Game Five 2018-19: Bruins at Oilers

by Lowetide

Bruins games on television 1968-75 were magic. They put a man on the moon in 1969, but Bobby Orr gifted Boston with the Stanley in 1970. No one really knows the bigger feat, but we all have our opinions. I knew the lineup backwards, but sometimes there would be a recall that didn’t get announced and it meant trying to find names like Bill Speer at quiet moments in the game. I never missed a chance to see Bobby Orr play for the Bruins, and incredibly, my Dad would hang around for those games even when he “had work to do.” Maybe that’s another reason why they were magic.

THE ATHLETIC

The Athletic Edmonton is going to bring it all season long. Proud to be part of a lineup that is ready to cover the coming year. Outstanding coverage from a large group, including Daniel Nugent-Bowman and Jonathan Willis, Lowetide, Minnia Feng and Pat McLean. If you haven’t subscribed yet, now’s your chance. Special offer is here, less than $3 a month!

  • New Lowetide: Peter Chiarelli’s race against time
  • Eric Duhatschek: Oilers finally getting a goal without Connor McDavid’s help and Edmonton captain couldn’t be happier.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Grant Fuhr talks about his journey, drug use and the state of goaltending.
  • Lowetide: Math offers a surprising option for Leon Draisaitl’s struggling No. 2 line
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Patience preached as Jesse Puljujarvi attempts to carve out his spot in the Oilers lineup.
  • Corey Pronman: Around the farm. Prospects having early success (Oilers item).
  • Lowetide: College and AHL prospect update.
  • Lowetide: Panic storm on the horizon as Oilers remain a one-man show
  • Justin Bourne: How hockey has changed for the better and allowed its young stars to shine.
  • Lowetide: Joel Persson’s early season performance in the SHL.
  • Lowetide: Practice lines in Boston, anger in Edmonton and Kailer Yamamoto remains on the No. 2 line.
  • Jonathan Willis: At 34, is Kyle Brodziak just too old to help the Oilers?
  • Jonathan Willis: Why Todd McLellan’s name keeps showing up on those ‘first coach fired in 2018-19’ lists

OILERS IN OCTOBER

  • Oilers in October 2015: 1-4-0, goal differential -5
  • Oilers in October 2016: 4-1-0, goal differential +4
  • Oilers in October 2017: 1-4-0, goal differential -8
  • Oilers in October 2018: 2-2-0, goal differential -4

The victory in Winnipeg was something that can’t really be anticipated (Edmonton was not the favourite) and the game against Boston has a preamble that is much the same. The odds of the Oilers winning tonight is about the same as Calgary grabbing two points last night—gird your loins accordingly.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM OCTOBER

  • On the road to: Sweden to play NJD (Expected: 0-0-1) (Actual: 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Boston, NYR, Winnipeg (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • At home to: Boston, Nashville, Pittsburgh, Washington (Expected 1-3-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Chicago (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 3-6-2, 8 points in 11 games 
  • Current results: 2-2-0, 4 points after four games

As you can see, my expectations of the homestand are humble. Edmonton won in Winnipeg and that’s nice, maybe even revealing. The dice have no memory and the Bruins are coming for your heart. If the Oilers win tonight, Cam Talbot takes first star—unless McDavid rolls a trey.

OILERS EVEN-STRENGTH SCORING

  1. Connor McDavid 5.73 (NHL No. 9)
  2. Leon Draisaitl 3.90
  3. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 3.39
  4. Ty Rattie 1.88
  5. Darnell Nurse 1.84
  6. Milan Lucic 1.74
  7. Jesse Puljujarvi 1.17
  8. Oscar Klefbom 0.66

As each game goes by we get a better view of the roster offensively. All numbers via NaturalStatTrick.

I projected a 50-70-120 season for McDavid in my RE series, and expected some negative feedback. I got it, but the complaints were that my prediction was too low. Young 97 is changing the way we think about the game, every single day.

