School’s Out

by Lowetide

As the Edmonton Oilers arrive at the doors of free agency July 1, I am generally pleased with how things have rolled out so far this offseason. Peter Chiarelli kept his powder dry right to the edge of free agency, can he continue? The draft went well, the prospects have progressed, there should be some free-agent bargains by July 6-10. It’s a different summer, but that’s not a bad thing.

Complete highlights here.

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FREE AGENT WINGERS

These names have been reported (Jason Gregor had Comeau yesterday afternoon, as did Adrian Dater, don’t know who was first) and I threw Jesse Puljujarvi in for fun. I’m a big fan of adding players in their mid-20s, so Rieder and Czarnik are my picks from this group. Matt Calvert (not included here) is also a strong option.

PROJECTED ROSTER

  • My nominees for penalty killers: Connor McDavid, Jujhar Khaira, Tobias Rieder, Leon Draisaitl, Zack Kassian, Nuge. Some sweet day 97 and 29 won’t PK, giving them more torque for the shift after the penalty kill, but the bottom six forwards need help.
  • I was looking around for free agent scorers on the wing after adding Rieder, but Kailer Yamamoto has a strong chance to make it and his bonus numbers are minimal.
  • I haven’t added Evan Bouchard to the mix. Yet.

Oilers management has to be pleased with the performance of feature kids from the last two draft classes. Kailer Yamamoto was the offensive star, with Evan Bouchard displaying calm feet and scoring with a howitzer. Kirill Maksimov is the best sniper in the system, he’s showing all the signs of being a draft steal from 2017. Stuart Skinner performed well, the big man will need a strong training camp in order to move up the depth chart (he could start in the WHL, ECHL or play in the AHL next season). Ryan McLeod impressed, George McPhee impressed (Pronman liked him before his draft day). We’ll see you in September, men. I couldn’t make the game, but Klak came through with an outstanding complete player summary.

  • Boxcars: 35gp, 4-4-8
  • Corsi for 5×5: 48.53
  • Corsi Rel 5×5: -3.55
  • 5×5 points per 60: 1.14
  • 5×4 points per 60: nil

Koekkoek is a bigger defenseman and a fabulous skater, with some offensive ability. His numbers since turning pro don’t suggest a difference maker in terms of scoring but he’s an attractive asset at age 24.

Strickland went on to say that it would probably be after July 1, when a considerable bonus will have been paid out by Edmonton. I wonder if the Oilers are going to get much relief (cap) from a deal, seems to me we’re looking at retaining dollars or taking on a contract similar in scope. Someone suggested Patrik Berglund yesterday, that’s an interesting idea. For me, the rule that says a general manager is more likely to be stubborn on his own recruits applies here.

Don’t discount a ‘Laredo’ option, something out of left field. Kovar would represent something similar to signing Mikko Koskinen.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun morning as we kickstart the long weekend together. TSN1260, beginning at 10:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. If Tavares chooses Toronto, does the rest of Canada separate?
  • Paul Almeida, SSE. World Cup on to the next phase and it’s insane!
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. Free agency, trades, Tavares, the eve of crazy.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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Ryan

rickithebear: RNH was the 2nd worst PK fwd of 191
Khaira was the 10th best.
Strome was #40

Comeau was #48

Khaira was in the category of ‘not an NHL centre’ relative to his weak side faceoff win % last season. Hope it improves.

https://theathletic.com/357115/2018/05/18/dellow-how-canadas-teams-look-on-strong-side-vs-weak-side-faceoffs-and-how-matthews-is-better-than-mcdavid/

stephen sheps

Melvis,

I loved this post so much. That is all.

rickithebear

OriginalPouzar:
I in no way think that Bear is ready for the NHL right now but, as far as injury call-ups, he’s the only prospect D going to Bakersfield that I feel could be ready at some point this year.

Maybe Lagesson but we’ve yet to see him play.

I know that,

Not questioning you.

