A Trip to Forestall

by Lowetide

His face-off percentage was in the ditch, the possession numbers a calamity and the shot share worthy of an investigation. I loved every minute of it. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins can forecheck like a demon and yesterday afternoon Ken Hitchcock decided to release the hounds. Edmonton didn’t win the game, but the coach and players created a template for those grinding teams like the Anaheim Ducks…..and the old timey Dallas Stars.

The team lost the game late, but showed they can in fact play a button-down style and gain points on the road. That’s going to be key, along with an airlift of players who are more capable of playing that kind of role. In the coming days, expect a recall of Jesse Puljujarvi (that isn’t news, everyone is saying it), a more prominent role for Jujhar Khaira, and more sequences where old men say “that Nugent-Hopkins fellow reminds me of Dave Keon.” Music!

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 Prospect winter 2018: Tyler Benson.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Third line suits the eye of new Oilers coach Ken Hitchcock.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Can Ken Hitchcock save Milan Lucic’s Oilers career?
  • Lowetide: A shot in the dark: What are the Oilers getting in Chris Wideman?
  • New Justin Bourne: Why switching coaches provides short-term benefits for an NHL team.
  • Lowetide: With not enough talent, and outside the playoffs, Todd McLellan’s Oilers career ends where it began.
  • Jonathan Willis: The Edmonton Oilers get their 2018-19 quarter pole report cards.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 2 Prospect winter 2018: Kailer Yamamoto.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 1 Prospect winter 2018: Evan Bouchard.

OILERS AFTER 22

  • Oilers in 20157-14-1, 15 points; goal differential -12
  • Oilers in 2016: 12-8-2, 26 points; goal differential +10
  • Oilers in 2017: 8-12-2, 18 points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in 2018: 10-10-2, 22 points; goal differential -9

The 2018 Oilers remain the second best McDavid team, but four points behind the north star. I don’t think you can ever complain about a point from the Ducks in Anaheim but that game was there for the Oilers. I do think we can credit Edmonton for playing hard and coming within a whisker of a massive win. So close, so close and yet so far.

OILERS IN NOVEMBER

  • Oilers in November 2015: 3-6-2, eight points; goal differential -6
  • Oilers in November 2016: 4-6-1, nine points; goal differential -3
  • Oilers in November 2017: 4-6-1, nine points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in November 2018: 4-6-1, nine points; goal differential -7

November has been sweet hell four seasons running, beginning with Connor McDavid getting hurt November 3, 2015. Now, I’m going to talk a little bit here about strength of schedule before we hit the next segment. Edmonton should be able to post some positive results by the end of the month, maybe even ending at a point per game. It would be less than hoped but more than feared.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM NOVEMBER

  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Detroit, Washington, Tampa Bay, Florida  (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 1-3-0)
  • At home to: Colorado, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: San Jose, Anaheim, Los Angeles (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • At home to: Dallas, Los Angeles  (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 8-5-1, 17 points in 14 games 
  • Current results: 4-6-1, 9 points in 11 games

Edmonton has a chance to end this month with the first bit of momentum in all of November and it took a coaching change. Lots of upset fans about last night’s result, and you want to win that game for sure. Still, I’m impressed Hitchcock has been able to make this team more difficult to play against and more responsible in less than a week. The next step is more grindhouse players.

