Decade, Volume 4

Back when this blog began, and even before, in the old hippie hfboards days, we’d sit around and drink our beer and complain about how hard it was to acquire difference makers. We all agreed, and it wasn’t just the beer talking, that the key was acquiring an impact talent, one of the 10 (or so) best players in the game. Add in some strong NHL veterans and a healthy system, and music! In 2010, Edmonton drafted an impact player, the best player on the roster since Doug Weight got traded a decade before. The years that have passed hammer home an important additional point, one we knew as hippies, but thought so easy to do, it need not be listed as a priority: Along with that impact player, an NHL team needs to have NHL average or above average talent across the roster. It is in this area, the ‘great young talent with below average help in too many places’, Oilers fans have dwelled in these years.

THE ATHLETIC!

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  • New Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s collection of prospect defencemen gives the team options now, in the future and in trade talks
  • New Jonathan Willis: With Mikko Koskinen and Cam Talbot bound for free agency, what is the Oilers goaltending plan?
  • New Lowetide: What could the Oilers acquire in a Jesse Puljujarvi trade?
  • New Jonathan Willis: The Edmonton Oilers are one good summer away from being competitive.
  • New Daniel Nugent Bowman: Why Joseph Gambardella’s first NHL call-up really hit home.
  • Pierre Lebrun: LeBrun Notebook: Chiarelli under pressure to deliver in Edmonton.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Peter Chiarelli’s reasoning for acquiring Brandon Manning doesn’t add up
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 9 prospect Winter 2018: Joel Persson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers acquire Brandon Manning in a Sunday shocker, and this ought to be interesting.
  • Lowetide: Oilers acquire Alexander Petrovic from Panthers, flushing Chris Wideman and a 2019 third-round pick in the trade.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 8 prospect Winter 2018: Kirill Maksimov.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 7 prospect Winter 2018: Caleb Jones
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 6 Prospect winter 2018: Cooper Marody
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 5 Prospect winter 2018: Ethan Bear.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 4 Prospect winter 2018: Ryan McLeod.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 3 Prospect winter 2018: Tyler Benson.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 2 Prospect winter 2018: Kailer Yamamoto.
  • Lowetide: Oilers No. 1 Prospect winter 2018: Evan Bouchard.

OILERS FORWARDS 2007-08

These are the primary forwards in that season, as you can see there is no Connor McDavid, no Taylor Hall, ya no hay estrellas . There are four full time forwards (Horcoff, Hemsky, Nilsson and Cogliano) over 2.00/60 5-on-5 scoring, with Gagner and Brodziak not far behind. This 2007-08 Oilers team boasted 10 forwards with 10+ goals and three (Hemsky, Penner, Horcoff) scored over 20. This group scored 1.74 5-on-5 goals per game.

There are too many young players, but the balance on the roster is actually impressive. Behind the kids (Gagner, Cogliano, Nilsson) is a strong two-way line (Stoll) and veterans like Pisani and Reasoner to show the way. Glencross was an inspired pickup. MacT sure could play that rock and roll at even strength, although, as you see here, four of his top nine forwards were under 1.50/60 scoring.

OILERS FORWARDS 2018-19

McDavid and Draisaitl tower over anyone from the 2007-08 group and the club has three men (Nuge, Chiasson and Khaira) over 1.75. The Oilers have the top end, but don’t have the depth displayed 11 years ago (and remember, that team missed the playoffs while finishing with 88 points).

I think there are going to be two keys to summer among forwards: Edmonton needs another skilled veteran, preferably a scoring winger, to add to the group. Also, the team badly needs one of Puljujarvi or Yamamoto to turn into an NHL player worthy of trust.

MAXIME COMTOIS

I grew up Jehovah’s Witness. We were taught a lot of things that kind of screwed me up (the world was going to end in 1972, and 1975, for instance), but it was drilled into my young brain “all of us are created equal”. I can recall many times my parents reaching out to help those in our community who had less than we did, calling it ‘being Christian’ and providing me with a wonderful moral compass.

Come to find, in the real world, it is easier to let things slide. When I was about 22, I worked at a job that included a person who was horrible racist. This was in a city (not Edmonton) that contained a large first nations population.

One day, this individual was in a room with me and about five other people, and he was being especially horrible. There had been a stabbing at the mall. One of us, one of us, stood up to it. His name was Dave, and he stood alone, the moment passing uncomfortably. After it passed, Dave looked me in the eye and said “shame on you.”

It was a horrible, valuable lesson and a reminder of my own past and principles. I walk the walk now, have for years and have passed along the lessons of my parents to my own children. I understand that you can’t let even one of these moments pass without speaking up.

We are all equal. Race, creed, color, gender, sexual orientation, the entire rainbow of possibilities. Equal. And now, today, that involves everyone, including me, maybe especially me because I am a white male, to stand up and say enough. To say “shame on you” and to remind or inform those who have decided it’s okay to say horrible and hurtful things out loud in front of all of us, thereby implicating some and intimidating others. No. Not today, not ever. We are better for having each other.

The last time Edmonton had this kind of quality across the positional spectrum was probably late 1990’s or 2000 with Claude Julien as coach. We don’t know the names of future NHLers playing in Bakersfield now, but we do know the increase in potential Oilers year over year is impressive. Tyler Benson, Cam Hebig, Dylan Wells, Cooper Marody and others are playing feature roles out of the box, and perhaps that’s the greatest gift Woodcroft provided these kids and the organization.

I believe the following players from this year’s team have a chance to play in the NHL as regulars: Jesse Puljujarvi, Kailer Yamamoto, Caleb Jones (already there), Ethan Bear, Dylan Wells, Cooper Marody, Cam Hebig, Tyler Benson, Joe Gambardella, William Lagesson, Stuart Skinner. That’s 11.

The 1999-00 Hamilton Bulldogs produced Dan Cleary, Dan Lacouture, Jason Chimera, Brad Norton, Alex Henry. That’s five. I expect this current Condors group might produce more. That’s outstanding production.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

It’s Friday! Looking forward to the weekend and WJ’s, along with two Oilers games this weekend. Starting at 10, TSN1260:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. World Juniors and what happened to Canada, plus Oilers road trip and the All-Star game.
  • Andrew Peard, Oil Kings PBP. Edmonton’s junior team is grabbing points in every game recently and moving to the top of the division.
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. We’ll chat NFL playoffs, Oilers playoff chances.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Ben says:

    Every time we talk about summer moves and bringing in skill the terrifying question follows: who will be making these moves?

    Because something like JP for James Neal seems verrrrrry much par for the PC course.

    We’ve heard that PC doesn’t have carte blanch to make bigger deals. Great–but does that mean that our failed confederacy of forgotten-but-not-gone former GMs is holding the trigger?

    As the famed diplomat C3PO said, “Oh, I can’t bear to watch.”

  2. Jethro Tull says:

    Great post LT.

    I believe that people have to be given the chance to learn and change. The smart ones among us take that chance.

  3. Lowetide says:

    Ben:
    Every time we talk about summer moves and bringing in skill the terrifying question follows: who will be making these moves?

    Because something like JP for James Neal seems verrrrrry much par for the PC course.

    We’ve heard that PC doesn’t have carte blanch to make bigger deals. Great–but does that mean that our failed confederacy of forgotten-but-not-gone former GMs is holding the trigger?

    As the famed diplomat C3PO said, “Oh, I can’t bear to watch.”

    Lol. I think the playoffs can save Chiarelli’s job. We’ll see.

  4. Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR says:

    I know it will never happen, but could Hitchcock maybe bench Lucic for a game or 2. It’s really the only thing that hasn’t been attempted yet with him. It happens all the time with young players so they can see the game from a different perspective, and usually helps. I’m not hoping for a ton of points from him, but just to get him back to contributing something. Wouldn’t this road-trip be a good time to do it? There wouldn’t be a million microphones in his face like there would be at home. It might light a fire under a few other guys to see a proud guy like him him benched.

  5. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Excellent post LT.

    Wisdom for all of us.

  6. tileguy says:

    Have we tried to go back to the original September plan of,
    Nuge, Connor, Rattie.
    Rieder, Drai, Puljujarvi (feel free to substitute Chiason)
    Identity line
    Misfits
    With Yamo definitely playing in the A.

  7. northerndancer says:

    Great post LT. I think Dave would approve! I thank you. And pause to reflect. For what that is worth.

  8. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Western Conference Playoff Standings using Points Percentage expressed as points over/under fake Bettman .500

    Central
    WPG 13
    NSH 9
    DAL 5

    Pacific
    CGY 12
    SJS 9
    VGK 9

    Wildcard
    COL 5
    ANA 4

    Out of Playoffs
    MIN 2
    EDM 1
    VAN 0
    STL -2
    ARI -4
    CHI -6
    LAK -7

    Pacific MIN/COL/DAL games tonight:

    WSH at DAL: (DAL -115, WSH lost last night in STL)
    NYR at COL: (COL -200)
    NJD at ARI: (ARI -120)
    VGK at ANA: (VGK -130)

  9. digger50 says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
    I know it will never happen, but could Hitchcock maybe bench Lucic for a game or 2.It’s really the only thing that hasn’t been attempted yet with him.It happens all the time with young players so they can see the game from a different perspective, and usually helps.I’m not hoping for a ton of points from him, but just to get him back to contributing something.Wouldn’t this road-trip be a good time to do it?There wouldn’t be a million microphones in his face like there would be at home.It might light a fire under a few other guys to see a proud guy like him him benched.

    I don’t think that would be a good idea. It comes off as punitive and further diminishes confidence.

    Lucic is still a well liked leader on the team despite his on ice play. They are fragile, they need leadership on and off ice. He’s still a big part.

    The benching could backfire and you now have a disgruntled leader and the team starts to fracture.

    If framed differently, I agree that Looch may benefit from resting or watching from above. The coach faces a Slippery slope in my opinion.

  10. McSorley33 says:

    Thank you LT.

    I don’t think people truly appreciate what they are watching in
    Lucic, Brodziak and Kassian.

    That is a special, special line – producing special numbers.
    ( yes, Kassian is getting a bump here lately)

    Milan Lucic has dressed for all 40 games this year.

  11. Cahoon says:

    Lt, the story about racism has me thinking about one of my own:

    I don’t know what makes some people’s tipping points different than others but I was serving a Christmas banquet for an indigenous group and every time we got into the back these two girls would complain back and forth about ‘them’. At first I politely said I found things to be the opposite of what these girls were saying but that didn’t deter them from complaining over and over. Finally I had enough and said no more, you can be racist buttholes all you want when I’m not around but not another word around me. Pretty much every other coworker came up to me afterwards to thank me for standing up to them. Maybe it is because I am a tall strong white Male that it wasn’t too hard for me to stand up to them. I do wish it would happen more. I worked in an industry that is full of racists and often I just didn’t have the energy to argue over their comments. Shame on me for that.

  12. smellyglove says:

    Ben:
    Every time we talk about summer moves and bringing in skill the terrifying question follows: who will be making these moves?

