The judge said five to ten, I said double that again

I am not, by nature, a bloodthirsty sort. I did spend much of my youth watching the golden age of heavyweight boxing, the big, bad Bruins and Roller Derby on television (holy hell that was a time). 

Jujhar Khaira earned a suspension, that was a mammoth crosscheck from a strong, strong man. Here’s the thing: He’s skilled, has good hands and passing skills, and getting to the front of the net might actually pay off. I’m not condoning what he did, but it probably helps him moving forward. Playing with abandon and an edge is always in style, and driving to the front of the net works. Khaira is the latest example of ‘wait five years’ before making a call on a player. The big item is this: The Oilers were patient this time, Khaira is emerging in Edmonton, rather than Minnesota or Columbus. More please.  

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Ken Hitchcock, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and finding that elusive perfect fit on the Oilers No. 2 line.
  • New Jonathan Willis: Milan Lucic should not be an everyday player for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • Corey Pronman: World Junior Championship Preview: Team Canada
  • Lowetide: Ken Hitchcock and the Oilers fan base that is intoxicated by the words of the great communicator
  • Jonathan Willis: Under Ken Hitchcock, the Oilers may be moving away from the yo-yo approach to development. 
  • Lowetide: With Oscar Klefbom’s injury, will the Oilers look in unusual places for a solution?
  • Black Dog Pat: A bittersweet year 
  • Lowetide: No. 7 prospect Winter 2018: Caleb Jones
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 6 Prospect winter 2018: Cooper Marody
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 5 Prospect winter 2018: Ethan Bear.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 4 Prospect winter 2018: Ryan McLeod.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 Prospect winter 2018: Tyler Benson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 2 Prospect winter 2018: Kailer Yamamoto.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 1 Prospect winter 2018: Evan Bouchard.

THE CURRENT OILERS

  • The numbers at mid-season are fascinating. Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl are runaway trains and Alex Chiasson is having a career year alongside them. 
  • There is a second line here, ladies and men. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is posting some excellent offense so far this year away from 97. His work recently with youngsters Jesse Puljujarvi and Jujhar Khaira is borderline remarkable. 
  • Ryan Spooner didn’t get into the last game, but with the suspension to Khaira he’ll likely draw in. Drake Caggiula and Tobias Rieder aren’t far from reasonable offense from third liners. 
  • Darnell Nurse and Adam Larsson have another month (or so) as top pair, it’s vital they hang around 50 percent in possession. Edmonton is getting caved lately in shot share, important to outlet with finesse. 
  • Kevin Gravel and Caleb Jones have been a Godsend for this team. 
  • Jason Garrison is giving everything he can but that third pairing isn’t getting it done. I believe in Matt Benning. I think the team needs to tweak the third pairing. 
  • Mikko Koskinen has to be in the mix for first half MVP, his performance (11 first-half wins in 17 games) has Edmonton in a playoff spot this morning. 

CHIARELLI SINCE KEITH GRETZKY ARRIVED

Keith Gretzky on the draft: “When you have the job, it’s your list. When we put our list together, all the scouts have worked all year. They’ve gone to 200 games in a year, if a player is on our list it’s because we want him, nobody else.”

Keith Gretzky was hired in August of 2016, in the days that immediately followed the drafting of Jesse Puljujarvi and the trading of Taylor Hall. In the 2+ seasons he has been a part of the organization, the team has been aggressive in procurement up and down the line. 

The two drafts since Gretzky arrived have yet to bear fruit, but Evan Bouchard and Kailer Yamamoto are two of the team’s top prospects. The second and third-round selections are matriculating and we’ll see around the end of the decade or early next. 

THE CHIARELLI-GRETZKY FREE AGENT SIGNINGS2

  • 2017: Ty Rattie, Jussi Jokinen, Yohann Auvitu
  • 2018: Alex Chiasson, Tobias Rieder, Kyle Brodziak, Kevin Gravel, Mikko Koskinen, Jason Garrison, Jakub Jerabek

The team had zero free-agent money in year one and very little last summer. Many (certainly me) wondered why the team spent so much money (from a very small budget) on Koskinen, but that turned out beyond belief. Alex Chiasson is another fantastic value deal, the group signed over the summer have had impressive impact and I don’t think anyone can reasonably argue otherwise. 

THE CHIARELLI-GRETZKY TRADES

  • Brandon Davidson for David Desharnais
  • Jordan Eberle for Ryan Strome
  • Jussi Jokinen for Mike Cammalleri
  • Mark Letestu for Pontus Aberg
  • Patrick Maroon for pick used on Cooper Marody
  • Ryan Strome for Ryan Spooner
  • Sixth-round pick for Chris Wideman

Everyone has an opinion on a trade, here’s mine on this group. I liked the Desharnais addition, felt Chiarelli should have been more aggressive at the deadline, but the deal itself helped the club in an important area.

The Eberle trade is the big issue, because Edmonton didn’t have (and still doesn’t have) a replacement talent for the hole created. If you were going to trade two years of Eberle for five years of Strome, there needed to be another deal to bring in the new Eberle, and of course Strome needed to fill a need.

The best deal could have been Aberg but the organization moved away from him like a bullet leaves a gun. Too bad, he sure looks good in Anaheim. Many people talked about his sleeping in and missing practice as costly, but the last line of the sentence turned out to be “for the Oilers” and that’s a fact.

I think Marody represents good value for a few months of Maroon, his pass last night on the winner was outstanding. I don’t know when or where he’ll land but in my opinion the young man could help the Oilers power play now, today.

Strome for Spooner didn’t make a lot of sense, because Spooner is a lefty playmaker and the Oilers have several elite players of this type. It never made sense to me, although in my opinion Spooner is an NHL player (just not being utilized properly because the team has his skills duplicated several times over).

As a group, these trades are decidedly unimpressive. The addition of Keith Gretzky has helped (in my opinion) in drafting and free agency, although it’s not certain he has a lot to do with the free agent aspect.

What’s the conclusion? I think avoiding the trade route is probably wise for this organization. It can be done, Lou in New Jersey made few trades over decades and Kevin Cheveldayoff in Winnipeg does the same thing in modern times.

You’d like to have that option, but the Oilers haven’t established any kind of track record that would leave one confident in the team’s next trade.

FIVE YEARS

Five years into Jujhar Khaira’s pro career, he was not close to being an established NHL player. In fact, his NHL totals (25, 1-2-3) suggested the team was looking at an offensively challenged fourth liner who might have trouble keeping up.

Since then, Khaira is 102, 13-21-34 and has a 5-on-5 per 60 number (1.58) that is solid and improving (he’s at 2.03/60 this year). Khaira is one of the 1994’s Peter Chiarelli mentioned over a year ago, and may represent the highest NHL ceiling in that group (although Caggiula and Benning also remain in the race).

When we talk about prospects in the final two years of their junior careers, or in their entry deals, it’s important to keep in mind prospects don’t develop in a straight line. I’ve been reading online that Ethan Bear has fallen off and can’t be considered a strong future option, and that Kailer Yamamoto’s career is off to a horrible start at the pro level and that will impact his NHL future.

Prospects don’t work that way, they really don’t work that way at all. There are thousands of examples over a hockey lifetime. Jujhar Khaira is one.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A fun show today, we’ll dig down in some interesting areas and have our first real chat about the 2019 draft. At 10 this morning, TSN1260, scheduled to appear:

  • Andy McNamara, TSN4Downs. We’ll chat NFL weekend and playoff implications, and why no one wants to play the Browns.
  • Bill Hoppe, Olean Times-Herald. What is going on with Patrik Berglund?
  • Corey Pronman, The Athletic. World Juniors, plus a quick look at the 2019 NHL draft.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Western Conference Playoff Standing using Points Percentage expressed as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    WPG 12
    NSH 11
    COL 9

    Pacific
    CGY 11
    SJS 8
    ANA 7

    Wildcard
    EDM 4
    VGK 4
    ————
    Out of playoffs
    MIN 3
    DAL 3
    VAN -1
    STL -2
    ARI -3
    CHI -8
    LAK -8

    Pacific and MIN/DAL games tonight:

    ANA at BOS – I hope Marchand bites off Getzlaf’s nose
    MIN at PIT – PIT with gritty and emotional win over WSH last night. Hope they have something left.
    CHI at DAL – DAL smacking down CGY 2-0 the other day doesn’t bode well….
    TBY at CGY – Should be an interesting game to watch. Does CGY bouce back from the bad game vs DAL? Can they vs TBY?
    MTL at ARI – Bleh
    STL at VAN – Can STL keep it going? Have won 3 of last 4.
    NYI at VGK – Interesting game. NYI in a dog fight with PIT now for 3rd in Metro.
    WPG at SJS – Two very good teams. In their last 5 games WPG has lost to LAK and CHI and gone to OT (and won) vs EDM, CHI and TBY. To say they are “uneven” lately is an understatement.

    I’m cheering for BOS, PIT, CHI, STL, NYI and WPG.

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Perusing the late posts on yesterday’s thread where people were kibitzing line combos and and really like this one from Katz_Kat:

    Khaira/McDavid/Puljujarvi – Lets face it, Khaira and Puljujarvi have developed some form of chemistry, let them help each other and McDavid
    Rieder/Draisaitl/Chiasson – wasn’t broken before Reider was broken.
    Caggiula/RNH/Rattie – Neither are that bad of goal scorers when given talent to play with.
    Lucic/Brodziak/Kassian – cause they don’t bleed

    https://lowetide.ca/2018/12/19/shame-on-the-moon/#comment-795751

    I agree that Hitch can’t continue to run any forward over 23 minutes and only McDavid over 21-ish.

    This would help that and *probably* have 4 lines that don’t bleed.

  3. Ryan says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Western Conference Playoff Standing using Points Percentage expressed as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    WPG12
    NSH11
    COL9

    Pacific
    CGY11
    SJS8
    ANA7

    Wildcard
    EDM4
    VGK4
    ————
    Out of playoffs
    MIN3
    DAL3
    VAN-1
    STL-2
    ARI-3
    CHI-8
    LAK-8

    Pacific and MIN/DAL games tonight:

    ANA at BOS – I hope Marchand bites off Getzlaf’s nose
    MIN at PIT – PIT with gritty and emotional win over WSH last night.Hope they have something left.
    CHI at DAL – DAL smacking down CGY 2-0 the other day doesn’t bode well….
    TBY at CGY – Should be an interesting game to watch. Does CGY bouce back from the bad game vs DAL? Can they vs TBY?
    MTL at ARI – Bleh
    STL at VAN – Can STL keep it going? Have won 3 of last 4.
    NYI at VGK – Interesting game.NYI in a dog fight with PIT now for 3rd in Metro.
    WPG at SJS – Two very good teams.In their last 5 games WPG has lost to LAK and CHI and gone to OT (and won) vs EDM, CHI and TBY.To say they are “uneven” lately is an understatement.

    I’m cheering for BOS, PIT, CHI, STL, NYI and WPG.

    Please explain to me why you’re not cheering for the Bolts tonight? 🙂

  4. godot10 says:

    Chiarelli and Keith Gretzky should not have bitten on one of their former players…i.e. Spooner. Only coaches should be allowed to do that, and as a general rule, management should not.

  5. Lowetide says:

    godot10:
    Chiarelli and Keith Gretzky should not have bitten on one of their former players…i.e. Spooner.Only coaches should be allowed to do that, and as a general rule, management should not.

    And for crying out loud find someone whose skills are not duplicated across the roster. Spooner is an excellent passer on a team of stunning passers. So, the roles you’d want him in, he doesn’t have access to because a superior option is readily available.

  6. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Western Conference Playoff Standing using Points Percentage expressed as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    WPG12
    NSH11
    COL9

    Pacific
    CGY11
    SJS8
    ANA7

    Wildcard
    EDM4
    VGK4
    ————
    Out of playoffs
    MIN3
    DAL3
    VAN-1
    STL-2
    ARI-3
    CHI-8
    LAK-8

    Pacific and MIN/DAL games tonight:

    ANA at BOS – I hope Marchand bites off Getzlaf’s nose
    MIN at PIT – PIT with gritty and emotional win over WSH last night.Hope they have something left.
    CHI at DAL – DAL smacking down CGY 2-0 the other day doesn’t bode well….
    TBY at CGY – Should be an interesting game to watch. Does CGY bouce back from the bad game vs DAL? Can they vs TBY?
    MTL at ARI – Bleh
    STL at VAN – Can STL keep it going? Have won 3 of last 4.
    NYI at VGK – Interesting game.NYI in a dog fight with PIT now for 3rd in Metro.
    WPG at SJS – Two very good teams.In their last 5 games WPG has lost to LAK and CHI and gone to OT (and won) vs EDM, CHI and TBY.To say they are “uneven” lately is an understatement.

    I’m cheering for BOS, PIT, CHI, STL, NYI and WPG.

    Danger Will Robinson. Klingberg will be back soon in Dallas.

  7. russ99 says:

    Lowetide,

    I think we’re selling Spooner short. His value is as a center, not as a offense-only skill winger, people are getting swayed by a fluke hot streak last year to pencil him in as such.

