Radar Love

After six games, the Edmonton Oilers are 5-1-0, are 19-10 in 5-on-5 goals and are tearing up the highway like a big old Cadillac. Even wayward goalie Mikko Koskinen got into the act, stopping 22 of 23 (.957) at 5-0n-5. There are 82 games that matter and we’re several days from the regular season. The balance photo is safely packed away but there are some answers that look like they might just fit. It’s been a good training camp.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Is this the year an Edmonton Oilers player wins the Calder Trophy?
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Evan Bouchard enlists former figure skater to help improve a weakness in his game.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Mikko Koskinen temporarily triumphs over Al Montoya, but the real battle for the backup role has just started
  • New Eric Duhatschek: Milan Lucic has made changes to try and get his swagger, and scoring touch, back.
  • Jonathan Willis: What does the preseason performance of Jesse Puljujarvi and Kailer Yamamoto mean for the Oilers?
  • Lowetide: Impressive Cooper Marody preseason could lead to NHL recall.
  • Lowetide: Oilers farm system beginning to resemble the real thing
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: A pair of Ryans: Oilers McLeod, Strome strengthen families’ bond as teammates.
  • Lowetide: After more Oilers’ cuts, roster decisions coming into focus.
  • Tyler Dellow: Is Connor McDavid good enough to make a power play with five left shots work?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Former Oiler Dave Manson on coaching, nicknames and his raspy voice.
  • New Lowetide: RE 18-19: Cam Talbot is key to Oilers success in 2018-19
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19: A case for the defence.
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19: Ryan Strome and the Oilers long journey to competent third and fourth lines
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19: Leon Draisaitl and the pursuit of a second outscoring line in ’18-19
  • Lowetide: RE 18-19: Can the McDavid line lead the 2018-19 Oilers to the playoffs?
  • New Jonathan Willis: Challenge accepted: Young RW’s showcase skill in Oilers preseason game.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Assessing the aftermath from Darnell Nurse’s deal with the Oilers.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Pleasant and unpleasant surprises from Tuesday’s training camp cuts.
  • New Lowetide: Oilers sign Nurse to a two-year deal.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Can Tobias Rieder be the perfect complement to Leon Draisaitl?

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Garrison-Bear went 11-9 Corsi for 5-on-5 in 13:13, 8-7 shots, 1-0 goals and 2-2-5 in offensive-neutral-defensive zone starts. I’m beginning to wonder if the Oilers are going to sign Garrison and keep both Bear and Bouchard (keeping eight blue). Bear rang a post, they were 4-5 in high-dangers, 3-4 in 4:57 against Panik-Stepan-Fischer. Bear is also much better at battles along the wall. He isn’t winning them, but also doesn’t get beaten quickly, suspect ‘man-strength’ is arriving for him. I’m encouraged by his progress.
  • Nurse-Benning went 9-18 in 19:01, 3-7 in shots and 0-1 in goals (the weak item, no blame for either blue). Went 8-6-9 in zone starts, 5-6 in 7:31 against Perlini-Keller-Hinostroza. They were 3-1 in high dangers, I am increasingly convinced this is ‘best available’ for the second pairing. Nurse drives down that right hand side like Steve McQueen in Bullitt—it’s an adrenalin rush for everyone.
  • Klefbom-Larsson were 4-8 in 14:10 together, 3-7 shots, 0-0 goals and 3-2-5 in zone faceoffs. Were 3-2 in 5:18 against the Keller line. Larsson was effective defending, even after making an insanely dangerous pass to Klefbom that was intercepted for what would have been a sure goal if not for Koskinen (and Larsson, who cleared the puck away). Klefbom displayed his rocket launcher on the power play, but went walkabout in overtime and reminding me of some spaz moments from a year ago.
  • Koskinen stopped 25 of 27, .926. He played well and he needed to, suspect the panic at the disco has passed for now. He made several outstanding saves in front of his teammates, suspect goalie (and coach) got their first good night’s sleep of training camp.
  • NHL.com and NaturalStatTrick.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Nuge-McDavid-Rattie went 12-10 in 14:43. The trio was quiet early, very loud late and a sonic boom in overtime. They were 11-5 in shots, 6-1 in high dangers. Were 2-6 in six minutes against OEL-Demers. McDavid is from the future, he’s a human cheat code. There was a play last night (Oesterle?) where McDavid took two strides from a standstill and left his opponent in the dust. A shocking, shocking player.
  • Caggiula-Brodziak-Aberg were 6-8 in 12:09, both wingers played better than they have in recent days (Caggiula has a medical reason). Trio was 2-2 in HDSC’s, Aberg grabbed a post late in the game with the result in the balance. Is it enough? He was average during this preseason but Aberg didn’t play anything close to a feature role throughout the piece. Caggiula shouldn’t make the roster based on performance.
  • Rieder-Strome-Puljujarvi were 5-9 in 10:39, 2-5 shots, 0-0 goals, 0-2 HDSC and 2-5-5 in faceoffs. Were the de facto No. 4 line in terms of usage, for the first time JP was the quiet man in the trio. Rieder’s goal was a nice one, big goal in the game too, Strome’s pass was nice but he needs to do more, has to be less vanilla.
  • Lucic-Draisaitl-Yamamoto were 5-9 in 13:37, 4-6 in shots, 0-1 in goals, 1-4 in HDSC and 2-2-4 faceoffs-zone starts. Lucic-Draisaitl had real chem early, Leon-Yamamoto some late. I would like to see Leon with Jesse Puljujarvi.

INDIVIDUAL SCORING, FORWARDS

  1. Ty Rattie 4, 7-4-11
  2. Connor McDavid 3, 3-6-9
  3. Kailer Yamamoto 5, 4-3-7
  4. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 3, 2-2-4
  5. Jesse Puljujarvi 5, 4-0-4
  6. Ryan Strome 3, 0-3-3
  7. Alex Chiasson 3, 0-2-2
  8. Jujhar Khaira 4, 0-2-2
  9. Milan Lucic 3, 1-1-2
  10. Pontus Aberg 4, 1-0-1
  11. Drake Caggiula 3, 0-1-1
  12. Leon Draisaitl 3, 0-1-1

Some of these men delivered fabulous preseason performances and in the cases of the three primary RW’s (Rattie, Yamamoto, Puljujarvi) it’s an especially powerful wallop. The outsiders (Aberg, Caggiula, Chiasson) never had a chance.

INDIVIDUAL SCORING, DEFENSE

  1. Evan Bouchard 3, 1-2-3
  2. Ethan Bear 4, 2-1-3
  3. Matt Benning 3, 0-3-3
  4. Oscar Klefbom 3, 1-1-2
  5. Adam Larsson 4, 0-1-1
  6. Darnell Nurse 4, 0-1-1

I have been mostly impressed with youngsters Bouchard and Bear, suspect we’ll see (as we did one year ago) the junior player emerge with the NHL job for nine games. Bear has taken a step though, and that’s a very good thing.

 

INDIVIDUAL STATS, GOALIES

  1. Cam Talbot 3, 1.50 .951
  2. Mikko Koskinen 3, 3.68 .855
  3. Al Montoya 1, 3.00 .929

A nice recovery from Koskinen, and with one game left I imagine we’ll see Cam Talbot in the final game before heading to Europe. The beginning of this season is unusual, hopefully the Oilers can stay the course and build momentum.

JESSE PULJUJARVI

  • Bob McKenzie: “Puljujarvi scored a couple last night, and he’s looking much, much better. He’s continued to take steps. He continually developed last year, but he looks to me like he’s going to have a big year. He’s really shooting the puck again the way he did when I saw him as a 16 & 17-year-old elite prospect at the world junior championship. This guy was just shooting the puck from everywhere & scoring a lot of goals. I think maybe he’s going to try to get back to that.” Source

I estimated Puljujarvi at 18 goals this season, that’s reasonable. If he scores 20, that’s in the range of reasonable. If JP hits 25, we are looking at something beyond what we could reasonably expect. He has averaged 14.69 shots per 60 at 5-on-5 this preseason (1.57/60 a year ago). This has the look of a giant leap, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves (as I absolutely get ahead of myself).

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we’re heading for the weekend and the final Saturday without regular season NHL hockey this fall. Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. Bob Cole’s final turn.
  • Jeff Paulus, FC Edmonton head coach. Eddies season tickets are available soon, and a big match (AlClassico versus Calgary’s CalvaryFC) goes tomorrow.
  • Matthew Iwanyk, TSN1260. Eskimos massive game tomorrow, we welcome Matt back from his vacation.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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194 Responses to "Radar Love"

  1. zatch says:

    I’m hopeful for the season, and it’s killing me. I would be interested to see where people think Drake will be at the end of this season, Edmonton, Bakersfield, or some other org.

    Will anyone be at the The Athletic M&G in Ottawa tonight? For those who have been to others, what can I expect? Should I yell at Dellow (not really)?

  2. 106 and 106 says:

    12th in scoring is Neon Leon: 3, 0-1-1

    Saving it for Germany?

    Hurt?

    Pre-season apathy?

  3. Ben says:

    So much quality on the waiver wire year after year at this time. Lower-placed teams (ahem) would do well to leave some spots open through the summer and scoop up the jewels as they slip through.

  4. 106 and 106 says:

    Ben,

    Speaking of Waiver Wire (on Ottawa’s Zack Smith): “Well, define ‘past,’” said Dreger. “I mean, if we want to go back prior to the trade deadline, Calgary I think kicked tires, maybe Edmonton had some interest. It was legit, but nothing that I think went too far down the path.”

  5. Clarkenstein says:

    If this team is “undone” early in the season it will be the D that will be the “undoing.” Still way too much chaos in the Oil end night after night. The numbers aren’t lying.

  6. 719 says:

    I am panicking! Wait where am I? In a disco!

  7. Jethro Tull says:

    106 and 106:
    Ben,

    Speaking of Waiver Wire (on Ottawa’s Zack Smith): “Well, define ‘past,’” said Dreger. “I mean, if we want to go back prior to the trade deadline, Calgary I think kicked tires, maybe Edmonton had some interest. It was legit, but nothing that I think went too far down the path.”

    Every time I get down about Oilers management making decisions based on things other than winning, Melnyk and Dorian shout “HOLD MY BEER!”

    And while it cheers me up, I feel so sorry for the Ottawa fans.

  8. 719 says:

    Clarkenstein:
    If this team is “undone” early in the season it will be the D that will be the “undoing.” Still way too much chaos in the Oil end night after night. The numbers aren’t lying.

    How much better does the D look like with Sekera. The D would have been a strong point for the first time in a long time.

  9. Jethro Tull says:

    719:
    I am panicking! Wait where am I? In a disco!

    Went to Oregon coast for family vay kay this year. Went to Jack White in Portland on a Saturday, drove back to the coast, as my wife had a beach race at 7am, then she was straight back to Portland for Panic! At the disco.

    Her first two concerts ever in one busy weekend! Sge said it was awesome to compare the two. Jack is a virtuoso, whilst Panic was all about visual effects.

  10. texmex says:

    Montoya on waivers today

  11. jtblack says:

    2019 DRAFT UPDATE
    2 highly ranked players are off to roaring starts.

    Kirby Dach, former 2nd pick in the WHL Bantam Draft, (ranked 5 – 10) is leading the WHL in scoring after a fast start. 7 pts in 2 games.

    Ryan Suzuki, former 1st overall pick in the OHL Bantam Draft, (ranked 10 – 25) is leading the OHL in scoring with 9pts in 3 games.

    Many other players had good starts as well. 2019 Draft is considered strong at the Top, similar to 2015. So some teams are going to hit home runs in the 10 – 30 range.

    Jack Hughes who is consensus #1 pick has 3 pts in 2 games for USDP.

  12. deardylan says:

    Hey Zatch,

    Hope we have enough healthy talent on lines 1-3 during season so Caggs will be driving the fourth line and keeping his lines Corsi and Plus/Minus is the black.

    Athletic event. Was at the one in Toronto yesterday night. It was packed house with an interactive and interesting Q&A with the panel. Many of questions were focused on Leafs and Connor McD came up often. The most interesting questions were the ones where people read recent articles of the panel and then asked some well thought out questions.

  13. OriginalPouzar says:

    McLellan’s verbal yesterday stopped just short of stating that they are going to start with 8D if they have some kids on the team and I think its clear at least one (if not both) of Bear and Bouchard will be on the team.

