The 100 best players in the 2018 draft

by Lowetide

We now know that one very big piece of the future will come from the entry draft. The Edmonton Oilers, who treat elite talent like a renewable resource because they can, once again are poised for a top-10 overall selection. In fairness to them, they usually get it right on draft day.

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NOTES ON A SCANDAL

  • I use NHLE as a strong guiding light.
  • My list list rewards offense heavily, and the most gifted offensive players will be at the top.
  • Players with a range of skills usually do well, but there is a fine line between a two-way player and a checking future.
  • The list does not give high numbers to players who have a lot of their value tied up in the defensive side of the game.
  • Goalies are graded (almost exclusively) by save percentage, although success over more than one season has terrific value.
  • I view Bob McKenzie’s list as the draft Bible, but my list does not factor in any scouts input beyond the obvious. (My list is complete before his final one).
  • Corey Pronman’s views have a major impact on my list. He’s been finding value in the draft for years and his list is unique. Despite my admiration for his work, our lists are not similar. Makes sense, since he’s scouting and evaluating these players, I’m using math and what gets sent my way. Corey’s mid-season list is here.
  • Scott Wheeler is a unique voice whose mid-season list is here.
  • Craig Button’s list has high value for me, I like the fact he has the courage of his convictions.
  • I pay attention to Red Line Report. Their scouting reports are the industry standard.
  • Simon Boisvert is a wonderful resource. He’s on the Lowdown often.
  • I also view McKeen’s, Steve Kournianos, Grant McCagg, Tom Hunter, The Black Book, Brock Otten, Adam Sherren, ISS.
  • I do not copy any rankings (this should be fairly obvious if you look at other rankings).
  • Mark Edwards Black Book is a brilliant reference. His release last year has been very useful for this year’s draft. Highly recommended.
  • It is very rare for me to rank a defenseman No. 1 overall. Last time? Victor Hedman, 2009. Things have changed this year.
  • My list is not designed to compete with, or copy any of the sources mentioned above. Organizations like Red Line, ISS, McKeens, Future Considerations and others employ actual scouts who observe, evaluate and project. None of their work is contained here.
  • This list uses math, previous draft trends (the CHL delivers enormous talent to the NHL), various pieces of anecdotal information volunteered by scouts and observers along the way, and an educated guess based on watching these things unfold since 1971.

