Good Day Sunshine

Edmontonians have been learning all kinds of new phrases, like “get on the grind” and “vibrant fibre” and so far not one citizen has batted an eye. If Hitchcock starts next week with “I think Ryan Smyth can still play” there’s not a taxpayer within the city limits who will question it. What in the hell is going on? Goaltending. Structure. McDavid.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Oilers farm team in Bakersfield coming to a boil with quality prospects, most exciting farm team in decades.
  • Lowetide: Finding Ken Hitchcock’s Oilers more productive wingers: Hard target search.
  • Dom Luszczyszyn: 31 Stats (Oilers content).
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s waiver gamble on Valentin Zykov is one with the possibility of a surprisingly high-end payoff.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 4 Prospect winter 2018: Ryan McLeod.
  • Jonathan Willis: Like Rome in its war with Hannibal, Edmonton needs a Scipio Africanus.
  • Daniel Nugent Bowman: Lessons learned at Sherwood Park help guide Ken Hitchock’s attempt to turn the Oilers around.
  • Lowetide: Oilers need a first-shot scoring winger and Ryan Spooner isn’t it. So, what’s next?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: What Oilers want to see from top prospects Puljujarvi and Yamamoto
  • Lowetide: Jesse Puljujarvi to the show, plus the sudden impact of Cam Hebig and Joel Persson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 Prospect winter 2018: Tyler Benson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 2 Prospect winter 2018: Kailer Yamamoto.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 1 Prospect winter 2018: Evan Bouchard.

OILERS AFTER 26

  • Oilers in 20159-15-2, 20 points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in 2016: 14-10-2, 30 points; goal differential +8
  • Oilers in 2017: 10-14-2, 22 points; goal differential -14
  • Oilers in 2018: 13-11-2, 28 points; goal differential -4

That was a big win for Edmonton, who are now 3-3-1 against the Pacific Division. The Oilers are one point behind Vegas, with two games in hand. That’s a great spot. Also one point behind the Sharks, with a game in hand. Music! Big win last night.

OILERS IN DECEMBER

  • Oilers in December 2015: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in December 2016: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +3
  • Oilers in December 2017: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +2
  • Oilers in December 2018: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +1

Amazing that all the McDavid Novembers have been poor and the Decembers begin with a win. There’s a bit of Groundhog’s Day with this team. Still, a strong run (4-1-1) at the beginning of the Hitchcock years.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM DECEMBER

  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 0-1-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Dallas, St. Louis (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Minnesota, Calgary (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Colorado, Winnipeg (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Philadelphia (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Vancouver, San Jose, Winnipeg (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games 
  • Current results: 1-0-0, two points in one game

Edmonton could miss the playoffs from here, but the team is in the fight, and that’s a big deal. The Oilers are three points ahead of Vancouver, with three games in hand—that’s some clearance. Hitchcock seems to be working on his team to have repeatable performances, and with four games this week, that’s encouraging.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Gravel-Benning were 13-13 in 10:10, 7-4 shots and no goals, 3-4 HDSC. Gravel also spent a couple of decent minutes with Russell. Went 7-7 in 6:43 against Carrier-Bellemare-Reaves, who are a load. Benning got thumped real good a couple of times, but I like him and this pairing plenty.
  • Nurse-Russell went 14-15 in 14:52, 8-6 shots and 1-0 goals. It was a good night for the duo (2-2 HDSC), they delivered 11-9 without McDavid. Both men had two takeaways, bent but did not break and there was some chaos. Went 10-5 in 6:33 against Pacioretty-Eakin-Tuch, that’s some good hockeying.
  • Klefbom-Larsson were 13-27 in 14:16, 7-13 shots and 0-1 GA, 5-9 HDSC. They were 8-15 with 97, 5-12 without. More concerning, Larsson got beaten by a fast train winger off the rush more than once. I appreciated his recovery on the GA (Oscar needed to drill that puck 10 miles, but both defensemen were under duress), but the Larsson wide side gamble is a good one for opponents. If we know it, opponents know it. Back? Has to be, he’s only 26. If that kind of activity continues, Oilers have a massive problem.
  • Mikko Koskinen was stunning, stopping 31 of 32, .969. I’m not certain the point at which we just give up and say this is Mikko, but the early resume is fantastic.
  • NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Khaira-Spooner-Rattie looked terrific, the first traction from a No. 4 line in some time. The goal involved all three men, Rattie in pursuit, Khaira with the skilled bullet pass and Spooner with the goal to bring back old emotions. Nice. Went 7-7 in 7:19, 5-5 shots, 1-0 goals and 3-0 HDSC. I’m thrilled for all three men, hope they can keep it going. Went 6-5 in 4:34 against Theodore-Engelland. Impressive.
  • Caggiula-Nuge-Puljujarvi went 8-12 in 10:25, 3-4 shots, no goals and 1-5 HDSC. Went 4-6 in 6:22 against Holden-Miller, Nuge was impressive in all game states and the wingers carved ice all night long. You’d like more offense, but the Eakin line was up against them most often last night (4-9, 4:52) and that’s some tough sledding. Thrilled with Hitch’s remarks on 93.
  • Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian went 9-11 in 9:44, 3-3 shots, no goals and 2-4 HDSC. I thought they were effective and could have been more of a story if they had better finish. That’s a theme with this trio and I am beginning to wonder if this line will see the HS when Rieder returns (smart money on the Spooner trio). Hitchcock gives icetime based on performance. Went 4-7 against Miller and 6-6 in 5:28 against Marchessault-Karlsson-Smith. A fine performance.
  • Draisaitl-McDavid-Chiasson were 17-26 in 15:34 on the night, 1-1 goals and 4-7 HDSC. McDavid was his usual fabulous self, the goal another once worthy of framing. His linemates, specifically Leon, looked a day late and a dollar short on everything. Went 13-21 against McNabb-Schmidt, 6-21 against the Karlsson line. The line may need a tweak, unless the flu is with 29.

Shane Starrett with the shutout last night, this Condors team has more good stories than Carter has liver pills. I’ll have a story up on the Bakersfield 20 later this morning at The Athletic.

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  1. Glovjuice says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    To all the Chiarelli haters who ascribe to him the executive powers of Charlemagne, take a look at the MacTavish and Hextall firings, What’s the common denominator? An owner pressuring the GM for immediate results at the expense of prudent management. Patience is only rewarded when the guy signing the cheques has your back.