Just relative to the GA fix.

He is not it.

Soup Fascist

geowal: Why would a “real” NHL defenseman want to sign to be 7D? That position needs to cost less than 750k in this org. If his name was Keegan Wilbury would you still object?

At a minimum we would know he was used to Travelling, useful – as the Oilers start the season in Europe.

Just be sure to Handle him With Care.

OriginalPouzar

Yup, Nuge was 43% on SH FO% but 63% on the PP to top the team regulars.

Professor Q

rickithebear: RNH was the 2nd worst PK fwd of 191
Khaira was the 10th best.
Strome was #40

Comeau was #48

To be fair, the entire Oilers’ PK was absolutely terrible. Worst 5 in history and worst at home in history, I believe?

And how many PKM did each of those players have?

SwedishPoster

Always liked Kovar. Love his style, kind of an old school vibe to him, an eighties a Soviet playmaker. Pretty good defensively as well but inconsistent and not sure his smooth style is a great NHL fit but I would certainly like to see them give him a shot. Very enjoyable player.

rickithebear

OriginalPouzar: Leon Draisait on the PP

Nuge was close to 50% on the faceoff last year – Khaira as well.

RNH was the 2nd worst PK fwd of 191
Khaira was the 10th best.
Strome was #40

Comeau was #48

GB&Q

bendelson,

the new Iceage album is super good.
and not necessarily new new, but i’m listening to a lot of
Elder – Reflections of a Floating World
Khruangbin
The True Loves
Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio (check them out on KEXP’s YouTube)
The Men – Drift

Melvis

VOR,

No problem. You’ve laid out some good points. I tend to hold my breath a bit unless it’s straight out of the horse’s mouth.

Oz

VOR: Let me start with the obvious background. It isn’t actually true. Like most urban myths it starts with something real and spins it and retells it and embellishes it.

The true part I am not going to talk about here. Because it is nobody’s business. Athletes are entitled to their private lives.

Don’t get me wrong. I love gossip. I have indulge in it frequently. And I think speculation about the factors determining human performance is a legitimate aspect of fandom. But there is a nasty degree of malice lurking behind the falsehoods being spread against Milan Lucic to which I don’t wish to be a party.

So I am going to say it for the record. These are the facts.

Milan Lucic isn’t fat.
Milan Lucic isn’t unfit.
Terrell Owens didn’t break Milan Lucic.
Milan Lucic’s family didn’t “move out”.

So the background on this story is accidentally or on purpose somebody or possibly multiple someones have created a malignant rumour and not the first in this player’s case. No wonder he is asking (notice not demanding) to be traded. And no wonder his wife is a little frigging upset.

Excellent post VOR
would like to add that so many people in the public domain should also have their “private lives” respected ….. even politicians!!

Tesla's Hair

Jethro Tull: shep

Current summer of 2018 music?

Well I just accidently turned my wrist with the time infinity stone and I am currently listening to this recording made April 9, 1860 on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OYqOiHtpz8

Unknown Singer . Track: “Claire de la lune”

VOR

Melvis,

Great post. Hadn’t read it when I posted. I have just been getting angrier since this garbage about Milan’s family in the last thread was first posted. Didn’t mean to chill your wonderful post.

VOR

meanashell11:
To go back to the last thread, there were comments that Lucic’s family had moved out last year. I never heard that before. What is the background on that?

Let me start with the obvious background. It isn’t actually true. Like most urban myths it starts with something real and spins it and retells it and embellishes it.

The true part I am not going to talk about here. Because it is nobody’s business. Athletes are entitled to their private lives.

Don’t get me wrong. I love gossip. I have indulge in it frequently. And I think speculation about the factors determining human performance is a legitimate aspect of fandom. But there is a nasty degree of malice lurking behind the falsehoods being spread against Milan Lucic to which I don’t wish to be a party.

So I am going to say it for the record. These are the facts.