THE 100 BEST PLAYERS IN THE 2018 DRAFT

  1. (1) LD Rasmus Dahlin, Frolunda (SHL). The franchise defenseman. No negatives.
  2. (2) R Andrei Svechnikov, Barrie Colts (OHL). Complete talent, fleet winger (shoots left).
  3. (3) L Filip Zadina, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Size, shooter, speed, skill.
  4. (4) LD Ty Smith, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Nice range of skills and impressive offense.
  5. (6) RC Oliver Wahlstrom, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL). Pure scorer with good size. Plus shot.
  6. (5) RD Adam Boqvist, Brynas (SuperElite). Undersized puck moving defender who is very creative.
  7. (7) LD Quinn Hughes, Michigan (NCAA). Fast as lightning defender, smooth as silk.
  8. (9) LC Jacob Olofsson, Timra (Allsvenskan). Speedy center with skill, he’s an emerging player.
  9. (13) LC Joe Veleno, Saint-John Sea Dogs (QMJHL). Good size and speed, creative center.
  10. (8) L Brady Tkachuk, Boston University (NCAA). Rugged power winger with two-way skills.
  11. (10) RD Evan Bouchard, London Knights (OHL). Big numbers, intelligent.
  12. (12) LC Filip Hallander, Timra (Allsvenskan). Big, fast forward is an excellent puck transporter.
  13. (11) L Joel Farabee, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL). Speedy winger with legit skill, he’s a little undersized.
  14. (14) RD Noah Dobson, Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL). Two-way defenseman.
  15. (15) RC Akil Thomas, Niagara Ice Dogs (OHL). Undersized center with all of the tools.
  16. (16) RD Calen Addison, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL). Creative player, very fast.
  17. (17) RD Ryan Merkley, Guelph Storm (OHL)Ridiculous offensive package.
  18. (18) LC Barrett Hayton, SSM Greyhounds (OHL). Shooter owns a heavy shot and uses it liberally.
  19. (19) LC Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Assat (Sm-Liiga)Smart, very skilled and he’s 6.02, 190.
  20. (22) W Samuel Fagemo, Frolunda (SuperElite). Good boots and an excellent shot.
  21. (21) R Dominik Bokk, Vajxo Lakers (SuperElite). Elusive skater and a fine stickhandler.
  22. 23) LC Ryan McLeod, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL). Late ’99 has size, speed and skill.
  23. (24) RC Cam Hillis, Guelph Storm (OHL). He’s a burner and he’s spiking.
  24. (20) RD Jett Woo, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL). A fine two-way prospect and a rare righty.
  25. (25) RD Bode Wilde, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL). Has size, skill, skating ability plus can shoot the puck.
  26. (26) LD K’Andre Miller, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL). Big defender who can skate and has a big shot.
  27. (27) RC Rasmus Kupari, Karpat (Sm-Liiga). Skilled center, offense is the big selling point.
  28. (28) L Isac Lundestrom, Lulea (SHL). He is a burner, probably a little shy offensively.
  29. (29) LC Linus Nyman, Kingston Frontenacs (OHL)Strong two-way C with impressive offense.
  30. (30) R Serron Noel, Oshawa Generals (OHL). Big power forward with improving speed.
  31. (31) L Grigori Denisenko, Yaroslavl (MHL). Shoots right, high-end skill and he’s a puck wizard.
  32. (32) LC Phillipp Kurashev, Quebec Remparts (QMJHL). Intelligent two-way center
  33. (33) LC Milos Roman, Vancouver Giants (WHL)A smart player in all areas of the ice.
  34. (35) LD Alex Alexeyev, Red Deer Rebels (WHL). Big man, calm feet, has skill.
  35. (37) LD Jared McIssac, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Powerful skater, emerging offense.
  36. (38) LC Allan McShane, Oshawa Generals (OHL). A wide range of skills.
  37. (44) R Vitali Kravtsov, Traktor (KHL). Terrific skill obscured by playing in big league.
  38. (34) LC Jack McBain, Toronto Jr. Canadians (OJHL)Two-way C with size and skill.
  39. (40) R Jesse Ylonen, Espoo United (Mestis). Tall, thin skill winger who is both shooter and playmaker.
  40. (36) G Lukas Dostal, Brno (Czech). Fabulous numbers over the last two seasons.
  41. (41) LC Benoit-Olivier Groulx, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL)Two-way center with some skill.
  42. (42) L Jakob Lauko, Chomutov (Czech). Skilled winger with good speed. Offense a mystery.
  43. (43) LC Nathan Dunkley, London Knights (OHL). Impressive young player with offensive ability.
  44. (45) G Oliver Rodrigue, Drummondville (QMJHL). Best NA goalie by consensus.
  45. (46) LD Rasmus Sandin, SSM Greyhounds (OHL). Smart, undersized skill defenseman.
  46. (39) G Jakub Skarek, Jihlava (Czech)Huge goalie, quality resume.
  47. (47) L Cedric Desruisseaux, Drummondville (QMJHL)Impressive 5×5 scorer.
  48. (49) L Albin Eriksson, Skelleftea (SHL). Big winger, plus speed, promising offense.