    Because something like JP for James Neal seems verrrrrry much par for the PC course.

    We’ve heard that PC doesn’t have carte blanch to make bigger deals. Great–but does that mean that our failed confederacy of forgotten-but-not-gone former GMs is holding the trigger?

    As the famed diplomat C3PO said, “Oh, I can’t bear to watch.”

    If GM Chia can’t GM then the question I have to ask is,”why is he a GM?”

    If Katz and Nicholson don’t trust him why is Chia on payroll and then who really is pulling the strings? That’s why I don’t necessarily but that Chia is hand cuffed

    Another big query: pointing to Woodguys’s post about $13 mill in dead cap space next year. Lucic et al. and buyouts. How does LT community clear cap space in 2019?

  13. drglen says:

    Good post sir…

    Are people upset about team canada? That’s just dumb and .. and if some racial ethnic stuff is attached to that,.. that’s beyond dumb.

    My father passed away this week, .. went by the old outdoor rink, still there in Malmo. Guy still tending the ice, guys still playing shinny, .. he taught me to skate there, coached us as kids, and most of the games, well a good half anyways, in those days were still on outdoor ice. Somehow your words about equality, the junior hockey thing, reminded me of the basic, I’m going to say universal joy, of skating on outdoor ice. Come down to Jackie Parker Park in millwoods and check it out… very much the same. Outdoor pond, improptu multi-racial-age shinny spontaneously emerging ( not supposed to but one finds the back side of the space and happily endured)…

    You have hopes for Yamo. I hope he can get healthy and find some game on this trip.

    The table showing the supporting cast scoring now vs that era, is very telling. I do think PC is actually doing a decent job of correcting this via draft and develop, and you need look no further than LVGKN.. to see what an ‘all above average’ team ( with a hot goalie) can do. Combination of good luck and absolutely MISTAKE FREE expense management can make this happen.

  14. Oilman99 says:

    tileguy,

    Let’s hope that’s what happens, get Yamamoto back to the AHL before he gets killed ,he needs the the time to learn to play against bigger,stronger men,and get quicker and stronger this summer.

  15. Oilman99 says:

    McSorley33,

    Yes,zero’s are special,special numbers.

  16. McNuge93 says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR:
    I know it will never happen, but could Hitchcock maybe bench Lucic for a game or 2.It’s really the only thing that hasn’t been attempted yet with him.It happens all the time with young players so they can see the game from a different perspective, and usually helps.I’m not hoping for a ton of points from him, but just to get him back to contributing something.Wouldn’t this road-trip be a good time to do it?There wouldn’t be a million microphones in his face like there would be at home.It might light a fire under a few other guys to see a proud guy like him him benched.

    This could backfire though. With Looch it isn’t an attitude problem or lack of effort. His skills have deteriorated and probably lack of confidence. I think it could potentially have a negative effect on the team. Also it would just amplify the attention on Looch.

  17. Mannificent says:

    You do the occasional dig about being brought up as a JW, which I Usually ignore – but I have to say ,this time, that it seems you weren’t paying much attention – because we JW’s follow Bible teachings, which says “no one knows the day or the hour” (Mark 13:32). It is human nature to speculate but that is all it is.
    Secondly, it is not the end of the world that is prophesied – but I won’t dig into that – as that would take much more time/ writing.
    I hope this does not be offend you but I hate to see misinformation spread around.
    You mention the wonderful moral compass you were taught – I think that is something to be thankful for, from your upbringing. Imagine how your life may have turned out, if you didn’t get that – it could have gone very bad, you never know.

  18. Lowetide says:

    drglen:
    Good post sir…

    Are people upset about team canada? That’s just dumb and .. and if some racial ethnic stuff is attached to that,.. that’s beyond dumb.

    My father passed away this week,.. went by the old outdoor rink, still there in Malmo.Guy still tending the ice, guys still playing shinny, .. he taught me to skate there, coached us as kids, and most of the games, well a good half anyways, in those days were still on outdoor ice.Somehow your words about equality, the junior hockey thing, reminded me of the basic, I’m going to say universal joy, of skating on outdoor ice. Come down to Jackie Parker Park in millwoods and check it out… very much the same. Outdoor pond, improptu multi-racial-age shinny spontaneously emerging ( not supposed to but one finds the back side of the space and happily endured)…

    You have hopes for Yamo.I hope he can get healthy and find some game on this trip.

    The table showing the supporting cast scoring now vs that era, is very telling.I do think PC is actually doing a decent job of correcting this via draft and develop, and you need look no further than LVGKN.. to see what an ‘all above average’ team ( with a hot goalie) can do. Combination of good luck and absolutely MISTAKE FREE expense management can make this happen.

    Sorry for your loss, we only get one Dad and losing them is painful. I think about my Dad every day, it’s been 26+ years since he’s gone. It gets easier, but it doesn’t get better.

  19. Jordan says:

    Dear Hockey Santa,

    Would you please send me a Mark Stone and a Matt Duchene for the trade deadline this year?

    I know you probably have to send something horriblly good back to Ottawa for those players, but would you please make sure to leave us enough to make a play for the Cup this year?

    It would be really nice to see this team with some scoring depth.

    We’ve given up a lot in Karma and in actual NHL talent since the McDavid draft win.

    Would you please give us a gift back after this bloodletting and aweful scoring depth?

  20. McNuge93 says:

    I saw Tim and Sid yesterday and Tim was reading some of the comments directed at Comtois (twitter maybe) It was absolutely awful. Faceless people saying stuff like that to a kid who gave a 100% playing for Canada. Sid was really cranked up about it, rightfully so. I do think/hope it is a very small minority of people that think this way but hate the way they have such a forum to voice this kind of stuff.

  21. 719 says:

    We are all equal. Race, creed, color, gender, sexual orientation, the entire rainbow of possibilities. Equal. And now, today, that involves everyone, including me, maybe especially me because I am a white male, to stand up and say enough. To say “shame on you” and to remind or inform those who have decided it’s okay to say horrible and hurtful things out loud in front of all of us, thereby implicating some and intimidating others. No. Not today, not ever. We are better for having each other.

    Brought a tear to my eye, no lie. LT For Prime Minister!

  22. JimmyV1965 says:

    Great post LT. Racism is unacceptable.

  23. Lowetide says:

    Mannificent:
    You do the occasional dig about being brought up as a JW, which I Usually ignore – but I have to say ,this time, that it seems you weren’t paying much attention – because we JW’s follow Bible teachings, which says “no one knows the day or the hour” (Mark 13:32).It is human nature to speculate but that is all it is.
    Secondly, it is not the end of the world that is prophesied – but I won’t dig into that – as that would take much more time/ writing.
    I hope this does not be offend you but I hate to see misinformation spread around.
    You mention the wonderful moral compass you were taught – I think that is something to be thankful for, from your upbringing.Imagine how your life may have turned out, if you didn’t get that – it could have gone very bad, you never know.

    Thanks so much for reaching out, I appreciate it. I can only tell you my experience, which included “make do until 1972” and “stay alive until 1975” and I heard those words from places like the platform at the Pacific Coliseum in Vancouver as a young person.

    As for not paying attention, I most certainly did, as children often do. I could go on about “the new system of things” but from my point of view the “Truth” taught me by Jehovah’s Witnesses robbed me of some of my childhood, so in some ways I do wish I had been paying less attention.

    I mentioned my parents TO SHOW what kind of upbringing I received. Your witness in this post seems defensive, I wish it was not so and hope we can continue a conversation. I have no wish to negatively represent Jehovah’s Witnesses, and encourage you to give me examples of this you’ve seen in this blog in the past.

  24. godot10 says:

    smellyglove: If GM Chia can’t GM then the question I have to ask is,”why is he a GM?”

    If Katz and Nicholson don’t trust him why is Chia on payroll and then who really is pulling the strings? That’s why I don’t necessarily but that Chia is hand cuffed

    Another big query: pointing to Woodguys’s postabout $13 mill in dead cap space next year. Lucic et al. and buyouts. How does LT community clear cap space in 2019?

    GM’s operate to a plan, approved by their boss, so their boss doesn’t wake up one morning and find Connor McDavid traded.

    It is the GM’s plan. When the GM wants to do something outside of his plan, he needs to propose a new plan for approval.

    If I’m that boss/owner, I want to know who the current untradeable core is. That would be a required part of any plan. If the GM subsequently wants to trade one of them, he better propose a new plan first.

    As a boss, I don’t want my GM freelancing, but operating according to his plan.

  25. Paulie says:

    McNuge93: This could backfire though. With Looch it isn’t an attitude problem or lack of effort. His skills have deteriorated and probably lack of confidence. I think it could potentially have a negative effect on the team. Also it would just amplify the attention on Looch.

    I think he has to sit. His presence in the lineup makes it harder for the team to win. He can’t make plays anymore. What kind of message does it send to the rest of the team to keep a player in the lineup who doesn’t deserve to be there? This is a results oriented game and Lucic doesn’t produce positive results anymore. The organization from GM to HCs seem to be more invested in getting him going again and sparing his feelings than in trying to ice the best team everynight. Inexcusable IMO.

  26. godot10 says:

    Jordan:
    Dear Hockey Santa,

    Would you please send me a Mark Stone and a Matt Duchene for the trade deadline this year?

    I know you probably have to send something horriblly good back to Ottawa for those players, but would you please make sure to leave us enough to make a play for the Cup this year?

    It would be really nice to see this team with some scoring depth.

    We’ve given up a lot in Karma and in actual NHL talent since the McDavid draft win.

    Would you please give us a gift back after this bloodletting and aweful scoring depth?

    It is basically impossible for the Oilers to have the cap room to add Stone or Duschene at the deadline.

    For any cap team where an expensive player is coming back from LTIR in season usually has no cap space to add significant pieces at the deadline. Sekera would have to be gone for the season.

  27. drglen says:

    Lowetide,

    Thanks man.

  28. geowal says:

    If someone truly believed player(s) played with no effort/did not care/commit, then fine – could happen, call out said player(s). It’s probably happened at some point in the past, on a few different countries teams. But it’s ridiculous to think that applies to any in this year’s edition, that much was obvious when you saw their faces after they lost.

    Layering the francophone thing is just absurd. Guys have all backgrounds are capable of dogging it.

    If you want someone to blame, blame cyclicity first of all, then lick, and then to a lesser Tim Hunter and the mgmt.

  29. who says:

    smellyglove: If GM Chia can’t GM then the question I have to ask is,”why is he a GM?”

    If Katz and Nicholson don’t trust him why is Chia on payroll and then who really is pulling the strings? That’s why I don’t necessarily but that Chia is hand cuffed

    Another big query: pointing to Woodguys’s postabout $13 mill in dead cap space next year. Lucic et al. and buyouts. How does LT community clear cap space in 2019?

