Peace Frog

by Lowetide

Last night in Tampa Bay, the Edmonton Oilers played one of those games smart people call a schedule loss. Two games against top flight teams in two nights and zero points might have been anticipated, and was in fact predicted by this blog. Now, let’s get on with the rest of November, secure in the knowledge that humility and realistic expectations are once again part of the fan arsenal.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Jonathan Willis: Under the circumstances, playing in the AHL affords Jesse Puljujarvi the best chance at career redemption.
  • New Lowetide: new day dawning for Oilers prospects in Bakersfield as increased usage means greater success.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: In depth: Embattled Oilers GM Peter Chiarelli defends his record, remains bullish on the future.
  • Lowetide: Future Oilers bubbling under in Bakersfield may get a look sooner rather than later.
  • Lowetide: Oscar Klefbom takes a step forward for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Forty years later, remembering the forgotten trade that brought Wayne Gretzky to Edmonton.
  • Tyler Dellow: Isolating issues with the NHL’s slower paced power plays.
  • Lowetide: Oilers reach a pressure point on defence and right wing
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Does Caggiula’s recent performance warrant another chance alongside McDavid?
  • Jonathan Willis: Predicting the impact Ethan Bear and Edmonton’s other top AHL prospects will make at the NHL level.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Gravel-Benning were 5-4 Corsi for 5-on-5 in 5:46, 3-2 shots and no goals, 0-1 HDSC. Pairing went 1-1 with McDavid, 4-3 without. I think the Oilers badly need an upgrade but it’s hard to argue this pair lost the game. What is hurting the group is the major minutes being played by the other two pairings. Benning needs help here.
  • Klefbom-Larsson went 15-13 in 14:28, 8-6 shots, no goals, 2-3 in HDSC. I’m loving their work this season, they were 7-5 McDavid, 8-8 without. Impressive. Went 7-4 against Gourde-Point-Johnson, 0-1 in 4:49.
  • Nurse-Russell were 10-17 in 13:22, 6-12 in shots, 0-2 in goals and 1-4 in HDSC. This pairing is consistently the tipping point in games, that speaks to the importance of strengthening the third pairing as the season goes along. Went 6-5 in 7:01 against Gourde-Point-Johnson, 0-1 in goals.
  • Mikko Koskinen stopped 30 of 35, .857. He was not the reason Edmonton lost the game.
  • NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.

I’m not an overly bloodthirsty sort but do understand the rage Oilers fans and players felt last night during the second straight evening of ghastly officiating. The “rookie” hacked and ran around unchecked last night, Lucic’s reaction to him may well have been the next logical step as far as the head coach was concerned.

The events surrounding last night’s violence suggest to me that this team is tighter than a year ago, and that Kris Russell is one of the most popular players on the team. If the NHL isn’t going to address the slashes to 97’s wrists, and look the other way when blatant penalties are committed, then releasing Milan Lucic like the hounds at old man Burns’ place is an option.

You may think it cruel, or may believe it’s better that than seeing Connor McDavid miss 40 games in the middle of winter, you may feel that would be the real crime. Is the Lucic play a true deterrent? History suggests it is not, so we are left to assume the policeman role played by the big winger was for the benefit of his teammates and coaches. I’m fine with it, as long as we can agree the McDavid slashes are going to continue unabated until the NHL realizes having its best players on IR is madness.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Nuge-McDavid-Rattie were 16-10 in 12:01, 12-5 shots, 0-1 goals and 1-3 HDSC. McDavid was a little shy on the second night of a back-to-back, the only way to make things (somewhat) equal. I deliberately watched the away pbp last night and they were stunned by McDavid’s offensive brilliance. If not for McDonagh and Vaseleviskiy, he would have had several points. Next time, Tampa. McDavid went 14-10, 0-2 goals against McDonagh-Stralman, Lightning got lucky that the Capitals faced the superhero 24 hours previously.
  • Rieder-Draisaitl-Caggiula were 11-11 in 10:12, 4-5 shots, 0-1 goals and 2-0 HDSC. I saw many tweets blaming Todd McLellan for Alex Chiasson’s absence, which is of course silly. Chiasson missed the game because he was banged up. Leon was a blast, loving his game these days. Went 10-4 against Coburn-Sergachev.
  • Lucic-Strome-Yamamoto scored a goal! Strome scored it, and my goodness it was overdue. Went 7-8 in 9:27, 3-5 shots, no goals at 5-on-5, 0-3 in HDSC. Strome’s goal was a relief, glad he scored it. Puljujarvi is more effective on this line, suspect he or Yamamoto will be in California by the weekend. Were 5-3 in 5:16 against Coburn-Sergachev. Lucic’s offensive touch, both passing and shooting, have now gone missing for over a year (9-23-32) now. This will need to be addressed if the organization plans to make the playoffs.
  • Khaira-Brodziak-Kassian were 2-8 in 7:31, 1-5 shots and 0-2 in HDSC. I would like to see Khaira at center for a few games.