Milan Lucic isn’t fat.
Milan Lucic isn’t unfit.
Terrell Owens didn’t break Milan Lucic.
Milan Lucic’s family didn’t “move out”.

So the background on this story is accidentally or on purpose somebody or possibly multiple someones have created a malignant rumour and not the first in this player’s case. No wonder he is asking (notice not demanding) to be traded. And no wonder his wife is a little frigging upset.

Melvis

Pescador,

Thanks man. I appreciate it. I’m never sure about these things. Mostly because there are so many dudes here living their first and second acts whose preferred tastes and genres seem somewhat removed from mine. And I haven’t been able to keep up since global music diversification from the advent and onslaught of the digital age.

I can only hope comparitively good music across the ages wins out in the end.

Melvis

And while I’m in my cups. I’m more of a lover than a hater, but please stop reminding of that boil on my ass…the Hall trade. There are only about three four on my list, and Peter takes up most of that space.

As for Lucic, he nearly did me in with the bitching about chapped lips and dry skin in an Edmonton winter climate. There are balms for that…fer fucks sake. Those older interviews about life in Boston and LA are also worth a peek these days. They say a lot a lot about heart and personal preferences and where he should go as soon as possible.

Pescador

Melvis,

I’m not trying to take sides here but if I could break my chain I’d go after you too Melvis!
Dynamite post, just awesome

Melvis

Also, for those who play keys…I found the Fagen piano lessons with Warren Bernhardt quite fascinating. Here’s an example…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP_2r9zbaIY

Melvis

bendelson,

Whoo boy. Big question. Long summer weekends. I tend to eschew indie/contemporary and go back a bit to other happy long summer weekends. Plus I’m feeling a bit boozy now after the neighbour’s German shepherd guard dog broke his lead and went after me in my backyard around 9:00 am. Major contretemps when the Bylaw officers finally appeared three hours after the fact. Anyway…

I halted “Wide Awake” after the first bar and went here: Hi Julie, how you doing…lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcC-SbcihKI&frags=pl%2Cwn

So it’s a lot of calming nostalgia, plus well oiled and holed memory and a significant dash of grooves over four decades. Plus all over the effin map.

The Hissing of Summer Lawns (thematic, of course), Court and Spark, Miles of Aisles (i met that crew backstage at the Universal Amphitheatre in ’74) Plus she’s a Saskatoon girl.

Supersttion and Fullfillingness… Stevie Wonder (meet and greet at Studio Instrument Rentals rehearsals)

Lots and lots of Motown, which I grew up on. Grandpa’s six transistor on the farm late at night and I could catch that station in Windsor across form Detroit, not to mention Wolfman Jack and various other things I could pull in from below the Mason Dixon line.

I had Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music (Bete Noir) on earlier today.

A lot of Youssou N’dour.

Jimmy Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughn as well.

Jeff Beck Group and Rough and Ready.

Remy Shand. The Way I Feel

Massive Attack and Portishead later tonight. Maybe some Peggy Lee as well.

Fagen’s ” Florida Room”. Just because I could go out back and take in the odour of some old dusty ornage trees at one time on the other coast.

Steely Dan at the moment. Two Against Nature.

For a lot of reasons. “off to Barbados, just for the ride”, “meet me at midnight at Mr. Chow”, “drive west on Sunset to the sea, turn that jungle music down”. In a ’59 Porshce 356, of course;-)
Plus I’m in love with backup singers. In this case Vicky Cave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yakwMSqOEXw&frags=pl%2Cwn

A lot of gap filling inbetween. Too many to mention really. Next three days. A helluva good lot of art and music related mimesis and mitosis.

And then Godot reminded me of Coltrane. Sheesh. It’s a never ending story.

OriginalPouzar

I in no way think that Bear is ready for the NHL right now but, as far as injury call-ups, he’s the only prospect D going to Bakersfield that I feel could be ready at some point this year.