    Chiarelli was brought in BECAUSE Katz wanted to shake things up and fix the 1D issue immediately. The Hall trade goes all the way to the top including the OBC that permeates this organization like blue cheese,

    Everyone thinks Chiarelli lost credibility with Katz as a result of the Hall trade and Lucic signing. I suspect it’s the opposite. Having seen what happens from Yakupov to Hall when he interferes directly in personnel decisions, Katz rightfully concludes that filling the power gap left by Harvey Weinstein is a better use of his time and money. Where is Bobby Nick in all this? Constantly selling the plan to ownership while staving off the dynasty wolves at the door.

    Seriously, we’re going to lay this all at the feet of Chiarelli when this club still employs Scott Howson?

    If you want a balanced assessment of the GM, try and separate his moves vs those that came at the behest of the owner/meddler.

    This post might actually get me to change my anti Chia tune. But, tidbits like other GMs not knowing Hall was available make me pause on this, though.

  2. HugThePost says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    In regards to “who is responsible for Pete’s bad moves”

    In situations where perfect information is lacking its best to use Occam’s Razor.

    In this situation we see:

    1) Peter Chiarelli get fired from BOS for trading away talented players for meh returns and cap-strung the team with contracts that are too much for too long to non-essentials players

    2) Peter Chiarelli comes to EDM and trades away talented players (and high end assets) for meh returns and cap-strungs the team with contracts that are too much for too long to non-essential players.

    Its pretty clear imo.

    It makes me wonder what the odds are that Chia ever gets another NHL GM gig after Edmonton? Seattle maybe?

  3. Bling says:

    OriginalPouzar: The issue I’m seeing with Kassian in this regard (over the last little while) is a lack of puck skill. I know he was a 1st round pick, however, I see him bobble the puck and it roll off his stick pretty much every time he does retrieve in on the forecheck. Maybe its an offensive confidence thing but maybe he just doesn’t have very good mitts?

    Kassian is forechecking and skating well, but his instinct is always to button hook or play the puck into the boards into a high traffic area. When was the last time you saw him actually lean into a guy and drive towards the net?

    At this point, he is what he is.

    All three of those guys on that line don’t score and there’s a reason for it — they all play on the perimeter, and they don’t go to the dangerous areas.

    This line is the epitome of my favourite MacT quote, which is something to the effect of, “for too many of our guys, the best you can hope for is that nothing happens.”

  4. Bling says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Can the oilers swing a trade for Buchnevich

    That chart doesn’t look like it makes any sense.

    How in the world is Kassian a good shooter!?!? He’s brutal!

    Btw Kassian asking for a bigger role has to be the worst case of a lack of self-awareness that I’ve ever seen. Him and Chia should open a McDonald’s together.

  5. Buddy says:

    godot10: Hitch said he wanted that line to help give the Oilers define an identity, in an off the cuff way, and Kevin Quinn decided to give it “thecaptainethanmoreau” treatment.

    Thanks. I was wondering if it was something Quinn was told to use. That it’s his own poetic invention makes equal sense.

  6. Professor Q says:

    Man, that Strome trade. Sigh.

  7. pts2pndr says:

    Jethro Tull: He was going to be paid 2.5 for definite? Source?

    Or was Koski’s agent dropping a “weeeeelll, the Isles might want him back…..” (If he wasn’t, then they weren’t doing their job.)

    I assume the same goalie scouts okayed the LB let go.

    When the coach won’t play him does not matter how good he is! This argument would not be a good mountain to defend given McLellan as head coach!

  8. OriginalPouzar says:

    McLeod continues to struggle a bit – no points and minus 4 (they did get blown out, 7-0).

    Rodrigue gives up a couple late goals in a 10-3 win – made 19 stops.

  9. Glovjuice says:

    GMB3: Ahh yes what we have here is also known in some circles as a conspiracy theory.

    Try and seperate fact from fiction. What we know is Peter Chiarelli trades Hall, signs Lucic. What we know is Chiarelli has traded guys like Wheeler, Seguin, Kessel… and so on.

    Why is it so difficult to accept the fact that Chiarelli has developed a past, and if we use his past to inform our decision making today, it’s easy to come to the conclusion that Chiarelli is willing to bleed value for the guy he wants. I don’t think it took much prodding to convince the guy to trade Hall.

    I find this one of the most absurd and ridiculous methods of defending Chiarelli. There are people who honestly believe that we shouldn’t hold Chiarelli accountable for the Hall and Reinhart deals, because OBC. Look at his track record in Boston. Were Craig MacTavish and Kevin Lowe secretly pulling the strings there as well? What a joke. He’s the GM, is his name and reputation on the line. The guy pisses away young talent like few other general managers in NHL history.

    Ok, this swayed me back to the fire Chia position. He constantly bleeds elite talent.

  10. pts2pndr says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Signing a back-up goalie with no proven nhl track record to $2.5 million/ season is not a shrewd move. It was an overpay. I think everyone is happy with Koski’s play but the deal was a significant gamble at the time of signing.

    I would love a link to the article stating that other teams were offering Koski north of $1.5 million?
    Does a 30 year old goalie really have massive upside?

    You assume that was the plan! Was the plan test driving your possible new number one? Think about the one year contract! We don’t know what we don’t know!

  11. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: Hitch walked into the perfect scenario a dream job absolutely no pressure if they lose he’s gone but if they win he’s the toast of the town local boy comes home to save the Oilers. So far so good.

    I don’t agree there is no pressure – he’s the head coach of the Edmonton Oilers coming in with the express instruction to get an “uneven roster” in to the playoffs – in a town he has a huge history with.

    No, of course, his career isn’t on the line and his life will be just fine if he fails but I’m quite confident he didn’t “come out of retirement” to not give this task 100% and all the pressures that go along with it.

    Just Mike Babcock feel pressure? If he fails at his task,, he’ll take his multi-millions and get on with his life. I’m sure Hitch feels similar pressure.

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    OriginalPouzar,

    According to this he’s EDM’s most accurate shooter. https://public.tableau.com/profile/sean.tierney#!/vizhome/xGpershotvson-target/Dashboard7?publish=yes

    Maybe he just needs to shoot more with 27 & 23 going to the net?

    Ha – all i see is a mess of team logos.

    I understand Tierny is doing great work, i see the charts on twitter all the time – at the same time, I rarely have an idea what they every mean. To be fair, I don’t spend alot of time looking at them.

  13. Glovjuice says:

    Wilde: Of course it is, and that’s in fact been pointed out by those who I suspect you, BOP and othersare referring to as biased Chiarelli loathers or whatever it is today.

    You didn’t just point out that the move was great, you wrapped it in contempt for others that didn’t/don’t share your view and are basically parading around saying I win, you lose, on an issue that:

    a) Hasn’t even fully played out yet;

    b) Obviously needs a separate evaluation of process and result, as all educated gambles do.