OILERS AFTER 15

  • Oilers in October 2015: 5-10-0, 10 points; goal differential -8
  • Oilers in October 2016: 9-5-1, 19 points; goal differential +6
  • Oilers in October 2017: 6-8-1, 13 points; goal differential -11
  • Oilers in October 2018: 8-6-1, 17 points; goal differential -2

We now reach a small area of danger for the 2018 team. The road losses were expected, I projected the Washington and Tampa Bay results. The key now, in order to avoid falling back to 2015 or 2017 levels, is a road victory in Sunrise before heading home. Last night and Washington’s result were the cost of doing business in the NHL, but it’s important to recover.

THE OILERS IN NOVEMBER

  • Oilers in November 2015: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in November 2016: 2-1-1, five points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in November 2017: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in November 2018: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential 0

The 2018 Oilers are now basically even with all three of the previous incarnations of the Chiarelli-McLellan Oilers.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN NOVEMBER

  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Detroit, Washington, Tampa Bay, Florida  (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: Colorado, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: San Jose, Anaheim, Los Angeles (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Dallas, Los Angeles  (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games 
  • Current results: 2-2-0, 4 points in 4 games

The month is going exactly as projected above, with a win next up against the Panthers. We are quickly entering the most difficult area to project (Colorado, Montreal, Calgary, Vegas) and I do believe the month turns on the next five games.

ALL HAIL WOODCROFT!

I wrote this yesterday, Jay Woodcroft is playing the kids. It will become even more important when Kailer Yamamoto and or Jesse Puljujarvi are sent down. I spoke to a couple of people with knowledge of the past dating back several years, and based on early results, I think Woodcroft is the first AHL Oilers coach to give kids a push as rookie pros since Claude Julien. Seriously.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning, so much sports are happening! At 10 this morning, TSN1260, scheduled to appear:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal. We’ll review last night’s game and talk about Lucic plus the third pairing.
  • Jon Campbell, Oddshark. We’ll look at college basketball, college football, the Cowboys-Eagles, Stanley Cup odds.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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Beat It Square

I was hoping to see a picture of Milan with the title “The Beast In Me” this morning LT!

russ99

To me the most egregious call was the holding call on McDavid. That says the fix is truly in.

Hoping for a bounceback against the Panthers, even though that could gave easily could have been 5-5 save some goalie acrobatics/puck luck in the Lightning net.

Need to tighten up on D, and I agree the crazy icetime the first two pairs are racking up is starting to have an effect, which is more noticable on the back end of a back to back. Russell has had a hard go, defending Ovechkin and Stamkos on back to backs, if we had some D cover, would help to give him a night off.

Two waiver wire pickups on D and wing would do a world of good.

Maybe Lucic’s impending suspension helps the team both ways, made a statement, and he gets a few games off.

OriginalPouzar

Tough game last night – that is a deep team that came in waves and pressured our up and down defensive group.

A nice bounce-back game for the top pairing but the 2nd pairing struggled again. I have given Kris Russell his due kudos this year as he has done great work filling in as a stop-gap at 2RD but he is starting to regress to historical norms and Nurse is not able to carry the pairing. Tough game for Kris Russell last night – lots of high event mistakes.

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Thursday becomes very important now. Need to walk out out of FLA with two points and the road trip will end up just fine at 2-2. A zero point loss would be a very poor outcome and Oilers social media would be insufferable.

