A Worried Mind

by Lowetide

One thing’s for sure: This isn’t Jesse Puljujarvi’s fault. The Edmonton Oilers were beyond bad on home ice last night, in a game they needed to win in order to stop the bleeding. It was 60 minutes of coach killer and it’s impossible to ignore this spectacle. When your best players—and make no mistake that ghastly effort involved everyone but the fourth line—play that poorly, it’s a bad day.

I’m casting about looking for a song to match the mood, and find myself drawn to a hotel room in Orillia, Ontario and a wordsmith writing about the gales of November. We’re not there yet, but it’s in the forecast.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Oilers send Puljujarvi and Yamamoto to Bakersfield; recall Marody
  • Lowetide: Oilers trade options: Dealing from strength is finally a possibility.
  • Lowetide: What happens to the Oilers when Alex Chiasson’s hot streak ends?
  • Jonathan Willis: Under the circumstances, playing in the AHL affords Jesse Puljujarvi the best chance at career redemption.
  • Lowetide: A new day dawning for Oilers prospects in Bakersfield as increased usage means greater success.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: In depth: Embattled Oilers GM Peter Chiarelli defends his record, remains bullish on the future.
  • Lowetide: Future Oilers bubbling under in Bakersfield may get a look sooner rather than later.
  • Lowetide: Oscar Klefbom takes a step forward for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Forty years later, remembering the forgotten trade that brought Wayne Gretzky to Edmonton.
  • Lowetide: Oilers reach a pressure point on defence and right wing.

GAME NOTES

  • Ordinarily I do breakdowns of all the possession numbers and shots, et cetera, but always reserve the right to pass on the opportunity. I don’t work when the Oilers don’t work.
  • There’s also lots of score effects in the possession numbers, so not much to learn. Bottom line: Connor, Oscar, Nuge, Leon, Cam, not one of the key players had a good game. If I had to pick a first star it would be Zack Kassian. Second star? Mikko Koskinen.
  • Apologies. You can grab the info at NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.
  • Ty Rattie scored a goal, he’s up to 8, 2-2-4 now and 1.77 per 60 scoring 5-on-5. That number ranks him No. 4 among Oilers forwards.
  • Cam Talbot was poor. I’m normally upbeat on the goalers but he wasn’t good from the start.
  • Connor McDavid deserves linemates of a quality Nathan MacKinnon enjoys. One day he’s going to wake up and be extremely pissed with this organization. That’ll be a bad day.
  • Ryan Nugent-Hopkins was not good. You can look through all seven years of this blog and find very few times I’ve been overly critical. I appreciate his game very much. He was off.
  • Zack Kassian was fantastic, and the entire fourth line easily the best thing going for this club.

OILERS AFTER 17

  • Oilers in October 20156-11-0, 12 points; goal differential -10
  • Oilers in October 2016: 9-7-1, 19 points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in October 2017: 6-9-2, 14 points; goal differential -13
  • Oilers in October 2018: 8-8-1, 17 points; goal differential -8

The four game losing streak has coincided with a blip for the 2016 team, but in the following five games the 2016-17 playoff group went 3-1-1 to correct the course. Will this team do the same? Not with an effort like last night.

OILERS IN NOVEMBER

  • Oilers in November 2015: 2-4-0, four points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in November 2016: 2-3-1, five points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in November 2017: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in November 2018: 2-4-0, four points; goal differential -6

Oilers this November remind me of that 2015 team to be honest, kind of careening between individual brilliance and collective malaise. We’re at a point now where it’s pretty freaking serious for the head coach, so Tuesday is a big game.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN NOVEMBER

  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Detroit, Washington, Tampa Bay, Florida  (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 1-3-0)
  • At home to: Colorado, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: San Jose, Anaheim, Los Angeles (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Dallas, Los Angeles  (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games 
  • Current results: 2-4-0, 4 points in 6 games

Off the rails now, the ‘expected’ results were taken out back and shot last night around midnight. At this point, it’s probably fair to suggest the two Los Angeles games are winnable. After that? Depends on whether or not the Oilers decide it’s a good night to show up. Edmonton has gone 0-2, 6-2-1, 2-4-0 to start the season. Not much consistency there.

