See the sky about to rain

by Lowetide

Smart hockey people tell us to watch the AHL kids in two parts: October through December and then January to April. Idea being it takes some time to settle in. We have the entire bucket from the first half and seven games of the second half. How are things going?

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THE CONDORS THREE

Caleb Jones has the fastest boots, giving him an edge and perhaps a quicker route to the NHL. Bear and Mantha have offensive potential, both men possessing massive shots from the point. I don’t think any of these gents is likely to spend much or any time in the NHL before the end of  the season, but all three have some good arrows and a story to tell. Jones has turned a corner in January, we’ll check in a little later. One curio? Keegan Lowe. He was 21-17 through end December and is 8-1 in January, for an EV GF-GA total of 29-18 on the season (this is Eric Rodgers’ work and then me counting things up in the seven January games). There is a relationship between Lowe and good runs from Bear and Jones.

CONDORS F

Jeff Veillette is a fine writer, a good person and a man who asks unique questions and then goes in search of an answer. That’s my kind of guy. He recently wrote a bible on the AHL and teams who are getting a lot of value out of their minor league teams. As you might guess, the Oilers are doing it wrong. Veillette’s measuring stick is (among other things) games played by age, with the prime group age 18 to 23.

The Edmonton defensemen are fine, Oilers have 61.7 percent of their total GP tied up in players aged 18-23, a number that ranks Bakersfield No. 10 among all AHL teams. Good number.

The forwards? Another story. Bakersfield’s F troop grabbed just 28.4 percent of the overall games played this year. That’s awful. Is that Peter Chiarelli’s fault? Let’s have a look. In order for it to be Chiarelli’s fault, the ‘window’ of forwards who could be included in the study would have to be drafted inside his time with Edmonton. That’s only partially true. The age 18-23 model is basically everyone in an entry-level deal, and since someone drafted in 2013 is in the final year of his entry deal, let’s look at forwards from the 2013-18 drafts.

  • 2013 (MacT, Stu MacGregor). Marco Roy, Bogdan Yakimov and Anton Slepyshev all made it to pro, although Roy on an AHL-only deal. Yakimov is in the KHL, didn’t take a liking to the AHL. Slepyshev is about to get traded, I think he should be regarded as a success. Jackson Houck and Evan Campbell didn’t work out, but Edmonton signed Kyle Platzer and Greg Chase, both of whom have played in the AHL for the Condors this season.
  • 2014 (MacT, Stu MacGregor). Leon Draisaitl was a lottery pick, after that the Oilers curiously went walkabout with tier two players Liam Coughlin and Tyler Vesel. Both men remain in college.
  • 2015 (Chiarelli, Bob Green). Connor McDavid was the only forward chosen.
  • 2016 (Chiarelli, Bob Green). Jesse Puljujarvi was chosen in the lottery, signed and would be considered a success in the Veillette study.

I think Chiarelli can be ticketed for dealing all of those 2015 picks, but the bizarre draft behaviour in 2014 and the poor quality of the 2013 selections have the Oilers here. Plenty of blame to go around. One area that I don’t believe should come under heavy criticism? The scouts. You can’t blame the scouts for trading No. 16 and No. 33, in fact the only area since 2015 where the scouts appear to have gone walkabout is 2016 third round (although I am bullish on Filip Berglund). Any hoo, the Oilers haven’t drafted enough forwards and will need to add some names to Kailer Yamamoto and Tyler Benson for the fall.

INCOMING?

  • Bruce Garrioch: The talk among league insiders is the San Jose Sharks, Florida Panthers, Winnipeg Jets, Pittsburgh Penguins, New Jersey Devils, Vancouver Canucks, Edmonton Oilers and Anaheim Ducks may all be in the market for a forward at the deadline. Source

Oilers clearly won’t be in the market for an expiring contract, but the Senators have several interesting options. I’ve written about Mike Hoffman and his skill set being a strong match for Connor McDavid, but Jean-Gabriel Pageau would be an excellent pickup who could help in all areas. The Senators want to offload dollars. If Ottawa is listening, the Oilers need to be pitching. I wonder if Dion Phaneuf is part of a deal? And no, I’m not trying to scare you, just looking at things from the other side.

