Under Pressure

by Lowetide

It’s never a good idea to have a media avail when you have no good answers, so fans shouldn’t be waiting for Peter Chiarelli to step up in the coming days. That said, Edmonton is a big little city and you’d have to be a monk or in a coma to be unaware of the rage in this cage in Edmonton city, now, today. Historically, the Oilers don’t fire people, but rather bump them upstairs. How might this go down?

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  • New Lowetide: Oilers acquire Alexander Petrovic from Panthers, flushing Chris Wideman and a 2019 third-round pick in the trade.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Struggling Oilers counting on Kris Russell to revitalize depleted defence.
  • New Minnia Feng: The head-scratching scenarios, cringe-worthy lines and questionable graphics in commercials featuring NHL players.
  • Lowetide: In a ‘Hail Mary’ roster shuffle, Oilers recall Kailer Yamamoto, waive Valentin Zykov and place Alex Chiasson on IR.
  • Lowetide: Peter Chiarelli’s free-agent success in 2018 may dictate Oilers big money moves in the summer of 2019.
  • Lowetide: Total recall—Who should be next on the Bakersfield-to-Edmonton shuttle?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Oilers’ Rattie still figuring out how to play for new-old coach Ken Hitchcock.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Condors coach Jay Woodcroft has a lifetime of hockey knowledge to share and the notebooks to prove it.
  • Jonathan Willis: The Ryan Spooner for Ryan Strome trade has yet to pay dividends for the Edmonton Oilers.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 8 prospect Winter 2018: Kirill Maksimov.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 7 prospect Winter 2018: Caleb Jones
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 6 Prospect winter 2018: Cooper Marody
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 5 Prospect winter 2018: Ethan Bear.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 4 Prospect winter 2018: Ryan McLeod.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 Prospect winter 2018: Tyler Benson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 2 Prospect winter 2018: Kailer Yamamoto.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 1 Prospect winter 2018: Evan Bouchard.

OILERS AFTER 38

  • Oilers in 2015: 15-20-3, 33 points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in 2016: 19-12-7, 45 points; goal differential +6
  • Oilers in 2017: 17-18-3, 37 points; goal differential -7
  • Oilers in 2018: 18-17-3, 39 points; goal differential -6

There’s really no difference between last year’s team and this one, and that’s probably about right. The injuries on defense derailed this team but it’s also true the lack of depth, well earned by trading draft picks and signing expensive free agents, is coming home to roost. If you were angry that Todd McLellan got fired before Peter Chiarelli, you may be heartened by recent events. Edmonton is now on pace to finish 39-37-6, 84 points. That’s a six-point improvement year over year. Ken Hitchcock is now 9-7-2 at the helm, destined (apparently) to land within inches of McLellan’s 9-10-1 after his last 20 games as Oilers’ coach.

OILERS IN DECEMBER

  • Oilers in December 2015: 6-5-2, 14 points; goal differential -10
  • Oilers in December 2016: 7-2-4, 18 points; goal differential +2
  • Oilers in December 2017: 7-5-1, 15 points; goal differential +3
  • Oilers in December 2018: 6-6-1, 13 points; goal differential -1

If you’d told me this would be the worst December of the McDavid era back about December 15 I would have called the cops. We are here. They’re bleeding now, the goalies are coming back to earth and Hitchcock doesn’t have enough defensemen to form a quorum for six, let alone ice a full six.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM DECEMBER

  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 0-1-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Dallas, St. Louis (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: Minnesota, Calgary (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: Colorado,Winnipeg(Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • At home to: Philadelphia (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Vancouver, San Jose, Winnipeg (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 0-4-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 6-6-1, 13 points in 13 games

