2018-19 Preseason Game Two: Oilers at Canucks

Saw. Him. Good. I used to read Baseball America religiously, and that publication would often interview scouts or run scouting reports. Old timey guys, I mean 90 year old men with faces of leather, would talk in unusual, scouting terms. The one I liked, taken from a Cardinals scout, was “saw him good” as he followed the exceptionally talented Dmitri Young all around America. Last night, I saw Evan Bouchard good, and there were others. It wasn’t a complete NHL roster to be sure, but the goaltender (David Rittich) was in the NHL a year ago and the rosters appeared to be balanced. Plenty of good stories for the road team.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: RE 18-19: A case for the defence.
  • New Lowetide: Oilers sign Nurse to a two-year deal.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Can Tobias Rieder be the perfect complement to Leon Draisaitl?
  • The Athletic Cross Canada Tour Will hit Edmonton!
  • New Corey Pronman: Ranking NHL teams by their U23 core.
  • New Lowetide: How do you replace a lost draft summer?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Even with more goaltending depth the Oilers are counting on return to form from Cam Talbot.
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19: Ryan Strome and the Oilers long journey to competent third and fourth lines
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19: Leon Draisaitl and the pursuit of a second outscoring line in ’18-19
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19: Can the McDavid line lead the 2018-19 Oilers to the playoffs?
  • Jonathan Willis: If the Oilers fail in 2018-19, it will probably be the same reason they failed in 2017-18.
  • Jonathan Willis: If the Oilers improve in ’18-19, they’ll do it on the back of special teams
  • Eric Duhatschek: Connor McDavid knows what ails the Oilers and how to improve it.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: How Ethan Bear is providing inspiration for Indigenous youth through his hockey camp.

LAST NIGHT GAME NOTES

They won! Woot! Most of the kids who have NHL trajectories played well and a couple of the veterans did enough to receive some kind words. It was a ‘quarter moon in a ten-cent town’ kind of night but beggars can’t be choosers. NHL.com and NaturalStatTrick provided the information below.

GOALIES

  1. No. 19 G Mikko Koskinen. Stopped 16 of 19 shots, .842 and 4.50. I’m not speechless much, but that performance is not easily described. The big goalie signing let many pucks through, I’m not sure he caught anything clean and he most certainly did not settle down. He’ll be better next time. One more like this one and Al Montoya is back in the NHL mix.
  2. No. 40 G Shane Starrett. Won the game, stopped five of six, .833 and 3.00. Looked calm compared to Koskinen, got beat on a weird goal (of course) but made some nice stops.

DEFENSE

  1. RD Evan Bouchard. 1-0-1, +3 24:31. Three shots, five shot attempts, one takeaway. I was very impressed in all areas. His goal was the results of heady play, a quick release and good instincts. He made several quality outlet passes, slowed the play often with calm feet. Went 8-7 Corsi for 5-on-5 with Ryan Stanton, a mostly effective pairing (some wobble from both men down low). Corsi for 5-on-5: 50 percent. 
  2. RD Ethan Bear. 1-0-1, E 21:45. Two shots, three shot attempts, two blocked shots. His power-play goal was terrific, wonder if he gets a chance to play 5-on-4 this week. I thought he was calm, made good passes and cut down on defensive miscues from rookie camp. Went 4-7 with Gravel and 4-1 with a goal in a small time frame with Bouchard.  Corsi for 5-on-5: 50 percent.
  3. RD Logan Day. 0-0-0 R 20:18. Two shots, five shot attempts, one giveaway and one takeaway. He’s a revelation in this camp, mobile and fearless. I don’t know what the hell they’re going to do with him, because if Day keeps playing this well someone will offer an NHL deal. Went 12-15 with Lagesson.  Corsi for 5-on-5: 47.22 percent. 
  4. LD Kevin Gravel. 0-2-2, +1 17:57. One shot, five shot attempts, two hits and two takeaways. He was excellent, including a wonderfully defended sortie against Flames winger Spencer Foo (who had him beat). An effective flick of the wrist and problem solves. Nice. Played with two main partners (4-7 5-on-5 per 60 in 7:12 with Bear, the duo 0-2 in 5-on-5 goal differential; 2-6 in 4:39 with Bouchard, the duo 1-0 in 5-on-5 goal differential). I think he was solid on a tough night in a tough town.  Corsi for 5-on-5: 36.36
  5. LD Ryan Stanton. 0-0-0, +2 17:30. One shot, two shot attempts, one hit and three blocked shots. I was less impressed with his decision making, he looked slower than the other lefties playing defense last night. Went 8-7 with Bouchard, 1-0 in GD. Bouchard was on the ice with him for the third Dube goal, Stanton made a very poor decision by leaving his position and turning things into a breakaway. He’s a veteran, that was a rookie play.  Corsi for 5-on-5: 50 percent. 
  6. LD William Lagesson. 0-0-0, -2 15:20. Three shot attempts, one hit, one giveaway. Mobile defender passed the puck well, although he lacks the creativity of Bouchard and Bear. He’s a better defender though and that has value. Went 12-15 on the third pairing with Logan Day, I liked his game. Corsi for 5-on-5: 43.33

CENTERS

  1. LC Ryan McLeod. 0-2-2, +1 22:21. Oh my! Two takeaways, 6-10 on the dot and two incredible assists. I can’t remember the last second-round pick who was squeezing out sparks in his first training camp like this guy. You have to think he’s going to get at least one more game. Goodness what an early run.  Went 10-12 with Benson and 8-13 with Yamamoto, line was 2-1 in goal differential. Corsi for 5-on-5: 47.06 percent. 
  2. RC Josh Currie. 0-0-0, E 16:01. Two shots, four shot attempts, two hits, 46 percent on 13 faceoffs. The truth is I didn’t notice him much, sorry to say. He was in a good spot on turnovers in the offensive zone a couple of times but couldn’t make anything rhyme. Went 12-10 on a line with Joe Gambardella and Pontis Aberg, 1-2 in goal differential. Corsi for 5-on-5: 50 percent. 
  3. LC Brad Malone. 0-0-0, +2 11:52. Two shots, four shot attempts, two hits, one giveaway, 55 percent on 11 faceoffs. He was what you might expect, solid in a two-way role but not much shaking offensively. Spent 17 minutes in the penalty box.  Went 8-9 with Russell and Chiasson, 1-1 in goal differential. Corsi for 5-on-5: 40.91 percent. 
  4. RC Tyler Vesel. 0-0-0, E 10:17. One shot, one blocked shot, 45 percent in 11 faceoffs. Led all centers with 1:40 on the penalty kill, that’s likely to be a major role for him in Bakersfield. Went 4-5 with Hebig and Polei on a line that had some moments but couldn’t cash.  Corsi for 5-on-5: 38.46 

LEFT WING

  1. L Tyler Benson. 0-2-2, +1 17:56. Two shots, two blocked shots. Did you see the passes? Music! Benson was noticeable all night with the puck on his stick and battled hard to get it back when not having possession. One of three forwards (McLeod, Yamamoto) who played over four power-play minutes.  Went 10-12 with McLeod and 8-12 with Yamamoto, they were impressive all night. Benson is a game rooster on both sides of the puck. Corsi for 5-on-5: 45.83 percent.
  2. L Joe Gambardella. 0-1-1, -1 14:10. Two shots, six shot attempts and one takeaway. He played in all disciplines, best moment came on a hard-working sortie where he simply beat the defenseman to the puck and wouldn’t give up on the opportunity. Lovely skill assist on the Aberg goal. He was 12-10 with Currie and Aberg. Corsi for 5-on-5: 55.56 percent, led all Oilers in this category.
  3. L Patrick Russell. 2-0-2, +1 13:00. Three shots, four shot attempts, two hits, one blocked shot. His first goal came on a dynamite feed from Chiasson, the second a Dave Lumley EN from Laredo. He forechecked well, he has some nice things. Went 10-10 with Malone and Chiasson.  Corsi for 5-on-5: 52.38. 
  4. L Evan Polei. 0-0-0, E 8:48. One fight, two shot attempts, one hit and two blocked shots. He was physical and showed good speed. I’m impressed. Rang one off the post, he was involved throughout the game. Impressive effort, went 4-5 with Vesel and Hebig. Corsi for 5-on-5: 33.33 percent, the lowest total for an Oilers player on the night.

RIGHT WING

  1. R Alex Chiasson. 0-2-2, +2 19:00. Two shots, three shot attempts, one hit, he also had a blocked shot. His pass to Russell was an impressive skill play. I’m not sure the Oilers will sign him, seems the die is cast for Scottie Upshall to make the team, but Chiasson is going to get a contract from someone I expect. Went 10-10 with Russell and 7-9 with Malone. Corsi for 5-on-5: 46.43 percent.
  2. R Pontus Aberg. 1-0-1, E 17:49. Two shots, one giveaway and one takeaway, 3:57 on the power play. He scored in garbage time (it was a nice goal) but needed to be more involved. The fact he was even in this game is a tell in terms of his possible landing spot at the end of camp. I like him more than the Oilers do. Went 14-10 with Gambardella, 12-10 with Currie. Corsi for 5-on-5: 54.55 percent.
  3. R Kailer Yamamoto. 2-1-3, +1 17:39. Three shots, seven shot attempts. One hit, one takeaway, one giveaway.He was exactly as we remember him from a year ago, dangerous with the puck on his stick and opportunistic. Great stealth back checker, he’s a turnover machine. It takes zero imagination to know why the Oilers like him. Impressive player. Went 8-13 with McLeod, 8-12 with Benson. If I had a vote, he would have been player of the game.  Corsi for 5-on-5: 36.36 percent.
  4. R Cameron Hebig. 0-0-0, E 9:46. One giveaway, one takeaway, one blocked shot. I can’t say much about him, 4-5 with Vesel and Polei, both of whom were more noticeable. Corsi for 5-on-5: 42.86 percent.