    More, you do exactly what you accuse others of doing: You say that others can’t appraise Chiarelli’s doings without spitting on his past works, yet you haven’t managed to contribute your analysis without spitting on a group of people that you’ve drawn a line around and labeled as biased beyond recourse.

    Then compared people who hold a critical view of Chiarelli with people who can’t stop themselves from publicly disrespecting a man on the day of his death.

    You’ve both created a game that doesn’t exist and made yourself the sore winner of it.

    You were a fan of Todd McLellan’s work and a supporter of his, has anyone shat on you and your past views now that Hitchcock is succeeding (in a short sample; like Koskinen) with a roster McLellan failed with? I haven’t read it.

    Killer, I’m think Wilde has a high IQ. Brilliant framing. Wish I could do this so well. Amazing place this is.

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    HugThePost: Yep, another player we set free flourishes.

    We call remember how Pontus looked in pre-season though; he was hot garbage, indifferent and nonchalant.Chaisson clearly outplayed him and deserved the roster spot.

    As long as TMac was here though, Pontus was not going to get anywhere.I guess we know now that tardiness is right at the top of TMac’s pet peeve list.

    In Aberg’s defence, I do recall that other “tweeners” (Rattie, JP, Yamamoto, etc.) getting lots of reps up the lineup and Aberg getting essentially none in pre-season – always being on a line with AHL tweeners and never with legit NHLers let alone top 6 guys.

    At the same time, nope, he did not stand out and, combine that with his late appearance in North America and already in the bad books – he never had a shot.

    I was fine with waiving him, it made sense at the time. At the same time, I was adamant that that the re-claim was a no-brainer – not that I ever thought he’d produce like he has been but that he could go to the minors and be excellent cover for injuries (i.e Aberg over Patrick Russell).

    EDIT: just checked – his most common forwards in preseason were: Caggiula, Marody, Brodziak, Joe G., Josh Currie, B. Malone.

  15. Reja says:

    Bag of Pucks: n

    I don’t get the dislike for Spooner he just got here if he can return to the tenacious player he was in Boston and NY he’ll be fun to watch. Hopefully that Huge Goal last night will kick start him and his line mates they were looking really good all game.

  16. ashley says:

    Aberg is getting time with Getzlaf, one of the most creative forwards in the league. He creates lots of time and space for his line mates. I don’t think Pontus is anyone different than the player we put on waivers. He could have done what he is doing in ANA with McDavid, but that doesn’t mean he was the right choice to be on a line with McDavid.

    Remember Patrick Maroon? How is his 5×5 scoring looking this year?

  17. Glovjuice says:

    Bos8: Personally, I feel Yamamoto is a couple of years away.I didn’t see any separation down on the farm.It’s just a few games but no obvious signs of dominance.

    Every other little guy took a few years to establish himself and Yama doesn’t have one outstanding skill to compensate for the size.

    Very risky pick. As was Bouchard and Benson.

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q:
    Man, that Strome trade. Sigh.

    Its not like Strome is lighting it on fire on the Rangers:

    CF% 37%
    FF% 31%
    GF% 28.5%

    RelGF% – 31%

    Playing with a combo of Andersson, Kreider, Zibanejad

    Nope, Spooner has NOT been good, however, he has improved over the course of his games, his last two the most effective and last night he scored a massive goal for the team’s season.

    Given his greater history of scoring, the book is not closed on this trade a few weeks in notwithstanding the new coach.

    I was worried about the Oilers PK more than anything without Strome but its been almost perfect.

  19. ashley says:

    We all have our favourites and biases. That’s part of the fun of being a fan. LT is also a fan. It’s unreasonable to expect him to be a perfectly neutral conveyor of OIlers information like a journalist. I doubt he considers that his mandate here.

    I like Larsson a lot. I thought he played the GA as well as he could against a very fast forward in full flight. He showed good agility and great closing when it looked like he might get beat. Maybe that is coloured by some of my bias as outlined in the first line of this paragraph, but so be it.

    A hockey play is a complex thing. It’s possible for different people to see different things despite observing the exact same sequence. It’s more Michelangelo than Newton.

  20. pts2pndr says:

    Glovjuice: Ok, this swayed me back to the fire Chia position. He constantly bleeds elite talent.

    Didn’t Rask come back as part of the Kessel deal. Wasn’t Chiarelli the one that acquired the draft choice that turned into Seguin! There is more to this story! Sounds like you have an axe to grind. That might be a hall of an argument wouldn’t it? Just asking for a friend.

  21. Wilde says:

    OriginalPouzar: Ha – all i see is a mess of team logos.

    I understand Tierny is doing great work, i see the charts on twitter all the time – at the same time, I rarely have an idea what they every mean. To be fair, I don’t spend alot of time looking at them.

    On the right side along the scroll bar is the list of teams, clicking on one will exclude all of the other teams from the viz.

    The horizontal axis is a measure of how often a guy gets his shot attempts on net, the vertical is how dangerous his shots are.

    So if a player gets his shots on net often and from dangerous areas (compared to average), they’ll be pushed towards the top-right quarter.

    Kassian’s shots are on-target 91.3% of the time, over 10% more often than the next closest (ex)Oilers Rattie and Strome, and he’s in a cluster of five for the team lead in the average danger of his shots – 0.0975 expected goals per shot, which means he only needs to shoot ~10 times to get an (expected) goal.

    The reason that that hasn’t resulted in him scoring as many goals as the other players in the good area of the chart (McDavid, Caggiula, Draisaitl, Chiasson) is twofold: He doesn’t play that many minutes, and he doesn’t shoot that much.

    (I know you didn’t ask for an explanation, OP, but I thought I’d post about this for the group)

    Other interesting(ish) points from this chart:

    – Of all the regular defencemen, the blue to get his shot on net most often is… Oscar Klefbom.

    – The lowest on-target % man in Milan Lucic, who hits the net on 56% of his shots

    – The least dangerous shot generator is Jesse Puljujarvi

    – Ryan Strome hit the net often but with the 2nd least dangerous shots

    Shitty half-baked analysis: Walk Puljujarvi back on his volume shooting, and have someone else be the trigger for the Brodziak line, perhaps Zykov.

  22. pts2pndr says:

    pts2pndr: Didn’t Rask come back as part of the Kessel deal. Wasn’t Chiarelli the one that acquired the draft choice that turned into Seguin! There is more to this story! Sounds like you have an axe to grind. That might be a hall of an argument wouldn’t it? Just asking for a friend.

    Sorry glov juice this was meant for GMB3.

  23. Glovjuice says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    In regards to “who is responsible for Pete’s bad moves”

    In situations where perfect information is lacking its best to use Occam’s Razor.