TYLER BENSON

Tyler Benson has been held without a point for the last three games, no biggie but one worries about injury recurrence. Benson was in Edmonton recently, and spoke to Tyler Yaremchuk about his situation, mentioning soreness at that time. Just the rigors of a long season? We wait.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Magical NFL weekend, trade deadline, Canada’s best NHL team.
  • Ryan Holt, Condors PBP. How are the kids doing down on the farm?

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OmJo

Thinker: In fact very few adult men are that size.

Lol hey, I’m that size 🙁

Well, an inch taller and 2lbs heavier.

Extend Russell

This in from a hawks fan/moderator

Honestly it’s getting ridiculous when certain “fans” in groups on Facebook are b*tching about how it’s Toews fault the Hawks are struggling. Well how about looking everywhere else on the team and the fact Crow is hurt. Funny how our fanbase can turn on our players and want to get rid of them all of a sudden like winning cups doesn’t matter anymore. To you fans who blame our captain and the guys who brought us a cup you can just leave and bandwagon someone else.

Also, props to #LooseCanon for the #dank assist. #thank homie

I take a small amount of pleasure in knowing it’s not just happening here
Hawks will be fine
Oil will be fine.

Ottawa? Nsm

Scungilli Slushy

Lowetide: Is PC the guy for that job?

frjohnk: If its Chia or whoever, moving forward, the Oiler GM sure has less wiggle room for mistakes in trades, UFA signings, RFA signings and drafting than when Chia took over right after the McDavid lottery win.

I’ve given PC rope but I am seriously wondering now if he has any idea what/who helps winning. As many have commented he likes trading away his best players. He won’t trade Connor but it takes more than one guy to win in hockey.

frjohnk

Lowetide: The Oilers have a talent gap, at the NHL level and bubbling under………The club is going to have to dig out from under. Waivers, draft, astute trades. Patience. Is PC the guy for that job?

The guy that was at the helm for when the talent gap was stripped and thereby kneecapped the ceiling of how good this team could be, is going to be the one who repairs it?

Not sure how, but Id love to see it. As much as I would like to see the cannon loaded, Id much rather see the ship righted even if it means its still with Chia. Just want to see the team win.

If its Chia or whoever, moving forward, the Oiler GM sure has less wiggle room for mistakes in trades, UFA signings, RFA signings and drafting than when Chia took over right after the McDavid lottery win.

OriginalPouzar

meanashell11: Again, there is a lockout coming. There will be buyout opportunities where we can get out of these handcuffs.

As for the rest of the season, if I am being realistic they are not going to make it but I will still watch every game!

Again, signing a contract with the hope that there will be the opportunity to get out from under it about half way through is a bad signing.

To the immediate point, yes, probably a lockout – not for sure (you never know) but probably.

Lets say there is a lockout, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the agreed upon CBA will include compliance buyouts – that was negotiated in the past but may not be part of the new CBA. If it is, maybe there is only one permitted and maybe we want to use that on Lucic. Maybe there negotiated terms don’t let the team off the hook completely, etc.

Anyways, the fact that 3 months in to the contract (as was predicted immediately upon signing) we are looking for ways to get out of it shows that it was a bad signing.

Some have the position that “the Russell contract” isn’t the problem but its the Lucic contract or the Drai contract, etc.

Fair enough but its another factor in the cap issues and it was signed with full knowledge of the cap crunch coming up and after the other contracts were on the books – it piled on at a time where the organization could not afford it.

Snowman

The fact is not every team passed on Barzal. In fact, at the top of the draft you can argue a lot of those players were good picks for where they were taken. There are definitely a few teams that whiffed before Barzal was picked. But you cannot say that every team passed.