There’s a chance Caggiula doesn’t play tonight, this forward group is quite popular online. Much of the attention surrounds Jesse Puljujarvi moving to the Draisaitl line and that’s fabulous. However, McLellan’s willingness to also move Milan Lucic down may be a key for the No. 2 line. It’s my belief that it will help Leon. If this solves everything, then the next move is Jujhar Khaira to No. 4 center, with the others fighting for fourth-line winger jobs.

CORSI FOR 5-ON-5 (FORWARDS)

  1. Ryan Strome 62.50
  2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 55.75
  3. Jesse Puljujarvi 54.55
  4. Drake Caggiula 52.73
  5. Connor McDavid 51.61
  6. Ty Rattie 50.89
  7. Tobias Rieder 50.82
  8. Jujhar Khaira 49.02
  9. Kailer Yamamoto 47.30
  10. Leon Draisaitl 44.09
  11. Milan Lucic 41.67
  12. Kyle Brodziak 40.00
  13. Zack Kassian 28.57

Small sample size alert! There are some encouraging numbers here. Ryan Strome, he of the quiet offense, is part of a trio who have the puck moving in the right direction often. In over 45 minutes at 5-on-5, his line has given up just one goal. That’s good. What’s bad? No goals from the group. Drake Caggiula is in much the same boat. Zack Kassian, Kyle Brodziak, Milan Lucic and Leon Draisaitl are players math identifies as being a concern. LD’s numbers are a big worry, the expectation is for him to be a net positive in all metrics, especially 5-on-5 goal differential. He is currently 1-4 5-on-5 GF-GA. The lineup shuffle is timely.

WAIVERS

Jake Dotchin is on waivers today, he had a strange training camp in Tampa Bay and is now signed on the other coast with Anaheim. His possession and goal differential numbers have always been good, the quick exit from the Lightning being the only real concern. Edmonton’s RHD currently are Adam Larsson, Kris Russell (who is a lefty) and Matt Benning/Evan Bouchard. Is Dotchin an upgrade? If he’s at previous NHL levels, the answer may well be yes. Will the Oilers grab him? I don’t think they will.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning on the show, TSN1260 beginning at 10. We’ll talk baseball, hockey and more. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jeff Krushell, Krush Performance. The Boston Red Sox are openly trying to give their fans heart attacks. We’ll talk about closers who fill emergency rooms, from Don Stanhouse to Mitch Williams.
  • Matt Porter, Boston Globe. The Bruins lost in Calgary last night, a lot of things the club does well didn’t come west. We’ll chat about the team.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman, The Athletic. Daniel’s recent articles on Jesse Puljujarvi and Grant Fuhr will be discussed, we’ll also have a conversation about Todd McLellan’s media avails.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

 

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London Jon

Richard Roma: Don’t get too excited.

We squeezed out a win in loser time against a team in a b2b.

To my eye, the breakouts though were not terrible.

I wouldn’t call OT loser time when the teams share 3 points. Particularly when (I think) we have an amazing OT record since year 1AD

If a team went to OT every night and went 50/50 they’d have 123 points…

godot10

VOR: I actually think that Woodguy is right. SportLogIQ is the best available data at this time. But it highlights a problem Georgesx pointed out in a much broader context. It is non-transparent and the minute we move out of things that a reasonably smart person can test using Excel and MatLab software the proponent of the new idea is basically saying “trust me”.

This becomes a worse problem when the work is being done in a proprietary environment. And then in this particular case there is what the company calls both a Machine Intelligence and an AI. If it has learning functions built in then even the original programmer – and it was more likely a team – can’t be certain what it is doing today. Not transparent even to the programmer. Then because the algorithms are not public we can’t vet them for bias. Lastly, they aren’t saying how much human support their system gets.

Not slagging what is a great company with leading edge innovation and fascinating data just saying it is an example of the non-transparency problem. Nor am I in any position to cast stones. But the future of hockey analytics is going to come down to a whole lot of “trust me”.