    In this situation we see:

    1) Peter Chiarelli get fired from BOS for trading away talented players for meh returns and cap-strung the team with contracts that are too much for too long to non-essentials players

    2) Peter Chiarelli comes to EDM and trades away talented players (and high end assets) for meh returns and cap-strungs the team with contracts that are too much for too long to non-essential players.

    Its pretty clear imo.

    Did he build consensus for his moves?Of course.

    As a poster mentioned earlier, that’s the way it works in the real world.

    Building consensus for your moves doesn’t remove the responsibility for your moves though.

    He’s an adult, he’s in charge and he can own his moves likes we all would in our own situations.

    bam, perfect. Fire Chia.

  24. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Ha – all i see is a mess of team logos.

    I understand Tierny is doing great work, i see the charts on twitter all the time – at the same time, I rarely have an idea what they every mean. To be fair, I don’t spend alot of time looking at them.

    Click the Oilers logo on the right

  25. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar: Its not like Strome is lighting it on fire on the Rangers:

    CF% 37%
    FF% 31%
    GF% 28.5%

    RelGF% – 31%

    Playing with a combo of Andersson, Kreider, Zibanejad

    Nope, Spooner has NOT been good, however, he has improved over the course of his games, his last two the most effective and last night he scored a massive goal for the team’s season.

    Given his greater history of scoring, the book is not closed on this trade a few weeks in notwithstanding the new coach.

    I was worried about the Oilers PK more than anything without Strome but its been almost perfect.

    He’s at least been getting points with them (though getting scored on more). I do hope Spooner keeps improving.

    It just sucks seeing players like Strome and Aberg et al. do well in their new homes so soon after their departure.

  26. Lowetide says:

    pts2pndr: Didn’t Rask come back as part of the Kessel deal. Wasn’t Chiarelli the one that acquired the draft choice that turned into Seguin! There is more to this story! Sounds like you have an axe to grind. That might be a hall of an argument wouldn’t it? Just asking for a friend.

    Rask was for Andrew Raycroft, in June of 2006. It would have been one of Chiarelli’s first deals.

  27. LoDog says:

    GMB3,

    Uh ya that’s exactly what happened with Seguin anyway.

  28. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’m not sure I agree that choosing a player at number 10, coming off one of the best offensive seasons in recent OHL memory, that was universally slated to go well within the top 10 on pretty much all “legit” lists, that only fell to 10 due to 3 off the board picks in the top 10 and fills a massive organizational (long-term) need is a huge risk, I’m going to assume due to perceived average skating.

  29. Wilde says:

    Wilde,

    Added thoughts on the line that shall not be named:

    Just took a quick look, and here’s how the releases for that line break down per individual:

    Kyle Brodziak clocks in 17.79 shot attempts per 60 with Milan Lucic

    Milan Lucic clocks in at 15.12 with Kyle Brodziak

    and

    Zack Kassian fires 3.59 per 60 with Milan Lucic.

    So there’s an issue, two guys are volume shooting and the other is playmaking, and I’d argue Kass and Milan should be switched there, but here’s the deal with that:

    – Zack’s accuracy and danger on his shots could be gamed by how little he shoots, ie he only shoots if it’s good so we can’t expect him to increase his shot rate without a proportionate(ish) decrease in the average danger of said shots

    – From a technical standpoint, Hitchcock likes three relevant things:

    1) When the team gets the puck back in the DZ, the weakside winger must immediately skate like hell through the neutral zone

    2) The chipper chases his own chip, second man supports and facilitates the recovery

    3) If you recover, the third man’s usually a forward and the third man shoots (this is why the line is at 12.52 HDCF/60, someone holds ice in the slot and they pass it to him)

    All together, it means in a usual (90+% of the time) play Zack Kassian is either the guy chasing his own dump-in, or the second guy, bottom line is if the puck is recovered he has possession, and his job is to get it to the third man.

    The third man is usually (90+% of the time) Lucic or Brodziak because a) Lucic is the slowest (though it’s close) and b) Brodziak is playing down low in the DZ and has to travel further

    So Kassian not shooting is probably partially his choice, partially just the fact that the line is the most structured one on the team and the structure has its demands.

    I think they just need finish there. Zykov – Brodziak – Kassian. Give those 15 shot attempts/60 to Zykov.

    Only if the line struggles though. What they’re doing now is a-ok, but if they continue to not be able to score, then they’ve got a good first option in my view.

  30. godot10 says:

    Wilde: On the right side along the scroll bar is the list of teams, clicking on one will exclude all of the other teams from the viz.

    The horizontal axis is a measure of how often a guy gets his shot attempts on net, the vertical is how dangerous his shots are.

    So if a player gets his shots on net often and from dangerous areas (compared to average), they’ll bepushed towards the top-right quarter.

    Kassian’s shots are on-target 91.3% of the time, over 10% more often than the next closest (ex)Oilers Rattie and Strome, and he’s in a cluster of five for the team lead in the average danger of his shots – 0.0975 expected goals per shot, which means he only needs to shoot ~10 times to get an (expected) goal.

    The reason that that hasn’t resulted in him scoring as many goals as the other players in the good area of the chart (McDavid, Caggiula, Draisaitl, Chiasson) is twofold: He doesn’t play that many minutes, and he doesn’t shoot that much.

    (I know you didn’t ask for an explanation, OP, but I thought I’d post about this for the group)

    Other interesting(ish) points from this chart:

    – Of all the regular defencemen, the blue to get his shot on net most often is… Oscar Klefbom.

    – The lowest on-target % man in Milan Lucic, who hits the net on 56% of his shots

    – The least dangerous shot generator is Jesse Puljujarvi

    – Ryan Strome hit the net often but with the 2nd least dangerous shots

    Shitty half-baked analysis: Walk Puljujarvi back on his volume shooting, and have someone else be the trigger for the Brodziak line, perhaps Zykov.

    Does a shot into the goalies pad mean a shot on target? To me, a good accurate shooter is shooting for the boundary of the target, not the target itself, so there should be a lot of misses. If one is not missing some shots, it just means one is shooting into the goalies’ pads.

  31. godot10 says:

    pts2pndr: Didn’t Rask come back as part of the Kessel deal. Wasn’t Chiarelli the one that acquired the draft choice that turned into Seguin! There is more to this story! Sounds like you have an axe to grind. That might be a hall of an argument wouldn’t it? Just asking for a friend.

    Rask was obtained for Raycroft.

  32. drglen says:

    Nuge for prime minister

  33. jake70 says:

    Just something to consider when discussing cap crunch and cap hell etc. The lock-out in 2012-13 produced a CBA allowing 8 years max for a contract for a team’s own player.