  49. (50) RC Ty Dallandrea, Flint Firebirds (OHL). Skill center plays a rugged style.
  50. (48) LD Jonathan Tychonick, Penticton Vees (BCJHL). Puck mover, creative, chaos.
  51. (51) L Jack Randl, Omaha Lancers (USHL). Impressive scorer. Zero buzz.
  52. (52) L Martin Kaut, Pardubice (Czech)Big, strong, excellent skater. Offense unclear.
  53. (53) LD Filip Kral, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Smart puck moving defender. Impressive.
  54. (54) LC Alexander Khovanov, Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL). Unreal skill.
  55. (71) L Jake Wise, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). A burner with emerging offense.
  56. (56) RD Nils Lundkvist, Lulea (SHL)Speed and can pass plus transport the puck.
  57. (55) L Sampo Ranta, Sioux City Musketeers (USHL)Skill winger with speed and a plus shot.
  58. (57) RC Kyle Topping, Kelowna Rockets (WHL). Impressive even-strength offense.
  59. (58) RD Sean Durzi, Owen Sound Attack (OHL). Puck mover, talented and trending.
  60. (59) R Kody Clark, Ottawa 67’s (OHL). Rambunctious PF with some skill. Wendel’s boy.
  61. (66) L Cole Fonstadt, Prince Albert Raiders (WHL). Good hands, skilled.
  62. (60) R Riley Sutter, Everett Silvertips (WHL). A gritty winger with skill. Sutter.
  63. (61) L Anderson MacDonald, Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL). Big W is talented scorer.
  64. (62) LC Matej Pekar, Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL). Playmaking Czech in USHL.
  65. (70) LC Liam Foudy, London Knights (OHL). Skill center.
  66. (63) LC Blake McLaughlin, Chicago Steel (USHL). Undersized skill player.
  67. (NR) LC Ryan O’Reilly, Madison Capitals (USHL). Power forward with skill.
  68. (64) R Vladislav Kotkov, Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL). Big, mobile offensive winger.
  69. (65) R Aidan Dudas, Owen Sound Attack (OHL). Small, very skilled forward.
  70. (67) LD Mattias Samuelsson, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). Shutdown skills, some offense.
  71. (68) L Gabriel Fortier, Baie Comeau (QMJHL). Speedy winger with skill.
  72. (NR) LD Nicolas Beaudin, Drummondville (QMJHL). Impressive puck mover, speed a concern.
  73. (69) RC Jay O’Brien, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). Still finding out about him.
  74. (72) R Yegor Sokolov, Cape Breton (QMJHL). Skilled power forward with good numbers.
  75. (73) LC Lukas Wernblom, MODO (SuperElite). Small, skilled, needs better results.
  76. (74) LD Adam Ginning, Linkoping (SHL). Big D, good speed, shutdown type.
  77. (75) RC Semyon Der-Arguchintsev, Peterborough Petes (OHL). Playmaking center, not a lot of buzz.
  78. (NR) R Dmitri Zavgorodny, Rimouski Oceanic (QMJHL). Small, effective goal scorer.
  79. (NR) R Jonatan Berggren, Skelleftea (SuperElite). Fearless two-way W, Kournianos likes him.
  80. (NR) R Pavel Gogolev, Peterborough (OHL). 30 goals in world’s best junior league.
  81. (NR) RD Axel Andersson, Djurgardens (SuperElite). Speedy blue with skill.
  82. (NR) LC Jack Drury, Waterloo Blackhawks (USHL). Chris’ boy, smart and skilled. (USAToday).
  83. (NR) L Johnny Gruden, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). Good speed, two way acumen.
  84. (NR) L Justin Almeida, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL). Good speed, two way ability, spiked offensively.
  85. (NR) L Jan Jenik, Benatky (Cze-2). Solid two-way prospect, size, skill.
  86. (NR) LD Justin Bergeron, Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL). M-A Bergeron 2.0.
  87. (NR) C-R Blade Jenkins, Saginaw Spirit (OHL). Scorer with size, better on the wing.
  88. (NR) LD Danila Galenyuk, St. Petersburg (KHL). Strong two-way D, good skater.
  89. (NR) L Alex Steeves, Dubuque (USHL). Smaller winger, speedy, physical.
  90. (NR) LD Adam McCormick, Cape Breton (QMJHL). Smart D, excellent skater.
  91. (NR) R Arttu Nevasaari, Karpat (Jr. Sm-Liiga). Top-end skill.
  92. (NR) R Trey Fix-Wolansky, Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL). Small, talented, improved.
  93. (NR) RD Alec Regula, London Knights (OHL). Big two-way D with good mobility.
  94. (NR) LD Marc Del Gaizo, Muskegon (USHL). Impressive skill defender.
  95. (NR) LD Toni Utonen, Tappara (Sm-Liiga). Impressive skater, all around skills.
  96. (NR) LC Matthew Struthers, North Bay Battalion (OHL). Big two-way C.
  97. (NR) L Gavin Hain, U.S.N.D.P (USHL). Intelligent player, terrific skater.
  98. (NR) L Ryan Chykowski, Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL). Throwback W, good shot, 21 goals.
  99. (NR) L Paul Cotter, Lincoln Stars (USHL). Impressive athlete plus skills.
  100. (NR) LC Curtis Douglas, Windsor Spitfires (OHL). Giant center with skill.