POSSIBLE LINEUP TONIGHT (WILL CHANGE)

  • Jujhar Khaira—Ryan Strome—Jesse Puljujarvi
  • Drake Caggiula—Kyle Brodziak—Zack Kassian
  • Ostap Safin—Cooper Marody—Ty Rattie
  • Tyler Benson—Ryan McLeod—Kailer Yamamoto
  • Jason Garrison—Matt Benning
  • Caleb Jones—Kris Russell
  • Keegan Lowe—Jakob Jerabek
  • Cam Talbot (Al Montoya)

THE NURSE SIGNING

I wrote about Nurse signing yesterday at The Athletic, so won’t go too much into his addition here. It’s clearly a big damned deal and sets the roster up in a substantial way. Edmonton is allowed to carry an extra player (goalie), so a good guess for the 24-man roster is this:

  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins—Connor McDavid—Ty Rattie
  • Milan Lucic—Leon Draisaitl—Tobias Rieder
  • Jujhar Khaira—Ryan Strome—Jesse Puljujarvi
  • Drake Caggiula—Kyle Brodziak—Zack Kassian
  • Scottie Upshall
  • Oscar Klefbom—Adam Larsson
  • Darnell Nurse—Matt Benning
  • Jakub Jerabek—Kris Russell
  • Kevin Gravel—Evan Bouchard
  • Cam Talbot (Mikko Koskinen) (Al Montoya)
  • Andrej Sekera (LTIR)

PROJECTED CAP NUMBER FOR OPENING NIGHT

Edmonton can make it under the wire, I do think we might see Scottie Upshall and Evan Bouchard on this roster (with Pontus Aberg and Kevin Gravel on the outside) but the money works either way.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, The Athletic. The Nurse signing, the impressive showing by Edmonton’s most recent draft picks, and Mikko Koskinen.
  • Marc Dumont, The Athletic. Exciting start to the preseason for Montreal last night, top draft pick Jesperi Kotkaniemi scored a terrific goal. In what is likely to be a long season for the Habs, how invested are fans in this rebuild?
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. NHL preseason underway, Scott’s projections for player scoring, CFL weekend to come.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

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  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Really disappointing debut by Koskinen last night but, again, it was his first start in North America in many years so I’ll give him a pass and will not freak out like many. He didn’t look comfortable at any point and was sliding around on his knees all game.

    Other than Koskinen, the higher end guys were the best players.

    McLeod and Yamamoto were the two best Oiler forwards with Benson doing what he’s done all camp – smart plays and great passes. McLeod made a couple unreal passes including a 100 foot stretch pass from behind our net to spring Yamamoto for a breakaway goal. Here is hoping he has a break out season in junior. John Shannon said yesterday he thinks he can be better than his brother.

    Joe G. had some nice shifts.

    Bouchard is very very good offensively – moves the puck so quick and really likes to join the rush. He makes mistakes defensively and hasn’t learned to use his size but in due time.

    Bear was OK – hammered the shot on his goal.

    Really liked Gravel – skated well and made effective plays.

    Lagesson was noticeably unnoticeable which is perfect for his game – solid d-man that can skate and move the puck.

  3. Mikeoes says:

    Im a bit worried about Koskinen but like many , I will hope its a one off. Tom Gazzolla is not to hopeful that the big goalie will work out though based on his twitter comments and seems to have known all along he wasn’t the guy. Lets hope he was just super nervous even though he seems mega calm in his interviews.

  4. Lowetide says:

    Mikeoes:
    Im abit worried about Koskinen but like many , I will hope its a one off. Tom Gazzolla is not to hopeful that the big goalie will work out though based on his twitter comments and seems to have known all along he wasn’t the guy.Lets hope he was just super nervous even though he seems mega calm in his interviews.

    I didn’t see him catch one damned thing and the puck was never secure.

  5. Woogie63 says:

    In 2005 dynamic prospects Ryan Getzfal and Corey Perry were sent to the farm to work on being a pro. They played 17 and 19 games that season in Portland, when they were recalled they never looked back.

    In 2018 dynamic prospects Kailer Yamamoto and Tyler Benson….

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    Last write up was on Cameron Hebig and I have found him a bit underwhelming in all the games he’s played. Don’t get me wrong, I like the player and have always thought he was a distant bell for the NHL and have taken his scoring this past year with a huge grain of salt (he was one of the oldest players in the WHL). At the same time, I thought he’d show better at this level and was expecting him to have some success in Bakersfield this year. Miles to go.

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    Does the extra player the Oilers are allowed to carry have to be a goalie?

    Will the extra player technically be on the roster? That would effect the cap situation in a negative way.

  8. Jethro Tull says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Nice write up OP, but i thought none of this matters and is meaningless? Wouldn’t it follow that how the players performed would also be as meaningless?

  9. Jethro Tull says:

    Bouchard impressed me last night with his mixing up of fake shots, slap passes and actual shots. I’ve said before that the Oiler’s PP was too predictable – the other team knew there was no cannon from the point, that the Oilers will likely try to walk it into the net. That mean the top two Pker’s only have to half heartedly rush the blueliner walking the line, knowing the puck’s going to Connor on the half boards or down low behind the net.

    At least the respect for the shot, then actually not knowing what Bouch is going to do, to coin a hockey cliche, keeps the PKers honest.

  10. Wonder Llama says:

    LT: “…seems the die is cast for Scottie Upshall to make the team, but Chiasson is going to get a contract from someone I expect.”

    Why is that, do you suppose? They have similar boxcars over the llast few seasons, but Chiasson has it over Upshall with regards to age, size, and the recent experience of a Stanley Cup run with the Caps.

  11. Westchester Oil says:

    Lots of positive arrows from a number of players last night, but none are ‘Certain Oilers’ and only one (Yamamoto) with a decent shot to be a regular in 2018-19. Unfortunately, me thinks (in the short-term) these positive arrows are offset by one big down arrow from the man who was pencilled into be our back-up goaltender. Extremely small sample size though.

  12. tileguy says:

    Hope the Canucks ice a nhl team, or it will be a real blowout tonight.

  13. Westchester Oil says:

    Watching and reading the reviews on Ryan McLeod makes me think that our second round drafting has come an awful long ways from the Moroz days.

  14. Pescador says:

    Lowetide: I didn’t see him catch one damned thing and the puck was never secure.

    Their not allowed to score off of rebounds in Russia,
    communism is to blame.
    And we were hoping to relax during non-Talbot starts,
    hahahahahahahah
    Oilers “pro” scouting strikes again

  15. jtblack says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    “(he was one of the oldest players in the WHL). ”

    This is exactly the type of player a fan base should never get their hopes up about .. There is a laundry list of high scoring 20 / 21 year olds in junior, who were minimal scorers at 17 / 18. There careers go on to die in the ECHL, AHL or Europe.

    When scouting a player, Age matters greatly when we are discussing that player making the best hockey league in the world.

    Whether it is making an impact in junior at 17 / 18 or being a solid AHL player at age 20 / 21 …

    There are rare exceptions as always, but Hebig will be the rule.

  16. Brantford Boy says:

    Koskinen Current Concerns Tally:

    Concerned: 4
    Not Concerned: OP

  17. Clarkenstein says:

    It didn’t…tic…bother me that…tic… the first…tic… shot went in….tic…. at the…tic…23 second…tic…mark…tic…tic…tic….

  18. Darth Tu says:

    I’m not going to freak about Koskinen just yet, but he’s definitely on the watchlist now. If he does bomb, Montoya needs to get his feet under him in a hurry!

    Defensively I was impressed with Gravel, and Bear seems to be making progress defensively. When Bear and Bouchard were paired together on the PP they seemed to have a pretty good chemistry going from the off. I agree on Day, he’s been great. I hope he makes it to Bakersfield and isn’t grabbed by another team.

    Forwards; Yamamoto looked twice the player he was during the junior camp. Benson continues to impress me with his passing, boy I hope he has a good (and injury free) year in the AHL. Aberg seemed to get better in the 3rd, but he was practically unnoticeable for the first two periods, I have high hopes for him, but he needs to really light up the rest of camp if he’s going to stick with the big club.

    This is game one though, and it wasn’t against a good Calgary side. Let’s see what camp brings over the next few weeks.

  19. Bos8 says:

    As in the truism of “Ya can’t fix stupid”, both Benson and McLeod, ya can’t teach creativity. Loved their thinking on plays.

    Then there is Bouchard, never a set sequence. Very impressive.

    The D will come, he’ll adapt to the challenges.

  20. Darth Tu says:

    Brantford Boy,

    Count me as a not concerned (but with an asterisk), I’m giving him one more early goal conceded before my alarm bells start ringing…

  21. leadfarmer says:

    Goalies are creatures of habit.
    First game in a new continent after a long offseason.
    Next to meaningless

  22. LadiesloveSmid says:

    I’m looking forward to how Yamamoto, Bouchard, Benson, and maybe McLeod/Bear/Jones fill out the roster in 2019/20. Just not optimistic about the upcoming season at all.

  23. flea says:

    I mentioned this on the signing of Koskinen, and I still think it might happen. If Koskinen doesn’t make this team, he heads back to Russia. I have no idea about the contract ramifications, other than Koskinen has already gotten $500k for a signing bonus.

    I hope he rebounds though, early days. In the interviews with Montoya/Koskinen, I felt like Montoya was much more positive and seemed more confident. Also – Koskinen’s comment about KHL training camps,- being on the ice from 6 am to 8 PM?! Crazy! Made me think about Yakupov and the culture differences between Russia and North America. Maybe too much freedom here for a young player. In Russia they seem to treat them like soldiers.

    Advantage Montoya so far.

  24. Oil2Oilers says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    So Woodguy wants Koskinen to play 25 games this season! 😉

    Despite my smart ass conclusion great article. I wonder if a an NHL coach would rest his starter if they were up 3-1 or 3-0 in a series. They would risk ‘team’ rest days but goaltending might be more important to winning the next round.