DEFENSE LAST NIGHT

  • Nurse-Russell were 14-5 in 14:07, rocking chair afternoon with most things going in a good direction. 10-2 shots, no goals, 2-0 HDSC. Were 7-1 in 5:21 with 97, meaning 7-6 without the captain. Part of the problem is passing, both men need to improve in this area. Went 10-3 in 6:27 against Rakell-Getzlaf-Kase.
  • Klefbom-Larsson went 21-18 in 21:07, 12-10 shots, 0-0 goals and 2-3 HDSC. Went 15-11 with McDavid, meaning 6-7 without. Faced Cogliano-Kesler-Sherwood 11-12 in eight minutes. Klefbom got on the wrong side of everything on the Ritchie goal, it was a melee after the puck came in from the blueline but the entire net front was wide open and Larsson was doing the heavy work right side before Getzlaf’s pass.
  • Gravel-Benning were 7-12 in 13:19, 2-4 shots, 0-3 HDSC and no goals. Gravel made several impressive defensive plays, he’s coming on now and solidifying his roster spot. Benning’s game is regressing to the point where things he’s good at naturally are no longer consistent. Sometimes a new coach’s arrival and change in philosophy will challenge specific players and make it difficult to adjust. Pairing was 3-1 with McDavid, 4-11 without him. Were 5-6 in 6:43 against the Getzlaf line.
  • Mikko Koskinen stopped 24 of 26, .923. Made some outstanding saves.
  • NaturalStattrick and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian were 11-4 in 10:52, 6-2 shots and 2-0 HDSC. The goal against came with Edmonton one skater short (empty net) and Brodziak had a fantastic chance to score to put the game out of reach. The line was solid at 5-on-5, up against Marcus Pettersson and Brandon Montour the trio went 7-3 in 6:22. Lots of anger about this line, can’t understand why. Edmonton had the puck miles from worry while at 5-on-5 and this group on the ice. Did we not just talk about Devereaux-Dowd-Laraque? Now, there’s no way they should be out there with one minute to go, but that’s not on the players.
  • Caggiula-McDavid-Draisaitl went 18-12 in 15:40, 9-6 shots, no goals, 1-1 HDSC. That’s a low number of high danger chances, the Ducks absolutely mauled McDavid without any hesitation. Brutal. As long as the Ducks get that kind of leeway, the Oilers are stuck. Went 21-13 against Manson-Larsson, 10-9 against the Kesler line. Leon was not sharp with his passes, the regulation goal starting with an errant needle threading. I don’t blame him on the OT goal, a line change left him chasing. You’d like him to catch it but that’s a penalty because it leaves the defending team at a disadvantage. Players can’t make those calls.
  • Khaira-Rattie went 6-6 in 6:39, with Cooper Marody (2-4 in 3:14) and McDavid (5-1 in 2:40). If the Oilers recall JP, Khaira probably moves to center. However, if 97 is going to double team, maybe the wingers on the fourth line are better off than Nuge’s wingers.
  • Spooner-Nuge-Chiasson are a strange brew, going 4-10 in 13:45 and that’s horrible. Don’t care. Nuge was outstanding on the forecheck and PK, and Chiasson also showed well. Spooner is trying, he had a backhand chance, but needs to start helping soon.

Edmonton needs some help on the No. 2 line. Jesse Puljujarvi and Kailer Yamamoto are the available internal pieces not currently on the roster. The entire Oilers’ brass was in Ontario last night (it’s basically Los Angeles, the size of Saskatoon, but has the 15th largest airport in the USA) to watch the young talent, with an eye on Jesse. I would make the lines:

  • Drake Caggiula—Connor McDavid—Leon Draisaitl
  • Alex Chiasson—Ryan Nugent-Hopkins—Jesse Puljujarvi
  • Ryan Spooner—Jujhar Khaira—Ty Rattie
  • Milan Lucic—Kyle Brodziak—Zack Kassian

You can say it’s too soon to bring Puljujarvi back, but the absence of alternatives clears the mind. When Rieder gets back, Chiasson can return to RW on the No. 3 line.

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Mannificent

workaroundaccount,

Yes, that would help. It would initially lower the goal save % – they never used to be at .930+, I dont why it should be now. The NHL needs to get some balance between offence and defence being the way to win a hockey game. It is all defence right now, as you can see from most playoff games – which is incredibly boring.
The NFL, NBA and MLB have all taken measures to improve offence, it makes the game more entertaining. The NHL is like the dinasaur league – they don’t get it.

LMHF#1

Glovjuice: I predict no NHL career like Lander.At his age – no chance to materially improve skating now.

Having both coached powerskating and worked with good power skating coaches – it is completely reasonable improve technique and power at most any point save for already amazing technical skaters.

workaroundaccount

Glovjuice: How does bigger nets increase scoring chances, though?

Can’t play a collapsing style when perimeter shots are a legitimate threat.

Glovjuice

Mannificent:
BornInAGretzkyJersey,

Making the rink larger won’t help much because you still have to go to the net and score on the same size net. There aren’t higher scores in any league with large rinks.
Making the net larger is not asinine, though, because goalies used to be 5”9’,while now we have 6”7’ Goalies with as you said, “Comically oversized equipment”.
We are never going back to 5”9’ Goalies so the net has to change. It used to be that the best wingers in the league could occasionally score while flying down the wing and taking a slapshot just after crossing the blue line, such as Lafleur, Hull, Bossy, Kurri, etc.A goalie now would be embarrassed If he let in a goal like that.
As a result, all coaching is now focussed on defence since now you can sit on one goal lead.This is what has to change to improve the excitement of the game.
I suggest 6”3’ by 4”2’ nets – you won’t even see the difference, from the seats, but it would dramatically increase scoring and change coaching towards offence – all better for the game.
Just my opinion.