OILERS CURRENT 2018 DRAFT PICKS

  • First Round—No. 7 overall
  • Second Round—No. 38 overall
  • Third Round—No. 69 overall
  • Fourth Round—No. 100 overall (Oilers acquired goaltender Al Montoya from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for a conditional fourth-round pick in 2018. Montoya has now covered the condition. It is a fourth).
  • Fifth Round—No. 129 overall
  • Sixth Round—No. 160 overall
  • Seventh Round—No. 191 overall

OILERS 2018 MOCK DRAFT

For fun, I’m going to use Craig Button’s most recent list as the draft order. My list (below) reflects the top available name on my list (for the first three selections) that hasn’t yet come off the Button list.

  • First Round—No. 7 overall—RC Oliver Wahlstrom, U.S.N.D.P. (USHL). Righty shot with an outstanding offensive resume. A pure sniper, he’s a ‘perfect fit’ for Connor McDavid (although it might be a year away). Wahlstrom’s offense in the USHL is tremendous, he might be getting zoomed by phenom Jack Hughes but the Oilers should happily take their chances. He leads the USHL in goals-per-game (0.85) and would be an outstanding addition.
  • Second Round—No. 38 overall—RD Calen Addison, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL). A strong (if undersized) defender who is regarded as a quality skill player. Addison can jump into the play or place a pass beautifully, and has posted massive numbers in his draft year (doubled his point total from 33 to 65 year over year). Although he isn’t among the top five defensemen in the draft, he is among my top 20 players (it’s a strange draft year). This would be terrific value.
  • Third Round—No. 69 overall—W Samuel Fagemo, Frolunda (SuperElite). I have to credit Simon Boisvert for tipping me about this player. Fagemo would be insane value at this number. He’s a dynamic offensive player, loves to shoot the puck and can play either wing.
  • Fourth Round—No. 100 overall (Oilers acquired goaltender Al Montoya from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for a conditional fourth-round pick in 2018. Montoya has now covered the condition. It is a fourth).
  • Fifth Round—No. 129 overall—G Amir Miftakhov, Irbis Kazan (MHL).  Young Russian goalie has posted two strong seasons in a row.
  • Sixth Round—No. 160 overall—LC Tristen Nielsen, Calgary Hitmen (WHL). Small skilled F with speed.
  • Seventh Round—No. 191 overall—RD Mac Hollowell, SSM (OHL). A 1998, small with speed and skill.

If the Oilers grab this kind of skill at the 2018 draft, Oilers fans should be thrilled. If the club drafts No. 7 or higher, there will be an impact talent on the board. I’m still onside with Ty Smith and the Oilers no doubt love Quinn Hughes, but we are hurtling toward a scoring forward or skill RD based on this draft list. I think the first six names off the board will be Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Tkachuk, Boqvist, Hughes, leaving Wahlstrom, Bouchard, Smith and Merkley as possible Oilers. It’s going to be very interesting.

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GMB3

Professor Q: Understood. It got out of hand quickly and I am glad that it got handled. My apologies, to you and Mr. Lowetide.

Likewise!

GMB3

OriginalPouzar: A good portion of the summer or was it one day?

Sorry, a good portion of his summer moves! My bad, I’ll spell it out for ya next time coopzie

OriginalPouzar: Of a playoff spot.

Top 4 teams make it and it goes by points percentage not points as all teams don’t play the same number of games. .577 vs .540 – that’s the difference in points percentage between 4th and where they are in 6th – unlikely but possible.

I know. But the Condors would have to have 2 more wins in their games played. Making up 2 games over 5 doesn’t cut it.

Jaxon

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!: If Ottawa wins the draft lottery Klefbom and the 2019 1st gets it done.

If Edmotnon wins the draft lottery, they don’t need to go after Karlsson. They’ll draft Dahlin who many think will be better than Karlsson and come at a way cheaper cost for the first 3 years. If they get Dahlin you trade Klefbom (and possibly picks) for another solid right-handed D. It doesn’t need to be a bank breaker like Karlsson.

Dahlin – Larsson (not that Dahlin should play on the first pair right off the bat, but that will be the eventual depth chart possibly very early in the season)
Nurse – (maybe Klefbom + for one of these?: Pulock, Severson, Dumba, Montour, Trouba, Manson, Barrie)
Sekera/Russell (until next summer when one or both gets traded) – Benning (Benning quietly put together a decent season even though most people are down in his value, with 17 of 20 pts at evens).

frjohnk

SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
frjohnk,

This may have been the case during the season for sure but things are different once you get to the off-season.