    Would love to see a post x-mas clearout of a couple of excess forwards to give him a shot with some decent wingers, maybe Jesse and Khaira would work:

    Caggiula (or Shooter X, wouldn’t mind seeing Maroon back) – McDavid – Draisaitl
    Reider – RNH – Chiasson
    Lucic – Brodziak – Kassian
    Khaira – Spooner – Puljujarvi

    Would like to see Zykov (another player fans are dismissing because he obviously doesn’t fit the skill winger profile, and never has) tried on the third line instead of Kassian.

  8. OriginalPouzar says:

    1pm flight on Friday to Toronto

    10pm – 13 hour and change flight to Abu Dhabi

    9:20pm Saturday night – 5 hour flight to Colombo, Sri Lanka

    3:30 am arrive in Colombo

    3 hour transport to the south coast

    Itinerary does not start until 4pm so I’ve booked the Weligama Bay resort l to check in when we arrive around 8am

    With the 12.5 hour time change, 8am Sunday morning is 7:30pm Saturday night in Edmonton – Oilers/Lightning starts at 8pm

    Options:

    1) Sleep for a few hours

    2) hotel gym followed by Oilers game on GameCenter

    Wife says option 1.

    OP says option 2.

  9. dustrock says:

    People are talking about Spooner being decent a few years ago. Recent track record across several teams is poor. Is not past behaviour the best predictor of future behaviour?

    Unless you’re Khaira, i suppose.

    Please get Chiasson off the top line kthxbye

  10. Ari says:

    LT, or anybody,

    What should we be expecting in Points per 60 for a 1st liner? 2nd? 3rd liner?

  11. Primetime says:

    russ99:
    Lowetide,

    Caggiula (or Shooter X, wouldn’t mind seeing Maroon back) – McDavid – Draisaitl
    Reider – RNH – Chiasson
    Lucic – Brodziak – Kassian
    Khaira – Spooner – Puljujarvi

    Would like to see Zykov tried on the third line instead of Kassian.

    Think you meant Zykov tried on third line instead of Lucic! Ha! Honestly though, I think that would be a better line with at least a chance of scoring a goal…

    I really like your lines otherwise…I think this is what Hitch should go with. Will be interesting to see what he does with a few days to practice.

  12. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Strome’s numbers have been brutal in NYR so I’m not upset about that trade. Running like a 35% xGF through 14 games.

    Spooner needs to be the 3rd best player on a 2nd line I think.

    Spooner-Draisaitl-XXXX

    Need a 2RW first and foremost

  13. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide: And for crying out loud find someone whose skills are not duplicated across the roster. Spooner is an excellent passer on a team of stunning passers. So, the roles you’d want him in, he doesn’t have access to because a superior option is readily available.

    Would you say that you should take a more passive approach to those types of players?

  14. russ99 says:

    Primetime,

    Actually I like Zykov at RW rather than Kassian.

    Kassian has 3 points all year (to Lucic’s 7) and would be a prime target to move in a deal to a team that needs grit to clear the forward logjam and clear some cap space.

  15. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Ryan: Please explain to me why you’re not cheering for the Bolts tonight?

    Did that actually need to be stated? 🙂

  16. Bos8 says:

    Of course not mentioning that Lucic played up and down the lineup while Kassian got dog biscuits under MacT.

  17. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10: Danger Will Robinson.Klingberg will be back soon in Dallas.

    He’s back tonight

    They’ve been practicing:
    Lindell-Klingberg
    Heiskenen-Polak

    When Carrick comes back they probably move him into Polak’s spot.

    Danger indeed sir.

  18. ArmchairGM says:

    Lots of talk yesterday about Parayko, but isn’t Pietrangelo the player-type most needed on this roster?

  19. dcsj says:

    Roller Derby! Man, it was awful, but you couldn’t look away!

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    We are pretty lucky that Khaira isn’t emerging in Vegas.

    Up and till last season, I never imagined Khaira would be any more that a fourth line energy player with PK ability reliant on speed and size. I didn’t think he had the hands or puck skills to be more.

    I am glad I was wrong.

    The question with respect to JJ is will he be able to find consistency to be a middle six player – he has had lots of ups and downs since establishing himself as an every day NHL player.

  21. jake70 says:

    “”When we talk about prospects in the final two years of their junior careers, or in their entry deals, it’s important to keep in mind prospects don’t develop in a straight line. I’ve been reading online that Ethan Bear has fallen off and can’t be considered a strong future option, and that Kailer Yamamoto’s career is off to a horrible start at the pro level and that will impact his NHL future.

    Prospects don’t work that way, they really don’t work that way at all. There are thousands of examples over a hockey lifetime. Jujhar Khaira is one.””

    So true LT. Just critical in cap era to not get caught giving over-inflated contracts to these types as they climb the development ladder to being established NHL players. It takes super patience by the organization.

  22. jtblack says:

    Given the Tough Schedule ; poor start under TMac and the Fact Lucic hasn’t scored – Dec.20th. OILERS in a playoff spot? I will take it !!

    I honestly predicted them to be out of a playoff position by now.

    The HITCHMAS MIRACLE has saved them ….. temporarily

    We Wait.

  23. Bos8 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    We are pretty lucky that Khaira isn’t emerging in Vegas.

    Up and till last season, I never imagined Khaira would be any more that a fourth line energy player with PK ability reliant on speed and size.I didn’t think he had the hands or puck skills to be more.

    I am glad I was wrong.

    The question with respect to JJ is will he be able to find consistency to be a middle six player – he has had lots of ups and downs since establishing himself as an every day NHL player.

    Because they keep changing his role and line mates every few games. Same with PJ.

  24. godot10 says:

    ArmchairGM:
    Lots of talk yesterday about Parayko, but isn’t Pietrangelo the player-type most needed on this roster?

    Pieterangelo has one year left on his contract and then is due a big raise heading into his #Lucic years. Parayko is signed and cost-controlled for 3 more years entering his prime years.

  25. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Ari:
    LT, or anybody,

    What should we be expecting in Points per 60 for a 1st liner?2nd?3rd liner?

    The Generally Accepted 5v5 Scoring levels are:

    1st line 2.00+
    2nd line 1.75-2.00
    3rd line 1.50-1.75
    4th line 1.00-1.50

    Those aren’t written in stone, but are guidelines.

  26. Wonder Llama says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Perusing the late posts on yesterday’s thread where people were kibitzing line combos and and really like this one from Katz_Kat:

    Khaira/McDavid/Puljujarvi – Lets face it, Khaira and Puljujarvi have developed some form of chemistry, let them help each other and McDavid
    Rieder/Draisaitl/Chiasson – wasn’t broken before Reider was broken.
    Caggiula/RNH/Rattie – Neither are that bad of goal scorers when given talent to play with.
    Lucic/Brodziak/Kassian – cause they don’t bleed

    That is the first lline of the future, I think. Whether that future is this or next season I’m not sure.

    I llike all of these with a bit of a worry about Nuge. Maybe Zykov in for Caligula?

    Llove how Khaira is coming in to his own.

    Llet fury have the hour, anger can be power.

    Llondon Calling has to be in the conversation for best double album in rock history. And then they followed it up with a TRIPLE album the NEXT YEAR!

  27. godot10 says:

    jake70:
    “”When we talk about prospects in the final two years of their junior careers, or in their entry deals, it’s important to keep in mind prospects don’t develop in a straight line. I’ve been reading online that Ethan Bear has fallen off and can’t be considered a strong future option, and that Kailer Yamamoto’s career is off to a horrible start at the pro level and that will impact his NHL future.

    Prospects don’t work that way, they really don’t work that way at all. There are thousands of examples over a hockey lifetime. Jujhar Khaira is one.””

    So true LT.Just critical in cap era tonot get caught giving over-inflated contracts to these types as they climb the development ladder to being established NHL players. It takes super patience by the organization.

    I recall there were some people suggesting that Yamamoto was ready in his draft + 1 year, and then again ready in his draft + 2 year. So expectations were raised on arrival time.

    There were others suggesting that Yamamoto should have been sent down before seeing any actioin in his draft + 1 year, that 9 games was a bad idea, and players like him typically took two years in the AHL to be ready.

    Hope triumphed over realism for most of the oilogosphere and Oilers management and coaching staff.

  28. jtblack says:

    godot10: I recall there were some people suggesting that Yamamoto was ready in his draft + 1 year, and then again ready in his draft + 2 year.So expectations were raised on arrival time.

    There were others suggesting that Yamamoto should have been sent down before seeing any actioin in his draft + 1 year, that 9 games was a bad idea, and players like him typically took two years in the AHL to be ready.

    Hope triumphed over realism for most of the oilogosphere and Oilers management and coaching staff.

    Whats your point?

  29. ArmchairGM says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Perusing the late posts on yesterday’s thread where people were kibitzing line combos and and really like this one from Katz_Kat:

    Khaira/McDavid/Puljujarvi – Lets face it, Khaira and Puljujarvi have developed some form of chemistry, let them help each other and McDavid
    Rieder/Draisaitl/Chiasson – wasn’t broken before Reider was broken.
    Caggiula/RNH/Rattie – Neither are that bad of goal scorers when given talent to play with.
    Lucic/Brodziak/Kassian – cause they don’t bleed

    https://lowetide.ca/2018/12/19/shame-on-the-moon/#comment-795751

    I agree that Hitch can’t continue to run any forward over 23 minutes and only McDavid over 21-ish.

    This would help that and *probably* have 4 lines that don’t bleed.

    The lines look good, but who’s going to win the board battles on line 3?

  30. godot10 says:

    jtblack: Whats your point?

    Expectations on the arrival time for Yamamoto were pumped in the Oilogosphere and within the Oilers brain trust over realistic expectations.

    The reaction to that is that many people are now down somewhat on Yamamoto’s prospects.

    This would not have been the case if people had just acknowledged the timeline of Yamamoto’s comparables which is typically is draft+4 as reasonable for Yamamoto.

  31. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Re: Khaira’s scoring.

    This is example number 3212234 of “who you play with matters a lot”

    Here is every forward Khaira has played at least 50 5v5 minutes with over this season and last:

    With TOI With
    Zack Kassian 326.0
    Ryan Strome 278.5
    Jesse Puljujarvi 219.9
    Leon Draisaitl 184.1
    Kyle Brodziak 155.3
    Drake Caggiula 150.9
    Iiro Pakarinen 147.6
    Anton Slepyshev 97.1
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 95.3
    Mark Letestu 83.6
    Mike Cammalleri 80.9
    Milan Lucic 69.2

    Here is Khaira’s 5v5 pts/60 with each of these players (in the TOI order)
    With Pts/60
    Zack Kassian 1.47
    Ryan Strome 1.94
    Jesse Puljujarvi 2.18
    Leon Draisaitl 2.61
    Kyle Brodziak 1.55
    Drake Caggiula 1.59
    Iiro Pakarinen 0.81
    Anton Slepyshev 1.24
    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 2.52
    Mark Letestu 2.15
    Mike Cammalleri 0.00
    Milan Lucic 0.00

    Those results shout “Capable Top 9 scoring forward”

    You can see why McLellan played him on the 4th line and made him a healthy scratch right? 🙂

    Also,

    These results surprised me in their quality:

    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 2.52
    Leon Draisaitl 2.61

    Unicorns is possible dammit!!!

  32. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ArmchairGM: The lines look good, but who’s going to win the board battles on line 3?

    Rattie is pretty decent on the boards.

    I’m meh on Caggiula

  33. OmJo says:

    Bos8: Because they keep changing his role and line mates every few games.Same with PJ.

    This.

    I don’t think we as fans can really appreciate how important it is to be given a consistent role on a consistent line. How are players expected to be consistent if the coach isn’t?

    TMac spent his entire tenure here trying to figure out a lineup for the Oilers. McDavid said this in September:

    “I’m definitely hopeful that there’s a line that clicks so we can build and work on our game together. Last year, we kind of bounced around lines and we didn’t find something solid until the end of the year.”

    TMac ultimately let politics get in the way of creating the optimal lineup.

  34. DocFan says:

    Maybe this has been discussed to death, but just watched the Khaira cross check. While I don’t condone his response, it seems like Dunn’s initial reaction was to take Khaira’s head off because he got hit (cleanly IMHO). Then Khaira does the same thing, but with more strength (as we would expect).

    So…don’t both have intent to injure here? Why is Dunn not suspended? Clearly, he intended to injure JJ with his actions as well.

  35. ArmchairGM says:

    godot10: Pieterangelo has one year left on his contract and then is due a big raise heading into his #Lucic years.Parayko is signed and cost-controlled for 3 more years entering his prime years.

    I’m well aware of their ages and contract situations and it has absolutely nothing to do with my question. My question is about player-type.

  36. ArmchairGM says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Rattie is pretty decent on the boards.

    I’m meh on Caggiula

    Yeah, I was going to suggest Zykov in for Caggiula.

  37. jtblack says:

    godot10: Expectations on the arrival time for Yamamoto were pumped in the Oilogosphere and within the Oilers brain trust over realistic expectations.

    The reaction to that is that many people are now down somewhat on Yamamoto’s prospects.

    This would not have been the case if people had just acknowledged the timeline of Yamamoto’s comparables which is typically is draft+4 as reasonable for Yamamoto.

    I thinknyou are correct I also think some did acknowledge that exact timeline; comparing Yammy to Tyler Johnson.

    The org has to give every prospect a chance eaarly because nobody knows if that prospect can Monahan, Debrincat or whomever you want to use; that just steps in and is a player right after draft or junior.