  25. Oil2Oilers says:

    tileguy:
    Hope the Canucks ice a nhl team, or it will be a real blowout tonight.

    Do the Canucks have a real NHL team to ice right now?

  26. Younger Oil says:

    tileguy:
    Hope the Canucks ice a nhl team, or it will be a real blowout tonight.

    If they don’t, Woodguy can easily bet the farm on the Oil!

  27. dustrock says:

    2nd round picks Benson and McLeod looked outstanding next to much older, more experienced but lesser skilled players.

    And once again, we should always draft for skill. It seems that maybe the Oilers are finally learning that lesson.

  28. Rock11 says:

    I have a feeling Benson is going to be one of those guys who produces at similar rates wherever he goes. Some guys you see dominate a lower level and then fall off as the competition rises. Others you see be a solid top 6 guy in junior and you don’t think much about him. Then that player moves to the AHL and is a solid top 6 guy but doesn’t scream high end prospect. Then before you know it the guy is a solid top 6 guy in the NHL. Benson just reminds me of that kind of guy.

  29. --hudson-- says:

    Another option for goalie is going to be from Toronto. Two of Sparks (guy who shutout the Oilers in his first NHL game), Pickard or McElhinney are going to be on waivers. If the Oilers make an early call they can fix this quickly.

    It’s only one game so not good to jump to conclusions. If the NHL gear is smaller than KHL rules allow that could explain the leakiness.

    Whatever the explanation, the Oilers have to be aggressive. We not only need a backup this year but a contingency starter for next season if Talbot walks.

  30. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
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    New Because Oilers:

    “Todd McLellan has played Talbot much more than the goalies who make it to the Stanley Cup & Conference Finals”

    http://becauseoilers.blogspot.com/2018/09/todd-mclellan-has-played-talbot-much.html

    *****END SPAM*****

    #MoreIsMore with this coach. He believes in it. A feature, not a bug.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_X7PMN99Y

  31. doritogrande says:

    Posting move for levity than anything else, but Laurent Brossoit had a hell of a game last night against the Minnesota B-stars. Very impressed with his positioning and rebound control.

  32. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    leadfarmer:
    Goalies are creatures of habit.
    First game in a new continent after a long offseason.
    Next to meaningless

    – Not to mention it was an Junior/AHL-all star track meet.

    – If he played great, the consensus would be: “yeah it doesn’t matter, its a meaningless game”

  33. godot10 says:

    Westchester Oil:
    Watching and reading the reviews on Ryan McLeod makes me think that our second round drafting has come an awful long ways from the Moroz days.

    McLeod was light on offense in junior, like the Oilers usual 2nd rounders. (light on offense OR injury history). The difference is that the rest of the toolkit is pretty good. If you flip a coin often enough, it will come up heads some of the time.

  34. godot10 says:

    Brantford Boy:
    Koskinen Current Concerns Tally:

    Concerned: 4
    Not Concerned: OP

    McLellan only plays one goaltender. So it is irrelevant. Talbot will get 75 games again.

  35. leadfarmer says:

    godot10: #MoreIsMore with this coach. He believes in it.A feature, not a bug.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6_X7PMN99Y

    Finals, Finals, Dont talk about Finals,
    We just want to make the playoffs

  36. McNuge93 says:

    godot10: McLellan only plays one goaltender.So it is irrelevant.Talbot will get 75 games again.

    Well the whole idea in bringing Koskinen here was the recognition that 1)Talbot needs to play less games 2) Talbot was not good last year and if he starts that way again we need another option.

    Put me down as concerned. I know its early but I would cut bait if he doesn’t rebound (no pun intended) soon. I asked yesterday but don’t think it was answered. Can Koskinen be lent to a KHL team and Oilers are free of his cap impact?

  37. PennersPancakes says:

    godot10: McLeod was light on offense in junior

    Eh was he really? I know theres going to be a few guys with better numbers but what counts as light? 70 points in 68 games at 40 isn’t that bad. Yes Akil Thomas had 81 as another OHL C but hes significantly smaller and was the only other CHL C I noticed drafted slightly after. Trying to find comparable CHL Cs drafted this year and honestly compared to some first rounders McLeod looks pretty good by his draft numbers.

    Dallas took Dellandrea at 13 while he had 59 points in 67 games and Columbus took Foudy at 18 with 40 points in 65 games. Id say those guys are light on offense especially considering their draft position

  38. The Trade Guy says:

    Mckenzie’s preseason list looks good. WHL looks really strong.

    Looking forward to LT’s draft rankings and hope the Oilers pick late.

  39. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    McNuge93: Well the whole idea in bringing Koskinen here was the recognition that 1)Talbot needs to play less games 2) Talbot was not good last year and if he starts that way again we need another option.

    Put me down as concerned. I know its early but I would cutbait if he doesn’t rebound (no pun intended) soon. I asked yesterday but don’t think it was answered. Can Koskinen be lent to a KHL team and Oilers are free of his cap impact?

    – I think the commonality with our failed back-up goalies is a combination of the following:
    1) not given much rope
    2) not given many starts
    3) starts mostly 2nd of B2B’s, or 3 of 4 (so team is tired)
    4) feeling that if they have a bad game, they are in trouble

    – Im my mind, the only way a back-up succeeds, would be at the beginning of the season, his starts are mapped out, and the goalie knows he has some rope and confidence, and a strategy.

    – He sucked yesterday. If this at all influences the management’s strategy for Koski, and Koski feels more heat than appropriate, then Koski will not succeed, full-stop

    – Ideally coach has said: “OK, there are 8 games this pre-season, you are playing vs Peg, Vancouver, Calgary., to get eased in. We also give you a period in Cologne, as you will be familiar with it. Your first start is vs. Winnepeg on the road, the Nashville on the road a week later, and your first home game is vs Chicago on Nov. 1st, and you get the 2nd of the B2B vs Tampa, then at home vs Montreal, then vs Vegas on 2nd of B2B. These are your 10 or so starts, so lets get to it, get it figured out, you are our guy, and we are going to put you in a posistion to suceed.

    – If management looks at this first pre-season and reacts like this blog does, then we won’t have back-up goalie. Have a plan and don’t deviate from it untill he plays a half-dozen regulre games (and hopefully he gets those in by mid-Nov as I’ve outlined

  40. Andy Dufresne says:

    Would have prefered the Oilers sign Halak, who signed with your Bruins for about the same money only on a two year term.

    I guess the good news is that we can free up $975k by sending Koskinen to the AHL if neccessary.

    AND once the season starts, we could use some Sekera LTIR if we go over the cap in hiring a new backup. Right?

    Given the stiuation and the tough schedule to start the season, we really cant afford for Koskinen to be learning “on the fly”.

    Not to panic, but whose out there that could be brought in at the last minute???

    Sparks $670k
    McElhinney $850k
    Pickard $800k

    Kari Lehtonen, Ondrej Pavelec, or Steve Mason?

  41. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909’s 2018-19 Death March™ is Back!!

    Here’s how you enter:

    Predict the final points total of the Oilers 2018-19 season.
    T
    ie break: how many goals does Yakupov score in the KHL?

    That’s it!

    Contest open until puck drop in Europe. Or else Boston.

  42. PennersPancakes says:

    hunter1909,

    Hey Hunter

    Going 97 points for Oilers and 12 goals for Yakupov

  43. texmex says:

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    Projected #Oilers forwards tonight in Vancouver are Khaira-Strome-Puljujarvi, Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian, Safin-Marody-Rattie, Benson-McLeod-Yamamoto with Vesey as the 13th.

  44. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Younger Oil: If they don’t, Woodguy can easily bet the farm on the Oil!

    Man.

    I’m nevereverevereverevereverevereverer betting on preseason hockey ever again.

  45. Westchester Oil says:

    godot10: McLeod was light on offense in junior, like the Oilers usual 2nd rounders. (light on offense OR injury history).The difference is that the rest of the toolkit is pretty good.If you flip a coin often enough, it will come up heads some of the time.

    McLeod was picked #40 and had over a point per game in junior. Mitch Moroz was picked #32 and had less than 0.4 pts/game. He then went on to post less than 0.25 in the AHL and was last seen in the ECHL. But he did have some ‘sandpaper’ as Pat Quinn used to say.

    Point is, this is one area where progress has been made.

  46. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hopefully the Canucks have some decent NHLers in the lineup as I’m looking forward to seeing how the Benson/McLeod/Yamamoto line does against some better comp.

    Its also interesting that Rattie is being run on a non-NHL line as McLellan has been looking to run his projected lines.

    Go Jesse!

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice to see Safin get a game in and I’m curious how he looks with Marody and Rattie.

    Its interesting that he gets an exhibition game while Maksimov (and Samorukov) was already re-assigned to junior.

    I wonder if its because he didn’t get in to any rookie games with his injury or perhaps its a sign that they might send him to the AHL as opposed to back to St. John?

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jethro Tull:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Nice write up OP, but i thought none of this matters and is meaningless?Wouldn’t it follow that how the players performed would also be as meaningless?

    Well, yes, the early preseason games are somewhat meaningless as far as evaluating readiness for the NHL this year. I assume you don’t think that Ryan McLeod’s performance means he really has a chance at breaking camp with the NHL team, do you?

    Its really nice to see Bouchard be able to move the puck so well in rookie camp and the game last night but I think its going to be more meaningful to see if he can do that against actual NHL players.

    History is littered with good to great prospects showing great in early preseason games and then not being able to follow that up. It happens each and every year and almost with every team.

    I have little doubt the Yamamoto will continue to produce in his next few games but that is a long ways from doing it in the NHL, as we say last year.

    We will know more in a week.

    At the same time, I’m watching these games as I’m an Oilers fan and they do provide some information with respect to how these players play and how their development is coming along.

  49. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne:

    I guess the good news is that we can free up $975kby sending Koskinen to the AHL if neccessary.