NYI didn’t pass. They moved up to get him.

And yes you can say that the Oilers were going to take Ek or Svechnikov. You can also still ask why they didn’t have Barzal in that spot. It’s a reasonable question. It should be asked.

You should especially be asking that if you are the GM of a team with a spotty drafting record.

It’s ok to question why the Oilers weren’t going to take Barzal and also acknowledge that some other teams failed to identify him. If the Oilers aren’t having a big pow-wow to figure out why they miss when they do than they really are a horribly run organization who deserves what it gets.

meanashell11

OriginalPouzar: 1) We need the cap space (and the improvement in the 2nd pair) next year.I’m patient and we’ll have to wait for it but it would be nice to have some more flexibility this off-season

2) Signing a player to a 4 year contract thinking that is tradeable in 2 years if half the cap hit is retained is the sign of a bad contract.

Again, there is a lockout coming. There will be buyout opportunities where we can get out of these handcuffs.

As for the rest of the season, if I am being realistic they are not going to make it but I will still watch every game!

OriginalPouzar

Every draft – I mean why did every team pass of Colton Parayko 2 or 3 times back in 2012?

hunter1909

OriginalPouzar: This may be true but that does’t relieve the management and scouting team of culpability.

The question to ask is why they wouldn’t have drafted Barzal who had fallen in the draft.

On the other end, why did he fall (injury plus WJCH)?Its not like we were going to be the only team to pass on him as he slid.

Just think if they had the internet in the 80’s. Nearly 40 years ago every team in the NHL could be crying why didn’t they pick Messier.

OriginalPouzar

Fuge Udvar: It turns into a partial NMC after next year. After that Russel submits a list of 10 teams for 2019-20 season and a 15 team list in 2020-21. We should be able to offload Russel pretty easily if we retain 2 million even with a 10 team list. It wasn’t a smart move but I don’t think it will be as a big of an anchor as people think. Hopefully one of the young D will be pushing him out by then.

1) We need the cap space (and the improvement in the 2nd pair) next year. I’m patient and we’ll have to wait for it but it would be nice to have some more flexibility this off-season

2) Signing a player to a 4 year contract thinking that is tradeable in 2 years if half the cap hit is retained is the sign of a bad contract.

OriginalPouzar

Fuge Udvar:
Younger Oil,

All reports at the time were saying we were picking Svechnikov in that spot. Even if we didn’t trade those picks we would never have had Barzal. I see people saying this all the time

This may be true but that does’t relieve the management and scouting team of culpability.

The question to ask is why they wouldn’t have drafted Barzal who had fallen in the draft.

On the other end, why did he fall (injury plus WJCH)? Its not like we were going to be the only team to pass on him as he slid.

OriginalPouzar

hags9k:
Extend Russell,

I agree that they are not dead yet. Plenty of time to light torches and pitchfork GMs once they are mathematically eliminated.Keep the faith, not many believers out there at the moment..

Even I don’t imagine that they will make the playoffs (if I’m being realistic) but I will definitely be in front of the TV on Saturday night watching them play like every other game night/day and I will be cheering for a win.

When the wins don’t come, I dream of the draft. Silver linings!

Go Oilers

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KARMA BOOMERANG

We are 10 points out of a wildcard spot and today in the Mock Draft Oilers selected Andrei Svechnikov.

We traded him right away to the Islanders for their 2 first round picks…Evan Bouchard RD and Jacob Oloffson LC. Thanks Calgary for making the playoffs!

Check out EB and JO on LT’s recent post:
https://lowetide.ca/2018/01/15/the-31-best-players-in-the-2018-draft/

Years later Svechnikov would be talked about on Islanders hockey boards for years and years like we talk about Reinhart-1st round debacle

JD_Wry

Pescador: I wasn’t born an asshole,

I don’t think anybody is. I know I have to work at it every day, and some times I have to add alcohol for a little extra boost.

Dinks, well that’s a different matter entirely. You can be born a dink.