Maybe Lagesson but we’ve yet to see him play.

rickithebear

OriginalPouzar: You are missing an important point – the prospects aren’t ready and need to stay in Bakersfield and not be called up 7 games in to the season so that Keegan Lowe doesn’t play.

Who in the AHL is going to be ready?Bear is the only one that might realistically be ready.

Jones struggled last season as a rookie pro.I expect improvement this year but he needs time.

Lagesson – he’s just back from overseas – he needs some time – he’s a rookie pro in N. America.

Bear 18gm -11
80gm -55 ?
Goals against ?

rickithebear

Lowetide:
For the Athletic: Two years later the Taylor Hall trade remains an open wound
https://theathletic.com/413923/2018/06/29/lowetide-two-years-later-the-taylor-hall-trade-remains-an-open-wound/

One of my theories:
Belichek and me:
You want the best repeatable baseline performance players.
You want as minimal goal resulting mistakes
per 22 shift for forwards.
Per 26 shift for Dman.
This is why I always defended staples mistake aproach.
Cause I was already breaking down player performance as part of that.

We traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson.

The goal is to win cups.
Every cup winner has had a base roster.
Adam Larsson is a top 10 HD goal diff affect dman.
Teams need 3+ top 60.
Thier is one top 10 available for every 3 teams.

When judging Hall we judge the player traded.
10-11 to 13-14 thier were 3.585 82 gm season worth of games. (48 = .585)
Hall averaged
68gm 26g 63p -6

His last 2 seasons in Edmonton
He averaged
67gm 23g 52p -3
A top 60 forward. Thier are 2 available per team.

It is at this point those that have played football and rugby realize durability is part of base line performance.

Hall missed 15 games a season were he was replaced by a #13-17 fwd.
The team win % was .25 meaning 7-8 points out of those games.
To get 95pt we needed 87 of 134 possible points. A 107 season point pace
A built in difficult path to playoffs.

To further prove who we traded
Hall was 72gm 20g 53p -9
His first season in NJ.

Hall in an interview stated he finally was starting to listen to coaching.
This year with NJD.

Hall was league MVP when he listened to coaching.
Shame he was not that with us .
He was a top 60 offensive forward who lack of dura bility all but made it impossible for us to make the playoffs as we built up cup roster depth.

Larsson s cup roster value was 6 times higher than hall’s.

I did not read your article LT.
As my wife is finally getting a subscription for me.

I tire of articles who talk of hall the MVP.
He was never that with us.
Or the first year in NJ.

Wevdo not know if he would have listened to coaching in EDM.

pts2pndr

OriginalPouzar: Why would we need them to sign a 2-way contract? Makes no difference to anyone but the player and Katz.

My thinking is that most players would want assurances of getting a shot at the NHL otherwise most would be able to sign in Europe. Edmonton had to assure caggulia NHL playing time to get him to sign out of college. I am assuming they want more than a contract to continue in the AHL.

Primetime

Oilman99: The brutal start of the season could put the team in a ditch they never get out of. Can’t believe the league would treat a team this way after they agree to go to Europe .

Agree the start to our North American season is brutal, but I don’t think the NHL sees it us the Oilers doing them a favour by “agreeing” to go to Europe. I think many teams actively bid to be the team to go…not only grows the game, but grows the team brand itself…selling Oiler jerseys and merchandise in Europe lines Katz’s pockets as much as in North America. In fact, I’m pretty sure I read where Bob Nicholson is already banging the drum to let the Oilers go to China to start the year the following season as well….

The Trade Guy

Lowetide:
For the Athletic: Two years later the Taylor Hall trade remains an open wound
https://theathletic.com/413923/2018/06/29/lowetide-two-years-later-the-taylor-hall-trade-remains-an-open-wound/

Oh no you don’t. I’m not reliving this!

ashley

It surprises me in threads like this how obscure the suggestions are. I don’t know much about music, but I’ve never heard of any of these bands or songs that have been suggested. That’s ok in itself as music, like many other things discussed here (food, BBQ, cooking, wine, liquor) are quite personal, and it’s possible some people have obscure personal tastes. How is it possible that everyone who comments has obscure personal music tastes?