    Sending Koskinen to the AHL would be a net zero on the cap as his buried cap hit would be replaced by the portion of Montoya’s cap hit that would otherwise be buried.

  50. LadiesloveSmid says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/1042095372800098304

    There’s the lineup not organized into lines

    One fan’s guess up front:

    Baertschi – Horvat – Goldobin
    Dahlen – Pettersson – Eriksson
    Leipsic – Gagner – Virtanen
    Schaller – Granlund – Motte

    I’d guess on D:

    MDZ-Tanev
    Hutton-Stecher
    Sautner-Biega

    Nilsson in net.

    Who’s really missing outside of Boeser/Edler/Sutter? I guess big name UFAs Beagle & Roussel

  51. OriginalPouzar says:

    Decent forward group for the Canucks – I’m curious to see Petterson and Dahlen – I really really want them both to fail as NHLers – don’t see it happening though.

    Vancouver Canucks
    @Canucks
    Pettersson, Dahlen, Horvat, Baertschi, Goldobin, Gagner, Eriksson, Hutton, Stecher, Granlund, Leipsic, Biega, Del Zotto, Tanev, Motte, Sautner, Virtanen, Schaller, Nilsson & DiPietro on the ice this morning. They’re in tonight.

  52. OriginalPouzar says:

    I think Roussel is nursing an off-season concussion.

  53. OriginalPouzar says:

    Talbot will play the first 2 periods tonight and Montoya the third.

  54. Jordan says:

    Wonder Llama:
    LT: “…seems the die is cast for Scottie Upshall to make the team, but Chiasson is going to get a contract from someone I expect.”

    Why is that, do you suppose? They have similar boxcars over the llast few seasons, but Chiasson has it over Upshall with regards to age, size, and the recent experience of a Stanley Cup run with the Caps.

    There was discussion about this on the radio yesterday on Gregor’s show – Connor and Scotty have a relationship from BioSteel camp for the last 3 summers. Scotty also has a lot of previous exp and success playing with Kyle Brodziak. Lots of connections and chemistry.

    Two Different explanations on Oilers Goaltending decisions:
    Number 1:
    I’m very encouraged by Management’s decision in net. I mean think about it – the only way the Oilers can win now is if they can outscore the opposition, and they know they’ll give up 3-4 goals a game.

    “Connor, we think you can be a great player. So, we’re going to help you acheive your potential, by making sure the ONLY way you win is if you’re team is scoring 5+ goals a game. We believe in you!”

    Number 2:
    It’s a good thing we went out and bet the farm on the Goalie who hasn’t played in the NHL in half a decade. The last thing this team needs is a question mark in goal. #becauseoilers

  55. treevojo says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Man.

    I’m nevereverevereverevereverevereverer betting on preseason hockey ever again.

    You and me both.

    I still remember that game with a strong oilers lineup against a brutal Vancouver lineup a few years ago that should have been guaranteed money.

    Never again.

  56. JimmyV1965 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – I think the commonality with our failed back-up goalies is a combination of the following:
    1)not given much rope
    2)not given many starts
    3) starts mostly 2nd of B2B’s, or 3 of 4 (so team is tired)
    4)feeling that if they have a bad game, they are in trouble

    – Im my mind, the only way a back-up succeeds, would be at the beginning of the season, his starts are mapped out, and the goalie knows he has some rope and confidence, and a strategy.

    – He sucked yesterday.If this at all influences the management’s strategy for Koski, and Koski feels more heat than appropriate, then Koski will not succeed, full-stop

    – Ideally coach has said: “OK, there are 8 games this pre-season, you are playing vs Peg, Vancouver, Calgary., to get eased in. We also give you a period in Cologne, as you will be familiar with it.Your first start is vs. Winnepeg on the road, the Nashville on the road a week later, and your first home game is vs Chicago on Nov. 1st, and you get the 2nd of the B2B vs Tampa, then at home vs Montreal, then vs Vegas on 2nd of B2B.These are your 10 or so starts, so lets get to it, get it figured out, you are our guy, and we are going to put you in a posistion to suceed.

    – If management looks at this first pre-season and reacts like this blog does, then we won’t have back-up goalie.Have a plan and don’t deviate from it untill he plays a half-dozen regulre games (and hopefully he gets those in by mid-Nov as I’ve outlined

    Excellent post

  57. Jethro Tull says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – I think the commonality with our failed back-up goalies is a combination of the following:
    1) They haven’t been very good
    2) They haven’t been very good

    FIFY

  58. Jethro Tull says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – He sucked yesterday. If this at all influences the management’s strategy for Koski, and Koski feels more heat than appropriate, then Koski will not succeed, full-stop

    He sucked against 1 NHLer, couple of hot prospects, several ‘tweeners and some distant bells. Heat is exactly what he should be feeling. From himself.

    How he responds to the heat is what will define his NHL time.

  59. deardylan says:

    I was reviewing the banter from the preseason about a year ago when Dr.Drai was signed and found it fun to read the comments and compare them to Nurse recent signing.

    https://lowetide.ca/2017/08/20/lightning-in-a-bottle/

    Notice OP still as active as ever (he even talks about Nurse future contract):
    “I can see Nurse and Benning coming in under $7M – I’m a huge Darnell Nurse fan but I don’t see him putting up significant boxcars this year which could keep his cap hit to apx $2M ($2.25 X3)”

    …and rereading from a year ago I do find myself missing the blogger, NYC-BACK-TO-TOKYO OIL (GENTLEMAN BACKPACKER).

    Is he still out there somewhere? Any recent sightings?!

  60. digger50 says:

    jtblack:
    OriginalPouzar</

    “There careers go on to die in the ECHL, AHL or Europe”

    Hey JT, I know your point was about how age matters when assessing prospects but I just pulled out this sentence for comment so not directing this at you.

    Just so many fans are NHL only fans and I feel do not appreciate all the hockey talent that goes “to die” in the various league. If you have ever been on the ice with an ECHL player he was likely skating circles around everyone.

    It’s dam hard to get into Junior A , and even harder to turn into a pro somewhere. If a kid can do it and earn a modest 100,000/yr income I would consider that a huge success at 20 years old. A 5-7 year career in Europe at 250,000/yr can really set you up financially. (Or get you into trouble)

  61. Richard S.S. says:

    Most people 6’7″ have adjustment issues/problems their first game or two back for an Offseason. Matters not how good they are, this still applies. The rest of Koskinen’s issues/problems can be credited to nerves/worries at finally getting a chance after how many years? I would have been shocked/surprised if he didn’t have a wonky/sub-standard game.

  62. OriginalPouzar says:

    Interesting that Russell and Jarabek are on seperate parings as many (including me) think that may be the third pairing.

  63. pts2pndr says:

    Pescador: Their not allowed to score off of rebounds in Russia,
    communism is to blame.
    And we were hoping to relax during non-Talbot starts,
    hahahahahahahah
    Oilers “pro” scouting strikes again

    Early days, I am willing to give him some time to adjust. The pro scouting is actually in my opinion much improved over pre Chiarelli!

  64. digger50 says:

    If Koskinen doesn’t perform next game there will be tits flying left and right.

    And perhaps that’s fair. Does pre-season matter? Yes and no. Some players are fighting for a longer look while Most veterans are playing to warm up and not to get hurt. A pre-season injury for a vet is a huge dam deal. If he is a middle player he may find his spot taken and not recover it. Or come back from injury to early and show poor results. This could cost him millions. Literally. So you don’t t see too many vets putting it all on the line. Guys like Yamamoto have been through it once, he has learned how to ramp it up properly, he watched the vets last year.

    Looking at LT summary two days ago, there seemed to be a lot of foreshadowing taking place in pre-season. A lot of issues showed early. Lots of comments about Talbot, or Lucic errant passes, or poor power play. On the other hand, just as many comments that turned out to be nothing. Hmmm

  65. pts2pndr says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Man.

    I’m nevereverevereverevereverevereverer betting on preseason hockey ever again.

    Awe thats no fun!😉

  66. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Jethro Tull: He sucked against 1 NHLer, couple of hot prospects, several ‘tweeners and some distant bells.Heat is exactly what he should be feeling.From himself.

    How he responds to the heat is what will define his NHL time.

    – As per my other post: how the organization responds will define his NHL time

    – Do they have a strategy? Are they giving him confidence? Does the goalie have a plan he’s bought into? What are his expectations on playing time. Does he feel that if he lets in 4 goals next time, he’s done? Did they focus on his good saves, or his bad ones? Is he doing all the right things in practice? Do the goalie coaches see him doing the right stuff

    – Make a plan, follow it: don’t rely on small sample size, in a meaningless pre-season game with no structure that was a shoot-out with breakaways, broken coverage and many months hiatus.

    – Look for improvement, monitor, and put him in a position to succeed. So much nervous nellies…

  67. blainer says:

    I know a few here are saying it’s only one game with Koskinen but I watched a lot of his Highlights and mentioned it over the summer that he looked just like Gus…

    His play did not inspire confidence.. and if I feel this way I can only imagine how the coach will feel.

    Man Chia has no clue when it comes to Goalering especially when his job could be on the line.

    I guess it’s hope for the best.. Frustrating to say the least as its the most important position on the team..

  68. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: Sending Koskinen to the AHL would be a net zero on the cap as his buried cap hit would be replaced by the portion of Montoya’s cap hit that would otherwise be buried.

    Agreed. I was working off of the premise that the Oilers had already deemed Montoya as “AHL” when they signed another goalie to a $2.5m contract.

    So I’m talking about burying Koskinen and Montoya in the AHL and getting someone else. Which I realize is HIGHLY unlikely.

  69. Oilin4 says:

    Hunter:

    94 points and 12 for Yak.

    Style points: Oil just miss the playoffs, win the lottery, and thus end the draft lottery forever.

  70. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    treevojo: You and me both.

    I still remember that game with a strong oilers lineup against a brutal Vancouver lineup a few years ago that should have been guaranteed money.

    Never again.