Fuge Udvar

hags9k:
The Russell NMC might be the worst of all the moves.

Maroon (one of our only bonafide wingers left in the SYSTEM) sails on down the line and we contemplate trading Nuge because we gave a NMC to the stay at homiest, stay at home defenseman that ever stayed at home?Fuckmerunnin.

It turns into a partial NMC after next year. After that Russel submits a list of 10 teams for 2019-20 season and a 15 team list in 2020-21. We should be able to offload Russel pretty easily if we retain 2 million even with a 10 team list. It wasn’t a smart move but I don’t think it will be as a big of an anchor as people think. Hopefully one of the young D will be pushing him out by then.

hunter1909

Extend Russell:
Cassandra,

I’ll simply reply that you probably didn’t feel this way after we upset SJ last year, and almost took out a willy veteran squad that swept the flames in the ducks.
I still believe in this team. Half a season of mostly disappointing results will not get me on the “fire the gm bandwagon 2018” yet.
If we were dead last maybe
But their not dead yet

It’s good to see a few still have hope(I lost mine at Christmas)

hunter1909

Fuge Udvar:
Younger Oil,

All reports at the time were saying we were picking Svechnikov in that spot. Even if we didn’t trade those picks we would never have had Barzal. I see people saying this all the time

Barzal would have been panned as another potential Yakupov, or Schremp if they thought they could get away with it lol

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Or an egotistical fool that thinks the team is foolish not to employ .

Extend Russell:

Extend Russell,

I agree with much of what you say. Although I wonder do you really mean what you said when calling people on this board… “egotistical fool” and “born an asshole”? Whats going on?

Fuge Udvar

Younger Oil,

All reports at the time were saying we were picking Svechnikov in that spot. Even if we didn’t trade those picks we would never have had Barzal. I see people saying this all the time

hags9k

Extend Russell,

I agree that they are not dead yet. Plenty of time to light torches and pitchfork GMs once they are mathematically eliminated. Keep the faith, not many believers out there at the moment..

hags9k

The Russell NMC might be the worst of all the moves.

Maroon (one of our only bonafide wingers left in the SYSTEM) sails on down the line and we contemplate trading Nuge because we gave a NMC to the stay at homiest, stay at home defenseman that ever stayed at home? Fuckmerunnin.

Extend Russell

Cassandra,

I’ll simply reply that you probably didn’t feel this way after we upset SJ last year, and almost took out a willy veteran squad that swept the flames in the ducks.
I still believe in this team. Half a season of mostly disappointing results will not get me on the “fire the gm bandwagon 2018” yet.
If we were dead last maybe
But their not dead yet

Dominoiler

Younger Oil:
The Oilers could have Eberle, Barzal, Beauvillier, and Debrincat in the lineup right now over Strome in the lineup now, and Benson in the System.

Chia basically turned the assets to gain/retain four top 6 forwards into a 3rd line winger and a middling prospect.

It is sickening that 90% of armchair GM’s could do a better job than someone getting paid millions to do the job.

That’s without even mentioning the Lucic and Russell contracts.

He as more or less provided this team with the framework to guarantee that the Oilers will not have success in the McDavid era, and that is absolutely inexcusable.

This!

Pescador

Extend Russell:
Pescador,

What did I say like right after that ?
Were you born an asshole ? Or you work at it ?

I wasn’t born an asshole,
but I do an excellent caricature of one in my new theatre production
‘to trade or not to trade’

Wilde

Extend Russell:
Wilde,

Thing that bugged me most is the Yamo thing

I’m not sure playing an 18 year old that clearly wasn’t ready after game 1 over people that just bled for you 3 months ago in the playoffs was a wise decision, regardless of the optics. Kid was playing purely on instinct and adrenaline and when that started to dull you had a failed tryout and pissed off middle 6 .

The beginning of the season was the heartbreaker, yeah. I don’t lay the failed Yamamoto experiment on Todd though. The guy just didn’t get enough wingers to start the season. That’s why he panicked and ran Leon for so long too, I think.