Ryan could be traded to a team like the Canucks who will need actual NHL bodies and will have loads of cap space.

Or perhaps Gaborik hangs them up after another injury riddled campaign this year and all of a sudden Ryan’s contract is palpable? Who knows maybe Montreal could find a use for him, Bergevin loves knee jerk trades for older players.

And the bigger question for Vegas gonna be parting it’s 2019 1st rounder after giving up their first this year for Tatar.

I don’t think Vegas is a slam dunk and I’m willing to dream here.

I do think if Ryan is not attached, then there will be a quite a few bidders for Karlsson. A team that can afford to pay with a bunch of prospects and picks is probably who gets Karlsson.

The team I think he ends up within a year.

Tampa

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

frjohnk,

This may have been the case during the season for sure but things are different once you get to the off-season.

Ryan could be traded to a team like the Canucks who will need actual NHL bodies and will have loads of cap space.

Or perhaps Gaborik hangs them up after another injury riddled campaign this year and all of a sudden Ryan’s contract is palpable? Who knows maybe Montreal could find a use for him, Bergevin loves knee jerk trades for older players.

And the bigger question for Vegas gonna be parting it’s 2019 1st rounder after giving up their first this year for Tatar.

I don’t think Vegas is a slam dunk and I’m willing to dream here.

frjohnk

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!:
JimmyV1965,

This is why the Oilers can’t have nice things IMO.

The only downside to getting Erik Karlsson is the stress of having to offload two of Sekera, Russell, Lucic in the summer of 2019 to make way for his payday contract.

The guy scores at 1Line levels 5v5 and he’s a defenseman

He makes Hedman look pedestrian in every single individual metric and he does it with 6 inches and 35 pounds less, playing on a team sans perennial all-stars in a supporting cast.

He would also be working with Coffey who is without doubt going to be replacing someone behind the bench next year and who would understand exactly who Karlsson is as a player.

Agreed, be nervous about the acquisition cost that’s fair although I don’t know if its correct either, Ottawa doesn’t have a history of winning big trades or keeping its stars happy when it does have them. Plus they have an owner who may or may not be pulling strings behind the scenes. Slagging his play on the other hand is bizarre, Karlsson is this generation’s most consistent offensive defensman, he is a gold plated all-star with two Norris trophies to his name before his 28th birthday playing on a franchise where offense goes to die. Last season he proved that he can play a hard two-way game and still put up 70 points.

Dorion was hanging around the Oilers too much in the 2nd half of the season and Klefbom was shut-down shortly after all of those showings. I am convinced there is some smoke here.

If Ottawa wins the draft lottery Klefbom and the 2019 1st gets it done.

If Ottawa doesn’t win the draft lottery, Klefbom and the 2018 1st gets it done.

Ottawa desperately wants to get rid of Ryan, they feel that the only way to get rid of him is to put Karlsson and Ryan together. They almost got a deal done with Vegas with Ryan and Karlsson both going there. We should expect whoever gets Karlsson also gets Ryan this summer

McDavid 12.5
Drai 8.5
Ryan 7.25
Karlsson 6.5
RNH 6
Lucic 6
Sekera 5.5
Larsson 4.1
Talbot 4.1
Russell 4
Nurse 4*****
Strome 3****

Thats 71.5M for 12 roster players.

In that group, we do have the best offensive forward and Dman, also have 2 of the worst contracts in the league.

Other shoes would have to drop, we could not fit this lineup within the salary cap.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

ArmchairGM,

Well in that case we just laugh as Gary Bettman and Jason Botterill’s heads explode

I’d still trade for Karlsson though.

I honestly can’t think of a better way to develop Dahlin than having him sheltered on the ice and mentored off the ice by Erik Karlsson

ArmchairGM

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!:
JimmyV1965,

This is why the Oilers can’t have nice things IMO.

The only downside to getting Erik Karlsson is the stress of having to offload two of Sekera, Russell, Lucic in the summer of 2019 to make way for his payday contract.

The guy scores at 1Line levels 5v5 and he’s a defenseman

He makes Hedman look pedestrian in every single individual metric and he does it with 6 inches and 35 pounds less, playing on a team sans perennial all-stars in a supporting cast.

