Shine a Light

by Lowetide

The Edmonton Oilers have a chance to secure another brilliant diamond in the McDavid cluster with astute drafting at No. 9 or higher. Since 2010, the club has been (mostly) drafting in wonderful places in the first round. This time, it’s at the end of the top 10 before the lottery. If Peter Chiarelli is going to trade the pick for a RHD, one would think the acquired player would need to be under control for several years. Who could it be?

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Connor McDavid’s outstanding 2017-18 season.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Leon had a good season but should be better 2018-19.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Oilers Prospects and how they fared this season.
  • Lowetide: Rattie signed, more work to do on right-wing.
  • Lowetide: Trio of Condors blue have very different rookie experiences.
  • Black Dog Pat: Not firing Chiarelli a slap in the face to Oilers fans.
  • Lowetide: Trading the first-round pick: Oilers ponder summer
  • Lowetide: Oilers summer to-do list short and sweet.
  • Lowetide: Draft 2018: The Oilers and Russia: A draft tragedy.
  • Lowetide: Draft 2018: The Oilers and the Republic of Finland
  • Lowetide: Draft 2018: The Oilers and Sweden.
  • Lowetide: Draft 2018: The Oilers and the QMJHL.
  • Lowetide: Draft 2018Oilers and the WHL.
  • Lowetide: Draft 2018: Oilers draft history and the OHL
  • Lowetide: Draft 2018: The Oilers and the NCAA.

CENTRAL SCOUTING’S FINAL LIST

There are four lists, making it impossible to debate rankings like we do on all of the other lists. What we can do is point out some major spikes from mid-term to the end. Yesterday, I mentioned a few selections I anticipated moving up, let’s see what actually happened.

  • Joe Veleno moving up from No. 13 North American. He moved to No. 8 NA. 
  • Ty Dellandrea moving up from No. 76 North American. He moved to No. 25 NA. 
  • Liam Foudy moving up from No. 91 North American. He moved up to No. 19 NA. 
  • Aidan Dudas moving up from No. 131 North American. He moved up to No. 68 NA. 
  • Dominik Bokk moving up from No. 8 European. He moved down to No. 12 EURO. 
  • Samuel Fagemo moving up from No. 40 European. He moved down to OFF EURO. 

Some major jumps and falls in this final stanza, and guess what the European rankings will adjust again for NHL teams. Although Central Scouting doesn’t impact rankings for individual teams, it does track these players over the season and trends (as above) should be monitored.

I’m about six weeks away from my final list (June 1) which will appear on this blog. I can tell you that the list (here) will be 125 names deep and the next update comes at the end of this month. I am very comfortable with the top 10 being close to final:

  1. LD Rasmus Dahlin, Frolunda (SHL). EURO No. 1 
  2. R Andrei Svechnikov, Barrie Colts (OHL). NA No. 1
  3. L Filip Zadina, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). NA No. 3
  4. LD Ty Smith, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). NA No. 14
  5. RC Oliver Wahlstrom, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL). NA No. 7
  6. RD Adam Boqvist, Brynas (SuperElite)EURO No. 2 
  7. LD Quinn Hughes, Michigan (NCAA). NA No. 6
  8. LC Jacob Olofsson, Timra (Allsvenskan). EURO No. 9
  9. LC Joe Veleno, Saint-John Sea Dogs (QMJHL). NA No. 8
  10. L Brady Tkachuk, Boston University (NCAA). NA No. 2 

SIMON BOISVERT, PROSPECT INSIDER

Simon Boisvert is a wildly popular guest on the Lowdown, and from time to time I pass along his thoughts through the blog. He had a chance to watch the Condors down the stretch and had a few words about some of the late arrivals.

  • Dmitri Samorukov: He was the revelation of the bunch, he’s only in his 18 year old season. He played really well on defense. I think his ceiling is probably top 4D in the NHL, he’s big but skates well for a guy his size. Very good hockey sense.”
  • Cooper Marody: “He really picked up where he left off (NCAA to AHL). Could he play in the NHL next year? I’m sure worst case he’ll get a cup of coffee. I think it was  good trade for the Oilers.”
  • Tyler Benson: Flashes of brilliance, his skating may not be up to par to NHL standards now, but he’s an intelligent player, so perhaps he could be an efficient third liner for Edmonton one day.”
  • Ostap Safin: He didn’t play as much, was not as visible. For a fourth-round pick I think it was pretty amazing for this guy to play in the AHL and hold his own. Hopefully next year he graduates to the AHL.”