    Most don”t; but the odd one does.

  38. v4ance says:

    One name who has been bandied about as a possible trade target is Wayne Simmonds. I would suggest he is exactly the wrong target to aim for. Simmonds is a 30 year old and has played a robust style that tends to wear out players at an earlier age.

    One thing I’ve always advocated for is looking for and acquiring developing players or mid-career veterans. Generally guys younger than 28 years old. Guys like Aberg, Rattie, Gravel,etc. who may have been blocked in their former organizations.

    If anything, Khaira is exactly the player we should have in the lineup over someone like Simmonds. JJ is in his peak years or just entering them and should provide two or three good years of production going forward. With Simmonds, he’s either at the start of his “Lucic” decline or already in the downward slope.

  39. OmJo says:

    I would just like to shamelessly throw it out there that I was one of the few suggesting Khaira should be tried in the top 6 this season, ideally in place of Lucic, even if he hadn’t earned it at the time.

    I’m not right very often so this is a moment of celebration.

    Nice to have a coach with the patience to put players in positions to succeed – and keep them there for a full period let alone multiple games in a row.

    Also, I would like to see Nurse on the PP more. His 5v5 scoring is solid IMO, and with some PP practice (I don’t know whether he did any while TMac was here considering TMac never saw him as a PP option) I think he could grow into that role. And keep him away from Russell 5v5 please.

  40. OmJo says:

    DocFan:
    Maybe this has been discussed to death, but just watched the Khaira cross check. While I don’t condone his response, it seems like Dunn’s initial reaction was to take Khaira’s head off because he got hit (cleanly IMHO). Then Khaira does the same thing, but with more strength (as we would expect).

    So…don’t both have intent to injure here? Why is Dunn not suspended? Clearly, he intended to injure JJ with his actions as well.

    The league has a different angle of the crosschecks showing Khaira had more intent to injure than Dunn.

  41. OmJo says:

    v4ance:
    One name who has been bandied about as a possible trade target is Wayne Simmonds.I would suggest he is exactly the wrong target to aim for.Simmonds is a 30 year old and has played a robust style that tends to wear out players at an earlier age.

    One thing I’ve always advocated for is looking for and acquiring developing players or mid-career veterans.Generally guys younger than 28 years old.Guys like Aberg, Rattie, Gravel,etc. who may have been blocked in their former organizations.

    If anything, Khaira is exactly the player we should have in the lineup over someone like Simmonds.JJ is in his peak years or just entering them and should provide two or three good years of production going forward.With Simmonds, he’s either at the start of his “Lucic” decline or already in the downward slope.

    Why have one Lucic when we can have two?

    The quest for the most expensive 4th line in league history continues.

  42. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Lowetide: And for crying out loud find someone whose skills are not duplicated across the roster. Spooner is an excellent passer on a team of stunning passers. So, the roles you’d want him in, he doesn’t have access to because a superior option is readily available.

    The good news is that at least Spooner is a LEFTY passer. Oh, wait

  43. McSorley33 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Long travel day….

    Can you get Game Centre worldwide?

  44. Katz_kat says:

    ArmchairGM,

    I simply put Caggiula in because none of the coaches seem unwilling to keep him out. If you put Zykov in you probably take out Rattie, because Hitchcock. I think we are starting to see the results though if giving Puljujarvi consistency and confidence. He’s been good for a couple of games now, and really st the Blues game Khaira and Puljujarvi were the only forwards who were on their game. Give them a reward, and see if things jive with McDavid. I think Khaira has been criminally underrated for a while now. Big fan.

    Also think you need to get Rieder going if you expect to have a consistent top 6. That’s what he was brought in here to do right?

  45. OmJo says:

    McSorley33:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Long travel day….

    Can you get Game Centre worldwide?

    With a VPN maybe?

  46. drglen says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    hmm, Id like to see Khaira with Connor and Jesse actually, for at least a 2 or 3 game stretch. If that worked , that frees leon in all sorts of permutations.

  47. drglen says:

    What has happened to Drake? Drake should be a hungry press box player.

    I have a theory that Drake is only effective when he gets in to some kind of ‘all game’ duel with a player on the other team. If the other team says, ‘meh, he’s not worth getting mad at’… then Drake just kind of coasts.

    I think the time has finally come to sit Lucic. (He’s just so darn durable you can’t get him out of the lineup on injury.) I really liked the look of Kassian and Brodz, with Rieder, so I hope coach goes back to that.

  48. OriginalPouzar says:

    RNH-McDavid-Puljujarvi
    Rieder-Draisaitl-Chiasson
    Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian
    Lucic-Khaira (susp)-Rattie
    Spooner likely in for Khaira, Zykov

  49. OriginalPouzar says:

    That is a phenomenal change to the lines.

  50. texmex says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Neither Larsson nor Russel are on the ice……………………..

  51. NicaOil says:

    McSorley33,

    Yes for sure I can watch every game live or the next day and without a vpn if you purchase it from the NHL and not from Rogers. I live in Nicaragua and purchase it every year for around $100 USD and then travel about. I am currently vacationing in Puerto Vallarta Mexico and using my Asus mini-pc with wifi of 10 Mbps the quality of the video and audio is HD.

  52. Kaptain Vikarious says:

    Woodguy v2.0: The Generally Accepted 5v5 Scoring levels are:

    1st line 2.00+
    2nd line 1.75-2.00
    3rd line 1.50-1.75
    4th line 1.00-1.50

    Those aren’t written in stone, but are guidelines.

    Contrary to popular belief WG, I believe they were an addendum at the bottom of the tablets when Moses came down from Mount Sinai.
    🙂

  53. texmex says:

    I wonder if Pittsburgh would be interested in Looch (50% retained) or Kass as a Tom Wilson deterrent?

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-happened-philadelphias-messy-hakstol-firing/

    See thought 24

  54. who says:

    NicaOil:
    McSorley33,

    Yes for sure I can watch every game live or the next day and without a vpn if you purchase it from the NHL and not from Rogers.I live in Nicaragua and purchase it every year for around $100 USD and then travel about.I am currently vacationing in Puerto Vallarta Mexico and using my Asus mini-pc with wifi of 10 Mbps the quality of the video and audio is HD.

    I am as non techy as it gets so you’ll have to speak slowly but I have some questions.
    What’s a VPN? And can I use it on a smart TV?
    Going south for a month and the house we are renting has the TV but just the local cable pkg. Would love to get Oiler games while I’m down there. What’s the simplest way?

  55. Durag says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    RNH-McDavid-Puljujarvi
    Rieder-Draisaitl-Chiasson
    Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian
    Lucic-Khaira (susp)-Rattie
    Spooner likely in for Khaira, Zykov

    Love it. Lucic-Spooner-Rattie is a bit of an Island of Misfit Toys line, but what are you going to do.

  56. who says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    RNH-McDavid-Puljujarvi
    Rieder-Draisaitl-Chiasson
    Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian
    Lucic-Khaira (susp)-Rattie
    Spooner likely in for Khaira, Zykov

    That is quite a shuffle if those are the lines on Saturday.
    I think it’s too soon for JP with McDavid. Would rather see him with Nuge and Khaira for another month.
    But since Khaira is suspended and Nuge is with McDavid maybe this is the best case scenario.
    They had to do something with the top line but this is major surgery. I probably would have just started with swapping Rattie for Chiasson but this could work too.

  57. OmJo says:

    drglen: I think the time has finally come to sit Lucic. (He’s just so darn durable you can’t get him out of the lineup on injury.) I really liked the look of Kassian and Brodz, with Rieder, so I hope coach goes back to that.

    What would you trade Lamoreillo for a ticket to Robidas Island for Milan Lucic?

  58. OmJo says:

    who: I am as non techy as it gets so you’ll have to speak slowly but I have some questions.
    What’s a VPN? And can I use it on a smart TV?
    Going south for a month and the house we are renting has the TV but just the local cable pkg. Would love to get Oiler games while I’m down there. What’s the simplest way?

    A VPN changes your IP address, hiding your online identity and making it look like you are residing in a different country/area (if you so choose).

    There should be some VPN apps you can download for your smart TV, phone, computer, etc.

    You could try NHL Streams on Reddit? Probably the easiest way to watch games online.

  59. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    who,

    A VPN is a virtual private network — essentially it allows you to mask your location so your Internet service provider and websites you visit cannot easily access your identity and location. Handy for getting around regional restrictions, like blackouts, for instance.

    If you can bring a laptop or tablet with an HDMI out, you can plug into the TV and stream games that way (provided the local cable package is found lacking). There are a number of good options out there, a couple I use often are:
    https://reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/
    http://www.onhockey.tv

    If you have an Android device you can download CastStreams from their website and log in with a Google account, and stream NHL Game Centre for free. Works very well, a simple 2-click process once it’s all set up.

  60. New Improved Darkness says:

    OriginalPouzar: With the 12.5 hour time change, 8am Sunday morning is 7:30pm Saturday night in Edmonton – Oilers/Lightning starts at 8pm

    Sleep science is evolving at a break-neck speed right now. Turns out the liver marches to its own drum, unless your meal times become so erratic that it loses the day/night plot, and only then does it pay attention to the “master” conductor, aka the traditional body clock of the SCN.

    Turns out that rampaging proteomics has uncovered many interlocking oscillatory pathways, and every organ seemingly invests in different oscillatory pathways to different degrees. Probably a big part of the jet lag symptomology is that all your organs go madly off in all directions after you slam your big toe on the International Date Line (while otherwise sitting IDL in some grotesquely underpressurized aluminum pipe can).

    So, of course, we eat on the plane, because there’s not much else to do, which confuses the fuck out of your liver when you deplane in the early AM at T +/- 12. Turns out those permanently Up in the Air folks were right after all—my long skepticism recently went out the window with a boom—about structured meal times on flight day: structured around your destination time-zone ASAP.

    Also, there’s mounting evidence now that long-term middle-age weight gain is caused by the invention of indoor refrigeration: having a cold one—cold ham sandwich packed with sweet gherkin pickles and mayonnaise—close to hand sixteen hours a day (or more). It takes a good 12 hours of eating SFA—tea or black coffee is okay—for insulin levels to approach a resting baseline (sweet fuck all is the only sugar you’re allowed during your fast). If your insulin never returns to baseline—not for a decades at a go—the body’s butter blanket set-point starts its slow, inexorable drift upwards—until the slender-legged onset of “get off my lawn”.

    Speaking of which, this morning I encountered a most pathetic invocation of “uphill in both directions”—a real doozy specimen of “get off my lawn” yawn-porn.

    As I contemplated how to frame this awe-inspiring pinnacle of not even a prairie dog mound in the great Saskatchewan outback, it suddenly occurred to me that this genre almost certainly dates back to the first time an ingenious chimpanzee decided to fish for termites using a fresh-plucked pubic hair—because none of the nearby grass was suitable (it certainly helped that this particular chimpanzee’s mother was a Brillo pad, and his father was a toilet brush).

    I presume this highly effective termite-fishing strategy caught on for 500,000 years, until the termites wised up, and then it was no longer effective and the fine art of sacrilege was lost to posterity (“sacrilege” being the old Moroccan term for manfully plucking out a termite tickler; how this passed into French, before being passed back to Morocco—with an entirely new meaning—is unrecorded).

    Pubic hair remains stiff and wiry to this day for this ancient evolutionary reason.

    The first time a greybeard proto-human with bald testicles growled “get off my lawn” everyone howled and cried for days afterward, and the world has never been the same since.

    And that’s why we’re still so obsessed with yard work: there’s a long subliminal history for a thriving patch of manicured grass as genital proxy.

    Nor is it an accident that ‘tuft’ and ‘turf’ can both be enunciated with force through clenched teeth.

    Which—as it now turns out—is also a recommended strategy when flying through a dozen time zones, inverted vampire casket antipode in either direction (most people don’t know this, but there’s also an underside lid, just in case of a long sea voyage; their kind having long predated Newton, while easily his rival in remaining stubbornly superstitious).

    (That rare day when you’re in the pink to take on Lucy in a sudden-death ‘splain-off.)

    Edit: somehow “sacrilege” slipped through my fingers in the first cut.

  61. Oilin4 says:

    New Improved Darkness: Sleep science is evolving at a break-neck speed right now. Turns out the liver marches to its own drum, unless your meal times become so erratic that it loses the day/night plot, and only then does it pay attention to the “master” conductor, aka the traditional body clock of the SCN.

    Turns out that rampaging proteomics has uncovered many interlocking oscillatory pathways, and every organ seemingly invests in different oscillatory pathways to different degrees. Probably a big part of the jet lag symptomology is that all your organs go madly off in all directions after you slam your big toe on the International Date Line (while otherwise sitting IDL in some grotesquely underpressurized aluminum pipe can).

    So, of course, we eat on the plane, because there’s not much else to do, which confuses the fuck out of your liver when you deplane in the early AM at T +/- 12. Turns out those permanently Up in the Air folks were right after all—my long skepticism recently went out the window with a boom—about structured meal times on flight day: structured around your destination time-zone ASAP.