He would also be working with Coffey who is without doubt going to be replacing someone behind the bench next year and who would understand exactly who Karlsson is as a player.

Agreed, be nervous about the acquisition cost that’s fair although I don’t know if its correct either, Ottawa doesn’t have a history of winning big trades or keeping its stars happy when it does have them. Plus they have an owner who may or may not be pulling strings behind the scenes. Slagging his play on the other hand is bizarre, Karlsson is this generation’s most consistent offensive defensman, he is a gold plated all-star with two Norris trophies to his name before his 28th birthday playing on a franchise where offense goes to die. Last season he proved that he can play a hard two-way game and still put up 70 points.

Dorion was hanging around the Oilers too much in the 2nd half of the season and Klefbom was shut-down shortly after all of those showings. I am convinced there is some smoke here.

If Ottawa wins the draft lottery Klefbom and the 2019 1st gets it done.

If Ottawa doesn’t win the draft lottery, Klefbom and the 2018 1st gets it done.

And when (not if) the Oilers win the draft lottery?

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

JimmyV1965,

This is why the Oilers can’t have nice things IMO.

The only downside to getting Erik Karlsson is the stress of having to offload two of Sekera, Russell, Lucic in the summer of 2019 to make way for his payday contract.

The guy scores at 1Line levels 5v5 and he’s a defenseman

He makes Hedman look pedestrian in every single individual metric and he does it with 6 inches and 35 pounds less, playing on a team sans perennial all-stars in a supporting cast.

He would also be working with Coffey who is without doubt going to be replacing someone behind the bench next year and who would understand exactly who Karlsson is as a player.

Agreed, be nervous about the acquisition cost that’s fair although I don’t know if its correct either, Ottawa doesn’t have a history of winning big trades or keeping its stars happy when it does have them. Plus they have an owner who may or may not be pulling strings behind the scenes. Slagging his play on the other hand is bizarre, Karlsson is this generation’s most consistent offensive defensman, he is a gold plated all-star with two Norris trophies to his name before his 28th birthday playing on a franchise where offense goes to die. Last season he proved that he can play a hard two-way game and still put up 70 points.

Dorion was hanging around the Oilers too much in the 2nd half of the season and Klefbom was shut-down shortly after all of those showings. I am convinced there is some smoke here.

If Ottawa wins the draft lottery Klefbom and the 2019 1st gets it done.

If Ottawa doesn’t win the draft lottery, Klefbom and the 2018 1st gets it done.

ArmchairGM

Wilde: Ok, whoa.

We’re literally going to use solely points as a measure of offensive impact?

Erik Karlsson is a peerlessly gifted all zone defenseman. The overall impact of Nugent-Hopkins?

Mindblowing take. Erik Karlsson. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. What?

EK pulls Ottawa’s shots for per hour up by about 7, and their shots against per hour down by 7. That’s against the toughest comp the team faces.

Leon, as a centre, pulls Edmonton’s shots for per hour up by 1 and a half. EK crushes him in offensive facilitation, while also ensuring his team has the puck enough that he has an elite relative shot suppression effect.

Karlsson is bonafide rink-tilter, just like 97. Drai’s not close, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, well…

Read it again. I edited it for more sarcasm content.

sliderule

Confused:
sliderule,

Benson 11 points in 7 games, brilliant in the playoffs

He had a nice playoff but high second round pick in his second year should

Chase our failed seventh round pick had 11 pts in 10 games but with 7 goals

When you watch Benson you can see his smarts but skating will be a problem.

Wilde

ArmchairGM: 62 points… so he has less offensive impact on the game than Draisaitl.

Ok, whoa.

We’re literally going to use solely points as a measure of offensive impact?

Erik Karlsson is a peerlessly gifted all zone defenseman. The overall impact of Nugent-Hopkins?

Mindblowing take. Erik Karlsson. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. What?

EK pulls Ottawa’s shots for per hour up by about 7, and their shots against per hour down by 7. That’s against the toughest comp the team faces.

Leon, as a centre, pulls Edmonton’s shots for per hour up by 1 and a half. EK crushes him in offensive facilitation, while also ensuring his team has the puck enough that he has an elite relative shot suppression effect.