    I put the mortgage on that game.

    Last time I ever bet on a preseason game.

    Bleh.

  71. digger50 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – As per my other post: how the organization responds will define his NHL time

    – Do they have a strategy?Are they giving him confidence?Does the goalie have a plan he’s bought into?What are his expectations on playing time.Does he feel that if he lets in 4 goals next time, he’s done?Did they focus on his good saves, or his bad ones? Is he doing all the right things in practice? Do the goalie coaches see him doing the right stuff

    – Make a plan, follow it: don’t rely on small sample size, in a meaningless pre-season game with no structurethat was a shoot-out with breakaways, broken coverage and many months hiatus.

    – Look for improvement, monitor, and put him in a position to succeed.So much nervous nellies…

    I find your posts very reasonable. Sure they should have a welcoming committee and a coaching plan – including support. True.

    And yet – this is supposed to be an NHL caliber talent. Regardless of everything else: the team in front of him, breakaways, nervous etc….. you might just as well have expected him to stand on his head and be lights out good. He has a lot to prove here. I would have predicted a better chance that he really came on focused.

    This is not a prospect. This is the big bet on the summer. It is reason to be nervous.

    We have to be in the “it’s a meaningless game” camp as we have no choice. But that was bad, bad goaltending. If this continues the resulting fallout is going to end up pure comedy.

  72. Richard S.S. says:

    Montoya said something about a concussion last year that affected his play. He said nothing at the time. He said nothing about it until much later in the Offseason – well after Koskinen was signed. Does it matter?

  73. Hazwasted says:

    hunter1909,

    Thanks for doing this again Hunter

    Oilers 96 points
    Yak lucky 13 goals

    Cheers!

  74. Richard S.S. says:

    A Team will unbelievably win super butt ugly games that they were never, ever in.
    A Team will unbelievably lose absolute gems of a game where they were absolutely dominating.
    That stuff no one has control over.

    When the goalie is playing very well, most Teams will win most games.
    When the Offense is scoring very well, most Teams will win most games.
    That stuff that’s easily controllable.

    When it’s none of the above, more things need to work right, like almost everything. Good Teams win most games. This is where Playoff berths exist.

  75. Pescador says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – As per my other post: how the organization responds will define his NHL time

    – Do they have a strategy?Are they giving him confidence?Does the goalie have a plan he’s bought into?What are his expectations on playing time.Does he feel that if he lets in 4 goals next time, he’s done?Did they focus on his good saves, or his bad ones? Is he doing all the right things in practice? Do the goalie coaches see him doing the right stuff

    – Make a plan, follow it: don’t rely on small sample size, in a meaningless pre-season game with no structurethat was a shoot-out with breakaways, broken coverage and many months hiatus.

    – Look for improvement, monitor, and put him in a position to succeed.So much nervous nellies…

    There should only be one strategy
    Stop the puck,
    That being said you are correct coaches and fans should give him some rope,
    Which he will get when he stops the puck.

  76. OriginalPouzar says:

    Coach did mention today the potential to carry 8 d-men. I do think that will be the case if Bouchard breaks camp with the team.

  77. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    digger50:
    This is not a prospect. This is the big bet on the summer. It is reason to be nervous.

    We have to be in the “it’s a meaningless game” camp as we have no choice. But that was bad, bad goaltending. If this continues the resulting fallout is going to end up pure comedy.

    – I guess its a reason to be nervous? But if he posted a shut-out, I’d have the same take: it would’t make me more or less confident, because it is fake hockey

    – I have no idea unlike many here who have formed their opinion on whether Koski will be a good back-up, who can post a .910 and win half the 25 games he should start.

    – Sure if he lets in 4 goals every 2 periods the next 3 times this pre-season I might feel a little more nervous, but the pre-season doesn’t matter. How a player performs in the pre-season has no bearing on how they do in the season. This is all I know.

    – I hope they have a plan, and they won’t deviate from it, and after a half-dozen starts in the first 20 games into the regular season they will have a better idea of who he is.

    – But I know for certain that if he doesn’t get adequate time this training camp, and his playing time in pre-season is influenced by goals allowed, and if he plays once a month in October and November, he will not be a good back-up.

    – We will know based on the amount of games he plays in the first month IMO

    – Team has a lot riding on the goalies working this year

  78. Ryan says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Coach did mention today the potential to carry 8 d-men.I do think that will be the case if Bouchard breaks camp with the team.

    How is he going to fit when they trade for Faulk?

    Klefbomb – Larsson
    Nurse – Faulk
    Russell – Benning
    Gravel – Jerabek

  79. Ryan says:

    Ryan: How is he going to fit when they trade for Faulk?

    Klefbomb – Larsson
    Nurse – Faulk
    Russell – Benning
    Gravel – Jerabek

    Don’t worry OP.

    Now they’ll have to use the trade pieces that were intended to acquire Faulk for a backup goalie.

  80. Doug McLachlan says:

    –hudson–:
    Another option for goalie is going to be from Toronto.Two of Sparks (guy who shutout the Oilers in his first NHL game), Pickard or McElhinney are going to be on waivers.If the Oilers make an early call they can fix this quickly.

    It’s only one game so not good to jump to conclusions.If the NHL gear is smaller than KHL rules allow that could explain the leakiness.

    Whatever the explanation, the Oilers have to be aggressive.We not only need a backup this year but a contingency starter for next season if Talbot walks.

    Toronto has Pickard (.918 sv% with the Marlies last year), McElhinney (.934 sv% last year) and Sparks (.936 sv% with the Marlies last year). One will back-up Freddie Anderson and then two of these would need to clear waivers. All are under $950K hits.

    Assuming Schneider is healthy, New Jersey will waive Eddie Lack and his $650K contract though I doubt that is a solution.

    Beyond that, pickings get awfully slim.

  81. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Ryan: How is he going to fit when they trade for Faulk?

    Klefbomb – Larsson
    Nurse – Faulk
    Russell – Benning
    Gravel – Jerabek

    I picture one of Benning/Bear would go the other way. Then Russell may return to the left side.

    Then when Bouch is ready I think Faulk would be a goner

  82. OriginalPouzar says:

    I read alot about the chemistry between Brodziak and Upshall and I’m not entirely sure that its true – at least 5 on 5 last year – they both had a higher CF%, FF% and GF% without each other than when together.

  83. Jethro Tull says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I read alot about the chemistry between Brodziak and Upshall and I’m not entirely sure that its true – at least 5 on 5 last year – they both had a higher CF%, FF% and GF% without each other than when together.

    It’s still chemistry when shit blows up.

  84. flea says:

    Doug McLachlan,

    Maybe the Oilers can trade a waived and cleared Montoya for one of the TO goalies. (Not sure if this is allowed)

  85. OriginalPouzar says:

    Richard S.S.:
    Montoya said something about a concussion last year that affected his play.He said nothing at the time.He said nothing about it until much later in the Offseason – well after Koskinen was signed.Does it matter?

    There was no secrecy about his concussion – it was well reported that he had been suffering and missed time with a concussion last year.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ryan: How is he going to fit when they trade for Faulk?

    Klefbomb – Larsson
    Nurse – Faulk
    Russell – Benning
    Gravel – Jerabek

    Aghhhhhghghghgh – you jokester.

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    Two bad periods of hockey in the first preseason game and Oilers Nation is scouring the country for back-up goalie options. Incredible.

    Lets not forget about Alan Montoya – in my opinion a fine back-up goalie and I would have been fine with him and using the extra $1.5M that the Koskinen signing committed to the position elsewhere.

    Anyways – go Koskinen – looking forward to your next appearance!

  88. OriginalPouzar says:

    Promises, promises:

    As per Gregor: “Ryan Strome told me last week that McLellan had told the team he is planning on not shuffling the lines as much this season. “Of course, we need to play well for that to happen, but I think we will look for more continuity among the lines early on,” said Strome

  89. RonnieB says:

    For now, i am in the wait and see camp on Koskinen. One preseason game does not a career make.

    Another thought has crossed my mind. Chiareli has led us to believe that he won a pitched battle against 9 other NHL teams for Koskinen. If he is being truthful,this suggests that there could be as many as 9 potential trade options for cap relief if the Oilers decide he is not the answer here. Remember that he was able to trade Nilsson in 2016 after he failed here.

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jethro Tull:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Nice write up OP, but i thought none of this matters and is meaningless?Wouldn’t it follow that how the players performed would also be as meaningless?

    As per my response to the above and the below, seems like Gregor and I have a similar opinion on this (not all that common an occurance):

    Gregor:
    1. Preseason is great for debate. It is awesome for sports talk radio and for blogs, yet it is still difficult to assess how much it means. Kailer Yamamoto had two goals and an assist last night. He showed great finish on both his goals. The challenge for the coaching staff is to accurately evaluate what it means. I believe it shows he will be fine in the AHL. Of course he won’t produce three points a game, but he should be a very productive player. I’m not sure how much it means towards making the Edmonton Oilers, because the opposition wasn’t NHL caliber. I won’t be surprised to see Yamamoto play five or six preseason games. They want to see how he does against NHL players. All he can do is play well and get the coaches attention. He should be able to produce against a Stockton Heat lineup, and he did. That is a huge positive for him, because you know his confidence will be higher entering his next game.

  91. Woogie63 says:

    I really like Bouchard, but he has lots to work on to play in the NHL.

    1. He does not get to dumped in pucks fast enough. When the NHLer arrive and forechecking is real, he is going to have display much more urgency.

    2. He glides too much, he has to lower his butt and get more power into his first stride.

    3. He is getting lost behind his net and has lost his box out positioning, when the big boys show up this flaw is going to be glaring.