The NHL would be best served to make its tracking data public when it becomes available, and let the public have at it.

godot10

OriginalPouzar:
I assume we’ll see Yamamoto at 1RW next game?

While I really like Yamamoto with Lucic and Strome, and frankly he played his best hockey on the 3rd line in exhibition as well, what are the other options?I don’t think Jesse is ready for that type of ice time yet as he’s all over the place and i’d like to get him used to playing with Leon.

Drake and Rieder are not first line options.

So, Yamamoto at 1RW and Chiasson at 3RW or, if Drake can go, Drake at 3RW and Chiasson at 4LW.

You can have my lines from the summer.

Nugent-Hopkins, McDavid, Rieder
Khaira, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi
Lucic, Strome, Yamamoto

I was sort of amused to see them for awhile yesterday.

godot10

Chelios is a Dinosaur:
With respect to 97s assist to RNH, in the celebration I thought I was reading Klefbom’s lips where he says “I didn’t think that would work!” Watch again if you can, I’m 85% sure thats what hes saying to McDavid – not conclusive evidence that the pass was intentional, but something.

Also, I like the Walterdale Bridge entry. Bridges are good metaphors, and it shows a shift in the identity of the city from the derrick: Younger, more urban, inclusive. I am not anti-industry but I do appreciate a move away from such hard identification with extractive imagery. And its a relatively nice bridge. Before anyone says “Its just a bridge don’t be such a commie”, not its not. Shut up.

The world starves to death without the extractive industries. You are living in a mud hut without the extractive industries. Energy is civilization. The financialization of energy is that last step irreversibly towards plutocratic neofeudalism.

Liberty only really arose out of energy abundance.

JAG-041

Agreed about Klefbom looking really good.
He defended a few sorties with aplomb.
Nurse is looking very consistent as well.
It feels to me, like the 16-17 team, that a few stolen wins from McDavid and solid performances from Talbot that their confidence will be higher and they’ll genuinely believe in their ability to win and play with more heart

In another unrelated matter, LT, do you have a regular posting schedule still?
I’m having trouble determining when new posts will come up.
Enjoy reading in the morning at work or when I have a second of down time.
Still my favourite blog!
Probably have read every post for the last ten years.

VOR

Ribs:
Just catching up with the SportLogIQ and Oilers analytics discussion. Thanks for some fascinating insights, guys! You answered or partially answered a lot of the questions I had about both of those things.

I think I was assuming that SportLogIQ’s data was thoroughly tested and was known to be the goods. It sounds like there is some skepticism out there concerning their results. I can see why the chip tracking would be the way to go if the software isn’t pumping out accurate enough data.

I actually think that Woodguy is right. SportLogIQ is the best available data at this time. But it highlights a problem Georgesx pointed out in a much broader context. It is non-transparent and the minute we move out of things that a reasonably smart person can test using Excel and MatLab software the proponent of the new idea is basically saying “trust me”.

This becomes a worse problem when the work is being done in a proprietary environment. And then in this particular case there is what the company calls both a Machine Intelligence and an AI. If it has learning functions built in then even the original programmer – and it was more likely a team – can’t be certain what it is doing today. Not transparent even to the programmer. Then because the algorithms are not public we can’t vet them for bias. Lastly, they aren’t saying how much human support their system gets.

Not slagging what is a great company with leading edge innovation and fascinating data just saying it is an example of the non-transparency problem. Nor am I in any position to cast stones. But the future of hockey analytics is going to come down to a whole lot of “trust me”.

OriginalPouzar

maudite:
away team on back to back games with back up goalie in.

“Back up goalie” by name only – Halak has, by far, been the better Bruin goalie. He let in exactly zero goals that he should have stopped.

Will we get extra points when we win with Koskinen in the net?

Did we get extra points for winning in Winnipeg where the Jets hadn’t lost in like 10 or 11 games?

OriginalPouzar

GMB3: Guess what? No one asked you to apologize.

So adversarial first thing in the morning.

