Game 37 2018-19: Canucks at Oilers

by Lowetide

You can’t go fast enough to get there early. Oilers fans, impatient for midnight at the oasis that is downtown Edmonton in the moments after a playoff win, are screaming for a hurricane blue who can slice and dice on the power play, or a powderfinger sniper on the wing who can cash cherry passes from the great McDavid. Management has to be sure in the knowledge that the best way to add is by scouting, amateur procurement and strong moves that don’t make headlines. That’s the play here.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Peter Chiarelli’s free-agent success in 2018 may dictate Oilers big money moves in the summer of 2019.
  • Lowetide: Total recall—Who should be next on the Bakersfield-to-Edmonton shuttle?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers’ Rattie still figuring out how to play for new-old coach Ken Hitchcock.
  • Lowetide: No. 8 prospect Winter 2018: Kirill Maksimov.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Condors coach Jay Woodcroft has a lifetime of hockey knowledge to share and the notebooks to prove it.
  • Jonathan Willis: The Ryan Spooner for Ryan Strome trade has yet to pay dividends for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Ken Hitchcock, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and finding that elusive perfect fit on the Oilers No. 2 line.
  • Jonathan Willis: Milan Lucic should not be an everyday player for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 7 prospect Winter 2018: Caleb Jones
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 6 Prospect winter 2018: Cooper Marody
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 5 Prospect winter 2018: Ethan Bear.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 4 Prospect winter 2018: Ryan McLeod.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 Prospect winter 2018: Tyler Benson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 2 Prospect winter 2018: Kailer Yamamoto.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 1 Prospect winter 2018: Evan Bouchard.

OILERS AFTER 37

  • Oilers in 2015: 15-19-3, 33 points; goal differential -18
  • Oilers in 2016: 19-12-6, 44 points; goal differential +6
  • Oilers in 2017: 17-18-2, 36 points; goal differential -6
  • Oilers in 2018: 18-15-3, 39 points; goal differential -1

The 2016 McDavid caravan shines like a diamond, but this year’s team has a chance to climb closer. The building of this team’s defense since 2015 summer reminds me of that Kate Bush song Running up that Hill and man, they are slammed against the sea wall this evening. A win tonight would put Edmonton on a 82gp, 42-33-7, 91-point trajectory.

OILERS IN DECEMBER

  • Oilers in December 2015: 6-4-2, 14 points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in December 2016: 6-2-4, 16 points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in December 2017: 7-4-1, 15 points; goal differential +8
  • Oilers in December 2018: 6-4-1, 13 points; goal differential +4

In all four McDavid seasons, the Oilers began December like a house on fire and slowly faded to Christmas. Family pressures? Influenza? General malaise from the increasingly wintry weather? Get someone on that, please and thanks.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN DECEMBER

  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 0-1-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Dallas, St. Louis (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: Minnesota, Calgary (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: Colorado,Winnipeg(Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • At home to: Philadelphia (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Vancouver, San Jose, Winnipeg (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 0-2-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 6-4-1, 13 points in 11 games

This Oilers team has been close to my projection for their monthly total for over a week now and perhaps they’ll match it tonight. It isn’t too late to turn December into a season changer. Three wins in a row looks impossible now, but these Oilers often play up to their competition.

Bouchard is going to be a feature player for Canada at the World Juniors, that means lots of exposure. He made some gorgeous passes last night, also hooked a Dane on a breakaway (difficult pass to him and then jailbreak at opponent’s blue) which drew a penalty shot. During the Top 20 prospect series for The Athletic, I wrote about Bouchard needing “a quicker pace in specific moments of the game as he moves into the NHL full-time next fall.” I think that’s going to be his area to work on this year and then into his NHL career. He’s a real talent, the only question is ceiling.

I received a couple of dm’s last night, worried about Bouchard’s playing time (13:17, the lowest total of any Canadian defenseman) and wondering if it was performance based. My answer: I doubt it, more likely they decided to rotate all seven defenders. But it could be dissatisfaction from the coach and that’s fine too. Bouchard has things to work on, just like all of these kids.

I’m also getting feedback about his foot speed. The first time I posted a list on this blog for the 2018 draft (here) I ranked Bouchard No. 21, saying “two-way player, big numbers, his first-step quickness is average and he’s one of the oldest players in the draft.” At that time, several of you reached out to me and asked why he was ranked so low. I re-stated what I wrote but also redoubled my efforts to find out about his skating. I asked Brock Otten, I asked several scouting services and two NHL scouts. The consensus my questions generated is closely reflected in this passage from HockeyProspect.com:

  • Although a transitional defenseman with good overall speed, his skating stride is awkward. He still generates power and manages to shift-gears quickly, allowing him to cut-wide on defenders and create additional offensive-chances.

