Game 39 2018-19: Jets at Oilers

If you tuned out on Boxing Day and are just now picking up on news from the good ship Oilers, hold on to your hat. And your ass. In the space of five days, Alex Chiasson was placed on IR, Jujhar Khaira came back from suspension, Valentin Zykov was waived (and lost), Kailer Yamamoto recalled, Drake Caggiula and Jason Garrison got traded, as did a third-round pick, Chris Wideman got traded. The Oilers acquired Alex Petrovic, Brandon Manning and an SHL defenseman named Robin Norell. Oh! And Joe Gambardella got the call to the show. Ladies and gentlemen, your Edmonton Oilers! Either Peter Chiarelli was doing an impersonation of the climactic scene in The Godfather (Drake Caggiula as Moe Green), or Ken Hitchcock submitted his naughty list and the general manager executed it with extreme prejudice. No matter, you’ll need to buy a program tonight.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Lowetide: Oilers acquire Brandon Manning in a Sunday shocker, and this ought to be interesting.
  • New Lowetide: Oilers acquire Alexander Petrovic from Panthers, flushing Chris Wideman and a 2019 third-round pick in the trade.
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Struggling Oilers counting on Kris Russell to revitalize depleted defence.
  • New Minnia Feng: The head-scratching scenarios, cringe-worthy lines and questionable graphics in commercials featuring NHL players.
  • Lowetide: In a ‘Hail Mary’ roster shuffle, Oilers recall Kailer Yamamoto, waive Valentin Zykov and place Alex Chiasson on IR.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 8 prospect Winter 2018: Kirill Maksimov.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 7 prospect Winter 2018: Caleb Jones
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 6 Prospect winter 2018: Cooper Marody
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 5 Prospect winter 2018: Ethan Bear.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 4 Prospect winter 2018: Ryan McLeod.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 Prospect winter 2018: Tyler Benson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 2 Prospect winter 2018: Kailer Yamamoto.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 1 Prospect winter 2018: Evan Bouchard.

OILERS AFTER 39

  • Oilers in 2015: 15-21-3, 33 points; goal differential -22
  • Oilers in 2016: 19-13-7, 45 points; goal differential +4
  • Oilers in 2017: 17-19-3, 37 points; goal differential -12
  • Oilers in 2018: 18-17-3, 39 points; goal differential -6

The current Oilers are still clear of the non-playoff teams in goal differential, but the point total year over year is basically the same. For those who wonder how important tonight’s game is to the club, a win would put Edmonton on a trajectory for 82, 40-36-6, 86 points. Note: My numbers exclude empty net goals. Also, if you are reading this Monday night, a reminder this post is published at 8:30 am Edmonton time. You have to log in to get it right away.

OILERS IN DECEMBER

  • Oilers in December 2015: 6-6-2, 14 points; goal differential -11
  • Oilers in December 2016: 7-2-5, 19 points; goal differential +2
  • Oilers in December 2017: 7-5-1, 15 points; goal differential +3
  • Oilers in December 2018: 6-6-1, 13 points; goal differential -1

A win tonight and the club will basically tie all seasons but the playoff McDavids. It has been a disappointing two weeks, but a win tonight gets the losing streak behind them. I had a feeling the team would lose Saturday, not as certain about tonight. Sometimes a major shock like yesterday’s turnover wakes everyone up.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN DECEMBER

  • At home to: Vegas (Expected 0-1-0) Actual (1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Dallas, St. Louis (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • At home to: Minnesota, Calgary (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 2-0-0)
  • On the road to: Colorado,Winnipeg(Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • At home to: Philadelphia (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: St. Louis, Tampa Bay, Vancouver, San Jose, Winnipeg (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 0-4-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 6-6-1, 13 points in 13 games

Incredibly, this mish mash of good, bad and ugly would represent a direct hit for my predictions if the Oilers can only do the impossible this evening. Ken Hitchcock’s current Oilers record is 9-7-2, and he’ll be closer to being a doppelganger for Todd McLellan’s 9-10-1 with a loss tonight.

INTRODUCING THE TEAM

  • Forwards numbers are 5-on-5 per 60, defensemen are Shots for percentage 5-on-5.
  • So, the new hires are Joe Gambardella, Brandon Manning and Alex Petrovic.
  • Gone are Drake Caggiula, Jason Garrison and Chris Wideman are way on down the line.
  • I was tempted to call today’s post “wait ’til your father gets home” because the moves this weekend feel like Chiarelli grabbing players Hitchcock might find more useful than the group sent away.
  • I think Kris Russell comes back tonight and wonder about Chiasson’s status in the coming days. We know the timeline for Andrej Sekera has been moved back, can’t say I’m surprised. The Oilers don’t tell us much about injuries but the Sekera situation seemed especially vague.

JOE GAMBARDELLA

There are players you cheer for more than the others, for one reason or another. Gambardella’ scouting report on the day the Oilers signed him was intriguing. He scored a lot off the rush, forechecked effectively and had good speed. He also worked hard on his game.

  • Gambardella: “Trying to work on a quicker release for my shot and different types of skating techniques. You can always improve in any aspect of the game and for me right now, I’m just trying to get a quicker release off and my skating can always get better.”