How does bigger nets increase scoring chances, though?

tollen77

Pescador,

Works with my son’s TimBits practice!

Mannificent

BornInAGretzkyJersey,

Making the rink larger won’t help much because you still have to go to the net and score on the same size net. There aren’t higher scores in any league with large rinks.
Making the net larger is not asinine, though, because goalies used to be 5”9’, while now we have 6”7’ Goalies with as you said, “Comically oversized equipment”.
We are never going back to 5”9’ Goalies so the net has to change. It used to be that the best wingers in the league could occasionally score while flying down the wing and taking a slapshot just after crossing the blue line, such as Lafleur, Hull, Bossy, Kurri, etc. A goalie now would be embarrassed If he let in a goal like that.
As a result, all coaching is now focussed on defence since now you can sit on one goal lead. This is what has to change to improve the excitement of the game.
I suggest 6”3’ by 4”2’ nets – you won’t even see the difference, from the seats, but it would dramatically increase scoring and change coaching towards offence – all better for the game.
Just my opinion.

texmex

LA – worst team in the league, just lost to Vancouver ending their 8 game losing streak and playing the second of B2B games against the oilers tonight.

This game terrifies me.

Professor Q

Have to love going to TSN online to listen to some 1260, and the first article being,

“Rakell lifts Ducks over Oilers in OT: What happened in Oilers collapse?”

Just seemed an odd spin to me.

Professor Q

OriginalPouzar: The facts are the decades of play on the big ice that show it doesn’t lead to higher offence.

McDavid has played on the bigger ice at the World Championships and, no, he wasn’t able to use the bigger ice to his advantage even with his speed.Yes, he was still awesome but no more awesome than on the normal NHL ice surface.

I believe the answer lies in between the sizes. As do many hockey professionals, even ones you wouldn’t imagine would. Or at least different imaginings of sizing than most are used to.

Less injuries and more offence. More bang for your buck.

OriginalPouzar

digger50: Sorry, we have heard opinions. There has never been any factual information that I know of but would be interested if it’s out there.

I’m for larger ice surface.

As the game continues to get faster, players larger and more skilled it is only logical they need more room or they are just running into each other.

3×3 or 4×4 is all the evidence needed.

Factually, only one thing stopping larger ice surface and that is money. Maybe net lost due to less seats. I’m certain we will get there one day.

Edit: ha, wish I read the rest of the thread first! I’m late to the party.

Still, I see Connor type players doing much better with more room. And I like to see more possession rather than this ping pong game we get sometimes just turning the puck over back and forth.

The facts are the decades of play on the big ice that show it doesn’t lead to higher offence.

McDavid has played on the bigger ice at the World Championships and, no, he wasn’t able to use the bigger ice to his advantage even with his speed. Yes, he was still awesome but no more awesome than on the normal NHL ice surface.

OriginalPouzar

Glovjuice: I predict no NHL career like Lander.At his age – no chance to materially improve skating now.

He’s currently 21.

His skating likely doesn’t need to improve materially to be a winger in the NHL but likely needs to improve to be a center.

Ribs

Reja,

I’ll give him a fair shake, too.

At this point it tops out at 10 games for me 🙂 .

Reja

Ribs: That’s in line with what I see. Vanilla for Vanilla. Strome has more potential, but didn’t move the needle. Now we have Spooner, who doesn’t appear to know that the needle exists. *sigh*

As for Wideman, I hear a collective “Mehhh” from anyone I’ve paid attention to. Not expecting much at this point.

Spooner came within inches against Calgary of pulling a Gretzky and scoring directly off the faceoff. He had a few good chances against the California teams as well the man has some talent. I think hitch will give him a fair shake and see what he’s got.

Ribs

Gerta Rauss:
Ribs,

Spooner’s been as vanilla as Strome, but it’s early, and I saw the first signs of life from Spooner in the ANA game with a couple of rushes (not much, I’ll concede)

I have a hard time getting worked up about the loss of Strome. I didn’t think he was worth the $3.1M we gave him and would have rather taken a modest pick for him at the draft and taken the cap space

That’s in line with what I see. Vanilla for Vanilla. Strome has more potential, but didn’t move the needle. Now we have Spooner, who doesn’t appear to know that the needle exists. *sigh*

As for Wideman, I hear a collective “Mehhh” from anyone I’ve paid attention to. Not expecting much at this point.