“We are the worst team in the league without McDavid”

“We only win if Talbot steals it or McDavid wills it”

Guess what? McDavid and Talbot are on the team, members of the Edmonton Oilers.

When they contribute to the victory, they contribute to the team win.

Abbeef

maudite:
away team on back to back games with back up goalie in.

I don’t think backup goalie is a legitimate excuse right now for Boston as Halak has been significantly better than Raanta so far.

maudite

away team on back to back games with back up goalie in.

GMB3

OriginalPouzar: Absolutely, for much of the game the Bruins had the edge in play.There were also some portions where the Oilers had the edge in play.This game was somewhat back and forth.

Its always interesting to me when its professed that they won the game because of Talbot or because of McDavid or Talbot and McDavid.

Guess what?Talbot and McDavid are members of the Edmonton Oilers – they are parts of the team and I will not apologize or look at a win as a “lesser win” because they played important roles.

Guess what? No one asked you to apologize.

OriginalPouzar

GMB3: The Oilers may have dominated OT, but that was 37 seconds of play, with McDavid out there.I don’t think there is a person in the world who doesn’t think a McDavid lead line will dominate play.

We certainly did not dominate the game, and I would hardly call it a definitive win. Talbot saved their bacon in the first, and made some really good saves on same grade A chances.

Absolutely, for much of the game the Bruins had the edge in play. There were also some portions where the Oilers had the edge in play. This game was somewhat back and forth.

Its always interesting to me when its professed that they won the game because of Talbot or because of McDavid or Talbot and McDavid.

Guess what? Talbot and McDavid are members of the Edmonton Oilers – they are parts of the team and I will not apologize or look at a win as a “lesser win” because they played important roles.

OriginalPouzar

Bank Shot:

Fans like to point at Todd as the problem, but I highly doubt he’s telling Jujhar Khaira to make a no look between the legs deflection pass at his own blueline….which led to the first goal against.

My goodness that was a weak play by Khaira, in particular since the boys were getting pressed and were tired and in need of a line change.

OriginalPouzar

I assume we’ll see Yamamoto at 1RW next game?

While I really like Yamamoto with Lucic and Strome, and frankly he played his best hockey on the 3rd line in exhibition as well, what are the other options? I don’t think Jesse is ready for that type of ice time yet as he’s all over the place and i’d like to get him used to playing with Leon.

Drake and Rieder are not first line options.

So, Yamamoto at 1RW and Chiasson at 3RW or, if Drake can go, Drake at 3RW and Chiasson at 4LW.

OriginalPouzar

So, Rattie and Benning are both doubtful for Saturday.

We can only call up a player or players if one (or both) go on IR.

If we are going to call up a player or players I really hope they keep the rookie forwards (Marody and Benson) in Bakersfield and the young pro D (Bear and Jones) in Bakersfield.

Even before the Benning injury, I thought Gravel should be called up. Yes, I know, we all want to see Bear, however, Gravel has shown to be a serviceable 3rd pairing d-man in the NHL and this is what he was signed for. Both Bear and Jones would benefit from a nice stretch of AHL games where they play big minutes in all situations. Besides, with Russell doing yeoman’s work at 2RD, we actually need a 3LD and Gravel is that guy.

With the forwards, Benson and Marody are playing well but neither are ready for the NHL. I don’t think Brad Malone is an NHL player but he can come up and sit in the pressbox for Saturday.

The Condors play on Sat and then not until next Sat so, if they want to call up Marody or Benson after the NSH game to sit in the press box, practice with the NHL team and make a bigger pay cheque for a week, that’s cool but they shouldn’t be playing any NHL games at this point.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

JimmyV1965,

You could be right!

JimmyV1965

Chelios is a Dinosaur:
With respect to 97s assist to RNH, in the celebration I thought I was reading Klefbom’s lips where he says “I didn’t think that would work!” Watch again if you can, I’m 85% sure thats what hes saying to McDavid – not conclusive evidence that the pass was intentional, but something.