Karlsson is bonafide rink-tilter, just like 97. Drai’s not close, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, well…

ArmchairGM

JimmyV1965:

The guy has 62 pts…

Erin Karlsson will be one of the greatest dmen in this league for at least the next eight years

62 points… so he has less offensive impact on the game than Draisaitl. And due to his average defensive play, he probably has the overall impact of Nugent-Hopkins. But he plays 25 minutes per game, so his impact/60 is probably more like that of Ryan Strome.

Yeah, I’d do that trade.

OriginalPouzar

GMB3:
Ironic that Chia spent a good portion of his summer signing AHL vets who aren’t even good AHL vets.

A good portion of the summer or was it one day?

OriginalPouzar

NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): 2 back of what? 5th place?

Of a playoff spot.

Top 4 teams make it and it goes by points percentage not points as all teams don’t play the same number of games. .577 vs .540 – that’s the difference in points percentage between 4th and where they are in 6th – unlikely but possible.

Professor Q

GMB3: Wholeheartedly agree. By the way, the other day when I asked if you were an actual professor, it was not meant to be offensive.

Understood. It got out of hand quickly and I am glad that it got handled. My apologies, to you and Mr. Lowetide.

GMB3

Professor Q: Perhaps more vetting should have occurred beforehand.

Wholeheartedly agree. By the way, the other day when I asked if you were an actual professor, it was not meant to be offensive.

Professor Q

GMB3,

At that point you might as well go all the way and put in Drai as well for the Subban deal instead. I think he’d be that much more impactful than Hamilton.

GMB3

Wow. Its actually possible for us to finish last in the west. Unlikely, but possible. Make it so. #firethemall

Was the rumoured ask for Dougie H a throw in of Darnell at the draft?

Professor Q

GMB3:
Ironic that Chia spent a good portion of his summer signing AHL vets who aren’t even good AHL vets.

Perhaps more vetting should have occurred beforehand.

Yeti

Jaxon,

There was a young player called Puljujärvi,
Who escaped from the Finnish army.
The Oilers granted his wish,
To teach him English,
So he could communicate rather smartly.

GMB3

Ironic that Chia spent a good portion of his summer signing AHL vets who aren’t even good AHL vets.

Confused:
Condors win in the shootout, 2 back 5 to go.

Can Gerry save his job?

2 back of what? 5th place?

OriginalPouzar

pts2pndr: You need to get real re Yamamoto! He is a good prospect but will need time. It is unfair to expect so much from this young man. As a fan base weneed to let him mature at his pace! What will be will be!

I don’t need to “get real” or get anything – I was simply responding to a comment using his “not doing much in the playoffs” with factual information related thereto.

Thank you for the adversarial and condescending tone though – very welcoming.

JimmyV1965

Old Timer:
Anybody trading for Karlsson is likely to overpay for what he now has to offer.

While he has been the best offensive D man in the NHL for the last few years, his recent injuries have impacted on his game. What is not yet known is whether he can return to his previous levels of skating and production.

He has been off his game this year. Will he get back to his old form next year and will he be worth what the acquiring team has to pay??

I get why people may be concerned about the asset cost of acquiring Karlsson, but I truly don’t understand this narrative that he’s having a bad season, or that he’s lost a step.

The guy has 62 pts, fifth in the NHL among dmen. And he’s doing this in probably the most difficult season he has ever experienced, both on and off the ice.

Sure his +/- is ugly, but he plays 27 min on a team with a -63 goal differential. The Oil suck and our -31 looks great in comparison. Ottawa’s goaltending might be the worst in the NHL this year.

And this notion that he’s lost a step is ridiculous. Sure Erik Karlsson has capitalized on his speed, but he’s a great player because of his vision, creativity, passing ability and skill. An ankle injury does not affect that. Hell, the guy was one of the best players in the playoffs last year while playing on the injured ankle.

Erin Karlsson will be one of the greatest dmen in this league for at least the next eight years

GMB3

frjohnk: Damn.Hoping the Blues win.My co-workers son plays for the Blues.

Are you from Brandon?? I know at one point Edmundson was one of my good buddies D partner. Or maybe just teammate.

Pretty sure he played with both Ferland and Edmundson at one time. That would have been a physically intimidating minor hockey team.

pts2pndr

OriginalPouzar:
Yamamoto was playing hurt for the entire playoffs – he missed the end of the regular season with injury and carried in to the playoffs.Benson is joining Bakersfield tomorrow, Yamamoto is not, presumably due to injury.