It’s a good month for a losing team, an awful month for a team that fancies itself as a playoff contender. I think one of the problems currently surrounds where the fans believe the team should be and where the team itself believes they are at this time.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Nurse-Larsson played an enormous amount again and were once again overwhelmed. Went 16-17 in 16:19, 9-13 shots, 0-2 goals and 3-3 HDSC. Went 7-9 in 8:18 against Radil-Couture-Meier. I don’t think the Oilers win a game until the team can find a way to back off the minutes for this pairing.
  • Jones-Benning were 9-15 in 13:46, 8-8 shots, 2-3 goals and 1-4 HDSC. Far too high event for any pairing (five goals at 5-on-5 is unusual for a pairing) but I really like the duo. Were 6-5 in 6:09 against Kane-Hertl-Donskoi, 2-1 goals. Crazy. They are mobile and move the puck well. I like the pairing!
  • Gravel-Wideman went 3-12 in 9:30, 2-5 shots, no goals but 0-5 HDSC. Holy man this was an interesting game, five HDSC against the third pairing. Wideman took four minutes in penalties, he’s not good enough to be doing that kind of thing while staying in the lineup.
  • Cam Talbot stopped 33 of 40, .825. I think the third and fourth goals were the straw that broke the back. Edmonton has had subpar goaltending this week.
  • Natural Stat Trick and NHL. com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Draisaitl-McDavid-Rattie went 10-17 in 9:37, 9-9 shots and 1-1 goals. The captain was also 8-6 in 7:22 with Caggiula (2-1 goals), 2-1 in 1:54 with Yamamoto, 3-0 in 1:49 with Puljujarvi and he also spent time 5-on-5 with Kassian, Khaira, Lucic, Rieder and Brodziak. I think he spent two shifts with Donny Murdoch but my mind commenced to wandering at some point.
  • Lucic-Khaira-Yamamoto went 5-6 in 6:36, 2-2 shots and no goals. I liked the line. Lucic got an assist but on the Leon goal, and Khaira was quiet compared to recent performances. Yamamoto was solid if unspectacular. I’d like to see Khaira on the Nuge line, because passing to Lucic on a two-on-one is not a high percentage play.
  • Rieder-Brodziak-Kassian went 7-15 in 9:57, 5-9 shots and no goals. Not much shaking, this line needs to get more offensive chances (1-3 HDSC) and to cash once in awhile.
  • Caggiula-Nuge-Puljujarvi went 1-10 in 10:27, 0-2 goals (Puljujarvi), 1-8 in 6:25, no goals (Khaira) and 1-5 in 5:05, 0-2 goals (Caggiula). The Drake had a poor game, this didn’t correct much with JJ and that entire evening was a prolonged exercise in frustration. I don’t recall the last time RNH was as thoroughly flummoxed.

HITCHCOCK QUOTES

  • “You look at Ty Rattie and he had a very good game from the red line in and he struggled at the other end. I’m going to have to help him. We’re going to need players like that. And we have other young players. Jesse Puljujarvi had had two tough games now. If he’s on our team, I’m going to have to get him to play.
  • I thought it was an interesting five hours for the Rattie-Yamamoto competition. Rattie scored (or I thought he did) early in the game, but soon after had been demoted with Yamamoto moving up. It’s a fascinating view into Hitchcock’s thinking. McDavid says he likes playing with Rattie, I think the coach prefers more responsibility. Perhaps Nuge can move up and provide the defensive conscience.

DISCONNECT

I believe there is a disconnect between fans and management about the time line for winning. Fans want a winner today, management wants to stay the course and develop players via the draft and amateur procurement (Star Trek, Year of Hell). For that plan to work, the team has to win enough to keep the fans somewhat hopeful. The five-game losing streak, mostly at home, over Christmas, is a big damned headache but Peter Chiarelli can survive it.

I believe there is a disconnect between ownership and management allowing the playoffs to slip away. My guess is Katz has no issues with the development plan, as long as the team makes the playoffs in the spring. Whereas the fan anger is bothersome, the ownership ire could be terminal for this management group. Peter Chiarelli cannot survive this headache.