FIRE THE COACH

History tells us the coach is the first to get the pink slip. I have argued Todd McLellan doesn’t have the horses, but at some point that’s not going to fly. The Oilers rarely fire coaches in the middle of a season (Bryan Watson, Ted Green, George Burnett, Dallas Eakins). Todd McLellan has coached the Oilers for 13 playoff games, don’t know that he’ll get another one.

I don’t think this roster is good enough and that’s on the general manager. Four years now into Connor McDavid’s career and nothing rhymes. That’s on management, in my opinion. I’m thrilled with the progress in procurement, that is going to pay dividends. I’m not sure Peter Chiarelli or Todd McLellan are going to be around to see their dream come to fruition.

I don’t think the losing goes on much longer without a change. The Montreal game is a monster.

WHAT ABOUT KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY

It’s the right thing to do, but may cost the general manager his job. I wouldn’t be shocked to see one giant trade here, something designed to shock the system. What does it look like? Maybe it’s Tanner Pearson or Mats Zuccarello, maybe it’s Tuukka Rask. Expect the startling.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

I’ll be on the round table of the Dustin Nielson show at 9 this morning, TSN1260. Jamo will join me, we’ll talk CFL, Oilers and other things! At 10, it’s the Lowdown, scheduled to appear:

  • Andy McNamara, TSN4Downs. We’ll chat Cleveland Browns, Philadelphia Eagles, Tennessee Titans and more. Crazy football weekend.
  • Darrin Bauming, TSN1290 Winnipeg. The Blue Bombers are moving on, after a big win in Regina yesterday.
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. What’s the next step for the Oilers?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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npanciroli

Have to turf the GM and Coach at the same time here so that there isn’t another terrible trade. Any GM out there that we think can get us out of this cap mess and maybe win a trade?

Wilde

I wonder if, this season, Ty Rattie will match Jesse Puljujarvi’s lofty 2.86/60 number from when he was a (“young”) 18 playing with McDavid (and shooting 0%) in 84 minutes.

Easier to hit but still a ways away is Jesse’s 256 minutes at 1.87/60 from when he was a (“young”) 19 years-old (and shooting two-something percent).

I know, we can’t expect everyone who plays with McDavid to score as well as Yessa.

Most people probably missed a piece I published yesterday morning but didn’t link here until after the game last night:

http://petropraxis.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-edmonton-oilers-could-continue-to.html

(It’s about trying to find the missing goals the McDavid line should be scoring.)

Here’s the comment I left describing it last night:

Wilde: The surface problem being investigated is that Connor McDavid’s 5v5 scoring is still not up to speed. I chop up the sample of his ice-time into the forward variations (Rattie, Caggiula, Yamamoto), identify where the shooting percentage dives and discover a problem not only in results but process. Then, I replicate the exercise with the defense pairings’ ice-time with Connor McDavid and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, and isolate another systemic issue that could potentially continue to plague their opportunities and suppress the 5v5 goal generation with 97 on the ice that this team leans on so heavily.

Also, I dip into an issue where this Oilers team has some hidden lost value: where other teams (and even Oilers teams of the past – including last year’s team) have their most deadly offensive minutes, this squad currently doesn’t – in a counterintuitive way.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Just deleted a Connor McDavid trade scenario which has been bouncing around my brain all day.

Clearly the team has its fanbase (me anyway) close to the edge.

I need brain mouthwash.

npanciroli

Chelios is a Dinosaur,

I’ve always wondered what a generational talent would return in a trade. Not that you would ever win the trade just interesting to ponder.

The Trade Guy

Quenneville? Or is he washed now?

who

It’s gonna be an interesting month.
If we see a few more efforts like that does Chia fire the coach?
I don’t think he wants to, because that will really start the clock ticking on his own tenure here. If another coach can’t win with this team then how does Chia look?
And there’s really nothing Chia can do to fix this roster without sacrificing the future. Even if he wanted to sacrifice prospects or draft picks he doesn’t have the cap space to take on another contract. I hope.
Chias only hope is that some of the youngsters arrive as productive NHL players before he loses his job. It’s gonna be close, too close if you’re Chia.

innercitysmytty

I would start Koskinnen against the Habs. If he plays poorly does anyone think Montoya should be called up?