    I think most of the cap space to be cleared out between now and next season will come from the blue line and back.
    Willis has a good article about the depth coming on defense and how some of that will likely influence trades beginning now. I agree with him that Benning will likely be the first to go. That’s 1.9 million off the cap.
    Sekera likely gets traded or bought out this summer depending on how he looks when he gets back. That could be an additional 5.5 million off the cap.
    Posters are speculating on a Russell trade in the summer but I don’t see it happening unless they keep Sekera. Right now next years depth chart for RD looks like this:
    Larsson, Russell, Jones, Bouchard/Perrsson/Bear
    Unless Jones knocks it out of the park this year I don’t see both Sekera AND Russell getting traded. And even if he does I think they keep one of the veterans for insurance.
    Talbot will not be resigned. That’s another 4.1 million off the cap.
    Those are the easy moves to free up some cap space. Some of that space will get eaten up by Koskinens new contract, say 3 to 4 million, but our goaltending tandem should be cheaper next year.
    The real savings come the year after when Spooner comes off and you trade Russell. Maybe they even buy out Lucic at that point.
    This timeline also coincides with some of our prospects establishing themselves as cheap NHL’ers.
    That is why I’m looking at 20-21 as the year the Oilers become perennial contenders. Trying to speed this process up will only result in further delays and bigger cap problems. That should be the take home lesson from the Chia era!

  30. JimmyV1965 says:

    Wonder if we could trade Benning for Burakovsky? Gives them some dmen depth, saves them about $1 mill. AB only has 5 goals and 8 pts in 35 games, which ain’t great for the Caps but makes him a top six option here.

  31. Professor Q says:

    godot10: It is basically impossible for the Oilers to have the cap room to add Stone or Duschene at the deadline.

    For any cap team where an expensive player is coming back from LTIRin season usually has no cap space to add significant pieces at the deadline.Sekera would have to be gone for the season.

    Jordan’s proposal included Lucic and Nurse as the big outgoing contracts (plus Yamamoto and essentially 4 1sts if conditions were all met). So quite a bit of money going out.

    The Manning acquisition added a bit too much minor money, though, which makes things trickier.

  32. Professor Q says:

    geowal:
    If someone truly believed player(s) played with no effort/did not care/commit, then fine – could happen, call out said player(s). It’s probably happened at some point in the past, on a few different countries teams. But it’s ridiculous to think that applies to any in this year’s edition, that much was obvious when you saw their faces after they lost.

    Layering the francophone thing is just absurd. Guys have all backgrounds are capable of dogging it.

    If you want someone to blame, blame cyclicity first of all, then lick, and then to a lesser Tim Hunter and the mgmt.

    It really is unfortunate, but xenophobia has been in hockey and sports (competition! Rivalries!) since their beginning.

    Only one way to try to get it out and get to the fun aspect of competition, and blaming kids (even if professional) and bullying them is not helpful to that cause.

    I believe we need to and can be better, and I believe Lowetide is a shining example from whom we can all learn.

  33. dustrock says:

    WheatNOil had a fantastic twitter thread on the Comtois posts and social media difficulties in general. He’s a psychologist so he knows this stuff inside and out.

    Couple of key points:

    (1) We’ve never had anything like social media in human history, and we’re figuring it out as we go along;

    (2) Telling teens to simply “stay off social media” is counter-productive;

    (3) Teens do not process things emotionally in a balanced way usually until around age 25 (which explains my years 16-24) and so what seems like “not a big deal” to an adult, who can just “shrug it off”, simply does not help.

    I’ll also add, if someone wonders why people post such horrible hurtful things on social media, I believe the troll’s brain gets a tiny little hit of dopamine for the negative posts.

    Brain wants more dopamine so more negative posts, and troll starts feeling better.

  34. Rube Foster says:

    LT,
    Beautiful Post today Good Sir. Thank you for your wisdom and leadership. It takes some fortitude to stand up for what is right. I thank you for reminding us all to be just and courageous when the time calls.

    DRGLEN,
    Your Dad sounds like a wonderful Man. I am terribly sorry for your loss. I have noticed that you’ve been posting a lot around here lately and I’ve been enjoying your contributions. I hope that you’ve been able to find some comfort in this crazy and wonderful place that Allan has created for us all. Thanks to you and your Dad, I’m going to dust off my skates and hit my local outdoor rink sometime later on this week. You are so right, there really is something special about the ODR! Thanks for the inspiration.

  35. Mannificent says:

    Lowetide,

    I certainly didn’t want to sound defensive, just wanted to correct some misinformation.
    Don’t want to belabor this, as this site is about sports, which I enjoy reading – but being 1st time I have addressed this, I will give you some background.
    I am slightly older than you (I think) and have also been brought up a JW. I remember those years, you mentioned, and speculation was high because of a chronological factor – but it was human speculation and was wrong. That is human nature, not our teaching, as per scripture.
    Strange, but I have never been envious or regret not following common holiday/birthday celebrations.
    I love knowing the truth. I know people use these celebrations to get together with family and have a joyous occasion, which is great. But JW’s don’t sit around doing nothing – on mandated days off, we also have friends and family that get together. We just don’t follow ritual of putting up trees, lights etc – I am thankful for that.

  36. JimmyV1965 says:

    who: I think most of the cap space to be cleared out between now and next season will come from the blue line and back.
    Willis has a good article about the depth coming on defense and how some of that will likely influence trades beginning now. I agree with him that Benning will likely be the first to go. That’s 1.9 million off the cap.
    Sekera likely gets traded or bought out this summer depending on how he looks when he gets back. That could be an additional 5.5 million off the cap.
    Posters are speculating on a Russell trade in the summer but I don’t see it happening unless they keep Sekera. Right now next years depth chart for RD looks like this:
    Larsson, Russell, Jones, Bouchard/Perrsson/Bear
    Unless Jones knocks it out of the park this year I don’t see both Sekera AND Russell getting traded. And even if he does I think they keep one of the veterans for insurance.
    Talbot will not be resigned. That’s another 4.1 million off the cap.
    Those are the easy moves to free up some cap space. Some of that space will get eaten up by Koskinens new contract, say 3 to 4 million, but our goaltending tandem should be cheaper next year.
    The real savings come the year after when Spooner comes off and you trade Russell. Maybe they even buy out Lucic at that point.
    This timeline also coincides with some of our prospects establishing themselves as cheap NHL’ers.
    That is why I’m looking at 20-21 as the year the Oilers become perennial contenders. Trying to speed this process up will only result in further delays and bigger cap problems. That should be the take home lesson from the Chia era!

    I think we have to make a trade full stop and we need a new GM to do it. Chia failed miserably to address the holes on defence. His big trades have gutted the team, not because they were big trades, but he failed miserably in the execution of said big trades.

    If we take the patient route like you suggest, we aren’t a perennial contender in 20-21, we are a playoff contender. We have to stop wishing and hoping rookies like JP and Yamma will come in and add significant offence. IMO this team needs at least two rock-solid duos that are a lock to score. This requires trading for at least one legit top six forward.

    When that happens, you can add prospects or whoever as the third wheel to the duos. Doing this gives the kids a better chance of being successful. We are not relying on them to provide offence. I really really don’t want to start the next season hoping and praying that an unproven kid will provide significant offence.

  37. Jordan says:

    Professor Q: Jordan’s proposal included Lucic and Nurse as the big outgoing contracts (plus Yamamoto and essentially 4 1sts if conditions were all met). So quite a bit of money going out.

    The Manning acquisition added a bit too much minor money, though, which makes things trickier.

    Thanks Professor – appreciate you stepping in for me.

    The Oilers could increase the $$$ value of what’s being included in this deal by switching Jesse for Kialer and potentially including Benning instead of Manning, if he’d be more desirable to Ottawa.

    I’d also included a lot of conditions and potentially additional draft picks if either the Oilers or Senators sign either player in the off-season.

    Ottawa’s financial situation is not good, so Lucic’s contract may have value if they are going to be a cap floor team.

    I think there’s a deal to be made here.

  38. McSorley33 says:

    Sorry about your Dad DRGLEN

  39. Brantford Boy says:

    drglen,

    Condolences friend…

  40. Lowetide says:

    Mannificent:
    Lowetide,

    I certainly didn’t want to sound defensive, just wanted to correct some misinformation.
    Don’t want to belabor this, as this site is about sports, which I enjoy reading – but being 1st time I have addressed this, I will give you some background.
    I am slightly older than you (I think) and have also been brought up a JW.I remember those years, you mentioned, and speculation was high because of a chronological factor – but it was human speculation and was wrong. That is human nature, not our teaching, as per scripture.
    Strange, but I have never been envious or regret not following common holiday/birthday celebrations.
    I love knowing the truth.I know people use these celebrations to get together with family and have a joyous occasion, which is great.But JW’s don’t sit around doing nothing – on mandated days off, we also have friends and family that get together.We just don’t follow ritual of putting up trees, lights etc – I am thankful for that.

    All good. I loved my parents very much and wouldn’t trade them or my experiences for the world. I believe that is reflected in my writing, and part of that is how I was raised for sure. All the best.

  41. Brantford Boy says:

    LT: Also, the team badly needs one of Puljujarvi or Yamamoto to turn into an NHL player worthy of trust.

    I think you were trying to make a point here, but I believe it was missed… easily fixed with “right fucking schnell” added to the end of the sentence.

  42. Munny says:

    I will stand up for the right of those who wish to express hateful things to do so. It is THE fundamental human right.

    But their words will be called out as hateful when their words are, as has been done here.

    (And all of us here on earth being equal means, in my belief, that we are all equally subject to humour which pokes fun at the idiosyncracies of groups. )

    JMHO.

    Good post, Dustrock, and we should keep in mind that many of those offending twits will have been from Teens themselves. (And many not).

  43. Yeti says:

    Oh crap. You know you’re getting old when the adverts on Lowetide shift from ‘Hot Russian Girls’ to ‘Over 40s Soulmates’. By the time the Oilers win a Stanley I’ll be onto retirees dating.

  44. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Jordan:
    Dear Hockey Santa,

    Would you please send me a Mark Stone and a Matt Duchene for the trade deadline this year?

    I know you probably have to send something horriblly good back to Ottawa for those players, but would you please make sure to leave us enough to make a play for the Cup this year?

    It would be really nice to see this team with some scoring depth.

    We’ve given up a lot in Karma and in actual NHL talent since the McDavid draft win.

    Would you please give us a gift back after this bloodletting and aweful scoring depth?

    I have played around with Cap Friendly quite a bit for my own amusement for 2 yrs or so. I post to see if I can “nail” a transaction. I am something like 0 for 150, haven’t come close once. Unfortunately it has illustrated to me how terrible the Cap sitch in E-Town is, as well how personally some people take this stuff. I have a strong aversion to a-holes and ignorance and it plays out often in Cap Friendly.

    Earlier in the year I looked at acquiring Stone and Duschesne as well. I loathe the thought of offloading 1st & 2nd rounders, but I think the benefits would far outweigh the negatives for the first 3 years.