It’s one thing to get a pro contract but quite another to keep pushing and trying to find your way to the next level. Eric Rodgers has gifted us with his latest stats, and Gambardella shows well.

Puljujarvi scored well in a short stint early in the season, while youngsters Marody and Yamamoto have delivered and been rewarded with recalls. That means next up is Gambardella, with Benson on deck but you’d like him to get major playing time. The Condors roster took a major hit on the weekend, coach Jay Woodcroft watched Yamamoto and Gambardella fly north.

IT MOVED, BUT NOT MUCH

I wrote extensively yesterday at The Athletic about the two trades Peter Chiarelli made yesterday, so won’t bother going into great detail here. Suffice to say that acquiring two third-pairing defensemen on a team with so many major issues is akin to fiddling while Rome burns.

STANDING

Every year on January 1, I write a story here at Lowetide.ca that serves as a ‘state of the union’ address. Not that I am the president of anything more than this sofa the dog and I are sharing at the edge of the universe, but it’s a collection of thoughts and stories about the way forward.

I call it Standing on the Shoreline and they aren’t all melancholy. I had decided to call tomorrow’s Standing in Peaceful Waters but the losing streak makes it impossible. Tomorrow’s post is going to include some draft things and will also include thoughts on Peter Chiarelli’s path forward from here. I’m not able to see the future, and have much to learn about the game of hockey and life as well. I see some of the reasoning behind making moves yesterday (Drake Caggiula had issues without the puck, Garrison and Wideman didn’t earn the coach’s trust) but am honestly nonplussed by the actual transactions.

Ken Hitchcock surely had input into these trades. Andrej Sekera’s time line changed. Maybe there’s more here than meets the eye. I am unable to see the vision from here. I expect another move.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260, we have a one-off show kicking off New Year’s and we’re going to do it right! Scheduled to appear:

  • Murat Ates, The Athletic Winnipeg. One of the bright lights of modern hockey writing and analysis, we’ll check in with Murat on tonight’s opponent.
  • John Kryk, Postmedia and Toronto Sun. Massive NFL weekend and coaching opportunities opening up every hour on the hour.
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. The trades and the future for Peter Chiarelli.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Sierra says:

    Professor Q: I really don’t understand the eyesight claim.

    And it seems pretty silly to think that the team, the player and his agents hadn’t thought about eyesight.

  2. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers continue to tantalize.

    Over to ESPN updates! First time this year!

  3. Pescador says:

    Fragile team = 4-1 Jets

  4. OmJo says:

    Petrovic went for the hit instead of the puck?

  5. hunter1909 says:

    Sierra: And it seems pretty silly to think that the team, the player and his agents hadn’t thought about eyesight.

    Assuming you’re talking about Lucic – I think he’s nuts. Autistic borderline and probably more than that.

  6. Sierra says:

    OmJo:
    Petrovic went for the hit instead of the puck?

    How many swipes at the puck and bobbles did Petrovic make?

  7. Gerta Rauss says:

    best play of Lucic’s season but Nuge can’t bury it

  8. OmJo says:

    Can we stop trying to get Lucic going and start trying to win games?

  9. hunter1909 says:

    Did I just miss another Winnipeg goal? ESPN says it’s 2-1 Winnipeg.

  10. Ribs says:

    Manning with his first minus of his Oilers career.

    Petrovic looks like has been heavily sedated. Completely checked out. What happened to this guy?

  11. drglen says:

    Lucic pass a bit off

  12. Munny says:

    Nice hook on Yessee

  13. OmJo says:

    Ribs:
    Manning with his first minus of his Oilers career.

    Petrovic looks like has been heavily sedated. Completely checked out. What happened to this guy?

    Something in the water.

  14. Pescador says:

    Ribs:
    Manning with his first minus of his Oilers career.

    Petrovic looks like has been heavily sedated. Completely checked out. What happened to this guy?

    Concussed 3 times in one game fighting Patrick Kane

  15. OmJo says:

    Remember when the winter classic was a special game? Thanks, Bettman.

  16. Munny says:

    The refs have no interest in stretching this game out.

  17. OmJo says:

    Pescador: Concussed 3 times in one game fighting Patrick Kane

    Quoted for just how hilarious this image is.

  18. Pescador says:

    Ribs:
    Manning with his first minus of his Oilers career.

    Petrovic looks like has been heavily sedated. Completely checked out. What happened to this guy?

    More stunned than anything
    Can’t believe how many odd man rushes he has to defend every shift

  19. drglen says:

    .not quite matching their pace and intrnsity. But much better. Cmon boys

  20. Gerta Rauss says:

    It’d be nice to get out of this period down 2-1

    We’ll worry about scoring the tying goal in the 3rd period

  21. Ribs says:

    Pescador: Concussed 3 times in one game fighting Patrick Kane

    I had to google this, haha… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyvvu_tH_wI

    Well, he is apparently well versed in getting his ass kicked. That should serve him well here.

  22. Munny says:

    Remember that angle, Jones.

  23. Paulie says:

    Let’s play 4 words. You say a team and list 4 words that describe them. I’ll do the Jets : Big fast skilled relentless. Any takers for the Oilers?

