Game 16 2018-19: Oilers at Panthers

The Edmonton Oilers finish up a four-game road trip tonight in Sunrise, Florida. After winning against Detroit, losses to the Capitals and Lightning have Oilers fans feeling a little uneasy. The Panthers have played in just 11 games, winning only three, but defeated the Winnipeg Jets last time out. It’s a big game for Edmonton, losing three in a row is a bad idea. If Edmonton wins tonight, they keep pace with the Flames and Canucks.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: What happens to the Oilers when Alex Chiasson’s hot streak ends?
  • Jonathan Willis: Under the circumstances, playing in the AHL affords Jesse Puljujarvi the best chance at career redemption.
  • Lowetide: A new day dawning for Oilers prospects in Bakersfield as increased usage means greater success.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: In depth: Embattled Oilers GM Peter Chiarelli defends his record, remains bullish on the future.
  • Lowetide: Future Oilers bubbling under in Bakersfield may get a look sooner rather than later.
  • Lowetide: Oscar Klefbom takes a step forward for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Forty years later, remembering the forgotten trade that brought Wayne Gretzky to Edmonton.
  • Tyler Dellow: Isolating issues with the NHL’s slower paced power plays.
  • Lowetide: Oilers reach a pressure point on defence and right wing
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Does Caggiula’s recent performance warrant another chance alongside McDavid?
  • Jonathan Willis: Predicting the impact Ethan Bear and Edmonton’s other top AHL prospects will make at the NHL level.

OILERS AFTER 16

  • Oilers in October 20156-10-0, 10 points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in October 2016: 9-6-1, 19 points; goal differential +4
  • Oilers in October 2017: 6-9-1, 13 points; goal differential -13
  • Oilers in October 2018: 8-6-1, 17 points; goal differential -2

Edmonton can tie the 2016 club with identical 9-6-1 records with a win tonight. The two losses on this road trip are in the rear view and Ty Rattie is back so the team has some more options on right wing. I think we’re reaching a point where Peter Chiarelli will need to make a move to keep the Oilers playoff chances at current levels. Rattie could delay that move with a productive November.

OILERS IN NOVEMBER

  • Oilers in November 2015: 2-3-0, four points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in November 2016: 2-2-1, five points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in November 2017: 3-2-0, six points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in November 2018: 2-2-0, four points; goal differential 0

It’s important to get some points out of every week, and tonight’s game is the best chance for the Oilers since the weekend. The next three games against the Avs, Habs and Flames feature stronger teams by record than tonight’s opponent. Edmonton hasn’t played down to the competition yet this season, in my opinion.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM NOVEMBER?

  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Detroit, Washington, Tampa Bay, Florida  (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: Colorado, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: San Jose, Anaheim, Los Angeles (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Dallas, Los Angeles  (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games 
  • Current results: 2-2-0, 4 points in 4 games

I have the four games after this one as another 2-2-0 run, before the Oilers get on a reasonable streak as they get into the heart of the Pacific Division. The road game against Calgary is going to be interesting, watched the Flames last night and they are a riddle wrapped in a enigma.

My article today at The Athletic is about the ongoing battle for the soul of the 2018-19 Oilers. The coach isn’t playing Jesse Puljujarvi or Kailer Yamamoto in a feature role, and Ty Rattie has been hurt. In the meantime, the goal-scoring leaders behind 97, 29 and 93 are Alex Chiasson (6) and Drake Caggiula (5). I think a trade is possible, for a right-wing and a right-side blue.

The Penguins are an interesting team and the list of possible trade acquisitions fascinating. I’ve mentioned to you in the past that Peter Chiarelli has a fascination with acquiring the aged and Pittsburgh has some interesting options:

  • Patric Hornqivst, 14, 4-2-6. He is 31, in the first year of a five-year deal that pays 5.3 million per season. His numbers are slightly below previous levels, perhaps the Penguins are open to a trade. He would help the power play.
  • Carl Hagelin, 14, 1-2-3. He is also 30, a speed burner and makes $4 million this season (UFA in the summer). He gets lots of PK work and could give the bottom-six forward group another veteran hand.
  • Brian Rust, 14, 1-2-3. He is one of the Penguins who has struggled this season (38 points one year ago). He is 26 and has a similar skill set to Hagelin. He is $3.5 million times four, that might be a contract Jim Rutherford is keen to offload.
  • Riley Sheahan, 14, 1-1-2. He is not a strong offensive player but does have abilities as a shutdown center. He is 26, UFA in the summer and makes $2.1 million. If the Pens are knocking on Chiarelli’s door re: Ryan Strome, this player might be in the conversation.

