2018-19 Rookie Camp Game Two: Oilers vs. NAIT Ooks and MacEwan Griffins

The Edmonton Oilers added a third NHL player on a PTO Monday, this time rugged winger Alex Chiasson. He isn’t a perfect fit but there’s a story to tell and a job to be won. While we wait for the official training camp roster, Chiasson’s signing gives us some interesting things to ponder.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic made some big additions last week, including Daniel Nugent-Bowman joining the Edmonton staff. Daniel, Jonathan Willis, Minnia Feng, Pat McLean and me will deliver prose all winter long and there will be tons via the national desk from Tyler Dellow, Corey Pronman and Dom Luszczysyn. Special offer is here, less than $4 a month! Also, don’t forget to join us later this month (September 24, The Rec Room south side) for a get together and general merriment. I’m thrilled to be part of this group, hope you join us.

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Ethan Bear is providing inspiration for Indigenous youth through his hockey camp.
  • New Jonathan Willis: The arrival of Alex Chiasson gives the Oilers a crowd up front
  • The Athletic Cross Canada Tour Will hit Edmonton!
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19 Can the McDavid line lead the 2018-19 Oilers to the playoffs?
  • Lowetide: For Oilers young forwards, it’s what you create versus what you leave.
  • Lowetide: Ryan Mantha’s injury and uncertain recovery.
  • Lowetide: Oilers rookie camp roster offers options and balance.
  • Corey Pronman: The most intriguing prospect to watch at camp for every NHL team.
  • Jonathan Willis: Three different KHL stars, three different paths to NHL success.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Bringing something different to the Oilers beat.
  • Dom Luszczyszyn: 2018-19 season preview Edmonton Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Who will win the McDavid-line lottery?
  • Lowetide: The 2018-19 Oilers and what may come.
  • Lowetide: The 2015 draft and what was lost
  • Lowetide: Projecting the 2018-19 Oilers opening night roster
  • Lowetide: Where will Tobias Rieder land on the Oilers depth chart?

UPSHALL VERSUS CHIASSON

I like the relative youth of Chiasson, he might fit as a No. 4 right winger or depth player. He is rugged and can penalty kill, but both men would have to be considered less than ideal as options (Upshall’s SA/60 4-on-5 was 53.57, Chiasson’s was 66.81. As a comparable, Kassian was 49.58 one year ago). I think either man could make this team, unlikely both. Kassian might be a little vulnerable if Chiasson performs well, cap number is going to be an issue.

EVAN BOUCHARD

The Oilers are locked on to Evan Bouchard and you’re going to hear a lot about him this fall. Jay Woodcroft said nice things about him after the game yesterday and reiterated the verbal today.

  • Woodcroft: I think what we saw last night in Bouch was a poised player – somebody who gets his shot through on the back end and someone who can make passes. I think he sprung two or three guys on breakaways and 2-on-1’s.”

What does that mean? We’ll see him early and often in main camp and there’s a gigantic chance Bouchard makes the trip to Cologne in a few weeks. He’s such an impressive passer you can see why they like him, but those coverage gaps are going to eat him up some nights. We’ll see.

I think that’s fair and management has earned the pressure cooker. I will say that the decisions this summer are encouraging. Drafting Evan Bouchard, Ryan McLeod and Olivier Rodrigue, holding on to Oscar Klefbom, Jesse Puljujarvi and others, these are astute decisions. Short-term deals for big money talents (with the cost of the future) are for teams who are poised to add one or two final pieces. Edmonton is still working on a building.

As angry as fans are, and again I get it, we have to look at the situation as it stands. Edmonton doesn’t have a lot of cap room in order to wheel (I like most of their summer signings, specifically Tobias Rieder) and the only trade pieces that could fetch a handsome return are too vital to the team’s future success.

Stay the course. That’s the play here. The answers are going to come from the system, not from gigantic trades that send away young assets. We’re almost through the offseason and the biggest alarm bell so far was signing a KHL goalie to about $1.5 million more than ideal. No assets given up, the draft returned real quality and Jesse Puljujarvi is still on the roster.

I understand the importance of making the playoffs. More important? Making sure the team has enough depth and balance to push for the Stanley Cup starting 2020. The die is cast, the 2018-19 season isn’t going to result in a Stanley Cup, perhaps there will be no postseason. That’s the reality.

I think this team will be life and death for the playoffs, but I know at least some of Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Bouchard, Benson, Bear, Jones, Skinner and others will be closer to ready. Sucks to waste another McDavid season but we are here.

Is that what is going to happen? The addition of Chiasson lends credence to the idea that Kassian and a pick (or Khaira and a pick, in the case of Upshall) might be the price for Justin Faulk. LTIR Sekera (and pushing right to the cap edge before doing it) is an option the organization may pursue. We wait.