  24. Ribs says:

    Munny:
    Remember that angle, Jones.

    I did wonder if he did that on purpose or not.

  25. Gerta Rauss says:

    Oilers PP

    unpossible

  26. OmJo says:

    Paulie:
    Let’s play 4 words. You say a team and list 4 words that describe them. I’ll do the Jets : Big fast skilled relentless. Any takers for the Oilers?

    Fuck my actual life?

    Pardon my francais

  27. Lowetide says:

    Leon scored.

  28. OmJo says:

    What a blast!

  29. Gerta Rauss says:

    wow…there’s that impossible angle from Leon

    *edit-it wasn’t as deep as his usual spot

  30. Munny says:

    Seems like forever since Drai got one from his hole.

  31. OmJo says:

    I love one timers.

  32. drglen says:

    Nice

  33. Munny says:

    Actually, replay shows from the dot.

    Stupid. Wheeler.

  34. Gerta Rauss says:

    lol

    oh those OIlers

  35. Pescador says:

    What a bunch of assholes we are

  36. OmJo says:

    Yikea

  37. drglen says:

    Geesus. Glove side easy stop

  38. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Nothing ever changes.

  39. Zelepukin says:

    Breaking out is hard.

  40. smellyglove says:

    The good:

    Bouchard looked good in the 3rd period of Can-Rus. Coach had him out there for much of the last ten minutes. He held the zone, carried the puck well, generated opportunities.

    The bad:

    Jesse Pulju, tuned in for past ten minutes, again. No hockey sense. He is Yak in MPS’s body,

  41. Pescador says:

    Ken Hitchcock
    From leisurely retirement to incurable stomach ulcer
    In under 20 Oiler games

  42. Pescador says:

    Zelepukin:
    Breaking out is hard.

    Being an Oiler fan is borderline masochistic

  43. hunter1909 says:

    smellyglove:
    The good:

    Bouchard looked good in the 3rd period of Can-Rus. Coach had him out there for much of the last ten minutes. He held the zone, carried the puck well, generated opportunities.

    The bad:

    Jesse Pulju, tuned in for past ten minutes, again. No hockey sense. He is Yak in MPS’s body,

    He’s going to be great next training camp.

  44. Sierra says:

    Way too many defensive mistakes in their own D zone, the reason for so many goals against.

  45. ArmchairGM says:

    Pescador:
    Ken Hitchcock
    From leisurely retirement to incurable stomach ulcer
    In under 20 Oiler games

    I LOL’d. Poor man.

  46. who says:

    Okay. I hope it’s just 1st game nerves, bur Petrovic might be WORSE than Gryba. His puck skills are brutal. Maybe worse than Lucic. Wow.
    Manning looks like a 3rd pairing guy. Physical, but limited. And we are stuck with his 2.25 million salary next year.
    How many games do these guys get to improve before we can fire Chia?
    Also, Benning continues to be bad. He can’t make a pass to save his life, and now he can’t even hammer it out off the glass.

  47. OmJo says:

    Manning made a couple questionable hits in the first.

  48. Rocknrolla says:

    It’s a conversation between friends….right Drew 😂

  49. Munny says:

    Brief flashback to the presser today…

    Does it take a long time for trades to happen because of the approval process they have to go through on this end?

  50. Pescador says:

    I like Petrovic, always have
    Now I feel sorry for him, as Lowetide has written many times
    Edmonton is where many many NHL careers come to die.

  51. Material Elvis says:

    From my POV, the goalie should have covered goal two. He also should have stopped the third but was slightly out of position. The Petrovic-Nurse pairing looks like they are having trouble. Manning is doing alright. The forward winger group is dreadful. They’re going to need a rebuild on the wings.

  52. Professor Q says:

    “Do you want to win, or do you want to coach?”

    Interesting.

  53. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Oil (with current players out) have the worst defense in the conference? League?

    Change my mind.

  54. PinkSocks says:

    Too frustrating for me today. Prepared our annual meal, single malt cork popped, walked back to the tv, saw Leon score. Nice blast, good to see the PP having some success. Then Jones makes a poor decision not helped by Brodziaks head being fully in his own ass along with his feet in cement boots. Alas these are our Oilers.

    Happy 2019 to LT and fellow LTers. And a toast, “May we meet again in 365 days looking towards a new decade with PC in the rear view mirror, and a competent person making GM decisions for the Oil into the 2020s”

  55. Munny says:

    That doesn’t go off a stick I think Pujo scores there.

  56. Munny says:

    Jones has had a few misadventures this game. That one led to a Larsson penalty.

  57. PinkSocks says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    Oil (with current players out) have the worst defense in the conference? League?

    Change my mind.

    League. And it isn’t close.

  58. Ribs says:

    This is the most active I’ve seen Spooner play in Oilers silks. He must have read that he needs to play better if he wants out of here any time soon.

  59. Pescador says:

    Have to cover my eyes

  60. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    PinkSocks: League. And it isn’t close.

    *drinks the rest of the 8% IPA straight out of the growler*

  61. Munny says:

    Ribs,

    He’s playing wing tonight.