Also, I like the Walterdale Bridge entry. Bridges are good metaphors, and it shows a shift in the identity of the city from the derrick: Younger, more urban, inclusive. I am not anti-industry but I do appreciate a move away from such hard identification with extractive imagery. And its a relatively nice bridge. Before anyone says “Its just a bridge don’t be such a commie”, not its not. Shut up.

I rewatched it dozens of times but I suck at lip reading. Klef clearly shrugs his shoulders, something you might do to signify; “there you go I was wrong about that.” Then I think he says “that won’t work.” I could be a thousand miles off about the whole thing because you put the words in my head and I was looking for that.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

With respect to 97s assist to RNH, in the celebration I thought I was reading Klefbom’s lips where he says “I didn’t think that would work!” Watch again if you can, I’m 85% sure thats what hes saying to McDavid – not conclusive evidence that the pass was intentional, but something.

Also, I like the Walterdale Bridge entry. Bridges are good metaphors, and it shows a shift in the identity of the city from the derrick: Younger, more urban, inclusive. I am not anti-industry but I do appreciate a move away from such hard identification with extractive imagery. And its a relatively nice bridge. Before anyone says “Its just a bridge don’t be such a commie”, not its not. Shut up.

who

Badly outplayed in the 1st period. Fairly even game after that but the Oilers were hanging on at the end. Thought they were better against Winnipeg.
This team needs another dman or they are going to run the top 4 into the ground. Lot of posters impressed with Bouchards game tonight. I don’t see it.
Yes, he makes a good outlet pass. But it doesn’t really matter if you never win a puck battle or race to the puck. If he can’t move or react any faster in the dzone then we should have picked Dobson.
I hope he is just adjusting to the speed of the game and will soon realize he can’t play at the pace he did in junior. There is a fine line between playing with poise and lackadaisical play and he is on the wrong side of that line too many times.

Ribs

–hudson–: Did Brodziak get another shift after his giveaway before the Krejci goal? It’s a bad mistake and they have to let him find his game soon.

He got one shift in the third after that.

Ribs

What is the deal with the three stars of the game? The website lists different players than we saw on TV. Is this a thing? Are they normally different? I mean, who cares, but it is strange nonetheless.

https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/bos-vs-edm/2018/10/18/2018020096#game=2018020096,game_state=final

Ribs

Just catching up with the SportLogIQ and Oilers analytics discussion. Thanks for some fascinating insights, guys! You answered or partially answered a lot of the questions I had about both of those things.

I think I was assuming that SportLogIQ’s data was thoroughly tested and was known to be the goods. It sounds like there is some skepticism out there concerning their results. I can see why the chip tracking would be the way to go if the software isn’t pumping out accurate enough data.

Rake 2.0

Klefbom was quietly very good tonight.

Abbeef

Also thought this was Bouchard’s best game so far and Larsson was solid.

Abbeef

My game observations

93-97-8/others – Looked good most of the game not as dominant as they have been before.

22-29-98 – Looked better than the previous 2nd line but still didn’t generate much. I’d like to keep 29 and 98 together, and revisit Caggiula on that line, as he had been bringing a lot of energy thus far.

27-18-56 – Thought they played very well. Strome had some chances, Lucic is effective when playing physical and is suited to a 3rd line role. Yamo had moments good and bad; he was completely out muscled and rode from center to the boards in the first. Then obviously his goal was a huge plus. I still would send him down.

16-51 (can’t remember current #)-44 – Kassian was more physically involved today and good on the PK. I didn’t notice Khaira and didn’t notice Brodziak other than a couple mistakes.

Nurse and Klefbom were good tonight. Nurse is becoming a horse. Russell had a few good pinches that kept O zone time going. Is the Benning injury a blessing in disguise? Obviously I don’t wish an injury on anyone but it might force a Gravel call up which i predict would be an upgrade.

5L PP is looking good. I love that RNH is the setup man on the left wall allowing McDavid to shoot more.

PK was strong
Talbot looked like 16-17 Talbot!