He needs urgency in some situations, without losing those calm feet and cool demeanor with the puck on his stick. Nobody asked me, but my advice is to enjoy him at this level. He’ll have to work on things like puck retrieval in the NHL next season but he can’t do that tonight. Among men his age, he’s a special talent. I know Oilers fans as a group have an ongoing expectation of impending doom, but that’s my advice to you.

I had Samuel Fagemo No. 33 on my final list because of his shooting skills. His scouting reports suggested speed was an issue (doesn’t have great top speed) but he has one dominant skill. This year, he’s in the SHL and has five goals in 21 games. He’s averaging 10 shots per 60 minutes (including all disciplines) and a 10 percent shooting percentage. He’s playing for Sweden at the WJ’s. I hope he gets drafted.

OILERS WITHOUT 97

  • JT Black asked to see Oilers without McDavid, so here it is. McDavid’s number is McDavid’s number, all others without.
  • RNH, Chiasson and Khaira lead the way, Draisaitl and Spooner (!!) the only other men above 1.50/60 at 5-on-5.
  • Rieder hasn’t delivered a lot of offense but his number without 97 isn’t out of line with career numbers at 5-on-5.
  • Kailer Yamamoto (0.76 without McDavid), Cooper Marody (0.00) and Patrick Russell (0.00) may also see Edmonton before season’s end.
  • The defensemen are listed with Corsi for 5-on-5 without McDavid, all stats via NaturalStatTrick.
  • Adam Larsson shines, the big Swede has been solid despite some wobble during the year. Of course time away from McDavid means softer minutes for Larsson, so his number shouldn’t be a surprise.
  • Kevin Gravel and Caleb Jones are an emerging story, as reflected here.
  • Darnell Nurse is playing big minutes currently but his possession number has been underwater pretty much all year. He is struggling as a fill-in for Klefbom this season.
  • Matt Benning is heavily reliant on McDavid for possession success.

MIKKO KOSKINEN

Koskinen has posted six games in which his save percentage was less than .900, including the last two (losses to Vancouver and Tampa Bay). There is a group of Oilers fans who believe Koskinen may falter ala Anders Nilsson a few years back, and perhaps (goes the thinking) this is the time for the cracks and holes to appear. I’m more bullish on the netminder, tonight is a huge game for Koskinen (should he start) and for the Oilers. A win, and the three-game slide fades into distant memory.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we’re back with a full boat of guests. Scheduled to appear:

  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman, The Athletic. Oilers are back and getting ready for a huge game. Will we see Russell activated, Yamamoto recalled? Plus Ty Rattie (0.58) and his journey back to the starting lineup under Ken Hitchcock.
  • Jon Abbott, TSN1040 Vancouver. PBP voice at the World Juniors will walk us through a wild opening night for Canada.
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. It’s go time for several NHL teams looking to push for a playoff spot, including Philadelphia, St. Louis, Carolina and Edmonton.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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Woodguy v2.0

Western Conference Playoff Standings via Points Percentage expressed as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Central
WPG 14
NSH 9
COL 7

Pacific
CGY 10
SJS 7
ANA 5

Wildcard
VGK 5
EDM 3
———-
Out of playoffs
MIN 2
DAL 2
VAN -1
ARI -2
STL -2
LAK -6
CHI -7

Lots of Pacific and MIN/DAL games today as all 10 teams are playing:

DAL at NSH – NSH is fav at -170
CGY at WPG – WPG is fav at -135
MIN at CHI – MIN is fav at -150 – I’d hit CHI at +135 as they are coming on and MIN lost Dumba
COL at VGK – VGK is fav at -145
ARI at LAK – LAK is fav at -140 – I’d hit ARI at +130 here. Hill has .918 in 10 games and ARI is starting to score
ANA at SJS – SJS is fav at -185
VAN at EDM – EDM is fav at -165

If Russell is back than it should be EDM in a walk imo. If not and Garrison is playing the PK then hold your breath.

Hopefully Hitch puts 98 back with 93-97, but I’d be cool with:

93-97-39
22-29-98

GOILERS!!