ArmchairGM

I wonder if Pysyk is a target, he was held out of last night’s game even though cleared to play.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

Wilde,

Melvis,

In a discussion with my SO during the final PP last night I mentioned something similar.

This echoes the efforts from last season, success once tasted is so enchanting, instead of outworking and outskating the oppo it becomes we need to wait for “the right play” to appear, no need to force things and have it comes back against us.

Except the right play very rarely appears, it usually opens up after hard work and some chaos.

The team is in coast mode again, who knows maybe TMac has lost the room and what’s needed is another hard ass like Quenneville to come in and shake things up and surely he can identify with Millenials right? But as Oilers fans we know how that will turn out, give us three years, we’ll break ole Joel and he’ll scurry off to retirement faster than you can say “Leon has demanded a trade.”

I don’t think things are that dire though, Colorado was on a 5 game skid and despite knowing that they are a deptheless one line team, Connor and Co spotted them a lead 30 seconds in, ouch. In fact the top line was outright bad last night. Hey no big deal, it happens and there is no doubt those gents will bounce back in a big way.

Cam Talbot has got to be nearing some sort of record for 1st shot goals in a calendar year. Folks have there own whipping posts and mine is certainly becoming Dadbot. I really really really want to cheer hard for him but when you give up the first shot and then spend the next two periods dropping a full 3 seconds before your next shot it makes it oh so very hard.

I really hope its just a couple game “thing” and that he’s not mad that the Finnish giant is breathing down on him. It would be so disappointing if this is a case of the mopes gone wild.

Finally, we are seeing the league turn of “speed speed speed” being reflected in the standings. I’ve always thought that the now 18 month old mantra of “speed speed speed” was and is nothing more than a generational turnover in talent without any fundamental re-thinks happening. The chaos, fun and tempo will be ground out of these players as they mature, same as it ever was. In the meantime we get to enjoy a standings race like we see right now. If you aren’t Tampa or Nashville you’re in a precarious spot, win three and you’re leading the division, lose three straight (or 4 gulp) and you’re fighting with LA for last.

Tough spot to be in for a coach, luckily everyone is at home all snug in their beds for the next week. That’s a good thing in my mind, it’ll allow the sicknesses to melt away, the injuries to heal and more time to work on those pesky details that are costing games.

Tighten up against Montreal tomorrow and work out the kinks through Friday.

The real games begin on Saturday evening.

ArmchairGM

innercitysmytty:
I would start Koskinnen against the Habs. If he plays poorly does anyone think Montoya should be called up?

I think Koskinen has an opportunity to become the starter as of right now. If it works, could they trade Talbot for a good backup and another useful piece?

ArmchairGM

SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!: maybe TMac has lost the room

Maybe the players are pissed about how JP has been treated?

franksterra

Mgmt and coaching here is like me wrestling with my kids about ‘screen time’. When I was a kid you stopped watching TV when Rocket Robin Hood ended and The Edge of Night (or whatever) started. My kids now get locked into endless loops of YouTube and Netflix launching the next episode or clip. Jussa sec jussa sec dad, this is my favourite, its almost over, this is the one where they give cats baths, ad nauseum.

There needs to be a line. Having Connor is like a screentime drug for mgmt- jussa sec jussa sec, Rattie will help, garrison, Brodz, Looch is ‘sposed to be better.

Nicholson needs to call time on the screentime and get the org off the Connor drug.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

npanciroli,

Well the thought experiment begins with the caviar that the entire front office is cleared, Chia, OBC and anyone in between. The thought experiment is only worthwhile that way.

But today it has been bugging me: perhaps the only solution is the unimaginable one. Could there be a scorched earth scenario where we set the team up to be competitive and exciting and deep for 15 years in return? Possible to contend here and there but not guaranteed any cups? If so, is it worth it?

That was basically my post.