I am confident Talbot is going to have a strong performance on Thursday.

Go Oilers!

jtblack

“We now reach a small area of danger for the 2018 team. The road losses were expected, I projected the Washington and Tampa Bay results. The key now, in order to avoid falling back to 2015 or 2017 levels, is a road victory in Sunrise before heading home”

No need to Panic, but what if we don’t win in Sunrise?

Tampa has 4 excellent D men and 2.5 Great forward lines.

Edm has 2 Good d men and 1.5 Great forward lines.

We were highly.outclassed and they didnt have the reigning Norris Trophy winner playing. Shows me how far off our roster is from being a true CUP ccntender

texmex

russ99,

Zero chance he gets suspended.

Edit: I could be wrong LOL

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Sounds like there will most likely be a hearing for Lucic with @NHLPlayerSafety over his hit on Joseph. #TBLightning

npanciroli

You can’t in good faith run that second pairing anymore. They have been getting killed.

The worst part about the reffing last night wasn’t necessarily the missed calls – it was the type of calls they missed which let the game get out of control. Then you have guys running around with no calls but other players getting calls for lame hooks. No one knows what to do anymore.

Neumann

LT I love that you don’t harp on officiating on the regular, and when you bring the noise you know something is up. Still blown away that 97 isn’t drawing a minimum of one penalty a game.

bendelson

A couple of comments this morning…

Firstly, I’m not going to overreact to a scheduled loss against the leagues best.
Secondly, NHL referees are not good enough. Are they getting worse?
Thirdly, the Oilers second pairing won’t do. No sir. What would Nurse look like with a solid (3D) partner?
Lastly… have a wonderful day!

Sierra

During the playoff series against the Ducks the refs stopped making calls on McDavid. Nothing has changed since. Maybe they, or the league, thought the 16/17 Oilers had too many PPs and were too successful. The slashing and interference is a disgrace.

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

If Looch gets suspended, and the third line gets going while he’s out, the data is going to be hard to ignore. Leon didn’t really start getting going until Looch was dropped to the third line.
It’s not fair to pinpoint Strome as not doing enough while Lucic is on his wing.
Run Caggiula/Strome/Yamamoto for a few games if Lucic is suspended. When I watch him now, all I see is a good 4th liner: skates hard, physical, hard on the forecheck/backcheck/brings energy/NO HANDS AT ALL. The only difference between him and Kassian right now is opportunity.

jtblack

bendelson,

“Thirdly, the Oilers second pairing won’t do. No sir. What would Nurse look like with a solid (3D) partner?”

PC never properly addressed the D and it has forced Todd to play the Top pair 26 + mind a night.

I wonderr as well; would Nurse be a lot better with a partner like Larssson? or just a little. Nurse still seems tobhave trouble on reads and clearing the zone if he can’t skatee it out.

jake70

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
If Looch gets suspended, and the third line gets going while he’s out, the data is going to be hard to ignore.Leon didn’t really start getting going until Looch was dropped to the third line.It’s not fair to pinpoint Strome as not doing enough while Lucic is on his wing.Run Caggiula/Strome/Yamamoto for a few games if Lucic is suspended.When I watch him now, all I see is a good 4th liner: skates hard, physical, hard on the forecheck/backcheck/brings energy/NO HANDS AT ALL.The only difference between him and Kassian right now is opportunity.

And about 4 million bucks. 😉

McSorley33

It was a scheduled loss for sure…but Tampa didn’t even have Hedman in their lineup.

They are just a better team – by some margin.

But that 2nd pairing is officially becoming a tire fire.

Maybe a few games with Benning instead of Russell?

Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR

jake70: And about 4 million bucks.

The contract doesn’t even matter now. He’s not going anywhere, so just put the best lineup on the ice. If that lineup has Lucic on the 4th line, than do it. I’d even rather see Khaira on 3LW before Lucic. At least there’s a chance Khaira gets something done offensively. They are hamstringing the third line right now with Lucic, and then wondering why they can’t generate secondary scoring. Loyalty needs to get trumped by results.

npanciroli

McSorley33,

I would put Benning back for sure to see how that works. Trade is the ideal option, but who knows if there is a market or if a 2RD is even available.