    Given Kailer tailing off in preseason like he did last year and not showing great in the 2RW spot, with only 13F to start the season, he is likely on his way to Bakersfield on Saturday which is just fine.

    He was a 22nd overall pick that is just turning pro – some AHL time should be expected.

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    Montoya on waivers and will head to Bakersfield.

    Shane Starret will be the emergency goalie in Europe.

  15. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bear had a very nice game last night.

    I noticed a few mistakes early (bad pass at the offensive blueline on a rush trying to force a play and a reverse behind our net that got picked off and led to possession against) but nothing egregious and his shot is a weapon (as is his ability to jump in to the play).

    Both Bear and Bouchard have similar but different skills, however, from what I’ve seen recently, Bouchard’s mistakes and deficiencies are higher event than Bears.

    Pressure will be on Bouchard on Saturday afternoon.

  16. OriginalPouzar says:

    A game last night for Rattie was key. Except for the assist on the winning goal, not much was working offensively but he still made a positive impact on the game and was involved in plays in a good way. If he can have a positive impact on the game away from the scoresheet, that will be a long ways.

  17. Rube Foster says:

    My issue with Caggiula is based on performance, cost and duplication on the roster.

    Rieder, Rattie, Yamamoto and Aberg are all similar styled players – smaller, speedy, offensive-ish wingers. I know this is the new NHL, but can you have five undersized guys in your line-up and be competive?

    I believe these five undersized guys are competing for different spots on the roster than Kassian, Chiason and Khaira.

    Rieder, Rattie and Yamamoto have all clearly outperformed Caggiula this preseason.
    I see the questions as follows – Is Caggiula worth a roster spot at twice the salary of Aberg? And, is Caggiula a better fit in your top nine than Aberg, because I’d take Chiason on my forth line and on my penalty kill everyday of the week over Caggiula.

    I don’t see a solid reason why Caggiula gets the Lucic treatment and earns a spot in the line-up based on his salary and not his performance.

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Rieder has got better and better as the games have gone on which is what you want to see.

    A very nice game from Tobias last night.

    At the same time, there were examples of why he should be in the bottom 6 in a perfect world – he had one nice rush late where he put the puck on net from a low-danger area but Jesse was streaking towards the net wide open and Rieder just didn’t see him.

  19. McNuge93 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Montoya on waivers and will head to Bakersfield.

    Shane Starret will be the emergency goalie in Europe.

    Makes sense I guess. No one will likely pick up Montoya off waivers given he’s only played 20 minutes. Gets to play some in the AHL to get up to speed. Still think he was shortchanged in camp this year.

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    I am on the Milan Lucic train – I am cheering for the guy and giving him my support.

    I see him better than he was during the last half of last season – he’s making more plays with the puck, nice little passes in transition, etc. Sure, the play has died on his stick as well but one step at a time.

    Once the season starts and the “snarliness” for guys like him and Larsson comes out, Milan is going to be a positive contributor.

  21. Fuge Udvar says:

    106 and 106:
    12th in scoring is Neon Leon:3, 0-1-1

    Saving it for Germany?

    Hurt?

    Pre-season apathy?

    J. Neal 5gp 1 point
    D. Doughty 3gp 1 point
    D. Pasternak 3gp 1 point
    J. Skinner 3gp 1 point
    S. Aho 2gp 1 point
    N. Backstrom 2gp 1 point

    It’s just preseason. These guys have nothing to prove. They are just warmin up

  22. flea says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Is this a bit of a slap in the face to Montoya? Or is it cap related? Maybe Montoya gets picked too? Calgary might think about it but likely are waiting for the Leafs goalie waiver with baited breath.

  23. Rondo says:

    Fuge Udvar: J. Neal 5gp 1 point
    D. Doughty 3gp 1 point
    D. Pasternak 3gp 1 point
    J. Skinner 3gp 1 point
    S. Aho 2gp 1 point
    N. Backstrom 2gp 1 point

    It’s just preseason. These guys have nothing to prove. They are just warmin up

    Tell that to McDavid

  24. Hockey Project says:

    Let’s be happy with the best news we’ve heard in awhile: the Cuban Lunch is returning.

  25. Bos8 says:

    flea,

    Good one

    “Baited breath”

    Blame the phone!

  26. Rondo says:

    Lucic looks the same as last year. Leon looks horrible for a 8 million dollar man.

  27. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Rattie’s a stud. Draisaitl’s a dud. Anton Lander’s a stud.

    #PreseasonTakeaways

  28. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Rondo:
    Lucic looks the same as last year. Leon looks horrible for a8 million dollar man.

    you’re going to delete this comment by regular season game 5. Give me a break

  29. Fuge Udvar says:

    Rondo,

    That is McDavid just warming up

  30. Bruce McCurdy says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Rieder has got better and better as the games have gone on which is what you want to see.

    A very nice game from Tobias last night.

    At the same time, there were examples of why he should be in the bottom 6 in a perfect world – he had one nice rush late where he put the puck on net from a low-danger area but Jesse was streaking towards the net wide open and Rieder just didn’t see him.

    Rieder Love.

  31. Rube Foster says:

    I’m cheering for Lucic too. He is an NHLer and belongs on the roster.
    I just do not believe that spot on the roster is in a top six role.
    The rationale seems to be, “we pay him $6,000,000 so that means he plays in our top six”, performance and metrics be damned.
    I believe Lucic can help us win Hockey games, but it is clearly not by dragging down Leon on the second line.
    I’d love to see Lucic, Brodziak, and Kassian on an old school bang and crash energy third line. You could play them against anybody. Put Strome on Leon’s wing with who ever is has the hot hand out of the five smurfs. Khaira can then be one of the best fourth line centres in the league and kill penalties.
    It’s not that I don’t like Milan, I’m growing to hate how he is deployed.

  32. OriginalPouzar says:

    Russell and Rattie not practicing this morning.

    Not sure what’s up with Russell. I do recall Rattie taking a dirty cross-check from behind in to the boards last night.

  33. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – I wanted to follow-up from yesterdays thread, where I feel I was unfairly maligned, with non-truthful posters who personalized attacks and misrepresented. I love this blog and everything about it

    – I replied to Decidely Skeptical Fan and said: “– I really do get a kick out of the Caggs stuff: sure he’s not perfect, but you’d think from some of the comments he’s the reason why we stunk last year”

    – Wilde gets it going by saying “would just make their contention directly to the poster on the day of the posting.” I didnt’ get that as I did reply directly to a poster! I then provided about 10 negative comments which helped shape my view that Caggs is genrally misaligned.

    – A couple of reasonable retorts about Caggs, a few jabs: normal course.

    -Then WG says I used to rip on LT every post, I’m passive agressive, and of poor caracter, then lies and says LT confirmed that I used to rip on LT every post, and that my “Great post LT” was actually some stchick that was not genuine. LT knows how much I respect all he does. WG: your not being fair, and I don’t appreciate it.

    – I’m not going to go back and requote myself. My beliefs and biases on this team are well-noted

    – Back to Caggs, I’m entiltled to come to the conclusion that many over-exagerate his role in the team’s demise. He scored more goals than most, his possession numbers were not the worst on the team, and I don’t know who could have played up the line-up last year rather than him.

    – If Talbot made more saves, everyone would look better. If Caggs was replaced with another $900K player I’m sure some might be better slightly, some might be worse slightly. He’s not a difference maker (nor would his $1.5MM replacement unless you cherry-pick), and he’s being slotted on 3rd and 4rth lines this pre-season

    – If some don’t like the way I present my discussion points, I’m happy to look at that. But don’t lie and say I I generalize when I responded directly to a poster, and don’t make veiled allusions to who I am as a person based on my contributions.

    – Thanks for reading. I’ve never insulted anyone here: I don’t appreciate feeling that I was

  34. Bruce McCurdy says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Russell and Rattie not practicing this morning.

    Not sure what’s up with Russell.I do recall Rattie taking a dirty cross-check from behind in to the boards last night.

    Rattie also blocked a shot & limped off late in the first.

    Russell may have blocked a shot at some point as well, just guessing.

  35. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Caggs reportedly playing through a nasty sinus issue, missed the beginning of camp, has looked pedestrian when he’s played. Can’t see a specialist until after the Oilers return from Europe for some reason (maybe cuz he’s not a Flame?). Have a nice flight(s)!

    Caggiula is a long way from my favourite player, but I’m prepared to accept that there may be legitimate reasons that he’s <100%. Some of the piling on of this still-young player is a bit over the top in my view.

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    flea:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Is this a bit of a slap in the face to Montoya? Or is it cap related? Maybe Montoya gets picked too? Calgary might think about it but likely are waiting for the Leafs goalie waiver with baited breath.

    Whether Koskinen or Montoya gets sent to the minors (they won’t have 3 goalies on the roster) is a net zero on the cap so its not cap related.

    I sure hope he clears, he is fantastic insurance for injuries, poor play, etc.

  37. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Caggiula is a long way from my favourite player, but I’m prepared to accept that there may be legitimate reasons that he’s <100%. Some of the piling on of this still-young player is a bit over the top in my view.

    – Yup – This is obviously my view as well, and its further over the top give his relative marginal contribution to the team given his role (or his replacement of similar ilk)

  38. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Baby Nuge turns 26 this season :O

    how could this be

  39. flea says:

    Bos8,

    Here’s your gold star . . .

  40. LadiesloveSmid says:

    TOR shopping Carrick.

    No world beater, could be a 3RD option

  41. npanciroli says:

    I like Carrick I would try and get him and let Bear and Bouchard simmer.

  42. Lowetide says:

    For The Athletic: Is this the year an Edmonton Oilers player wins the Calder Trophy?

    https://theathletic.com/550733/2018/09/28/lowetide-is-this-the-year-an-edmonton-oilers-player-wins-the-calder-trophy/

  43. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909’s 2018-19 Death March™ is Back!!

    Here’s how you enter:

    Predict the final points total of the Oilers 2018-19 season.

    Tie break: how many goals does Yakupov score in the KHL?

    That’s it!

    Contest open until puck drop in Europe.

  44. 106 and 106 says:

    Lowetide,

    without reading; also could be titled: Does Yamamoto win the McDavid RW slot?

    D’s don’t normally win.

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    Coach says both Rattie and Russell are banged up and won’t play tomorrow.

    Both will travel with the team to Europe and hopefully be ready to start the season.

  46. npanciroli says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Assuming Rattie is not ready for the start of the season, who does everyone think replaces him?

    I’m betting Yamamoto.

  47. 106 and 106 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    When you say “not till the regular season” I automatically think week to week.

    It’s just 4 days away.

    HOCKEYYY

  48. npanciroli says:

    I think I want to see Lucic – Drai – Rieder one more game. I do think this line can figure it out.

  49. Side says:

    npanciroli:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Assuming Rattie is not ready for the start of the season, who does everyone think replaces him?

    I’m betting Yamamoto.

    You could replace Caggiula, and I would be happy.

  50. OriginalPouzar says:

    Rieder will take Rattie’s spot at 1RW tomorrow which, I assume, means that Khaira is back at 3LW where he should be.

  51. npanciroli says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I actually wouldn’t mind seeing that. Rieder brings a lot of flexibility in this roster, nice to have.

  52. jtblack says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Coach says both Rattie and Russell are banged up and won’t play tomorrow.

    Both will travel with the team to Europe and hopefully be ready to start the season.

    OP: This is one big wildcard for Edmonton. Russell already banged up .. we know there are gong to be injuries to our D as the season progresses.

    Do you think PC makes a move after Europe (LTIR cap opens up) or do you think he will roll the dice with this crew?

  53. Andy Dufresne says:

    jtblack: OP: This is one big wildcard for Edmonton. Russell already banged up .. we know there are gong to be injuries to our D as the season progresses.

    Do you think PC makes a move after Europe (LTIR cap opens up) or do you think he will roll the dice with this crew?

    Its not Chias faulk if Russell gets injured and needs to be replaced. He’ll wait as long as he can and then bring someone in justin time.

  54. jtblack says:

    Not sure what this means. Just showing for comparison CAP HITS for different Positions.