    As far as Lucic goes, he would have to end up back in Boston, likely in a 3-way deal, where perhaps the Hossa contract come to Edmonton & Edmonton retaining a bit of slary and then Arizona retaining some to get his contract down to the $3.5-4 million range for Boston. In the meantime he is clearly done here, he needs to spend some time in the pressbox, but for certain he needs a change of scenery.

    I also think Spooner needs to spend a few games in the top 6 and Rieder needs to be in the bottom 6. Chiasson should play on the 3rd.line to see if he can inject some scoring in the bottom 6.

    I am thinking:

    29-97-44
    23-93-98
    45-16-39
    22-28-8

  45. Munny says:

    drglen,

    Condolences, Glen.

    I’ve hung with some Malmo boys in days of yore, we may have met IRL. Hope you are doing okay.

  46. Drew says:

    the old numbers are interesting…

    Seems to suggest that the Horcoff guy was a player!

  47. Drew says:

    Yeti:
    Oh crap. You know you’re getting old when the adverts on Lowetide shift from ‘Hot Russian Girls’ to ‘Over 40s Soulmates’. By the time the Oilers win a Stanley I’ll be onto retirees dating.

    Oh frig, i get metamusil adds

  48. The Trade Guy says:

    Great post LT. I enjoy how you share the watershed moments in your life, and allow them to make you a better person.

    I had a similar experience to yours only I was 11 years old and still remember a First Nations girl admonishing us about a game we were playing that she found hurtful.

    I’ve always made a point of not tolerating intolerance and its costed me “friends” and even changed relationships in family, but hatred thrives when good people say nothing.

  49. €√¥£€^$ says:

    My condolences drglen

  50. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Nice post LT to remind us all that tolerance is something everyone needs to embrace for society to largely get there.

    We all have our opinions of who is tradeable or not, I find myself regularly disappointed around the key trade periods yearly in seeing deals made by other GMs, improving their teams and restructuring rosters.

    Chiarelli does not seem to be good at making deals or having a sensible path forward. I think that any player that is making some sort of contribution at the NHL can be moved under the right circumstances.

    Sadly many of those moves are incoming to the Oilers it seems. The Oilers need to find a deal maker. They have enough defensive depth in the leftorium to clear 9.5M in cap in Sekera and Russell this summer.

    Just as the Oilers decided that because they were losing they needed to goon up n Manning and Petrovic, there are other owners and GMs around sharing this sentiment. Lucic is not producing and also not getting killed 5v5 and is still a feared fighter and team leader type.

    For a young team like the Canucks for example he could be a big help policing and setting tone, not that he’d go there. There are other teams, and after this season if the Oilers retained say 2M the aquiring team would be on the hook for 2.75M in cash per season, not a deal breaker IMO.

    They could also take a contract back to buy out that is more reasonable to buy out. I see a lack of creativity in the management team, and a seeming misguided view of what type of player can help. I get why Hitch is into size, but as PC himself said they have to be able to play and he’s having trouble nailing that part down.

    Edit: 2.75 M per season average. A lower mid level salary.

  51. 106 and 106 says:

    Best blog ever.

  52. LadiesloveSmid says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    Chiarelli needs to sell the Elias Pettersson injuries as needing a Lucic-type to Benning!

  53. pts2pndr says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Great post LT. Racism is unacceptable.

    Correct and LT phrased it eloquently! Basic human rights: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all people regardless of race,color,creed, gender or sexual orientation. First rule of humanity do no harm to others!

  54. Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR says:

    McNuge93: This could backfire though. With Looch it isn’t an attitude problem or lack of effort. His skills have deteriorated and probably lack of confidence. I think it could potentially have a negative effect on the team. Also it would just amplify the attention on Looch.

    Looch is playing about 4th line minutes when they are all healthy. If it was Rattie or Spooner producing his results, they’d both be in the pressbox. I like Lucic, and I know he’s trying his best, but they can’t keep gifting him a spot in the line-up because he’s expensive. Any team that is trying to generate more scoring should have no hesitation sitting a guy who has 2 goals in 82 games. At least try something different. It would definitely send a ripple through the room though, and that might not be a bad thing.

  55. Westchester Oil says:

    Thank you for your post LT. I appreciate your combination of rational thoughts and humanity.

  56. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    drglen,

    – All the best. I’m not sure if you have children but the cycle of life from having a dad to being a dad and a son gives a virtuous harmony to life.

    – There have been a number of posters in here who have mourned their Fathers and of course our captain LT shares some beautiful stories about his Dad

    – Your mention of your Dads passing made me reflect on Dad if that makes sense in a positive way

  57. Leroy Draisdale says:

    Condolences drglen, Just passed the 20 year mark for my dad in October. Like LT with his dad, I still think of him and miss him daily.

  58. Professor Q says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    Chiarelli needs to sell the Elias Pettersson injuries as needing a Lucic-type to Benning!

    I think that’s why they have Gudbranson, unfortunately.

  59. McSorley33 says:

    Imagine how slow Milan will be next year…..

    I will be curious to find out – after PC is fired this summer – if the stories/rumours are true there
    was some sort of a deal to move Lucic this past summer.

  60. who says:

    JimmyV1965: I think we have to make a trade full stop and we need a new GM to do it. Chia failed miserably to address the holes on defence. His big trades have gutted the team, not because they were big trades, but he failed miserably in the execution of said big trades.

    If we take the patient route like you suggest, we aren’t a perennial contender in 20-21, we are a playoff contender. We have to stop wishing and hoping rookies like JP and Yamma will come in and add significant offence. IMO this team needs at least two rock-solid duos that are a lock to score. This requires trading for at least one legit top six forward.

    When that happens, you can add prospects or whoever as the third wheel to the duos. Doing this gives the kids a better chance of being successful.We are not relying on them to provide offence. I really really don’t want to start the next season hoping and praying that an unproven kid will provide significant offence.

    See, the minute you say we have to make a trade I get nervous.
    I don’t think we HAVE to do anything. If a trade presents itself, that makes sense in the long term, then yeah, go for it.
    But this whole mindset, that we have to do something right now, is what got Chia into this mess. It’s also the mindset that just got us Brandon Manning, and his 2.25 million contract.
    I do agree with you that Chia should not be the one making these decisions.

  61. Professor Q says:

    McSorley33:
    Imagine how slow Milan will be next year…..

    I will be curious to find out – after PC is fired this summer – if the stories/rumours are true there
    was some sort of a deal to move Lucic this past summer.

    I’d rather fire him now. Mid-season. Don’t give him a chance to scrape back for another year by chance of players clicking. Retool after that.

  62. v4ance says:

    My assessment is that the Oilers won’t be able to contend until 2020-21. The team has too many underperforming contracts that are untradeable. The prospects bubbling under won’t be contributors until 2020 as well.

    When Chiarelli inherited the team it had enough forwards for two #1 lines & meh, 3 middling NHL defencemen, $20 million in cap room and only Ference’s buyout on the books.

    After three years at the helm, he now has one #1 line & then meh, 5 NHL defencemen (when they all aren’t injured) no cap room, 2 buyouts currently on the cap and 4 or 5 contracts that are buyout candidates.

    Even if we fired Chiarelli today, there would be no quick fixes for his cap management disaster. We are still in playoff contention but a realistic outlook should show that we are not close to being contenders. At best, we are one round and done. The only real fix for this mess is time. The team just has to swallow the poison pill contracts and let them expire while we carry them as deadweight on the roster for the next few years.

    Chiarelli’s impatience to hasten the rebuild led to the decisions to trade for Larsson and Reinhart and set the team further back as he plied error upon error. I said in September that Chiarelli was the opposite george of the guy who traded a paperclip up to a house, whereas Chiarelli is trading his way from a 40 goal scorer to a bag of pucks and a buyout of Spooner…or worse.

    With all that stated, we shouldn’t be looking to pick up rentals because that would be a waste of assets that we will need when we will actually be good. So as much as the idea of Stone and Duchene are attractive, we are in no position to acquire them.

  63. dustrock says:

    Professor Q: I’d rather fire him now. Mid-season. Don’t give him a chance to scrape back for another year by chance of players clicking. Retool after that.

    Do you keep the same draft team, or this is a Stalin-era Purge, all heads must roll?

  64. Scungilli Slushy says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    Chiarelli needs to sell the Elias Pettersson injuries as needing a Lucic-type to Benning!

    That’s the idea! Maybe send his nephew along as the sweetener.

  65. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Sorry to hear Dr Glen

  66. doctoreye says:

    Well said Lowetide. God Bless Dr Glen.

  67. GwitchinKris says:

    Long time reader and fan of this blog. First time commenting. Mahsi cho for using your voice and platform.

    I think the forecast in Edmonton is calling for rain until 2020-21. Then those El Nino’s from Calgary will move North.

  68. meanashell11 says:

    LT, thank for this today. I now live in the US and was not really aware of how bad it was getting about the loss. Your comments reminded me of an event in my past I am not particularly proud of.

    First some background.

    I have four kids who are now all young adults. Their entire life my wife and I taught them tolerance and equality. We taught them to stand up for themselves and for others who could not stand up for themselves. I thought we did a good job.

    Back in 2008 when the layoffs in banking were non-stop, after one particular bloodletting, colleagues and ex-colleagues all got together for drinks at the end of the day. We had worked together for some time and I would have believed we knew each other well. One of the team was a visible minority and was a relatively senior person. Another of the team who joined late had obviously been drinking long before the rest started arrived and immediately started making very racist comments to the first colleague. No one said a word, the party just immediately broke up and I headed home. I arrived and was in tears, nearly 50 years old and in tears. My wife asked what had happened. I told her I had let my friend down, let my colleagues down, and let my family down when I said nothing to the racist. Maybe it was the events of the day. But I was horrified with my inaction.

    The next day I reached out to my friend who had been the target and apologized. And that day I made myself and my kids a promise never again. Trust me, in the current environment in the US I have many opportunities to speak up. Never again willI I stand silent.

    Here is a little something I sent to my kids when the were young.

    “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    Martin Neimoller

  69. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilman99:
    tileguy,

    Let’s hope that’s what happens, get Yamamoto back to the AHL before he gets killed ,he needs the the timeto learn to play against bigger,stronger men,and get quicker and stronger this summer.

    The AHL is a league full of big and strong men just like the NHL is – in fact, the AHL likely has the less talented more goonish types that are trying to make names for themselves.

  70. silasbengtsson says:

    Professor Q: I’d rather fire him now. Mid-season. Don’t give him a chance to scrape back for another year by chance of players clicking. Retool after that.

    What I can’t fathom is how it’s even a discussion for Katz anymore assuming the “playoffs or bust” ultimatum is true. That in itself is a tacit admission that his future plan isn’t worth another year out of the playoffs so why wait? Give the new GM the remainder of the year to evaluate and you’re a half year closer to being back into the playoffs.

  71. €√¥£€^$ says:

    meanashell11:
    LT, thank for this today. I now live in the US and was not really aware of how bad it was getting about the loss. Your comments reminded me of an event in my past I am not particularly proud of.

    First some background.

    I have four kids who are now all young adults. Their entire life my wife and I taught them tolerance and equality. We taught them to stand up for themselves and for others who could not stand up for themselves. I thought we did a good job.