The Edmonton Oilers wake up this morning No. 11 of 15 western conference teams. The club is four points out of a playoff spot and six points out of being the No. 31 team in the NHL.

If the plan continues according to form (don’t make a panic move), the Oilers could be in a strong lottery position by the ides of January. I believe Peter Chiarelli and the management crew would like to hold the line, to keep the draft picks and Ethan Bear and Jesse Puljujarvi and Caleb Jones.

I think the owner wants the playoffs. Based on what we know about the inner workings of the Oilers, and the recent firing of Todd McLellan, we might expect a Learjet to arrive in the city, a limo ride to the arena, an owner yelling until he turns red as red can be, followed by quick action.

The new admin, or the current admin with an attitude adjustment, will trade the 2019 first-round pick and Ryan Spooner to the Kings for Tyler Toffoli, and then deal Jesse Puljujarvi+ to Carolina for one of their defensemen who can help.

I don’t think this season is worth saving. Honestly. Even if you add a scoring right winger and a good NHL defenseman, mortgaging the future, it’s still a tough row to hoe in making the playoffs.

Stay the course, find a way to hang in there until Oscar Klefbom returns. I have no quarrel with a management change, I suspect it is inevitable at this point. I do object to a quick change in general manager and then several deals that will mortgage the future in favor of improving today.

You canNOT make progress from here by trading young value contracts and draft picks for veterans being paid big money who carry around massive cap obligations. That’s exactly the kind of thinking that got this team into the current mess. In acquiring Griffin Reinhart, Cam Talbot, Eric Gryba and others, Peter Chiarelli made an attempt to hurry sunrise and it resulted in one playoff berth in four.

Stay the course. This can be fixed, but in June, not January.

OILERS CURRENT DRAFT PICKS 2019

  • No. 11 overall
  • No. 42 overall
  • No. 73 overall
  • No. 79 overall
  • No. 104 overall
  • No. 166 overall
  • No. 197 overall

If they’re going to trade a pick, make it the second-round selection included in a deal to send Milan Lucic to his next NHL city. That will help this organization far more than a panic deal in the early days of 2019.

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Jaxon

Don’t trade Nurse. In his defence: depleted D, playing with a new-to-the-team, slow boots, 3rd pair partner against the toughest competition. He’s only 23. This is also the player who had good underlying numbers last season while playing the 6th most 5v5 minutes in the NHL. He has 12 points in his last 12 games! We have been lamenting the lack of a scoring D for years/decades, this is probably the highest scoring 12 game sample by an Oiler D since…. well probably Coffey and we want to trade him?

ArmchairGM

GordieHoweHatTrick: maybe It will be a LHD leaving…

Nurse + Spooner for Niederreiter? There has to be more salary leaving than coming in the next trade.

GordieHoweHatTrick

ArmchairGM:
Wilde,

Yes, somethings up. I think it involves Benning leaving for a winger who is having a bad year.

maybe It will be a LHD leaving…

ArmchairGM

season not played,

McDavid for Jack Hughes+?? Are you insane? WE ARE GOING TO WIN THE JACK HUGHES LOTTERY!

ArmchairGM

Wilde,

Yes, somethings up. I think it involves Benning leaving for a winger who is having a bad year.

hunter1909

season not played: I would actually consider flipping McDavid for a package. I saw earlier someone suggesting several bruins including Pasternak and McAvoy should be a target.

You know, if this grows, then gains momentum until it happens I’m going to career change into an Oxford University permanent guest lecturer, specializing in implausible outcomes.

hunter1909

@ Lowetide:

Why not start a list of the Oilers washed up draft pick/prospects since 2003? Where they’re playing etc?

The list to include every ex – Oiler still playing pro hockey(Taylor Hall, cough cough).

Asking for a friend.