  62. Gerta Rauss says:

    nice penalty kill

    the Hitchmas miracle might be getting a point out of this game

  63. Munny says:

    Gerta Rauss: the Hitchmas miracle might be getting a point out of this game

    Sounds like a high resolution.

  64. Pescador says:

    Ribs:
    This is the most active I’ve seen Spooner play in Oilers silks. He must have read that he needs to play better if he wants out of here any time soon.

    You must have his number mixed up
    he hasn’t been on the ice in the 3rd
    *laughs*
    *crys*

  65. OmJo says:

    So Manning is our designated pest?

  66. Gerta Rauss says:

    man, Brodziak isn’t going to get a better chance than that

  67. Lowetide says:

    Leon scored again.

  68. Pescador says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: *drinks the rest of the 8% IPA straight out of the growler*

    Hahahaha

  69. Munny says:

    Now that was Crosby worthy

  70. OmJo says:

    What a goal!

  71. Gerta Rauss says:

    Leon

    it IS a Hitchmas miracle!

  72. Ribs says:

    Beautiful goal.

  73. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Jets score in 50 seconds?

  74. OmJo says:

    Does Rattie have any points? He’s had a quietly good game offensively if not.

  75. Pescador says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    nice penalty kill

    the Hitchmas miracle might be getting a point out of this game

    The miracle will be if they don’t get scored on in the next 30 seconds

  76. Ribs says:

    If you’ve ever wondered why Puljujarvi hasn’t earned enough trust with his coaches, just watch that center ice pass he delivered to no one from the side boards. Repeat offender.

  77. Munny says:

    Talk about straight-legged…

  78. Gerta Rauss says:

    OmJo:
    Does Rattie have any points? He’s had a quietly good game offensively if not.

    3rd goal is Leon from McD only but yeoman’s work by Rattie on the play

  79. Zelepukin says:

    No one other than McD, Drai or Nuge will ever score again.

  80. Ribs says:

    OmJo:
    Does Rattie have any points? He’s had a quietly good game offensively if not.

    I used to joke that I have never seen Rattie skate back beyond the red line. I think as long as he can keep doing the thing where he skates off the ice right away when it goes back, he’ll be okay. Play to his strengths. I imagine an old school coach like Hitchcock absolutely hates this, haha.

  81. Munny says:

    Fuck me

  82. Gerta Rauss says:

    oh dear

  83. OmJo says:

    Gerta Rauss: 3rd goal is Leon from McD only but yeoman’s work by Rattie on the play

    Pointless so far

  84. Pescador says:

    I knew they would clown us

  85. OmJo says:

    If I see Lucic out there with the pulled goalie…

  86. Zelepukin says:

    OmJo:
    If I see Lucic out there with the pulled goalie…

    He wears an A so by hockey law you have to put him out there.

  87. Munny says:

    Should be seeing two straight minutes of McDavid right about now…

    Any moment now…

  88. Gerta Rauss says:

    OmJo:
    If I see Lucic out there with the pulled goalie…

    lol…thar she blows….!

  89. Munny says:

    Helleva save on Rattie

  90. OmJo says:

    Not giving up an EN goal is a moral victory.

  91. Munny says:

    And then again on Drai. Jesus

  92. Gerta Rauss says:

    holy fuck what a save

  93. OmJo says:

    What a fucking save.

  94. Ribs says:

    How ’bout dat Nuge sauce, doh.

  95. Gerta Rauss says:

    OmJo:
    Not giving up an EN goal is a moral victory.

    I’ll take it

    *edit-fuck me

  96. OmJo says:

    Well, it was not a 5-0 loss so there’s that.

    Edit: I’m tired.

  97. OriginalPouzar says:

    Was able to get the game up an running in the Ethiad Lounge in Abu Dhabi (VPN – Toronto) just in time to see the Jets take the lead. Oh well, sounds like it was an entertaining game.

    I’m looking forward to sitting down to watch the next game – its been over a week since I left the hemisphere.

  98. Munny says:

    Let’s not forget either…

    …This loss is Bendelson’s fault.

  99. Munny says:

    Well Happy New Year to one and all.

    Fuck you, 2018.

    2019… you’re on notice starting now.

  100. Pescador says:

    Manning takes the man but not the stick,
    For the clincher
    Perfect Oiler debut

  101. OmJo says:

    Happy New Year!

  102. tileguy says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Was able to get the game up an running in the Ethiad Lounge in Abu Dhabi (VPN – Toronto) just in time to see the Jets take the lead. Oh well, sounds like it was an entertaining game.

    I’m looking forward to sitting down to watch the next game – its been over a week since I left the hemisphere.

    Did you ever get your luggage back?

  103. OriginalPouzar says:

    DBO:
    Yeah thinking on next year. Assuming one of Sekera or Russell get moved. This is our D Depth

    LD
    KLEFBOM
    NURSE
    JONES
    GRAVEL
    MANNING

    RD
    LARSSON
    BOUCHARD
    RUSSELL/SEKERA
    BENNING
    BEAR or
    PETROVIC

    So at best 5th on each side for our two acquisitions. Wow. Just wow.