    Also, there’s mounting evidence now that long-term middle-age weight gain is caused by the invention of indoor refrigeration: having a cold one—cold ham sandwich packed with sweet gherkin pickles and mayonnaise—close to hand sixteen hours a day (or more).It takes a good 12 hours of eating SFA—tea or black coffee is okay—for insulin levels to approach a resting baseline (sweet fuck all is the only sugar you’re allowed during your fast). If your insulin never returns to baseline—not for a decades at a go—the body’s butter blanket set-point starts its slow, inexorable drift upwards—until the slender-legged onset of “get off my lawn”.

    Speaking of which, this morning I encountered a most pathetic invocation of “uphill in both directions”—a real doozy specimen of “get off my lawn” yawn-porn.

    As I contemplated how to frame this awe-inspiring pinnacle of not even a prairie dog mound in the great Saskatchewan outback, it suddenly occurred to me that this genre almost certainly dates back to the first time an ingenious chimpanzee decided to fish for termites using a fresh-plucked pubic hair—because none of the nearby grass was suitable (it certainly helped that this particular chimpanzee’s mother was a Brillo pad, and his father was a toilet brush).

    I presume this highly effective termite-fishing strategy caught on for 500,000 years, until the termites wised up, and then it was no longer effective and the fine art of sacrilege was lost to posterity (“sacrilege” being the old Moroccan term for manfully plucking out a termite tickler; how this passed into French, before being passed back to Morocco—with an entirely new meaning—is unrecorded).

    Pubic hair remains stiff and wiry to this day for this ancient evolutionary reason.

    The first time a greybeard proto-human with bald testicles growled “get off my lawn” everyone howled and cried for days afterward, and the world has never been the same since.

    And that’s why we’re still so obsessed with yard work: there’s a long subliminal history for a thriving patch of manicured grass as genital proxy.

    Nor is it an accident that ‘tuft’ and ‘turf’ can both be enunciated with force through clenched teeth.

    Which—as it now turns out—is also a recommended strategy when flying through a dozen time zones, inverted vampire casket antipode in either direction (most people don’t know this, but there’s also an underside lid, just in case of a long sea voyage; their kind having long predated Newton, while easily his rival in remaining stubbornly superstitious).

    (That rare day when you’re in the pink to take on Lucy in a sudden-death ‘splain-off.)

    Edit: somehow “sacrilege” slipped through my fingers in the first cut.

    I read this twice and still have no idea what it means. Also, why did I read this?

  62. OilFire says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    1pm flight on Friday to Toronto

    10pm – 13 hour and change flight to Abu Dhabi

    9:20pm Saturday night – 5 hour flight to Colombo, Sri Lanka

    3:30 am arrive in Colombo

    In my opinion, Sri Lanka has pretty much the best food in the world. I’ve never visited but got connected to the food through the wife before she changed her first name to ex (no more connection to her mom’s food now). The food is generally much less oily and heavy than most of the “Indian” food available in Canada (homemade Indian food of course has many different styles).

    I know you’re a nazi on macros and totals OP, but vacation from it while there.

    Make sure to check out some of the bakeries to get “short eats.” Beef or lamb rotis in a fiery mango or date chutney is my favourite, try to get the ones where they put a hard boiled egg inside as an extra bonus. Also try mutton or ground lamb “chinese rolls” (deep fried stretchy crepes filled with curry), and fish cutlets (little curry filled balls with crunchy outsides).

    Rice is common, but also try the curry served in little roti-like bowls called hoppers (sometimes with a fried egg in the bottom– egg hoppers). They sometimes make a biryani out of shredded-up day-old hoppers that is pretty great too. Make sure to grab a bit of white bread and coconut sambol (looks like shredded coconut mixed with tomatoes/spices) for some delicious on-the-go snacks; the coconut sambol is a beautiful addition to really any meal.

    For dessert, give the Watalappan a try. It’s a interesting little pudding made with a type of treacle called jaggery and is very! strong in cardamom. It’s a love it or hate it thing.

    I have an extreme addiction to Sri Lankan dahl (the thick lentil stew, not the soup). I highly recommend mixing rice and dahl to go with your curries. If you’re careful, alternating bites of pure rice and mixed rice/dahl, and putting in bits of chutneys or sambols, no two bites are ever the same.

    I suspect you’re the kind of guy to have a pre-made itinerary rather than a wanderer, but if you’re still picking things to see there’s a couple of things I plan on doing when I get there eventually. I really want to taking the train to Kandy, which is a more temperate-clime mountain city, for a quite different-looking Sri Lanka. It’s also home to the Temple of the Tooth, which is a sort of pilgrimage site for Buddhists as(it holds one of Buddha’s teeth. I also want to visit Sigiriya. It’s sort of the Sri Lankan version of Masada, but I think quite a bit bigger and playing a role in history for longer.

  63. russ99 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    So a 5-3 loss then. Moving RNH from center to chase offense is a big mistake.

    Cost McLellan his job IMHO.

    I see Hitch doing it for one game to give Draisaitl a break minutes-wise.

  64. Shane says:

    New Improved Darkness: Sleep science is evolving at a break-neck speed right now. Turns out the liver marches to its own drum, unless your meal times become so erratic that it loses the day/night plot, and only then does it pay attention to the “master” conductor, aka the traditional body clock of the SCN.

    Turns out that rampaging proteomics has uncovered many interlocking oscillatory pathways, and every organ seemingly invests in different oscillatory pathways to different degrees. Probably a big part of the jet lag symptomology is that all your organs go madly off in all directions after you slam your big toe on the International Date Line (while otherwise sitting IDL in some grotesquely underpressurized aluminum pipe can).

    So, of course, we eat on the plane, because there’s not much else to do, which confuses the fuck out of your liver when you deplane in the early AM at T +/- 12. Turns out those permanently Up in the Air folks were right after all—my long skepticism recently went out the window with a boom—about structured meal times on flight day: structured around your destination time-zone ASAP.

    Also, there’s mounting evidence now that long-term middle-age weight gain is caused by the invention of indoor refrigeration: having a cold one—cold ham sandwich packed with sweet gherkin pickles and mayonnaise—close to hand sixteen hours a day (or more).It takes a good 12 hours of eating SFA—tea or black coffee is okay—for insulin levels to approach a resting baseline (sweet fuck all is the only sugar you’re allowed during your fast). If your insulin never returns to baseline—not for a decades at a go—the body’s butter blanket set-point starts its slow, inexorable drift upwards—until the slender-legged onset of “get off my lawn”.

    Speaking of which, this morning I encountered a most pathetic invocation of “uphill in both directions”—a real doozy specimen of “get off my lawn” yawn-porn.

    As I contemplated how to frame this awe-inspiring pinnacle of not even a prairie dog mound in the great Saskatchewan outback, it suddenly occurred to me that this genre almost certainly dates back to the first time an ingenious chimpanzee decided to fish for termites using a fresh-plucked pubic hair—because none of the nearby grass was suitable (it certainly helped that this particular chimpanzee’s mother was a Brillo pad, and his father was a toilet brush).

    I presume this highly effective termite-fishing strategy caught on for 500,000 years, until the termites wised up, and then it was no longer effective and the fine art of sacrilege was lost to posterity (“sacrilege” being the old Moroccan term for manfully plucking out a termite tickler; how this passed into French, before being passed back to Morocco—with an entirely new meaning—is unrecorded).

    Pubic hair remains stiff and wiry to this day for this ancient evolutionary reason.

    The first time a greybeard proto-human with bald testicles growled “get off my lawn” everyone howled and cried for days afterward, and the world has never been the same since.

    And that’s why we’re still so obsessed with yard work: there’s a long subliminal history for a thriving patch of manicured grass as genital proxy.

    Nor is it an accident that ‘tuft’ and ‘turf’ can both be enunciated with force through clenched teeth.

    Which—as it now turns out—is also a recommended strategy when flying through a dozen time zones, inverted vampire casket antipode in either direction (most people don’t know this, but there’s also an underside lid, just in case of a long sea voyage; their kind having long predated Newton, while easily his rival in remaining stubbornly superstitious).

    (That rare day when you’re in the pink to take on Lucy in a sudden-death ‘splain-off.)

    Edit: somehow “sacrilege” slipped through my fingers in the first cut.

    My UnderstandingNewAgeDarkness/60 is a little low but I laughed at a few things here.

  65. Shane says:

    New Improved Darkness: Sleep science is evolving at a break-neck speed right now. Turns out the liver marches to its own drum, unless your meal times become so erratic that it loses the day/night plot, and only then does it pay attention to the “master” conductor, aka the traditional body clock of the SCN.

    Turns out that rampaging proteomics has uncovered many interlocking oscillatory pathways, and every organ seemingly invests in different oscillatory pathways to different degrees. Probably a big part of the jet lag symptomology is that all your organs go madly off in all directions after you slam your big toe on the International Date Line (while otherwise sitting IDL in some grotesquely underpressurized aluminum pipe can).

    So, of course, we eat on the plane, because there’s not much else to do, which confuses the fuck out of your liver when you deplane in the early AM at T +/- 12. Turns out those permanently Up in the Air folks were right after all—my long skepticism recently went out the window with a boom—about structured meal times on flight day: structured around your destination time-zone ASAP.

    Also, there’s mounting evidence now that long-term middle-age weight gain is caused by the invention of indoor refrigeration: having a cold one—cold ham sandwich packed with sweet gherkin pickles and mayonnaise—close to hand sixteen hours a day (or more).It takes a good 12 hours of eating SFA—tea or black coffee is okay—for insulin levels to approach a resting baseline (sweet fuck all is the only sugar you’re allowed during your fast). If your insulin never returns to baseline—not for a decades at a go—the body’s butter blanket set-point starts its slow, inexorable drift upwards—until the slender-legged onset of “get off my lawn”.

    Speaking of which, this morning I encountered a most pathetic invocation of “uphill in both directions”—a real doozy specimen of “get off my lawn” yawn-porn.

    As I contemplated how to frame this awe-inspiring pinnacle of not even a prairie dog mound in the great Saskatchewan outback, it suddenly occurred to me that this genre almost certainly dates back to the first time an ingenious chimpanzee decided to fish for termites using a fresh-plucked pubic hair—because none of the nearby grass was suitable (it certainly helped that this particular chimpanzee’s mother was a Brillo pad, and his father was a toilet brush).

    I presume this highly effective termite-fishing strategy caught on for 500,000 years, until the termites wised up, and then it was no longer effective and the fine art of sacrilege was lost to posterity (“sacrilege” being the old Moroccan term for manfully plucking out a termite tickler; how this passed into French, before being passed back to Morocco—with an entirely new meaning—is unrecorded).

    Pubic hair remains stiff and wiry to this day for this ancient evolutionary reason.

    The first time a greybeard proto-human with bald testicles growled “get off my lawn” everyone howled and cried for days afterward, and the world has never been the same since.

    And that’s why we’re still so obsessed with yard work: there’s a long subliminal history for a thriving patch of manicured grass as genital proxy.

    Nor is it an accident that ‘tuft’ and ‘turf’ can both be enunciated with force through clenched teeth.

    Which—as it now turns out—is also a recommended strategy when flying through a dozen time zones, inverted vampire casket antipode in either direction (most people don’t know this, but there’s also an underside lid, just in case of a long sea voyage; their kind having long predated Newton, while easily his rival in remaining stubbornly superstitious).

    (That rare day when you’re in the pink to take on Lucy in a sudden-death ‘splain-off.)

    Edit: somehow “sacrilege” slipped through my fingers in the first cut.

    My UnderstandingNewAgeDarkness/60 is pretty low but I laughed at a few things here.

  66. Shane says:

    New Improved Darkness,

    My UnderstandingNewImprovedDarkness/60 is pretty low but I laughed at a few things here.

  67. flea says:

    who,

    Gamecenter is going to be the most reliable option. They have monthly purchase options too.

    https://secure.nhllive.rogers.com/pricing?ro=true&lang=en

    Since you’re heading out of the Oilers region, the games will not be blacked out. You’d be blacked out of any locally broadcast games – ie if you are going to Phoenix, the Oilers/Phoenix game would not be available.

    The only thing I’m unsure on is if Rogers Gamecenter Live works internationally. I think you’d want to confirm that before taking the plunge. Because once you’re in the states, you could buy the US version – NHL.tv. There is some work to do to get around a Canadian iPhone though, but any US based device should work fine. I think it might be cheaper too.

    You can muddle around with streams too if you want to go the cheap route. But if Rogers GCL works internationally, it should work fine for you for all Oilers regional and national games when you are out of the Alberta region.

  68. OriginalPouzar says:

    The shot to the foot last game is why Larsson isn’t on the ice today but coach said he should skate tomorrow.

    Russell not expected to play until the 27th.

  69. OriginalPouzar says:

    McSorley33:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Long travel day….

    Can you get Game Centre worldwide?

    I’ve used it in Honk Kong and, I believe I used it in Buenos Aires but can’t remember for sure (I was definitely watching a game from there on my computer).

    Can’t confirm it will work in Sri Lanka but I think it might.

  70. jp says:

    dustrock:
    People are talking about Spooner being decent a few years ago. Recent track record across several teams is poor.Is not past behaviour the best predictor of future behaviour?

    Any chance you could elaborate on what on earth you’re talking about?

    Do you mean: NYR and Edmonton Fall 2018?

    If you could point to the poor track record prior to this year I’d be happy to listen.