    TEAM F D G TOTAL
    WPG 36 29 7 72
    NSH 37 23 9 69
    VAN 39 24 6 69
    CHI 40 22 9 71
    T.B. 44 25 5 74
    EDM 46 24 7 77
    TOR 44 20 6 70
    PIT 47 27 4 78

  55. OriginalPouzar says:

    I am hoping he doesn’t make any major moves that used the LTIR cushion in the first while.

    Using LTIR relief is frought with risk and is a very inefficient way to manage the cap.

    Using it means the team accrues no cap space daily to help with acquisitions later in the year and, of course, creates a massive issue if Sekera does come off LTIR this year (and we just don’t know).

    Not to mention, it doesn’t provide any cushion or relief for performance bonuses so, if we are using the relief to go over the initial cap, any bonuses vested by Puljujarvi (or Yamamoto or Bouchard) will create a cap penalty for next season – not good.

  56. Andy Dufresne says:

    jtblack:
    Not sure what this means. Just showing for comparisonCAP HITS for different Positions.

    TEAMFDGTOTAL
    WPG36297 72
    NSH 37239 69
    VAN 39246 69
    CHI 40229 71
    T.B. 44255 74
    EDM46247 77
    TOR 44206 70
    PIT 4727 478

    It means each team has 13 forwards, 8 defensmen and two gaolies……..just kidding

    and that only 2 teams have a generational talent at the forward position.

  57. Professor Q says:

    jtblack:
    2019 DRAFT UPDATE
    2 highly ranked players are off to roaring starts.

    Kirby Dach, former 2nd pick in the WHL Bantam Draft, (ranked 5 – 10) is leading the WHL in scoring after a fast start.7 pts in 2 games.

    Ryan Suzuki, former 1st overall pick in the OHL Bantam Draft, (ranked 10 – 25) is leading the OHL in scoring with 9pts in 3 games.

    Many other players had good starts as well. 2019 Draft is considered strong at the Top, similar to 2015. So some teams are going to hit home runs in the 10 – 30 range.

    Jack Hughes who is consensus #1 pick has 3 pts in 2 games for USDP.

    I knew that Barrie team last year seemed stacked with young to-be stars (many related to current and former NHLers or prospects). This year they just might push even further. Same with Ottawa.

    It will certainly help their draft stock!

  58. Alpine says:

    Rube Foster:
    My issue with Caggiula is based on performance, cost and duplication on the roster.

    Rieder, Rattie, Yamamoto and Aberg are all similar styled players – smaller, speedy, offensive-ish wingers. I know this is the new NHL, but can you have five undersized guys in your line-up and be competive?

    I believe these five undersized guys are competing for different spots on the roster than Kassian, Chiason and Khaira.

    Rieder, Rattie and Yamamoto have all clearly outperformed Caggiula this preseason.
    I see the questions as follows – Is Caggiula worth a roster spot at twice the salary of Aberg? And, is Caggiula a better fit in your top nine than Aberg, because I’d take Chiason on my forth line and on my penalty kill everyday of the week over Caggiula.

    I don’t see a solid reason why Caggiula gets the Lucic treatment and earns a spot in the line-up based on his salary and not his performance.

    I don’t really care one way or another if Caggiula is in the lineup but I don’t think having a handful of small players is a bad thing anymore. Rieder, Rattie and Aberg are all 5’11” and close to average height and Aberg is almost 200 lbs.

    Tampa has a pretty small forward group even after sending out Drouin and Namestnikov. They seem to be fine. Pittsburgh also won a couple cups with a smallish team.

    Vegas aren’t that big up front outside of Tuch and just added Stastny. San Jose’s forwards are mostly average sized outside of Thornton (slow), Kane and Hertl. LA are big but pretty slow and older. Ducks won’t even have Perry for most of the year and I think Kesler might be out a while too.

    Anyways I don’t think a team with Lucic, Khaira, Kassian and taller or bigger players like 97, Drai, Puljujarvi, Brodziak really needs to worry about having one too many smallish forward’s. Yamamoto and Caggiula are the only noticeably tiny ones and both likely won’t be playing every game if it’s too much of a concern.

    Size can help. Speed helps too and these days helps a bit more than size. Skill trumps all for the most part and this is probably the most skilled forward group we’ve seen in a couple years.

  59. Westchester Oil says:

    Ben:
    So much quality on the waiver wire year after year at this time. Lower-placed teams (ahem) would do well to leave some spots open through the summer and scoop up the jewels as they slip through.

    …and not hand out 2 x $1,5 mln contracts to the Caggiula’s of the world.

  60. dustrock says:

    Hockey draft weekend starting tonight everyone!

    Not as long-standing as some around here I’m sure, but our 14th consecutive, a great weekend away for me and my brother and 6 friends.

    We had done a weighted lottery every year with the 1st place finisher having the best chance at picking #1 again as a reward for winning last season.

    However, McDavid being just so so good has made everyone agree that it needs to be an unweighted, “straight” lottery for the first overall pick so everyone gets an equal chance at this special player.

    Pretty cool.

  61. npanciroli says:

    dustrock,

    Love hockey drafts, one of my favourite things about the season. Good luck!

  62. jtblack says:

    Andy Dufresne: It means each team has 13 forwards, 8 defensmen and two gaolies……..just kidding

    and that only 2 teams have a generational talent at the forward position.

    Tampa Winnipeg and Nashville have some sweet Cap Hits for prominent players. Huge Advantage ..

  63. Oilman99 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    A game last night for Rattie was key.Except for the assist on the winning goal, not much was working offensively but he still made a positive impact on the game and was involved in plays in a good way. If he can have a positive impact on the game away from the scoresheet, that will be a long ways.

    Rattie is a skill player playing with skill players, he knows his job as he has stated publicly,he will be fine.

  64. Andy Dufresne says:

    Lowetide:
    For The Athletic: Is this the year an Edmonton Oilers player wins the Calder Trophy?

    https://theathletic.com/550733/2018/09/28/lowetide-is-this-the-year-an-edmonton-oilers-player-wins-the-calder-trophy/

    Lets see….. Coffee, Kurri, Fhur, Marc Antoine Pouliot, RNH, Hall, Draisaitl, McDavid, …..uhhhh…..No…..I dont think this is the year.

  65. jtblack says:

    Andy Dufresne: It means each team has 13 forwards, 8 defensmen and two gaolies……..just kidding

    and that only 2 teams have a generational talent at the forward position.

    Interesting, Pittsburgh total goalie cap hit is $4 Million. We pay out backup $2.5 Mil …..

  66. npanciroli says:

    Speaking of hockey drafts, some people assisted me with some picks in mine – here were the results if anyone was curious. Snake draft picking teams with most points at end of the year (Team 1 picked first and last). 10 teams each leaving 1 unpicked (Ottawa lol).

    Team 1: Nashville, Toronto, Boston, Florida, Philadelphia, Carolina, Edmonton, Buffalo, Arizona, Vancouver
    Team 2: Washington, San Jose, Pittsburgh, LA, Vegas, Colorado, Dallas, Calgary, Islanders, Montreal
    Team 3: Winnipeg, TB, Anaheim, St. Louis, Columbus, Minnesota, Chicago, NJ, NYR, Detroit

  67. Melvis says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Despite all that,, you haven’t been accused of misogyny. Apparently some cockroach here surmised I harboured it’s various definitions against my mom, my sister, my grandmothers, my aunts, a finance, and everyone I’ve ever dated, plus half the population of the world.

    The only thing I despise, in fact, is assholism. Which tends to be gender neutral. That’s not an opinion. It’s a fact.

  68. Andy Dufresne says:

    jtblack: Tampa Winnipeg and Nashville have some sweet Cap Hits for prominent players. Huge Advantage ..

    Seemingly true……and yet not a single cup between them with ANYONE on the current rosters.

    Great GM’s unless you include championships in the criteria.

  69. Andy Dufresne says:

    jtblack: Interesting, Pittsburgh total goalie cap hit is $4 Million. We pay out backup $2.5 Mil …..

    Pittsburgh is the cream of the crop on this list IMO. In every respect….GMing, Cap Mgt, Championships.

  70. npanciroli says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    Never that impressed with the roster (defence I should say), but the top end players + fantastic coaching and timely goalering always seems to work for them.

  71. Oilman99 says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Rattie also blocked a shot & limped off late in the first.

    Russell may have blocked a shot at some point as well, just guessing.

    Rattie was still out there in ot to make the breakaway pass to McD, can’t be tha bad of an injury.

  72. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Melvis,

    – You still coming to the big smoke this fall?

    – By the way, that sucks that you felt misaligned. Your a joyful contributor here, and I can’t imagine why someone would poke at you…Funny my best friend is from St-Albert: must be something up there….

  73. OmJo says:

    Nuge-McDavid-Draisaitl
    Lucic-Strome-Rattie
    Reider-Brodziak-Puljujarvi
    Cagguila-Khaira-Chiasson
    Kassian

    Edit: Oops, forgot Rattie.

  74. godot10 says:

    106 and 106:
    12th in scoring is Neon Leon:3, 0-1-1

    Saving it for Germany?

    Hurt?

    Pre-season apathy?

    L-U-C-I-C

  75. Melvis says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    You mean Hogtown? Yes. I want to catch up with my sister late October and a couple of friends residing in Gananoque before they take off for the winter. That’s the current plan anyway, subject to change.

  76. jtblack says:

    Andy Dufresne: Seemingly true……and yet not a single cup between them with ANYONE on the current rosters.

    Great GM’s unless you include championships in the criteria.

    I think those teams not having a Cup has less to do with how we judge them and more to say about how hard it is to win the Cup ..

    Washington was a model franchise, but could never win the Cup and got no respect. Now that they won 1 after 13 years of Ovie time, they are considered a Great Franchise.

    Tampa Bay has been to the Eastern Conference Final 3 out of the last 4 years. That is excellent.
    Nashville just went to the Cup final 2 years ago.
    Winnipeg … West final ….

    I would say all 3 teams are in great position to be Cup Contenders for the next 5 years.

    There are 31 teams. 1 Cup. Odds of winning each year are 3.2%.

    I think a better measurement is more along LT’s theory where Playoff runs matter and Pennants count for something!!

  77. godot10 says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Rattie also blocked a shot & limped off late in the first.

    Russell may have blocked a shot at some point as well, just guessing.

    I seem to recall someone saying somewhere that

    Russell was hurt in practice Wednesday I think. Somebody elbowed him in the head during a battle drill…(Rattie?)

  78. Melvis says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: I can’t imagine why someone would poke at you…

    By pointing out the facts of rocknroll, which doesn’t mean what a significant number of people think it means. it’s etymology is rooted in an age old African American expression meaning “sex, drugs, and even more sex”… subject to it’s various expressions by any and all genders or pronouns one cares to use.

  79. godot10 says:

    npanciroli:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Assuming Rattie is not ready for the start of the season, who does everyone think replaces him?

    I’m betting Yamamoto.

    C’mom TMc…call Tobias into the office.

    https://youtu.be/dMpGhcbUu0A?t=56

  80. Richard S.S. says:

    Starting with today, there are eight days and just two Preseason games scheduled before the Season Opener. Plenty of time for Rattie and Russell to recover.

  81. Rake 2.0 says:

    Oilman99,

    He went into the boards pretty hard moments before that play happened to send McDavid in alone.

  82. Oil2Oilers says:

    My three concerns for the upcoming season;

    Defense is not good enough, especially at passing out of the zone. Benning taking a step forward and proving to be a decent 2RHD would help.

    Offense is not balanced. Coach accepting Lucic and possibly Rieder are only 3 line players would help. I am not confident this will happen before the season is lost anyway.

    The backup goalie is more suspect than gas station Donairs.

  83. stephen sheps says:

    Melvis,

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Let me know when this is happening. I’d like to get in on this action since I’m here and all.
    We ought to probably include deardylan as well since he’s great people. Hopefully we can even catch a game together, but just hanging out in real life would be fantastic.

  84. OmJo says:

    Andy Dufresne: Seemingly true……and yet not a single cup between them with ANYONE on the current rosters.

    Great GM’s unless you include championships in the criteria.

    I’d trade our cup winning GM for their championshipless GMs any day of the week…

  85. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Oil2Oilers:
    My three concerns for the upcoming season;

    Defense is not good enough, especially at passing out of the zone. Benning taking a step forward and proving to be a decent 2RHD would help.