It’s funny cause there isn’t really a comp. Gretzky doesn’t work.

who

I think they are in tough tomorrow night as well.
Montreal is a fast team up front and the Oilers really struggle against speed.
Hopefully they can get enough pressure on the Habs defense to keep the puck in the offensive zone most of the night.

dustrock

Talbot is terrible. Eakins was partially sunk by terribad goalering, can happen to McLellan too.

Chiarelli has boxed himself in. I agree he can’t really blow up the team without sacrificing the future but even then, the hard cap gives him few options.

Who could he possibly trade that would free up cap space that teams would actually want?

dustrock

Just your daily reminder we have 4 more years of Lucic.

Think this team needs to ride out 2 more years of mediocrity. Don’t see there’s another choice.

jtblack

npanciroli:
Chelios is a Dinosaur,

I’ve always wondered what a generational talent would return in a trade. Not that you would ever win the trade just interesting to ponder.

McDavid trade talk is Non sense.

But for your exercise, see the Lindros Haul the Nordiques got

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Ok fuck it. In the spirit of open inquiry. You send 97 away you send Lucic with him.

Can you turn that into: 2 30+ goal scoring wingers, 1top pairing dman, depth pieces to shore up the third line and third pairing? Maybe a couple high draft picks? You might even have some money left to buy a better goalie.

Is that worth it?

I could be way off.

I have no clue.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

jtblack,

2 cups for Colorado.

This would be Lindros on crack.

anjinsan

McLellan was overskating his better players. Unsustainable.

If the effort was lacking, it’s some combination of coaching and team leaders. But if the root cause is overskating the better players, and it is, then at some point the better players just can’t handle it. In the first part of the season the better players showed they can force wins against the best…great for them, but unsustainable going forward.

The real root cause is Chiarelli. And I don’t buy it’s the old boys because Chiarelli got the President’s title in addition to GM so he could run his own show. Well, his show sucks in terms of high end talent, high end contracts, and team vision. Small ball yes. Big ball pure incompetence — no business being an NHL GM, poor GM IQ. Given the amazing chorus of fan rejection to the Chiarelli puff/PR/party line piece in the Atlantic, knowledge of the root cause is widespread.

jtblack

“I don’t work when the Oilers don’t work.”

and this is WHY I Love LT. Well played

TMac should have been relieved after 3 games of 5-0 losses at home last year. The worst trick the human mind can play is “It will get better”.

This team is not cinstructed well enough. BUT more importantly Todd has been unable to get close to maximizing the group.

Dadbot has had 1 good year. He,s avg to below avg and we should accept that. He was brought in to Stabilize the losition and he did that He was never expectef to be Excellent. 2016 / 17 was an Outlier.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

It’s totaly the last thing I want to see and would hurt like hell.

Problematic comparison but like how since solving climate change requires a transformation of how we even perceive ourselves and our society in totality, we instead ride into oblivion.

The thing is, I also want better for McDavid.

Wilde

Chelios is a Dinosaur:
Ok fuck it. In the spirit of open inquiry. You send 97 away you send Lucic with him.

Can you turn that into: 2 30+ goal scoring wingers, 1top pairing dman, depth pieces to shore up the third line and third pairing?Maybe a couple high draft picks? You might even have some money left to buy a better goalie.

Is that worth it?

I could be way off.

I have no clue.

delete immediately

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Wilde,

For the purposes of what, exactly?

I’ll delete what I want to delete not when I’m asked by someone else. Unless that someone else is lowetide, and seeing as I haven’t attacked anyone or anything like that I don’t see the problem. I know this feels like the dark ages of Oiler Nation and all but..!

Wilde

Chelios is a Dinosaur:
Wilde,

For the purposes of what, exactly?

before the raining hellfire of the hockey gods comes down on us all

SilverStreak

A few thoughts……

1. Have we won and looked good wining since Bouchard`s last game ?

2. Nuge is playing hurt for the last 3 or 4 games….hip flexor I think. Very pissed off as well…I actually heard him scream the F bomb at a ref last night….and I`m in Red Deer. We need at least one more puck=mover type on the D….if we can’t afford a bright shiny one, we have two on the farm.

3. Tell Sekera his leg needs a lot more time….time in a warm climate….months and months more healing time, and use that 5.5 to plug some holes.