    FWIW, Spooner is +1 since Hitch took over, and has more points in fewer games (13-2-1-3) than Strome did before the trade (18-1-1-2 and -1). He’s still clearly not moving the needle, but he’s basically become pre-trade Strome.

  71. McSorley33 says:

    OmJo,

    Good point…That is what I do love about GameCentre – you can have it with you down in the US for
    vacation. Not so with DAZN.

  72. OriginalPouzar says:

    OmJo: With a VPN maybe?

    Actually, yes, I don’t know why I didn’t remember that’s how I’ve been doing it. When I connect my laptop to my work system, the “internet” thinks I’m in Ontario – gets me around lots of blackout and jurisdiction issues for various things when I travel.

    Duh!

  73. McSorley33 says:

    NicaOil,

    Yes for sure I can watch every game live or the next day and without a vpn if you purchase it from the NHL and not from Rogers. I live in Nicaragua and purchase it every year for around $100 USD and then travel about. I am currently vacationing in Puerto Vallarta Mexico and using my Asus mini-pc with wifi of 10 Mbps the quality of the video and audio is HD.
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    Thank you NicaOil…and good to hear from you.

  74. Buckys move says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    That’s good. I was thinking

    Gravel/ Jones
    Garrison/Benning (Parayko’s sticks got lost)
    Lowe/Wideman

  75. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilFire: In my opinion, Sri Lanka has pretty much the best food in the world.I’ve never visited but got connected to the food through the wife before she changed her first name to ex (no more connection to her mom’s food now).The food is generally much less oily and heavy than most of the “Indian” food available in Canada (homemade Indian food of course has many different styles).

    I know you’re a nazi on macros and totals OP, but vacation from it while there.

    Make sure to check out some of the bakeries to get “short eats.”Beef or lamb rotis in a fiery mango or date chutney is my favourite, try to get the ones where they put a hard boiled egg inside as an extra bonus.Also try mutton or ground lamb “chinese rolls” (deep fried stretchy crepes filled with curry), and fish cutlets (little curry filled balls with crunchy outsides).

    Rice is common, but also trythe curry served in little roti-like bowls called hoppers (sometimes with a fried egg in the bottom– egg hoppers).They sometimes make a biryani out of shredded-up day-old hoppers that is pretty great too.Make sure to grab a bit of white bread and coconut sambol (looks like shredded coconut mixed with tomatoes/spices) for some delicious on-the-go snacks; the coconut sambol is a beautiful addition to really any meal.

    For dessert, give the Watalappan a try. It’s a interesting little pudding made with a type of treacle called jaggery and is very! strong in cardamom.It’s a love it or hate it thing.

    I have an extreme addiction to Sri Lankan dahl (the thick lentil stew, not the soup).I highly recommend mixing rice and dahl to go with your curries.If you’re careful, alternating bites of pure rice and mixed rice/dahl, and putting in bits of chutneys or sambols, no two bites are ever the same.

    I suspect you’re the kind of guy to have a pre-made itinerary rather than a wanderer, but if you’re still picking things to see there’s a couple of things I plan on doing when I get there eventually. I really want to taking the train to Kandy, which is a more temperate-clime mountain city, for a quite different-looking Sri Lanka.It’s also home to the Temple of the Tooth, which is a sort of pilgrimage site for Buddhists as(it holds one of Buddha’s teeth. I also want to visit Sigiriya.It’s sort of the Sri Lankan version of Masada, but I think quite a bit bigger and playing a role in history for longer.

    Hey, thanks for all the recommendations.

    You are certainty right about the calories and the macros but I will most certainly not be “vacationing it” like most.

    I turned 42 yesterday but also confirmed 5.92% body fat (via the multiple skin fold/caliper test) or 6.9% (via the bod pod machine). I worked my ass off to get here and I’m not about to have it disappear in a few days (and, yes, it can and will if I don’t manage the food properly).

    You are absolutely right about me pre-planning things and that goes for the food as well on vacation – I will spend hours upon hours upon hours figuring out places to eat and what to eat. Thing is, for this trip, I can’t. We are literally on a 53 foot catamaran in the Indian Ocean for 7 days – I am at the whim of what they feed us on the boat.

    Don’t worry though, I will manage the calories and ensure I am not eating in an excess.

    At the same time, I do plan on “eating the food” and enjoying it, I will just ensure that I eat small enough poritions that I don’t eat in a calorie excess.

    It will be tough for me as I am a guy that eats super clean food, not because I need to but because the food goes MUCH farther, calorie-wise, and I get to eat more. I fill up on volume so I eat ALOT of food but its all low calorie food. I love it.

    On the trip, I believe I’ll be eating higher calorie food (and look forward to it) but much less volume.

    We do have 2 days in Colombo after we get off the boat – I love your itinerary recommendations, however, and we’ve looked in to some excursions (which we love to do) but we just won’t have the time. We’ll stick in Colombo.

    I will explore some of the food options you recommend during those two days.

    Thanks so much for your note.

  76. DasBavaria says:

    McSorley33,

    Worked great when I was in India a couple of years ago.
    edit: I may have used a VPN though.

  77. McSorley33 says:

    who,

    I am as non techy as it gets so you’ll have to speak slowly but I have some questions.
    What’s a VPN? And can I use it on a smart TV?
    Going south for a month and the house we are renting has the TV but just the local cable pkg. Would love to get Oiler games while I’m down there. What’s the simplest way?
    ***********************************************************************************************
    My kids call me a luddite so I am not sure I can help very much. Only offer what i do in the USA.

    My simple method ( I have Rogers GameCentre ) is to plug Ipad into the TV and watch.

    Hoping others may weigh in with a better answer for you.

  78. McSorley33 says:

    DasBavaria,

    Thank you….

  79. godot10 says:

    jtblack: I thinknyou are correctI also think some did acknowledge that exact timeline; comparing Yammy to Tyler Johnson.

    The org has to give every prospect a chance eaarly because nobody knows if that prospect can Monahan, Debrincat or whomever you want to use; that just steps in and is a player right after draft or junior.

    Most don”t; but the odd one does.

    The same with Bouchard. A normal projection is junior draft+1, AHL draft+2, 3rd pairing NHL D draft +3, 2nd pairing NHL D draft +4.

    One shouldn’t expect Bouchard to arrive as a 3rd pairing D till fall 2020.

  80. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    godot10,

    100%

    I cannot for the life of me understand how people are so bullish on him taking over big minutes as early as next year.

    He’s shown well in some areas but needs time to round out his game, especially when it comes to playing against men in the pros.

    When I suggested KY would more likely follow the Gaudreau or St. Louis or Johnson arc of development there was some backlash and yet, here we are. KY is likely to arrive (if at all) in draft +4, maybe +5 as a legit scoring winger.

    Bouch should have draft +1 to dominate juniour, +2 in the AHL to develop and maybe a cup of coffee, then see where he’s at in +3 unless he absolutely blows the doors off at training camp. Even so, there’s a real chance he’d fade down the stretch, which would hamper his development more than being sent down to gain steam at a slow boil.

    Worked for Kelfbom and Nurse (mostly), why would Bouchard be any different?

  81. Scungilli Slushy says:

    DocFan:
    Maybe this has been discussed to death, but just watched the Khaira cross check. While I don’t condone his response, it seems like Dunn’s initial reaction was to take Khaira’s head off because he got hit (cleanly IMHO). Then Khaira does the same thing, but with more strength (as we would expect).

    So…don’t both have intent to injure here? Why is Dunn not suspended? Clearly, he intended to injure JJ with his actions as well.

    It’s the Oilers. I think the league’s worst nightmare is another Oiler dynasty. What other team has had rules changed specifically because of them so often in the last 40 years?

    If the Oilers win another lottery ( through luck not being as awful) Bettman will throw up his lunch and attack the lucky ball machine

  82. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    For those who have wanted to see JP at centre, here’s a look at how that might turn out:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSCBdAHukgE

    Kid’s got a fantastic set of humour, and some sick mitts.

  83. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OmJo:
    I would just like to shamelessly throw it out there that I was one of the few suggesting Khaira should be tried in the top 6 this season, ideally in place of Lucic, even if he hadn’t earned it at the time.

    I’m not right very often so this is a moment of celebration.

    Nice to have a coach with the patience to put players in positions to succeed – and keep them there for a full period let alone multiple games in a row.

    Also, I would like to see Nurse on the PP more. His 5v5 scoring is solid IMO, and with some PP practice (I don’t know whether he did any while TMac was here considering TMac never saw him as a PP option) I think he could grow into that role. And keep him away from Russell 5v5 please.

    Hitch values players that drive play or stop opponent’s drive. As he says goals come from that. He’s praised Connor of course, Larsson, JP and Khaira. The last two have always shown what they are showing now, but the Oilers have a long history of giving little time for players to become scorers before ditching them. And then when scoring players don’t become Bergeron they go as well.

    The question is what does he see next? I see Cagguila as an ineffective player although one with a little scoring touch. Kassian, and for me Russell also give up more than they give, Benning I’m not sure about because he needs a mentoring partner and hasn’t had much support because of injuries including his own.

    I’m also starting to wonder about Gulatzan, I wasn’t keen on the hiring because it was a buddy hire, I’m not seeing what he brings at this point and his PP is the pits

  84. OilFire says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Yeah, I’m near you in age and do a similar diet. Tonnes of fibre-filled water foods with judicious amounts of proteins and fats and I stay full and happy and my weight is my choice. When I travel though, I eat like a goddamned animal as I’m entirely okay with looking worse for a couple of months if it’s good enough food. My goal weight is very different from yours though, and you cannot tell the difference 3 or 4 pounds makes at my fat % the way you can at yours.

    My other travel goal for when the kiddies get a bit older is exactly what you’re doing this trip, so I’m jealous on that point. I desperately want to go on a sail boat from Sri Lanka to the Maldives, snorkelling at various ports.

  85. Scungilli Slushy says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    godot10,

    100%

    I cannot for the life of me understand how people are so bullish on him taking over big minutes as early as next year.

    He’s shown well in some areas but needs time to round out his game, especially when it comes to playing against men in the pros.

    When I suggested KY would more likely follow the Gaudreau or St. Louis or Johnson arc of development there was some backlash and yet, here we are.KY is likely to arrive (if at all) in draft +4, maybe +5 as a legit scoring winger.

    Bouch should have draft +1 to dominate juniour, +2 in the AHL to develop and maybe a cup of coffee, then see where he’s at in +3 unless he absolutely blows the doors off at training camp.Even so, there’s a real chance he’d fade down the stretch, which would hamper his development more than being sent down to gain steam at a slow boil.

    Worked for Kelfbom and Nurse (mostly), why would Bouchard be any different?

    Bouchard is a far more talented player than Klef or Nurse same age. Offensive talent is what gets players to the bigs quickly and they all have to learn defensive play when they arrive.

    Bouchard’s numbers are rare. He pushed hard in camp straight out of junior. He has NHL size.

    Perhaps he’ll not move ahead this season and be the same at camp as this year and the AHL makes sense.

    This is the Oilers though, and unless there is a problem he’ll make it next season. I think with a solid partner he can survive 3rds 5v5 and get PP.

    If he sees AHL next year it won’t be for long. I expect they will shake the D up next summer anyway. There are lots of skilled forwards close so they have no need to acquire there as much as clear doom.

    Russell, Sekera, Benning, Gravel, maybe Nurse are on the bubble now through either play or cap considerations or both. To me only Larsson (elite shutdown) Klef (current best overall) and Bouchard (elite offense and golden shiny) are certain to stay.

    Jones is also making a strong case and has better tools than most. If he was 210 I’d say Nurse is gone for sure.

    Edit: room not doom

  86. elgruntus says:

    New Improved Darkness: Sleep science is evolving at a break-neck speed right now. Turns out the liver marches to its own drum, unless your meal times become so erratic that it loses the day/night plot, and only then does it pay attention to the “master” conductor, aka the traditional body clock of the SCN.

    Turns out that rampaging proteomics has uncovered many interlocking oscillatory pathways, and every organ seemingly invests in different oscillatory pathways to different degrees. Probably a big part of the jet lag symptomology is that all your organs go madly off in all directions after you slam your big toe on the International Date Line (while otherwise sitting IDL in some grotesquely underpressurized aluminum pipe can).

    So, of course, we eat on the plane, because there’s not much else to do, which confuses the fuck out of your liver when you deplane in the early AM at T +/- 12. Turns out those permanently Up in the Air folks were right after all—my long skepticism recently went out the window with a boom—about structured meal times on flight day: structured around your destination time-zone ASAP.

    Also, there’s mounting evidence now that long-term middle-age weight gain is caused by the invention of indoor refrigeration: having a cold one—cold ham sandwich packed with sweet gherkin pickles and mayonnaise—close to hand sixteen hours a day (or more).It takes a good 12 hours of eating SFA—tea or black coffee is okay—for insulin levels to approach a resting baseline (sweet fuck all is the only sugar you’re allowed during your fast). If your insulin never returns to baseline—not for a decades at a go—the body’s butter blanket set-point starts its slow, inexorable drift upwards—until the slender-legged onset of “get off my lawn”.

    Speaking of which, this morning I encountered a most pathetic invocation of “uphill in both directions”—a real doozy specimen of “get off my lawn” yawn-porn.