On defense, I have always worried about the Oilers and Jack Johnson, so you might see something along those lines. There are also young struggling wingers like Daniel Sprong, but Edmonton has their own young struggling wingers so it makes little sense from here.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy show with splendid guests, we get rolling at 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Simon Boisvert, Prospect Insider. One of our most popular guests will pop in and offer opinions on Jesse Puljujarvi, Kailer Yamamoto and the group in Bakersfield so far this season.
  • Jacob Klinger, Penn Live. We’ll chat about a resilient Steelers team and the Le’Veon Bell situation.
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. Milan Lucic, Chiarelli scouting games, Penguins pondering change.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Starts at 10!

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  1. Munny says:

    A goal here would sure help the legs out.

  2. Munny says:

    Fucking Luongo

  3. Sierra says:

    jtblack: I think when you play your Top 6 or 7 guys 24 + mins a night; they are bound to have wild swings in effectiveness.

    Gonna have to hit the reset button @ home

    Or is it simply that one team had 5 days off while the other is playing their 3rd game in 4 nights…plus 3 huge saves by Luongo?

    Edit: make that 4 huge saves.

  4. Zelepukin says:

    man PJ is definitely getting sent down.

  5. godot10 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – I’m here !2000 max!Cold beer though. Nice folks.

    Is it cheaper to fly from Toronto to Florida for the game and back, or taking the subway to Scotiabank Place?

  6. Pretendergast says:

    Rattie take one right in the chops moments after Mcdavids hands are slashed by 3 Florida players.

    Why do they even pay these guys, get Lucic to have a fireside chat with all of them, at least itll be worth the paycheque, and the $2 price of admission to boot.

  7. McSorley33 says:

    Brodziak with a lovely set up to Bjugstad….just couldn’t cash.

  8. Munny says:

    Some actual fore-checking…

  9. Paulie says:

    Lots of Oilers falling down. Strome, Larson, Benning

  10. McSorley33 says:

    Hope you are enjoying the beer Kinger.

  11. jp says:

    Shots 26-13. Wow.

  12. Oil2Oilers says:

    Gravel has been a competent #3 LHD over the last two games.

  13. jtblack says:

    Sierra: Or is it simply that one team had 5 days off while the other is playing their 3rd game in 4 nights…plus 3 huge saves by Luongo?

    Edit: make that 4 huge saves.

    Probably could apply a whole bunch of Narratives Generally teams don’t play well after 5 days off.

    Edm is not great on the Road
    Edm is not that Good.
    Edm has played 3 in 4 (as you mentioned) & when you don’t have depth; the Top players are burned out
    Edm D is suspect
    Edm is not that Good …. *repeat*

    LT; should we be worried now? or is this a blip in the road

  14. texmex says:

    Vancouver up 6-4 against Boston…..,

  15. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    godot10: Is it cheaper to fly from Toronto to Florida for the game and back, or taking the subway to Scotiabank Place?

    – tickets were 80 for 2 but youbsit anywhere and 2 tall beers and snack included

    – I never thought of it that way but for sure.

    – Flew on points. Platinums at Toronto are over 600 bucks each.

    – could probably fly in and party all night and get back to Toronto for less than a platinum ticket and stupid beer prices.

  16. Lowetide says:

    After Two: 2-0 Florida

    Shots 26-14 Florida (19-4 Florida in the second period)
    Corsi for 5-on-5: 34-20 Florida (21-6 Florida in the second period)

    This is a terrible effort by Edmonton. Shameful.

  17. McSorley33 says:

    Lowetide,

    Agreed.

    If not for the Huberdeau “penalty “ there the refs might have been close to stopping the fight.

  18. Lowetide says:

    jtblack:
    LT; should we be worried now?or is this a blip in the road

    The book says it’s just one game, but man this reminds me of post-Christmas a year ago.

  19. McSorley33 says:

    Florida likely to sit back and clog the neutral zone for the 3rd ….

  20. blainer says:

    Lowetide:
    After Two: 2-0 Florida

    Shots 26-14 Florida (19-4 Florida in the second period)
    Corsi for 5-on-5: 34-20 Florida (21-6 Florida in the second period)

    This is a terrible effort by Edmonton. Shameful.

    And I drove two hours to watch this shit show by the oil tonight.. I feel like asking g for a refund .. terrible effort..

  21. flyfish1168 says:

    Anyone watching the OHL Vs Russia game? Wondering how picks are playing

  22. Lowetide says:

    blainer: And I drove two hours to watch this shit show by the oil tonight.. I feel like asking g for a refund .. terrible effort..