No one mentions bands like U2, Pink Floyd, Nirvana, Pink, Metallica, T. Swift, Ed Sheeran, The Killers, Marianas Trenches? I mean they are “pop”ular bands, and by nature, liked by more people than other bands. Yet not one mention of any of these thousands of mainstream, well-known bands by this vast cross section of humanity at LT?

Weird.

Maybe I missed something in the original request that specified a specific music genre.

rickithebear

godot10: The Oilers wasted 3 years of McDavid’s Oiler career already not playling Nugent-Hopkins with McDavid. McDavid scored materially more points and goals with Nugent-Hopkins than anybody else he has played with.And you want to throw that fish back in the ocean trying to find another one as good.

For a coach who couldn’t recognize the diamond he is hand for three years, who only played him with McDavid as an afterthought before he planned on having him shipped out like Hall. The team that thought trading Hall was a good idea.The team that thought Milan Lucic was a good idea.

Nugent-Hopkins is certainly in the 99th percentile of best forward options to play with McDavid.That is good enough.He is entering the best years of his career, and is signed to a great contract with some term left.

2 bullshit good goal calls kept a strong GA d team. From reaching a conference final.
In Mcdavid 2nd year.

I read page after page this year of we are missing this offence and we need to get more offence from our d.

When comparing seasons
We look at goal diff.
16-17 +36
17-18 -33
We were 69 goal diff worse this year.

Goals for
16-17 243
17-18 229
EG 172 – 172 Even
PPG 56 – 31 (-25)
SHG 4 – 10 (+6)
ENG 10 – 15 (+5)
We were -14 in gf

Goals against
16-17 207
17-18 262
EVG 146 – 182 (-36)
PKGA 40 – 57 (-17)
SHGA 5 – 5 (Ev)
ENGA 14 – 16 (-2)
We were -55 in GA.

When looking at this what is any practical intelligent person going to try and improve first.
Even GA?

Unless thier was an obvious system change from playoff success to failure.
You might want to switch back to the other system.

Then I would want to improve Special team performance.
Which could also be system change.

OriginalPouzar

pts2pndr: How many are willing to sign a two way contract? Therein lies the rub!

Why would we need them to sign a 2-way contract? Makes no difference to anyone but the player and Katz.

pts2pndr

Oilman99:
There are some pretty good twenty something ufa’s out there, why not sign three or four of them and see if one of them can become a top six prospect in the Bake.

How many are willing to sign a two way contract? Therein lies the rub!

jm363561

“The Drew Doughty sweepstakes have ended a year before they were slated to begin. The Los Angeles Kings announced Friday that they have agreed to terms on an eight-year contract extension with their prized defenseman.

The deal will reportedly be worth an average annual value of around $11 million, and will keep the perennial All-Star in LA through the 2027 campaign.

Doughty, who was slated to become an unrestricted free agent on July 1, 2019, becomes the Kings’ highest paid player and the wealthiest blue-liner league wide — until Erik Karlsson inks his next contract, at least.“

Yahoo Sports. Guess we have to look elsewhere for our 7D?

Psyche

Lowetide,

Terrific read! Great work LT!

jm363561

BornInAGretzkyJersey:
Last year I noticed that Gryba was a little quicker on the first step and he didn’t chop the puck square as he so often did in his first year with the Oil.He was cheap, familiar with the team and its systems, and by all accounts was well liked.One of his best traits was being able to do extended stints in the press box and not need any time to step in and contribute.Flushing him from the roster and not using his performance as a baseline of expectations for ascending farmhands was, in my view, foolish.

The contract for Lowe Jr wasn’t the problem, it’s that they intentionally incurred a negative cap hit to not have someone at an established baseline position to create internal competition.Someone to make Lowe or any other player bypass Gryba for a call-up based on merit.