Skinner has backstopped the Broncos through two very difficult series, the next one (against his old team should be easier.

PULJUJARVI NOT GOING

According to this report, Jesse Puljujarvi won’t be going to the World Hockey Championships. JP told Iltalehde “there has been little trouble, they must now be put in order. I now need a good and intact training course.” Story is here.

Google translate is good and bad. Good because they give us words we comprehend, bad because the true meaning of the quote remains beyond us. I could say something like “sounds like he has a good attitude” but you would think me crazy. And you’d be right. That said, it sounds like he has a good attitude.

WHAT CAN YOU GET FOR NO. 9 OVERALL?

I’ve decided to pursue the idea of trading No. 9 overall for a right-handed defenseman. I would keep the pick unless overwhelmed by a stunning offer. Here are the best righthanded entry-level puck movers in terms of points (and who were still in entry deals this season, via CapFriendly):

  1. Brandon Montour, Anaheim: 79, 9-23-32. I’ve always liked him, high skill and some chaos. Very likely staying with the Ducks. Plays 20:26 a night. Age: 24
  2. Charlie McAvoy, Boston: 61, 7-25-32. Amazing young player, so good with reading the play and making good decisions. Zero chance he’s leaving Boston before 2040. Plays 22:05 a game. Age: 20
  3. Ryan Pulock, NY Islanders: 67, 9-21-30. Chiarelli and Snow have a history of making deals (Reinhart, Eberle) so this is a player Edmonton could target. Play 18:16 a game. Age: 23
  4. Matt Benning, Edmonton: 72, 6-15-21. He’s a rfa and it’s possible Benning gets dealt as part of the deal to upgrade. I like him, hope the team signs him to a value deal. Plays 17:19 per night. Age: 23
  5. Jan Rutta, Chicago: 56, 6-14-20. Interesting player, he delivered far more than expected this season. Plays 19:16 a night and an older entry player (ala Auvitu). I think there should be some interest, although lots of chaos. Age: 27
  6. Brett Pesce, Carolina: 65, 3-16-19. Already signed to another deal (it’s terrific value) and one of the valuable young defenders in the game. No chance he’s headed this way. Age: 23

I think the Oilers should keep Benning, suspect there’s little interest in Rutta because the organization wants to aim higher. Montour, McAvoy and Pesce aren’t going anywhere, leaving Ryan Pulock. Peter Chiarelli hasn’t done well in recent trades with Garth Snow, that may be the matchup again this summer. No way on earth the Oilers should trade No. 9 for Ryan Pulock.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

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leadfarmer

Translation Chia and TMac are pissed at me for last offseason. I guess I will start working on it right away.

Hemsky is a gangsta

What about Chris Tanev or …. Dougie Hamilton?

Confused

Perhaps not.

Here is another Finish article from a couple of days ago.

Assuming Google is ballpark and the journalist was accurate, it implies JP had another procedure last summer which again impacted his training.

https://www.mtv.fi/sport/mmjaakiekko/artikkeli/kummola-murahtaa-mm-kieltaytymisista-suora-kommentti-puljujarven-tilanteesta/6866594#gs.dF0WaaM

leadfarmer

I think your list of who we may be targeting is a little full of guy that we are not going to get. Here is some guys that may be on the radar
Brodie – Well known player. Awful advanced stats. Like Hamonic bad when he left the Isles
Sanheim – Offensive acumen. Growing. Dont think he moves as they are in a win now mode but they do have a bunch of prospects
Honka – Definitely not for our high first rounder but could maybe get him for our second or third. Not the first young player to not have success with Hitch. We always blame this franchise for giving up on players too early, might be able to take advantage of another franchise doing the same
Myers – Jets roster will get expensive. Hellebyuck, Laine, Wheeler, Connor, Trouba, Morrissey will need contracts this year or next year. He’s expensive and UFA after next year but would be our best PP guy. I think they keep him for next year but then there is no way they can afford hiim. Those Perrault, Little, and Mason contracts are going to hurt. Especially those last two.
Pulock. Heavy heavy shot. Hard to evaluate player as the Islanders do not play defense, like at all.
Its the 5 Russell technique were they just all collapse low for some reason. Being a yound d in that environment I dont think suggesting coverage will be an issue is out of line.
Hamilton – Dont think he moves
Chris Tanev – we really need someone that is better offensively.