    McDavid:
    100 000 000.00 over 8 years – Cap hit = 12.5M
    Crosby most recent, pre2013 CBA – 104 000 000.00 over 12 years – Cap hit = 8.7M

    Switch them:
    McDavid 100 000 000.00 over 12 year – Cap hit – 8.3M
    Crosby 104 000 000.00 over 8 years – Cap it = 13M (do they win back to back Stanleys with this?
    maybe)

    Now there are a hundred other factors to consider in building a Stanley team but getting a generational player on a decent cap hit beyond the ELC certainly can’t be overlooked. Well done NHL – saw all those canadian teams accumulating high picks last decade and decided 8 year max was your hill to die on. Yeah I’m jaded toward the league. 😉

  34. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Wilde: Of course it is, and that’s in fact been pointed out by those who I suspect you, BOP and othersare referring to as biased Chiarelli loathers or whatever it is today.

    You didn’t just point out that the move was great, you wrapped it in contempt for others that didn’t/don’t share your view and are basically parading around saying I win, you lose, on an issue that:

    a) Hasn’t even fully played out yet;

    b) Obviously needs a separate evaluation of process and result, as all educated gambles do.

    More, you do exactly what you accuse others of doing: You say that others can’t appraise Chiarelli’s doings without spitting on his past works, yet you haven’t managed to contribute your analysis without spitting on a group of people that you’ve drawn a line around and labeled as biased beyond recourse.

    Then compared people who hold a critical view of Chiarelli with people who can’t stop themselves from publicly disrespecting a man on the day of his death.

    You’ve both created a game that doesn’t exist and made yourself the sore winner of it.

    You were a fan of Todd McLellan’s work and a supporter of his, has anyone shat on you and your past views now that Hitchcock is succeeding (in a short sample; like Koskinen) with a roster McLellan failed with? I haven’t read it.

    That’s very accurate and well written.

  35. Wilde says:

    godot10: Does a shot into the goalies pad mean a shot on target? To me, a good accurate shooter is shooting for the boundary of the target, not the target itself, so there should be a lot of misses.If one is not missing some shots, it just means one is shooting into the goalies’ pads.

    Yes, that’s the (flawed) working definition for the chart and it has its problems as you outlined, just as the working definition of ‘danger’ also has its issues, xG misses a ton of detail

  36. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ashley:
    Aberg is getting time with Getzlaf, one of the most creative forwards in the league.He creates lots of time and space for his line mates.I don’t think Pontus is anyone different than the player we put on waivers.He could have done what he is doing in ANA with McDavid, but that doesn’t mean he was the right choice to be on a line with McDavid.

    Remember Patrick Maroon?How is his 5×5 scoring looking this year?

    Aberg scored 1.99 pts/60 5v5 in EDM.

    This year in ANA he’s scoring 2.39/69 with Getzlaf and 1.85/60 apart.

    Same player he was here.

  37. Reja says:

    OriginalPouzar: I don’t agree there is no pressure – he’s the head coach of the Edmonton Oilers coming in with the express instruction to get an “uneven roster” in to the playoffs – in a town he has a huge history with.

    No, of course, his career isn’t on the line and his life will be just fine if he fails but I’m quite confident he didn’t “come out of retirement” to not give this task 100% and all the pressures that go along with it.

    Just Mike Babcock feel pressure?If he fails at his task,, he’ll take his multi-millions and get on with his life. I’m sure Hitch feels similar pressure.

    Pete’s got all the pressure did you see how rough he looked after he canned Todd he’s down to his last wildcard and he knows it.Hitch has been around the block to long to feel any real pressure especially in this scenario.

  38. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Glovjuice: Killer, I’m think Wilde has a high IQ. Brilliant framing. Wish I could do this so well. Amazing place this is.

    Woodguy v2.0: That’s very accurate and well written.

    – This has been an enjoyable thread. I liked how the discussion of Koski turned into an examination of the various biases that permuate our shared experience with the Oil over the years.

    – Two readers, come to different conclusions on my same post: brilliant!

  39. Bag of Pucks says:

    Andy Dufresne: Its also possible to agree with what you say above and agree with Bag of Pucks that you’ve been a proponent of firing the GM for some time now. These two things are not mutually exclusive. Agreed?

    Its not a criticism. Its a statement of fact as is your statement that your goal is to always maintain a perspective that balances the good with the bad.

    I call this reality “The Smirconish”. He’s the CCN talking head who claims (in a badge of honour way) that he knows hes got it about right when based on a singular line of reasoning BOTH the Democrats and the Republican viewers of his show feel hes baised towards the view of the other side.

    For the record, I think you do a good job of creating and maintaining balance and perspective. At the same time I can completely relate to the the sentiments expressed by Bag of Pucks (sometimes you acquire a past).

    This is the point where you are fully entitled to a Colonel Jessup response of…….

    “Son, we live in a world of statistics, and those numbers have to be guarded by men with blogs. Who’s gonna do it? You? Bag of Pucks, You, Andy Dufresne? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Chiarelli and you curse the statistics. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that TMacs firing, while tragic, probably saved the franchise. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, informs fans. You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me to publish the stats. You need me to publish the stats. We use words like corsi, and coris rel. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of knowledge that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said “thank you” and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a calculator and stand at post. Either way, I don’t give a *damn* what you think you are entitled this to!

    This was very funny.

  40. Genjutsu says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    Signing a back-up goalie with no proven nhl track record to $2.5 million/ season is not a shrewd move. It was an overpay. I think everyone is happy with Koski’s play but the deal was a significant gamble at the time of signing.

    I would love a link to the article stating that other teams were offering Koski north of $1.5 million?
    Does a 30 year old goalie really have massive upside?

    Okay so paying an extra one million on a one year deal is a significant gamble? Would the extra million allowed him address the holes on the team? Would this team be better today with a different goalie at 1.5 and the extra cash?

    Hindsight is 20/20, or should be, this one has worked out so far.

    Goalies are voodoo and making grandiose claims about them is fraught with peril.

  41. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Genjutsu,

    What grandiose claim did I make?

    Signing a goalie with almost no nhl experience and expecting him to contribute is a big gamble. This is not a grandiose claim. I am glad it is working out so far but it was and remains a big gamble.

    And yes, the Oilers are dying for cap space.

  42. Genjutsu says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Aberg scored 1.99 pts/60 5v5 in EDM.

    This year in ANA he’s scoring 2.39/69 with Getzlaf and 1.85/60 apart.

    Same player he was here.

    Should have fired the coach in the summer.