    Maybe they’ve saved all the goals for the third period! Hang in, Blainer!

  23. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    I hope nobody taped over the Winnipeg game.

  24. blainer says:

    Lowetide: Maybe they’ve saved all the goals for the third period! Hang in, Blainer!

    Counting on it..

  25. jtblack says:

    Rally Cap on ….

  26. treevojo says:

    Lol l. The dr has the medicine

  27. jp says:

    Well, it’s a game now!!

  28. jake70 says:

    Todd is genius.

  29. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    lol

  30. ArmchairGM says:

    Lowetide:
    After Two: 2-0 Florida

    Shots 26-14 Florida (19-4 Florida in the second period)
    Corsi for 5-on-5: 34-20 Florida (21-6 Florida in the second period)

    This is a terrible effort by Edmonton. Shameful.

    Yikes!

  31. ArmchairGM says:

    jp:
    Well, it’s a game now!!

    Too soon.

  32. flyfish1168 says:

    canucks having a good game

  33. AntsOfTheSky says:

    Can someone smarter than me tell me how much time Puljujuarvi has played with Leon or Connor this season? Just once I’d like to see Todd try him in the top 6 instead of Drake when he shuffles the lines. Although I haven’t been watching too closely so apologies if Drake is there on merit this time.

  34. jtblack says:

    Hawks down 3-0 after 1 period Pkayers gutted by the Quenville firing.

  35. jtblack says:

    The Oilers just look completely incapable of creating any HD scoring chances when #97 is on the bench.

  36. franksterra says:

    How’s Talbot doing? Cant watch the game.

  37. wood99 says:

    Why does Talbot drop to his knees as soon as the puck enters our zone. He doesn’t look anything like he did when he first came to Edmonton. I think maybe it is the style our goaltending coach has them playing. Our goalies get beat up high all the time because they seem to be on their knees all the time. Maybe I’m wrong but it sure seems like it to me.

  38. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    Im pretending the one on Barkov just there made it 3-1, instead of the gaping chasm, feels better that way.

  39. Paulie says:

    Lucic 3rd in league in hits. 321st in effectiveness.

  40. treevojo says:

    AntsOfTheSky:
    Can someone smarter than me tell me how much time Puljujuarvi has played with Leon or Connor this season?Just once I’d like to see Todd try him in the top 6 instead of Drake when he shuffles the lines.Although I haven’t been watching too closely so apologies if Drake is there on merit this time.

    Not smarter then anyone.

    Just my opinion.

    Jesse looks like someone who’s confidence is broke.

    You can’t put that on the first line with mcd.

    You put that on the first line in Bakersfield.

  41. godot10 says:

    Chelios is a Dinosaur:
    Im pretending the one on Barkov just there made it 3-1, instead of the gaping chasm, feels better that way.

    Kassian can’t allow that cross pass on the power play. He has to force the shot.

  42. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’m not live so haven’t read recent comments but I don’t know what the eff Talbot was doing on the 3rd goal – the back-breaker….. geez!

  43. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I’m not live so haven’t read recent comments but I don’t know what the eff Talbot was doing on the 3rd goal – the back-breaker….. geez!

    He was relying on Kassian to do his job. Kassian failed.

    Barkov was screening Talbot very effectively. Something Lucic never did. Lucic politely move aside to let the goaltender see the puck.

    When it is impossible for the goaltender to see the play and the shot, he has to rely on the PK’ers to do their jobs.

    Kassian allowed an easy cross ice pass on the PK.

  44. smellyglove says:

    If anyone wants to jettison the game, a fascinating political debate is about to start.

    BC Premier John Horgan and opposition leader of the BC Liberals, Andrew Wilkinson, will debate proportional representation. In BC there is a referendum underway on switching the voting system:

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/proportional-representation-referendum-debate-1.4896484

  45. jp says:

    treevojo:

    You put that on the first line in Bakersfield.

    Did he earn it though?

  46. jtblack says:

    A quick update on the Worst FA class ever (2016).

    GOALS:
    LADD – 3
    LUCIC – 1
    ERICKSSON – 1
    BROUWER – 1
    BACKES – 0
    WEISE – 0

  47. Gerta Rauss says:

    That’s a disappointing loss

    Luongo was Luongo again

    asshole…lol

  48. Dicky94 says:

    Well that was disappointing.