Just goes back to what I said. They’re at odds.

The HC and the GM have both made strange decisions, and on top of that, together, they’re less than the sum of their parts.

Cassandra

Extend Russell: I believe in this core
We might slip up this year and miss the playoffs
But this young core is really good

I believe LA Dallas and Avs missed the show last year and all 3 look to make it this year

I also believe we just won 2 must win games and strangers things have happened

But if we miss the dance this year I’ll focus on the positives and look forward to managements moves to correct it in the summer

If they falter next year though the coaches and management need to be replaced as early as the 30 game mark..
Thats just proper evaluation and execution

Even if they do nothing in the offseason the Oilers are strong favourites to make the playoffs next year.

The problem is that some people will take this as vindication.

If you are evaluating a general manager on the basis of the results of the team you are doing it wrong. There is no baseline to compare it to.

Chiarelli needs to be fired before the team starts winning again. Calling his track record abysmal is underselling it.

Note, winning the Stanley Cup is not part of his track record.

Extend Russell

Wilde,

Thing that bugged me most is the Yamo thing

I’m not sure playing an 18 year old that clearly wasn’t ready after game 1 over people that just bled for you 3 months ago in the playoffs was a wise decision, regardless of the optics. Kid was playing purely on instinct and adrenaline and when that started to dull you had a failed tryout and pissed off middle 6 .

Wilde

Extend Russell: Sekera out half the season
Klefbom not playing at 100% same with Larsson
Auditions all over the map not clicking
Leon with like 1pp g this season
Pk 3rd best on the road – 50% at home …
Talbot looking shaky almost all year

2 of these things you can lay on TMac
Been a weird year but most smart hockey people said this was going to be a hard possibly disappointing year.
I’m actually surprised that this team is still somewhat in it with that list

Yeah dude, there’s a short list of things that have *not* gone wrong this year.

But on the long list of things that have, there’s a lot of the coaches fingerprints to find.

Things McLellan and his staff has done well:

-found Russel a spot in the lineup where he excelled relative to his norms, even in shot shares(until recently)
-found the 16-29-18 line(until recently)
-has a strong system at 5v5(except when he splits up the centres)

Then there’s actually a lot of stuff that he was too slow to fix, or hasn’t fixed at all:

-the power play, him and Woodcroft randomly changed the good setup they had from last year
-the penalty kill, system sucks and has sucked since midway through last year, the only guy they miss from last year was actually a guy Todd helped push out(Pouliot)
-went to 3 centres way too late
-rode Talbot too hard, expressing to his young backup that he didn’t trust him, we shouldn’t have had to find out LB couldnt cut it halfway through the season, this is HC and GM being on different pages

The number one thing for me though, is that the GM and HC butt heads on stuff. One of them for sure has to go. PC wanted LB to be the backup and Leon to be a centre, Todd disagrees on that and more. You just can’t have a guy building a roster that’s already going to be worse than last year, then have the other guy deploying it make it worse than that by not using it as intended. What that means is one of them thinks they know how to do the others job.

hunter1909

Extend Russell: ? Did you mean refs ?

Oh I forgot. It’s supposed to always be the refs fault.

Extend Russell

hunter1909: The Ducks totally schooled the Oilers. I don’t get this at all.

? Did you mean refs ?

Extend Russell

Wilde:
Extend Russell,

I’d take AV if the Rangers fire him this summer.

Sekera out half the season
Klefbom not playing at 100% same with Larsson
Auditions all over the map not clicking
Leon with like 1pp g this season
Pk 3rd best on the road – 50% at home …
Talbot looking shaky almost all year

2 of these things you can lay on TMac
Been a weird year but most smart hockey people said this was going to be a hard possibly disappointing year.
I’m actually surprised that this team is still somewhat in it with that list

hunter1909

Extend Russell: I would counter with he TMac coached very well in the playoffs last year.