Bank Shot

Scungilli Slushy: True, though I was speaking in a general sense. The plays that are hard to tell what he intended will keep mounting.

I was always amazed like everyone Gretzky seemingly blind passing to players, on the tape. Now I think he used the glass – learned how to see the reflection of where others were which isn’t easy – but still he could get the puck where it had to go time and again.

Part is the exceptional skill and part is having the confidence to try things most wouldn’t. It helps when you can actually pull crazy things off, and your obvious genius means no repercussions when it doesn’t work.

Well I believe that sometimes he would have planned these moments of genius. I will probably miss out on most of these magic moments though, as I’m a skeptic by nature and need to see proof. 🙂

I’ll just be happy about him putting up major points, and did anyone notice that Connor is well over 50% in faceoffs to start the year?

Almost 55%. I’ll take that to the bank.

JimmyV1965

Bank Shot: Come on. There is no way McDavid planned that puck to bank onto RNH’s stick.

You have the puck as much as Connor you will get some breaks from time to time.

It’s interesting you say that. I would think the play tonight is more likely to be on purpose than the fan shot the other night. And is it possible this is something they actually practice? I mean they’re in the rink all the time. I’m not saying it’s on purpose but they are very lively boards.

Scungilli Slushy

Bank Shot: Come on. There is no way McDavid planned that puck to bank onto RNH’s stick.

You have the puck as much as Connor you will get some breaks from time to time.

True, though I was speaking in a general sense. The plays that are hard to tell what he intended will keep mounting.

I was always amazed like everyone Gretzky seemingly blind passing to players, on the tape. Now I think he used the glass – learned how to see the reflection of where others were which isn’t easy – but still he could get the puck where it had to go time and again.

Part is the exceptional skill and part is having the confidence to try things most wouldn’t. It helps when you can actually pull crazy things off, and your obvious genius means no repercussions when it doesn’t work.

Professor Q

CrazyCoach: I heard that way back when the old Olympia was still open, Gordie Howe and Ted Lindsay experimented with shooting pucks off the dashers and when they found the right one, they grabbed some paint and made a mark where they could shoot in a dump in and have it bounce to the winger streaking up the opposite side.

Different times of course seeing wingers went up and down their wing like they were on a rail, but players have used that move before even Connor’s dad was born.

Those crazy Red Wings. Lidstrom and Rafalski did this also, and specifically for setting up Holmstrom et al. in the slot or in front of the net.

Side

GMB3,

From the get go, I wasn’t saying the whole game was a definitive win for the Oilers. Really, I don’t care if the Oilers played poorly in the first half.. they came alive in the 2nd half, and then dominated the OT.

Happier that the Oilers have 2 points instead of a “morale win” that the Bruins have.

CrazyCoach

Bank Shot: Come on. There is no way McDavid planned that puck to bank onto RNH’s stick.

You have the puck as much as Connor you will get some breaks from time to time.

I heard that way back when the old Olympia was still open, Gordie Howe and Ted Lindsay experimented with shooting pucks off the dashers and when they found the right one, they grabbed some paint and made a mark where they could shoot in a dump in and have it bounce to the winger streaking up the opposite side.

Different times of course seeing wingers went up and down their wing like they were on a rail, but players have used that move before even Connor’s dad was born.

GMB3

Bank Shot,

I share this sentiment

Side

Bank Shot: Good teams find a way to win some games they shouldn’t, but so do bad teams.

We don’t really know which one the Oilers are going to be yet. I will say despite their winning record, they aren’t inspiring me.

Yeah, they are playing good teams, but they are generally getting outplayed by good teams every game.

I’ll feel better about this year’s Oilers if they start to carry the play a little more.

The Oilers are also coming off a rough travel schedule, where today was their 5th game compared to the Bruins 7th.

The Oilers, imo, looked to improve each game up until this point. Maybe they will look even better when they catch up in games to other teams. At this early in the season, teams are still finding their place anyway.

If it’s game 20 and the Oilers are still playing this way, then I will be worried.