  49. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I don’t see how Talbot can be faulted for any of the goals tonight
    First was a great play and a very high danger scoring chance
    Second one off a leg in front and drops straight to Bjugstad
    Third Barkov blinded him with a great screen

  50. jp says:

    That really sucked. I missed large parts of the game, but struck me like the game against NJ, and the ones before that. Not good.

  51. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    godot10,

    Did Debrusk just call that a ‘flash screen’?

  52. jtblack says:

    Well this won’t sit well with the Faithful.

    There is Losing …. and there is NOT being in any of the 3 games. Not even close. Down 2-0 in every game. Score effects take over to make it look reasonable; but the Oilers never had a chance in any of the last 3 games.

    Pathetic!

  53. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I’m not live so haven’t read recent comments but I don’t know what the eff Talbot was doing on the 3rd goal – the back-breaker….. geez!

    I always suspected you were Zombie.

  54. godot10 says:

    I was wrong. McLellan doesn’t always believe that “more is more”. The stubbornness means he his stuck on one idea. More Draisaitl with McDavid.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckCwBAhz4oc

  55. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    So is the head coach job now secure for this season? This team is in real danger of losing 4 straight and this was piss poor effort tonight.

    Meanwhile the Canucks …. Are you telling me the Canucks have better players than the oilers?

  56. texmex says:

    Does looch score again this year?? I’ll say yes, once

  57. itsaleaf says:

    Not good

  58. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    jtblack,

    I actually think the Oilers were fairly even during most of the Caps & Lighting loses. Thats why I had hopes that they would stay on the gas and put the lesser team away. Tonight was another level on this road trip.

  59. Dicky94 says:

    Chia needs to bring in some help for this team ASAP.

  60. godot10 says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    So is the head coach job now secure for this season? This team is in real danger of losing 4 straight and this was piss poor effort tonight.

    Meanwhile the Canucks …. Are you telling me the Canucks have better players than the oilers?

    They put up an eight-bagger without Boeser, and Pettersson had one point. WTF!

  61. godot10 says:

    texmex:
    Does looch score again this year?? I’ll say yes, once

    They have to play him with McDavid, so McDavid can shoot it off of Lucic’s stationary stick again.

  62. godot10 says:

    Chelios is a Dinosaur:
    jtblack,

    I actually think the Oilers were fairly even during most of the Caps & Lighting loses. Thats why I had hopes that they would stay on the gas and put the lesser team away. Tonight was another level on this road trip.

    They did all their scoring last night on South Beach! -).

  63. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Dicky94:
    Chia needs to bring in some help for this team ASAP.

    Peter doesn’t need to do anything more at this point. This team as configured should make the playoffs but it won’t. It’s going to take twenty games for this to settle out and it isn’t going to be fun or pretty.

  64. treevojo says:

    jp: Did he earn it though?

    Haven’t watched any Bakersfield games but apparently the head coach has road enough bus to put prospects on the first line.

  65. godot10 says:

    treevojo: Haven’t watched any Bakersfield games but apparently the head coach has road enough bus to put prospects on the first line.

    I doubt Woodcroft breaks up Benson, Marody, and Hebig, or the first PP unit. So you are talking Puljujarvi going down to play 3rd line with Currie, and #2PP.

  66. treevojo says:

    godot10: They have to play him with McDavid, so McDavid can shoot it off of Lucic’s stationary stick again.

    Kinda like Draisaitl’s goal tonight?

  67. treevojo says:

    godot10: I doubt Woodcroft breaks up Benson, Marody, and Hebig.So you are talking Puljujarvi going down to play 3rd line with Currie.

    Well you have never been wrong before so?!

  68. texmex says:

    Réal Goudenyéu,

    Montreal will blow the oilers out. So 5 losses is a real possibility. Their speed is impressive.

  69. godot10 says:

    treevojo: Kinda like Draisaitl’s goal tonight?

    There is likely a difference in the frequency of opportunities between Draisaitl and Lucic.

  70. godot10 says:

    texmex:
    Réal Goudenyéu,

    Montreal will blow the oilers out. So 5 losses is a real possibility. Their speed is impressive.

    The OIlers have Price’s number. #CountingChickens

  71. texmex says:

    godot10,

    Haven’t lost in Florida since 2002……. wait

  72. treevojo says:

    texmex:
    Réal Goudenyéu,

    Montreal will blow the oilers out. So 5 losses is a real possibility. Their speed is impressive.

    There is one game in between that game but this sounds like a bet.

    I’m willing to throw $25 towards a donation to Lowetide on the oilers over Montreal.

    Mcdavid’s speed is impressive.

  73. Scungilli Slushy says:

    If coach Q would come to Oil Country in my world it’s a done deal.