PS: Don’t be surprised if Hall does sign with Boston, which is one of the best hockey towns anywhere. Then McDavid goes to the Rangers and mayhem ensues.

flyfish1168

OriginalPouzar:
Drake could score a goal here and there when on the top two lines, however, he gave up WAY more than he provided and the team is better without him in the lineup – poor decisions all over the ice, low hockey IQ and terrible positionally. Tenacity could not make up for it.

Garrison and Caggiula were two players that made the team worse when on the ice.

I don’t mind losing these two players but here is the problem
1) Cap space going into 2020
2) Best player is Drake- bleeding skill again
3) Draft pick 3rd round- I see you feel only 15 % makes it. I disagree. I went back to 2012 and forward it about 30 % that plays 100 games. and 20 % 200. just approx.

We are trading for marginal players and losing the future and health of rebuilding. Even if we were to make the playoffs it probably is for 1 round and then we are in the same situation next year again. I believe if you are rebuilding or retooling you need space to work in these three areas. asset management. We need to start winning some trades outright

season not played

You know, when you think about it a case could be made that winning the 2015 lottery was actually a curse. Retribution by the hockey gods for the 80s? Probably not, personally I’d like to think the debt has been paid in full for those 5 cups, but hockey is a funny sport, things happen for reasons that can not be explained.

I seem to remember thinking it was too bad Hanifan didn’t shoot right and I was not a fan of Strome so as long as management was satisfied with Draisaitl as their big Center moving forward the Oil would probably grab Marner. At that point Hall had really started to irritate me but the thought of a first line of Draisaitl between Hall and Marner sounded pretty good. 16 and 33 probably don’t get traded for a player I thought EVERYBODY in the hockey world knew was in the process of busting, no draft picks for Chiarelli and Tmac, and likely a lot of other questionable trades like the one every body hates for the right shooting d, gryba, probably still grab Talbot but the point is MacTavish and it seemed like the whole organization decided to be patient and finally do rebuild 3.0???correctly.

Anyway, with all that being said, I would actually consider flipping McDavid for a package. I saw earlier someone suggesting several bruins including Pasternak and McAvoy should be a target. I’m not sure Boston actually does that but in dreamworld throw in Jake Debrusk and I do it. Mcdavid, despite being a true blue hockey player and a classy individual, eventually enough will be enough, Brandon Manning?WTF? Strome for spooner? They need to do something to totally buck the hockey world to break out of this almost 30 years of what I would classify as ineptitude but for several of those years complete and total incompetence. Maybe trading possibly the best soloist player ever will reverse the curse.

At the draft, McDavid for Jack Hughes +.

knighttown

Just take a gander at those wingers, listed in order as posted by Wilde:
-Khaira
-Rattie
-Spooner
-Puljujaarvi
-Rieder
-Yamamoto
-Gambardella
-Kassian
-Lucic

I mean just look at this monstrosity. Every one of those players has been a healthy scratch or in the AHL this season except maybe Rieder who has zero goals. Fourth line is first line is 3rd line is healthy scratch is 2nd line in Bakersfield.

Benson and Russell. Would it make Any difference?

Zelepukin

The verdict is out on whether Chia is good at evaluating players. For all we know, the few wins he has had like Koski, have been all on specific scouts. Heck, every player recommendtation that has resulted in a trade or draft has solely been by a scout and Chia has taken their word for it. I always took the Griffin draft trade solely as a result of scouts pumping GR tires as if he was the next greatness Dman to ever live. No way Chia ever saw him play.

In fact, at this point, if you told me Chia has never watched any other team play ever, I’d believe you. All his decisions are based on recommendations by other staff members.

Zelepukin

What is up is that Hitch is looking for players who can impact the game and Chia is doing nothing but acquiring players who are incapable of doing so. It has to all be very political. There is no other reason why Lucic is even in the lineup. It’s the Ference scenario all over again. Does anyone really know if his injury warranted being LITR? I always felt that it probably wasn’t and because he was captain and expectations were high plus he was incredibly terrible, untradeable and incapable of playing in the NHL, we put him on LITR as the safest solution to ignore the screw-up in the first place.