The Ducks totally schooled the Oilers. I don’t get this at all.

Wilde

Extend Russell,

I’d take AV if the Rangers fire him this summer.

Wilde

godot10: Coaching matters.The Oilers coaching is mediocre at best.McLellan’s (arguably poor) coaching and systems have force Chiarelli to dump a lot of talented players at bargain prices.

This is happening as we speak too, Todd doesn’t want to help the org at all. If he played Slepyshev it’d be a hell of a lot easier to move him.

Edit: If Slepyshev played 15 a night with Nuge or Drai, then based on current rates he’d score .5PPG and be the easiest asset to move for movings sakes. 6’2 200 shooting winger. Even Chia can move that.

Extend Russell

godot10: Coaching matters.The Oilers coaching is mediocre at best.McLellan’s (arguably poor) coaching and systems have force Chiarelli to dump a lot of talented players at bargain prices.

I would counter with he TMac coached very well in the playoffs last year. In my opinion anyway.
I think the only move he would have like to make was pulling Eberle out and inserting JJ or hendo.
But the politics of that move would have been bad
I dunno. I don’t agree with some of his decisions this year to be sure, but I don’t see a better option atm

godot10

Extend Russell: So you think coaches are like 95% to blame if a team fails to preform ?
I can’t count that number of posts and weird goals against us this year accurately.
It’s been a weird year
But like TMac said, he doesn’t see the team giving up.

Coaching is important but let’s not overrate it’s impact in a bizarre year to say the least .
Chiarelli has won recently and I’m willing to give him some slack because the full story hasn’t been told yet . Like I said
30 games in next year and similar results ? Axe him

Coaching matters. The Oilers coaching is mediocre at best. McLellan’s (arguably poor) coaching and systems have force Chiarelli to dump a lot of talented players at bargain prices.

YKOil

Assets (excluding the obvious):

NMC: Lucic, Sekera, Russell, Talbot

UFA (in order of value): Maroon, Letestu, Cammalleri, Auvitu, Fayne (why not?)

RFA (low value): Strome, Slepyshev, Caggiula, Davidson, Benning

RFA (high value): Nurse

Signed (low value): Kassian, Khaira, Montoya

Signed (high value): Nugent-Hopkins, Klefbom

Youth and prospects w/value: Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Benson, Bear, Jones, Mantha

So, right off the top we see a problem with this team – the asset base overall is poor:
—- the higher value players are also critical players so unless a Klefbom trade absolutely fills the RW-shooter hole then don’t do it.
—- the prospect cupboard has no depth from which to trade at all

Every trade of quality hurts the team more than it helps. Hell, can we afford to trade Maroon?

Obviously, barring Maroon signing an under-the-market contract, the Oiler’s kind of have to.

The more I look at that listing the more my eyes hurt. Best that can be done:

– trade the obvious and pocket the nickels;
– sign at least one tradeable asset UFA (pulling the dregs here because the Cap goes up a fair amount meaning everyone can find a home fairly easily)
– win the draft lottery and pick top-5 (winning can also mean ‘staying’ where you are re: lotto)

Painful. Hard to believe the cupboard is that bare. Short of convincing, in order, Russell, Lucic and/or Sekera to waive their NMCs OR getting lucky on signing some UFAs (Neal) OR winning the rights to Dahlin* there is no timely fix that I can see.

Takes bad GM work to be that bad.

I would quietly talk to Sekera, he might be ready for a contender and the Oil are years away; Lucic and Russell are too proud to admit they aren’t part of the solution if they stay.
I would also be ready to buy; you never know what pops up and letting something good pass by because you resign yourself to being a ‘seller’ is a sure way to lose.

* they win the rights to Dahlin and maybe they can auction that for a top-5 pick and a gold-star C/W prospect ready to hit the stage (not named “Reinhart” that is) and thereby goose the timeline a bit; FTR, I wouldn’t do that – Dahlin boosts the timeline all on his own imo

JimmyV1965

If the Hawks miss the playoffs, I think there’s a good chance Quenville is available. If that happens, I’m dropping Tmac like a hot potatoe. Q would be perfect for a young team like the Oil.