Gerta Rauss

Ribs,

Spooner’s been as vanilla as Strome, but it’s early, and I saw the first signs of life from Spooner in the ANA game with a couple of rushes (not much, I’ll concede)

I have a hard time getting worked up about the loss of Strome. I didn’t think he was worth the $3.1M we gave him and would have rather taken a modest pick for him at the draft and taken the cap space

Ribs

Gerta Rauss:
the last bit of the Hitch presser today on Chris Wideman:

…we need to make him part of the group ,so, we’ll probably put him in tomorrow too

Edit: I Read this as Spooner for some reason…

Too bad they made the trade before Hitch came onboard. Strome looked like a much more useful player (and one that could use some tough love). I won’t be surprised if Spooner gets ten games and then we never hear of him again. Not many positives from him so far.

Gerta Rauss

the last bit of the Hitch presser today on Chris Wideman:

…we need to make him part of the group ,so, we’ll probably put him in tomorrow too

Ribs

silasbengtsson:
Ribs,
Probably the same problem as everywhere else in the world.

A significant majority of people can’t stand not being right/visible so much so that they’ll strawman other people’s ideas and thoughts without care for nuance. By making others look more wrong, they assume they’ll look more right and- unfortunately- that seems to work on those uninitiated in the world of reasonable discourse.

My least favourite part of most hockey forums is the prevalence of this brand of intellectually flaccid fuckery.

Reja: Truer Words Were Never Spoken.

Lurking has it’s perks, that is certain 🙂

I appreciate and applaud WG and others efforts to limit the silliness. This place polices itself in some ways, and that is a great thing (especially for a hockey guy).

digger50

OriginalPouzar: The thought that the wider ice (Olympic/European ice) leads to more offence is a giant myth and 100% factually incorrect.The wider ice surface stifles offence as everything can be pushed even farther from the net.

Sorry, we have heard opinions. There has never been any factual information that I know of but would be interested if it’s out there.

I’m for larger ice surface.

As the game continues to get faster, players larger and more skilled it is only logical they need more room or they are just running into each other.

3×3 or 4×4 is all the evidence needed.

Factually, only one thing stopping larger ice surface and that is money. Maybe net lost due to less seats. I’m certain we will get there one day.

Edit: ha, wish I read the rest of the thread first! I’m late to the party.

Still, I see Connor type players doing much better with more room. And I like to see more possession rather than this ping pong game we get sometimes just turning the puck over back and forth.

Reja

silasbengtsson:
Ribs,
Probably the same problem as everywhere else in the world.

A significant majority of people can’t stand not being right/visible so much so that they’ll strawman other people’s ideas and thoughts without care for nuance. By making others look more wrong, they assume they’ll look more right and- unfortunately- that seems to work on those uninitiated in the world of reasonable discourse.

My least favourite part of most hockey forums is the prevalence of this brand of intellectually flaccid fuckery.

Truer Words Were Never Spoken.

Unfriendly Regional Arachnid Individual

Ribs,
Probably the same problem as everywhere else in the world.

A significant majority of people can’t stand not being right/visible so much so that they’ll strawman other people’s ideas and thoughts without care for nuance. By making others look more wrong, they assume they’ll look more right and- unfortunately- that seems to work on those uninitiated in the world of reasonable discourse.

My least favourite part of most hockey forums is the prevalence of this brand of intellectually flaccid fuckery.

drglen

You know. The toronto maple leafs are starting to bug me

Something about those guys. Too much celebrating or something

Love the raptors

drglen

Glovjuice: I predict no NHL career like Lander.At his age – no chance to materially improve skating now.

There does seem to be a pattern of not trusting the guy to compete. Im not sure thats justified.

I was going to suggest he could be a good player pn an expansion team. But. Expansion teams are all second line. Players now

Glovjuice

OriginalPouzar:
Marody is, once again, proving to be an exceptional player at the AHL level.

This guy has an NHL career ahead of him but it might just not be as a center unless he can improve his skating.

I predict no NHL career like Lander. At his age – no chance to materially improve skating now.

Ribs

Woodguy v2.0:
smellyglove,

By the way, Ryan’s brother Dylan, whom everyone here preached would become a hockey god

That’s not even close to being true.

When everyone thought EDM was picking around 3rd there was some debate (I liked Hanafin, as did others), but I do not recall, ever, anyone saying “hockey god” in the same breath as Strome.

That’s incredibly wrong.

I love that you respond to this stuff, lol. I can feel your blood pressure climbing with every post.