    4. Going North looks really good.

  92. Lowetide says:

    Oilers sending down 15

  93. Lowetide says:

    Mitch Callahan (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Braden Christoffer (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Marc-Olivier Crevier-Morin (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Logan Day (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Luke Esposito (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Dave Gust (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Cameron Hebig (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Jake Kulevich (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Colin Larkin (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    John McFarland (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Evan Polei (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Stuart Skinner (G) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Ryan Van Stralen (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Tyler Vesel (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Jared Wilson (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-trim-training-camp-roster/c-300222210

  94. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa, as per Reid Wilkins, the Oilers have assigned 15 players to Bakersfield, including Stuart Skinner.

    I’m surprised Skinner didn’t get at least part of an exhibition game.

  95. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mitch Callahan (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Braden Christoffer (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Marc-Olivier Crevier-Morin (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Logan Day (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Luke Esposito (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Dave Gust (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    ——————-

    Interesting that Wells sticks for now but Skinner is assigned.

    Cameron Hebig (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Jake Kulevich (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Colin Larkin (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    John McFarland (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Evan Polei (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Stuart Skinner (G) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Ryan Van Stralen (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Tyler Vesel (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Jared Wilson (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

  96. dessert1111 says:

    5 NHL contracts sent down, those guys I guess are the ones that have to be least happy with their camps.

    I think all the AHL contracts are gone now too and only junior aged players are Bouchard, McLeod, and Safin.

  97. dessert1111 says:

    Further to my last comment, Callahan, Skinner and Larkin didn’t get any games, whereas Hebig and Vesel just got the one last night.

    I’m guessing more cuts after tonight’s game.

  98. McNuge93 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Two bad periods of hockey in the first preseason game and Oilers Nation is scouring the country for back-up goalie options.Incredible.

    Lets not forget about Alan Montoya – in my opinion a fine back-up goalie and I would have been fine with him and using the extra $1.5M that the Koskinen signing committed to the position elsewhere.

    Anyways – go Koskinen – looking forward to your next appearance!

    You’re right OP. But you cant blame everyone for being pro-active just in case….It’s not like we haven’t seen goalie crises.

  99. --hudson-- says:

    Doug McLachlan: Toronto has Pickard (.918 sv% with the Marlies last year), McElhinney (.934 sv% last year) and Sparks (.936 sv% with the Marlies last year).One will back-up Freddie Anderson and then two of these would need to clear waivers.All are under $950K hits.

    Assuming Schneider is healthy, New Jersey will waive Eddie Lack and his $650K contract though I doubt that is a solution.

    Beyond that, pickings get awfully slim.

    Thanks for grabbing those numbers! I guess we also need to nick those save percentages down a few points since the Marlies were stacked.

    Now if Koskinen recovers as McLellan expects or Montoya is lights out, this is all hot air and I hope that is how it plays out.

    However if we’re getting towards the end of preseason and neither of them look like they’re going to provide support to Talbot, I hope the Oilers take a more proactive approach than seasons of the past. Let Koskinen adapt his game in the minors for a month or so, assuming it is true that he can pass through waivers.

    Every fall there are serviceable backups that are exposed to waivers. Last year it was Malcolm Subban, other years it was Markstrom or Khudobin. I would hate to see another backup goaltender trade for picks – (how many times have we done that in the last few years? Montoya, Scrivens, Fasth, etc.) when we may be able to get a better goalie for free.

  100. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Promises, promises:

    As per Gregor: “Ryan Strome told me last week that McLellan had told the team he is planning on not shuffling the lines as much this season. “Of course, we need to play well for that to happen, but I think we will look for more continuity among the lines early on,” said Strome

    Exactly. McDavid told McLellan. McLellan told the team.

  101. Ryan says:

    –hudson–: Thanks for grabbing those numbers!I guess we also need to nick those save percentages down a few points since the Marlies were stacked.

    Now if Koskinen recovers as McLellan expects or Montoya is lights out, this is all hot air and I hope that is how it plays out.

    However if we’re getting towards the end of preseason and neither of them look like they’re going to provide support to Talbot, I hope the Oilers take a more proactive approach than seasons of the past.Let Koskinen adapt his game in the minors for a month or so, assuming it is true that he can pass through waivers.

    Every fall there are serviceable backups that are exposed to waivers.Last year it was Malcolm Subban, other years it was Markstrom or Khudobin.I would hate to see another backup goaltender trade for picks – (how many times have we done that in the last few years?Montoya, Scrivens, Fasth, etc.) when we may be able to get a better goalie for free.

    What we need now is GeorgeXS to provide us with data for league average starter SV % and backup goalie SV%

    Montoya is on the downward slope given his age of 33, but goalies don’t to fall off the cliff until 35.

    How far off is Montoya from what other teams get from their back up goalies?

  102. leadfarmer says:

    Doug McLachlan: Toronto has Pickard (.918 sv% with the Marlies last year), McElhinney (.934 sv% last year) and Sparks (.936 sv% with the Marlies last year).One will back-up Freddie Anderson and then two of these would need to clear waivers.All are under $950K hits.

    Assuming Schneider is healthy, New Jersey will waive Eddie Lack and his $650K contract though I doubt that is a solution.

    Beyond that, pickings get awfully slim.

    Steve Mason looking for work. Dont know what shape his noggin is in. But he did have 9 months without
    Definitely not a long term solution but probably cheaper than Koskinen

  103. OriginalPouzar says:

    dessert1111:
    5 NHL contracts sent down, those guys I guess are the ones that have to be least happy with their camps.

    I think all the AHL contracts are gone now too and only junior aged players are Bouchard, McLeod, and Safin.

    and Safin is eligible for the AHL.

    I think its very interesting that Safin is still here while Maksimov is gone (and Samorukov). It may be because he didn’t get in to a rookie game (due to injury) but maybe he is being evaluated for potential AHL assignment as opposed to back to the Q.

    If he plays all season in Bakersfield (i.e. not 10 NHL games), his contract would slide.

    Its a rare opportunity if he is ready for pro.

    I will say, his instagram over the summer was full of weird teenage Czech behavior and very little working out of any sort (one video at a gym and it was more of him and his boys goofing around).

  104. pts2pndr says:

    –hudson–:
    Another option for goalie is going to be from Toronto.Two of Sparks (guy who shutout the Oilers in his first NHL game), Pickard or McElhinney are going to be on waivers.If the Oilers make an early call they can fix this quickly.

    It’s only one game so not good to jump to conclusions.If the NHL gear is smaller than KHL rules allow that could explain the leakiness.

    Whatever the explanation, the Oilers have to be aggressive.We not only need a backup this year but a contingency starter for next season if Talbot walks.

    We got Eakins and a mitt full of Marlies about the same time and how did that work for us? All that shines brightly out of Toronto is not gold!

  105. leadfarmer says:

    Ryan: What we need now is GeorgeXS to provide us with data for league average starter SV % and backup goalie SV%

    Montoya is on the downward slope given his age of 33, but goalies don’t to fall off the cliff until 35.

    How far off is Montoya from what other teams get from their back up goalies?

    Thats for the very good goalies. Backup goalies fall off quicker.
    Ryan Miller is the oldest backup at 38 but he was a long time starter so he doesnt count
    Peter Budaj is the oldest real backup at 36
    Curtis Mcelhinney is 35
    Niemi is 35
    Lehtonen is almost 35 but doesnt have a job
    Ward is 34 but is long time starter
    Next is Montoya

  106. OriginalPouzar says:

    I should mention (and I will do so for very game on the west coast, in particular the 830 starts), what an egregious time for the game to start. With that said, as of yesterday, I no longer wake up a 2:30am for the gym but at 3:50 (switched from a bulk to a cu t and want to shorten the day with the material calorie reduction) so its not quite as egregious.

    Pretty excited for tonight – lots of players I’m looking forward to seeing (Jones, the kid line, Marody, Jesse’s line, Talbot, Lagesson, etc.).

  107. Professor Q says:

    Woogie63:
    In 2005 dynamic prospects Ryan Getzfal and Corey Perry were sent to the farm to work on being a pro.They played 17 and 19 games that season in Portland, when they were recalled they never looked back.

    In 2018 dynamic prospects Kailer Yamamoto and Tyler Benson….

    They also had quite a bit of AHL time along with even more CHL time for a few years prior to that, so they were even further developed and experienced by that time.

  108. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I should mention (and I will do so for very game on the west coast, in particular the 830 starts), what an egregious time for the game to start. With that said, as of yesterday, I no longer wake up a 2:30am for the gym but at 3:50 (switched from a bulk to a cu t and want to shorten the day with the material calorie reduction) so its not quite as egregious.

    Pretty excited for tonight – lots of players I’m looking forward to seeing (Jones, the kid line, Marody, Jesse’s line, Talbot, Lagesson, etc.).

    That’s how long it takes for those damn hipsters to bike to the arena on their refurbished bicycles

  109. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I should mention (and I will do so for very game on the west coast, in particular the 830 starts), what an egregious time for the game to start. With that said, as of yesterday, I no longer wake up a 2:30am for the gym but at 3:50 (switched from a bulk to a cu t and want to shorten the day with the material calorie reduction) so its not quite as egregious.

    Pretty excited for tonight – lots of players I’m looking forward to seeing (Jones, the kid line, Marody, Jesse’s line, Talbot, Lagesson, etc.).

    – OP: how many hours of sleep do you get a night?

    – I’ve been ramping up my workouts (which I do once the summer is over and I’m not playing golf/tennis/swimming at cottage), but I can’t do a 5:30, then work all day and kids, etc, unless I go to bed at 9:00. I’m bagged if I do that more than 2-3x a week?

    – I’m a cross-fitter in the fall/winter (gets me ready for skiing, then for summer sports)

    – I chose cross-fit as it gives me the functional fitness I need for golf/skiing/tennis. I don’t work out to get jacked, rather to be able to excel at sports (and drink a little and indulge in nice meals without hurting waist-line and suits).

    – I don’t get how you are able to workout so early so often, then work and do stuff?

  110. Pescador says:

    leadfarmer: That’s how long it takes for those damn hipsters to bike to the arena on their refurbished bicycles

    Damned west coast hippies,
    Still better then Millennials

  111. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Jethro Tull: It’s still chemistry when shit blows up.

