that way, if not, then i will stop now. I was enjoying the back and forth.

But let’s call a spade a spade. Backlund is a good 2nd line center, excellent 3rd line on a team with outstanding defensive but dubious forward depth (the oilers are polar opposite). Nothing about him is outstanding, however, it’s just who he is. An actual NHL player, which is an accomplishment in itself.

Jethro Tull

Cameron: Backlund crushes the river against top comp every night and posts good offense to boot.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=104255

Are we talking about the same Backlund that crushed it like Mr Burns crushes a paper cup with 53pts last year?

Nuge has never broke 50pts, while Backlund has done it year after year, so you got me there.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=117125

stush18

Cameron,

THe only arguement I would make for nuge vs monohan is the amount of time he played against elites via wood money.

Depending on how much stock you put into it, he was buried.

But I like the flames up the middle, IF Bennett steps up.

Cameron

Jethro Tull: OK, I’ll just do the pacific division:

Monahan would probably be 1st line center on: Vegas, Arizona, Calgary

He would have to beat out Hank Sedin in Vancouver.

In SJ, Couture, Thornton, Pavelski

Edm, McD, Drai, Nuge

At ANA, Getzlaf and Kesler

And in LA, Kopitar and Carter.

There is not one player, save maybe Hank for age and Nuge because I’m a fanboy, that I would place Monahan over and this is just the Pacific.He is a good 2nd line/ soft parade center.Bennett couldn’t get it done against the soft parade last year.I hope he improves, but someone in Cowtown other than Jonny has to start playing with the puck and not trying to knock everyone into next week.

What you guys do have, is an excellent d corps and system allowing the forwards to be below average.Mark, TJ, Hammy and now Hammy 2, will be the only difference between this team and the shite the Oilers put out for 10 years.Two or three good forwards and the rest barely AHL caliber.

Let’s flip the narrative a little, Backlund crushes the river against top comp every night and posts good offense to boot. I agreee Monahan is a weak #1, but Backlund is a destroyer of worlds as a #2, and with Frolik and Tkachuk formed arguably the best possession line in the league. Calgary’s got a wicked shutdown line, and a decent coring line, if Bennett can round out a third line that saws off its comp, they have a solid three lines.

As for Nuge v Monahan or Backlund? I think that is a losing argument for you on the #s.

Side

godot10: The Oilers obviously think he is as good as Cam Talbot, since they gave the same term and approximately the same money.

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OriginalPouzar

Lowetide: If my boss cut me a day before a raise was coming down, I would never forget it.

Did he ensure that you paid an insane amount of money (apx $450K) compared to what you would have got if he had cut you two months earlier like he could have (should have)?

Also, different boss (same company).

OriginalPouzar

oilfan17: I don’t think the issue for Leon (if there is one)is being sent down to the WHL. It’s about when he was sent down– on the morning before the Oilers’ 40th game.

They sent him down the day before Game 40 to prevent him from accruing the season, costing him a year of free agency.

As for Year 2, I don’t know what’ ‘ issues’ caused him to be sent to Bakersfield. He had a great training camp. He wasn’t down there long enough to light it up in any case.

If Leon is bitter about that, two years later, I will lose respect for him.

Come on Leon, you understand this is a business.

The Oilers kept you in the NHL and you earned apx. $475K instead of the per diem you would have got in the WHL had they sent you back right away.

That 40 games on the roster threshold for a UFA year is huge – they needed to do that or the GM would have been chastised by the fanbase.

OriginalPouzar

verite:
Liut is pure evil. He will only hurt the OIlers by making Draistal unaffordable and alienated.
Time is of the essence.
Either settle or trade him.

Time is of the essence but that starts in September.

Agents, managers, etc. are on vacation. They will pick this up after labor day and finalize it before camp.

Important words: Before camp.

Jethro Tull

Lowetide: We’ll see, seems as though Draisaitl and Liut have some leverage with Chiarelli or the deal would be done one way or another by now.