    This is a dishonest look at the depth chart in order to place the newly acquired players lower.

    – Gravel isn’t signed next year. Petrovic isn’t’ signed next year either but I would think, if they want, he could be re-signed at any time for cheap (they may not want to with the plethora of right shot prospect D that should be very close to NHL ready for next season).

    – Bear isn’t an NHL player and to put him in front of Petrovic is, in my opinion, no even close to reality.\

    – Benning ahead of Petrovic is highly questionable.

    Petrovic is a d-man that many thought would be a good fit for the Oilers this off-season – he has had a poor year and his fancies this year do not look good but they are the outlier. He is an established solid 3rd pairing d-man over his young career and I think he could do well with a change of local.

  104. OmJo says:

    OmJo:
    Happy New Year!

    Um read this at 12am please and thank you

  105. who says:

    You know someday Nurse may turn into a quality shut down dman. A better skating version of Larrson. Maybe.
    But he will never be a big point producer. He will never be a power play quarterback. He just doesn’t see the ice well enough.
    That play with 15 seconds left is the perfect illustration. He’s on the right point and gets the d to d pass from Jones. He has a wide open McDavid cutting off the left boards, a wide open passing lane, and he is facing right at him. I don’t think he even saw McDavid! Instead he puts a wrister into the crowd in the slot.
    Vision is just as important as puck skills. You either have it or you don’t. And he doesn’t.

  106. OriginalPouzar says:

    tileguy: Was able to get the game up an running in the Ethiad Lounge in Abu Dhabi (VPN – Toronto) just in time to see the Jets take the lead. Oh well, sounds like it was an entertaining game.
    I’m looking forward to sitting down to watch the next game – its been over a week since I left the hemisphere.

    Yes, we did.

    It arrived in Colobmo at 7pm (we were already off on the boat off the southern coast by that time).

    Got news it arrived at the hotel in Weligama Bay (where we sailed from) at 4am.

    Our tour CEO was picked up in a dingy-speed boat around 8am and the luggage arrived to us somewhere in the Indian Ocean around noon.

    Unfortunately, by that point, the wife and I were both so damn sea sick that we literally couldn’t get in to our bags to get our Transderm patches – I literally couldn’t move for about 5 hours without getting ridiculously sick – the wife pucked 6 times in that span.

    Anyways, we eventually got the patches and after a rocky first 36 hours or so, the rest of the trip was AMAZING.

    Thanks for asking.

  107. OriginalPouzar says:

    If anyone is interested in some updates, pictures, etc. about the Sri Lankan sailing adventure, there are a few in this thread:

    https://www.roughingafterthewhistle.com/Thread-The-Travel-Thread-Part-Deux?pid=1064363#pid1064363

  108. BeerMe says:

    That’s a six game losing streak, longest in the league currently.

  109. BeerMe says:

    Glad i missed the game drunk off my ass with friends and family. Happy new years all

  110. OmJo says:

    who,

    I mean Nurse is already what, top 30 in 5v5 D scoring. He’s on pace for 36pts.

  111. Lowetide says:

    Happy New Year everyone! All the best in 2019.

  112. Pescador says:

    Lowetide:
    Happy New Year everyone! All the best in 2019.

    Thank-you Lt.
    Happy new year to you
    Thank you for this blog that I love so much

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tyler Benson scores to give the Condors a 2-1 lead – his first goal in 17 games.

    Patrick Russell with the first goal from Lagesson and Hebig.

    Wells in net stopping 16 on 17 through 2.

  114. who says:

    OmJo:
    who,

    I mean Nurse is already what, top 30 in 5v5 D scoring. He’s on pace for 36pts.

    Classic example of judging the players abilities based on his stats line. I wonder how many of those points are 2nd assists on McDavid or Draisaitl goals that had little to do with the actual goal?
    Did you see the play I’m talking about? Real good offensive players see that lane and player before the puck even comes to them. Nurse just doesn’t.

  115. Zelepukin says:

    OmJo:
    who,

    I mean Nurse is already what, top 30 in 5v5 D scoring. He’s on pace for 36pts.

    but I get what WHO is saying. Nurse doesn’t make naturally offensive decisions. His passing is average at best, which all goes back to seeing the ice. 9 times out of 10 he’ll sit on possession, let every forward option skate their route, then either hope they circle back or fire it off the boards for a tip-in dump.

  116. frjohnk says:

    Anders Nilsson and Mikko Koskinen are the similar size, both played with Islanders and then went and played well in the KHL.
    When they came back to the NHL, they both played for the Oilers.

    Anders Nilsson put up a .925 save % in his first 16 games with the Oilers in 15-16.

    Then he had 8 straight games of sub .900 save %.

    Koskinen put up .929 save % in first his 16 games this year.

    4 straight games of sub .900 save %.

    Interesting numbers to compare.

  117. Jethro Tull says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    If anyone is interested in some updates, pictures, etc. about the Sri Lankan sailing adventure, there are a few in this thread:

    https://www.roughingafterthewhistle.com/Thread-The-Travel-Thread-Part-Deux?pid=1064363#pid1064363

    OP, looks idyllic. The food! The weather! Vicarious vacations are all I can manage at the moment, and yours has scratched an itch! Thank you.