    That’s just great.

  112. Pescador says:

    Lowetide:
    Mitch Callahan (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Braden Christoffer (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Marc-Olivier Crevier-Morin (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Logan Day (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Luke Esposito (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Dave Gust (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Cameron Hebig (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Jake Kulevich (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Colin Larkin (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    John McFarland (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Evan Polei (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Stuart Skinner (G) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Ryan Van Stralen (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Tyler Vesel (F) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    Jared Wilson (D) – Bakersfield (AHL)

    https://www.nhl.com/oilers/news/release-oilers-trim-training-camp-roster/c-300222210

    Logan Day & Evan Polei stood out,
    HM: Vesel

    Polei might have got a sip of coffee with the 2011 OIlers rendition, post injuries.
    Oy, that was a forgettable roster.

  113. leadfarmer says:

    Guessing next big set of cuts is Monday after Sunday’s Winnipeg game.
    Vets don’t do the whole preseason traveling thing.
    That leaves us 3 games

  114. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – OP: how many hours of sleep do you get a night?

    – I’ve been ramping up my workouts (which I do once the summer is over and I’m not playing golf/tennis/swimming at cottage), but I can’t do a 5:30, then work all day and kids, etc, unless I go to bed at 9:00.I’m bagged if I do that more than 2-3x a week?

    – I’m a cross-fitter in the fall/winter (gets me ready for skiing, then for summer sports)

    – I chose cross-fit as it gives me the functional fitness I need for golf/skiing/tennis.I don’t work out to get jacked, rather to be able to excel at sports (and drink a little and indulge in nice meals without hurting waist-line and suits).

    – I don’t get how you are able to workout so early so often, then work and do stuff?

    With the change from going to gym for 4:15am from 3am, I will be getting about 5 hours and 45 minutes per night (subject to Oilers games going past 10pm). Yes, I know, even the extra sleep isn’t sufficiency and I’m not quite sure how I was able to do the 4 hours for so long as it is every day as I almost never do a full rest day (another issue on its own). I am so dedicated to my program and nutrition program but rest and recovery is, by far, my biggest issue – I don’t do it and I know its not good.

    One big difference between the two of us – I have no kids

    As far as “doing stuff” that is also an issue as I am so regimented, I don’t like to do “other stuff”. I eat the same things at the same time every day and I like it and I get stressed when I’m forced to deviate. Its got to the point where I don’t like to “do stuff” as it takes me away from my routine, even fun stuff like golf or playing sports at certain parts of the day or going to the theater, etc. I need to become more flexible but, honestly, am not willing at this point.

    Sorry everyone for the excess personal information that I’m sure you don’t care about.

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer:
    Guessing next big set of cuts is Monday after Sunday’s Winnipeg game.
    Vets don’t do the whole preseason traveling thing.
    That leaves us 3 games

    I think there will be some after tonight’s game – I wouldn’t be surprised to see McLeod (yes, even as good as he’s been) and Safin sent out after tonight.

  116. tileguy says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Try playing two hours of pickleball everyday!

  117. Richard S.S. says:

    Todd McLellan said the Rookies would get a couple of games. He also said something about needing to be ready for the Season before leaving for Europe. It will be indicative about who stays after this game.

  118. Andy Dufresne says:

    Pronman with an article up over at The Athletic.

    Ranks all the teams based on thier “Under age 23” talent. Pro and Amature combined.

    Interesting to see where we rank. But cant divulge based on LT 24 hour rule.

    We are in the top half of the league.

  119. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: I think there will be some after tonight’s game – I wouldn’t be surprised to see McLeod (yes, even as good as he’s been) and Safin sent out after tonight.

    Yeah definitely don’t need 45 players especially that we have to send some Nhlers to Winnipeg, but I’m guessing we will be down to under 30 by Monday

  120. Geranium Lover says:

    OriginalPouzar: With the change from going to gym for 4:15am from 3am, I will be getting about 5 hours and 45 minutes per night (subject to Oilers games going past 10pm).Yes, I know, even the extra sleep isn’t sufficiency and I’m not quite sure how I was able to do the 4 hours for so long as it is every day as I almost never do a full rest day (another issue on its own).I am so dedicated to my program and nutrition program but rest and recovery is, by far, my biggest issue – I don’t do it and I know its not good.

    One big difference between the two of us – I have no kids

    As far as “doing stuff” that is also an issue as I am so regimented, I don’t like to do “other stuff”.I eat the same things at the same time every day and I like it and I get stressed when I’m forced to deviate.Its got to the point where I don’t like to “do stuff” as it takes me away from my routine, even fun stuff like golf or playing sports at certain parts of the day or going to the theater, etc. I need to become more flexible but, honestly, am not willing at this point.

    Sorry everyone for the excess personal information that I’m sure you don’t care about.

    It’s very interesting and I appreciate you sharing this.

  121. jtblack says:

    Geranium Lover: It’s very interesting and I appreciate you sharing this.

    Good stuff OP.

    I have friends that can thrive off 5 – 6 hrs a night. I need (prefer) 8-9 & can nap at the drop of a hat. Been that way my whole life. Wish I could do the 4-6 hrs.

    I like the same routine over and over. Running. The gym. Love. Red wine craft beer. ok now

  122. jp says:

    Ryan: How is he going to fit when they trade for Faulk?

    Klefbomb – Larsson
    Nurse – Faulk
    Russell – Benning
    Gravel – Jerabek

    Actually, Bouchard making the team would probably be a pretty good tell they aren’t going to make a move for Faulk or similar. No?

  123. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: and Safin is eligible for the AHL.

    I think its very interesting that Safin is still here while Maksimov is gone (and Samorukov). It may be because he didn’t get in to a rookie game (due to injury) but maybe he is being evaluated for potential AHL assignment as opposed to back to the Q.

    If he plays all season in Bakersfield (i.e. not 10 NHL games), his contract would slide.

    Its a rare opportunity if he is ready for pro.

    I will say, his instagram over the summer was full of weird teenage Czech behavior and very little working out of any sort (one video at a gym and it was more of him and his boys goofing around).

    Also (and I think you mentioned this before), the Sea Dogs have 2 imports and not Safin listed on their 18-19 roster. http://sjseadogs.com/roster/8

    I’d guess Safin is heading to Bakersfield. Maybe they actually want him to turn pro to help him with his workout habits… (maybe you should coach, hehe)

  124. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I read alot about the chemistry between Brodziak and Upshall and I’m not entirely sure that its true – at least 5 on 5 last year – they both had a higher CF%, FF% and GF% without each other than when together.

    All their numbers were better together in 16-17 (though not so much in 15-16).

    More generally Brodziak and Upshall have been just crushed with zone starts – having most of their metrics in the range of break even is pretty impressive.

  125. jp says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    Andy Dufresne: Pronman with an article up over at The Athletic.

    Ranks all the teams based on thier “Under age 23” talent. Pro and Amature combined.

    Interesting to see where we rank. But cant divulge based on LT 24 hour rule.

    We are in the top half of the league.

    Cool. Worth the click/read.

  126. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: With the change from going to gym for 4:15am from 3am, I will be getting about 5 hours and 45 minutes per night (subject to Oilers games going past 10pm).Yes, I know, even the extra sleep isn’t sufficiency and I’m not quite sure how I was able to do the 4 hours for so long as it is every day as I almost never do a full rest day (another issue on its own).I am so dedicated to my program and nutrition program but rest and recovery is, by far, my biggest issue – I don’t do it and I know its not good.

    One big difference between the two of us – I have no kids

    As far as “doing stuff” that is also an issue as I am so regimented, I don’t like to do “other stuff”.I eat the same things at the same time every day and I like it and I get stressed when I’m forced to deviate.Its got to the point where I don’t like to “do stuff” as it takes me away from my routine, even fun stuff like golf or playing sports at certain parts of the day or going to the theater, etc. I need to become more flexible but, honestly, am not willing at this point.

    Sorry everyone for the excess personal information that I’m sure you don’t care about.

    I am the same in the sense that my 7 day routine from eat, sleep, work, workouts etc. need to be consistent or I actually get relatively bad anxiety. Vacations are awesome but for me they are actually quite stressful/anxiety causing as it is very hard to impossible to keep the routine when camping/backpacking – very odd and conflicting dichotomy I deal with.

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oh ya, I should mention, I’m also excited to see Safin and Marody tonight – I’ve only ever seen them streamed – likely Safin’s only game before reassignment and maybe The same for Marody.

  128. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: Also (and I think you mentioned this before), the Sea Dogs have 2 imports and not Safin listed on their 18-19 roster. http://sjseadogs.com/roster/8

    I’d guess Safin is heading to Bakersfield. Maybe they actually want him to turn pro to help him with his workout habits… (maybe you should coach, hehe)

    Yes, I have mentioned that (although I though I had heard that Prikryl might be heading back to Europe – that was a while ago though.

    Yes, I actually thought about the training part and have been wondering what type of training help the junior kids get for their teams prior to being drafted and associated with an NHL club.

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: All their numbers were better together in 16-17 (though not so much in 15-16).

    More generally Brodziak and Upshall have been just crushed with zone starts – having most of their metrics in the range of break even is pretty impressive.

    Yup, better together 2 years ago but not last year. Oh, for sure, tough zone starts and minutes, for sure, I was just speaking to the chemistry point as it didn’t seem to be the case this past season.

  130. flyfish1168 says:

    pts2pndr: We got Eakins and a mitt full of Marlies about the same time and how did that work for us? All that shines brightly out of Toronto is not gold!

    Better tell “Toronto Sports Network” that

  131. Soup Fascist says:

    What’s the deal with the little “hair hat” John Garrett is wearing?

  132. Oil2Oilers says:

    Soup Fascist:
    What’s the deal with the little “hair hat” John Garrett is wearing?

    I could not get the Stash on the other guy to evaluate. I assume bets were lost.