    Back in 2008 when the layoffs in banking were non-stop, after one particular bloodletting, colleagues and ex-colleagues all got together for drinks at the end of the day. We had worked together for some time and I would have believed we knew each other well. One of the team was a visible minority and was a relatively senior person. Another of the team who joined late had obviously been drinking long before the rest started arrived and immediately started making very racist comments to the first colleague. No one said a word, the party just immediately broke up and I headed home. I arrived and was in tears, nearly 50 years old and in tears. My wife asked what had happened. I told her I had let my friend down, let my colleagues down, and let my family down when I said nothing to the racist. Maybe it was the events of the day. But I was horrified with my inaction.

    The next day I reached out to my friend who had been the target and apologized. And that day I made myself and my kids a promise never again. Trust me, in the current environment in the US I have many opportunities to speak up. Never again willI I stand silent.

    Here is a little something I sent to my kids when the were young.

    “First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    Martin Neimoller

    Thank you for your post!

  72. €√¥£€^$ says:

    OriginalPouzar: The AHL is a league full of big and strong men just like the NHL is – in fact, the AHL likely has the less talented more goonish types that are trying to make names for themselves.

    The differnce is the speed of the game, injuries can strike at anytime to anyone, but Kailer just spend the season in the Bake. I don’t think he is at the level yet where he needs to be to make a difference in the NHL.

    Different position, etc, but one year of pro experience a great summer of training made a world of differnce for Caleb Jones.

  73. Revolved says:

    ‘Come to find, in the real world, it is easier to let things slide.’

    Thank you. Poetry. Do the right thing.

  74. Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR says:

    who: See, the minute you say we have to make a trade I get nervous.
    I don’t think we HAVE to do anything. If a trade presents itself, that makes sense in the long term,then yeah,go for it.
    But this whole mindset, that we have to do something right now, is what got Chia into this mess. It’s also the mindset that just got us Brandon Manning,and his 2.25 million contract.
    I do agree with you that Chia should not be the one making these decisions.

    This is precisely the reason Chia needs to go ASAP as possible!! Trades are presenting themselves every day to Chia. Every GM in the league knows he is desperate, and they all have problems they’d like to offload on the Oilers. And he’s not thinking long term anymore, he’s just thinking about not getting fired. For instance, he’s probably gonna move a D-man shortly. Other teams will likely offer him magic beans for Benning, and he’ll be having a press conference talking about how the magic beans “aren’t sexy!” We need someone whose not under so much pressure to be handling the assets we have.

  75. €√¥£€^$ says:

    silasbengtsson: What I can’t fathom is how it’s even a discussion for Katz anymore assuming the “playoffs or bust” ultimatum is true. That in itself is a tacit admission that his future plan isn’t worth another year out of the playoffs so why wait? Give the new GM the remainder of the year to evaluate and you’re a half year closer to being back into the playoffs.

    Has anyone seen/heard anything resembling “the plan”? I think the plan was to see the youngins (Yamo, JP) and Rattie to sprinkle offense throughout the line-up, plus a healthy K-bomb and a more experienced Darnell were going to give the Big 3 the reinforcements needed to supplement their talent.

    The plan ain’t working. Lucic is an actual statue.

    I say PB Looch, sign the Gretzky statue, put him on Connor’s wing and see if hands of bronze > hands of stone.

  76. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    dustrock,

    WheatNOil had a fantastic twitter thread on the Comtois posts and social media difficulties in general. He’s a psychologist so he knows this stuff inside and out.

    Wheat’s thread was fantastic, here’s a link: (make sure to read them all) https://twitter.com/WheatNOil/status/1080899960789438469

    Not to be too pedantic but Wheat is a MD and Psychiatrist, not a Psychologist (which are usually MA or PhD in Psychology and not Medical Doctors)

  77. Pescador says:

    McSorley33:
    Imagine how slow Milan will be next year…..

    I will be curious to find out – after PC is fired this summer – if the stories/rumours are true there
    was some sort of a deal to move Lucic this past summer.

    The sweetener that will be required to rid ourselves of the Lucic contract is getting more expensive with every game that he plays in.
    I’m not convinced that it’s even possible to trade him. NMC notwithstanding
    If Lucic is not dealt this summer, we will have the answer.
    Then what?
    We will arrive at a place where it hurts the team too much to have him on the ice.
    We might be past that already

  78. €√¥£€^$ says:

    BTW jet lag is an asshole.

  79. Professor Q says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    BTW jet lag is an asshole.

    I much prefer Jet Li.

  80. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR: This is precisely the reason Chia needs to go ASAP as possible!!Trades are presenting themselves every day to Chia.Every GM in the league knows he is desperate, and they all have problems they’d like to offload on the Oilers.And he’s not thinking long term anymore, he’s just thinking about not getting fired.For instance, he’s probably gonna move a D-man shortly.Other teams will likely offer him magic beans for Benning, and he’ll be having a press conference talking about how the magic beans “aren’t sexy!”We need someone whose not under so much pressure to be handling the assets we have.

    I asked the question a few days ago, what are the chances Chia stays on as POHO and gives the reins to KG?

  81. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Professor Q: I much prefer Jet Li.

    Have you seen him lately? He looks really old… How about Jet Woo?

  82. who says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR: This is precisely the reason Chia needs to go ASAP as possible!!Trades are presenting themselves every day to Chia.Every GM in the league knows he is desperate, and they all have problems they’d like to offload on the Oilers.And he’s not thinking long term anymore, he’s just thinking about not getting fired.For instance, he’s probably gonna move a D-man shortly.Other teams will likely offer him magic beans for Benning, and he’ll be having a press conference talking about how the magic beans “aren’t sexy!”We need someone whose not under so much pressure to be handling the assets we have.

    Depending on what you consider “magic beans”, I would argue that is all Benning is worth. Given his contract and performance to date.
    For instance, I suggested the Oilers would gladly take a 2nd round pick for him. I doubt anyone is offering it though.

  83. jdrevenge1 says:

    I wonder alot, about whether or not the internet elevated all the sh**ty people out there or if they already existed and the internet has become the great equalizer, with respect to presenting a platform that didn’t previously exist.

    Caught the politician from Quebec’s remarks and was saddened to see people were actually pinning a missed shootout opportunity on him being french.

    I’m originally from Alberta, lived in Montreal for around 4 years and the amount of remarks I’d hear when explaining I lived in Montreal from people in the West was pretty shocking. It’s honestly the best city I’ve ever lived in. Everybody should go there.

  84. Primetime says:

    Jordan:

    Ottawa’s financial situation is not good, so Lucic’s contract may have value if they are going to be a cap floor team.

    Hey Jordan,

    Not to nitpick, but just pointing out yet another booby trap in this horrid Lucic contract. Typically, cap floor teams are ones that don’t have (or want to spend) the physical cash on their team. They are looking for contracts with big CAP numbers but with much lower actual payouts. That is not really the case for the entirety of Lucic’s contract, as the actual dollars paid is close to the cap hit, thus making him unattractive to the cap floor crowd.

    The other part that I’m much less certain of, is the fact that a large portion of the Lucic contract is in signing bonuses. Teams have often traded for a contract of an injured player (Horton, Savard, Hossa) as they can use the cap hit to get to the floor, but the actual cash is paid by an insurance policy that travels with the player. I may be wrong, but don’t believe the signing bonuses are covered by insurance, as that has nothing to do with their current inability to play. It was guaranteed to them from the start of the contract. Therefore, even if Lucic was injured or physically unable to complete the contract (due to his chronic condition), the signing bonus will have to be paid out from the team, not insurance. Yet another disincentive for an acquiring team.

    It really is a horrible contract.

  85. tileguy says:

    OriginalPouzar: The AHL is a league full of big and strong men just like the NHL is – in fact, the AHL likely has the less talented more goonish types that are trying to make names for themselves.

    Yes I agree with that assessment, what would you do with Yamo? The A is where he belongs as he hurts the big team.

  86. €√¥£€^$ says:

    €√¥£€^$: Have you seen him lately?He looks really old…How about Jet Woo?

    I should revise my comment, he is not much older than I am and shocked fans thiz summer due to his appearance in a photo with a fan. He looked shockingly old and frail. He has hyperthyroidism and it negatively affected his health.

    One of my favourite movies is Fearless.

  87. Munny says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Thank you for the link.

  88. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    What does pediatrics have to do with psychology?

    Okay, it not jet lag, I am aparently drunk…..

  89. Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR says:

    who: Depending on what you consider “magic beans”, I would argue that is all Benning is worth. Given his contract and performance to date.
    For instance, I suggested the Oilers would gladly take a 2nd round pick for him.I doubt anyone is offering it though.

    The magic beans I’m thinking of is more like another 3rd pair LHD who is “meaner” than Benning.

  90. JimmyV1965 says:

    who: See, the minute you say we have to make a trade I get nervous.
    I don’t think we HAVE to do anything. If a trade presents itself, that makes sense in the long term,then yeah,go for it.
    But this whole mindset, that we have to do something right now, is what got Chia into this mess. It’s also the mindset that just got us Brandon Manning,and his 2.25 million contract.
    I do agree with you that Chia should not be the one making these decisions.

    One of the memes that annoys me is this notion that the Oil can’t make a good trade because everyone knows we need a dmen, or now a winger, and other GMs will only throw us an anchor. This is just an excuse for making bad trades IMO. I believe we need to make a trade. That should never be an excuse for making a bad trade. Of course you should never accept a bad trade because it’s the only one you have been offered. Everyone knew we needed a dman back in 2015, but it’s inconceivable that Reinhart for a 16th and 33rd was the only deal out there. It was simply a bad trade. There are 30 other teams out there with different needs and cap issues. A good GM should always be able to fill a need with a well reasoned trade. Finding a good GM is probably the biggest challenge, not making a good trade.

  91. Professor Q says:

    €√¥£€^$: I should revise my comment, he is not much older than I am and shocked fans thiz summer due to his appearance in a photo with a fan.He looked shockingly old and frail.He has hyperthyroidism and it negatively affected his health.

    One of my favourite movies is Fearless.

    Interesting. I haven’t seen Fearless yet. I really liked Unleashed when my brother introduced me to it.

    Ken Watanabe and Tony Jaa are my favourites, too, and Jackie Chan was still great in The Foreigner. Neat, yet depressing, story, tying Vietnam, Southeast Asia politics and war, with Irish conflicts. With family drama on both sides.

    I think the shaved head and glasses make him seem older, too.

  92. Derek says:

    Yeti:
    Oh crap. You know you’re getting old when the adverts on Lowetide shift from ‘Hot Russian Girls’ to ‘Over 40s Soulmates’. By the time the Oilers win a Stanley I’ll be onto retirees dating.

    It’s really quite mind boggling.

    When I started my LT journey I was one of the aforementioned 15-24 year olds(ish) who’s lizard brain was far too active in my day to day decision making. I’m almost certain that reading Alan trying to decipher what was reasonable, or balanced, or objective when discussing this team often enough was what jump started my brain into adult mode.