Dicky94

1st and Benning for Ellis.

magicaleigh

Rutta signed a one year extension last month.

Woodguy v2.0

According to this report, Jesse Puljujarvi won’t be going to the World Hockey Championships. JP told Iltalehde “there has been little trouble, they must now be put in order. I now need a good and intact training course.”

Sounds like JP is the 34.423rd 19/20 year old to be told :”If you want to survive and thrive in the NHL you must become an elite athlete so you need to start training like an elite athlete and that starts now”

I hope JP took it well and understands it.

This is good news.

Confused

Jana Hakanpaa star in the FEL. Free!

12 percent body fat

no to Valeno, heres hoping we get Bouchard or Whalstrom.

If Vancouver take Hughes or Dobson we should get one of the two if we are picking at 9th.

I like NHLE and think Ollofsson will be great, but based on where everyone else seems to have him penciled in he might be there second round for the oilers. If not Hallinders numbers are similar and so is size but he is six months younger. Than if the oilers can steal Ragnersson in the 5th or 6th round that would be a great job.

Bouchard
Hallinder
Ragnersson

2D and 1 forward with NHLEs around 32. Use all the other picks on highest NHLe forwards, or highest ranked forwards who are available.

ArmchairGM

“No way on earth the Oilers should trade No. 9 for Ryan Pulock.”

So it’s settled then. Pulock it is.

SwedishPoster

In one of Finland’s papers that are in swedish, they have a fairly big swedish speaking population, they have a translation of Jesse’s comments : “I’ve had some minor injuries I need to take care of carefully. I want to make sure everything is 100 %. I won’t need any kind of surgery just rest and rehab. I need a full offseason of good training.”

According to earlier reports his last two off-seasons were shortened due to surgeries so he’s decided to prioritize a full offseason of training this year. He wants to make sure he goes into summer training fully rested and healthy. Sounds like a kid looking to make a statement next season. He’ll train with Sebastian Aho btw.

Jaxon

Merkley dropped from 21 to 45!!!!! Wow. I still think I’d gamble on him, definitely in the first round. Pronman’s article on The Athletic discusses his issues at length and he still concludes he’d have him in the top 15.

ArmchairGM

From the last thread:

Scungilli Slushy: The 2nd alone given how high it was would have been an overpay for actual performance but at least more palatable.

Yes. A high second would be in line with “he’s going be a very good player. He was highly ranked and drafted, we’re confident in his ability and willing to pay for potential.”

Pink Socks

Has TMac been fired yet? Dallas is going to interview Nelson, time’s a wasting.

SwedishPoster

Woodguy v2.0:
According to this report, Jesse Puljujarvi won’t be going to the World Hockey Championships. JP told Iltalehde “there has been little trouble, they must now be put in order. I now need a good and intact training course.”

Sounds like JP is the 34.423rd 19/20 year old to be told :”If you want to survive and thrive in the NHL you must become an elite athlete so you need to start training like an elite athlete and that starts now”

I hope JP took it well and understands it.

This is good news.

Or he was injured and some hockey experts assuming they know everything haven’t done their research so they extrapolate guided by their bias. Looking at you Craig Simpson.

Oil2Oilers

SwedishPoster: He’ll train with Sebastian Aho btw.

Now you are just being intentionally vague 😉

SwedishPoster

Oil2Oilers: Now you are just being intentionally vague

Oh. Sorry for being unclear. I mean the nordic Sebastian Aho.