GMB3

Side: When other teams have goalies that carry their team to victory against the Oilers, we watch in envy, cursing the hockey gods while giving the victorius team kudos. When Talbot carries our team to victory, we complain that the Oilers aren’t good enough.

A win is a win.

I doubt the Bruins are looking at tonight as a “morale win” that Oilers fans seem to enjoy so much.

Not sure what that has to do with it not being remotely close to a ‘definitive’ victory, but I do agree. There were positives in this game as well. Still think they were lucky to win it though.

GMB3

If the McDavid pp assist was a set play, Gulutzan deserves some serious credit for encouraging and/or drawing up that play.

Side

GMB3: The Oilers may have dominated OT, but that was 37 seconds of play, with McDavid out there.I don’t think there is a person in the world who doesn’t think a McDavid lead line will dominate play.

We certainly did not dominate the game, and I would hardly call it a definitive win. Talbot saved their bacon in the first, and made some really good saves on same grade A chances.

When other teams have goalies that carry their team to victory against the Oilers, we watch in envy, cursing the hockey gods while giving the victorius team kudos. When Talbot carries our team to victory, we complain that the Oilers aren’t good enough.

A win is a win.

I doubt the Bruins are looking at tonight as a “morale win” that Oilers fans seem to enjoy so much.

Bank Shot

Side: There were quite a few games last season where the Oilers thoroughly outplayed their opponent but lost to some bullshit, though.

It happens to every team. Except good teams find a way to win the games they shouldn’t, and that’s the difference maker.

The Oilers so far have also had a brutal schedule against good teams and are coming off a confidence shaking season and likely a tense environment around the team.

Good teams find a way to win some games they shouldn’t, but so do bad teams.

We don’t really know which one the Oilers are going to be yet. I will say despite their winning record, they aren’t inspiring me.

Yeah, they are playing good teams, but they are generally getting outplayed by good teams every game.

I’ll feel better about this year’s Oilers if they start to carry the play a little more.

Bank Shot

Scungilli Slushy: They call that generational play. He’ll never take credit.

Come on. There is no way McDavid planned that puck to bank onto RNH’s stick.

You have the puck as much as Connor you will get some breaks from time to time.

Side

Bank Shot:
I like how the Oilers battled back tonight, but man they really didn’t do anything of note in the first period at all.

They are five games into the season, and I can’t point at any game so far as one that the Oilers carried the play in. I would say they were luckier than the Bruins tonight and that game could have easily tilted if the Bruins got some breaks around the net.

That goal mouth stuff on Marchand? by Nurse…That was a blessing. There seemed to be 3-4 more of those for the Bruins as well.

Fans like to point at Todd as the problem, but I highly doubt he’s telling Jujhar Khaira to make a no look between the legs deflection pass at his own blueline….which lead to the first goal against.

You won’t convince me that Todd wrote that one up in the playbook.

At the moment, it just looks like a few too many players, just a little bit out of their depth.

Hopefully its a confidence thing and they can turn it on at some point.

Right now it seems like McDavid can make up for almost anything, so this team has a shot even if the warts remain.

There were quite a few games last season where the Oilers thoroughly outplayed their opponent but lost to some bullshit, though.

It happens to every team. Except good teams find a way to win the games they shouldn’t, and that’s the difference maker.

The Oilers so far have also had a brutal schedule against good teams and are coming off a confidence shaking season and likely a tense environment around the team.

I’m just hoping they can build confidence off this next string of games against really good teams. I don’t care what their record is after these games against the Caps, Pens and Nashville, as long as they don’t come out looking like a broken team.

Scungilli Slushy

JimmyV1965:
Was that McDavid shot off the boards behind the net on the PP a set play? McDavid keeps doing this stuff that you’re not sure is on purpose or just a fluke.

They call that generational play. He’ll never take credit.

Scungilli Slushy

fishman: Agree on all 3! Nurse is just a horse. Leon gets another big point but didn’t really like his game over all. Talbot held the fort when he had to. Boston is a really, really good team!