*clapclap*

Woodguy v2.0

In all four McDavid seasons, the Oilers began December like a house on fire and slowly faded to Christmas. Family pressures? Influenza? General malaise from the increasingly wintry weather? Get someone on that, please and thanks.

15/16 – Klefbom injured on Dec 11th vs NYR
16/17 – Healthy blue line
17/18 – Larsson comes back from injury Dec 18 with wonky back
18/19 – Klefbom injured on Dec 11th vs COL

A healthy top 4.

Its a thing.

Also,

Next year Klef should skip the Dec 11th game.

Jethro Tull

Lol, 13mins against Denmark is a punishment? Ok. Get ready for Boosh only getting 5mins against the better teams if that’s the logic we’re going with.

Anybody seriously believe that players go to a limited game tourney to be benched?

Rondo

Bouchard’s time was cut after he cough up the puck that lead to a breakaway and a penalty on Bouchard. All 3 assists were secondary.

supernova

Anyone seen anything on Kris Russell?

How long can they possibly keep playing Garrison?

Klefbom for Garrison is a tough loss
Russell for Jones isn’t as hard but a rookie needs cover

Jethro Tull

Lowetide: They could also work on having enough depth to cover off these injuries. Every team gets them but the Oilers are uniquely set up to fall apart.

I think we’re going to see increasingly TMac like decisions from Hitch as the limitations of the roster start tightening the bonds of his coaching framework. It took Todd less time to get to these decisions as he has a little less in his toolbox than Hitch.

Other teams seem to adapt their game. We never seem to be able to, no matter the roster or the coach.

jtblack

Thanks LT. PC should really make it a priority to keep ANY player that scores well away from #97. That used to be Pouliit, Eberle, etc and PC shipped then out.

Lets Go Oilers

Rondo

Lowetide,

You maybe right.

jtblack

Gonna be in vegas for a couple hockey games So I will have to be a bit of a trader for the week ?

Jethro Tull

Rondo:
Bouchard’s time was cut after he cough up the puck that lead to a breakaway and a penalty on Bouchard. All 3 assists were secondary.

I’d kind of like to hear Tim’s explanation of how Boosh was supposed to protect that puck when he was given a hand grenade in the skates when marked by a defender. And what, exactly, it teaches Boosh. As Oilers fans, it’s a show we’ve all seen before. Weird watching another coach doing it.

Hook was good. No penalty and the poor kid never really looked like scoring.

smellyglove

Fretting over Bouchard, are we?

The WJC is an event that garnishes more flash than substance, particularly in Canada as TSN et al. have hit the motherload in tapping Canadian craving for hockey action, especially while on holiday. To many, it’s a crucible, a proving ground for the NHL elite as the big spotlights shine from the rafters. To others, the tournament is an exercise in small sample sizes; the obvious high-high picks playing aside, the tournament is just as likely to leave a litany of NHL failures as guarantee HOF spots for the teenagers.

As to Bouchard: Hope, but don’t get your hopes up for the young London Knight.

Slater Koekkoek
Jonas Brodin
Dylan McIlrath
Keaton Ellerby
Luc Bourdon
Boris Valabik

Above is a list of #10 picked defensemen of this millennium. Bouchard is much more likely to follow the long route of Ryan Ellis than the path of Ray Bourque.

jtblack

Woodguy v2.0,

An EDM Win, conbined with Dallas & Minny Losses and EDM all of a sudden is in a pretty good spot !!

Woodguy v2.0


Lowetide,

They could also work on having enough depth to cover off these injuries. Every team gets them but the Oilers are uniquely set up to fall apart.

EDM in December:

1-3-1 with Garrison in the line up
5-1-0 without Garrison in the line up

*nods*

edited for the right results in December

Woodguy v2.0

Lowetide: They could also work on having enough depth to cover off these injuries. Every team gets them but the Oilers are uniquely set up to fall apart.

Agreed.

I’ll cut a bit of slack on this year as it didn’t fall apart totally until 4 hit the IR too.

Jethro Tull

Woodguy v2.0:
EDM in December:

1-4-0 with Garrison in the line up
5-0-1 without Garrison in the line up

Jason Garrison cannot be stopped. Unfortunately.

Woodguy v2.0

smellyglove,

As to Bouchard: Hope, but don’t get your hopes up for the young London Knight.

Bouchard is much more likely to follow the long route of Ryan Ellis than the path of Ray Bourque.

Bouchard turning into Ellis is a pretty good result.