Rondo

Jaxon:
Merkley dropped from 21 to 45!!!!! Wow. I still think I’d gamble on him, definitely in the first round. Pronman’s article on The Athletic discusses his issues at length and he still concludes he’d have him in the top 15.

http://ohlprospects.blogspot.ca/2018/04/2018-nhl-central-scouting-final-rankings.html

” I suppose the first thing people will be talking about is where Ryan Merkley is ranked at #45. Which would put him towards the end of the 2nd round or early 3rd.. But I don’t think it’s necessarily surprising. NHL CSS already had Merkley as an early 2nd rounder on their midterm list and he drops even further now. The talent is there, but the late season shenanigans (including the healthy scratch) were bound to hurt him on a list like this. “

Kinger_Oil.redux

SwedishPoster: Oh. Sorry for being inclear. I mean the nordic Sebastian Aho.

– You mean the Finn who plays for Carolina? They are going to train together?

– Pool able to play in the top-6 properly would solve a lot for us IMO: its a big opportunity

Scungilli Slushy

SwedishPoster:
In one of Finland’s papers that are in swedish, they have a fairly big swedish speaking population, they have a translation of Jesse’s comments : “I’ve had some minor injuries I need to take care of carefully. I want to make sure everything is 100 %. I won’t need any kind of surgery just rest and rehab. I need a full offseason of good training.”

According to earlier reports his last two off-seasons were shortened due to surgeries so he’s decided to prioritize a full offseason of training this year. He wants to make sure he goes into summer training fully rested and healthy. Sounds like a kid looking to make a statement next season. He’ll train with Sebastian Aho btw.

Thanks for this.

Rondo

SwedishPoster: Oh. Sorry for being unclear. I mean the nordic Sebastian Aho.

You mean the guy Oilers could have taken at #33 instead of the Reinhart deal.

Scungilli Slushy

I had not remembered he had the surgery. It can really affect players when their off season is disrupted. It would be fantastic if JP came in really fit and a little stronger, and we see him bring it every game.

Jaxon

Rondo: http://ohlprospects.blogspot.ca/2018/04/2018-nhl-central-scouting-final-rankings.html

” I suppose the first thing people will be talking about is where Ryan Merkley is ranked at #45. Which would put him towards the end of the 2nd round or early 3rd.. But I don’t think it’s necessarily surprising. NHL CSS already had Merkley as an early 2nd rounder on their midterm list and he drops even further now. The talent is there, but the late season shenanigans (including the healthy scratch) were bound to hurt him on a list like this. ”

Yup. He has some issues but that kind of drop seems extreme. Other players who had character issues leading up to the draft: Klingberg, Eeli Tolvanen, Erik Karlsson, and current fellow prospect Adam Boqvist was mentioned as having character issues at the start of the season. His skills are elite and he is only 17 afterall. There is a lot of room for growth at that age. Not sure if take him at #12, but I would in the twenties.

frjohnk

No idea if there are any comparables between Merkley and DeAngelo but it would seem both are offensively gifted Dmen with maturity issues. When DeAngelo and Yzerman were having a chat about why he was not in the NHL, Yzerman told DeAngelo that he needed to be better defensively and needed to take hockey more seriously if he wanted to be an NHL regular , DeAngelo told Yzerman to “fuck off”

Yzerman then traded him to Phoenix

If these two are comparable, I dont think Yzerman drafts Merkley.

SwedishPoster

Kinger_Oil.redux: – You mean the Finn who plays for Carolina? They are going to train together?

– Pool able to play in the top-6 properly would solve a lot for us IMO: its a big opportunity

Yep. They’ll be part of the same training group.

Oil2Oilers

SwedishPoster: Oh. Sorry for being unclear. I mean the nordic Sebastian Aho.

Sorry for being a dink.

Lets hope they train with Jouko Ahola https://youtu.be/9V_PbCLCfv0

Rondo

SwedishPoster,

Have you seen NILS LUNDKVIST play hockey? any opinion if so?

dustrock

Jesse has a huge frame and I’m sure playing elite-level hockey as a growing young man, it’s going to have an effect on his body.

When he has his man strength, opposing teams better watch out.

dustrock

Not sure if I pick Merkley at 9, though you could argue it definitely on talent.

But if he’s there around 20-25, if I’m Chia, I’m trading to get that pick.

Getting Wahlstrom/Smith/Bouchard and Merkley in 1 round would be unbelievable.