    Offense is not balanced. Coach accepting Lucic and possibly Rieder are only 3 line players would help. I am not confident this will happen before the season is lost anyway.

    The backup goalie is more suspect than gas station Donairs.

    – Agree that D may be sup-optimal, and agree about Benning, but we do have 5 bona-fide D (maybe not slotted properly).

    – If Coach were to accept that Lucic and Rieder are 3rd line players today, who would Coach have as the 2nd liners, that for sure are better? Pool? Kailer? Jar?

    – One day, that would be awesome, but based on results to date, I think you slot Pool Jar and Kailer lower, and if one day they surpass the more experienced players you do that

    – It’s premature IMO to do so now

    – As for the balanced scoring: one year a bunch of players will outperform their expectations, or come into their own, and we will have elite, balanced scoring. Some of Kailer, Pool, Lucic, Caggs, Jar, Strome, Aberg etc doing better than conventional wisdom one year will be game changer

    – Koski: so far he’s being prepared properly. If he gets in 2-3 games in October, he’s got a better chance than any back-up since Talbot has been here.

    – We have not done a good job of giving the back-up what a back-up needs to suceed. It seems like they have a plan for Koski, and have not been fooled or panicked like so many here have. They have kept the course, and he’s improved every game, and getting more reps than any back-up has that I recall last few years. I like Koski’s comments, and attitiude, and trend-line

  86. hunter1909 says:

    Melvis:
    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Despite all that,, you haven’t been accused of misogyny. Apparently some cockroach here surmised I harboured it’s various definitions against my mom, my sister, my grandmothers, my aunts, a finance, and everyone I’ve ever dated, plus half the population of the world.

    The only thing I despise, in fact, is assholism. Which tends to be gender neutral. That’s not an opinion. It’s a fact.

    Hilarious. A roadie with a thin skin.

    I like getting called “sexist” by women. It means they’re making an effort to get to know me better.

  87. hunter1909 says:

    Melvis: By pointing out the facts of rocknroll, which doesn’t mean what a significant number of people think it means. it’s etymology is rooted in an age old African American expression meaning “sex, drugs, and even more sex”… subject to it’s various expressions by any and all genders or pronouns one cares to use.

    You’d have thought they’d have stamped it out.

  88. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – I wanted to follow-up from yesterdays thread, where I feel I was unfairly maligned, with non-truthful posters who personalized attacks and misrepresented.I love this blog and everything about it

    – I replied to Decidely Skeptical Fan and said: “– I really do get a kick out of the Caggs stuff: sure he’s not perfect, but you’d think from some of the comments he’s the reason why we stunk last year”

    – Wilde gets it going by saying “would just make their contention directly to the poster on the day of the posting.”I didnt’ get that as I did reply directly to a poster!I then provided about 10 negative comments which helped shape my view that Caggs is genrally misaligned.

    – A couple of reasonable retorts about Caggs, a few jabs: normal course.

    -Then WG says I used to rip on LT every post, I’m passive agressive, and of poor caracter, then lies and says LT confirmed that I used to rip on LT every post, and that my “Great post LT” was actually some stchick that was not genuine. LT knows how much I respect all he does.WG: your not being fair, and I don’t appreciate it.

    – I’m not going to go back and requote myself. My beliefs and biases on this team are well-noted

    – Back to Caggs, I’m entiltled to come to the conclusion that many over-exagerate his role in the team’s demise.He scored more goals than most, his possession numbers were not the worst on the team, and I don’t know who could have played up the line-up last year rather than him.

    – If Talbot made more saves, everyone would look better.If Caggs was replaced with another $900K player I’m sure some might be better slightly, some might be worse slightly.He’s not a difference maker (nor would his $1.5MM replacement unless you cherry-pick), and he’s being slotted on 3rd and 4rth lines this pre-season

    – If some don’t like the way I present my discussion points, I’m happy to look at that.But don’t lie and say I I generalize when I responded directly to a poster, and don’t make veiled allusions to who I am as a person based on my contributions.

    – Thanks for reading.I’ve never insulted anyone here: I don’t appreciate feeling that I was

    Oh, Jesus.

    First, you never responded to my post which asked a very simple question. You USED my post to begin a rant for a narrative you wished to push. And then you continued to push again and again and again. Secondly, I don’t mind a bit of “moving the goal post” now and again. It’s what makes this place interesting, at least for me. I just ask that after you are done, I can at least find the goal post somewhere on the playing field.

  89. Lowetide says:

    Oil2Oilers:
    My three concerns for the upcoming season;

    Defense is not good enough, especially at passing out of the zone. Benning taking a step forward and proving to be a decent 2RHD would help.

    Offense is not balanced. Coach accepting Lucic and possibly Rieder are only 3 line players would help. I am not confident this will happen before the season is lost anyway.

    The backup goalie is more suspect than gas station Donairs.

    The early season schedule means the backup goalie won’t play much and will be rusty when he gets into the net.

  90. hunter1909 says:

    haha some of you need to take a few chill pills.

    Who cares what people online think? It’s mostly just bullshit.

  91. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: The early season schedule means the backup goalie won’t play much and will be rusty when he gets into the net.

    I’m not paying attention to the pre-season as it’s rarely an indicator of anything much.

    I do think the team will bounce back to the level or better of 2016-17. McDavid factor.

    Being an Oiler fan is like being the “Tibet” of nations. We’re so much higher than the rest of the NHL. On the map, figuratively, etc.

  92. Bag of Pucks says:

    hunter1909:
    {{{{

    Who cares what people online think? It’s mostly just bullshit.

    You know how someone will say ‘I had this weird dream last night’ and your attention span immediately evacuates cos you know some random subsconscious bs is following?

    I have the exact same reaction when someone says, ‘I saw this thing on Facebook….’

    Stop curating your life people. No one cares about your skinny jean selfies, cat videos and food porn.

  93. VOR says:

    I am in a bind and looking for advice.

    I am catering for 150 people tomorrow night. Well I am leading a team of local Lions Club members. We are doing the food and booze.

    Booze is well under control.

    I am a vegetarian. I was just supposed to be doing garlic, rosemary mashed potatoes and grilled fall vegetables with a dipping sauce. Then the guy who was cooking the meat got called out of town. I assumed it would be roasts of some kind.

    I just got to the hall and discovered it is all what I was taught to call Picanha though I think Americans call it Top Sirloin Cap. It is about half fat, all on top, very lean meat underneath. I have no fancy cooking equipment just regular ovens, Abbas, and short order grills.

    Thoughts, recipes?

  94. Pescador says:

    hunter1909: I’m not paying attention to the pre-season as it’s rarely an indicator of anything much.

    I do think the team will bounce back to the level or better of 2016-17. McDavid factor.

    Being an Oiler fan is like being the “Tibet” of nations. We’re so much higher than the rest of the NHL. On the map, figuratively, etc.

    Yes & Oilers fans are virtually identical to a group of Buddhist Monks, vow of silence in tact
    Especially online

  95. Side says:

    Bag of Pucks: and food porn.

    You mean like.. when carrots get a bit too close to the donuts?

  96. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    VOR,

    I’ve sent an email to my spouse, and I’ll get back to you with better advice as it arrives.

    But, my first thought is to be sure to allow the meat to rest on the counter for an hour or so to allow it to come up to room temperature. Pat it dry with a paper towel. Season with a salt and pepper rub, maybe a bit of garlic, oregano and thyme. I like it simple, to allow the flavour of the meat to take centre stage.

    Since it sounds like the meat has a generous fat cap and is so lean underneath, I’d do a reverse sear. Set your oven to low heat (200F ish) and when it’s nearly ready, get the short order grille hot. Sear quickly on the meat side, slightly caramel brownish, just enough to seal in the juices. Next, move the roast into the oven on a pan, fat side up. Optional, however very tasty, is to put down some root veg in a splash of olive oil and a touch of salt on the bottom of the pan. That way the drippings season the veg. Use a meat thermometer to check how done the roast is, aim for medium rare as those who like more well done can eat around the edges.

    Also, and this is crucial, allow the roast to rest under some aluminum foil for about 15-20 minutes (size dependent) to allow the internal temperature to stabilize. It should increase about 5 degrees F during this time. So if you’re aiming for med-rare, remove from the oven at 125F internal temperature and serve at 130F.

    Hope this helps get the ball rolling!

    EDIT
    Of course, as soon as I post her email arrives:

    “It’s super easy!
    He will be totally fine!

    Follow instructions:
    https://www.thespruceeats.com/top-sirloin-cap-or-picanha-p2-4119892

    serve with a chimmichuri side garnish”

  97. Melvis says:

    stephen sheps,

    Of course!

  98. Melvis says:

    hunter1909,

    I don’t mind being called a sexist pig, if the shoe fits. Admittedly, I’ve been a hound from time to time. But that’s opposite of being a hater. Get your definitions straight.

  99. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Peter Chiarelli on the Jason Gregor show today. Gregor brought up Koskinen has a NMC (which isn’t listed on capfriendly), Chia confirmed but said waiving to be assigned to Bakersfield was covered during contract negotiations.

    Also mentioned that they are allowed to bring PTO players to Europe, and can carry AHL assigned/cleared players on the roster without having to immediately reassign which increases their flexibility.

  100. blainer says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – I wanted to follow-up from yesterdays thread, where I feel I was unfairly maligned, with non-truthful posters who personalized attacks and misrepresented.I love this blog and everything about it

    – I replied to Decidely Skeptical Fan and said: “– I really do get a kick out of the Caggs stuff: sure he’s not perfect, but you’d think from some of the comments he’s the reason why we stunk last year”

    – Wilde gets it going by saying “would just make their contention directly to the poster on the day of the posting.”I didnt’ get that as I did reply directly to a poster!I then provided about 10 negative comments which helped shape my view that Caggs is genrally misaligned.

    – A couple of reasonable retorts about Caggs, a few jabs: normal course.

    -Then WG says I used to rip on LT every post, I’m passive agressive, and of poor caracter, then lies and says LT confirmed that I used to rip on LT every post, and that my “Great post LT” was actually some stchick that was not genuine. LT knows how much I respect all he does.WG: your not being fair, and I don’t appreciate it.

    – I’m not going to go back and requote myself. My beliefs and biases on this team are well-noted

    – Back to Caggs, I’m entiltled to come to the conclusion that many over-exagerate his role in the team’s demise.He scored more goals than most, his possession numbers were not the worst on the team, and I don’t know who could have played up the line-up last year rather than him.

    – If Talbot made more saves, everyone would look better.If Caggs was replaced with another $900K player I’m sure some might be better slightly, some might be worse slightly.He’s not a difference maker (nor would his $1.5MM replacement unless you cherry-pick), and he’s being slotted on 3rd and 4rth lines this pre-season

    – If some don’t like the way I present my discussion points, I’m happy to look at that.But don’t lie and say I I generalize when I responded directly to a poster, and don’t make veiled allusions to who I am as a person based on my contributions.

    – Thanks for reading.I’ve never insulted anyone here: I don’t appreciate feeling that I was

    Hey Kinger… just so ya know.. I think you’re an awesome poster and one of the few people whose comments I never skip.. cheers

  101. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Chiarelli on Bouchard:
    If we were to make the team today, Bouchard would be on it based on that nine game test period.

  102. defmn says:

    Melvis:
    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    You mean Hogtown? Yes. I want to catch up with my sister late October and a couple of friends residing in Gananoque before they take off for the winter. That’s the current plan anyway, subject to change.

    Only here would I read about somebody heading to Gananoque. Hi from Kingston. 😉

  103. defmn says:

    blainer: Hey Kinger… just so ya know.. I think you’re an awesome poster and one of the few people whose comments I neverskip.. cheers

    Agreed on both points.

  104. hunter1909 says:

    Melvis:
    hunter1909,

    I don’t mind being called a sexist pig, if the shoe fits. Admittedly, I’ve been a hound from time to time. But that’s opposite of being a hater. Get your definitions straight.

    lol

  105. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Chiarelli mentioned they electrically monitor load on players in practices, track sleeping patterns of players.

  106. 106 and 106 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    I saw Hall many late nights at The Ranch (I was there too so my bad as well). Tracking his sleep would have been interesting during that era.

  107. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilman99: Rattie is a skill player playing with skill players, he knows his job as he has stated publicly,he will be fine.