If Drai and/or his agent are still smarting over that after Drai hit his very generous bonuses last year and they want to get back at ‘The Man’ by sticking the team for a few mill more, and, ironically, extended term (because there’s nothing like getting an 8yr contract that you screwed your team for to really make you a fan and locker room favourite), then i would suggest we wish him and his new GM luck. Particularly his new GM.

godot10

Side: Based on this, are you trying to tell me that Kris Russell is equally as good as Cam Talbot because they both make $4 million this year?

I was opposed to signing Kris Russell for anything more than a one year deal, so I clearly don’t believe that. The Oilers obviously think he is as good as Cam Talbot, since they gave the same term and approximately the same money.

Jethro Tull

godot10: McDavid got $12.5 milion for 8 years after sh#$%$@ the bed against Anaheim, both in the regular season and playoffs.Draisaitl is only asking (probably) for $8 something for eight years after killing the Ducks in the regular season and playoffs, finishing top ten in scoring.

The Oilers seem to be arguing that McDavid is twice as good as you, while Draisaitl is taking the more reasonable position that he is at least 2/3rds as good as McDavid, and at least twice as good as Russell.

So your pay can only be based on arbitrary performances picked by you at random during the season and the playoffs? Didn’t McDavid win some kind of award or two last year? You drive a hard bargain my friend!

Jethro Tull

Cameron:
Jethro Tull,

RexLibris,

I’m not saying Calgary has Malkin-Crosby-Staal as a spine, but running a 30G scorer,a possession monster / Selke candidate, and Bennett (sans Brouwer) is not IMO ‘weak down the middle’.

The key will be Bennett taking a step forward. If he really is maxed out, then ‘yes’ the Flames are not strong at C.But if he’s a 40 point guy with positive possession numbers, it’s suddenly a strength.

Watch to see who his linemates are. If he gets chained to Brouwer again, he’ll be in trouble, if not, I bet he soars.

OK, I’ll just do the pacific division:

Monahan would probably be 1st line center on: Vegas, Arizona, Calgary

He would have to beat out Hank Sedin in Vancouver.

In SJ, Couture, Thornton, Pavelski

Edm, McD, Drai, Nuge

At ANA, Getzlaf and Kesler

And in LA, Kopitar and Carter.

There is not one player, save maybe Hank for age and Nuge because I’m a fanboy, that I would place Monahan over and this is just the Pacific. He is a good 2nd line/ soft parade center. Bennett couldn’t get it done against the soft parade last year. I hope he improves, but someone in Cowtown other than Jonny has to start playing with the puck and not trying to knock everyone into next week.

What you guys do have, is an excellent d corps and system allowing the forwards to be below average. Mark, TJ, Hammy and now Hammy 2, will be the only difference between this team and the shite the Oilers put out for 10 years. Two or three good forwards and the rest barely AHL caliber.

Side

Lowetide: If my boss cut me a day before a raise was coming down, I would never forget it.

If the boss who cut you a day before you were to receive your raise was fired, would you hold it against your new boss?

I don’t know how much leverage Drai and his agent have with Drai’s handling in year 1 under MacT when discussing a contract with Pete.

Side

Pink Socks: By this reasoning, Draisaitl shat the bed vs the Sharks then. Didn’t Leon also have a 7 game pointless streak at the start of the season?

I don’t get the twice as good as Russell and McD being twice as good logic.It doesn’t make sense, variable roles, contributing factors, etc, but rather a league wide comparable.Tarasenko seems to me to be the closest to Drai, I think that’s a fair statement to put them in the same category.Tarasenko , signed at 24 so more UFA years, adjust for inflation, I think Drai belongs in the $7.5m-$8m.More than $8m is a huge overpay.

Agreed.

Draisaitl’s production is closer to Tarasenko’s than McDavid’s. So why are people trying to base Draisaitl’s contract off of McDavid’s?

If we do the ‘Draisaitl is 2/3 as good as McDavid’ exercise, then what would happen if McDavid did get the max contract at $15 million?

godot would you argue that Drai would be worth the $9.9 million a year since Drai is 2/3 of McDavid if McDavid got $15 million a year?