The Flyers have #14 and 19, maybe they’d trade the 19 for someone more roster ready from Edmonton.

ArmchairGM

Jaxon: Yup. He has some issues but that kind of drop seems extreme. Other players who had character issues leading up to the draft: Klingberg, Eeli Tolvanen, Erik Karlsson, and current fellow prospect Adam Boqvist was mentioned as having character issues at the start of the season. His skills are elite and he is only 17 afterall. There is a lot of room for growth at that age. Not sure if take him at #12, but I would in the twenties.

But if this means we can get him at #40, I’m not going to dispute the current rankings.

McSorley33

Since 2010, the club has been (mostly) drafting in wonderful places in the first round.
*********************************************************************************************************
Yep. And drafting from amazing places in the 2nd rounds as well….

Tyler Benson: “Flashes of brilliance, ***his skating may not be up to par to NHL standards**** now, but he’s an intelligent player, so perhaps he could be an efficient third liner for Edmonton one day.”

We are here.

Confused

Markley is 45 in central scouting NA only list.

When we add in International skaters and perhaps a goalie or two.

He actually is more like 60 – 70

Kinger_Oil.redux

Woodguy v2.0:
According to this report, Jesse Puljujarvi won’t be going to the World Hockey Championships. JP told Iltalehde “there has been little trouble, they must now be put in order. I now need a good and intact training course.”

Sounds like JP is the 34.423rd 19/20 year old to be told :”If you want to survive and thrive in the NHL you must become an elite athlete so you need to start training like an elite athlete and that starts now”

I hope JP took it well and understands it.

This is good news.

– His agent might add: “next year will determine your pay for lots of years: play well and you will get paid.” I think Pool likes Raha (aka Money) as much as the next guy…

SwedishPoster

Rondo:
SwedishPoster,

Have you seen NILS LUNDKVIST play hockey? any opinion if so?

Yes I have. Ironically, considering earlier posts today, he sort of reminds of the swedish Sebastian Aho but a righty version. Small, good puckmover and skater, smart defensively, some skill but not very creative offensively, not a lot of natural. Did well in the SHL which is impressive but his upside is kinda hard to gauge since he holds his own but isn’t superdynamic or showing much brilliance, hard to tell if it’s just because he’s a young kid in a strong men’s league or he just lacks an extra gear. His game has been a similar steady one the few times I’ve seen him against his peers, could be that he’s just smart but low key but he rarely blows your mind.

Munny

You know when you think about it… Puljujärvi really did have a Swimsuit Season.

Rondo

SwedishPoster,

Thanks, he is young and playing in the SHL. Turns 18 July 27th.

Confused

Still looking for RHD and don’t like the FEL, SHL

Joel Persson or Linus Hultstrom?

McSorley33

The Pacific division playoffs is like watching old vs new theories on how to build NHL teams.

Rocknrolla

Major things to consider when trading the no 9 pick

No. 9 pick (or better?):
Potential impact in 2019, likely 2020-21
Controlled for at least 7-9 years
Cost certainty low 3years, maybe more
Expansion draft exempt

Player Traded For:
Hopefully immediate impact
Under contract 1-6 years?
Cost likely higher than ELC for first 3 and avg overall
Expansion draft available.

Are the top 10 picks more important after CMD or before….

SwedishPoster

Rondo:
SwedishPoster,

Thanks, he is young and playing in the SHL.Turns 18 July 27th.

Yeah, which in itself is impressive and should warrant him being picked in the first two rounds. We might get a better grasp on his upside during the U18s, can he be a force against his peers or does he stay in the middle of the road.

Dustylegnd

Woodguy v2.0:
According to this report, Jesse Puljujarvi won’t be going to the World Hockey Championships. JP told Iltalehde “there has been little trouble, they must now be put in order. I now need a good and intact training course.”

Sounds like JP is the 34.423rd 19/20 year old to be told :”If you want to survive and thrive in the NHL you must become an elite athlete so you need to start training like an elite athlete and that starts now”

I hope JP took it well and understands it.

This is good news.

Here is the amazing thing, the Oilers knew this kid was from the hinterland of Finland, spoke no english, would suffer serious culture shock, and struggle to adapt to life in the NHL.