    I’m not sure that him stating he will be fine means that he will be fine.

    My point was simple, when the production isn’t there for Rattie for a game or a stretch of games, he needs to be able to not be a negative out there – to be able to still make plays, to be in the right position defensively, etc. To this date in his career, he has not been able to do that at the NHL level. Last night, we was doing the little things that will allow him to stay in the lineup, and up the lineup, even during the production dry spells, which will happen.

  108. OmJo says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Peter Chiarelli on the Jason Gregor show today.Gregor brought up Koskinen has a NMC (which isn’t listed on capfriendly), Chia confirmed but said waiving to be assigned to Bakersfield was covered during contract negotiations.

    Also mentioned that they are allowed to bring PTO players to Europe, and can carry AHL assigned/cleared players on the roster without having to immediately reassign which increases their flexibility.

    What’s the name of Koskinen’s agent?

  109. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: L-U-C-I-C

    P-R-E-A-S-E-A-S-O-N

  110. Melvis says:

    defmn,

    Well, It’s a hell of a nice part of the world. Hi yourself;-)

  111. Clarkenstein says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Caggs reportedly playing through a nasty sinus issue, missed the beginning of camp, has looked pedestrian when he’s played.Can’t see a specialist until after the Oilers return from Europe for some reason (maybe cuz he’s not a Flame?). Have a nice flight(s)!

    Caggiula is a long way from my favourite player, but I’m prepared to accept that there may be legitimate reasons that he’s <100%. Some of the piling on of this still-young player is a bit over the top in my view.

    Even if he’s a 150% percent healthy he doesn’t make my Oilers team. I think he has been an adequate fill in until the Rattie’s, Yamamoto’s and Pulu’s arrived. They’re here, he goes.

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    Richard S.S.:
    Starting with today, there are eight days and just two Preseason games scheduled before the Season Opener.Plenty of time for Rattie and Russell to recover.

    Well, that would be dependent on what is wrong with them though and we really don’t know.

    Sounds like it may be a head thing for Russell which, often, take a while.

  113. Melvis says:

    hunter1909,

    One of these days you’re going to “lol ” yourself into the fucking online flaying of a lifetime. LOL

  114. PennersPancakes says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey: Gregor brought up Koskinen has a NMC

    The generosity of Pete strikes again, that man just gives and gives. I don’t understand his contract negotiations especially considering he used to be a player agent.

  115. Todd Macallan says:

    Any Lowetidians in TO going to the Leaf game tonight? In town for a conference, considering going last minute

  116. hunter1909 says:

    Melvis:
    hunter1909,

    One of these days you’re going to “lol ” yourself into the fucking online flaying of a lifetime. LOL

    ps: online flayings are easier to take than actual beatings i’ve taken on occasion, lol

  117. hunter1909 says:

    Melvis:
    hunter1909,

    One of these days you’re going to “lol ” yourself into the fucking online flaying of a lifetime. LOL

    Most of the time you seem like a good natured, well adjusted type.

  118. Melvis says:

    hunter1909,

    I’ve never taken an actual beating, although I’ve handed out a couple. LOL

  119. --hudson-- says:

    Some interesting comments from McLellan today:
    – Montoya’s wife is pregnant? Seems to be the reason they put him on waivers today.
    – Repeated comments from last season on Strome and how they were disappointed with his scoring rates but happy with his play at center and on the PK. (but as OP says, did they really give him a shot?)
    – Rieder may get a shot on the first line tomorrow night with Nuge playing the offwing.

    Source video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUyENyoiZdk
    ————————————————–
    Q: How are Ty Rattie and Kris Russell?
    A: Both are banged up a little bit, neither will play tomorrow, both are expected to make the trip and hopefully be ready for opening night.

    Q: We saw Al (Montoya) get a wave to be assigned to Bakersfield today, there’s still a couple guys here on PTO’s… Are there any other roster moves coming or updates with the PTO’s?
    Q: Well there has to be some roster moves coming obviously you look at the numbers. So that has to happen. In Al’s situation he’s got a family thing going on with a pregnancy and that type of stuff, so we felt that we could give them a couple days right now to see his family, and get that organized and get everything in order there. And then as we go forward we have the two goaltenders. Now we need to bring a third over to Europe and we’ll do that and then we will start the season.

    Q: Do you want to still look at tomorrow’s game before you decide the 24 that are going to Europe?
    A: Yep

    Q: Will Connor play tomorrow?
    A: Yep

    Q: In speaking to Leon Draisaitl today he said he’s a traditional slow starter when it comes to the preseason and what ways can the coaching staff and his teammates maybe kind of help mitigate that or help him find his game early on?
    A: Well we’re there’s some good things coming up for Leon. I said this yesterday yeah he hasn’t scored a bunch of goals or anything and that’s okay it’s not about that. It’s getting his legs underneath him, making plays, feeling good on the ice. Game management’s a big thing for him and for our team right now. Playing situations well and the offense is going to come. He’ll continue to create for himself and for his line mates so I’m not too concerned about that. I think everybody is, I hope not everybody is looking beyond you know tomorrow’s game, because that’s an important game, but I think there would be some excitement now for the group to get to a Europe and in particular for Tobias and Leon. We’re going to his home, his dad happens to coach the other team, he’s gone some energy and some excitement about family and friends being around there. We forget often what it’s like for European players. Over here our families are around, and even if you’re in Toronto, Connors family can come over and be here. It’s tougher for the European players to have that happen and we’ve rarely ever go to their environment, parents, friends, family come to our environment. So it’s exciting for them.

    Q: Todd when it comes to Cam Talbot what have you liked during the preseason and do you like where he’s at right now heading into the regular season?
    A: Really like where he’s out right now. Obviously like the way he’s playing in the calmness, the confidence that he’s showing in his game, the way he’s carrying himself, off the rink practice habits. Everything about his game right now is really good now. That being said he’s gonna have some night some off nights, we all have them, and the recovery from those will be important. We talked about that yesterday. We talked about that the group around him has to recover, and be real good, and Talb’s will do his thing. But he’s in a good spot right now.

    Q: How much emphasis do you place on the importance of experience in an end of roster position. So you got a couple of experienced guys on PTO’s does that factor into your final decisions?
    A: Yes and no. Experience just for the fact that you’ve played in the league doesn’t. Everybody’s end comes at some point and if the end has arrived there’s no sense keeping experience around. You’ve got to bring something, you got to be able to play, and it is a… Teams have shown at the youthful energy that some of the younger players bring, they may make more mistakes maybe, they haven’t played as many games, but they tend to bring a lot of energy to the game so there’s a balance between both.

    Q: You mentioned the guys that are kind of iffy in the next 48 hours or whatever, you have to take a plane in that period. Are you taking a couple extra guys over?
    A: We have the luxury of taking the whole camp right now and go to Germany. We can do that because we still have an exhibition game to play. Players can play that exhibition game on a PTO is what I understand, and we’ve got two players that are banged up that, we didn’t count on them being banged up so now the roster grows by a couple. We’ve sorted out the goaltender situation for now, we’ll have a third one coming with us. So there may be one or two moves, potentially three at the most before we go, but we’ve got to get through another game, knock on wood, somebody gets banged up. We sure don’t want two guys flying to Bakersfield while we’re taking off for Germany, so things are gonna happen quick tomorrow.

    Q: I was talking to Ethan in there, he said he has no idea one way or the other. From what you said here, it looks like you’re leaning toward 8 defenseman for that trip, is that accurate?
    A: Potentially. If you include Kris Russell in that mix, for sure eight because he’s he hasn’t skated for a couple days, and we’re not sure when he’ll be active. So definitely eight and if you want to throw Sekera into the mix we’ll have nine.

    Q: Totally shifting gears here. How would you characterize the team as a whole? I mean you’ve got all these different emotions, excitement, anxiety all those things they’re all wrapped up into a package here.
    A: Yeah they are. It’s a different season, it’s a new season, one there’s emotion that comes in with that because you’ve got a bitter taste in your mouth about the past. So new season that way. It’s a different preseason because of the quickness of picking your team, and the trip overseas, so there’s emotion there. The long journey ahead of us, there’s some planning and some tactics that go into planning a 14-15 day road trip to two different countries, and so it is different, and I’m kind of glad it’s been different. It’s not the routine that we normally go through. Maybe jolts a few of the players, but the presentation overall by the players throughout camp has been real positive, there they’ve been attentive, they’ve worked, they’ve made mistakes which allows us to have some teaching moments. They’ve accepted those mistakes, they want to work on them and get better at it. The freewheeling, wide open 262 goals against has found its way into our game, but not on a regular basis, we’ve been able to tighten some things up. Goaltender’s played better, we still got some work to do on special teams, but we’re very young in the evolution of this year’s team, and got a lot of work to do,

    Q: This sort of piggybacks off that, like I look at this trip is not just leading up to that regular season game, but the games after that right. Getting your game in the right place for the start of the season. What specifically have you done to get ready for a trip, like the early practices, and what will you do on the trip to make this a business trip, so it prepares you not just for Gothenburg but after Gothenburg?
    A: Well we told the players that we want them to enjoy this trip. We want them to find ways, away from the rink, to come together as a team, to discuss any issues we may have, how we want to play, and those types of things. Call a team-building if you will, as I said yesterday the best team-building we can do on this trip, is win games. But there’s opportunities away from the rink for us to discuss things, to get together, to have a little bit of fun, to enjoy the experience. In Leon and Tobias case, to be good hosts and to be proud of their cities. There’s some Swedes that are on our team that are gonna have family around. So let’s say it’s the complete package. We always think of hockey, as the players, the puck, and the goals, but there’s a lot of things that go on in players lives, we saw a lot of it last year here, and we want them to enjoy the experience, have their families around them. But it is a business trip, when it’s time to perform, we’re going to be as good as we possibly can, not only in Europe but in Boston, in New York, Winnipeg.

    Q: Todd a lot has been made about your top line at camp, and I’m just curious, I know McDavid did play with Rattie at the end of last season, but do you find as a superstar player, as a front line center, did you find that he has changed his game a little bit or does things to adapt to different wingers that aren’t clearly superstars?
    A: Not necessarily changed his game. I think he’s looking for some consistency with his line mates, I think he would appreciate that, and that comes with that group playing consistently. I don’t feel like he’s changed his game much. Players have figured out how to play with them a little bit more, which is important. Nuge can complement to any type of player. Nuge could play with Leon, or Nuge could play with Connor, and I think the combination of both of them would be great. He’s that good a player himself. And ty has come in and fit that spot for now, and we expect him to stay there, but he has a skillset, and a sense of timing that complements the other two.

    Q: Todd just going back and focus on Europe. I mean you’ve probably coached in a number of different scenarios, looking at the opposite coach on the other bench, but it’s gonna be Leon’s dad next Wednesday. What’s that scenario like one of your players father being on the other bench and have you thought about what…
    A: We better get the best pre-scout in the world from Leon right. So there’s a lot of responsibility we’re putting on him, but in my experience in that game with Leon, and Leon’s dad, that will be a new one for me, but it’s an honor. I know Mr. Draisatl has a tremendous hockey mind, he’s a well-respected coach in Europe, they’re very lucky to have him as their coach, and his team will be well prepared. As I mentioned the other day, my experience from San Jose, going over and that type of stuff, that first game is a tough one. It doesn’t matter who you play, you’re a little bit sluggish, the ice size is different, you’re playing usually at a time where you’re just waking up or crawling out of bed. There’s a lot of things that go on in that first one. We want everybody to get their legs underneath them in that game, everybody will get to play, and play in different situations. It’s way more about us adapting to the time, the environment, than it is tactics or anything like that. So they’ll give us a run for our money, I can tell you that, based on experience.

    Q: Just finally I know obviously English is spoken throughout Europe, but any remedial German or Swedish classes or anything like that?
    A: No, I’m sure the swear words come out first right. Everybody’s bilingual when it comes to swearing and I’m sure those have been shared with already or probably heard in the locker room. But there may be some on the plane, I don’t know we’ll see.