Extend Russell

Pescador,

What did I say like right after that ?
Were you born an asshole ? Or you work at it 🙂

Extend Russell

godot10: LA and Dallas changed their coaches.Colorado’s coach had preparation time this season that he didn’t have last year because of his late hiring when Roy quit late.

They didn’t lose a second season by waiting to fire their coach midway into this season.

So you think coaches are like 95% to blame if a team fails to preform ?
I can’t count that number of posts and weird goals against us this year accurately.
It’s been a weird year
But like TMac said, he doesn’t see the team giving up.

Coaching is important but let’s not overrate it’s impact in a bizarre year to say the least .
Chiarelli has won recently and I’m willing to give him some slack because the full story hasn’t been told yet . Like I said
30 games in next year and similar results ? Axe him

JimmyV1965

godot10: Not really.It was a failure of pro-scouting.The track record of Jokinen was fine, but the scouts failed to identify the decline in his play last season as real and permanent.

I think what he’s saying is very few people criticized the trade when it was made and he’s right about that. I don’t remember anyone trashing the move. And a big part of it was the $1 mill salary. You can make that disappear like candy at a Weight Wafchers meeting. And they did just that.

Pescador

Extend Russell:
The real goats this year imo are Klefdumb and Leon

Extend Russell:
5,

I think I’m just tired of the negativity

But I’m done bashing players
It’s beneath me
People that have any sense or intelligence should know better too.
But I spelled yoga wrong so I’m a moron I guess lol

a couple years ago I wanted them to trade Nurse.
Didnt think he had the intelligence to play well enough defensively

Here’s hoping you can take your own advice,
I said nothing of your spelling.
Parity

stephen sheps

Extend Russell,

No problem. Happy to share a bit of pop culture trivia when I can.

As Professor Q, stated above, he wrote about hockey extensively without betraying his team loyalties. Sometimes he wrote as a way of actually disrupting some elements of Canadian culture and Canadian nationalism he found uncomfortable. Very interesting and intelligent guy. He’s definitely missed.

JimmyV1965

OmJo: We got a 3rd for Purcell.

I think Maroon can nab a 2nd.

I think we will all be surprised at what Maroon fetches in a trade. He should be one of the most sought after trade pieces at the deadline. The guy is huge, has good hands, can play with the stars and protect them, he’s great in the dressing room and his cap hit is minuscule. In fact, his cap hit will be so small a team could go out and make a second trade. I think he should get a second and a decent prospect.

Wilde

godot10: Jack Johnson isn’t.He is a pure rental.

Appreciated correction.

Personally I still wouldn’t value him highly, but Columbus’ continued retention of him and his draft pedigree might draw some GM’s.

hunter1909

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Extend Russell

stephen sheps,

That’s cool
I always just assumed
It’s funny cuz I was listening to fireworks on the way home from work yesterday morning and he mentions Orr in the song
Never would have put that together, thanks again.
Love the hip

Professor Q

Extend Russell:
stephen sheps,

That’s news to me !
I would have though after the song he wrote and all the games I saw him at he was one !
Learn something new everyday . Thanks

Mind you, he had also written sings about Bobby Orr, Paul Henderson, Team Canada, Dan Snyder, hockey in general (although as that one was released in 2006, I like to think the Oilers also had an inspiration there), etc. They all had other meanings, too.

He loved hockey. He did have a special relationship with the Leafs, but he usually wore his Bruins sweater and all that jazz. Interesting Kingstonite.

godot10

Wilde:
Also, Elliote Friedman’s feature today on ‘defensemen flooding the market’ is top comedy.

Step right up for one of Dion Phaneuf, Paul Martin or Jack Johnson.

All of whom are signed beyond this year. (????)

Jack Johnson isn’t. He is a pure rental.