Now Hitch has seen enough from forwards like Lucic who could be replaced by a Defenseman and garner the same results. The fact is that coaching can’t change an older player’s style or physical age within the game. Someone like PJ, Yama, or Garb, maybe. Hitch has made those comments about helping the younger players but that is only possible if he can play them. If anything I’d like to see Hitch call up everyone he can just so he can go back to Katz/Nichols and say look, here is who has potential within the organisation and here is who we need to get rid off.

Wilde

It’s so weird.

Throw out the player evaluations for a second, and combine the news of the day from Chiarelli to the news of the day from Hitchcock.

Here are the lines from practice, before and after the shuffle.

(The after version is less a speculation as to deployment and more a depth chart extension based on salary; ability; Bob Stauffer’s tweet having Petrovic over Benning)

Khaira – McDavid – Rattie

Caggiula – RNH – Puljujärvi

Rieder – Draisaitl – Yamamoto

Lucic – Brodziak – Kassian

(Spooner)

Nurse – Russell

Jones – Larsson

Gravel – Benning

Khaira – McDavid – Rattie

Spooner – RNH – Puljujärvi

Rieder – Draisaitl – Yamamoto

Gambardella – Brodziak – Kassian

(Lucic)

Nurse – Russell

Jones – Larsson

Manning – Petrovic

Gravel – Benning

Let’s think about two things –

1) How long does this team typically sit on NHL-level players who aren’t playing? In this case, Gravel-Benning are both guys who can play.

2) I’m pretty sure they’re over the cap now when Sekera comes back.

To add to this, Milan’s likely going to be healthy scratched soon, but the coach has never trusted Spooner, and Gambardella coming up and playing every game would be markedly different than the handling of Patrick Russell.

I think Joe G. has a chance of being able to straight up play the Brodziak’s line, turn more pucks over on the forecheck and look for/get inside chances more often than either of the regular wingers there. I’ve talked about this in the last few weeks but I truly believe he could plausibly play that game at an NHL level as an every-day guy.

I don’t know if the org thinks that, though. And if they don’t, then both Lucic and Spooner have to be playing. Lucic has been trending down under Hitchcock (in time-on-ice) and Spooner’s never been a trusted guy despite being the only centre available during a time where Hitchcock was working away desperately trying to make the lines work with three of the skill C’s on two lines. Hitchcock was never going to fall in love with the game he plays, but other layers of the overall circumstance benefitted him on paper.

Yamamoto also /just/ got here.

So two forwards have been subtracted from the mix, coinciding with a need for wingers as a result of the deployment switching to the unicorn model, coinciding with an impending salary cap surplus, coinciding with two D-men who are likely going to play being added, coinciding with another D-man coming back from injury, coinciding with another on the horizon.

Something’s up.

I remain spooked of the (hypothetical, for now) deal.

YKOil

Fine with the Petrovic trade, would have been happier had it been a 4th round pick, but I deem it an okay trade.

Not a Caggiula fan and was ready for him to go but that doesn’t make me happy with the Manning trade, the extra year being the killer for me. Russell is coming back and we just picked up a RHD so why add a depth LHD (with Klefbom and Sekera incoming Feb)? Lest anyone thinks we will just trade Russell or Sekera at the trade deadline or off-season and that we’ll be fine as we have Manning to step up – what f*(king planet are you on? Manning is nowhere near as good as Sekera or Russell and the idea is to get BETTER and not worse.

The Manning trade makes no sense. Spooner for Manning is a trade I would have been okay with.

The Spooner news doesn’t surprise me at all. Just makes me sad.

Now I am worried about the next shoe to drop. Would breathe a sigh of relief if only Gravel goes but, honestly, will still be pissed off as Gravel is, exactly, the right combination of performance-to-price that we need for this team given its Cap situation.