    Q: Todd what’s your assessment of guys like Ryan Strome who’ve really had their roles kind of defined early in pre-season? heading into Europe how do you think they’ve responded to their roles and going forward how that’s going to develop?
    A: Well Stromer, in particular when he joined our team, we anticipated him filling a hole and filling the net a little bit. What we found out as we went on, that he could do that, but maybe not at the rate that we thought, and eventually as the year went on we found a spot for him at center ice. We found a role for him in dealing with some of our players, Jessie in particular, they’ve got a good relationship, and he’s been able to help him come along. Our penalty kill improved significantly when he took more responsibility on, him and JJ Khaira were big parts of that. So maybe the assumption on our behalf that he could fill the net, wasn’t fair to the player, or maybe he can still do that. But what he has found is a is a pretty good role or niche right now with our group, and he when he plays to that, he’s a very effective player.

    Q: With Rattie out, who’s going to be the right winger with Connor?
    A: Well we’ll have some options, we’re still throwing that around. Today we had Tobias up there and Pontus. Again our lineup tomorrow, if you think that’s our opening night lineup, it probably won’t be based on health and moving players around. I’d like to see what Toby does with those two, with Connor and Nuge playing his off wing, so we made experiment with that, we’d like to get JJ and Kass back in into the lineup, so there will be some guys moving around

  120. Melvis says:

    hunter1909,

    Most of the time I am. However, at certain times, on certain days, the patience runs out. There’s a limit to getting poked at.

  121. Richard S.S. says:

    No one can conceive that Mikko Koskinen had multiple Teams after his services. He had multi-year offers. He choose Edmonton. Deliberately ignoring multiple sources at the time of his signing suggests ostrich-like behavior in modern troglodytes.

  122. hunter1909 says:

    Draisaitl’s saving himself for his German debut with the Oilers.

    Does anyone think he’s going to risk playing in Germany, as a member of the Oilers to impress a few preseason fanatics?

  123. hunter1909 says:

    Richard S.S.:
    No one can conceive that Mikko Koskinen had multiple Teams after his services.He had multi-year offers.He choose Edmonton.Deliberately ignoring multiple sources at the time of his signing suggests ostrich-like behavior in modern troglodytes.

    It’s a wee bit early to crucify the Russian. Even Yakupov got half of a season.

  124. leadfarmer says:

    –hudson–,

    The shocking thing is they expected more offense from Strome. Who the heck was scouting this guy

  125. Doug McLachlan says:

    dustrock:
    Hockey draft weekend starting tonight everyone!

    Not as long-standing as some around here I’m sure, but our 14th consecutive, a great weekend away for me and my brother and 6 friends.

    We had done a weighted lottery every year with the 1st place finisher having the best chance at picking #1 again as a reward for winning last season.

    However, McDavid being just so so good has made everyone agree that it needs to be an unweighted, “straight” lottery for the first overall pick so everyone gets an equal chance at this special player.

    Pretty cool.

    Hey Dustin,

    Good luck with your draft. We had ours last weekend in Calgary and all 12 of us made it (from as far away as BC and Thunder Bay). Always a good time to see old friends, toss back a few and fake GM a team to victory.

    14 years is a good run. We started in 1990 and still have most of the original crew involved.

    Enjoy and good luck getting McDavid 🙂

  126. VOR says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    VOR,

    I’ve sent an email to my spouse, and I’ll get back to you with better advice as it arrives.

    But, my first thought is to be sure to allow the meat to rest on the counter for an hour or so to allow it to come up to room temperature.Pat it dry with a paper towel.Season with a salt and pepper rub, maybe a bit of garlic, oregano and thyme.I like it simple, to allow the flavour of the meat to take centre stage.

    Since it sounds like the meat has a generous fat cap and is so lean underneath, I’d do a reverse sear.Set your oven to low heat (200F ish) and when it’s nearly ready, get the short order grille hot.Sear quickly on the meat side, slightly caramel brownish, just enough to seal in the juices.Next, move the roast into the oven on a pan, fat side up.Optional, however very tasty, is to put down some root veg in a splash of olive oil and a touch of salt on the bottom of the pan.That way the drippings season the veg.Use a meat thermometer to check how done the roast is, aim for medium rare as those who like more well done can eat around the edges.

    Also, and this is crucial, allow the roast to rest under some aluminum foil for about 15-20 minutes (size dependent) to allow the internal temperature to stabilize.It should increase about 5 degrees F during this time.So if you’re aiming for med-rare, remove from the oven at 125F internal temperature and serve at 130F.

    Hope this helps get the ball rolling!

    EDIT
    Of course, as soon as I post her email arrives:

    “It’s super easy!
    He will be totally fine!

    Follow instructions:
    https://www.thespruceeats.com/top-sirloin-cap-or-picanha-p2-4119892

    serve with a chimmichuri side garnish”

    That sounds both doable and incredibly good. Thanks to you and your wife.

  127. tileguy says:

    This from the cult of hockey Davis Staples that I found really really really interesting and really shows how well Rattie is suited for the top line Nd Puljujarvi is for the third line. Finally an advanced stat that nakes sense to me.
    Sorry, cant seem to cut and paste this chart but here is the link
    https://postmediaedmontonjournal2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/screen-shot-2018-09-26-at-11-06-22-pm.png

    Their differing styles of play and of attaining success were on full display in Edmonton’s 6-0 win over Vancouver on Tuesday night, when Rattie got a hat trick and Puljujarvi scored twice.

    In the game, by my count Puljujarvi had 36 touches of the puck, Rattie 34, so almost the same number, but their touches had different qualities.

    In only two of Rattie’s 34 touches did he possess the puck longer than two seconds. In half of his touches, 17 out of 34, the puck was on and off his stick almost at once and that includes all three of his goals.

    As for Puljujarvi, nine of his 36 touches were lengthy possessions more than three seconds long (a small eternity in the NHL when it comes to carrying the puck), often with Puljujarvi moving the puck up ice from the neutral to the offensive zone.

  128. jtblack says:

    Lowetide: The early season schedule means the backup goalie won’t play much and will be rusty when he gets into the net.

    This is why it’s important for the coach to get the backup goalie in regularly.

    It accomplishes two things
    1) he gives his starter proper rest
    2) and allows the backup to get into a Groove and actually contribute to the team

  129. Andy Dufresne says:

    OmJo: I’d trade our cup winning GM for their championshipless GMs any day of the week…

    What if he wins another one before any of these other guys? You’d still take the championshipless GM’s?

  130. who says:

    tileguy:
    This from the cult of hockey Davis Staples that I found really really really interesting and really shows how well Rattie is suited for the top line Nd Puljujarvi is for the third line. Finally an advanced stat that nakes sense to me.
    Sorry, cant seem to cut and paste this chart but here is the link
    https://postmediaedmontonjournal2.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/screen-shot-2018-09-26-at-11-06-22-pm.png

    Their differing styles of play and of attaining success were on full display in Edmonton’s 6-0 win over Vancouver on Tuesday night, when Rattie got a hat trick and Puljujarvi scored twice.

    In the game, by my count Puljujarvi had 36 touches of the puck, Rattie 34, so almost the same number, but their touches had different qualities.

    In only two of Rattie’s 34 touches did he possess the puck longer than two seconds. In half of his touches, 17 out of 34, the puck was on and off his stick almost at once and that includes all three of his goals.

    As for Puljujarvi, nine of his 36 touches were lengthy possessions more than three seconds long (a small eternity in the NHL when it comes to carrying the puck), often with Puljujarvi moving the puck up ice from the neutral to the offensive zone.

    Yeah I read this a few days ago.
    I think it desribes the two players and their play perfectly. One is a potential line driver and one is a potential complimentary player.
    By the way, I believe Yamamoto will fit in a complimentary player role when he gets here full time.

  131. Andy Dufresne says:

    hunter1909: I’m not paying attention to the pre-season as it’s rarely an indicator of anything much.

    I do think the team will bounce back to the level or better of 2016-17. McDavid factor.

    Being an Oiler fan is like being the “Tibet” of nations. We’re so much higher than the rest of the NHL. On the map, figuratively, etc.

    And we’ve got the Dalai Lama of hockey.

    #McDeity

  132. Andy Dufresne says:

    hunter1909: You’d have thought they’d have stamped it out.

    They tried……..thats how sadomasochism was invented…..

    and foot fetishes…….

  133. Andy Dufresne says:

    Side: You mean like.. when carrots get a bit too close to the donuts?

    aahhheeemmm…….you mean the cucumbers get to close to the donuts…..AMARIGHT!?!

  134. Andy Dufresne says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Chiarelli mentioned they electrically monitor load on players in practices, track sleeping patterns of players.

    Oh Great……..Corsi….Corsi 5×5….Corsi / goodnightssleep Corsi / badnightssleep…..

  135. Andy Dufresne says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Peter Chiarelli on the Jason Gregor show today.Gregor brought up Koskinen has a NMC (which isn’t listed on capfriendly), Chia confirmed but said waiving to be assigned to Bakersfield was covered during contract negotiations.

    Also mentioned that they are allowed to bring PTO players to Europe, and can carry AHL assigned/cleared players on the roster without having to immediately reassign which increases their flexibility.

    First thanks for the updates…

    So this means Koskinen can be sent to the minors?

  136. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Andy Dufresne: Its not Chias faulk if Russell gets injured and needs to be replaced. He’ll wait as long as he can and then bring someone in justin time.

    Lol, brilliant!

    I can see it happening as well. I am afraid of the cost Chia would pay. I hope the team keeps all the 2019 picks fwiw.

  137. OmJo says:

    Andy Dufresne: What if he wins another one before any of these other guys? You’d still take the championshipless GM’s?

    Yes. If McDavid wasn’t on this team Chiarelli would have been fired a long time ago. We’re entering the season as a cap-strapped lottery team, relying on a plethora of what-if’s and McDavid to make us a playoff contender

    Championship-calibre General Managers don’t overpay AND give NMCs to KHL goaltenders.

  138. OmJo says:

    PennersPancakes: The generosity of Pete strikes again, that man just gives and gives. I don’t understand his contract negotiations especially considering he used to be a player agent.

    Maybe it’s an inside job?

    Chiarelli overpays/compensates Oilers players so other agents can say “hey, look at what Chiarelli is doing on the Oilers – my client would like that” and boom! Agents around the league get a raise!

  139. Andy Dufresne says:

    PennersPancakes: The generosity of Pete strikes again, that man just gives and gives. I don’t understand his contract negotiations especially considering he used to be a player agent.

    Several teams interested….as many as 8 or 9…….doubt he was coming over on a one year deal without assurances he wouldnt get moved.

  140. GMB3 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – I wanted to follow-up from yesterdays thread, where I feel I was unfairly maligned, with non-truthful posters who personalized attacks and misrepresented.I love this blog and everything about it

    – I replied to Decidely Skeptical Fan and said: “– I really do get a kick out of the Caggs stuff: sure he’s not perfect, but you’d think from some of the comments he’s the reason why we stunk last year”

    – Wilde gets it going by saying “would just make their contention directly to the poster on the day of the posting.”I didnt’ get that as I did reply directly to a poster!I then provided about 10 negative comments which helped shape my view that Caggs is genrally misaligned.

    – A couple of reasonable retorts about Caggs, a few jabs: normal course.

    -Then WG says I used to rip on LT every post, I’m passive agressive, and of poor caracter, then lies and says LT confirmed that I used to rip on LT every post, and that my “Great post LT” was actually some stchick that was not genuine. LT knows how much I respect all he does.WG: your not being fair, and I don’t appreciate it.

    – I’m not going to go back and requote myself. My beliefs and biases on this team are well-noted

    – Back to Caggs, I’m entiltled to come to the conclusion that many over-exagerate his role in the team’s demise.He scored more goals than most, his possession numbers were not the worst on the team, and I don’t know who could have played up the line-up last year rather than him.

    – If Talbot made more saves, everyone would look better.If Caggs was replaced with another $900K player I’m sure some might be better slightly, some might be worse slightly.He’s not a difference maker (nor would his $1.5MM replacement unless you cherry-pick), and he’s being slotted on 3rd and 4rth lines this pre-season

    – If some don’t like the way I present my discussion points, I’m happy to look at that.But don’t lie and say I I generalize when I responded directly to a poster, and don’t make veiled allusions to who I am as a person based on my contributions.

    – Thanks for reading.I’ve never insulted anyone here: I don’t appreciate feeling that I was

    Why do you think that finding a better player than caggiula to take his role doesn’t improve our team?