    As I contemplated how to frame this awe-inspiring pinnacle of not even a prairie dog mound in the great Saskatchewan outback, it suddenly occurred to me that this genre almost certainly dates back to the first time an ingenious chimpanzee decided to fish for termites using a fresh-plucked pubic hair—because none of the nearby grass was suitable (it certainly helped that this particular chimpanzee’s mother was a Brillo pad, and his father was a toilet brush).

    I presume this highly effective termite-fishing strategy caught on for 500,000 years, until the termites wised up, and then it was no longer effective and the fine art of sacrilege was lost to posterity (“sacrilege” being the old Moroccan term for manfully plucking out a termite tickler; how this passed into French, before being passed back to Morocco—with an entirely new meaning—is unrecorded).

    Pubic hair remains stiff and wiry to this day for this ancient evolutionary reason.

    The first time a greybeard proto-human with bald testicles growled “get off my lawn” everyone howled and cried for days afterward, and the world has never been the same since.

    And that’s why we’re still so obsessed with yard work: there’s a long subliminal history for a thriving patch of manicured grass as genital proxy.

    Nor is it an accident that ‘tuft’ and ‘turf’ can both be enunciated with force through clenched teeth.

    Which—as it now turns out—is also a recommended strategy when flying through a dozen time zones, inverted vampire casket antipode in either direction (most people don’t know this, but there’s also an underside lid, just in case of a long sea voyage; their kind having long predated Newton, while easily his rival in remaining stubbornly superstitious).

    (That rare day when you’re in the pink to take on Lucy in a sudden-death ‘splain-off.)

    Edit: somehow “sacrilege” slipped through my fingers in the first cut.

    I thought the key to life was a healthy colon? I’ve been living a lie!!

  87. jtblack says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Bouchard is a far more talented player than Klef or Nurse same age. Offensive talent is what gets players to the bigs quickly and they all have to learn defensive play when they arrive.

    Bouchard’s numbers are rare. He pushed hard in camp straight out of junior. He has NHL size.

    Perhaps he’ll not move ahead this season and be the same at camp as this year and the AHL makes sense.

    This is the Oilers though, and unless there is a problem he’ll make it next season. I think with a solid partner he can survive 3rds 5v5 and get PP.

    If he sees AHL next year it won’t be for long. I expect they will shake the D up next summer anyway. There are lots of skilled forwards close so they have no need to acquire there as much as clear doom.

    Russell, Sekera, Benning, Gravel, maybe Nurse are on the bubble now through either play or cap considerations or both. To me only Larsson (elite shutdown) Klef (current best overall) and Bouchard (elite offense and golden shiny) are certain to stay.

    Jones is also making a strong case and has better tools than most. If he was 210 I’d say Nurse is gone for sure.

    +1

  88. godot10 says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Bouchard is a far more talented player than Klef or Nurse same age. Offensive talent is what gets players to the bigs quickly and they all have to learn defensive play when they arrive.

    Bouchard’s numbers are rare. He pushed hard in camp straight out of junior. He has NHL size.

    Perhaps he’ll not move ahead this season and be the same at camp as this year and the AHL makes sense.

    This is the Oilers though, and unless there is a problem he’ll make it next season. I think with a solid partner he can survive 3rds 5v5 and get PP.

    If he sees AHL next year it won’t be for long. I expect they will shake the D up next summer anyway. There are lots of skilled forwards close so they have no need to acquire there as much as clear doom.

    Russell, Sekera, Benning, Gravel, maybe Nurse are on the bubble now through either play or cap considerations or both. To me only Larsson (elite shutdown) Klef (current best overall) and Bouchard (elite offense and golden shiny) are certain to stay.

    Jones is also making a strong case and has better tools than most. If he was 210 I’d say Nurse is gone for sure.

    Edit: room not doom

    Persson or Jones is far more likely for the 3rd pairing right D to start the season than Bouchard. The NHL is no place for Bouchard to learn how to defend.

  89. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    Hitch is running Nurse nearly 28 minutes a night, has raved about him in pressers and has him playing 1PP now that Klef is out.

    Unless its an epic string of showcase games I’m gonna bet that Nurse isn’t going anywhere.

    Nobody in the organization at any point has signaled that Nurse isn’t part of the long-term core.

    Things can change of course but I don’t think Darnell is anywhere near the bubble.

  90. jp says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Strome’s numbers have been brutal in NYR so I’m not upset about that trade. Running like a 35% xGF through 14 games.

    Spooner needs to be the 3rd best player on a 2nd line I think.

    Spooner-Draisaitl-XXXX

    Need a 2RW first and foremost

    FWIW, Spooner has successfully driven lines (or at least been a full contributor) in the past.

    In 15-16 he scored 80-13-36-49 (5th on the Bruins). 2.01 5×5 P/60.
    His main line mates were Jimmy Hayes (518 of Spooner’s 927 min), 1.42 P/60 on the year, and Matt Beleskey (397/927 min), 1.56 P/60. Both had better GF% with Spooner than without. Seems he was driving this line.

    In 16-17 he wasn’t great 78-11-28-39 (still 6th on the Bruins, 5th among forwards). 1.21/60.
    Main line mates were Krejci (331/845 min) 1.71/60 overall, and Backes (271/845min) 1.54 P/60.
    Krejci had a better GF% with Spooner (57.7% vs 39.4% without), Backes was 48.0% with, 53.5% without. Likely the 3rd best player in 16-17.

    17-18 he was 59-13-28-41 between Boston and NYR (2.50 P/60, 17th in the NHL).
    Main line mates were Jake DeBrusk (304/720 min), 2.38 P/60 and Krejci (286/720 min), 2.03 P/60. Both had slightly better GF% with Spooner than without.
    In NYR he played most with Kevin Hayes (165/720 min, no one else over 80 min). Hayes was 1.96 P/60 on the year, Spooner was 2.52 in NYR. Hayes GF% was only 41% with Spooner vs 77.8% without(!!).

    Pretty successful overall. You could argue he was a driver in 15-16 and 17-18 with the Bruins. Not really any big goal scorers among his line mates either. Would be really nice if we get to see that version of Spooner at some point.

  91. northerndancer says:

    Kaptain Vikarious: Contrary to popular belief WG, I believe they were an addendum at the bottom of the tablets when Moses came down from Mount Sinai.

    An appropriate cautionary note on the limitations of the term ‘guidelines’ can be found
    here..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJVBvvS57j0

    Safe for work and play.

  92. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    godot10: Persson or Jones is far more likely for the 3rd pairing right D to start the season than Bouchard.The NHL is no place for Bouchard to learn how to defend.

    This is consistent with my take as well; I prefer my prospects overripe instead of raw. At the very least, it allows Bouch some time to ramp up playing in the AHL against men before joining the show. Persson, Jones, even Berglund have already been playing against men and are more likely to require less time to acclimatize. Bear would be a sleeper.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hitch states that Jesse looked real good on the top line at practice today but him on the PP is still a work in progress and they’ll put more time in there tomorrow.

  94. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hitch pretty clear that, when he structures his lines, he wants two of the three centers together at most times.

    Like the 1-2 punch.

    Not sure we’ll see the “3-centers” any time soon.

  95. OriginalPouzar says:

    With Sekera, they are looking to get a green light based on endurance – hasn’t met the criteria but, when he does meet it, he’ll head to Bakersfield.

    He’s getting closer, no longer wearing a no-contact jersey and will be close to a full participant in practice soon.

    I can’t wait to get Reggie back.

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hitch said Spooner will slot in for Khaira (poor Zykov) but he also said that he’s going to play right wing (that’s where he is most comfortable and has had his most success) so, I don’t know what he plans on doing with that line with Rattie and Lucic – something has to give.

  97. OriginalPouzar says:

    russ99:
    Lowetide,

    I think we’re selling Spooner short. His value is as a center, not as a offense-only skill winger, people are getting swayed by a fluke hot streak last year to pencil him in as such.

    Interesting timing as the coach expressly disagreed with this opinion today. See the post above.

  98. Jethro Tull says:

    I’m going to go ahead and rock the boat a little. The JJ suspension should never be. Why? Because the NHL absolutely does not take player safety seriously. It pays it lip service and treats the syptoms, not the disease.

    How so? Let’s look at the sequence of events. JJ lays a legal hit on Dunn. Dunn doesn’t retaliate, because retaliation implies a wrong to be justified. Dunn illegally cross-checks JJ. JJ retaliates (proper usage) and cross-checks Dunn in the head. The punishment IS warrented, based on the single event.

    But the sequence starts long before either of these players ever picked up a stick. That a player feels he can exact revenge by maliciously cross-checking a player after a LEGAL play and this has been let go and let go since LT was cheering Bobby Orr.

    This is what has to change. This is what the NHL has to stop. It’s the same as cross-checking or slashing a player for winning a face-off or scoring a legal goal. No spurious retribution for legal plays, no over-reactions.

    If the NHL were serious about safety, they’d do this.

    One more thing: Dunn AIMED for JJ’s head but missed. So the league WAITS for concussions before corrective action. Not good.

  99. PennersPancakes says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    With Sekera, they are looking to get a green light based on endurance – hasn’t met the criteria but, when he does meet it, he’ll head to Bakersfield.

    He’s getting closer, no longer wearing a no-contact jersey and will be close to a full participant in practice soon.

    I can’t wait to get Reggie back.

    This has to be the best under the radar news. I know a lot of people are questioning his effectiveness when he returns due to two significant injuries but I feel optimistic.

    The knee injury is way more significant than the Achilles and has had more time to heal. When Sekera was at the world championships he was looking like his old self. If this was basketball that Achilles could be a career ender but alas its not. Karlsson might be a bad example because of the pure talent he possesses but his return wasnt perfect but pretty damn good, putting up big points and 27 minutes a game instantly.

    Theres going to be some rust but even with that hes gotta be at least the 4th best dman on a healthy Oilers.

  100. OriginalPouzar says:

    Some more detail on Sekera from Gregor (and this makes me happy):

    Chris Wideman and Andrej Sekera rotated in with Darnell Nurse in Larsson’s spot. Sekera was a part of every drill and is getting closer. Tomorrow he will see the doctor again and undergo some testing to see how strong his Achilles is. “The doctor said it will improve very fast now. It is pain free. It feels good, it is just a matter of gaining strength,” explained Sekera.

    He reiterated how he’d really like to play some games in the AHL once he is cleared. Just to get a feel of the game again. I love this attitude. He is also very excited about how he feels overall. His knee is 100%. It is way more flexible than it was when he returned last year. Pivoting was a major problem, as the knee brace limited his range of motion. He doesn’t need a brace now and he said he feels so much better today coming back from the Achilles injury than he did returning from his knee injury last season.

    He will know more tomorrow on when he could be back. He desperately wants to play and is hoping he can get in some AHL games in early December. When he is activated and presumably sent to the AHL on a conditioning stint he will count on the 23-man roster.

  101. pts2pndr says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    RNH-McDavid-Puljujarvi
    Rieder-Draisaitl-Chiasson
    Caggiula-Brodziak-Kassian
    Lucic-Khaira (susp)-Rattie
    Spooner likely in for Khaira, Zykov

    I think these may work until Khaira gets off suspension but you have just recreated the McBlender. It will be fun to see what Hitch does after a couple of practice sessions with a rested roster!

  102. littleenglish says:
  103. Jethro Tull says:

    I can’t wait to get Reggie from 2yrs ago back.

  104. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    New Improved Darkness,

    Top form sir.

  105. OriginalPouzar says:

    OmJo: What would you trade Lamoreillo for a ticket to Robidas Island for Milan Lucic?

    Even that wouldn’t be a great scenario – LTIR doesn’t relieve the team of the cap hit but provides a cushion to go over the cap by a certain amount (depending on when the player is placed on LTIR and what the cap situation is at the time of placement).

    In any event, the team would need to be cap compliant on day 1, including Lucic’s salary, so it would prohibit off-season acquisitions with the cap space (subject to exceptions, placing the player on LTIR during the off-season, to get cap compliant, is an option but a very ineffective way to use the LTIR relief).

    “Robidas Island” is never a favorable option for a cap team.

  106. dustrock says:

    Jethro Tull:
    I can’t wait to get Reggie from 2yrs ago back.

    Christmas Miracle 2018

  107. OriginalPouzar says:

    russ99:
    OriginalPouzar,

    So a 5-3 loss then. Moving RNH from center to chase offense is a big mistake.

    Cost McLellan his job IMHO.

    I see Hitch doing it for one game to give Draisaitl a break minutes-wise.

    Every time Nuge gets moved you talk about “chasing offence”.

    I would suggest you listen to Hitch’s presser today regarding (a) Drai at center and the reasons for it and (b) Hitch’s desire to have two of the top 3 centers play together for the 1-2 punch and his reasons for it.

  108. YKOil says:

    texmex:
    I wonder if Pittsburgh would be interested in Looch (50% retained) or Kass as a Tom Wilson deterrent?
    https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/31-thoughts-happened-philadelphias-messy-hakstol-firing/

    See thought 24

    Hard to see Lucic going there, maybe Jack Johnson? Pitt would be down a d-man so I expect they would want Gravel. Would come down to salary retention. Would free up a LD for trade and buying out Johnson’s contract is relatively painless compared to the Lucic contract.

    Pittsburgh needs $ for Guentzel so they don’t have a lot of money to spare next year when the Cap goes up.