Admiral Ackbar

Rondo:
Bouchard’s time was cut after he cough up the puck that lead to a breakaway and a penalty on Bouchard. All 3 assists were secondary.

He had a PP primary assist and looked brilliant in the first 2 periods. He was the same player we saw start the year in Edm: brilliant headman passing and excellent management at the blue line in the offensive zone (save the cough-up). I thought his anticipation of trouble, urgency, and foot speed during that chase were all questions we were already asking. He didn’t play much after the penalty shot. Better to send a message in game 1 when you’re up double digits.

I thought he looked to be the best Dman on the team but with average wheels. That will be the question on this player that keeps us up at night.

Greg

smellyglove,

Not one of those guys had even half as many points as Bouchard in their draft years and one of them died. I don’t see a lot of comparative value in that list.

SwedishPoster

Koskinen is and always was a better goalie than Anders Nilsson. I’m not too worried that he’ll fall apart, we maybe can’t count on him playing as a top 5 goalie in the league for the whole season but I ‘m pretty sure he’ll be solid to great the rest of the way.

I wasn’t as high as you on Fagemo LT but he certainly deserved to be drafted, no doubt he will be this draft. My question mark om him was smarts, looks better this season, could be as simple as him getting better coaching in the SHL. Will likely never be a strength but with developement it looks like it will be good enough.

In other prospects out of Sweden news Berglund and Persson both played both played last night without harvesting any points. Most noticeable thing to happen was Berglund being at the receiving end of a pretty ugly, and by the looks of it deliberate, knee on knee just 4 minutes into the game. The kneeing player, Matt Bailey, got a match penalty and three games.
Berglund finished the game without any obvious issues, played a bit under 20 minutes, hopefully it didn’t swell up overnight.

Here’s the knee on knee.

https://mobile.twitter.com/cmoresport/status/1077994986258481153

Clarkenstein

Starting in on Bouchard already are we? Only in this market. Jeezus Cripes!!

hunter1909

Clarkenstein:
Starting in on Bouchard already are we?Only in this market. Jeezus Cripes!!

Get with the program.
Don’t worry if they can’t afford to keep him later on, because Lucic’s still on the books, lol

Jethro Tull

hunter1909: Get with the program.
Don’t worry if they can’t afford to keep him later on, because Lucic’s still on the books, lol

We should deliberately sabotage his development so we don’t have to pay him as much on a future contract.

Oilin4

Haven’t been following for a few days. Why is Wells in the depth chart?

Scungilli Slushy

Jethro Tull: I’d kind of like to hear Tim’s explanation of how Boosh was supposed to protect that puck when he was given a hand grenade in the skates when marked by a defender. And what, exactly, it teaches Boosh. As Oilers fans, it’s a show we’ve all seen before. Weird watching another coach doing it.

Hook was good. No penalty and the poor kid never really looked like scoring.

My take was it was a guaranteed win and he’s being saved for later. He’s clearly the offensive class of the Canadian D group. Perhaps others are better defensively but they aren’t creating in the same way.

We’ll see what happens when they play the Hughes brothers or Boqvist.

Clarkenstein

Lowetide: Did you see that breakaway? NP!

LOL!

LMHF#1

Koskinen has played just fine in some games where the Oilers have been hot garbage.

His positioning, readiness and focus have been excellent. Just needs a half-decent effort in front of him to get it done.

Scungilli Slushy

Woodguy v2.0: Agreed.

I’ll cut a bit of slack on this year as it didn’t fall apart totally until 4 hit the IR too.

We could be looking at for next season
77 6
25 X
2 75
5 82

If you put Pysyk or Gudas in the X spot I see a depth and appropriate quality. With 4/83 you can get by but I’d rather look for improvement in the key metrics of retrieval and puck movement. P/G shouldn’t cost the moon.

Scungilli Slushy

LMHF#1:
Koskinen has played just fine in some games where the Oilers have been hot garbage.

His positioning, readiness and focus have been excellent. Just needs a half-decent effort in front of him to get it done.

I haven’t noticed any obvious holes in Koski’s game. It’s nice to think he has a chance to save any shot. With Talbot there are a few situations where it’s 50/50 if someone gets a clean enough look in the right spot, even with no seam passes making him move.

drglen

nice articles by Matty this morning.