Pink Socks

godot10: McDavid got $12.5 milion for 8 years after sh#$%$@ the bed against Anaheim, both in the regular season and playoffs.Draisaitl is only asking (probably) for $8 something for eight years after killing the Ducks in the regular season and playoffs, finishing top ten in scoring.

The Oilers seem to be arguing that McDavid is twice as good as you, while Draisaitl is taking the more reasonable position that he is at least 2/3rds as good as McDavid, and at least twice as good as Russell.

By this reasoning, Draisaitl shat the bed vs the Sharks then. Didn’t Leon also have a 7 game pointless streak at the start of the season?

I don’t get the twice as good as Russell and McD being twice as good logic. It doesn’t make sense, variable roles, contributing factors, etc, but rather a league wide comparable. Tarasenko seems to me to be the closest to Drai, I think that’s a fair statement to put them in the same category. Tarasenko , signed at 24 so more UFA years, adjust for inflation, I think Drai belongs in the $7.5m-$8m. More than $8m is a huge overpay.

Side

godot10:

The Oilers seem to be arguing that McDavid is twice as good as you, while Draisaitl is taking the more reasonable position that he is at least 2/3rds as good as McDavid, and at least twice as good as Russell.

Based on this, are you trying to tell me that Kris Russell is equally as good as Cam Talbot because they both make $4 million this year?

oilfan17

flyfish1168: Very good point. But if Leon looked at what he accomplished during the WHL playoffs and being the MC MVP it was the right call. It was a great confidence builder. Besides was it different management that made that decision to send him down?

His 2nd year when he sent down to the AHL he had issues with also. Not like he light it up down there. Interesting character.

I don’t think the issue for Leon (if there is one)is being sent down to the WHL. It’s about when he was sent down– on the morning before the Oilers’ 40th game.

They sent him down the day before Game 40 to prevent him from accruing the season, costing him a year of free agency.

As for Year 2, I don’t know what’ ‘ issues’ caused him to be sent to Bakersfield. He had a great training camp. He wasn’t down there long enough to light it up in any case.

verite

Liut is pure evil. He will only hurt the OIlers by making Draistal unaffordable and alienated.
Time is of the essence.
Either settle or trade him.

godot10

Jethro Tull: True, but Old Man Tull once sat me on his knee and said, “son, respect goes two ways and it is always earned, like trust.”

McDavid got $12.5 milion for 8 years after sh#$%$@ the bed against Anaheim, both in the regular season and playoffs. Draisaitl is only asking (probably) for $8 something for eight years after killing the Ducks in the regular season and playoffs, finishing top ten in scoring.

The Oilers seem to be arguing that McDavid is twice as good as you, while Draisaitl is taking the more reasonable position that he is at least 2/3rds as good as McDavid, and at least twice as good as Russell.

OriginalPouzar

MacT made some really great (mis)judgement calls on Petry, Dubnyk, and Kreuger/Eakins.

Disagree on Dubnyk – yes, of course, we all know that he eventually turned in to one of the best goalies in the league but he simply wasn’t good enough in Edmonton. His save percentage in its up years was not reflective of his Roloson-like ability to give up soft goals at terrible times consistently.

I’m happy for Devan – he seems like a great guy and I’m glad he’s found his game – with that said, he needed to go.

I’m sure confidence is a huge factor in this and, frankly, he was never going to regain his confidence as an Oiler.

Lets not forget forget, he was given away by both Nashville and Montreal after he left Edmonton.

OriginalPouzar

Jethro Tull: True, but Old Man Tull once sat me on his knee and said, “son, respect goes two ways and it is always earned, like trust.”

Now, do we think that A) both sides are on the phone tirelessly working a deal in proposal, counter-proposal, give and take; or B) Both have made unreasonable demands and are waiting to see who blinks first?Which is more likely?

I would say its option (C) – its August, managers and agents are on vacation, this will be picked up again in September and finalized before camp.

OriginalPouzar

who:
Trading a JP/Nurse package for Patranak doesn’t make any sense to me. We can’t afford any more big contracts and neither one of these players has hit their ceiling.
A Drai for Pastranak trade is just bad asset management. Always keep the center if the skill level is similar. I really think we are just fine at right wing,and if not I expect Chia to fix it in season

Given our cap situation, where we are going is the recent PIT model up front of rotating wingers in the top 9 who outperform their contracts, value contracts.