    Kassian could be available for a play on Riley Sheahan. Sheahan is having a bad year and his contract is up after this year.

    hrmmm… on an unrelated note, maybe in a deal for Spooner (for those who REALLY want to moveon from Eberle)?

  109. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilFire:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Yeah, I’m near you in age and do a similar diet. Tonnes of fibre-filled water foods with judicious amounts of proteins and fats and I stay full and happy and my weight is my choice. When I travel though, I eat like a goddamned animal as I’m entirely okay with looking worse for a couple of months if it’s good enough food. My goal weight is very different from yours though, and you cannot tell the difference 3 or 4 pounds makes at my fat % the way you can at yours.

    My other travel goal for when the kiddies get a bit older is exactly what you’re doing this trip, so I’m jealous on that point.I desperately want to go on a sail boat from Sri Lanka to the Maldives, snorkelling at various ports.

    Thanks for the info on your nutrition regime – I know that my regime, call it compulsion and obsession, is littered with addiction issues and not really mentally healthy for me but, honestly, I don’t have any desire to change at this point and therefore missing a workout or simply letting lose on vacation are not options (shit, 100 extra calories isn’t an option when at home).

    Anyways, our itinerary doesn’t take us to the Maldives but there are some that do that look wonderful – we just didn’t have the time on this particular excursion.

  110. who says:

    Thanks to everyone for the viewing suggestions. Much appreciated.

  111. OriginalPouzar says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Bouchard is a far more talented player than Klef or Nurse same age. Offensive talent is what gets players to the bigs quickly and they all have to learn defensive play when they arrive.

    Bouchard’s numbers are rare. He pushed hard in camp straight out of junior. He has NHL size.

    Perhaps he’ll not move ahead this season and be the same at camp as this year and the AHL makes sense.

    This is the Oilers though, and unless there is a problem he’ll make it next season. I think with a solid partner he can survive 3rds 5v5 and get PP.

    If he sees AHL next year it won’t be for long. I expect they will shake the D up next summer anyway. There are lots of skilled forwards close so they have no need to acquire there as much as clear doom.

    Russell, Sekera, Benning, Gravel, maybe Nurse are on the bubble now through either play or cap considerations or both. To me only Larsson (elite shutdown) Klef (current best overall) and Bouchard (elite offense and golden shiny) are certain to stay.

    Jones is also making a strong case and has better tools than most. If he was 210 I’d say Nurse is gone for sure.

    Edit: room not doom

    I have very little doubt that the organization plans on having Evan Bouchard in the NHL lineup next October, however, with that said, unless he truly earns it on merit (which is tough to do in camp because, as we’ve seen, performances during the first 2/3 of camp mean very little as far as NHL readiness), it is likely something the organization does not have to do (even though they likely will).

    While the 2nd pairing right side D, with current organizational depth, will highly likely remain a hole, the team will likely have a vast amount of solid options for the bottom pairing. Each of Bouchard, Bear, Persson and Berglund may make strong cases of being NHL ready – Of course, not all will be ready but there is a very good chance at least one truly is, if not two.

    Add in Lagesson and Jones, as lefties (with Jones, apparently, a right side option), both very likely to be legit contenders for an NHL job, and this team will have a mammoth amount of young and skilled NHL ready depth.

    Of course, I wouldn’t pencil any of them in above the 3rd pairing (hence the 2RD hole remaining), however, there should be a crazy battle at camp and the call-up options from Bakersfield should be legit NHL ready players.

    Further, if Sekera proves to regain close to his pre-injury form then, wowsers, this team will have some numbers and decisions.

  112. drglen says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    That is interesting indeed. Thing I like about Ken H is that he doesn’t stand pat for like 4 months with an ineffective lineup waiting for things to work themselves out.

    Very interesting to see what happens in that top line now. JP as the wrecking ball on that line, and RNH and Jesse should shore up the line defensively.

    No diss to Alex who has been phenomenal but this second line should move a bit slower, a bit more of a control game. Technically you’ve got two shooters on the line ( Drai and Alex.. I’m calling Alex a shooter) and Rieder who seems to e a fast passer. Plus the veteran D awareness ( ah, except of Leon perhaps. at times)

    Drake might work on the ‘possession ‘ line… because sometimes he can actually find pucks. I also think he does better when the line plays with bad intentions, … so the chemistry is interesting and might work.

    4th line, well, ya, … Let’s call it the double shift line… Connor out for some time with Rattie and , persumably Zykov, … that’s a nice look.

    Like the coach here. But, make sure Kosky is in net. Tampa Bay right, .. very interesting and looking forward.

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: FWIW, Spooner has successfully driven lines (or at least been a full contributor) in the past.

    In 15-16 he scored 80-13-36-49 (5th on the Bruins). 2.01 5×5 P/60.
    His main line mates were Jimmy Hayes (518 of Spooner’s 927 min), 1.42 P/60 on the year, and Matt Beleskey (397/927 min), 1.56 P/60. Both had better GF% with Spooner than without. Seems he was driving this line.

    In 16-17 he wasn’t great 78-11-28-39 (still 6th on the Bruins, 5th among forwards). 1.21/60.
    Main line mates were Krejci (331/845 min) 1.71/60 overall, and Backes (271/845min) 1.54 P/60.
    Krejci had a better GF% with Spooner (57.7% vs 39.4% without), Backes was 48.0% with, 53.5% without. Likely the 3rd best player in 16-17.

    17-18 he was 59-13-28-41 between Boston and NYR (2.50 P/60, 17th in the NHL).
    Main line mates were Jake DeBrusk (304/720 min), 2.38 P/60 and Krejci (286/720 min), 2.03 P/60. Both had slightly better GF% with Spooner than without.
    In NYR he played most with Kevin Hayes (165/720 min, no one else over 80 min). Hayes was 1.96 P/60 on the year, Spooner was 2.52 in NYR. Hayes GF% was only 41% with Spooner vs 77.8% without(!!).

    Pretty successful overall. You could argue he was a driver in 15-16 and 17-18 with the Bruins. Not really any big goal scorers among his line mates either. Would be really nice if we get to see that version of Spooner at some point.

    First option is for the new lines to just take off and lead us to the playoffs, however, at some point, I really think the coaching staff needs to give Spooner (and Zykov) legit minutes in the top 6 – these are offensive players and could succeed in offensive situations – if given the chance.

  114. GMB3 says:

    I’d honestly rather see Lagesson get a look over Garrison at this point.

  115. GMB3 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Even that wouldn’t be a great scenario – LTIR doesn’t relieve the team of the cap hit but provides a cushion to go over the cap by a certain amount (depending on when the player is placed on LTIR and what the cap situation is at the time of placement).

    In any event, the team would need to be cap compliant on day 1, including Lucic’s salary, so it would prohibit off-season acquisitions with the cap space (subject to exceptions, placing the player on LTIR during the off-season, to get cap compliant, is an option but a very ineffective way to use the LTIR relief).

    “Robidas Island” is never a favorable option for a cap team.

    Wouldn’t having 6 million to be able to spend in season have value? Say trading futures for a guy in the last year of his deal? Hypothetically speaking, maybe a guy like Mark Stone this year.

  116. Scungilli Slushy says:

    godot10: Persson or Jones is far more likely for the 3rd pairing right D to start the season than Bouchard.The NHL is no place for Bouchard to learn how to defend.

    I know but that is how the league goes. To me Persson is more likely to see AHL because he has to get used to the ice and he is a smaller guy, learning to defend in closer quarters will be an adjustment, Swedish also said this.

    Jones seems ready, I see him ending up left side when Sekera and Russell play elsewhere. If Lagesson also pushes and Jones goes where Hitch sees I won’t be surprised to see Klefbom Jones Lagesson fairly soon.

    I’m not piling on Nurse but his decision making is lagging and he has a ton of trade value. If they end up with another fiesty player with great skating one of them will be awfully valuable to fill other holes, also no team can carry more than 4 top 4 for long because cap.

    The depth is quality and starting to push, finally, decisions will have to be made, which is what you want and how you build up shallow areas where they remain.

  117. Scungilli Slushy says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    Hitch is running Nurse nearly 28 minutes a night, has raved about him in pressers and has him playing 1PP now that Klef is out.

    Unless its an epic string of showcase games I’m gonna bet that Nurse isn’t going anywhere.

    Nobody in the organization at any point has signaled that Nurse isn’t part of the long-term core.

    Things can change of course but I don’t think Darnell is anywhere near the bubble.

    You’re likely right, I think maybe Jones is making other younger players vulnerable. Maybe it’s Benning. I am also biased to D playing their correct side , they are more effective even if decent opposite side.

  118. OilClog says:

    If Sekera comes back and handles playing 3rd pair without sinking, its a win anything more is bonus. He’ll never be Sekera from 2 years ago, age and injuries dont work like that. Especially knees and achilles, pray hes faster then Garrison.

  119. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OilClog:
    If Sekera comes back and handles playing 3rd pair without sinking, its a win anything more is bonus. He’ll never be Sekera from 2 years ago, age and injuries dont work like that. Especially knees and achilles, pray hes faster then Garrison.

    It’s also possible that his career is extended because he took 1.5 years off of the wear and tear. His body has had a chance to rest. If his knee is good after an extra long rehab compared to normal he ‘could ‘ surprise.

    It’s not age with healthy living athletes that gets them, 32 is a young man, it’s accumulated punishment.

  120. Glovjuice says:

    Ok, have I waited long enough now ? The Spooner trade is horrendous. Bloody awful.

  121. Glovjuice says:

    russ99:
    Lowetide,

    I think we’re selling Spooner short. His value is as a center, not as a offense-only skill winger, people are getting swayed by a fluke hot streak last year to pencil him in as such.

    Would love to see a post x-mas clearout of a couple of excess forwards to give him a shot with some decent wingers, maybe Jesse and Khaira would work:

    Caggiula (or Shooter X, wouldn’t mind seeing Maroon back) – McDavid – Draisaitl
    Reider – RNH – Chiasson
    Lucic – Brodziak – Kassian
    Khaira – Spooner – Puljujarvi

    Would like to see Zykov (another player fans are dismissing because he obviously doesn’t fit the skill winger profile, and never has) tried on the third line instead of Kassian.

    LOL – we traded a third line centre for a 4th line centre. Because Oilers. Because Chia. Gross.

  122. 106 and 106 says:

    Glovjuice,

    Strome was vanilla.

    These playees just don’t move the dial enough to care!

  123. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Hitch said Spooner will slot in for Khaira (poor Zykov) but he also said that he’s going to play right wing (that’s where he is most comfortable and has had his most success) so, I don’t know what he plans on doing with that line with Rattie and Lucic – something has to give.

    Caggiula back at C!!!

    (I’m not actually excited)

  124. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    We are pretty lucky that Khaira isn’t emerging in Vegas.

    Up and till last season, I never imagined Khaira would be any more that a fourth line energy player with PK ability reliant on speed and size.I didn’t think he had the hands or puck skills to be more.

    I am glad I was wrong.

    The question with respect to JJ is will he be able to find consistency to be a middle six player – he has had lots of ups and downs since establishing himself as an every day NHL player.

    Best Chia move; losing Reinhardt in the expansion draft.

    Errr. 16 and 33 in best draft in a decade, I mean.

  125. flea says:

    Glovjuice,

    I dunno glov, Strome was a major disappointment here. I understand the team moving on from him. Would have preferred an expiring contract but I still think it’s too early to judge spooner, he needs more time.

  126. jp says:

    Glovjuice:
    Ok, have I waited long enough now ? The Spooner trade is horrendous. Bloody awful.

    How is it awful? The Oilers traded a guy who averaged 31 points over the past 3 yrs for one who averaged 43.

    No further ahead? Sure. It’s a wash? Maybe. But awful how? What did we give up?

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    GMB3: Wouldn’t having 6 million to be able to spend in season have value? Say trading futures for a guy in the last year of his deal? Hypothetically speaking, maybe a guy like Mark Stone this year.

    Well, potentially, however, it likely wouldn’t be $6M (unless we were literally a penny short of the upper cap limit on day 1 when we place Lucic on LTIR).

    Yes, the LTIR relief would allow for in-season acquisitions, however, as you stated, really only rentals (as we have to be compliant again in the summer without reference to the relief), we would also bank zero additional cap space to accumulate so we would be limited in the amount of cap we could take on at any time and, of course, it would be very hand-cuffing in the summer – the primary time for building.

    I’m not saying it would be an option, just saying that its not “free cap space” for the term of his contract – many do think it is.

  128. OriginalPouzar says:

    I will wait until Spooner gets his time in the top 6 prior to writing him off completely and labeling him a 4th line center (the coach likes him better on the wing, in any event).

  129. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    That is a phenomenal change to the lines.

    Agreed – awesome

  130. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: Caggiula back at C!!!

    (I’m not actually excited)

    but he’s not on that line – he’s “scheduled” to play with Brodz and Kassian. The line is schedule to be Rattie, Spooner and Lucic…..

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    BOS up 2-0 on ANA after 2.

    MIN and PIT tied at 1 after 2.

    CHI up 1-0 on DAL early.

    So far so good, so far….

  132. Glovjuice says:

    New Improved Darkness: Sleep science is evolving at a break-neck speed right now. Turns out the liver marches to its own drum, unless your meal times become so erratic that it loses the day/night plot, and only then does it pay attention to the “master” conductor, aka the traditional body clock of the SCN.