  43. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    I’m convinced that most of the Chiarelli defence done in the comments section here and on twitter is more due to the disdain that those posters feel towards the posters who want Pete out than due to actually thinking Pete is good at his job.

  44. Genjutsu says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    Genjutsu,

    What grandiose claim did I make?

    Signing a goalie with almost no nhl experience and expecting him to contribute is a big gamble. This is not a grandiose claim. I am glad it is working out so far but it was and remains a big gamble.

    And yes, the Oilers are dying for cap space.

    What would you have done instead and how well would that have worked out?

  45. Glovjuice says:

    Reja: I don’t get the dislike for Spooner he just got here if he can return to the tenacious player he was in Boston and NY he’ll be fun to watch. Hopefully that Huge Goal last night will kick start him and his line mates they were looking really good all game.

    Fun to watch ! what is this? Lowetide’s Comedy Central.

  46. Genjutsu says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    I’m convinced that most of the Chiarelli defence done in the comments section here and on twitter is more due to the disdain that those posters feel towards the posters who want Pete out than due to actually thinking Pete is good at his job.

    That could be or just some of us are such blind Homers we defend anything Oil to beyond the limits of fault.

    Maybe some of both?

  47. Bling says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Aberg scored 1.99 pts/60 5v5 in EDM.

    This year in ANA he’s scoring 2.39/69 with Getzlaf and 1.85/60 apart.

    Same player he was here.

    Dating back to his time with the Oilers, he is on a 46 point pace, i.e. good second line numbers.

    I think you gotta give Chia some credit for acquiring him in the first place, and then wonder about McLellan not using him.

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard is plus 20 in 11 games in London with a 5 X 5 GF% of 80%.

    Of course, the Knights are undefeated since his routurn (along with Formenton, Foudy).

  49. Bling says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Chiarelli is objectively horrible at being a GM. Whether people agree or disagree with that is another thing, and IMO is irrelevant.

    This franchise could have been the Leafs of the West and he ruined it.

  50. Richard S.S. says:

    Who’s the better G.M., one who is cap tight or one with cap space?

  51. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    I’m convinced that most of the Chiarelli defence done in the comments section here and on twitter is more due to the disdain that those posters feel towards the posters who want Pete out than due to actually thinking Pete is good at his job.

    I think people reach a point where they can’t believe others see things differently, and then begin creating narratives around what they see as being inconsistent. I started out in a very good place with Peter Chiarelli, but in viewing his moves over these 3+ years, it’s difficult to see a way out of his own mess. The current Oilers look very much like the Bruins roster that got him fired.

    For the record, I began here with PC. It’s quite positive:

    https://lowetide.ca/2015/04/24/chiarelli-in-charge/

    One thing I do value about this blog is that people should be free to give their opinions (unless it’s personal or about politics/race/religion/gin. I don’t think the people who have posted in today’s blog are ever going to agree about Peter Chiarelli’s time as Oilers general manager, but I thought MacT would be a great one and he was not close.

    Perhaps he survives and the Oilers win Stanley. THAT might bring us all together for a day.

  52. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide,

    Have you ever tried Ungava?

    If I ever make it out West, I should get you some.

  53. Glovjuice says:

    pts2pndr: Sorry glov juice this was meant for GMB3.

    No problem, minor. it could have been for me though. I honestly thought it was AND that I deserved it. This place is wild most days. One playoff appearance in 13 years (see what I just did) will do that.

  54. Jethro Tull says:

    Lowetide,

    Gin gin or gin rummy. And why?

  55. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I’m not sure I agree that choosing a player at number 10, coming off one of the best offensive seasons in recent OHL memory, that was universally slated to go well within the top 10 on pretty much all “legit” lists, that only fell to 10 due to 3 off the board picks in the top 10 and fills a massive organizational (long-term) need is a huge risk, I’m going to assume due to perceived average skating.

    Yes, 100 % skating is my worry. Same with Benson and Yamo (and, no, he is NOT fast or even “quick” in my opinion – like Yak).

  56. Lowetide says:

    Professor Q:
    Lowetide,

    Have you ever tried Ungava?

    If I ever make it out West, I should get you some.

    I have not, but will cast about.

  57. Lowetide says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Lowetide,

    Gin gin or gin rummy. And why?

    I enjoy both, and have had too much of one in my lifetime. 🙂 I don’t drink a lot of rum anymore, and stayed away from rye for a long, long time. Have also backed off beer for a time, but it’ll be summer soon.

  58. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reja: Pete’s got all the pressure did you see how rough he looked after he canned Todd he’s down to his last wildcard and he knows it.Hitch has been around the block to long to feel any real pressure especially in this scenario.

    Except for the fact that he expressly talked about the pressure – his exact words.

    The entire city is focused on the team and on him – how could he not feel pressure, no matter how long he’s been around.

    I’ll also take his express and explicit word for it.

  59. Jethro Tull says:

    Lowetide: I enjoy both, and have had too much of one in my lifetime. 🙂 I don’t drink a lot of rum anymore, and stayed away from rye for a long, long time. Have also backed off beer for a time, but it’ll be summer soon.

    If the season goes south, I expect a blog titled “It’ll be Summer Soon”

    Great line.

  60. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Lowetide:

    For the record, I began here with PC. It’s quite positive:

    https://lowetide.ca/2015/04/24/chiarelli-in-charge/

    Perhaps he survives and the Oilers win Stanley. THAT might bring us all together for a day.

    – That was an interesting look-back: thanks!. DSF making the call that they would need to trade Hall to get back a meaningful RHD, and WoodGuy getting all mad and hot and bothered at him and telling DSF that he does what he does because that is who he is (kinda familiar)…Good times!

  61. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yes, the game is fast and quick but I believe the narrative that any player that isn’t a plus skater is a huge risk and likely doomed to bust is highly overblown.

  62. Reja says:

    Glovjuice: Fun to watch ! what is this? Lowetide’s Comedy Central.

    I jumped out of my chair high fiving my daughter when spooner scored that beautiful winning goal that involved the whole line. Also enjoyed his polite interview with half his teeth missing I was happy for the young man and yes I had fun watching the game with loved ones.

  63. Sierra says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Agreed.

    He can just skate it or throw it at the net.

    Doesn’t have to be a Fancy Dan about it.

    For sure. The last couple games Kassian has had opportunities to get the puck to the net and he instead decides to turn back to the corner and promptly turns over the puck. Maybe he is taking the coach to literally about extended possession time.

  64. Richard S.S. says:

    IMO, Todd McLellan was a very good Coach. He had difficulty in seeing and utilizing talent in borderline Players. They can be very good, very valuable in limited ways, yet McLellan needed more. He had difficulty in seeing and utilizing talent in the very young, in understanding they still need to be taught at the NHL level. Which deals that Peter Chiarelli made were McLellan driven?