While Pastarnak would be wonderful on Connor’s right said, I can’t see any way that we can afford him (while keeping Drai).

If we are going to explore this, to me, we look at Nuge as piece one going out:

1) we likely have to move him anyways
2) Drai is clearly 2C if we have Pastarnak as 1RW
3) we keep Nurse and JP which will be cheaper contracts and likely to be value over the course of the next few years.

I still don’t think it works for the cap starting next year (depending on what pieces go out with Nuge) but we can do that trade for this year and figure out the cap next spring/summer.

Cameron

Jethro Tull,

RexLibris,

I’m not saying Calgary has Malkin-Crosby-Staal as a spine, but running a 30G scorer, a possession monster / Selke candidate, and Bennett (sans Brouwer) is not IMO ‘weak down the middle’.

The key will be Bennett taking a step forward. If he really is maxed out, then ‘yes’ the Flames are not strong at C.But if he’s a 40 point guy with positive possession numbers, it’s suddenly a strength.

Watch to see who his linemates are. If he gets chained to Brouwer again, he’ll be in trouble, if not, I bet he soars.

flyfish1168

Lowetide: I think Leon didn’t like his handling in year one, where the Oilers sent him out for a specific reason. I expect at some level there are still some hard feelings and a sense of mistrust from his side. That may be part of the disconnect imo.

Very good point. But if Leon looked at what he accomplished during the WHL playoffs and being the MC MVP it was the right call. It was a great confidence builder. Besides was it different management that made that decision to send him down?

His 2nd year when he sent down to the AHL he had issues with also. Not like he light it up down there. Interesting character.

RexLibris

Cameron,

The Flames’ roster at C is wide but not deep. They have two 2Cs in Monahan and Backlund, the former who earns roughly 1/3rd of his points on the PP and the former who had a career season and broke 50 pts for the first time.

Bennett is stalled in his development and while he plays the game well, I think he is headed in the direction of being more suited to the W than C at this stage.

W for C is difficult, of course, but targeting Duchene would’ve been the right move, in my opinion. Hamonic and Gaudreau for Duchene and Barrie might’ve caught Sakic’s eye.

As for Jankowski, I’ve still got him pegged as a 3rd line W for now, and look forward to seeing the results from this season to see how that might change.

frjohnk

Lowetide: I think Leon didn’t like his handling in year one, where the Oilers sent him out for a specific reason. I expect at some level there are still some hard feelings and a sense of mistrust from his side. That may be part of the disconnect imo.

They also sent him down in year 2. McClellan or Chia said that Sleppy was more ready than Drai (Im paraphrasing here) Drai probably didnt like that either.

Also he may have heard that in year 2, he was riding Halls coat tails and in year 3 he was riding McDavids.

And if the Oilers are using the angle of ” well, Leon, other than a handful of games away from Hall and McDavid, you really have not pushed the offense, so here is a contract that reflects that”

I hope it does not end ugly with Draisaitl feeling like he is the Rodney Dangerfield of the Oilers.

Pink Socks

Thinker:
I also think Yak’s knee injury in his draft year was a bigger deal. I think he lost a step from that. Doesn’t explain his first year in the nhl, but his splits in his draft year were pretty stark. Watching him in junior, he was a lot like Jon White on skates.

It is such a shame we can’t go back in time to shock the hockey world and draft Hampus Lindholm 1st overall.

OmJo

Ducey:
2012-13: Nail Yakupov, Justin Schultz, Chris VandeVelde. A pair of talented if one-dimensional players whose only crime was arriving at a time when the organization couldn’t offer them a situation in which to flourish. I wonder what would have happened it Ralph Krueger hadn’t been skyped

Toe Blake could have coached Yak. It wouldn’t have mattered. Hitchcock couldn’t sort him out. Neither could Yeo.

Million dollar shot, ten cent hockey sense.

Perhaps the worst #1 overall, ever?

At least Katz stays out of hockey decisions now.