    There is too much ability on this roster to play this poorly, so often. Somebody has to pay, MacT is in charge on ice.

    Do not promote any of the assistants given that Q is out there.

    It to me is absolutely about the system.

    Every goalie that comes can’t make saves (hat tip to Silverman), every player except elite can’t seem to play effectively, and the good are trying to rush the puck solo consistently.

    This has been over many coaches, so as a manager what do you think?

    What is the reason why that the Oilers seem to play without an offensive strategy, that I see that other teams obviously using against us, and bottom feeders look like contenders all too often?

    Is it the back halls? I don’t know but really, why waste the this potential?

    If they mess this up now I will not change my team, I’ll do what I’ve done before and will stop participating with interest about the team and league again, only watching interesting playoffs.

    After the Messier trade I was AWOL for at least a decade. Maybe I take it to heart, but that is my fandom.

    I can deal with losing, I don’t like poor performance overall and politics that trump success.

    Same for the Eskimos.

    Enough crap.

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: I doubt Woodcroft breaks up Benson, Marody, and Hebig, or the first PP unit.So you are talking Puljujarvi going down to play 3rd line with Currie, and #2PP.

    Malone is also on PP1 and can be subbed off for Puljujarvi.

  75. Paulie says:

    texmex:
    Does looch score again this year?? I’ll say yes, once

    Who cares as long as he’s third in the league in hits!

  76. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Malone is also on PP1 and can be subbed off for Puljujarvi.

    Malone was never a prospect. JP should get close to 20 minutes or more per night. Woodcroft I’m sure is well aware

  77. hags9k says:

    What a piss poor game. Fire the mall. Waterslides, pirate ship, sea lions, all of them can clean out their fuckin desks.

  78. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    The amount of travel on this road trip was ridiculous.

    A back to back from Washington to Tampa? That’s nuts

    They’ll be fine with a couple of days rest

  79. Paulie says:

    flyfish1168: Malone was never a prospect. JP should get close to 20 minutes or more per night. Woodcroft I’m sure is well aware

    Woodcroft is the most important coach in the system. Oil have 3 top 6 forwards and 2-3 top 4 D (Nurse a #4 in my book). Given the cap pressures and declining vet talent, Woodcroft has to develop at least 2 top six forwards and another top 4 D.

  80. OmJo says:

    Quenneville is still a FA 👀

  81. OmJo says:

    hags9k:
    What a piss poor game.Fire the mall. Waterslides, pirate ship, sea lions, all of them can clean out their fuckin desks.

    Are the sea lions still there?

  82. treevojo says:

    godot10,

    texmex,

    You guys must be cousins.

    Make bold statements.

    Challenged to a bet.

    Crickets!

  83. OmJo says:

    treevojo,

    You’re betting $25 the Oilers beat the Habs?

  84. treevojo says:

    OmJo:
    treevojo,

    You’re betting $25 the Oilers beat the Habs?

    Yes.

    I know you are good for a bet!

  85. texmex says:

    treevojo,

    Ha. I do believe Montreal will beat the oilers handily, but if I take your bet then I will be actively cheering for the oilers to lose, and there is something just wrong with that.

  86. godot10 says:

    treevojo:
    godot10,

    texmex,

    You guys must be cousins.

    Make bold statements.

    Challenged to a bet.

    Crickets!

    I said the Oilers (historically) have Price’s number. Why would I bet on Montreal?

  87. treevojo says:

    texmex:
    treevojo,

    Ha. I do believe Montreal will beat the oilers handily, but if I take your bet then I will be actively cheering for the oilers to lose, and there is something just wrong with that.

    Fair.

    I never bet against the oilers and have learned over the last 15 years to pick my spots betting for them.

    Godot on the other hand spent 4 months beating an offer sheet down this blogs throat and when a bet was thrown down he chose to ignore it.

  88. Glovjuice says:

    Paulie: Who cares as long as he’s third in the league in hits!

    And hammering guys to send a message while racking up league supplemental discipline – sure helped tonight. LOL.

  89. treevojo says:

    godot10: I said the Oilers (historically) have Price’s number.Why would I bet on Montreal?

    Different bet Godot.

  90. treevojo says:

    Glovjuice: And hammering guys to send a message while racking up league supplemental discipline – sure helped tonight. LOL.

    I only watched half the game but I didn’t notice Florida running around too much.

    Other then on the scoreboard of course.

  91. godot10 says:

    treevojo: Fair.

    I never bet against the oilers and have learned over the last 15 years to pick my spots betting for them.