This was not a mixed day for PC as the scuttlebutt on Spooner is a searing indictment on PC’s overall body of work. From having a 1st line RW, albeit one who couldn’t drive a line, to having a player no one wants… is Milbury levels of bad.

workaroundaccount

SwedishPoster:
Let’s get all the NHL D with shitty puckhandling.
Also one of the worst swedish D to get himself drafted in Robin Norell. Good times.

Better team bulding than Tebow and Sanchez on the same team.

SwedishPoster

Let’s get all the NHL D with shitty puckhandling.
Also one of the worst swedish D to get himself drafted in Robin Norell. Good times.

Zelepukin

drglen: Burns and Bucky both played some forward.Crazy idea, but if any of those guys are actually converted forwards… that might be interesting.

They can’t score less than Lucic, or meat hands the puck around as badly, so I can’t see the harm in trying?

drglen

Zelepukin: Hope that Hitch can turn some of them into wingers?

Trying to think outside the box here.

Burns and Bucky both played some forward. Crazy idea, but if any of those guys are actually converted forwards… that might be interesting.

drglen

slopitch:
I cant figure out what the oilers are gonna do with all these 5-7 dmen.

intersquad softball team. D vs Forwards. Yawney is allowed to play for the D squad,

Zelepukin

Ribs: lol. Says every Oilers fan for the last decade.

Hope that Hitch can turn some of them into wingers?

Trying to think outside the box here.

Ribs

slopitch: I cant figure out what the oilers are gonna do with all these 5-7 dmen.

lol. Says every Oilers fan for the last decade.

Ribs

Drew: I thought we were looking for puck movers???

Has the plan changed again???

when did this happen???

Hitchcock prefers that the puck does not move.

Scungilli Slushy

slopitch:
I cant figure out what the oilers are gonna do with all these 5-7 dmen.

Oilers are marginally better but cost more. Chai buggered the cap and continues to make it worse. They lose a winger who drags possession and Garrison/Wideman who arent nhl players though. Im just not sure about spending assets for little gains.

I just cant see the plan once Klef, Sekera and Russel return. Is the plan to flip Russell or Manning? Is 77 hurt longer than originally announced? The more Chai does the harder the job of the next gm. Another pick gone and cap money spent. Lets hope Manning and Petrovic can return to previous years levels.

The Oilers and many teams seem to feel that when they can’t compete it’s about size and the ability to play a hard game.

That can be true as the league is full of strong talented players. But what wins is ability in any package. Certainly it’s easier and cheaper to find bigger stronger players than more talented players.

The players going out are good choices, it remains to be seen if those coming in make any difference.

BONE207

drglen: ah,no mulah to pay… that is a problem.Well , out of the box solutions.I know a guy , who knows a guy, lets just say your house, family vacations to disneyland for the next 10 years, plus your kids tuition at harvard are ‘free’…. as a gift, for coming to Edmonton.Also, I’ve got 2000 shares in aurora Cannabis that , you know, I’m not using right now… you can have them. free. Katz has connections… grease the wheel.. make things go smoother… …oh dang I suppose there are laws about these things aren’t there.

So….about this guy…

BONE207

Pescador: I plan on getting pretty loaded these next couple of weeks,
that should be exciting

Smartest thing I’ve heard all day. I’ll start tomorrow morning

slopitch

I cant figure out what the oilers are gonna do with all these 5-7 dmen.

Oilers are marginally better but cost more. Chai buggered the cap and continues to make it worse. They lose a winger who drags possession and Garrison/Wideman who arent nhl players though. Im just not sure about spending assets for little gains.

I just cant see the plan once Klef, Sekera and Russel return. Is the plan to flip Russell or Manning? Is 77 hurt longer than originally announced? The more Chai does the harder the job of the next gm. Another pick gone and cap money spent. Lets hope Manning and Petrovic can return to previous years levels.