  65. rickithebear says:

    29 days without oral food.
    7 days tube feeding after thinking I was in game of thrones for 24 hr.
    Kidneys shutdown
    Biopsies
    Dialysis
    Off dialysis yesterday
    15 days of gaining energy.
    Lightest I have been since 86.
    Cleared after transplant
    PET test on DEC 10
    To sign off on remission.

    Pregnazone witha possible creatine level reset @300.

    My oilers giving up GA rates I want under a HD coach like Hitch.

    Team has been a joy
    12-5-2
    except for the last 7 games under TMac
    1-6

    Go Oilers!

  66. Glovjuice says:

    Reja: I jumped out of my chair high fiving my daughter when spooner scored that beautiful winning goal that involved the whole line. Also enjoyed his polite interview with half his teeth missing I was happy for the young man and yes I had fun watching the game with loved ones.

    Haha. Hallmark is looking for writers I here.

  67. unca miltie says:

    rickithebear,

    Glad to hear from you Ricki. All the best in your recovery

  68. Lowetide says:

    Hi Ricki! I don’t know how you’re doing it but am thrilled you are doing it!

  69. Sierra says:

    Bling: Kassian is forechecking and skating well, but his instinct is always to button hook or play the puck into the boards into a high traffic area. When was the last time you saw him actually lean into a guy and drive towards the net?

    Very observant.

  70. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    rickithebear,

    – Go Ricki!

  71. Reja says:

    rickithebear:
    29 days without oral food.
    7 days tube feeding after thinking I was in game of thrones for 24 hr.
    Kidneys shutdown
    Biopsies
    Dialysis
    Off dialysis yesterday
    15 days of gaining energy.
    Lightest I have been since 86.
    Cleared after transplant
    PET test on DEC 10
    To sign off on remission.

    Pregnazone witha possible creatine level reset @300.

    My oilers giving up GA rates I want under a HD coach like Hitch.

    Team has been a joy
    12-5-2
    except for the last 7 games under TMac
    1-6

    Go Oilers!

    All the best to you Ricki stay strong and let’s watch our Oilers go on a deep playoff run.

  72. gregsaint says:

    “Rattie – lost the handle on a breakaway”

    Untrue – the defender made a great play to poke the puck away just as Rattie tried to shoot.

  73. jtblack says:

    Lowetide: I enjoy both, and have had too much of one in my lifetime. I don’t drink a lot of rum anymore, and stayed away from rye for a long, long time. Have also backed off beer for a time, but it’ll be summer soon.

    You are a beauty LT !!

  74. jtblack says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    rickithebear,

    – Go Ricki!

    +1

  75. Sierra says:

    gregsaint:
    “Rattie – lost the handle on a breakaway”

    Untrue – the defender made a great play to poke the puck away just as Rattie tried to shoot.

    For sure. I mentioned this during the game thread. Some people just want to shit on others.

  76. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Damn, Ducks with a massive come back win against WSH – down 4 earlier in the game.Le sigh.

    Frickin Ducks don’t die. Bastards.

  77. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Bling:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Chiarelli is objectively horrible at being a GM. Whether people agree or disagree with that is another thing, and IMO is irrelevant.

    This franchise could have been the Leafs of the West and he ruined it.

    He didn’t do it all by himself … he had a lot of help. Firing Peter and doing nothing more will accomplish very little if anything.

  78. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Lowetide: I think people reach a point where they can’t believe others see things differently, and then begin creating narratives around what they see as being inconsistent. I started out in a very good place with Peter Chiarelli, but in viewing his moves over these 3+ years, it’s difficult to see a way out of his own mess. The current Oilers look very much like the Bruins roster that got him fired.

    For the record, I began here with PC. It’s quite positive:

    https://lowetide.ca/2015/04/24/chiarelli-in-charge/

    One thing I do value about this blog is that people should be free to give their opinions (unless it’s personal or about politics/race/religion/gin. I don’t think the people who have posted in today’s blog are ever going to agree about Peter Chiarelli’s time as Oilers general manager, but I thought MacT would be a great one and he was not close.

    Perhaps he survives and the Oilers win Stanley. THAT might bring us all together for a day.

    Very nice post, LT. Especially the last line. You may want to keep this one on speed recover … I have a feeling that you will refer back to this one in the not too distance future.

  79. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Sierra: For sure. The last couple games Kassian has had opportunities to get the puck to the net and he instead decides to turn back to the corner and promptly turns over the puck.Maybe he is taking the coach to literally about extended possession time.

    Interesting.

  80. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    rickithebear:
    29 days without oral food.
    7 days tube feeding after thinking I was in game of thrones for 24 hr.
    Kidneys shutdown
    Biopsies
    Dialysis
    Off dialysis yesterday
    15 days of gaining energy.
    Lightest I have been since 86.
    Cleared after transplant
    PET test on DEC 10
    To sign off on remission.

    Pregnazone witha possible creatine level reset @300.

    My oilers giving up GA rates I want under a HD coach like Hitch.

    Team has been a joy
    12-5-2
    except for the last 7 games under TMac
    1-6

    Go Oilers!

    The team has been a joy as of late … but not as big of a joy as seeing you posting again. Wishing only the best for you, sir.

  81. smellyglove says:

    Ricki! Sending you positive vibes

  82. hunter1909 says:

    Richard S.S.:
    IMO, Todd McLellan was a very good Coach. He had difficulty in seeing and utilizing talent in borderline Players.They can be very good, very valuable in limited ways, yet McLellan needed more. He had difficulty in seeing and utilizing talent in the very young, in understanding they still need to be taught at the NHL level. Which deals that Peter Chiarelli made were McLellan driven?

    Since when do “very good” coaches fail in understanding the talent on their rosters? And failing to utilize the talent of borderline(cough Identity Line cough) players? Also, failing to understand the mindset of young players?

    Sounds to me like Punch Imlach – Twilight Zoned into the 21st century

    Add: Hopelessly out of date coaching philosophy and he failed year after year in playoffs everywhere he coached including Edmonton when he was clearly outcoached by those mean old Ducks.

    I can’t wait to see the next team stupid enough to hire him. Rinse and repeat. The Sharks fans warned us. Luckily we cut bait after half the time they endured.

  83. pts2pndr says:

    Lowetide: Rask was for Andrew Raycroft, in June of 2006. It would have been one of Chiarelli’s first deals.

    Thanks LT. I took some time and checked on a couple of Chiarelli’s deals among them were
    1. Blake Wheeler signed as a free agent when Arizona couldn’t get him signed
    2. Kessel to Toronto for the draft choice that got the Bruins Tyler Seguin

    Although his hisory shows some bad trades he has also made some judicious trades and aquisitions.