3. Todd Nelson is in Dallas.

Psyche

With one line I’m listening to ole Gordon chant about the Fitzgerald. What a beautiful way to spend my morning.

Had a tremendous late afternoon with the Bomber win over the Riders (spit). That was immediately followed by the Oilers disheartening performance. I may need to spend more time watching the Jets, much more enjoyable.

For awhile there, the Oilers were entertaining beyond McDavid. That didn’t last long. One of the sport stations need to do a “McDavid in 30” for the morning after an Oiler game. Now that I would watch!

Daylight Katy come on…

Wilde

Also, here’s the top-5 players from the 2015 draft class that are outside the NHL, in (Manny Perry’s) NHLe:

Kirill Kaprizov – 53

Denis Gurianov – 49

Cooper Marody – 47

Cameron Hebig – 46

Jonathan Davidsson – 45

jtblack

Chelios is a Dinosaur:
jtblack,

2 cups for Colorado.

This would be Lindros on crack.

Exactly. THEY got an enormous return for Lindros

HugThePost

Nobody knows better how easily a career for a superstar can end prematurely than 97’s agent.

#4’s job is to maximize #97’s wants out of his career and I’d imagine that to include money, maybe fame, but probably right up there is Cups.

Neither of them are stupid people………I’d bet they have spoken at least once already about what 97’s future looks like and explored a future away from this shitshow.

I think we’d all agree 97 deserves better than the Oilers.

J-Bo

The sky is not falling. Bad stretch though. Chiarelli could certainly make some trades without sacrificing the future. It would affect the future but not sacrifice it. A trade for a top 6 winger and or right side number 4 is possible. LT waxed poetic about it the other day on the Athletic. That is the clear play here if possible. Don’t fire the coach. I cant see Quenneville jumping in right now or the team doing better under one of the assistants. Wait for the right trade and be patient in the meantime. Also, if you are thinking Koskinene could/should be the starter I might think again. Possible with some good play he could push Talbot, but at this point Talbot is 1000% a better bet to turn his play around then Koskinen all of a sudden being an excellent starter. Keep calm, it will turn around.

stevebergeron97

Can we please never speak of a Connor trade ever again!?!?!? I’m at a loss for words this morning. How long does Connor put up with this? It would be abseloutly devastating to this franchise and city to see Connor asking for an out. Chia has dug a hole and I’m not sure he can find anything resembling top 6 talent to surround Connor and Leon with. Success hinges on some of these prospects to develop into top 6 players. With Jones, Lagesson, Bear and Bouchard pushing in the next couple of years, does that make one of Klefbom/Nurse expendable? I fear for a Chiarelli special in the near future… (clenched bum)

Glovjuice

Chelios is a Dinosaur:
jtblack,

2 cups for Colorado.

This would be Lindros on crack.

Didn’t they get Roy for essentially free though.

lenko

Looks like more than Jesse and Kailer need to be sent down! Oh well there’s always McD video highlights one can watch.

Glovjuice

Wilde: before the raining hellfire of the hockey gods comes down on us all

They Are here…

GCW_69

“History tells us the coach is the first to get the pink slip. I have argued Todd McLellan doesn’t have the horses, but at some point that’s not going to fly. …
I don’t think this roster is good enough and that’s on the general manager.”

I think that’s letting the coach off the hook. Some of the erosion of talent is because he couldn’t get the best out of players (e.g. Eberle, Pouliot), can’t develop players (e.g. JP) and he places value on things that don’t drive results anymore (e.g. Drake, Russell), is stubborn beyond belief and apparently doesn’t communicate well with players in an era where good communication skills are table stakes.

Chiarelli hasn’t spoon fed him like Wilson did, and the roster construction is poor, but I doubt anyone could produce any evidence TMac’s gotten the most out of the rosters he’s been given this season and last.