OriginalPouzar

Ryan: Sorry for venting so many posts on you site today.

Watching Oilers management make these ongoing litany of poor decisions is exasperating.

I’m not actually sure what site you are talking about and what venting posts you are talking about?

OriginalPouzar

Ryan:
OriginalPouzar,

Have you looked at the cap implications of today’s transactions?

We’re eating into Sekera’s LTIR by over $2m.

I wouldn’t imagine that you’re very happy about that.

No, I have have not – the 31 degrees and sunny called for pool time this morning and now we are off for some temples and markets, etc.

Yup, that’s not great, however, at the end of the day, eating in to LTIR relief by $2M is no different than eating in to it by $1.00 except for the magnitude of transaction that may need to be undertaken to get compliant when Sekera is activated.

Whether they are in to the relief by $1.00 or $2M, they are still not accumulating any cap space daily to bank and use for later.

Lets not forget, our total daily cap hit includes all players on both IR and LTIR so, when Klefbom is activated, someone will get sent down and their cap hit disappears (well $1,050,000 of it), same thing with Chiasson’s activation and Russell’s activation.

Scungilli Slushy

jtblack: to all “The Connor wants out” crowdHow exactly can Connor leave?

By asking. What do you say if he’s unhappy? Firethemall might work. This isn’t Lucic we’re worried about.

OriginalPouzar

Lowetide:
Welcome back (or back to a computer) OP.

Thanks – not back yet but am off the boat (7 days on a 53 foot Catamaran) and am enjoying a couple of days on the mainland in Colombo at the Shangri-La – definitely needed some pampering after 7 days on the sail boat.

The long journey home starts tonight (well, the morning of January 1, technically, at 4:45am) – Colombo to Abu Dhabi to Toronto to Calgary – in late on January 1.

I’ve kept up to speed on thing on my phone, generally, but didn’t want to roam too much – sounds like I picked a perfect time for an Oiler fan like me to be away from most social media posting.

jtblack

Scungilli Slushy: Kassian was bad but Gagner wasn’t the best player in the world and the hope and future of the franchise. I’ve never bought into much Connor wanting out but if anything would make a young guy start to wonder. If Connor or Mr McDavid said anything to the team this would be a thing to motivate.

to all “The Connor wants out” crowd How exactly can Connor leave?

Scungilli Slushy

godot10: Yes he did.It was “accidentally” on purpose.

Kassian was bad but Gagner wasn’t the best player in the world and the hope and future of the franchise. I’ve never bought into much Connor wanting out but if anything would make a young guy start to wonder. If Connor or Mr McDavid said anything to the team this would be a thing to motivate.

Ryan

Lowetide:
Welcome back (or back to a computer) OP.

Sorry for venting so many posts on you site today.

Watching Oilers management make these ongoing litany of poor decisions is exasperating.

OmJo

BONE207:
After all the hoopla today, what if this team wins 4 in a row? Like I said earlier. Exciting couple of weeks ahead.

If this team wins 4 in a row then McDavid will be emitting more radiation that Chernobyl.

Ryan

OriginalPouzar,

Have you looked at the cap implications of today’s transactions?

We’re eating into Sekera’s LTIR by over $2m.

I wouldn’t imagine that you’re very happy about that.

jtblack

Ryan: Well, look at the bright side.

At least it sends a stern warning around the league.

Take liberties agsinst one of our players and we will acquire you.

You think Lucic is the deterent…

If this isn’t the ultimate deterent, I don’t know what is…

You think Getzlaf is sleeping soundly tonight?

+1.

Lucic is a deterent. To all pucks. He scares them from going in the net. 🙂

OriginalPouzar

nelson88:
Samorukov with a goal and assist to go with penalties through 40 minutes. Didn’t have a great Oilers camp but have watched him play a couple ohl games this year where he has looked very good. Also logging big minutes for Russia at U20.Has the tools to be a good 3 or 4 dman. Will take patience but my sleeper pick to have a better NHL career than some of the more heralded prospects

With Ryan McFadden turning pro, Samorukov has received some more offensive responsibility and PP time (although still behind Merkley in that area). For a “defence first” d-man, which he is, he is showing that his skating and puck moving are plus skills that may be able to translate to offence at the next level.