Will be interested to hear from Ried or Stauffer as to actual line combinations.. but projected
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins Connor McDavid Jesse Puljujarvi
Tobias Rieder Leon Draisaitl Alex Chiasson
Drake Caggiula Ryan Spooner Ty Rattie
Milan Lucic Kyle Brodziak Zack Kassian

so no zykov again. We must be missing something here- he must have insulted the coach’s car or something.

I’m predicting a good game from Kassian today and I’d like to see him moved up lineup for a few shifts.

Also predicting points for the third line as listed here. Points for this group, but if game starts slipping away, switch rattie and JP for the third period.

This is a huge, huge game. A must win.

Scungilli Slushy

Admiral Ackbar: He had a PP primary assist and looked brilliant in the first 2 periods. He was the same player we saw start the year in Edm: brilliant headman passing and excellent management at the blue line in the offensive zone (save the cough-up). I thought his anticipation of trouble, urgency, and foot speed during that chase were all questions we were already asking. He didn’t play much after the penalty shot. Better to send a message in game 1 when you’re up double digits.

I thought he looked to be the best Dman on the team but with average wheels. That will be the question on this player that keeps us up at night.

If the Oilers have any brains the tweaks Bouchard and a few others skating would greatly benefit from are readily available via known coaches and even freely available on the web.

Did I say brains?

Shane

Scungilli Slushy: We could be looking at for next season
77 6
25 X
2 75
5 82

If you put Pysyk or Gudas in the X spot I see a depth and appropriate quality. With 4/83 you can get by but I’d rather look for improvement in the key metrics of retrieval and puck movement.P/G shouldn’t cost the moon.

If Rej is completely healthy he could be that 2RD no?

Derek

Scungilli Slushy: My take was it was a guaranteed win and he’s being saved for later. He’s clearly the offensive class of the Canadian D group. Perhaps others are better defensively but they aren’t creating in the same way.

We’ll see what happens when they play the Hughes brothers or Boqvist.

I thought early on Bouchard may have missed a shift or two because of a quesionable giveaway but I think its actually just a function of Bouchard not being a regular PKer while his defense partner was playing more on the PK. So once the team got to even strength it seemed to take a few shifts to get the defensive pairings straightened back out.

He and Smith seem to be the offensive catalysts for the team from the back end, so it could be as simple as giving him less ice time against a weaker opponent to save his strength for the big boys.

Its hard to tell where hes at defensively vs his peers when the other team is that weak. Hopefully he can get a step or two quicker before becoming an NHL regular.

Scungilli Slushy

Shane: If Rej is completely healthy he could be that 2RD no?

For sure. I’m thinking stable partner for Nurse, excellent stable mentor for Bouchard. Nurse isn’t ideal to teach as he’s still learning but at thirds 25 / 75 would probably work. They equal 100 after all.

LMHF#1

Scungilli Slushy: I haven’t noticed any obvious holes in Koski’s game. It’s nice to think he has a chance to save any shot. With Talbot there are a few situations where it’s 50/50 if someone gets a clean enough look in the right spot, even with no seam passes making him move.

He arrives early and plays aggressively…great way to goaltend.

McSorley33

No Zykov and Garrison may actually play another game in the NHL again……

Ryan Stanton or Keegan Lowe….?

Anything is better than Garrison at this point. Anything.

Love Hitch. Pumped when he was hired.

But if you are intentionally playing Garrison and not Zykov – you are not
putting out your best lineup.

Must be a story about Zykov behind the scenes.

Woodguy v2.0

Woodguy v2.0:

Lowetide,


They could also work on having enough depth to cover off these injuries. Every team gets them but the Oilers are uniquely set up to fall apart.

EDM in December:

1-4-0 with Garrison in the line up
5-0-1 without Garrison in the line up

*nods*

Correction

EDM in December
1-3-1 with Garrison
5-1-0 without Garrison

To be fair to him their record this season is: 8-8-1 with Garrison in the line up.

The splits since early November aren’t good though.

First 8 games: 6-2-0
Last 9 games: 2-6-1

That’s not just him (obv) and coming back in when both Klefbom and Russell are out puts everyone behind the 8 ball.

Still goes to LT’s depth comment though.

When will EDM realize that the 7th Dman usually ends up slotting 14th or so on the Total TOI chart at the end of the season and to aim higher?

Hitch is doing the right thing playing Gravel and Jones ahead of him, but he probably shouldn’t be on the roster at all.

Scungilli Slushy

Shane: If Rej is completely healthy he could be that 2RD no?