    Godot on the other hand spent 4 months beating an offer sheet down this blogs throat and when a bet was thrown down he chose to ignore it.

    That would only be hypocritical of me if I had gone around challenging people to bets left and right, and then refused a challenge.

  92. Scungilli Slushy says:

    texmex:
    treevojo,

    Ha. I do believe Montreal will beat the oilers handily, but if I take your bet then I will be actively cheering for the oilers to lose, and there is something just wrong with that.

    Price will look like his old self because Oilers.

    The only player on the team that consistently is a danger to score in tight is Connor.

    I commented about ‘shinny’ before. Because outside of Connor nobody is showing any instinct. Low percentage shots, no slot strategies that happen with regularity at either end of the ice, poor shot choices, forced plays that fail everywhere.

    They have no mojo, no top shelf, no joy in their game we see from the guys elsewhere that score a lot.

    Outside of Connor that is.

    LA is failing horribly. I know McC can coach differently, why doesn’t he? Maybe he only did it when we saw it because with the NA’s it wash short and he had no options. The Socal thing of before is done, things have changed. Get with it Todd.

  93. who says:

    leadfarmer:
    OriginalPouzar,

    I don’t see how Talbot can be faulted for any of the goals tonight
    First was a great play and a very high danger scoring chance
    Second one off a leg in front and drops straight to Bjugstad
    Third Barkov blinded him with a great screen

    I didn’t like the 3rd goal at all.
    An NHL goalie shouldn’t lose sight of the puck for that long, EVER. Huberdeau could have skated that puck into the net. That’s how out of position Talbot was.
    I’m starting to lose faith in Talbot ever taking this team very far. I don’t know if Koskinen is the answer either, but I would be very wary of extending Talbot for big money.

  94. treevojo says:

    godot10: That would only be hypocritical of me if I had gone around challenging people to bets left and right, and then refused a challenge.

    That’s fair.

    I have always been of the opinion if I am going to beat my opinion down peoples throat I will back it up with something tangible when challenged.

    Each to their own.

    Plus I like to gamble!

  95. drglen says:

    That game was hard to take. Because it reminded me so much of 2013 2014 oilers. I listen on radio. It seemed like jack was calling florida names all night long

  96. Paulie says:

    drglen:
    That game was hard to take. Because it reminded me so much of 2013 2014 oilers.I listen on radio. It seemed like jack was calling florida names all night long

    Fair enough but Oil did play well in 1st. 2nd was awful though

  97. OmJo says:

    treevojo: Yes.

    I know you are good for a bet!

    Yeah but I too think they’ll beat the Habs XP

  98. OmJo says:

    treevojo: I only watched half the game but I didn’t notice Florida running around too much.

    Other then on the scoreboard of course.

    I think when it comes to the Panthers we’re the ones who’ve run around with them lol. IIRC Sutton and Hendricks have both injured a couple of their players.

  99. JimmyV1965 says:

    I do believe Tmac is a thoroughly mediocre coach and I think this team will be better without him. I throw up a bit everytime I see Kassian or the Drake on the PK. But do we really have the horses to be even a playoff team? I keep watching opposition goalies make spectacular game changing saves and at best we can expect is a meh performance from our goalies. I heard somewhere that RNH has one even strength goal this year playing with the best player on the planet. And he’s our third best player. I have no idea what the solution is and unfortunately I’m beginning to grow less interested.

  100. teddyturnbuckle says:

    Anyone notice how Talbot looks like he has a few blind spots in his mask. How many times this season has he lost the puck on a rebound and is looking the other way.

  101. Admiral Ackbar says:

    OmJo:
    Quenneville is still a FA

    How many rings does he have?

    Yeah, PC wouldn’t touch that with a 10 foot pole – he likes his scapegoat.

  102. --hudson-- says:

    Sounds like Todd is a little upset with either Strome or Kassian.

    Source video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asQgsiUJbYs
    ————————————————–
    Q: On Connor and Leon scoring 23 seconds into the third, looked like you were on you’re way, then what happened?
    A: We had hoped that the the change would spark a little bit. I thought that Barkov played really well, his heaviness was tough for Nuge and Connor to haul around alone, so Leon was better equipped for that. So we tried that in the third period, and came out, and got the shift we wanted, got the goal we wanted. But then you know took penalties and the penalty kill has to do a better job. And in that situation, the seam pass is clearly a job for an individual that knows he’s got to do it, and he didn’t get it done.

  103. JimmyV1965 says:

    –hudson–:
    Sounds like Todd is a little upset with either Strome or Kassian.