  141. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Cool piece by Daniel Nugent-Bowman on Bouchard’s work with a figure skating coach for edge work:

    https://theathletic.com/554208/2018/09/28/evan-bouchard-enlists-former-figure-skater-to-help-improve-a-weakness-in-his-game/

    The technical stuff is cool, but the fact that Bouchard is very coachable and “knows what he doesn’t know” makes me even more excited for this player and his future with EDM.

  142. jp says:

    leadfarmer:
    –hudson–,

    The shocking thing is they expected more offense from Strome.Who the heck was scouting this guy

    They hadn’t seen him since jr. I thought that had been established.

  143. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne: First thanks for the updates…

    So this means Koskinen can be sent to the minors?

    Maybe – Koskinen has the NMC so he still needs to waive it to be assigned to the minors – while, if we take Chia at his word, in negotiations, Koskinen said he might but, at the end of the day, he got the clause so he has the last say and could just say no.

  144. Wilde says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – Wilde gets it going

    I did in fact feel bad about how many people piled on, just as I did when people starting piling on after I jabbed OP about the Brad Malone thing.

    However, the difference in that situation is that it’s not out of the realm of possibility that you individually pissed each one of those people off by using the methods I criticised yesterday.

    You did quote 10 people and exaggerate and twist what they said, after all.

    Sincerely: I do not support the dogpiling.

    But I am not personally responsible for it and it’s entirely possible there was prior provocation for at least some of the individuals who participated.

    Kinger_Oil.redux: ” I didnt’ get that as I did reply directly to a poster!

    Very clearly, I was saying this in regards to the part where you wrote “I wish the people who say X” or something like that. That statement and those surrounding were the very crux of my point and everyone who contributed to the discussion thereafter behaved as if they knew this, yourself included. You can’t just backtrack and pretend that I was talking about your specific response to the specific person, you knew that wasn’t it, everyone knew that wasn’t it, everyone understood on a basic level at the very least which part of your post I was referring to.

    edit: It was “from some of the comments here”. That was the phrasing.

    This was clear because the discussion continued to that end.

    But if you truly were only talking about the one person – in which case you were using ‘from some of the comments here’ to refer to only the one person? – then it’s still hyperbolising and butchering someone’s argument to try to make them look silly.

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – If some don’t like the way I present my discussion points, I’m happy to look at that.

    I will take you up on this:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: I’ve never insulted anyone here

    People can do insulting things without feeling that they’ve directly insulted people.

    For example, saying that I lied, as you did just now.

    Or, a few days ago when you said I was dumb for saying VOR’s experiment was dumb – when I gave it a ton of time and thought and said no such thing, while I also deliberately waited to voice my meta-opinion on the matter until after the exercise had run its course, so as to not taint the results with my criticism.

    I did this out of respect to VOR, and out of respect to his idea.

    (You said using the word ‘dumb’ was using ‘our language’, when I never said the word and you were lumping me in with someone else, not the first time you’ve done so and it’s evidenced every time you talk about ‘x people’.)

  145. hunter1909 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: The technical stuff is cool, but the fact that Bouchard is very coachable and “knows what he doesn’t know” makes me even more excited for this player and his future with EDM.

    By Christmas, Bouchard’s going to be an up and coming NHL star.

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne: Several teams interested….as many as 8 or 9…….doubt he was coming over on a one year deal without assurances he wouldnt get moved.

    The other option that Peter had…….. walk away. It was May and numerous goalies were going to come on the market, from established high end NHL back-ups to young up and coming goalies with success in the minors, etc.

    Anyways, go Koskinen!

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: They hadn’t seen him since jr. I thought that had been established.

    Factually incorrect.

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    One other thing Peter mentioned on the Gregor shows was the Jarabek “needs to be better”.

    I think Garrison might be signing a contract if he doesn’t regress over the last two games.

    Not sure how I feel about that. The waiver wire is still there…..

  149. Andy Dufresne says:

    €√¥£€^$,

    Thanks €√¥£€^$ 🙂

    Clearly you read for comprehension….a rare quality.

  150. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: The other option that Peter had…….. walk away. It was May and numerous goalies were going to come on the market, from established high end NHL back-ups to young up and coming goalies with success in the minors, etc.

    Anyways, go Koskinen!

    I get your point (you and I were both high on Halak if memory serves me)

    But Im just saying that if Im Koskinen Im not making a major life change without the assurance that a) you’ve done your homework, b) you see me as the right guy for the job, and c) you are willing to commit to a full year with the club.

    It’s what Id do…..so I believe / respect it when I see that Koskinen asked for and recevied a NMC

    The fact that he and Chia spoke/agreed that poor performance could lead to a demotion to AHL is very reasonable and reassuring to me. For me its evidence that Koskinen has confidence in his ability to do the job.

    On a seperate note,
    I was VERY happy to hear Koskinen post game saying ” it was his best performance so far…..but no where near what he is capable of”…..Music!

    The guy made a series of 4 or 5 saves in the third period that kept us in the game…..he deserved his third star.

  151. Wilde says:

    –hudson–,

    Thank you bunches for these always, Huds.

    Couple things –

    – a mention of “Nuge could play with Leon”

    – “we brought in Strome to fill the net”, this is a more candid version of what was said last year and although you could parse it then to come to the conclusion, I think this is the most literal we’ve seen this stated. Still confounding against the backdrop of his usage last year. With how quickly he went to and stayed on the 3rd line, you’d think that was at the very least plan A2, rather than them giving up on their initial idea that quickly and with that little sample.

    – Of the two mentioned, I would like to see Aberg get a shot on the top line over Rieder.

  152. Wilde says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Cool piece by Daniel Nugent-Bowman on Bouchard’s work with a figure skating coach for edge work:

    https://theathletic.com/554208/2018/09/28/evan-bouchard-enlists-former-figure-skater-to-help-improve-a-weakness-in-his-game/

    The technical stuff is cool, but the fact that Bouchard is very coachable and “knows what he doesn’t know” makes me even more excited for this player and his future with EDM.

    I came away from reading that this morning thinking about how small of a chance this guy isn’t a substantial player.

    His natural ability is so great, that any improvement anywhere else (skating, defensive reads – stops&intercepts) is closer to exponential in effect to his net contribution than additive.

    I talk about defensemen being thresholdy a lot, and this is a great case: At 18, if Evan Bouchard is replacement-level in his own zone without the puck, he’s a 3rd pairing NHL defenseman at worst. That’s nuts.

  153. deardylan says:

    If any of you feel your anger, defensiveness and blood pressure risng from a series of electronic sentences from strangers you have never met…i feel for ya and this quote from a hockey buddha popped up in my mind

    You can win every preseason game and be right in every argument…yet if you let others steal your peace of mind you will have a shitty faceoff percentage and never drink from the good lord stanley chalice.

    And if anyone pisses me off or complains about my autocorrected dyslexic phone i forgive you in advance

    And next time anyone complains about Lucic i will shout from mountaintops… pick on someone your own size. Unless he is your size. Didnt see many of his size at athletic talk… if you know what i mean. PS. Is OP that big?

  154. theboyfromsouthdetroit says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Read that too, and was encouraged, though I did notice this quote from the coach… “With Evan, it’s always going to be an ongoing process,” which wasn’t exactly a ringing endorsement.

    Really though, as long as he gets to NHL-adequate in the skating department, his passing and vision will do the rest. I don’t think anyone expects him to morph into Scott Neidermayer.

  155. pts2pndr says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    McLellan’s verbal yesterday stopped just short of stating that they are going to start with 8D if they have some kids on the team and I think its clear at least one (if not both) of Bear and Bouchard will be on the team.

    Given Kailer tailing off in preseason like he did last year and not showing great in the 2RW spot, with only 13F to start the season, he is likely on his way to Bakersfield on Saturday which is just fine.

    He was a 22nd overall pick that is just turning pro – some AHL time should be expected.

    As you Know OP I have been on the don’t rush Yamamoto but by what I have observed since this years main camp began is a much more defensively aware player. Kailer is no longer sacraficing defense for offense. He also appears more aware of where his team mates are on the ice. While he may not produce high offense right away I think he may be able to hold a second line wing position without being a neg on goals against. I am still not against him getting AHL time but I think he may be able to handle second line duty in the NHL.

  156. Matticus says:

    -4th line minutes for JP, why indeed, can someone explain this to me.He has been one arguably one of the best players this pre-season.
    – Also why would they not put him out there in OT, with that speed, and shot, has he ever even been on the ice for OT at all ever. I mean I think he’s deserved it, and this is pre-season let’s see what the kid can do out there. To make it worse they had Strome out there, I just dont get it.

  157. Pescador says:

    Andy Dufresne: aahhheeemmm…….you mean the cucumbers get to close to the donuts…..AMARIGHT!?!

    sadly for me, a gherkin is still a cucumber

  158. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: Factually incorrect.

    Absolutely. It wasn’t intended to be.

  159. hunter1909 says:

    Matticus:
    -4th line minutes for JP, why indeed, can someone explain this to me.He has been one arguably one of the best players this pre-season.
    – Also why would they not put him out there in OT, with that speed, and shot, has he ever even been on the ice for OT at all ever. I mean I think he’s deserved it, and this is pre-season let’s see what the kid can do out there. To make it worse they had Strome out there, I just dont get it.

    JP is taking his shot. Please step back off the ledge. JP looks great in preseason. Given his extreme youth, size, speed, and natural grit(ask Calgary they tried running him next to their own goal and fell over like a bunch of untied sticks).

    ps: too bad they just can’t offer this kid a 24 million contract spread over 8 years.

  160. GMB3 says:

    Wilde,

    Well said

  161. Darth Tu says:

    Oh boy, the comment stream on the blog today was fairly classic. Ranging from worries about Koskinen, panic on whether Rattie’s scoring can be replaced on the 1st line (who saw that coming when he was signed last year?), accusations of sexism, and my favourite – cooking advice and recipes.

    A fantastic comment section all round people, I’m sad I’ve only caught up with it now.

  162. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr: As you Know OP I have been on the don’t rush Yamamoto but by what I have observed since this years main camp began is a much more defensively aware player. Kailer is no longer sacraficing defense for offense. He also appears more aware of where his team mates are on the ice. While he may not produce high offense right away I think he may be able to hold a second line wing position without being a neg on goals against. I am still not against him getting AHL time but I think he may be able to handle second line dutyin the NHL.

    Sure, fair enough, however, at the same time, the team needs its second line wingers to contribute 2nd line offence, in particular if they are playing with an elite 2C like Leon – in my opinion.

    Sure, he may be able to not be a drag on goals against, however, to me, that is not what I want from our 2RW and that’s not a position I want to put this rookie pro player in when there is the option to develop in the AHL, be it, 20, 40 or 80 games.

    Not to mention, his contract would slide if he does play the entire season in the AHL (i.e. less than 10 in the NHL) – although I don’t imagine that happens.

  163. hunter1909 says:

    Darth Tu: A fantastic comment section all round people, I’m sad I’ve only caught up with it now.

    I can offer you a discount if you still want to argue.

  164. OriginalPouzar says:

    Rodrigue has stopped 15 of 16 in the dying minutes of an 11-1 blowout.

    Safin held off the scoresheet in a 4-2 Mooseheads win.

    Samorukov held pointless and was -1 in a 6-2 win

    Maksimov with an assist in a 3-1 Niagara win.

    McLeod with an assist in a 6-1 Mississauga win (O. Tippet with 3G/1A and 7 shots – wow)

  165. hunter1909 says:

    I just watched Rattie’s hat trick. Looks like a great idea to keep him where he is and manufacture a star sniper off McDavid. Because if that were to happen, wow. Just wow.

  166. Ryan says:

    jp: Absolutely. It wasn’t intended to be.

    Pretty sure it was a jab at the ol’ Bob Green Reinhart scouting report.

  167. Ryan says:

    hunter1909:
    I just watched Rattie’s hat trick. Looks like a great idea to keep him where he is and manufacture a star sniper off McDavid. Because if that were to happen, wow. Just wow.

    Rattie’s banged up sadly.

  168. Woogie63 says:

    For me coming into camp I thought a player needed to prove they could play 2RW, 2RHD and 2G.

    For me those positions are still holes.

    2RW – Yamamoto, he got 3 of 7 points in the first 2 games (didn’t play the third). As the competition and the ice time intensifies I am not sure he can play the board game this system requires. The last two games he has been easy to knock off the puck.