  118. Bank Shot says:

    who: Classic example of judging the players abilities based on his stats line. I wonder how many of those points are 2nd assists on McDavid or Draisaitl goals that had little to do with the actual goal?
    Did you see the play I’m talking about? Real good offensive players see that lane and player before the puck even comes to them.Nurse just doesn’t.

    Nurse is no offensive phenom. He’s racked up 5 points on the PP in 9 games since Klefbom went down though which shows us how important Klefbom is to the PP. Not at all.

    Oilers need a good offensive blueliner. Have for years. McDavid would really thrive with an option back there.

  119. Dicky94 says:

    Didn’t get to watch the game tonight. Seen the highlights. Wingers still can’t score I see , so we better trade for some bottom end d men. Kidding aside… how did the new guys play?

  120. Bank Shot says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    If anyone is interested in some updates, pictures, etc. about the Sri Lankan sailing adventure, there are a few in this thread:

    https://www.roughingafterthewhistle.com/Thread-The-Travel-Thread-Part-Deux?pid=1064363#pid1064363

    Sri Lanka would be an amazing destination. I’ve only been in the airport. hah.

    Did you talk to anyone about the scuba diving there? I’m wondering if its worth it for that.

  121. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Well guys… we are now 5 points out of playoff spot, pulling off a 6 game losing streak with no signs that it will end, our best dman is out from injury for another 4-5 weeks, and Chia (who has proven that he is batshit crazy), is somehow still the GM.
    Let’s face it, we are now looking towards the draft… again…

    Btw, have the oilers even won a game since Klefbom got injured???

    Icing on the cakes:

    – Yamamoto is showing more and more signs of being an injury-prone non-impact player
    – JP, who seems like he’s kinda progressing (if you squint real hard), is invisible in most games
    – the fLames are STILL scoring at will, and looking good doing it {super loogie-style spits}
    – Lucic. ‘nuff said.

  122. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jethro Tull: OP, looks idyllic. The food! The weather! Vicarious vacations are all I can manage at the moment, and yours has scratched an itch! Thank you.

    Always happy to chat about travels – it’s what the wife and I work for and what we splurge on in life.

    Next up Japan for a few weeks in April and then Israel, Egypt and Jordan in October followed by Mexico City for the Christmas trip next season.

    Guess I should do some legal work in between.

    As volatile as things are in Oil Country right now, I’m stoked to get back to watch the next game plus Canada’s next game (and Russia’s as I read Samorukov is beasting when not taking PS infractions).

  123. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yes, we did.

    It arrived in Colobmo at 7pm (we were already off on the boat off the southern coast by that time).

    Got news it arrived at the hotel in Weligama Bay (where we sailed from) at 4am.

    Our tour CEO was picked up in a dingy-speed boat around 8am and the luggage arrived to us somewhere in the Indian Ocean around noon.

    Unfortunately, by that point, the wife and I were both so damn sea sick that we literally couldn’t get in to our bags to get our Transderm patches – I literally couldn’t move for about 5 hours without getting ridiculously sick – the wife pucked 6 times in that span.

    Anyways, we eventually got the patches and after a rocky first 36 hours or so, the rest of the trip was AMAZING.

    Thanks for asking.

    Not sure that sounds like fun. But, I suppose hiking/kayaking and sleeping with beers everywhere isn’t fun for most either but I’ve done plenty of that. Boils down to each is own. I hate flying also. Neat photos.

  124. OriginalPouzar says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    Well guys… we are now 5 points out of playoff spot, pulling off a 6 game losing streak with no signs that it will end, our best dman is out from injury for another 4-5 weeks, and Chia (who has proven that he is batshit crazy), is somehow still the GM.
    Let’s face it, we are now looking towards the draft… again…

    Btw, have the oilers even won a game since Klefbom got injured???

    Icing on the cakes:

    – Yamamoto is showing more and more signs of being an injury-prone non-impact player
    – JP, who seems like he’s kinda progressing (if you squint real hard), is invisible in most games
    – the fLames are STILL scoring at will, and looking good doing it {super loogie-style spits}
    – Lucic.‘nuff said.

    Isn’t Yamamoto a first year pro that was drafted 22nd overall (not a top 10 pick), that should be expected to be back in junior for his draft plus 1 and not really be expected to be In the NHL until his draft plus 3. Most non top picks go back for a year of non-pro and then rhe minors for at least a year.

    Oilers fans are used to management not allowing prospects the normal development timeline and it seems that prospects are underperform.

    Yamamoto would be just fine if he was being given the priveage of a real development time in the minor leagues but it’s not happening.

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    Stanton adds the insurance goal on the PP (Hebig with his second assist) and the Condors win.

  126. Dicky94 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    That’s a big win without a few of their regulars.

  127. drglen says:

    Listened to first on radio, watched the 2nd, missed the 3rd ( playing) .. It looked to be a very spirited game and the oilers battled hard and showed pretty well. I think we had the 2nd best goalie on the night. What I saw of Rattie… he belongs on the top line.