    Turns out that rampaging proteomics has uncovered many interlocking oscillatory pathways, and every organ seemingly invests in different oscillatory pathways to different degrees. Probably a big part of the jet lag symptomology is that all your organs go madly off in all directions after you slam your big toe on the International Date Line (while otherwise sitting IDL in some grotesquely underpressurized aluminum pipe can).

    So, of course, we eat on the plane, because there’s not much else to do, which confuses the fuck out of your liver when you deplane in the early AM at T +/- 12. Turns out those permanently Up in the Air folks were right after all—my long skepticism recently went out the window with a boom—about structured meal times on flight day: structured around your destination time-zone ASAP.

    Also, there’s mounting evidence now that long-term middle-age weight gain is caused by the invention of indoor refrigeration: having a cold one—cold ham sandwich packed with sweet gherkin pickles and mayonnaise—close to hand sixteen hours a day (or more).It takes a good 12 hours of eating SFA—tea or black coffee is okay—for insulin levels to approach a resting baseline (sweet fuck all is the only sugar you’re allowed during your fast). If your insulin never returns to baseline—not for a decades at a go—the body’s butter blanket set-point starts its slow, inexorable drift upwards—until the slender-legged onset of “get off my lawn”.

    Speaking of which, this morning I encountered a most pathetic invocation of “uphill in both directions”—a real doozy specimen of “get off my lawn” yawn-porn.

    As I contemplated how to frame this awe-inspiring pinnacle of not even a prairie dog mound in the great Saskatchewan outback, it suddenly occurred to me that this genre almost certainly dates back to the first time an ingenious chimpanzee decided to fish for termites using a fresh-plucked pubic hair—because none of the nearby grass was suitable (it certainly helped that this particular chimpanzee’s mother was a Brillo pad, and his father was a toilet brush).

    I presume this highly effective termite-fishing strategy caught on for 500,000 years, until the termites wised up, and then it was no longer effective and the fine art of sacrilege was lost to posterity (“sacrilege” being the old Moroccan term for manfully plucking out a termite tickler; how this passed into French, before being passed back to Morocco—with an entirely new meaning—is unrecorded).

    Pubic hair remains stiff and wiry to this day for this ancient evolutionary reason.

    The first time a greybeard proto-human with bald testicles growled “get off my lawn” everyone howled and cried for days afterward, and the world has never been the same since.

    And that’s why we’re still so obsessed with yard work: there’s a long subliminal history for a thriving patch of manicured grass as genital proxy.

    Nor is it an accident that ‘tuft’ and ‘turf’ can both be enunciated with force through clenched teeth.

    Which—as it now turns out—is also a recommended strategy when flying through a dozen time zones, inverted vampire casket antipode in either direction (most people don’t know this, but there’s also an underside lid, just in case of a long sea voyage; their kind having long predated Newton, while easily his rival in remaining stubbornly superstitious).

    (That rare day when you’re in the pink to take on Lucy in a sudden-death ‘splain-off.)

    Edit: somehow “sacrilege” slipped through my fingers in the first cut.

    Wow, this is an IQ, people. Stunning writing.

  133. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: Hey, thanks for all the recommendations.

    You are certainty right about the calories and the macros but I will most certainly not be “vacationing it” like most.

    I turned 42 yesterday but also confirmed 5.92% body fat (via the multiple skin fold/caliper test) or 6.9% (via the bod pod machine).I worked my ass off to get here and I’m not about to have it disappear in a few days (and, yes, it can and will if I don’t manage the food properly).

    You are absolutely right about me pre-planning things and that goes for the food as well on vacation – I will spend hours upon hours upon hours figuring out places to eat and what to eat.Thing is, for this trip, I can’t.We are literally on a 53 foot catamaran in the Indian Ocean for 7 days – I am at the whim of what they feed us on the boat.

    Don’t worry though, I will manage the calories and ensure I am not eating in an excess.

    At the same time, I do plan on “eating the food” and enjoying it, I will just ensure that I eat small enough poritions that I don’t eat in a calorie excess.

    It will be tough for me as I am a guy that eats super clean food, not because I need to but because the food goes MUCH farther, calorie-wise, and I get to eat more.I fill up on volume so I eat ALOT of food but its all low calorie food.I love it.

    On the trip, I believe I’ll be eating higher calorie food (and look forward to it) but much less volume.

    We do have 2 days in Colombo after we get off the boat – I love your itinerary recommendations, however, and we’ve looked in to some excursions (which we love to do) but we just won’t have the time. We’ll stick in Colombo.

    I will explore some of the food options you recommend during those two days.

    Thanks so much for your note.

    The most regular dude OP post ever.

  134. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: but he’s not on that line – he’s “scheduled” to play with Brodz and Kassian. The line is schedule to be Rattie, Spooner and Lucic…..

    True. He was the only other “C” I could see on the roster.

    Maybe Malone gets the call tomorrow? (sorry OP)

    Something’s gotta give, not sure what.

  135. OriginalPouzar says:

    3-0 BOS over ANH with just a few minutes left

    PIT up by 1 over MIN with a few minutes left

    CHI up 2-0 on DAL after 1

    CGY up 2-1 on TBL in the first

    Leave it to the flames to ruin the mojo.

  136. Jaxon says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Perusing the late posts on yesterday’s thread where people were kibitzing line combos and and really like this one from Katz_Kat:

    Khaira/McDavid/Puljujarvi – Lets face it, Khaira and Puljujarvi have developed some form of chemistry, let them help each other and McDavid
    Rieder/Draisaitl/Chiasson – wasn’t broken before Reider was broken.
    Caggiula/RNH/Rattie – Neither are that bad of goal scorers when given talent to play with.
    Lucic/Brodziak/Kassian – cause they don’t bleed

    https://lowetide.ca/2018/12/19/shame-on-the-moon/#comment-795751

    I agree that Hitch can’t continue to run any forward over 23 minutes and only McDavid over 21-ish.

    This would help that and *probably* have 4 lines that don’t bleed.

    Here was my WWYDW lineup posted on Oilersnation on Nov.15, before the Hitchcock era began.

    https://oilersnation.com/2018/11/15/wwydw-organizing-the-mcdrai-lineup/

    “Khaira – McDavid – Puljujarvi
    Nugent-Hopkins – Draisaitl – Strome
    Chiasson – Marody – Rattie
    Lucic – Brodziak – Kassian”

    Rieder was still injured and Spooner and Zykov weren’t on the team yet (Strome was).

  137. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: True. He was the only other “C” I could see on the roster.

    Maybe Malone gets the call tomorrow? (sorry OP)

    Something’s gotta give, not sure what.

    Perhaps McDavid that line will always have one of the big 3 centers on it?

  138. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar: Perhaps McDavid that line will always have one of the big 3 centers on it?

    Yeah, definitely possible.

    They’re all playing 20+ minutes already. If they just split them up (or took Drai off the PK) they could cover the minutes easily.

  139. jp says:

    OriginalPouzar:

    I turned 42 yesterday but also confirmed 5.92% body fat (via the multiple skin fold/caliper test) or 6.9% (via the bod pod machine).I worked my ass off to get here and I’m not about to have it disappear in a few days (and, yes, it can and will if I don’t manage the food properly).

    BTW I turn 42 tomorrow.

    None of that fitness stuff though, and no overseas travel coming up.

    Enjoy the trip!

  140. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: First option is for the new lines to just take off and lead us to the playoffs, however, at some point, I really think the coaching staff needs to give Spooner (and Zykov) legit minutes in the top 6 – these are offensive players and could succeed in offensive situations – if given the chance.

    If they did, the bottom-six would be stacked with talent.

  141. OriginalPouzar says:

    So:

    ANA – regulation loss

    MIN – regulation loss

    DAL was down 3-0 to CHI but have cut the lead to 3-2 (half way through the 3rd)

    CGY was up 3-1 on TBL but its now 3-3 after the 2nd

    VEG is losing 2-0 to NYI after 1

    SJS and WIN are tied at 1 early in the 1st

  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    jp: BTW I turn 42 tomorrow.

    None of that fitness stuff though, and no overseas travel coming up.

    Enjoy the trip!

    Happy b-day, and thanks.

  143. treevojo says:

    Taylor Fedun with his second goal of the year.

    How do you not cheer for that guy?

  144. digger50 says:

    Three and a half periods in Calgary and finally there was a hit in the game.

    Boring as heck, yet 3-3 tie.

  145. Lowetide says:

    Happy birthday, OP!

  146. digger50 says:

    Lightning score

  147. Chief Inspector says:

    Lightning now leading.

  148. ArmchairGM says:

    Scungilli Slushy: It’s also possible that his career is extended because he took 1.5 years off of the wear and tear. His body has had a chance to rest. If his knee is good after an extra long rehab compared to normal he ‘could ‘ surprise.

    It’s not age with healthy living athletes that gets them, 32 is a young man, it’s accumulated punishment.

    Excellent counterpoint.

  149. treevojo says:

    Lowetide:
    Happy birthday, OP!

    Edit. JP

  150. Chief Inspector says:

    Tied again

  151. ArmchairGM says:

    Glovjuice:
    Ok, have I waited long enough now ? The Spooner trade is horrendous. Bloody awful.

    Based on what?

  152. digger50 says:

    I can’t stand it

    Jonny scored

    Hrudey pees his pants

  153. digger50 says:

    Lightning are extremely skilled – captain obvious. But no other dimensions to thier team that I can see. I don’t see them going far in playoffs.

    Also captain obvious – Hrudey would be a great speaker at the bumbling announcers convention.

  154. Glovjuice says:

    ArmchairGM: Based on what?

    He’s our 4th line centre, or scratched

  155. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Happy birthday, OP!

    Hey, thanks.

  156. Glovjuice says:

    Is there anyone here who honestly doesn’t think this team wouldn’t be at least a little better with Strome playing 3 C vs. Spooner doing what he is doing?

  157. digger50 says:

    Glovjuice:
    Is there anyone here who honestly doesn’t think this team wouldn’t be at least a little better with Strome playing 3 C vs. Spooner doing what he is doing?

    I do believe Strome was bringing more value to the team than Spooner has to date and I actually don’t see that changing.

    The fact that there is push back on this is great to see. Finally a little positivity in the neighbourhood – and that’s been gone a long time.

  158. treevojo says:

    Glovjuice:
    Is there anyone here who honestly doesn’t think this team wouldn’t be at least a little better with Strome playing 3 C vs. Spooner doing what he is doing?

    Dylan or Ryan?

  159. jp says:

    Glovjuice:
    Is there anyone here who honestly doesn’t think this team wouldn’t be at least a little better with Strome playing 3 C vs. Spooner doing what he is doing?

    The thing is, Spooner was the better player for 3 years.

    Both players have brought zero to negative value this season.

    Maybe Spooner never gets back to the player he was. Maybe he never does it under HItchcock. But I do think it’s highly likely Spooner is the better player going forward.

  160. Ribs says:

    I wonder if Hitch can instill some sort competition between Nuge and Drai?

    I’m sure we’d all like to see a lot more from Draisatl away from McDavid. Maybe it’s time *hope so*?

  161. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai has proven to be able to score at 1st line rates away from McDavid, even with somewhat middling wingers.

    Drai’s issue away from McDavid has not been production but keeping the puck out of his own net and a large part of that is the middling wingers.

    In 110 minutes this year, Drai and Chiasson without McDavid have an 83% goal share (5 for, 1 against) and possession numbers just above 50%.

    Add McDavid to them for 150 minutes and the goal share drops to 65% and the possession numbers below 50%.

    As many had professed, it simply didn’t make sense to move Drai away from Chiasson and then Chiasson up to McDavid’s line and, as matches the eye test, Chiasson has not played well with McDavid.

    The current top 6 is perfection – Drai and Chisson together and away from McDavid and McDavid with Jesse.

  162. ArmchairGM says:

    Glovjuice: He’s our 4th line centre, or scratched

    He hasn’t been given much of an opportunity yet though. It’s a little early to make the call on the trade IMO.

  163. Glovjuice says:

    jp: The thing is, Spooner was the better player for 3 years.

    Both players have brought zero to negative value this season.

    Maybe Spooner never gets back to the player he was. Maybe he never does it under HItchcock. But I do think it’s highly likely Spooner is the better player going forward.

    What about Stomes pK? Pro scouting was wrong on Spooner: something is off.

  164. jp says:

    Glovjuice: What about Stomes pK? Pro scouting was wrong on Spooner: something is off.

    Something’s off with Spooner this season, that I agree with.

    Strome was basically not used on the PK on Long Island (less than 60 min in his career there) and hasn’t been a regular in Manhattan (40 seconds per game).

    The Oilers have been the only team to use him as a PKer (still only 91 min in 100 Oiler games). His GA numbers were decent, but his CA and SA were among the worst on the team. I think it’s fair to question whether the GA results are repeatable, and I don’t see Strome as a particularly valuable PKer.

    My only issue is you’re calling it an awful, terrible trade, and saying that Chiarelli should have known better. I can acknowledge it hasn’t worked out particularly well (neither player has brought much of anything), but I can see little to no evidence it was a bad bet.

    I would still make the trade after seeing the 17 games of results FWIW. I think Spooner recovers at some point, whether it’s with the Oilers or not.

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