    2RHD – Benning has not grabbed this chance, he is the best 3RHD player. If we keep Bouchard/Bear will the team live with a 3RHD playing 2RHD?

    2G – Koskinen still makes me nervous every time the puck is shot at our net.

  169. hunter1909 says:

    Ryan: Rattie’s banged up sadly.

    Beware Oilers who score hat tricks in pre-season.

  170. Darth Tu says:

    hunter1909,

    Let’s start with full price arguments/debates tomorrow.

  171. deucalion says:

    hunter1909: I can offer you a discount if you still want to argue.

    Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes. (Credit to Monty Python)

  172. foster says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    OriginalPouzar,

    Yamamoto’s contract doesn’t slide under any circumstances.

  173. Gerta Rauss says:

    foster:

    Yamamoto’s contract doesn’t slide under any circumstances.

    I think it might

    https://oilersnation.com/2018/07/16/kailer-yamamoto-and-the-nhl-contract-slide-rule/

  174. Pescador says:

    hunter1909: Beware Oilers who score hat tricks in pre-season.

    what about Rat tricks?

  175. foster says:

    ON is wrong. He turns 20 this calendar year. Once a player is only eligible to play junior as an overager their contract runs.

  176. Gerta Rauss says:

    foster,

    I’ll defer to you here-I’m far too lazy to debate this point

    Capfriendly appears to be wrong then as well, they’ve got him listed as a slide candidate

  177. Craig Zonit says:

    Wilde:
    –hudson–,

    Thank you bunches for these always, Huds.

    –hudson–,

    Just want to reiterate this, thank you Hudson. Much appreciated by those of us reading along at work, etc.

  178. OriginalPouzar says:

    foster:
    OriginalPouzar,

    OriginalPouzar,

    Yamamoto’s contract doesn’t slide under any circumstances.

    Yes, it can.

    His “signing age” was 18 and the CBA provides the ability to slide twice.

    If he doesn’t play 10 NHL games this year, it slides for a second time, even if he’s pro in the AHL.

    ————————————-

    (d) (i) In the event that an 18 year old or 19 year old Player signs an SPC with a Club but does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the first season under that SPC, the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for a period of one (1) year, except that this automatic extension will not apply to a Player who is 19 according to Section 9.2 by virtue of turning 20 between September 16 and December 31 in the year in which he first signs an SPC. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player’s SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player’s Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances

    In the event that a Player signs his first SPC at age 18 and has had his SPC extended pursuant to Subsection (i), and such Player does not play at least ten (10) NHL Games in the second season under that SPC, then the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for one (1) additional year. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player’s SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this Subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 Salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player’s Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances

    9.2 Age of Players. As used in this Article, “age,” including “First SPC Signing Age,” means
    a Player’s age on September 15 of the calendar year in which he signs an SPC, regardless of his
    actual age on the date he signs such SPC.

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    foster:
    ON is wrong. He turns 20 this calendar year. Once a player is only eligible to play junior as an overager their contract runs.

    Sorry but you are the one that is wrong.

    See post above and the provisions of the CBA.

  180. Bruce McCurdy says:

    PennersPancakes: The generosity of Pete strikes again, that man just gives and gives. I don’t understand his contract negotiations especially considering he used to be a player agent.

    Maybe his experience as an agent makes him more sensitive to the player’s viewpoint. Koskinen had a cherry job in KHL, to entice him away the player wanted some guarantees.

    The assumption that the GM gives away NMCs for no reason or that it automatically represents a “loss” is flawed to say the least.

    I for one will wait to see how Koskinen plays before declaring winners & losers.

  181. OriginalPouzar says:

    I know that Godot, any maybe some others, are super excited to see Rieder get a shot at 1RW but, the more I think about this, the more I just don’t think it will work and really hope that Rattie is available for game 1.

    I think the premise that some have for Rieder as 1RW is that he is fast and can almost “keep up” with McDavid. Fair enough, however, being fast enough to “keep up” is not what provides success on McDavid’s wing. Maroon couldn’t “keep up” with McDavid but what he was able to do was use good hockey IQ and offensive intelligence to be at the right place at the right time, to time his entry in to scoring areas. That is what a guy like Rattie is able to do. He thinks the offensive game well and is able to find open ice in scoring areas at the right time and that is much more effective with a guy like McDavid than being fast and darting around at 100 mph trying to skate with McDavid.

    Being behind the play a bit and showing up at the right time is more effective offensively.

    Come on Rattie, get healthy.

    Can’t believe I’m thinking that Rattie is a material player for game 1 but his presence allows others to be slotted properly. If he can’t start the season then I think Yamamoto is the better option than Rieder due to offensive hockey IQ.

  182. hunter1909 says:

    Is there anything hotter than meeting a new girlfriend?

  183. defmn says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Maybe his experience as an agent makes him more sensitive to the player’s viewpoint. Koskinen had a cherry job in KHL, to entice him away the player wanted some guarantees.

    The assumption that the GM gives away NMCs for no reason or that it automatically represents a “loss” is flawed to say the least.

    I for one will wait to see how Koskinen plays before declaring winners & losers.

    Have to agree with this because I also think this is a narrative that somehow became a fact without much reflection.

    If a mistake has been made the mistake will be in which free agent he chose. How much he had to pay is what he had to pay given that he had no leverage in the negotiation other than to outbid other suitors.

    A case can be made that desperation forced his bid higher because Montoya failed to convince with his performance at the end of last season and that can be judged a mistake. Giving Broissot the job to start last season was the mistake that eventually led to this place.

    But the buyer sets the price. If you don’t need it right away you have a better chance of getting it cheaper. When you need it now you pay what you have to.

  184. deardylan says:

    hunter1909,

    I really like the amusing version of Hunter lately. More of this you please!

  185. deardylan says:

    stephen sheps:
    Melvis,
    Kinger_Oil.redux,
    Let me know when this is happening. I’d like to get in on this action since I’m here and all.
    We ought to probably include deardylan as well since he’s great people. Hopefully we can even catch a game together, but just hanging out in real life would be fantastic.

    I’m in Sheps. By the way what music event was so fantastic that you had to skip Athletic event? Let us know details so we can keepup with modern musicology.

    PS. I got invited to Just For Laughs tonight (Joe Rogan or Reggie Watts – any of you know anything about these two guys?) although lately the Hunter/Melvis routine is hard to beat.

  186. russ99 says:

    Defense is a 5 man concept. We haven’t seen a full group of forwards engaged on defense since the SCF team against Carolina.

    Should be better this year with the additions of Rieder, Brodziak and Chaisson but the kids and skill guys have to come back and do their job and get in better position to receive exit passes, not just jet down the ice and expect the puck to get to their sticks.

    Sounds like Koskinen got an NMC. That’s indefensible, especially on a one year contract. Our front office win the Old Boy scouts and player development staff, and Chia handing out raises to underperforming RFAs, one way contracts to bit players, and NMCs like candy isn’t helping.

    Win or lose, it’s becoming evident that Katz/Nicholson need to clean house entirely and start fresh, and not with Wayne, Mess or any other former Oilers.

    Said this a few years ago and it’s still true today: Mr. Katz, do you want your heroes/drinking buddies around or do you want to win?

  187. russ99 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I know that Godot, any maybe some others, are super excited to see Rieder get a shot at 1RW but, the more I think about this, the more I just don’t think it will work and really hope that Rattie is available for game 1.

    I think the premise that some have for Rieder as 1RW is that he is fast and can almost “keep up” with McDavid.Fair enough, however, being fast enough to “keep up” is not what provides success on McDavid’s wing. Maroon couldn’t “keep up” with McDavid but what he was able to do was use good hockey IQ and offensive intelligence to be at the right place at the right time, to time his entry in to scoring areas. That is what a guy like Rattie is able to do.He thinks the offensive game well and is able to find open ice in scoring areas at the right time and that is much more effective with a guy like McDavid than being fast and darting around at 100 mph trying to skate with McDavid.

    Being behind the play a bit and showing up at the right time is more effective offensively.

    Come on Rattie, get healthy.

    Can’t believe I’m thinking that Rattie is a material player for game 1 but his presence allows others to be slotted properly.If he can’t start the season then I think Yamamoto is the better option than Rieder due to offensive hockey IQ.

    The rush chance only matters for the first shot and maybe a rebound if players are in the right places. Then the opposition defense settles into the zone and space closes up and there are battles to keep the puck.

    Maroon was successful in this second phase of the offensive zone sortie. “Keeping up with McDavid” only matters for the first phase.

    If we’re building a team to only score on first shots and quick rebounds and can’t keep the puck, move it around, retain it under pressure and get good shots on the cycle, we’re not gonna score a lot of goals. This goes for the power play too.

  188. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I know that Godot, any maybe some others, are super excited to see Rieder get a shot at 1RW but, the more I think about this, the more I just don’t think it will work and really hope that Rattie is available for game 1.

    I think the premise that some have for Rieder as 1RW is that he is fast and can almost “keep up” with McDavid.Fair enough, however, being fast enough to “keep up” is not what provides success on McDavid’s wing. Maroon couldn’t “keep up” with McDavid but what he was able to do was use good hockey IQ and offensive intelligence to be at the right place at the right time, to time his entry in to scoring areas. That is what a guy like Rattie is able to do.He thinks the offensive game well and is able to find open ice in scoring areas at the right time and that is much more effective with a guy like McDavid than being fast and darting around at 100 mph trying to skate with McDavid.

    Being behind the play a bit and showing up at the right time is more effective offensively.

    Come on Rattie, get healthy.

    Can’t believe I’m thinking that Rattie is a material player for game 1 but his presence allows others to be slotted properly.If he can’t start the season then I think Yamamoto is the better option than Rieder due to offensive hockey IQ.

    My argument for Rieder is not “keeping up”…it is being a player with the ability to play in his own end, and like with Kurri and Tikkanen, Nugent-Hopkins and Rieder will be able to compensate for McDavid’s defensive zone playe, which still needs improvement.

  189. Wilde says:

    russ99: The rush chance only matters for the first shot and maybe a rebound if players are in the right places.Then the opposition defense settles into the zone and space closes up and there are battles to keep the puck.

    Maroon was successful in this second phase of the offensive zone sortie. “Keeping up with McDavid” only matters for the first phase.

    If we’re building a team to only score on first shots and quick rebounds and can’t keep the puck, move it around, retain it under pressure and get good shots on the cycle, we’re not gonna score a lot of goals. This goes for the power play too.

    Most goals are scored off of the rush or at the very least within the first 15 seconds of a zone entry.

  190. godot10 says:

    hunter1909:
    Is there anything hotter than meeting a new girlfriend?

    That is just chemicals being activated in your brain. That is all it is. Chemicals that induce a state of compromised sanity and the ability to delude onself.

  191. rickithebear says:

    Clarkenstein:
    If this team is “undone” early in the season it will be the D that will be the “undoing.” Still way too much chaos in the Oil end night after night. The numbers aren’t lying.

    DZ Chaos; def: Rovers Waldoing

  192. Dustylegnd says:

    Rondo,

    Can’t you see the implicit connection in your statement????…….

    Lucic is the opposite of Magic Johnson…he makes everyone around him worse….Reminds me of Kareems take on life with Walton and Linear in Airplane

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArHNrCvwq4c

    Lucic is a vampire, with a massively inflated opinion of himself and the role he played in Boston….

    Boston’s coaching staff knew he was not even close to being a driver…he was a passenger on a very very talented line…..

    Boston traded Lucic at the perfect time…..Chia was clearly on a different page than the Boston coaching staff….the coaches did not consider Lucic even close to being a key part of that team

    Don Sweeny clearly saw Lucic differently than Chia and was able to pull in a 1st round pick…well done

    Give Leon a great player on the wing and he will crack 80 points…somebody like ….ummmm…I don’t know….a guy who can really skate and gain the offensive zone….then name escapes me

  193. CallighenMan says:

    jp,

    No, you’re misremembering what was said about Reinhart.

    Edit – late to the party on this one, sorry!

  194. Genjutsu says:

    You’re describing every human experience ever.

    Doors of perception right?

    godot10: That is just chemicals being activated in your brain.That is all it is.Chemicals that induce a state of compromised sanity and the ability to delude onself.

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