You need to get real re Yamamoto! He is a good prospect but will need time. It is unfair to expect so much from this young man. As a fan base we need to let him mature at his pace! What will be will be!

Bos8

Confused,

He’ll probably meet them in Winnipeg.

They play the Moose in Winnipeg, Friday and Sunday. I’ll probably go if Benson is playing.

Confused

Bos8,

Benson arrives tomorrow

Bos8

Confused,

Well considering he got a no talent team after the two lbig boys left, being two points out is pretty remarkable. Making chicken soup out of this chickenshit is akin to “The Miracle at Cana”.

Confused

Condors win in the shootout, 2 back 5 to go.

Can Gerry save his job?

Jaxon

Kurri as next GM? He’s got some pretty good GM credentials in the Liiga and KHL and he’d be the perfect mentor for Puljujarvi.

Confused

Lowetide,

Video on Twitter feed, lovely goal!

wintoon

Anybody trading for Karlsson is likely to overpay for what he now has to offer.

While he has been the best offensive D man in the NHL for the last few years, his recent injuries have impacted on his game. What is not yet known is whether he can return to his previous levels of skating and production.

He has been off his game this year. Will he get back to his old form next year and will he be worth what the acquiring team has to pay??

Confused

CHI win!

Confused

Bos8,

Summer training, everyone else, almost, was getting better and faster during the summer.

Nobody apart from the player and his doctor will know specifics.

Strong finish is as good an indicator are any. Hockey players are fined tuned athletes, if you are not going forward, you are going backwards.

No way he physically kept up with the league for the last two years.

Summer training make and break players these days. Let’s hope he can catch up.

Harpers Hair

frjohnk: Double Damn

Jets are my second favorite team. I like the Stars too but they gone. Was hoping for the Blues to make it so I could have a second team to cheer for in playoffs. Still could.The last game of the season against Colorado should be a gooder.

They still have a great chance. Rematch against Chicago and then Colorado.

Bos8

Confused,

I’m talking about specifics, ie pelvic girdle, lower stomach muscles due double hernia operation.

He started slow, went on a 2 pt a game pace, faded and then came on in the playoffs. What little I saw of him he didn’t seem strong on his skates.

frjohnk

Harpers Hair: Nope.
DeBrincat also assist on the GWG.

Double Damn

Jets are my second favorite team. I like the Stars too but they gone. Was hoping for the Blues to make it so I could have a second team to cheer for in playoffs. Still could. The last game of the season against Colorado should be a gooder.

Harpers Hair

frjohnk: Damn.Hoping the Blues win.My co-workers son plays for the Blues.

Nope.
DeBrincat also assist on the GWG.

frjohnk

Harpers Hair: DeBrincat with his 28th NHL goal tonight.

Damn. Hoping the Blues win. My co-workers son plays for the Blues.

frjohnk

Harpers Hair: Vegas was reportedly very close to landing him at the deadline. Bet they will be back.

While Karlsson and McDavid would be enticing I think Karlsson to Edmonton is pretty much nonexistent.

Ottawa wants to attach Ryan to any deal with Karlsson and Vegas almost pulled it off.

No way does Edmonton do that deal. They would then have 2 of the worst 5 contracts in the league and with the Oilers basically being painted in a corner they cant do that deal.

Confused

Bos8,

As far as I know he played the whole season, but so did Oscar.

Obviously, not had a real off-season for two years.

Will this summer improve his skating, it depends upon if he trains with Terrell Owens or not.

Harpers Hair

Confused:
sliderule,

Benson 11 points in 7 games, brilliant in the playoffs

DeBrincat with his 28th NHL goal tonight.

Harpers Hair

OmJo: I can see Ottawa getting something substantial for him. Karlsson is as elite as they come and is still going to – barring major injuries ofc – be an excellent OFD for the next decade.

Can Ottawa give teams right to negotiate a contract with him before making a trade? Even though he isn’t an upcoming UFA?

I feel like Vegas is going to win the Karlsson sweepstakes. Again.

That’ll be fun for the play by play announcers.

Vegas was reportedly very close to landing him at the deadline. Bet they will be back.

Bos8

The question with Benson is will his skating improve going forward? The pelvis, hernia problems go away with time?

Anyone have info on his health status?