Leon hopefully gets some mojo off that. It isn’t a fair reflection on his game tonight to be largely ineffective most shifts and get gifted the OT goal by McPerfect.

Strome did a far better job of driving the play forward at least. If Leon was pushing forward even if not scoring is one thing, but not getting the puck to good areas often enough, being lethargic in general and in particular chasing the play back which means not turning the puck north, is not good.

Maybe he’s sick or hurt. He isn’t good enough or productive enough to play like Ovechkin usually does. I don’t have a thing out for Leon or any player especially Oiler, but meh is meh 🙂

Players need to play well most of the time, or find better solutions, it’s how a team stays at the top. I’m not saying a better solution is an easy find either.

Maybe the answer is deciding Leon is an overpriced winger and using other options at C. Perhaps Marody or McLeod can be soft minutes C next season, Nuge back at 2C, freeing up Leon or Strome to play top 6 wing which numbers say isn’t a bad thing.

Trade Lucic is he has a decent year (good game from him, too bad he couldn’t get a good shot there), move Yama LW.

Still an overall very solid outing against a good team even if their B2B, strong team play, solid goalering, another step in the right direction for the good guys.

And Connor McDavid is the best player I’ve seen since Gretzky. There is no doubt at this point, so soon. Ok maybe Mario was at the same level, for now.

JimmyV1965

Was that McDavid shot off the boards behind the net on the PP a set play? McDavid keeps doing this stuff that you’re not sure is on purpose or just a fluke.

GMB3

Glovjuice: And the other half?

Somewhere between thoroughly outplaying them and getting thoroughly outplayed? Didn’t think I was going to need to spell that out.

GMB3

Side: What was not definitive about their win in OT? Oilers dominated it. Or are we pretending Boston got 30 shots on net in OT and the Oilers won it by fluke?

The Oilers may have dominated OT, but that was 37 seconds of play, with McDavid out there. I don’t think there is a person in the world who doesn’t think a McDavid lead line will dominate play.

We certainly did not dominate the game, and I would hardly call it a definitive win. Talbot saved their bacon in the first, and made some really good saves on same grade A chances.

dustrock

For people complaining about playing against the Bruins top line, we are talking about the best line in the world.

Anything close to a saw-off is a win, even with McDavid.

Bank Shot

I like how the Oilers battled back tonight, but man they really didn’t do anything of note in the first period at all.

They are five games into the season, and I can’t point at any game so far as one that the Oilers carried the play in. I would say they were luckier than the Bruins tonight and that game could have easily tilted if the Bruins got some breaks around the net.

That goal mouth stuff on Marchand? by Nurse…That was a blessing. There seemed to be 3-4 more of those for the Bruins as well.

Fans like to point at Todd as the problem, but I highly doubt he’s telling Jujhar Khaira to make a no look between the legs deflection pass at his own blueline….which led to the first goal against.

You won’t convince me that Todd wrote that one up in the playbook.

At the moment, it just looks like a few too many players, just a little bit out of their depth.

Hopefully its a confidence thing and they can turn it on at some point.

Right now it seems like McDavid can make up for almost anything, so this team has a shot even if the warts remain.

GMB3

I though Lucic-Strome-KY looked solid again tonight. Strome looks like he’s found his pulse

Glovjuice

GMB3: I would hardly call an OT win definitive, especially when you are thoroughly outplayed for over half the game.

And the other half?

Side

GMB3: I would hardly call an OT win definitive, especially when you are thoroughly outplayed for over half the game.

What was not definitive about their win in OT? Oilers dominated it. Or are we pretending Boston got 30 shots on net in OT and the Oilers won it by fluke?

GMB3

Old Timer:
While I am very pleased that the Oilers won tonight’s game, they were not full value for the two points.
The Bruins top line owned them and generated numerous HDSC. In addition, Coralli and Accari caused problems all night long.
Still need to tighten up our play.
What did Kassian do tonight?

I thought our positioning was much better in our own end tonight.