  84. Reja says:

    Glovjuice: Haha. Hallmark is looking for writers I here.

    That’s the joy in watching sports and especially the oilers everyone has different views and opinions that’s what makes it so interesting and people with a edgy sense of Humor or awesome.

  85. Paddy Morans Jockstrap says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: He didn’t do it all by himself … he had a lot of help. Firing Peter and doing nothing more will accomplish very little if anything.

    Here is the roster that Chiarelli “ruined”

    https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/EDM/2015.html

    I think TBOTB beat him to it by a fair margin

  86. Paddy Morans Jockstrap says:

    Been looking at how the young goalies in the AHL have been doing. Especially Skinner who I think has a chance at being special. Skinner is the youngest goaler in the league (as far as I can tell) at barely 20 and is doing fine with a line of

    13GP 3.09GA .913SP

    Pretty good for getting settled into a men’s league as a 19 year old. Hopefully he keeps improving and is ready for the jump to AHL by spring. A 2nd pro year as AHL backup or 1B and then a 3rd as starter could see him NHL ready by fall 2021 if all goes well. So far so good and I’ll have to give him the eye test him in an upcoming start.

  87. Lowetide says:

    Paddy Morans Jockstrap:
    Been looking at how the young goalies in the AHL have been doing. Especially Skinner who I think has a chance at being special. Skinner is the youngest goaler in the league (as far as I can tell) at barely 20 and is doing fine with a line of

    13GP3.09GA .913SP

    Pretty good for getting settled into a men’s league as a 19 year old. Hopefully he keeps improving and is ready for the jump to AHL by spring. A 2nd pro year as AHL backup or 1B and then a 3rd as starter could see him NHL ready by fall 2021 if all goes well. So far so good and I’ll have to give him the eye test him in an upcoming start.

    Dubnyk was 43, 2.56 .921 in the ECHL as a rookie, Skinner isn’t that far away.

  88. Bag of Pucks says:

    rickithebear,

    Way to battle Ricki!

  89. Paddy Morans Jockstrap says:

    Lowetide: Dubnyk was 43, 2.56 .921 in the ECHL as a rookie, Skinner isn’t that far away.

    That’s a good line in the sand, and Skinner is half a year younger at the same stage.

    Wells is keeping his nose above water (.895) but not doing anything notable. Skinner seems to have become the 1A and is starting more. I don’t see as much upside in Wells.

  90. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    Genjutsu,

    And yes, the Oilers are dying for cap space.

    Yup. And when Sekera is healthy, something will have to give.

    Hossa + a pick for Lucic & a prospect, perhaps? It is a mess indeed.

    Edmonton Oilers
    PROJECTED CAP HIT Tooltip : $79,952,362
    PROJECTED LTIR USED Tooltip : $503,733
    PROJECTED CAP SPACE Tooltip : $51,371

    CURRENT CAP SPACE Tooltip : $4,944,166
    DEADLINE CAP SPACE Tooltip : $4,944,166
    TODAYS CAP HIT Tooltip : $80,046,166
    ROSTER SIZE: 23/23
    CONTRACTS: 48/50
    RESERVE LIST: 69/90

  91. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    I’m convinced that most of the Chiarelli defence done in the comments section here and on twitter is more due to the disdain that those posters feel towards the posters who want Pete out than due to actually thinking Pete is good at his job.

    Either that or they are members of the Chiarelli Illuminati

  92. €√¥£€^$ says:

    rickithebear:
    29 days without oral food.
    7 days tube feeding after thinking I was in game of thrones for 24 hr.
    Kidneys shutdown
    Biopsies
    Dialysis
    Off dialysis yesterday
    15 days of gaining energy.
    Lightest I have been since 86.
    Cleared after transplant
    PET test on DEC 10
    To sign off on remission.

    Pregnazone witha possible creatine level reset @300.

    My oilers giving up GA rates I want under a HD coach like Hitch.

    Team has been a joy
    12-5-2
    except for the last 7 games under TMac
    1-6

    Go Oilers!

    Thinking of you Ricki, all the best to you

  93. Pandaup says:

    rickithebear,

    God bless, Ricki.

  94. JimmyV1965 says:

    pts2pndr: Thanks LT. I took some time and checked on a couple of Chiarelli’s deals among them were
    1. Blake Wheeler signed as a free agent when Arizona couldn’t get him signed
    2. Kessel to Toronto for the draft choice that got the Bruins Tyler Seguin

    Although his hisory shows some bad trades he has also made some judicious trades and aquisitions.

    Just to set the record straight, no one thought the Kessel trade would yield a second overall pick. The Leafs were considered a playoff team at the time of the deal. He got very lucky the Leafs fell off the face of the earth.

  95. JimmyV1965 says:

    Paddy Morans Jockstrap: Here is the roster that Chiarelli “ruined”

    https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/EDM/2015.html

    I think TBOTB beat him to it by a fair margin

    And to be fair to Chia that was a train wreck roster. I count six legit NHL players at the time and they were all very young. The rest were either washed-up vets, career minor leaguers or teenagers. My greatest fear firing Chia is allowing the architects of that gong show to regain power.

  96. ArmchairGM says:

    ashley: a perfectly neutral conveyor of… information like a journalist.

    Naiveté at it’s finest!!

  97. Jethro Tull says:

    JimmyV1965: And to be fair to Chia that was a train wreck roster. I count six legit NHL players at the time and they were all very young. The rest were either washed-up vets, career minor leaguers or teenagers. My greatest fear firing Chia is allowing the architects of that gong show to regain power.

    Er, what’s changed? Still same team + Connor McDavid.

  98. jp says:

    rickithebear,

    All the best Ricki. Good luck on the 10th.

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    He was a lock but Safin on the Czech roster for the WJC.

    Let’s hope his injury doesn’t keep him out of the tourney.

  100. hags9k says:

    Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery Ricki.

  101. smellyglove says:

    JimmyV1965: And to be fair to Chia that was a train wreck roster. I count six legit NHL players at the time and they were all very young. The rest were either washed-up vets, career minor leaguers or teenagers. My greatest fear firing Chia is allowing the architects of that gong show to regain power.

    Well. There is an MVP winner, perennial 25G first line player, two-way top6 C, stud left D on that roster.

    As well as non-depleted trade chip Yakupov, himself a #1ov, all-star C in Draisaital on the roster. Chia would also inherit the pick that got the best player in the world, as well as two more picks in the top 35 of the 2015 draft.

    Overall roster, not good. However, Trade assets and potential through the roof.

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