    But that is six losses in a row is it not. In spite of everything and the best of intentions, you can go ahead and fire the GM now. That could happen as early as tomorrow morning.

  128. drglen says:

    Zelepukin: He wears an A so by hockey law you have to put him out there.

    nice one.

  129. Rube Foster says:

    I was at the game tonight.

    Thankfully it was an entertaining affair, though it did get a bit sluggish during the second. Highly recommend the tenderloin sandwich with extra pickles and horseradish sauce served at the visitors end of the rink. Cans of Canadian were “on sale” so that was nice too.

    That was Lucic’s Best game in some time, unfortunately he still produced squat. For every good play he made, and to his credit he made a few tonight, he had a number of noticeable muffs and whiffs. Nuge and Jesse are a bad fit for Looch, they play the game too fast for him. I remain curious as to why he gets top six minutes with Nuge. It appears that 2019 will be the year of “What Shall We Do with Lucic?”.

    The better team won tonight. Period.

    Happy New Years to LT and the misfits that frequent this wonderful place he created and curates, all the best in 2019!

  130. drglen says:

    Yes Happy new year to all. May it bring positive changes and experiences and new friendships. Thanks LT for this space, the best hockey blog anywhere and credit to you all who keep it informative and good spirited. You all have been a profound help to me these last 2 months, most of which spent assisting my dearest one in Palliative care. I am grateful to all.

  131. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    frjohnk,

    Does this mean we get 2016 Talbot back now?

  132. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    Happy 2019 to this blog. I find my biases and ignorance always productively checked when reading here, so many commentators with such deep and analytical persectives and LT who has managed the impossible of managing an open space that mostly defies the general awful tendencies of internet forums.

    Ive been working in Italy since August, for the most part without my wife who doubles as my #1 Oiler Buddy, so its been an especially needed space for me to make sense of this most senseless of teams. I also really love the Lowedown, which is the best Oiler broadcast since John Short’s show.

    Luckliy my wife is with me over the holidays and we did the sensible thing and didnt watch the Jets beat the Oilers last night. Think I might not watch for a while or at least until I am back in North America when we have tickets to Oilers at Philly Feb 2. I look forward to seeing Connor skate and Gritty do whatever Gritty does. Other than that should be a horrible game.

  133. HT Joe says:

    Happy New Year everyone!!

    Thank you Lowetide for maintaining this amazing community. Wishing you and yours an amazing 2019!!

  134. godot10 says:

    innercitysmytty:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    I agree with the on-ice results for Hall being just as good prior to being traded and am in the pro Hall camp. But I also think he had less perceived value to many/all other GMs prior to the move and that may be what the post was getting at in terms of value ie trade value.

    Because the Oiler brass were bad-mouthing Hall through the media, and blaming him for the Oilers losing.

    Some people keep bringing up that BS about Hall not listening to the coaches. Hall did exactly what Eakins told him to do. Dellow wrote an article about it, about how Hall’s advanced and regular stats got appreciably worse because he changed his game to play the way Eakins and MacT wanted him to. That article game out at the same time MacT was bragging to Stauffer about how they had “fixed” Hall’s game.

    And then we all know about the BS training methods Eakins was espousing, or as Hall put it, was contrary to every training expert had ever recommended to him.

  135. godot10 says:

    DBO:
    Yeah thinking on next year. Assuming one of Sekera or Russell get moved. This is our D Depth

    LD
    KLEFBOM
    NURSE
    JONES
    GRAVEL
    MANNING

    RD
    LARSSON
    BOUCHARD
    RUSSELL/SEKERA
    BENNING
    BEAR or
    PETROVIC

    So at best 5th on each side for our two acquisitions. Wow. Just wow.

    Bouchard is three years away from being a 2nd pairing right D. This season junior. Next season, AHL, Following season, 3rd pair NHL, 3rd year, 2nd pairing NHL. Petrovic is probably close to Russell in ability.

  136. godot10 says:

    who: Classic example of judging the players abilities based on his stats line. I wonder how many of those points are 2nd assists on McDavid or Draisaitl goals that had little to do with the actual goal?
    Did you see the play I’m talking about? Real good offensive players see that lane and player before the puck even comes to them.Nurse just doesn’t.

    Correlation does not equal causation. But the power play is scoring goals with Nurse on the point rather than Klefbom.

    Nurse has spent almost all of his NHL career playing too high up in the roster for his experience, or playing with a mediocre to bad D partner or playing too many minutes.

    Blaming Nurse for the sins…the holes…in the roster.

  137. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Whew, bit of a trek, lots of horn honks still reverberating in my brain, but finally at the Beijing airport. Will be flying in about 2 hours.

    I havent’t checked in, in a couple days and have jumped right in to posting this comment, so Happy New Year everyone!!!!!. So…..whats new?

  138. hags9k says:

    Fire the waterslides. Fire the roller coaster. Fire the pirate ship. Firethemall.

  139. €√¥£€^$ says:

    OmJo:
    If the Oilers end up losing McDavid, I’m done with this team and the league.

    And if Chiarelli is GM come next season, I’m boycotting the team until he’s fired.

    Neither matters to the bottom line.

    Happy New Year everybody!

    Holy Hell, this is the first comment!!!????