JimmyV1965

If there is a hearing it should be for the refs. One of the worst officiated games I’ve seen in a long time. They let it get out of control by calling all kinds of ticky tak silly penalties and ignoring the many blatant muggings.

npanciroli

Hasn’t Lucic created a lot of chances and has a pretty good expected goals for % just him and his linemates haven’t been able to cash this year?

npanciroli

JimmyV1965,

hear hear!

Woogie63

Training Camp is over, the next fifteen games should see;

Nuge-McDavid_Rattie
Reider-Draisaitl-Puljarjavi
Lucic-Khaira-Chassion
Caggulia-Strome-Kassian

Klefbom-Larsson
Nurse – Trade
Russell-Benning

Talbot
Koskinen

PP1
Hopkins-McDavid-Pulijarvjavi
Drisaitl-Klebom

PP2
Reider-Chaisson-Lucic
Stome-Nurse

PK
Nuge-Reider
Khaira-Chaisson
Stome-Kassian

DBO

Lucic haters must be happy. he went goon, which if he isn’t scoring he may as well do it. And he is likely suspended, so you will see someone else at 3LW in next few games.

And while I don’t advocate thuggery, I will say it made me smile when Lucic went after the Tampa kid. I guarantee in the room it was well received. When the game was still in question, no one retaliated. But with all the crap McDavid has to play through, and no one having to be accountable, this is a necessary retaliation once game was out of reach. He didn’t run the kid into the boards from behind, he hit him square on, not to the head, but in the chest. Yes he gave him a few love taps on the ground (which the kid smartly turtled), and then the team (including McDavid) all got engaged. May not seem like much, but this may be as galvanizing a move as the Winnipeg comeback.

texmex

Woogie63,

Who did you trade for the 2RD? Brodziak? ;p

godot10

Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite is indefensible. One can hit legally in hockey in the context of a hockey play. Do that. Premeditated assault should be punished severely by the NHL, and if not by the NHL by the police and judicial systems.

McSorley33

Khaira-Brodziak-Kassian were 2-8 in 7:31, 1-5 shots and 0-2 in HDSC. I would like to see Khaira at center for a few games.
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Brodziak is very noticeable……not even close to keeping up to the pace of the game.

CF% 46
GF% 26

dustrock

Didn’t want to say anything last night when I wasn’t sober, but fuck this bush league and its terrible reffing.

That’s 2 games in a row.

Noticed this pair of refs had the LIghtning 9-0 last year, guess that 100% streak is continuing.

Sick of the same bullshit every year, sick of the NHL letting these gritensity talentless hacks have a huge consequence on the game by injuring or going after star players.

People were whining about Lucic on twitter last night but holy hell, was there no talk about 2 hits from behind that weren’t called by the refs?

Lucic was 100% right to go after Joseph, and frankly he could have ended his life. Young Looch just might have done that, but Old Man Lucic hit him hard and gave him a facewash.

Every sport I’ve watched or played, when the refs let crap like that go, the game is going to get out of control.

At some point I really wish McLellan or Chiarelli would rip into the league but if there is a hidden vendetta against the Oilers already, then complaining is only going to make things worse.

--hudson--

Noticed one of the refs last night was Jake Brenk. A 5th round pick by the Oilers, the same year Hemsky and Doug Lynch were drafted. I remember the headline in the journal, “This Jake Can Skate. Jake Brenk from Breck “

I think we’re all curious to see how the team looks if Milan has to sit out a game or two.

npanciroli

dustrock:

Noticed this pair of refs had the LIghtning 9-0 last year, guess that 100% streak is continuing.

That is insane.

McSorley33

Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite is indefensible. One can hit legally in hockey in the context of a hockey play. Do that. Premeditated assault should be punished severely by the NHL, and if not by the NHL by the police and judicial systems.
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Not going to say a word about what transpired to McDavid and our other players?

Just going to watch our players get abused? Just give stern looks to the abuser..

Do you just hope & wish the Brandon Manning”s of the world play nice ?