On second thought, that probably isn’t a good thing. Stop it!

I do wonder where the disconnect is. Do people confuse things they read on twitter or elsewhere with the comments here? Or do they not skim over the off the wall random comments that sporadically get posted here? I fear the answer is “People just like to say stuff”, but I hope that isn’t it.

drglen

Nice goal by luff for la

OriginalPouzar

Pescador: Yes yes, I am well aware of this,
You have responded to my post by addressing a subject that has nothing to do with what I’m proposing.
You do this quite often, is it a lawyer thing, or an O.P. thing?

Also,
what about the 2 pucks idea that I just invented?

I responded to a point implying that larger ice = more offence – I disagree so I responded.

I don’t respond to silly suggestions.

OriginalPouzar

Yamamoto sets up Joe G. to give the Condors some life.

Pescador

drglen: This makes sense.

So. 2 pucks then

I think it’s catching on

Pescador

OriginalPouzar: The thought that the wider ice (Olympic/European ice) leads to more offence is a giant myth and 100% factually incorrect.The wider ice surface stifles offence as everything can be pushed even farther from the net.

Yes yes, I am well aware of this,
You have responded to my post by addressing a subject that has nothing to do with what I’m proposing.
You do this quite often, is it a lawyer thing, or an O.P. thing?

Also,
what about the 2 pucks idea that I just invented?

OriginalPouzar

Down 5-0, Bear and Jones on the PP together – don’t think I’ve seen that before this year.

drglen

OriginalPouzar: I don’t watch enough European hockey to answer that first question definitively but, no, I don’t really think its conservative offensive systems as much as it makes structured defensive systems more effective.

With the surface being so wide, defensive systems can be structured to push the play to the outside which is materially farther from the net than smaller ice surfaces.

Recall numerous examples over the years of much lesser skilled teams (think Latvia, Germany, Belarus) playing low scoring and close games with powerhouse nations – happens all the time – the ice surface leads to the ability to play stifling defensive systems.

This makes sense. And that is what would happen. Then youd look at nba type rules preventing certain defenses or restricting time “in the paint’ which would wreck the game entirely. Interesting

So. 2 pucks then

drglen

Bank Shot: The smaller surface results in more mistakes. Everything happens faster, so guys have less time to make plays which leads to more turnovers. Mistakes lead to offensive chances.

On the small surface if you beat a guy out of the corner its like 3 strides into scoring position. More on the big ice.

The prime scoring area on a goalie is still the same size no matter how big the entire ice surface.

Thays very interesting to me. Not what i expected.

OriginalPouzar

drglen: So would it be fair to say that the larger surfsce leads to more conservative play?

Perimeter play. Control slow build up wait for mistake. Like a soccer model?

Just trying to understand why it failed to be exciting and skill showcasing.Does the smaller surgace force more risk taking ?

I don’t watch enough European hockey to answer that first question definitively but, no, I don’t really think its conservative offensive systems as much as it makes structured defensive systems more effective.

With the surface being so wide, defensive systems can be structured to push the play to the outside which is materially farther from the net than smaller ice surfaces.

Recall numerous examples over the years of much lesser skilled teams (think Latvia, Germany, Belarus) playing low scoring and close games with powerhouse nations – happens all the time – the ice surface leads to the ability to play stifling defensive systems.

OriginalPouzar

Montoya gives up two quick ones early in the 2nd and is pulled at 3-0 and then Starrett gives up another quick one and the Condors have a bunch of work to do down 4-0.

Scungilli Slushy

Puljujarvi scored a goal yesterday but looking at the replay what wasn’t mentioned was that it was his incredible pass that set up the shot whose rebound he finished.

Hitch read him dead to rights mentioning his little plays in the O Zone. He has issues but he naturally turns the puck the right way and makes plays to free up opportunities for line mates.

He’s not far off being a dominant player even if not a high scoring player.

Bank Shot

drglen: So would it be fair to say that the larger surfsce leads to more conservative play?

Perimeter play. Control slow build up wait for mistake. Like a soccer model?

Just trying to understand why it failed to be exciting and skill showcasing.Does the smaller surgace force more risk taking ?

The smaller surface results in more mistakes. Everything happens faster, so guys have less time to make plays which leads to more turnovers. Mistakes lead to offensive chances.

On the small surface if you beat a guy out of the corner its like 3 strides into scoring position. More on the big ice.

The prime scoring area on a goalie is still the same size no matter how big the entire ice surface.

drglen

OriginalPouzar: Based zero on the NHL exhibition games in Europe and based on decades and decades of games being played on the big ice, internationally and in the European leagues.