    Source video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asQgsiUJbYs
    ————————————————–
    Q: On Connor and Leon scoring 23 seconds into the third, looked like you were on you’re way, then what happened?
    A: We had hoped that the the change would spark a little bit. I thought that Barkov played really well, his heaviness was tough for Nuge and Connor to haul around alone, so Leon was better equipped for that. So we tried that in the third period, and came out, and got the shift we wanted, got the goal we wanted.But then you know took penalties and the penalty kill has to do a better job.And in that situation, the seam pass is clearly a job for an individual that knows he’s got to do it, and he didn’t get it done.

    Here’s a thought. Don’t put Kassien on the frickin PK.

  104. Sierra says:

    JimmyV1965: Here’s a thought. Don’t put Kassien on the frickin PK.

    Then who? Of the players on the roster who?

  105. JimmyV1965 says:

    Sierra: Then who? Of the players on the roster who?

    Tonight.

    Reider
    RNH
    Brodziak
    Strome
    Chiasson
    Drai
    McDavid

  106. Wilde says:

    –hudson–: Sounds like Todd is a little upset with either Strome or Kassian.

    It was Strome. I wish he wouldn’t say this shit every time the team’s on the losing streak. Either you’re individuals, or you’re a team.

    Here’s the play.

    https://youtu.be/2Rk8_dmiLlE?t=369

    This play could have been dead on arrival to the blueline. Strome’s contesting this entry very hard, Larsson doesn’t manage the gap well enough to get his stick on it.

    At 6:15 the puck is entirely loose from Strome’s check on Yandle, and Kassian is a RHS against an approaching LHS who’s passing forehand to a guy on Kassian’s left, which is the hand Kass has on his stick if he’s one-handing to try to break up the play, which he is and he does but he goes from right-to-left with it which, at best is going to knock the puck loose to the Panther anyways.

    Then Kassian gets nowhere near either of the passes that are directly in front of him, the carrier walks down the wall and makes a nice head-fake that Strome bites on – at 6:21, the moment he falls for it, this puck is in the net unless the shooter fucks up.

    Just watch everything from 6:12 to 6:21 at 0.5 speed.

    Strome made the most critical of the mistakes, but that was a sloppy entry where he made it pretty easy on his teammates to break it up. So it’s not about whose fault it is, but each individual and their portions of a collective liability.

    Which is every hockey play ever. You know when you blame Strome for that? Video room in a couple weeks. Paired with some clips of him successfully interrupting cross-ice activity, to show him he can do this and do it well. Not tonight. What does that accomplish?

  107. Genjutsu says:

    godot10: They put up an eight-bagger without Boeser, and Pettersson had one point. WTF!

    Sam Gagner had 8 points in one game once.

    Against the Hawks mid dynasty.

    Sky isn’t going anywhere man.

  108. Caribbeerman says:

    If I’m Oiler’s GM today my priorities are:

    * Team remains short of 1 top 4 proven defenceman – must acquire.
    * Send young prospects Yamamoto and Puljujarvi to AHL and keep them there until their game matures – fully.
    * Call up Marody and Malone to replace them.

    Finally – this team becomes too complacent after a couple of wins . They have to play with more intensity like they did on their impressive winning streak – basic hockey, defend hard, shoot pucks to the net and look for rebounds – sounds easy I know but…

  109. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    EDM looked tired.

    10 games in 17 days with never more than a day between games.

    That will run anyone ragged.

    In my pre-season rankings I have FLA making the playoffs, they aren’t as bad as their start. Like their Dcorps and top 9. If Lou stays healthy they should be close.

    That game was officially the end of the horrific schedule to start.

    One game over .500 is ok.

    The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok with the best player on the planet makes me sad.

    This team could have been so much more.

  110. who says:

    Caribbeerman:
    If I’m Oiler’s GM today my priorities are:

    * Team remains short of 1 top 4 proven defenceman – must acquire.
    * Send young prospects Yamamoto and Puljujarvi to AHL and keep them there until their game matures – fully.
    * Call up Marody and Malone to replace them.

    Finally – this team becomes too complacent after a couple of wins . They have to play with more intensity like they did on their impressive winning streak – basic hockey, defend hard, shoot pucks to the net and look for rebounds – sounds easy I know but…

    I agree with this.
    But I don’t think they have the assets or cap space to add that top 4 dman. And I don’t want to see them mortgage the future to get one. We have lots of good young dmen coming, (was really impressed with Samarukov in junior series last night) but it’s going to take a couple of years.
    Maybe Sekera will fill that void when he gets back?

  111. who says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    EDM looked tired.