    Now I can barely keep my eyes open past 9:30.

    Thanks for making me old LT.

  93. Pescador says:

    €√¥£€^$: Have you seen him lately?He looks really old…How about Jet Woo?

    I’m not a fan of the Jets

  94. who says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR: The magic beans I’m thinking of is more like another 3rd pair LHD who is “meaner” than Benning.

    Manning isn’t magic beans. We know what he is. He is an overpaid bottom pairing dman.

  95. New Improved Darkness says:

    After eighth grade in racially monochromatic Red Deer, I arrived the next year at a school on the west coast with mostly the same racial monoculture, but also about 15% enrollment from nearby native populations. My off-colour exposure in Red Deer, and Calgary before that, was mainly to a few Newfie jokes, and the surprising cultural discovery that Polish people are buried upside down to provision inexpensive bicycle racks. (While I didn’t believe this for a second, I distrusted pierogis for a long time afterwards.)

    Things here on the west coast were suddenly in a different league, because now the “chugs” were among us, and neither on a distant coast, nor (mostly) on a distance continent. I had never been exposed to alcohol culture (except for picking up truly shocking quantities of beer cans from some garage on every second street in the annual Cub Scout can drive) so for the first week I wondered if “chug” had something to do with the last spike. I quietly pondered all the ineluctable coolie deaths inherent in threading giant timber trellises through solid granite, and the larger arc of the national narrative, wherein I had also learned the John A. was habitually three sheets to the wind, though the implied liability of this—in the character of a national figure—was left entirely unexplained; I had by then already puzzled out that John A. was somehow the human embodiment of the Manitoba muskeg, but that still didn’t explain much. Turns out, “chug” had more to do with the first pike, rather than the last spike. I had my Burton asp backwards.

    The next thing I noticed is that all the native kids had thick skins, and mainly kept to themselves. For every last one—at least in my year, so far as I could see—school was an ordeal, not an opportunity.

    I also mainly kept to myself, where possible, having been indifferently socialized from a young age (what’s bred in the bone admits only partial escape …). It’s not an easy age to speak up for anyone else, when you can’t even speak up for yourself (on second thought, perhaps I had that formulation ass backwards, too).

    Another shock that year was mandatory French instruction: that precise moment when it sinks in that you’re no longer safely ensconced in Red Rose country, Smeagol.

    Maybe I would have taken to this less resentfully had my teacher introduced me to any French thing worth knowing in my first week, such as the indispensable l’espirit de l’escalier. I was too young for a sleeping dictionary, but I was not too young for Voltaire, Rabelais, or Belloc—why do adults always hide the good stuff?—anyway, it should be plain why my classmates instinctively kept me far, far away from curriculum reform.

    Asked once why he wrote so much, he responded, “Because my children are howling for pearls and caviar.”

    Belloc observed that “The first job of letters is to get a canon,” that is, to identify those works a writer sees as exemplary of the best of prose and verse.

    For his own prose style, he claimed to aspire to be as clear and concise as “Mary had a little lamb.”

    This sentiment was evident in Belloc’s childrens’ stories:

    His widely sold Cautionary Tales for Children included “Jim, who ran away from his nurse, and was eaten by a lion” and “Matilda, who told lies and was burnt to death”.

    Those stories would have been superb, even in my nascent, pidgin French—and better still, they were originally penned in English, so the crib was easy to find. One story he missed telling, though: “Alain, who said nothing, and grew up to host a very popular blog”.

    Obviously, I differ from Belloc: there’s something about Mary I can’t get with.

    Another thing they don’t tell you is that even l’espirit de l’escalier takes decades to perfect. Thinking of any suitable retort, at any point in your future life, is a definite step up.

    No, what we have here is the eerie absence of l’espirit de l’orean and the irrepressible Michael J.

    Charmed with a pair of time-tunnel gull wings—suitably retrofitted with underarm, window-winder Dassault Mirage hard mounts and a Voltairean roof-rack rail-gun of Panglossian pique—how might I beak my former classmates now, then?

    I sure wouldn’t be explaining matters in terms of “window-winder Dassault Mirage hard mounts”.

    Mais, non: when you’re getting sore, you don’t want the message to soar right over their tiny little heads—it needs to sink in well and truly before their eleventy-first birthday.

    [*] Perhaps l’espirit d’h muzzy Proudfeet eventually apprehends the arid extra dry admonishment, but that’s an egg, not a chicken. Not all Hobbits claim kinship with the Warmbottom clan; old Ginny Warmbottom was sharp as a tack—when sufficiently kettled in her Nestlé—and that’s a fact.

    And so we begin: Mary—and presumably Joe—had a little lamb, and its fleece was altogether unlike snow.

    Michael J. Me to Smug Chug-Mugging Bandybreath: “So, did your parents teach you to behave like that, or did you just make it up as you went along? Because I’m sure getting the impression from your behaviour that your parents are card-carrying members of the Asshole Underground. Is that the impression you’re tying to create? Because if it is, keep up the good work, you’re doing great.”

    Perhaps on first impression the Asshole Underground sounds furtive and elite, but the truth is that it’s a lot like the black market: you soon perceive that it’s here, there, and everywhere—from the very instant you cotton on.

    As early as 1648, in a pamphlet titled Mercurius Elencticus, mocking the English parliament, the royalist soldier and poet Sir George Wharton used ‘cotton’, or as it was spelled then ‘cotten’, as a verb meaning ‘to make friendly advances’.

    The problem with the DeLorean scenario is that it doesn’t actually turn you into a charming Fox.

    Mais, non: I’d arrive on the cusp of puberty (coincident, not incidentally, with the original robot-proxy Star Wars) and not yet a single Wookiee hair to call my own, but instead as my old, spindly, sun-avoidant self—having gained from the DeLorean passage all of one meager, diabolically unhinged tongue—now fully lubricated with ancient French umbrage.

    I can taste the blood already. It would mostly be my own—flowing mainly through clenched teeth—teeth clenched involuntarily on a formerly wagging muscle.

    Not to mention more than a few bicycle-tire atomic wedgies, after excavating my own shallow grave with instantaneous puck-on-a-lethal-string Datsyukian moxie.

    But at least I’d find myself face down in the dirt, yukking privately to myself.

    “It’s down there somewhere. Let me take another look.”

    One thing I didn’t know then: sometimes dirt mixed with blood tastes good.

    Small edit: l’espirit de quick sandwich.

  96. Professor Q says:

    So, in The Athletic interview with players about their numbers and the reasonings behind them, Larsson (was given 5 in New Jersey, but it was taken in Edmonton so went for the closest in 6) and Khaira mentioned how they used to wear 7 (Khaira also grew up wearing 11, and would like to honour his dad by wearing it).

    Now, Khaira seemed to have more levity in his response, talking about 7 and 11 were worn by some great players, but Larsson seemed a bit indifferent.

    He would stick with 5, 6, and 7, “wherever he ends up”.

    Does he feel as though he might be leaving Edmonton sometime soon, and thus could finally go back to wearing 7? Preparing himself for the possibility by separating emotion? Or is he just like that?

    Just worried me, is all.

  97. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Professor Q: Interesting.I haven’t seen Fearless yet. I really liked Unleashed when my brother introduced me to it.

    Ken Watanabe and Tony Jaa are my favourites, too, and Jackie Chan was still great in The Foreigner. Neat, yet depressing, story, tying Vietnam, Southeast Asia politics and war, with Irish conflicts. With family drama on both sides.

    I think the shaved head and glasses make him seem older, too.

    Thanks for mentioning “The Foreigner” I noticed it on Netflix, but didn’t give a 2nd thought as some of his more recent work has not impressed me. I will be sure to put it on “The List”.

    I recognize the names, but of the other 2 actors what movies do you recommend (top 3)?

    While in Hong Kong on Christmas eve day we went to the Hong Kong Heritage Museum to view the Bruce Lee exhibit, it didn’t occur to me until we’d been there for a few hours that there might be something like that. The website said it was open a hour later on holidays and weekends and normally closed @ 5:00. We got there at 4:30 and it was closed. The museum let employees go home an hour early that day, so it was quite disappointing. Had we known we would’ve taken a cab rather than walked for.much of the way across the city. I have read that the family has endorsed a new biopic, the one starring Jason Scott Lee (which I mostly liked), was actually done without the familie’s consent.

  98. JimmyV1965 says:

    Cape Breton Oilers 4EVR: This is precisely the reason Chia needs to go ASAP as possible!!Trades are presenting themselves every day to Chia.Every GM in the league knows he is desperate, and they all have problems they’d like to offload on the Oilers.And he’s not thinking long term anymore, he’s just thinking about not getting fired.For instance, he’s probably gonna move a D-man shortly.Other teams will likely offer him magic beans for Benning, and he’ll be having a press conference talking about how the magic beans “aren’t sexy!”We need someone whose not under so much pressure to be handling the assets we have.

    Totally agree. I wouldn’t get too excited about the return on Benning though. It’s likely a 3rd or a failed prospect.

  99. JimmyV1965 says:

    Pescador: The sweetener that will be required to rid ourselves of the Lucic contract is getting more expensive with every game that he plays in.
    I’m not convinced that it’s even possible to trade him. NMC notwithstanding
    If Lucic is not dealt this summer, we will have the answer.
    Then what?
    We will arrive at a place where it hurts the team too much to have him on the ice.
    We might be past that already

    I don’t think Lucic can be on the active roster next year. A fourth season with that kind of production cannot be good for team morale. Maybe the answer is telling him not to return, sucking it up and making him a permanent healthy scratch. Let his agent try to broker a deal.

  100. Woogie63 says:

    Our 3C is one of the many reasons we are not getting secondary scoring.

    We had Strome – he was a lower end 3C, higher end 4C that could kill penalties, and not cause too many issues in his 13 minutes of hockey.

    We have Brodziak – That can forecheck and kill penalities but is no threat to score, not much happens in his 10 minutes a night, and I sure would not move him to 14 minutes a night.

    We have played Spooner and Khaira at 3C, both are better on the wing imo.

    Is it the right time to slot Gamberdella or Marody in as our 3.5C? They would not hurt us there and would arguably grow from that role. We double shift McDavid and Hopkins so often what would it hurt.

    Calgary did this last year with Janowski and he has taken off this year.

  101. Slocanoil says:

    drglen,

    Sorry about your dad. I also grew up in malmo, right across the alley from the rink. Born in 65, we probably know each other.

  102. Side says:

    Professor Q:
    So, in The Athletic interview with players about their numbers and the reasonings behind them, Larsson (was given 5 in New Jersey, but it was taken in Edmonton so went for the closest in 6) and Khaira mentioned how they used to wear 7 (Khaira also grew up wearing 11, and would like to honour his dad by wearing it).

    Now, Khaira seemed to have more levity in his response, talking about 7 and 11 were worn by some great players, but Larsson seemed a bit indifferent.

    He would stick with 5, 6, and 7, “wherever he ends up”.