    What the HELL did I miss?

  140. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Lowetide: I think there’s a really great point here. Everyone was open to the idea of getting better and everyone knew defense and goaltending needed to be improved when Chiarelli arrived. The shock comes because so much was sent away and so little got done. If PC was your home builder, you’d be in year four and living in the basement because the walls still aren’t up and the wind blows through the house frame day and night. GM’s lose bets all the time, but Chiarelli has allowed himself to be the last (or one of the last) to do things based on ‘gut feel’ and he’s getting killed.

    So what if he “steps down” as GM and promotes Keith Gretzky, but continues on as POH, has this been discussed anywhere? This might be the only way he can conceivably save himself, no?

  141. €√¥£€^$ says:

    adamjames2:
    Like most I’m trying to figure out what the hell exactly is going on with the Manning acquisition. In no way am I trying to deflect blame off of Chiarelli because honestly his track record is ridiculous.

    But where are the pro scouts? Shouldn’t they be able to talk a guy out of trading for an expensive, poor player?

    And if we assume chiarelli made this call on his own, doesn’t it put to bed the whole idea that Pete DOESN’T have the latitude and final say to make any and all roster decisions? Scarier yet is if he doesn’t. If there are others in the org who reviewed and approved the move.. Well then the whole damn thing is rotten anyway and Chia is just the face of the failure.

    I get the sense that this is a set-up for a bigger move with Jones apparently eating Darnell’s lunch, maybe he is part of deal along with Talbot + to grab a RHD (Pesce, perhaps?) Why else (other than he is a moron) would he stock-up on experienced NHL dmen?

  142. €√¥£€^$ says:

    €√¥£€^$,

    I think I am now up to speed, lol.

  143. Professor Q says:

    godot10: Because the Oiler brass were bad-mouthing Hall through the media, and blaming him for the Oilers losing.

    Some people keep bringing up that BS about Hall not listening to the coaches.Hall did exactly what Eakins told him to do.Dellow wrote an article about it, about how Hall’s advanced and regular stats got appreciably worse because he changed his game to play the way Eakins and MacT wanted him to.That article game out at the same time MacT was bragging to Stauffer about how they had “fixed” Hall’s game.

    And then we all know about the BS training methods Eakins was espousing, or as Hall put it, was contrary to every training expert had ever recommended to him.

    While some of this is true, there have to be other reasons the Eastern Media and even Team Canada kept looking him over for well-deserved awards and roster spots.

    Say, Bob Nicholson is part of the Oilers now…this may be more a very bad thing than a good thing.

  144. Professor Q says:

    BeerMe:
    That’s a six game losing streak, longest in the league currently.

    The Leafs also had one of those earlier on.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    Whew, bit of a trek, lots of horn honks still reverberating in my brain, but finally at the Beijing airport.Will be flying in about 2 hours.

    I havent’t checked in, in a couple days and have jumped right in to posting this comment, so Happy New Year everyone!!!!!.So…..whats new?

    I think I made the mistake of sleeping for 3 hours on the flight from Sri Lanka to UAE. I am now on the 14 hour flight to Toronto, full on business class pod on Ethiad and can’t sleep a wink (even though I’m exhausted as our first flight left at 445am and we left the hotel at midnight).

    It’s the middle of the day my time (3pm) but the middle of the night back home so I should try my best to sleep but it’s not working.

    It’s not actually the time that’s the issue but my brain as every time I close my eyes I go in to overdrive about how I’m going to get all my shit done when I get home (food prep and groceries and clothes washed). I’m have the full next day to do it all as I’m not heading in to the office but I know I can’t wait until the next day and i’ll Be prepping food at 11pm right after a 36 hour travel day and a 12.5 hour time change.

    Of course, i’ll Be waiting for the gym to open at 5pm on Jan 2 – that’s non-negotiable and, if it wasn’t a holiday and it being its normal 25 hours, I’d be there at 245 am as usual to get back to my required routine.

  146. 106 and 106 says:

    Pete has gotta read this blog.

    “I believe we have the horses.” -Peter Chiarelli

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/oilers-gm-talks-recent-moves-teams-arent-help/

    Last few moments of this interview is the quote.

  147. LMHF#1 says:

    106 and 106:
    Pete has gotta read this blog.

    “I believe we have the horses.” -Peter Chiarelli

    https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/oilers-gm-talks-recent-moves-teams-arent-help/

    Last few moments of this interview is the quote.

    The “trades are hard” garbage again?

    We’ve heard that before. A firing came not long after…

  148. Lowetide says:

    For The Athletic: No. 9 Prospect Winter 2018: Joel Persson

    https://theathletic.com/740063/2019/01/01/oilers-no-9-prospect-winter-2018-joel-persson/

  149. who says:

    godot10: Correlation does not equal causation.But the power play is scoring goals with Nurse on the point rather than Klefbom.

    Nurse has spent almost all of his NHL career playing too high up in the roster for his experience, or playing with a mediocre to bad D partner or playing too many minutes.

    Blaming Nurse for the sins…the holes…in the roster.

    I’m not blaming Nurse for any sins, or this loss. Just making an observation.

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