Totally agree. Gryba was an ideal 7D in many ways. Never complained, never let the team down, and was a physical presence. They have flushed him, hit the cap available, and now seem to be looking for a similar replacement.

BornInAGretzkyJersey

Last year I noticed that Gryba was a little quicker on the first step and he didn’t chop the puck square as he so often did in his first year with the Oil. He was cheap, familiar with the team and its systems, and by all accounts was well liked. One of his best traits was being able to do extended stints in the press box and not need any time to step in and contribute. Flushing him from the roster and not using his performance as a baseline of expectations for ascending farmhands was, in my view, foolish.

The contract for Lowe Jr wasn’t the problem, it’s that they intentionally incurred a negative cap hit to not have someone at an established baseline position to create internal competition. Someone to make Lowe or any other player bypass a “Gryba” for a call-up based on merit.

Glass

I’m not sure why people wouldn’t want Brodziak… he is one of the best 4C’s in the league is he not? Who would you guys prefer? I think Khaira can play higher in the line-up.. 3LW or 2Lw (he didn’t look out of place next to Drai imo).

Oilman99

godot10: The Oilers wasted 3 years of McDavid’s Oiler career already not playling Nugent-Hopkins with McDavid. McDavid scored materially more points and goals with Nugent-Hopkins than anybody else he has played with.And you want to throw that fish back in the ocean trying to find another one as good.

For a coach who couldn’t recognize the diamond he is hand for three years, who only played him with McDavid as an afterthought before he planned on having him shipped out like Hall. The team that thought trading Hall was a good idea.The team that thought Milan Lucic was a good idea.

Nugent-Hopkins is certainly in the 99th percentile of best forward options to play with McDavid.That is good enough.He is entering the best years of his career, and is signed to a great contract with some term left.

At the time the Oilers had to play RNH at centre because he was the only legitimate option for a two way centre that could compete against the other team’s top line.

OriginalPouzar

godot10: It was bad roster management, because it got Draisaitl paid, and almost got Nugent-Hopkins traded.Nugent-Hopkins already had a contract. He was the one who should have been tried with McDavid first.

With our top 2 centers having an average age of 19.5, we probably miss the playoffs in 2016/17.

Oilman99

OriginalPouzar: Doesn’t really work that way when they start in Europe and then a 4-5 game road trip on the east coast.

I also don’t agree with the premise and the coaching staff and management would use the extra bodies when injuries hit.

The brutal start of the season could put the team in a ditch they never get out of. Can’t believe the league would treat a team this way after they agree to go to Europe .

who

Bank Shot: If the Oilers bought out Gryba so Lowe can be the one to sit in the pressbox its actually a 1 million dollar cap hit and stupid beyond belief.

I hold out hope the Oilers aren’t at that level but you never know with this club.

I agree they should have just kept Gryba. But they didn’t.
And if Lowe starts the season as the 7th dman that tells me the Oilers rate him higher than Gryba. I haven’t seen enough of him to form an opinion either way.
Either way it’s not that big a deal. No matter how many times OP insists that it is. Stating an opinion 100 times doesn’t make it any more valid.

Psyche

nelson88:
Founding member of Brodziak fan club. Still blame LT’s son for getting him traded. Don’t want him back at 34

Ditto.

Psyche

godot10,

That’s a good point. I always wondered why it took so long for the coach and manager to put the Nuge with McJesus. They appeared to think the game similarly and seemed to be an obvious pairing.

godot10

OriginalPouzar:
In 2016/17, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins played 42% of his even strength minutes at center against elite competition.I wonder if taking those tough minutes, among the toughest for a forward in the NHL, helped McDavid and Drai form one of the NHL’s best duos?

It was bad roster management, because it got Draisaitl paid, and almost got Nugent-Hopkins traded. Nugent-Hopkins already had a contract. He was the one who should have been tried with McDavid first.