    Does he feel as though he might be leaving Edmonton sometime soon, and thus could finally go back to wearing 7? Preparing himself for the possibility by separating emotion? Or is he just like that?

    Just worried me, is all.

    I think most players are always reminding themselves they could be traded, particularly when the team isn’t where it should be in the standings.

    I think someone who is speaking a language that is not their native language may not communicate the message they intended to.

    Maybe he meant growing up playing hockey, he would accept whatever number was given to him and that is just the way he has always operated.

  103. €√¥£€^$ says:

    New Improved Darkness,

    Do you write for a living? Your style, although not easy to follow is so unique. It is stream of consciousness-like, but done with surgeonesque precision. I’d be interested in reading your poetry or better yet see what you could come up with for slam poetry or even rap.

    It could be epic in either direction, lol.

  104. Munny says:

    New Improved Darkness: I was too young for a sleeping dictionary, but I was not too young for Voltaire, Rabelais, or Belloc—why do adults always hide the good stuff?

    They didn’t till public schooling came along…

  105. Professor Q says:

    €√¥£€^$,

    Ken Watanabe:

    The Last Samurai
    Memories of Tomorrow
    Letters From Iwo Jima

    I still need to watch Unforgiven, Tampopo, and Isle of Dogs, and can’t wait for Detective Pikachu (which I think will be a major hit even with non-Pokémon fans)!

    Tony Jaa:

    The Protector (made me cry!)
    Ong-bak: The Thai Warrior

    And I admit, I haven’t seen many. Apparently the sequels to both might be worth watching, as well as Kill Zone and Kill Zone 2, and he was also in Furious 7.

    Have you ever seen Infernal Affairs, the original The Departed?

    Man, after saying all these, I realize I know about a lot of them but haven’t actually watched them.

    Train to Busan and Old Boy are definitely ones I’d recommend as well.

  106. Munny says:

    €√¥£€^$: Do you write for a living? Your style, although not easy to follow is so unique

    He’s a real rabelais-rouser…

  107. Professor Q says:

    €√¥£€^$,

    Oh, and I didn’t know that about the biopic. That’s a shame.

    I grew up really idolizing Bruce and Brandon, despite their faults. I know, I know, idolization is a tricky business and one should be careful. All that.

    I have a lot of respect for Shannon, too. I haven’t seen I Am Bruce Lee, but it was produced by her, so I think it should be okay, as she is and should be the keeper of memorials for both her father and brother (along with her mother), despite the rest of the family fighting for the rights and doing their own separate memorials (like Bruce Lee, My Brother, by Robert Lee).

    She’s also producing Warrior, which was an idea of her father’s, which obviously he wasn’t able to realize.

    I’ve seen Finishing The Game, which is sort of a humorous documentary/mockumentary, but was still enjoyable and shows you can poke fun at people you look up to while respecting them and addressing racial stereotypes in the arts.

  108. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Oilman99:
    McSorley33,

    Yes,zero’s are special,special numbers.

    Zero was introduced into the European sphere from India via the Liber Abaci (Book of the Abacus) by Leonardo of Pisa a.k.a. Fibonacci.

    That book was published in 1202, which is to say, even longer ago than Lucic’s last goal.

  109. Professor Q says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Zero was introduced into the European sphere from India via the Liber Abaci (Book of the Abacus) by Leonardo of Pisa a.k.a. Fibonacci.

    That book was published in 1202, which is to say, even longer ago than Lucic’s last goal.

    However, there is evidence that it was introduced even earlier via the Iberian Peninsula (at the time, al-Andalus) by the inhabiting Moors. The Arabs and Islamic peoples were fascinated with science and learning (poetry, engineering, literature, etc.) almost fanatically so, and were inspired by and improved on whatever they found.

    This included what they learned from Indian, Chinese, and Greco-Egyptian polymaths.

    They were used to the North African deserts, but once they came to inhabit the fertile lands of now Spain and Portugal, they were able to develop it into a diverse land of plenty with their knowledge of flora and fauna, engineering, and what would become known as the Fibonacci Sequence (it is how they made such beautiful and amazing buildings).

    Arabian and Islamic scientists made such an impact, that Europe would adopt their religion, science, and number system, with open arms (unfortunately, the former there would only last for a short period; a lot of conflict ensued).

  110. Professor Q says:

    Sashkov with an awkward goal, being reviewed for kicking motion, which was redirected from Samorukov.

    It is ruled as No Goal by the officials, whose Canadian nationality is oddly enough being focused upon.

    This could light a fire underneath both teams.

  111. godot10 says:

    v4ance:

    When Chiarelli inherited the team it had enough forwards for two #1 lines & meh, 3 middling NHL defencemen, $20 million in cap room and only Ference’s buyout on the books.

    Chiarelli inherited McDavid, Hall, Draisaitl, Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle, Barzal-equivalent, Pitlick, Khaira…i.e. he inherited a top nine in the medium term

    He also inherited Schultz, Klefbom, Nurse, Carlo-equivalnet, Marincin. He was missing a #1D, and a #4D in the medium term.

    And arguably, the deal for Talbot was in place, and he had an NHL backup in Brossoit.

    In 3.5 years, with three additional first round picks, all he really had to do was find a top pairing D, and hire a coach who wouldn’t screw things up.

    He failed miserably.

  112. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Professor Q: However, there is evidence that it was introduced even earlier via the Iberian Peninsula (at the time, al-Andalus) by the inhabiting Moors. The Arabs and Islamic peoples were fascinated with science and learning (poetry, engineering, literature, etc.) almost fanatically so, and were inspired by and improved on whatever they found.

    This included what they learned from Indian, Chinese, and Greco-Egyptian polymaths.

    They were used to the North African deserts, but once they came to inhabit the fertile lands of now Spain and Portugal, they were able to develop it into a diverse land of plenty with their knowledge of flora and fauna, engineering, and what would become known as the Fibonacci Sequence (it is how they made such beautiful and amazing buildings).

    Arabian and Islamic scientists made such an impact, that Europe would adopt their religion, science, and number system, with open arms (unfortunately, the former there would only last for a short period; a lot of conflict ensued).

    Good stuff, Prof.

  113. Bruce McCurdy says:

    And great stuff by Lowetide as well as our mutual friend Dr. WheatNOil.

    Allan, if I may be so bold, your colleague Dave was right to single you out after that moment of weakness. He knew you were better than that, and time & again you have since proven him correct. Today, especially. It took no small courage to tell us that story.

    Have courage: fight racism.

  114. godot10 says:

    JimmyV1965: I don’t think Lucic can be on the active roster next year. A fourth season with that kind of production cannot be good for team morale. Maybe the answer is telling him not to return, sucking it up and making him a permanent healthy scratch. Let his agent try to broker a deal.

    I would make him practice, do all the travel, and sit in the pressbox. If he doesn’t like it, he can retire. He signed the contract. He has to fulfil the obligations of that contract.

  115. McSorley33 says:

    Professor Q,

    I’d rather fire him now. Mid-season. Don’t give him a chance to scrape back for another year by chance of players clicking. Retool after that.
    *********************************************************************************************
    I couldn’t agree with you more….but this org. just let him trade a draft pick and
    future cap space away for Brandon Manning. This tells me they will wait until the summer.

  116. drglen says:

    Slocanoil,

    If you went to malmo school, you probably do!

  117. Pescador says:

    godot10: I would make him practice, do all the travel, and sit in the pressbox.If he doesn’t like it, he can retire.He signed the contract.He has to fulfil the obligations of that contract.

    Or you could just tell him your intentions and let him decide then,
    Save everyone from further embarrassment
    I think that happens this summer, maybe he scores 1-2 more goals this season

  118. €√¥£€^$ says:

    godot10: I would make him practice, do all the travel, and sit in the pressbox.If he doesn’t like it, he can retire.He signed the contract.He has to fulfil the obligations of that contract.

    Just wondering, as I can’t think of precedence, has there been a situation like this in the last 10 yrs where injury/ailment or “advanced age” or escape to KHL wasn’t a factor?

  119. Bulging Twine says:

    €√¥£€^$: Has anyone seen/heard anything resembling “the plan”?

    No, at the end of last season Nicholson said that Chiarelli was coming back because Nicholson believed in his plan and that they would come out with the plan here shortly. I haven’t heard what the plan is, has anyone? What’s the plan that Nicholson believes in?

  120. €√¥£€^$ says:

    In looking into answering my Lucic retirement question, here is an article talki g about Shea Weber’s contract and the implications of an early retirement. The last few years would not be good for Nashville, yuck.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/the-salary-cap-implications-of-a-shea-weber-early-retirement/ar-AAzKrlW

  121. Pescador says:

    New Improved Darkness:
    After eighth grade in racially monochromatic Red Deer, I arrived the next year at a school on the west coast with mostly the same racial monoculture, but also about 15% enrollment from nearby native populations. My off-colour exposure in Red Deer, and Calgary before that, was mainly to a few Newfie jokes, and the surprising cultural discovery that Polish people are buried upside down to provision inexpensive bicycle racks. (While I didn’t believe this for a second, I distrusted pierogis for a long time afterwards.)

    Things here on the west coast were suddenly in a different league, because now the “chugs” were among us, and neither on a distant coast, nor (mostly) on a distance continent.I had never been exposed to alcohol culture (except for picking up truly shocking quantities of beer cans from some garage on every second street in the annual Cub Scout can drive) so for the first week I wondered if “chug” had something to do with the last spike. I quietly pondered all the ineluctable coolie deaths inherent in threading giant timber trellises through solid granite, and the larger arc of the national narrative, wherein I had also learned the John A. was habitually three sheets to the wind, though the implied liability of this—in the character of a national figure—was left entirely unexplained; I had by then already puzzled out that John A. was somehow the human embodiment of the Manitoba muskeg, but that still didn’t explain much. Turns out, “chug” had more to do with the first pike, rather than the last spike. I had my Burton asp backwards.

    The next thing I noticed is that all the native kids had thick skins, and mainly kept to themselves. For every last one—at least in my year, so far as I could see—school was an ordeal, not an opportunity.

    I also mainly kept to myself, where possible, having been indifferently socialized from a young age (what’s bred in the bone admits only partial escape …). It’s not an easy age to speak up for anyone else, when you can’t even speak up for yourself (on second thought, perhaps I had that formulation ass backwards, too).

    Another shock that year was mandatory French instruction: that precise moment when it sinks in that you’re no longer safely ensconced in Red Rose country, Smeagol.

    Maybe I would have taken to this less resentfully had my teacher introduced me to any French thing worth knowing in my first week, such as the indispensable l’espirit de l’escalier. I was too young for a sleeping dictionary, but I was not too young for Voltaire, Rabelais, or Belloc—why do adults always hide the good stuff?—anyway, it should be plain why my classmates instinctively kept me far, far away from curriculum reform.

    This sentiment was evident in Belloc’s childrens’ stories:

    Those stories would have been superb, even in my nascent, pidgin French—and better still, they were originally penned in English, so the crib was easy to find. One story he missed telling, though: “Alain, who said nothing, and grew up to host a very popular blog”.