Woodguy v2.0

Oiler Goal Share after 17 games (8-8-1)

Even strength (5v5, 4v4, 3v3):
McDavid On Ice 15-11 (58%)
McDavid Off Ice 15-23 (39%)
Net EV -4

Special Teams (PP+shorties for – PK + shorties against):
14-16
Net ST -2

Empty Net: 2-4
Net EN -2

Net Goal Differential -8

Analysis: being below 40% with the best player off the ice is something that the Hall Oilers did regularly…….. Man

Chelios is a Dinosaur

Discussing something doesn’t will it into being. If that were the case Taylor Hall would still be an Oiler and Godot would be coaching.

But if you think him and Orr aren’t looking at each other wondering how long they am put up with this then you’re being naive.

SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo!

I wonder if Avalanche fans were writing posts trading Mackinnon, Rantanen and Landeskog before they won last night.

After all Colorado was on a 5 game skid, they had one lucky year sandwiched in between horrible mediocrity, have uneven goaltending and that one-trick pony Barrie patrolling the blue.

Man those guys sure deserve more than that don’t they?

Look at how compact everything is standings wise and watch some other teams play.

Aside from Nashville and Tampa (and nope I’m not widening the gap beyond those two) there is a whole lot of “huh” in the league right now. I’ve recently watched Ottawa storm back and put the boot to Vegas after being down 3 heading into the 3rd, watched Montreal pop off and sink low at the opposite times of Price being good or bad, Toronto look like a cup contender or get ground to a pulp like our Oilers when they play structured teams and seen Calgary having to put dramatic multi-goal 3rd period comebacks together or else they’d be fishing with LA. All of that just in the last week or ten days.

If one believes the Oilers are the only unbalanced, undisciplined, un-composed team I disagree vehemently.

Maybe it’ll correct and we’ll see teams establish themselves or maybe now that the generational turnover is in full swing league-wide things will be a bit more wide open this year…

I wouldn’t write any obituaries or death-marches quite yet. Maybe in a few weeks but not quite yet. Wayyyyyy to much variance in the sample size to draw conclusions especially in the lacklustre Pacific Division.

stephen sheps

Chelios is a Dinosaur,

I think he said delete immediately partially tounge in cheek but partially because perish the thought of trading McDavid. It’s a horrible thing to even consider. But then again I’m not wilde so I could be way off base.

That said please let’s not even start talking about the idea of trading Connor. The Lindros haul was exceptional but that wasn’t in a cap league. Different times.

Craig Zonit

Tabernac Saturday against the godless Flames claimed an Oilers career last year in Brossoit.

Could it do the same for McLellan? That’s appointment viewing, win or lose.

Is a young, innovative coach an impossible ask? Might be more likely if they’re still paying Todd.

frjohnk

Ive said all along that this team does not have the horses. That is the reason McClellan has played McDavid, Drai, Nuge and Klefbom well over 20 minutes for many games. Way more than most other teams top players. After McDavid, Drai and Nuge, we dont have any other top 6 forwards. Oilers have to hope that a bottom 6er goes on a heater ( like Chiasson, Cags) squeeze them for all they can get and when they cold, hope that some other bottom 6 player can go on a heater and stick them in the top 6.

As for the team, they played over their heads during the tough schedule. But have underachieved in the last 4 games. I think the team is somewhere in the middle.

I picked 97 points. Still think ( well, at least hope) they get around there. But that was with McDavid, Drai, Klefbom and Talbot having monster years. The first 3 have been very good for most of the year so far, but Talbot has been wobbly, but it should be mentioned that the D is not good. So many clean looks for opposing forwards.

Maybe Todd gets punted, but Im not sure Quennville can do much more with this roster. Quenneville had trouble squeezing wins from a Chicago lineup that like Edmonton have a few high end pieces but after that just does not have the horses.

Cant do anything drastic, team has to development their young players properly and hope they can be impact players down the road.

I have no doubt Oilers will go on a winning streak shortly.

who

SilverStreak:
A few thoughts……

1. Have we won and looked good wining since Bouchard`s last game?

2. Nuge is playing hurt for the last 3 or 4 games….hip flexor I think. Very pissed off as well…I actually heard him scream the F bomb at a ref last night….and I`m in Red Deer. We need at least one more puck=mover type on the D….if we can’tafford a bright shiny one, we have two on the farm.