Scungilli Slushy

godot10: The Oilers wasted 3 years of McDavid’s Oiler career already not playling Nugent-Hopkins with McDavid. McDavid scored materially more points and goals with Nugent-Hopkins than anybody else he has played with.And you want to throw that fish back in the ocean trying to find another one as good.

For a coach who couldn’t recognize the diamond he is hand for three years, who only played him with McDavid as an afterthought before he planned on having him shipped out like Hall. The team that thought trading Hall was a good idea.The team that thought Milan Lucic was a good idea.

Nugent-Hopkins is certainly in the 99th percentile of best forward options to play with McDavid.That is good enough.He is entering the best years of his career, and is signed to a great contract with some term left.

Nuge wouldn’t have been a great option in Connor’s first years because they had no established centre depth and Connor had a hunting target on his back. He did end up with a lengthy and thankfully not hampering injury.

As Leon was ‘more’ able to run L2 and Connor was established enough to ‘earn’ league protection, Nuge moved up.

Yes perhaps too late, but the season was well gone early with the injuries and slumping players. We don’t know what they were trying to accomplish in a lost season as much as it sucks.

Scungilli Slushy

OriginalPouzar:
In 2016/17, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins played 42% of his even strength minutes at center against elite competition.I wonder if taking those tough minutes, among the toughest for a forward in the NHL, helped McDavid and Drai form one of the NHL’s best duos?

Absolutely it had to.

Scungilli Slushy

ArmchairGM: Pretty meh. Small sample size, but I like his numbers with Draisaitl much, much better. Among current Oilers players, the ideal top-9 based on WOWY’s is this:

Nugent-Hopkins – McDavid – Puljujarvi
Khaira – Draisaitl – Kassian
Lucic – Strome – Yamamoto

McDavid WOWY’s: http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?season=20172018&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=n&v=t&playerid=8478402

Draisaitl WOWY’s: http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?season=20172018&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=y&v=t&playerid=8477934

Strome WOWY’s: http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?season=20172018&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=y&v=t&playerid=8476458

Note: Yamamoto’s shot metrics with McDavid are better than Puljujarvi’s, but JP’s goal metrics are better (61.90 GF%), and in a much larger sample size. I would also be comfortable switching these two as we get a larger data sample to work with.

I don’t think Yama should start in the bigs, but i like that this forward group tries to put the guys that click together and the lines are balanced with size and skill.

I think with a healthy D group playing in the right slot it could be hard to beat, if not scoring the lights out.

nelson88

Founding member of Brodziak fan club. Still blame LT’s son for getting him traded. Don’t want him back at 34

OriginalPouzar

In 2016/17, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins played 42% of his even strength minutes at center against elite competition. I wonder if taking those tough minutes, among the toughest for a forward in the NHL, helped McDavid and Drai form one of the NHL’s best duos?

leadfarmer

I hope if we are looking at Brodziak it is a one year or at most 2 year contract. He’s at that age where role players fall apart at a moments notice

OriginalPouzar

godot10: The Oilers wasted 3 years of McDavid’s Oiler career already not playling Nugent-Hopkins with McDavid. McDavid scored materially more points and goals with Nugent-Hopkins than anybody else he has played with.And you want to throw that fish back in the ocean trying to find another one as good.

For a coach who couldn’t recognize the diamond he is hand for three years, who only played him with McDavid as an afterthought before he planned on having him shipped out like Hall. The team that thought trading Hall was a good idea.The team that thought Milan Lucic was a good idea.

Nugent-Hopkins is certainly in the 99th percentile of best forward options to play with McDavid.That is good enough.He is entering the best years of his career, and is signed to a great contract with some term left.

Actually, pretty much all of his metrics are better with Strome than with Nuge.

T0ML

We could go all out nuclear with an option “D” …..

RNH – McDavid – Drai

I mean I’d love too ee that when push comes to shove goal needed time. Works great since Drai seems to prefer C or RW if on wing to my recollection…