Darnell Nurse isn’t Bobby Orr, but I’m confident in saying his attendance in training camp is vital for this organization’s success. The Oilers simply don’t have enough back there on the blue to suffer losses of both Nurse and Andrej Sekera in the days leading up to 2018 training camp.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260. We have a strong show and many things to discuss. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, The Athletic. One year anniversary at The Athletic-Edmonton, plus what do all of these PTO’s mean?
  • Andrew Gross, Newsday Sports. The Islanders post-Tavares, Eberle’s walk season, expectations for 2018-19.
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Nurse/Nylander contracts, the Pacioretty trade, CFL heating up.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. It’ll be a hoot!

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234 Responses to "2018-19 Rookie Camp Game Two: Oilers vs. NAIT Ooks and MacEwan Griffins"

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    Messier’s nephew buries the 7th.

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Beautiful pass by Marody to set up McLeod for the tip in goal.

  3. Genjutsu says:

    Genjutsu,

    97 points for the Oilers 33 goals for yak city.

  4. GMB3 says:

    What a useful game for evaluating prospects. Yawn

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    I lost me feed with 5 min to go but it looks like the final was 9-1.

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    9th goal was Jones’, his 2nd of the night off a Bouchard feed cross the blueline.

  7. pts2pndr says:

    JimmyV1965: You’re betting that Faulk won’t find his game again. I think that’s very unlikely if he’s traded to another team. He was god awful in that last game against the Oil. That doesn’t mean he will be awful this year. I think I’m going to be very happy taking Faulk in the 20th round of my draft this year.

    That is not what either one of us are saying. What we are saying is that this move would be a high risk low reward type move!
    In my opinion this kind of deal may have negative effects moving forward past this year depending on the price of aquisition. His apparent loss of a step in his skating should be a red flag! His stats look better on paper than his play does on the ice. His contract is onerous for a team with cap constraints. Russel is already being payed for the 2 RD position. If you trade for faulk you leave yourself no room for the aquisition of upgrades at the deadline you also limit your ability to pick a player you like off the waiver wire. The negatives far outway the benefits in my opinion!

  8. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    GMB3:
    What a useful game for evaluating prospects. Yawn

    exactly what i was thinking… it was so one sided i actually started cheering for the griffin-ooks to score…

  9. Material Elvis says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    A nice wrist shot short side glove hand. Bouchard found him with a ton of open space.

  10. tileguy says:

    Mr Hunter please,
    Oil 102, Yak 14

  11. Material Elvis says:

    Although a terrible mismatch and not useful for evaluation, it’s still nice to see some of the talent in the system. The Oilers truly have some potential depth pieces in the pipeline. Benson and Marody have a very similar style and I think they can be impactful NHLers because of the vision and passing skill set. Jones appears to be progressing; he dominated tonight like a seasoned pro would. Bouchard’s vision and passing skill set is amazing — he looks awesome in these shinny games. McLeod is an interesting prospect. When he learns to drive to the front of the net consistently (like his goal from Marody tonight), he’s going to be hard to stop with that size and speed.

  12. JimmyV1965 says:

    pts2pndr: That is not what either one of us are saying. What we are saying is that this move would be a high risk low reward type move!
    In my opinion this kind of deal may have negative effects moving forward past this year depending on the price of aquisition. His apparent loss of a step in his skating should be a red flag! His stats look better on paper than his play does on the ice. His contract is onerous for a team with cap constraints. Russel is already being payed for the 2 RD position. If you trade for faulk you leave yourself no room for the aquisitionof upgrades at the deadline you also limit your ability to pick a player you like off the waiver wire. The negatives far outway the benefits in my opinion!

    What I am saying is that some team is going to get Faulk for pennies on the dollar. His play last year is very unlikely to be his play going forward, if he’s on another team. Geez, how many times have we seen a player on this team crap the bed, get traded for pennies on the dollar and resurrect their career on another team. This is a dman who routinely scores 15+ goals a year on a crappy team. For three years, he was fourth on the team in goals scored. He scored 15 in years when they didn’t have a single 30-goal guy. And I honestly don’t like the player that much. But if you can get him for Kassian and late round pick I do it every day of the week. Sure it screws up the cap, but it also leaves no room on the roster for guys like Bouchard and Bear, who should not be in the NHL.

  13. godot10 says:

    Lowetide:
    Cullen’s list is out

    McDavid 80, 39-69-108
    Draisaitl 78, 26-43-69
    Nuge 72, 26-30-56
    Lucic 81, 16-27-43
    Yamamoto 75, 11-24-35
    Rieder 79, 15-18-33
    Strome 76, 12-20-32
    Klefbom 74, 9-22-31

    https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-projected-top-300-scorers-1.1171167

    The Oilers will finish with less than 90 points and miss the playoffs with those individual point totals.

  14. bendelson says:

    A couple of rookie games are in the books, tickets have been selected (date nights are locked and loaded) and it’s snowing on my biannual trek to North Star. Smells like hockey season…

  15. JimmyV1965 says:

    I’ll just add that if you trade for Faulk and he scores 15 goals, you have an easily tradeable contract. In fact, you can trade him for more than the acquisition cost.