    10 games in 17 days with never more than a day between games.

    That will run anyone ragged.

    In my pre-season rankings I have FLA making the playoffs, they aren’t as bad as their start.Like their Dcorps and top 9.If Lou stays healthy they should be close.

    That game was officially the end of the horrific schedule to start.

    One game over .500 is ok.

    The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok with the best player on the planet makes me sad.

    This team could have been so much more.

    Yeah. Let’s not jump down their throats after one bad game at the end of that schedule.
    In my mind this is a playoff bubble team. Let’s not pretend they are cup contenders.

  112. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    That was a bad game in the end, inability to cash on Luongo in the 1st set the stage for a pooped squad not finding the space to dig deep when they had to.

    A top 10 team has the skills to outscore and win that game despite being outworked and outplayed – most of the time. Or, your goalie will steal it for you if your goalie is top shelf – but still not always.

    Oilers still only good enough to win games they shouldn’t on rare occasions, when things break well.

    There is a suffocating parity in the NHL right now, and the difference between first and last is narrow to the point that if you aren’t bringing it every time, smart, healthy and prepared, while the other team is, you are more likely to lose than not irrespective of your opponent.

    They got bit. But the Oilers can recover from this.

  113. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    who,

    The roller-coaster of emotions will continue until moral improves.

    This last bit of schedule is horrid in its expectations.

    The back to back from Washington to Tampa at the end of it all was truly cruel.

    No biggie though, a couple nights in bed at home and a practice or two to settle the nerves and things will be fine. They just need to keep pace for another week, Pacific division teams are coming up and that’ll make all the difference if they can right the ship. Travel calms down and so does the pace of play.

    The sky isn’t falling folks, just chill 🙂

  114. pts2pndr says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    EDM looked tired.

    10 games in 17 days with never more than a day between games.

    That will run anyone ragged.

    In my pre-season rankings I have FLA making the playoffs, they aren’t as bad as their start.Like their Dcorps and top 9.If Lou stays healthy they should be close.

    That game was officially the end of the horrific schedule to start.

    One game over .500 is ok.

    The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok with the best player on the planet makes me sad.

    This team could have been so much more.

    Is it just me or does sitting Khaira negatively effect the PK? McLellans deployment of his forwards is also suspect in my opinion. There appears to be little continuity on who sits and who gets moved up. The McBlender is alive and well. This strategy works in the short term but is a recipe for failure. For the players it has to seem like playing the first week of the seaon and repeat with the constant line changes. It destroys the ability to gel as a line. Rather than read and react the puck carrier has to always be recalling who his linemates are and their tendencies and react accordingly. Only miliseconds different but that can make a difference!

  115. Sierra says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    EDM looked tired.

    10 games in 17 days with never more than a day between games.

    That will run anyone ragged.

    In my pre-season rankings I have FLA making the playoffs, they aren’t as bad as their start.Like their Dcorps and top 9.If Lou stays healthy they should be close.

    That game was officially the end of the horrific schedule to start.

    One game over .500 is ok.

    The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok with the best player on the planet makes me sad.

    This team could have been so much more.

    I don’t understand your post. You start with the team looked tired, too many games with too few days off and 1 game over .500 is ok. And then you go to McDavid being ok with mediocrity.

    Is there any evidence of McDavid being ok with mediocrity?

  116. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    EDM looked tired.

    10 games in 17 days with never more than a day between games.

    That will run anyone ragged.

    In my pre-season rankings I have FLA making the playoffs, they aren’t as bad as their start.Like their Dcorps and top 9.If Lou stays healthy they should be close.

    That game was officially the end of the horrific schedule to start.

    One game over .500 is ok.

    The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok with the best player on the planet makes me sad.

    This team could have been so much more.

    #MediocrityIsADifferentKindOfHell

  117. godot10 says:

    Sierra: The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok with the best player on the planet makes me sad.

    I don’t think that is what he meant. It was poorly written. I think Woodguy meant

    “The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok, when one has the best player on the planet, makes me sad.”

  118. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    Two games ago this team was 7th overall against one of the hardest early schedules in the league. I would call that a good team – last night was bad but do we have enough to call them
    mediocre? What happens if they beat Avs and Cal? Do they remain mediocre? What constitutes mediocrity?

  119. Sierra says:

    godot10: I don’t think that is what he meant.It was poorly written.I think Woodguy meant

    “The fact that mediocrity is becoming ok, when one has the best player on the planet, makes me sad.”

    Your are correct. I completely misread Woodguy’s post. Not enough coffee intake at that point.

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