I missed RD. I’m not sure he’s good there. I believe WG or someone found his right side stats and they weren’t great.

It probably stays Russell if they keep him. I think from what we’ve seen Jones may actually be the best option with a strong partner. His speed I think helps as he creates more space for himself to get a good pass off.

My intuition is that Sekera should be better than anyone else on the Oilers at right because of how efficient/smart he is and his skating (how it was).

But the numbers didn’t suggest that, although I don’t remember if any context was looked at in those numbers.

Woodguy v2.0

Scungilli Slushy: We could be looking at for next season
77 6
25 X
2 75
5 82

If you put Pysyk or Gudas in the X spot I see a depth and appropriate quality. With 4/83 you can get by but I’d rather look for improvement in the key metrics of retrieval and puck movement.P/G shouldn’t cost the moon.

Agreed.

If 2 is 80% of 2 then he’ll destroy 3rd pairing comp.

That’s a 3rd pair you’d get out every chance when the other team’s best aren’t on the ice and would probably equal TOI for the 2nd pair, but have a QoC waaaaay lower.

jtblack

Scungilli Slushy: We could be looking at for next season
77 6
25 X
2 75
5 82

If you put Pysyk or Gudas in the X spot I see a depth and appropriate quality. With 4/83 you can get by but I’d rather look for improvement in the key metrics of retrieval and puck movement.P/G shouldn’t cost the moon.

I like that for sure. the Key is X and in 3.5 yrs PC has been unable to deliver X.

We Wait

slopitch

Bouch will be fine. Just give him 1-3 years to be ready and accept it. Hes go a big brain and thats harder to get than wheels. A couple summers getting stronger and working on his edges and he’ll arrive ready.

Looking forward to the game vs the sucks tonight. Might even get last min tix.

Woodguy v2.0

Scungilli Slushy: For sure. I’m thinking stable partner for Nurse, excellent stable mentor for Bouchard. Nurse isn’t ideal to teach as he’s still learning but at thirds 25 / 75 would probably work. They equal 100 after all.

Getting the puck back from top 6 forwards is the weakest part of 25’s game.

Putting 75 with him gives me a piss shiver.

Woodguy v2.0

As per Gregor:

Chiasson-McDavid-Drai
Rieder-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Zykov-Caggiula/Spooner-Rattie

McSorley33

Scungilli Slushy,

For sure. I’m thinking stable partner for Nurse, excellent stable mentor for Bouchard. Nurse isn’t ideal to teach as he’s still learning but at thirds 25 / 75 would probably work. They equal 100 after all.
*********************************************************************************************************
This is will be our 2nd paring in 24 months.

Nurse will do the puck retrieving over to Bouchard who will be doing the headman passing.

Kelfbom- Larsson
Nurse – Bouchard
Jones – Bear

5 of the 6 homegrown.

Need more picks and prospects at the forward position. Stat.

Scungilli Slushy

Woodguy v2.0: Agreed.

If 2 is 80% of 2 then he’ll destroy 3rd pairing comp.

That’s a 3rd pair you’d get out every chance when the other team’s best aren’t on the ice and would probably equal TOI for the 2nd pair, but have a QoC waaaaay lower.

They’d both likely be on PP. Having more even TOI across the group is beneficial in the long run keeping players fresh.

Given the versatility of 5 / 82 the coach has a lot of good options, until the cold hearted cap comes calling.

jtblack

Scungilli Slushy,

Can you Imagine if Edm actually slowed played a High End D Prospect?

Can you Imagine if Edm gave a high end D prospect a Stable NHL partner like Seksy?

Imagine if they deployed High end prospect soft 3rd pairing minutes and a little PP time?

Oh my. This sounds like DEVELOPMENT !!!!

Woodguy v2.0

Full line up vs VAN via Jack Micheals:

EDM vs VAN:
Chiasson-McDavid-Draisaitl
Rieder-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Brodziak-Kassian
Zykov-Spooner-Rattie

Nurse-Larsson
Gravel-Benning
Jones-Wideman

Koskinen

Woodguy v2.0

McSorley33:
No Zykov and Garrison may actually play another game in the NHL again……

Ryan Stanton or Keegan Lowe….?

Anything is better than Garrison at this point. Anything.

Love Hitch. Pumped when he was hired.

But if you are intentionally playing Garrison and not Zykov – you are not
putting out your best lineup.

Must be a story about Zykov behind the scenes.

Zykov is in and Garrison is not.