3. Tell Sekera his leg needs a lot more time….time in a warm climate….months and months more healing time, and use that 5.5 to plug some holes.

3. Todd Nelson is in Dallas.

Number 1 is a non starter.
Bouchard was not a difference maker when he was playing. He may not be a difference maker next year either. Expecting a 19 year old, other than McDavid, to lift this team is damaged Oiler thinking.
Number 2 is plausible.
Nuge and McDavid have both looked off the last few games.
Number 3 ain’t gonna happen.
Sekera will be back when he’s healthy. The question is, how will he look when he is healthy?
Number 4 is interesting to consider.
This team ain’t winning the cup this year. Would a guy like Nelson be able to nurture some of the young talent currently in Bakersfield? Maybe.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

stephen sheps:
Chelios is a Dinosaur,

I think he said delete immediately partially tounge in cheek but partially because perish the thought of trading McDavid. It’s a horrible thing to even consider. But then again I’m not wilde so I could be way off base.

That said please let’s not even start talking about the idea of trading Connor. The Lindros haul was exceptional but that wasn’t in a cap league. Different times.

Yeah I replied before I saw the measured first reply. My bad.

I love Connor McDavid. But the “please don’t discuss” nature of the reaction is also a bit odd and causes me some concern. That said, I won’t.

I’ll just prep a folder on my desktop and be ready to paste for July 2019…Joking!

SwedishPoster

I assume the game on tuesday has McLellan’s job at stake. Last night was like a culmination of everything wrong with the Oilers in his tenure. Slow start. Bad D. Worse goalering. Overly simplistic strategy to get the puck up ice. No visible strategy at all once in the offensive zone, well except board battle, board battle, sloppy cycle, throw puck on net for a faux HD chance in close. No wonder the 4th line looks the best with that strategy. Stars tying themselves into knots trying to win the game on their own, increasingly frustrated. Dreadful special teams.

Not all of this is on McLellan but the other option is a big ass trade and it’s really difficult to know if you’re getting value since most pieces worth a damn have only had McLellan as a coach in the NHL as mature nhlers if at all. I would really want to see them with a different coach before trying to trade them.

Chia probably gets another coach, he shouldn’t really, but if he can’t find someone who can make this group jive he has to go too. And if/once he goes it has to be a full clean out. Can’t have all those skeletons hanging out in the dinosaur graveyard of hockey execs that is the Oilers front office.

I usually don’t throw logs on these losing streak fires. But man something’s gotta give. This team is torture.

Fire. The. Shopping centre.

VOR

https://www.nhlnumbers.com/2016/06/28/the-end-of-the-eric-lindros-trade-chain

A very detailed analysis of the Lindros trade. As the author says it was a trade off right from day one because nobody got the best player. Lindros and Forsberg were both great players. But then it becomes bizarre as assets acquired in the Lindros deal are used in whole or in part to build a series of great Colorado teams.

Gret99zky

jtblack:
2016 / 17 was an Outlier.

Absolutely it was. But there are some who will argue the contrary. Amazing.

HugThePost:
I think we’d all agree 97 deserves better than the Oilers.

#freeMcDavid

stephen sheps

Chelios is a Dinosaur: I love Connor McDavid. But the “please don’t discuss” nature of the reaction is also a bit odd and causes me some concern. That said, I won’t.

For me it brings back painful memories of so many other Oilers who were somewhat driven out of town over the years. I know you love him. We all do. It just breaks my heart to even consider it.

Fair point re: the hockey gods though. If we could will things to exist, how many cups would this team have won? How many Gretzkys would never have been sold?

*sigh

Hopefully things will turn around.

The week in Yak:

Did not play this week. SKA plays today sometime. If there is an update I will edit this post.

This has been your weekly Yak.

Updated week in Yak. SKA is currently up 1-0; Yak with the goal. Now up to 8 on the season.

Chelios is a Dinosaur

SwedishPoster,

Bang on, but your laundry list of weak coaching items left off spiritless post game presser.

I don’t know if it matters but I want some evidence he himself can accept some blame and also that it bothers him.

€√¥£€^$

SwedishPoster:

Fire. The. Shopping centre.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!