Woodguy v2.0

. Now, let’s get on with the rest of November, secure in the knowledge that humility and realistic expectations are once again part of the fan arsenal.

Ha!

Woodguy v2.0

Oiler Goal Share after 15 games (8-6-1)

Even strength (5v5, 4v4, 3v3):
McDavid On Ice 14-9 (56%)
McDavid Off Ice 14-20 (41%)
Net EV -1

Special Teams (PP+shorties for – PK + shorties against):
14-14
Net ST 0

Empty Net:
2-3
Net EN -1

Net Goal Differential -2

Analysis: EDM has needed an Actual 2RD since they traded Tom Gilbert

BONE207

texmex:
russ99,

Zero chance he gets suspended.

Edit: I could be wrong LOL

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Sounds like there will most likely be a hearing for Lucic with @NHLPlayerSafety over his hit on Joseph. #TBLightning

My bet would be a fine to Lucic. He checked him clean. Interference call only. He punched him in the head. Fine. Sat on him & explained his future in the league. Had Lucic pounded him further, suspension would be appropriate. Lack of proper reffing is the culprit here. Nhl…what a shit show…

npanciroli

BONE207: Sat on him & explained his future in the league.

hahaha

godot10

Nelson was playing a team of mostly first and 2nd year forwards the year he took Oklahoma City to the Calder Cup semi-finals losing to the team that had Scrivens playing lights out, Kadri, and Gardiner.

Mark Arcobello
Philip Cornet
Teemu Hartikainen
Magnus Paajarvi
Tyler Pitlick
Chris VandeVelde
Anti Tyrvainen
Anton Lander

Hunter Tremblay**
Tanner House**

The only young forward who had limited play was Curtis Hamilton.

10 of the 12 forwards who received major playing time during the season and in the playoffs were first and 2nd year pro. Two were older college players. So eight of the twelve were first or 2nd year pros. All ten were regulars in the playoffs.

Taylor Chorney was being rehabilitated on the defense.
Alex Plante was a regular on the blue.

There were not many D in the pipeline at that time. They would arrive the following season.

Dicky94

DBO,

It will definitely bring the team together. Kassian did it a couple years ago against Arizona and the team went on quite a run after that game. Maybe I’m old school, but I liked what Lucic did. The Oilers are a closer team today because of it.

Brantford Boy

godot10:
Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite is indefensible.One can hit legally in hockey in the context of a hockey play. Do that.Premeditated assault should be punished severely by the NHL, and if not by the NHL by the police and judicial systems.

Ok, I agree with your assessment on Bertuzzi-Moore hit, it was indefensible, but this wasn’t even the same fucking ballpark… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO-SBPTF5E
Coming to the aid of your teammate is part of this game, and most likely every sport. Lucic hit him without the puck (penalty assessed and ejected) and held on to his chin strap and pressed his head into the ice once he was on the ground. It was intentional no doubt there. Police and judicial systems though, really… probably a good thing you didn’t grow up playing hockey where I did… although a different time, if you didn’t know how to fight, you didn’t go to the park unless it was the scheduled “free skate time”.

godot10

jtblack:
“We now reach a small area of danger for the 2018 team. The road losses were expected, I projected the Washington and Tampa Bay results. The key now, in order to avoid falling back to 2015 or 2017 levels, is a road victory in Sunrise before heading home”

No need to Panic, but what if we don’t win in Sunrise?

Tampa has 4 excellent D men and 2.5 Great forward lines.

Edm has 2 Good d men and 1.5 Great forward lines.

We were highly.outclassed and they didnt have the reigning Norris Trophy winner playing.Shows me how far off our roster is from being a true CUP ccntender

Nurse is a legit top 4D when he has a top 4D partner. We learned that last year from his minutes with Larsson.

We have an A/B test. Nurse with Larsson last year. Nurse with Russell this year. The problem is Russell, NOT Nurse.

godot10

jake70: And about 4 million bucks.

And Kassian is overpaid by a million dollars, so $5 million dollars for real comparable value.

LadiesloveSmid

Hope Lucic is suspended a few games so we can see how the team looks when he is forced out of the lineup.