  16. godot10 says:

    OmJo: Yeah I was surprised it was so low. I wonder what his reasoning is behind it.

    Gonna throw another question for the community here: is Nugent-Hopkins scoring 56pts without playing any significant amount of time with McDavid still a disappointment? (Notice the GP as well).

    If Nugent-Hopkins is not getting significant time with McDavid, that means he is munching the tough minutes at centre with subpar wingers. So 56 points would be good.

    With McDavid, Nugent-Hopkins should be a point per game player, and McDavid should run away from everyone in the points race.

  17. godot10 says:

    Bling:

    I don’t know that you can say that Nurse’s lower marker for a contract is Hanifin. Hanifin is tracking much better than Nurse on a year by year basis. I think that Nurse ought to be pleased to get a Hanifin type deal. Anything substantially higher would be an overpay on Chia’s part, IMO.

    On a long term deal, the lower threshold is not only Hanifin, but also Matheson of Florida. Two contracts just under $5 million. Nurse has played at a marginally higher level than both of them.

    Nurse, Theodore, and Morrisey are all in the same boat. Both Vegas and Edmonton are under extreme pressure to get something done before the season.

  18. godot10 says:

    Lowetide:
    Caleb Jones is too good for the rookie tournament.

    Defensive puck transporters…i.e. D who can lug the puck, are going to look much better in lower level games than the passers. Jones can pass to. But the lack of structure and talent means puck transporters can free wheel in these games.

    Bear and Bouchard are primarily passers, so they will never shine as brightly in these games.

    Jones wasn’t able to bring this game at higher levels of competition last year. Maybe he will this year.

  19. OilSlickster says:

    hunter1909,

    Put me down for the ole 99 please
    And Yak pots 16

  20. OilSlickster says:

    jtblack,

    I died lmao

  21. Chris says:

    100 points
    13 goals for Yak

  22. jp says:

    103 Points for the Oilers
    28G for Yakupov

  23. OriginalPouzar says:

    One player I’ve been pleasantly surprised with through two games is Logan Day. He’s looked good in both games and has quite a bit of offensive skill which I didn’t now about. Looking through his stats, he was tied for the scoring lead on his college team so I guess offence is his game.

    He’s older, turning 24 soon so I guess he should stand out in a rookie/prospects game.

    I think he’s got a shot to have any every day role in Bakersfield.

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp:
    103 Points for the Oilers
    28G for Yakupov

    For those predicting Yak’s goals in the KHL, I’d remind some how low scoring that league is.

    28G would have been third in the league last year.

  25. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar: For those predicting Yak’s goals in the KHL, I’d remind some how low scoring that league is.

    28G would have been third in the league last year.

    But also that Nail had 10 G in 22 games in his last KHL season. If he plays 40-60 games this season…

  26. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: For those predicting Yak’s goals in the KHL, I’d remind some how low scoring that league is.

    28G would have been third in the league last year.

    That wasn’t lost on me, though thanks for the reminder.

    I figured the lofty goal total fit with the uh, optimistic point projection.

  27. ArmchairGM says:

    Professor Q: Hopefully they get in the playoffs, but if not, get a huge lottery win. Muahaha…

    Is Kaapo Kakko this generation’s Jarri Kurri?

  28. ArmchairGM says:

    Lowetide:
    Cullen’s list is out

    McDavid 80, 39-69-108
    Draisaitl 78, 26-43-69
    Nuge 72, 26-30-56
    Lucic 81, 16-27-43
    Yamamoto 75, 11-24-35
    Rieder 79, 15-18-33
    Strome 76, 12-20-32
    Klefbom 74, 9-22-31

    https://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-projected-top-300-scorers-1.1171167

    Where’s Jesse??

  29. Lowetide says:

    RE series continues with Leon Draisaitl and this three main wingers (Lucic, Rieder, Puljujarvi)

    https://theathletic.com/516333/2018/09/12/lowetide-leon-draisaitl-and-the-pursuit-of-a-second-outscoring-line-for-the-oilers-in-2018-19/

  30. Ryan says:

    ArmchairGM: Where’s Jesse??

    Not on the list.

  31. Yeti says:

    JimmyV1965: Geez, how many times have we seen a player on this team crap the bed, get traded for pennies on the dollar and resurrect their career on another team.

    I think we tend to remember those, and not the times that a player craps the bed and then keeps the crapping going until they are out of the league.

  32. smellyglove says:

    “I will say that the decisions this summer are encouraging… holding on to Oscar Klefbom, Jesse Puljujarvi and others, these are astute decisions.”

    Sure, but that’s a pretty low bar to hurdle LT. They haven’t yet poked their eyes out with sticks, so we call that a win.

  33. Skook says:

    Hopeless optimist – Oilers 104, Yak 27. Thanks, Hunter!

  34. ArmchairGM says:

    Ryan: Not on the list.

    He should be.

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