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    Glovjuice: I am the same in the sense that my 7 day routine from eat, sleep, work, workouts etc. need to be consistent or I actually get relatively bad anxiety. Vacations are awesome but for me they are actuallyquite stressful/anxiety causing as it is very hard to impossible to keep the routine when camping/backpacking – very odd and conflicting dichotomy I deal with.

    Oh, man, you have no idea – the planning I do prior to heading out of town on vacation (or otherwise is ridiculous).

    The wife “forced” me to go to her cousins cabin on Kootenay Lake on the long weekend. Most people don’t need to be forced but I didn’t want to be away from my gym and my food for 3 days. I brought my adjustable dumbells and got a few light workouts in but, more than anything, its the food – I count every calorie and macro to hit certain numbers – every single day. I brought a cooler full of pre-set out snack and meals – I basically brought my fridge on a 7 hour drive.

    I work out just as much (probably more) on vacations and I do NOT go off the rails with the food and always keep it within my calorie window.

    I’m off the Houston on business on Monday for a few days and I hate it – I’ll manage the food but it uses up alot of mental resources.

  134. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yup, better together 2 years ago but not last year.Oh, for sure, tough zone starts and minutes, for sure, I was just speaking to the chemistry point as it didn’t seem to be the case this past season.

    Yeah, definitely debatable how much chemistry there is. Clearly some familiarity there, Brodziak would no doubt be happy to have Upshall around again, but who knows if that matters at all results wise.

  135. Munny says:

    texmex:
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    Projected #Oilers forwards tonight in Vancouver are Khaira-Strome-Puljujarvi, Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian, Safin-Marody-Rattie, Benson-McLeod-Yamamoto with Vesey as the 13th.

    Bump.

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kid line with a very nice first shit – couple decent pucks toward the net.

  137. Munny says:

    Tough moment for Jones.

  138. OriginalPouzar says:

    Puljujarvi looks quick – big and fast.

  139. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa, Khaira destroyed Hutton there with that hit on the PK.

  140. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: Oh, man, you have no idea – the planning I do prior to heading out of town on vacation (or otherwise is ridiculous).

    The wife “forced” me to go to her cousins cabin on Kootenay Lake on the long weekend.Most people don’t need to be forced but I didn’t want to be away from my gym and my food for 3 days.I brought my adjustable dumbells and got a few light workouts in but, more than anything, its the food – I count every calorie and macro to hit certain numbers – every single day. I brought a cooler full of pre-set out snack and meals – I basically brought my fridge on a 7 hour drive.

    I work out just as much (probably more) on vacations and I do NOT go off the rails with the food and always keep it within my calorie window.

    I’m off the Houston on business on Monday for a few days and I hate it – I’ll manage the food but it uses up alot of mental resources.

    I’m not as in deep as you but can definitely relate – that’s for sure. Cheers. Go Oil.

  141. Munny says:

    Sepia vision!

  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa, some eventful moments at both end on that PK – quite a high event shift for Khaira.

  143. Gerta Rauss says:

    Soup Fascist:
    What’s the deal with the little “hair hat” John Garrett is wearing?

    It looked like he just got out of the shower

  144. Munny says:

    That was an excellent kill.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice save by Talbot there on the tipped shot and no rebound.

  146. Munny says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    I was thinking you might be at the game.

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice save by Talbot on a point blank chance by Sven B.

  148. theDjdj says:

    Andy Dufresne:
    Pronman with an article up over at The Athletic.

    Ranks all the teams based on thier “Under age 23” talent. Pro and Amature combined.

    Interesting to see where we rank. But cant divulge based on LT 24 hour rule.

    We are in the top half of the league.

    It is interesting isn’t it. I am tiring of the verbal that the organisation is trying to fail McDavid. Mistakes have been made for sure but the Oilers are not alone in this.

  149. Munny says:

    Pujo!

  150. OriginalPouzar says:

    Puljujarvi with a great cut back to open a shooting lane and scores – the shot was tipped and weak on Nilsson but a GREAT move to open up the lane.

  151. Lowetide says:

    JP with a nice start.

  152. jp says:

    More of that please Pulju!

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another solid stop by Talbot on a puck that changed direction – no rebound!

  154. Gerta Rauss says:

    Munny:
    ,

    I was thinking you might be at the game.

    nah-I work in Whistler(45 min north) and then having to drive to Van for a game (2 hours with traffic) and then back to Squamish (post game) is a long day. I’ve done it before when I was younger man.

    And it’s preseason.

  155. Derp says:

    hunter1909,

    I’ll take 91 points and Yak gets 21 goals.

  156. Bos8 says:

    Anyone have a link?

  157. RPG says:

    How are y’all watching?

  158. Gerta Rauss says:

    Having JP putting the puck in the net is good news all around-even if it is pre season

  159. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kid line gets some PP2 time.

  160. Munny says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Ah, knew you were in Squamish but didn’t know you had to head north to work. Would be tough to pass by the homestead and head into traffic hell.

  161. Gerta Rauss says:

    RPG:
    How are y’all watching?

    It’s on Sportsnet Pacific ch 223 in BC(shaw cable)…I’m sure its online as well but I’m enjoying this on the big screen tonight

  162. Munny says:

    TBot tbotting

  163. Gerta Rauss says:

    lol

  164. RPG says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    I could kiss you!

  165. OriginalPouzar says:

    Talbot with what would be a save of the year candidate if this was regular season.

  166. Lowetide says:

    Talbot looks good early.

  167. Gerta Rauss says:

    Having Talbot making stops like that is good news all around-even if it is pre season

  168. jp says:

    Woooow, hell of a save

    Would be huge he he was on the top of his game right out of the gate this year – never really got there at all last year.

  169. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tough shift for the kid line – hemmed in the entire time and Virtanen puts one off the cross-bar.

  170. jzed says:

    So far the swarm has generated two 2 on nothings in our crease, yikes, , are we sure TMac watched game film of our D zone coverage??

  171. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Talbot looks good early.

    Even taking away the incredible save – he just looks calm, compact and comfortable. A few shots have changed directions and he’s given up no rebounds.

    Then again, he did start the year with a shutout last season……

  172. Jaxon says:

    Is anyone streaming this game? I don’t have SportsNet.

  173. jp says:

    Reddit nhl streams for a link. Look for the Oilers/Canucks thread. The 1st one (HD) works great.

  174. Gerta Rauss says:

    RPG:
    ,

    I could kiss you!

    That better be your elbow

  175. Lowetide says:

    That one shift by the Gagner line caved the possession numbers for the entire period. Kid line had a time.

  176. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jaxon:
    Is anyone streaming this game? I don’t have SportsNet.

    Given the game is on SN, it won’t be streamed by the Oilers (or Canucks) – I’m sure there are some less than legal streams out there though.

  177. jp says:

    Petterson is gonna score some goals.

  178. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jones got walked by Horvat on that rush.

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp:
    Petterson is gonna score some goals.

    Bah – great goal scorers don’t step on the puck and fall down…….

  180. Gerta Rauss says:

    jp:
    Petterson is gonna score some goals.

    That was some mad puck skills there

  181. Lowetide says:

    Really nice shift by McLeod at the end of the period, he was down low and battling. My goodness he’s having a good week.

  182. Lowetide says:

    Was that Strome who got beat clean by Pettersson?

  183. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    1-0 Edmonton
    9-8 Vancouver in shots
    12-7 Vancouver in Corsi (it was all that one shift)

  184. jzed says:

    Khaira looks serious, that line has real potential. Benson and Yamamoto not pulling away from anyone today, hello Bakersfield. Let’s get the team together and get ready for the road.

  185. theDjdj says:

    Who’s looking impressive?

  186. geowal says:

    Niceness to sit and watch a whole period!

  187. OriginalPouzar says:

    jzed:
    Khaira looks serious, that line has real potential. Benson and Yamamoto not pulling away from anyone today, hello Bakersfield. Let’s get the team together and get ready for the road.

    Benson may get re-assigned shortly but I think they will give Kailer a little more than one period of not pulling away – don’t forget, that line had 3 straight pressure shifts early in the 1st.

  188. OriginalPouzar says:

    theDjdj:
    Who’s looking impressive?

    Talbot
    Khaira
    Puljujarvi
    Kassian
    Garrison
    McLeod

  189. tileguy says:

    I thought Kassian looked engaged.

  190. geowal says:

    theDjdj:
    Who’s looking impressive?

    Lowe isn’t. Overall…Talbot is most impressive.

  191. rickithebear says:

    Benning is so robot sublime.
    Defend HD , pass to Forward ASAP.
    Just SOE Robot yummy.

    Go Oilers!

  192. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Was that Strome who got beat clean by Pettersson?

    Yup:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/TheStanchion/status/1042249944613060608

  193. theDjdj says:

    OriginalPouzar: Talbot
    Khaira
    Puljujarvi
    Kassian
    Garrison
    McLeod

    I saw Talbots super save. I hope he starts the year strong like 16/17.

    Puljujarvi impressing is giving me cause to be optimistic. More rides on him then I think any other player without Mc or David in it

  194. rickithebear says:

    Lowetide:
    After One:

    1-0 Edmonton
    9-8 Vancouver in shots
    12-7 Vancouver in Corsi (it was all that one shift)

    What was the open shot density from the corsi. 😉

  195. jp says:

    They’re talking about whether Petterssen is going to make the Canucks or not. Hahahaha

  196. Oil2Oilers says:

    rickithebear:
    Benning is so robot sublime.
    Defend HD , pass to Forward ASAP.
    Just SOE Robot yummy.

    Go Oilers!

    Agreed, looks like a veteran, does the right thing consistently.

  197. Munny says:

    Will it count? This is such an important game.

  198. OriginalPouzar says:

    That should be a good goal.

    Rattie cleans up the garbage on the PP after Yamamoto and Benson somehow didn’t put it in.

  199. Pescador says:

    Ratts

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