I’m excited and intrigued to see how he does in Bakersfield next year.

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Speaking of prospects, last day to get Ryan McLeod signed and have his contract eligible to slide next year (if he doesn’t play 10 NHL games) – I’ve finally given up on that dream. Nice work by his agent not allowing that contract to be signed in the 2018 calendar year. I assume he’ll sign shortly after the turn of the calendar – sigh.

drglen

OriginalPouzar: Russia will continue to have problems at this tournament when they refuse to include players like Krill Maksimov for “political reasons” and disregard that such a player should be a lock for the team on merit.

Political reasons? Did he say or do something wrong?

OriginalPouzar

Pescador:
3-2 SUI over Glorious Russia

Russia will continue to have problems at this tournament when they refuse to include players like Krill Maksimov for “political reasons” and disregard that such a player should be a lock for the team on merit.

drglen

Pescador: Ya but we can’t pay him, so that’s a problem

ah, no mulah to pay… that is a problem. Well , out of the box solutions. I know a guy , who knows a guy, lets just say your house, family vacations to disneyland for the next 10 years, plus your kids tuition at harvard are ‘free’…. as a gift, for coming to Edmonton. Also, I’ve got 2000 shares in aurora Cannabis that , you know, I’m not using right now… you can have them. free. Katz has connections… grease the wheel.. make things go smoother… … oh dang I suppose there are laws about these things aren’t there.

Pescador

BONE207:
After all the hoopla today, what if this team wins 4 in a row? Like I said earlier. Exciting couple of weeks ahead.

I plan on getting pretty loaded these next couple of weeks,
that should be exciting

Pescador

drglen:
Maybe we’ve become more interesting to the Toronto media than how great the leafs are.producer/control room: “guys, should we lead with Tavares 5 point night or the latest in the oilers drama/?Roger that… cue the oilers .. ready in 3..2.. ‘…

Duthie:
“File this one under wtf!”

Pescador

drglen:
Lucic problem persists.spooner problem persists. Couple more guys you litetally cannot play.Zuccarello still avail ? You can at least play him

Ya but we can’t pay him, so that’s a problem

drglen

BONE207:
After all the hoopla today, what if this team wins 4 in a row? Like I said earlier. Exciting couple of weeks ahead.

Who’s going to the game tomorrow? ( who has like 700$ to blow off, just because..) .. If they beat the jets, you never know. Hmm, would those guys even be there tomorrow?

I was just thinking to myself ” Hey baby, great news, pack your bags … I’ve been traded to Edmonton, oh ya and it’s minus 19.” I’m not sure that work vs home life dynamics is super awesome right now.

Alpine

greenshifter:
I would take Petrovic & Manning over Garrison Caggiula & Wideman anyday.I believe this gives the team a better chance to win now. Can’t it just be that simple?

I’d agree but the salary cap is a thing.

BONE207

After all the hoopla today, what if this team wins 4 in a row? Like I said earlier. Exciting couple of weeks ahead.

drglen

Maybe we’ve become more interesting to the Toronto media than how great the leafs are. producer/control room: “guys, should we lead with Tavares 5 point night or the latest in the oilers drama/? Roger that… cue the oilers .. ready in 3..2.. ‘…

godot10

OmJo: Kassian didn’t purposefully swing his stick at Gagners jaw.

Yes he did. It was “accidentally” on purpose.

Jethro Tull

106 and 106:
This thread is great entertainment. LT said it best, this team can be fixed in June not December.

Like the previous 10 Junes and the next 10 Junes. At some point ypu got to say “fuck it, shall we give winning a try?”