I feel like if Microsoft did to Skype what they did to Nokia we wouldn’t be asking that question.

MacT made some really great (mis)judgement calls on Petry, Dubnyk, and Kreuger/Eakins.

Jethro Tull

Lowetide: I would also argue “respect” is a reasonable answer to the first question.

True, but Old Man Tull once sat me on his knee and said, “son, respect goes two ways and it is always earned, like trust.”

Now, do we think that A) both sides are on the phone tirelessly working a deal in proposal, counter-proposal, give and take; or B) Both have made unreasonable demands and are waiting to see who blinks first? Which is more likely?

Chachi

Cameron,

Best of luck to the Flames this year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdUcm1cBMcE

OmJo

OriginalPouzar:
I have seen quite a few predictions that have a dramatic spike in the production for both Drai and Strome (80 plus or even 90 plus points for Leon and 60 plus points (if not 70 plus) for Strome).

To me, those predictions presume that both Leon and Strome will play almost the entire year as 1RW which, obviously, can’t happen.

I won’t talk too much about the Pastarnak possibility – it would be amazing but I just can’t see it happening – what would the Oiler acquisition cost be relative to the cost for a non-Chiarelli team? Its a silly way to manage but the Dougie Hamilton trade showed us the pettiness of the current Bruin management team.

Even if the Bruins have a guilty conscience for “stealing” our second round pick and giving our arch enemy Hamilton for less, would we be able to afford him? Reports are he’s waiting for Draisaitl to sign, so I don’t see us being a fit in a trade with Boston.

Even if we trade him for Draisaitl, he might end up costing just as much, and we’d be in the same boat as now (waiting for our last unsigned RFA).

Jethro Tull

Cameron,

Cam, i say this with the greatest of respect: The Flames are weak at C. Monahan is roughly equivalent to Nuge in point production. Nuge might well be the #1 C for the Flames, edging Mono in experience.

Jethro Tull

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/oilers-leon-draisaitl-beyond-foolish-part-ways/

“Why on earth would the player ever want to play elsewhere? And why would the team ever allow him to do so?”

Spector asks two questions in one sentence, in one paragraph and the answer to both is one word: Money.

Cameron

RexLibris: That would be the wisest move for CGY. Not sure Shero does it, though. Gaudreau is likely at his peak right now, in terms of production. Moving him now to address C depth would be the best idea, but failing that, going for a dominant possession player like Hall who could then float Monahan. But, like I said, if they just keep sinking money into the wings, that’s fine by me.

I’m a big fan of ‘build up the middle’, but I don’t see C as Calgary’s weak spot (that would be in goal).
Jankowski, a 6’4″, fast, C, with ‘fear my wingspan’ skills, who had excellent 5×5 stats in the AHL last year is likely going to make the team at RW because the C spots are already spoken for.

The key is Bennett. when he’s de-coupled from Brouwer, his stats were very nice, but with him, he was a tire fire. If the Flames bury Brouwer, and give Bennett some PP, his stats will zoom. Calgary has two big questions this year, how good is Sam Bennett,? And is Mike Smith really the answer in net? (The answers are; ‘He’s going to be very, very, good’, and ‘No’)

So even if Calgary did move Gaudreau for a C (and that just begs the question of who? W for C swaps are rare for a reason), where would they play? Monahan and Backlund are locking down two spots, and Stajan is the right fit for #4, so they would have to be obviously better than Bennett or Jankowski will be, and neither of them are anywhere near their ceilings yet.

Lastly, if Calgary was going to do a deal for a C (say Duchene), the price will be paid using the coin of the realm; cost controlled D prospects (in which the Flames are flush).

stush18

Centre of attention,

The issue with sending JP and a first is you wreck your cap situation. Doesn’t work unless you send out a contract.

You also lose a potential value contract for the mcdavid years ala Yamamoto (hopefully).

I love the player but I can’t see anything making sense.

Gayfish

I also think Yak’s knee injury in his draft year was a bigger deal. I think he lost a step from that. Doesn’t explain his first year in the nhl, but his splits in his draft year were pretty stark. Watching him in junior, he was a lot like Jon White on skates.