How was it that only this past year, the organization hired an English tutor for this kid?

If Jesse is serious about adapting to life in Canada and the NHL, and realizes he is behind the development curve vs a number of his contemporaries drafted lower…….should he not take two months to train back home, return to Canada, and seek out a best in class hockey trainer (Roberts) bond with his captain, and immerse himself in everything NA??

This kid seems to be a glaring example of the broken development system within the Oilers….I am just shocked English lessons were not mandatory from day 1, this kid is a very different project, does it not seem obvious he needs a customized development program

To me this story stinks of organizational incompetence….seriously how hard is this stuff

jtblack

McSorley33:
Since 2010, the club has been (mostly) drafting in wonderful places in the first round.
*********************************************************************************************************
Yep. And drafting from amazing places in the 2nd rounds as well….

Tyler Benson: “Flashes of brilliance, ***his skating may not be up to par to NHL standards**** now, but he’s an intelligent player, so perhaps he could be an efficient third liner for Edmonton one day.”

We are here.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement. Skating is “choppy” for sure.

Skipped on Debrincat. Now we have a guy we “hope” can be a 3rd liner.

Buts lets be honest. If we can get a 2nd round pick to the NHL, that would be a win for Edm.

Dustylegnd

SwedishPoster: Or he was injured and some hockey experts assuming they know everything haven’t done their research so they extrapolate guided by their bias. Looking at you Craig Simpson.

He is a MSM conduit for the OBC….

Side

Dustylegnd:

How was it that only this past year, the organization hired an English tutor for this kid?

This kid seems to be a glaring example of the broken development system within the Oilers….I am just shocked English lessons were not mandatory from day 1, this kid is a very different project, does it not seem obvious he needs a customized development program

To me this story stinks of organizational incompetence….seriously how hard is this stuff

This is a good read on Jesse’s english:

https://www.coppernblue.com/2018/2/21/17036760/jesse-puljujarvi-nhl-edmonton-oilers-news-prospect-deployment-good-young-draft-player

A blurb:

“Naturally Oilers fans exploded over the sheer incompetence of a team that would neglect to get a teacher for their top prospect. There wasn’t really any context given, but none was needed. When you have one playoff appearance in 12 years, you don’t get the benefit of the doubt.

What Jesse did have however, was an English tutor. The same one who worked with Nail Yakupov. They also had Iiro Pakarainen helping him learn the language both in Edmonton and Bakersfield.

To differentiate the difference between Tutor and Teacher seems incredibly semantic in North American dialect, but for a Finnish person, that’s a huge difference. Teachers are treated and respected like doctors over there. They’re not just the person giving you homework and sending you to the principal’s office for chasing a kid around with a chair over your head that one time, they’re the people responsible for your knowledge.

In this context, a teacher is a lot more formal training. They’ll teach fundamental English, issue assignments, and work to get you to an educated level. A tutor is more for conversational and functional levels. This is what Jesse has had the entire time.”

I believe the confusion came around the fact that Jesse was learning English before going to the Oilers and when he was with the Oilers. But Jesse was still struggling with the language so the Oilers hired an additional resource (a teacher).

SwedishPoster

Oil2Oilers: Sorry for being a dink.

Lets hope they train with Jouko Ahola https://youtu.be/9V_PbCLCfv0

I don’t think you were a dink. I just made a (not very funny) geography based joke.

SwedishPoster

Dustylegnd: He is a MSM conduit for the OBC….

Doesn’t really make him an insider on Jesse’s training regime or attitude just an insider on OBCs view on Jesse’s training. There’s a difference.

I trust finnish hockey people more in that regard and they tell a different story.

Rocknrolla

SwedishPoster: swedish

2 Surgeries the last 2 off-seasons?????

Anyone else first hearing this now? Could explain a lot of the treatment and performance…

So if this year is the first non surgery off season with full pro athlete training should we expect a big jump? Do we try to sign him July 1 to friendly contract with this news?

Woodguy v2.0

SwedishPoster: Or he was injured and some hockey experts assuming they know everything haven’t done their research so they extrapolate guided by their bias. Looking at you Craig Simpson.

Good point.

Could be.