So would it be fair to say that the larger surfsce leads to more conservative play?

Perimeter play. Control slow build up wait for mistake. Like a soccer model?

Just trying to understand why it failed to be exciting and skill showcasing. Does the smaller surgace force more risk taking ?

Wilde

russ99: Hitch’s long history of having difficulty with young European players

who’re you referring to here?

OriginalPouzar

drglen:
OriginalPouzar,

100 percrnt factsbased on what ?4 nhl exhibition games?

I seem to recall though those olympic games. And now that you mention it we did tend to see almost a zone perimeter defense. And then 3 guys coverge on tbe attacker when he tries to penetrate to the net.

Hmmm.

Based zero on the NHL exhibition games in Europe and based on decades and decades of games being played on the big ice, internationally and in the European leagues.

OriginalPouzar

Now Bear, not Day, starts on PP2.

OriginalPouzar

russ99: This quote really irks me. He’s the new coach and deserves a clean slate in hopes of the new coach bounce, but how is this any different than Chiarelli and MacTavish’s years long disdain of using the AHL as a developmental league? Not to mention Hitch’s long history of having difficulty with young European players.

The brass is looking at pitchforks and torches from the fan base, so let’s use the new guy as the messenger.

Zubov, Lehtinen, Handzus, Tarasenko, just off the top of my head, European players with great success under Hitchcock – your statement seems incorrect.

drglen

OriginalPouzar,

OriginalPouzar: The thought that the wider ice (Olympic/European ice) leads to more offence is a giant myth and 100% factually incorrect.The wider ice surface stifles offence as everything can be pushed even farther from the net.

100 percrnt factsbased on what ? 4 nhl exhibition games?

I seem to recall though those olympic games. And now that you mention it we did tend to see almost a zone perimeter defense. And then 3 guys coverge on tbe attacker when he tries to penetrate to the net.

Hmmm.

OriginalPouzar

Marody is, once again, proving to be an exceptional player at the AHL level.

This guy has an NHL career ahead of him but it might just not be as a center unless he can improve his skating.

OriginalPouzar

drglen:
BornInAGretzkyJersey,

Respectfully disagree.Skill players would shine and game takes a more i stinctive organic flow.The vertical v lateral aspects would not be obvious because there would be more motion and. Continuity.

Why do you think thrink there would be more scrums and obstruction?There would be more escapes i think

If you are referring to the big ice allowing skill players to shine more then I have to respectfully mention that this has time and time and time again proven to be false. The big ice has stifled offence for decades – this has been seen at international tournaments and in the lower scoring European leagues.

OriginalPouzar

Marody has touched and carried the puck more in the first 7 minutes tonight than his entire time on the NHL club in his most recent recall.

Montoya lets one sneak through and the Condors are down 1-0.

OriginalPouzar

Caleb Jones lets an opponent sneak in behind him on the PK and he gets a one one with the goalie but no goal. Jones needs to be a bit more aware of make sure that puck doesn’t get behind him. Lessons learned!

OriginalPouzar

Pescador: Wider ice will just lead to scrums further from the net as there is only 1 puck.
The solution?
2 Pucks

The thought that the wider ice (Olympic/European ice) leads to more offence is a giant myth and 100% factually incorrect. The wider ice surface stifles offence as everything can be pushed even farther from the net.

Scungilli Slushy

Side: Why is this still a thing? Jesse had an english tutor, before he even came to the Oilers and he had a tutor with the Oilers. Jesse struggled so they got him a teacher as well.

I just watched Jesse’s interview Pre-Raw on the Oilers Site.

He is still struggling mightily with language. He has to concentrate hard to hear, brow furrowed, and his verbal response is not up to the level as many people are after several years in a foreign to them country.

Not everyone has the ability to pick it up quickly. He doesn’t IMO. His native language is a unique beast which complicates things more. Remember Tikannese? Nobody understood that.

Finding a way to help him through that, until he is comfortable no matter what it takes, would pay huge dividends to the team and him. Hire Selanne to billet him. Not Tikkanen because he speaks neither language like Chretien.

If TS wants to get cold again.

We talk about confidence, not easily understanding people or being able to speak clearly back would be a huge confidence killer for me.

drglen

OriginalPouzar:
Logan Day, not Ethan Bear, comes out for PP2.

Bear and Day have kind of split the PP2 duties when Bear has been in the lineup.

Sounds like the bear train has left the station