Also part of me glad he did his own policing

JimmyV1965

Heard on the radio. Can Lucic be suspended for five years?

godot10

npanciroli:
Hasn’t Lucic created a lot of chances and has a pretty good expected goals for % just him and his linemates haven’t been able to cash this year?

#TwoStridesAndGlide has a first name…#NoHands

Draisaitl has no problem scoring and preventing goals away from Lucic.

Lucic can two stride and glide against the competition well enough on the third line, and not be exposed defensively, but the “no hands” is still a problem leading to no production there.

He is clearly bottom six only defensively now, and maybe not an NHL forward at all offensively.

Jethro Tull

godot10:
Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite is indefensible.One can hit legally in hockey in the context of a hockey play. Do that.Premeditated assault should be punished severely by the NHL, and if not by the NHL by the police and judicial systems.

A person steals $10,000 once, another $1 a day for 10,000 days. What’s the difference?

Intent to injure can never be excused. This one got away from the refs, whether through direction or incompetence. Minor infractions left unchecked inevitably led to disproportionate response. Just like with office or international politics.

You start finding reasons to excuse the little stuff, it isn’t such a leap to justify anything.

Lucic should answer for his actions. But there should also be an investigation into why he felt he had to act like this.

godot10

McSorley33:
Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite is indefensible. One can hit legally in hockey in the context of a hockey play. Do that. Premeditated assault should be punished severely by the NHL, and if not by the NHL by the police and judicial systems.
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Not going to say a word about what transpired to McDavid and our otherplayers?

Just going to watch our players get abused? Just give stern looks to the abuser..

Do you just hope & wish the Brandon Manning”s of the world play nice ?

“One can hit legally in hockey in the context of a hockey play. Do that.”

You seem to have missed that.

PennersPancakes

godot10: Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite is indefensible.

This gross exaggeration is indefensible.

Yes Lucic acted in the wrong and was properly penalized. Maybe fines or 1-2 games as well but this wasnt intent to injure. Hell even the people saying it was a sucker punch doesnt make sense, compare that love tap to what Domi did to Ekblad or what Marchand did to Eller and it looks like nothing.

godot10

Brantford Boy: Ok, I agree with your assessment on Bertuzzi-Moore hit, it was indefensible, but this wasn’t even the same fucking ballpark… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO-SBPTF5E
Coming to the aid of your teammate is part of this game, and most likely every sport.Lucic hit him without the puck (penalty assessed and ejected) and held on to his chin strap and pressed his head into the ice once he was on the ground.It was intentional no doubt there.Police and judicial systems though, really… probably a good thing you didn’t grow up playing hockey where I did… although a different time, if you didn’t know how to fight, you didn’t go to the park unless it was the scheduled “free skate time”.

There was stalking. The was a punch to the head of a defenseless player on the ice. Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite.

godot10

PennersPancakes: This gross exaggeration is indefensible.

Yes Lucic acted in the wrong and was properly penalized. Maybe fines or 1-2 games as well but this wasnt intent to injure. Hell even the people saying it was a sucker punch doesnt make sense, compare that love tap to what Domi did to Ekblad or what Marchand did to Eller and it looks like nothing.

“-Lite”

You seem to have missed that.

meanashell11

godot10,

Surely you don’t believe that was vicious from Lucic? The boarding of Nuge was significantly worse.

Richard S.S.

The blatant anti-Oiler bias that gets regularly shown by the Refs every time the Oilers plays is not indifference. The Refs aren’t that incompetent. Is it must be by design/direction?

stush18

It’s easy to say Chiarelli should have gotten a top four dman, but he acquired one when Sekera was set to return.

That was a massive loss for our backend. I don’t see us giving up any assets now. Ride or die.

stush18

godot10: “-Lite”

You seem to have missed that.

If that’s the case you must really hate the way the game is played.

There’s a “lite” offence in every game.

You can say every hit is premeditated and assualt.

digger50

I’m a Lucic fan this morning

PennersPancakes

godot10: There was stalking.The was a punch to the head of a defenseless player on the ice.Bertuzzi-Moore-Lite.

Theres already been worse incidents with intent to injure and headshots to defenseless players this SEASON yet this incident is compared to a lite version of possibly the worst act of violence the NHL has seen?