    Obviously, I differ from Belloc: there’s something about Mary I can’t get with.

    Another thing they don’t tell you is that even l’espirit de l’escalier takes decades to perfect. Thinking of any suitable retort, at any point in your future life, is a definite step up.

    No, what we have here is the eerie absence of l’espirit de l’orean and the irrepressible Michael J.

    Charmed with a pair of time-tunnel gull wings—suitably retrofitted with underarm, window-winder Dassault Mirage hard mounts and a Voltairean roof-rack rail-gun of Panglossian pique—how might I beak my former classmates now, then?

    I sure wouldn’t be explaining matters in terms of “window-winder Dassault Mirage hard mounts”.

    Mais, non: when you’re getting sore, you don’t want the message to soar right over their tiny little heads—it needs to sink in well and truly before their eleventy-first birthday.

    [*] Perhaps l’espirit d’h muzzy Proudfeet eventually apprehends the arid extra dry admonishment, but that’s an egg, not a chicken. Not all Hobbits claim kinship with the Warmbottom clan; old Ginny Warmbottom was sharp as a tack—when sufficiently kettled in her Nestlé—and that’s a fact.

    And so we begin: Mary—and presumably Joe—had a little lamb, and its fleece was altogether unlike snow.

    Michael J. Me to Smug Chug-Mugging Bandybreath: “So, did your parents teach you to behave like that, or did you just make it up as you went along? Because I’m sure getting the impression from your behaviour that your parents are card-carrying members of the Asshole Underground. Is that the impression you’re tying to create? Because if it is, keep up the good work, you’re doing great.”

    Perhaps on first impression the Asshole Underground sounds furtive and elite, but the truth is that it’s a lot like the black market: you soon perceive that it’s here, there, and everywhere—from the very instant you cotton on.

    The problem with the DeLorean scenario is that it doesn’t actually turn you into a charming Fox.

    Mais, non: I’d arrive on the cusp of puberty (coincident, not incidentally, with the original robot-proxy Star Wars) and not yet a single Wookiee hair to call my own, but instead as my old, spindly, sun-avoidant self—having gained from the DeLorean passage all of one meager, diabolically unhinged tongue—now fully lubricated with ancient French umbrage.

    I can taste the blood already. It would mostly be my own—flowing mainly through clenched teeth—teeth clenched involuntarily on a formerly wagging muscle.

    Not to mention more than a few bicycle-tire atomic wedgies, after excavating my own shallow grave with instantaneous puck-on-a-lethal-string Datsyukian moxie.

    But at least I’d find myself face down in the dirt, yukking privately to myself.

    One thing I didn’t know then: sometimes dirt mixed with blood tastes good.

    Small edit: l’espirit de quick sandwich.

    Thank you for gracing us, I sincerely appreciate every word I read.
    Might I inquire as to the name of unsaid gr8 “school” you did attend?
    Wondering if we ever shared the same bully,
    Also, how come you never answer anyone’s questions?
    You don’t have to answer that..

  122. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Bulging Twine,

    Thank you for responding! I didn’t think “The Plan” had been presented, I didn’t see the recent Chia presser and thought it may have been brought up.

    This will be the last time I bring it up, but last year I wrote an email to Bobby Nicks & Cc’d Katz imploring them to fire TMac and ChiaPete (and I shared the email here, encouraging others to do the same). It would be nice if others on this blog would follow suit, instead of talking about how fed up they are and are likely to abondond their fandom…..

    I think anyone who spends time on this blog would have a vested interest in sending an email to the powers that be, rather than giving up…. There are a lot of good writers here, I am sure they could get their message across much better than I did.

  123. Pescador says:

    Bulging Twine: No, at the end of last season Nicholson said that Chiarelli was coming back because Nicholson believed in his plan and that they would come out with the plan here shortly.I haven’t heard what the plan is, has anyone?What’s the plan that Nicholson believes in?

    Last I heard of actual plan details were from that tier1 season tickets holders luncheon.
    5 years from McDavid’s draft is almost up.
    I don’t know about you but I’m excited for the Oil to win the cup next season.
    Man that’s going to be sweet

  124. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Pescador: Thank you for gracing us, I sincerely appreciate every word I read.
    Might I inquire as to the name of unsaid gr8 “school” you did attend?
    Wondering if we ever shared the same bully,
    Also, how come you never answer anyone’s questions?
    You don’t have to answer that..

    Dontchyano that NID is actually rickithebear?

  125. tileguy says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Is wanting secure borders racism?

  126. fishman says:

    tileguy,

    No. Every country has the right to secure it’s borders.

    Unless of course you are Canada. As long as you don’t cross at a manned border crossing you can enter the country and claim refugee status. While waiting years? for a hearing you are given shelter, food, health care and education. If you are a bad character you disappear and hope RCMP can’t find you. In the mean time those who wish to immigrate to Canada legally wait for years. Trudeau put a spin on it today by saying it helps the economy as we have a worker shortage!

  127. Professor Q says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    In looking into answering my Lucic retirement question, here is an article talki g about Shea Weber’s contract and the implications of an early retirement.The last few years would not be good for Nashville, yuck.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/the-salary-cap-implications-of-a-shea-weber-early-retirement/ar-AAzKrlW

    It’s so weird. I’m likely not understanding it properly, but does this mean that for some reason Nashville gains a $25 million cap hit in the final season (regardless of the high cap hits of prior seasons)?

    Why does it happen to them and not Montréal, the team he is on? Even the $4 million cap hit seems way too harsh, to be honest. Unsustainable and severely punishing. Nashville would have to trade a lot just because of something natural (or not).

  128. v4ance says:

    tileguy:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    Is wanting secure borders racism?

    It is when it is a fake excuse. Deep down, people don’t believe that the majority of brown people attempting to cross the US Mexico border fleeing from persecution, violence, and poverty are actually drug dealers or rapists. It’s just fear of the unknown. Fear of the other. Dressed up as a security issue.

    As a student of history, I remember when there were accounts of “No dogs or Chinamen allowed” in restaurant windows. Before that, it was the Irish or the Italians or any other group that came to North America looking for a better safer and more prosperous future. Over time, people got over their fears and many peoples of many colors have integrated and been accepted.

    This fuss about a border wall is just the most recent demagogue pushing a false narrative to get into a position of power to loot and rob the American people.

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    Phil Kemp with a wonderful defensive play to keep the US up by one.

    The 7th round pick is an underated prospect.

  130. Side says:

    fishman:
    tileguy,

    No. Every country has the right to secure it’sborders.

    Unless of course you are Canada. As long as you don’t cross at a manned border crossing you can enter the country and claim refugee status. While waiting years? for a hearing you are given shelter, food, health care and education. If you are a bad character you disappear and hope RCMP can’t find you. In the mean time those who wish to immigrate to Canada legally wait for years. Trudeau put a spin on it today by saying it helps the economy as we have a worker shortage!

    Now apply this principle to the time where indigenous people roamed Canada before the colonies came over.

    Does your answer or opinion change at all?

  131. slopitch says:

    Great post LT!

  132. €√¥£€^$ says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    In looking into answering my Lucic retirement question, here is an article talki g about Shea Weber’s contract and the implications of an early retirement.The last few years would not be good for Nashville, yuck.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/the-salary-cap-implications-of-a-shea-weber-early-retirement/ar-AAzKrlW

    So in using the cap recapture penalty formula as per this article, the annual penalties until end of the Lucic contract are as follows:

    2019-20 $1.250 million
    2020-21 $1.666 million
    2021-22 $1.500 million
    2022-23 $2.000 million

    I don’t claim any knowledge of this other than what Ivread in this article, can anyone confirm if my understanding is correct?

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    €√¥£€^$: The differnce is the speed of the game, injuries can strike at anytime to anyone, but Kailer just spend the season in the Bake.I don’t think he is at the level yet where he needs to be to make a difference in the NHL.

    Different position, etc, but one year of pro experience a great summer of training made a world of differnce for Caleb Jones.

    I am on board with the Oilers sending Kailer back to the Condors and leaving him there and essentially forgetting him as an NHL option for the year. Yamamoto is a 22nd overall pick (not a top 5 pick) in his rookie pro season – AHL development should be expected for this level of prospect. I think management decision last over the years with respect to forward prospects has put unreasonable expectations on the fan base with respect to timelines for prospect development.

    Anyways, my post was simply a retort to him needing to be in the AHL so he doesn’t get hurt playing against big strong men – to me that is not a real reason given the AHL os full of big strong me.

  134. dustrock says:

    fishman:
    tileguy,

    No. Every country has the right to secure it’sborders.

    Unless of course you are Canada. As long as you don’t cross at a manned border crossing you can enter the country and claim refugee status. While waiting years? for a hearing you are given shelter, food, health care and education. If you are a bad character you disappear and hope RCMP can’t find you. In the mean time those who wish to immigrate to Canada legally wait for years. Trudeau put a spin on it today by saying it helps the economy as we have a worker shortage!

    Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name

    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

    “Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
    With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

  135. OriginalPouzar says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    BTW jet lag is an asshole.

    Yup, except my 3am workouts this week have been marvellous (my brain thinks it’s mid-afternoon when the body is at its peak).

    I have slept 0 hours, 1 hour and 3 hours at night since I got back – I’m getting there.

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    tileguy: Yes I agree with that assessment, what would you do with Yamo? The A is where he belongs as he hurts the big team.

    I am in favour of placing him back in the AHL and leaving hi. There – forgetting about him as an NHL option for the year.

    Just let the rookie pro develop and gain some traction and momentum.

  137. OriginalPouzar says:

    Chiasson will play tomorrow against LA.

    Russell practiced fully today with no set-backs – he’s not confined yet for tomorrow night but he very well may be in the lineup.

  138. BustedSoulO says:

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

    Yeti:
    Oh crap. You know you’re getting old when the adverts on Lowetide shift from ‘Hot Russian Girls’ to ‘Over 40s Soulmates’. By the time the Oilers win a Stanley I’ll be onto retirees dating.

  139. Bulging Twine says:

    Professor Q:
    €√¥£€^$,

    I grew up really idolizing Bruce

    When i was in junior high a boy and his brother came from the Philippines to live with his aunt and uncle and two female cousins, one very attractive and proper and well spoken.
    Marc, I’ll call him, was a mega Bruce Lee fan. Idolized him. Watched all his movies over and over and learned all his moves even his fight scream, cry, sound thingy. He would teach me and my friends Bruce Lee moves after church on Sundays. My friends were really fascinated by Marc, they thought he was a martial arts expert, I kinda thought he was a fraud as he never took classes, just watched Bruce Lee movies. One time he brought nunchuks and was really good with them. I sucked. A couple of my friends bought nunchuks after.

    On to high school. We went to the same one. Marc was in mechanics, he bought a car buffed it down but didn’t paint it, put on big tires on the back and would drive around the school block blasting the Miami Vice theme song. He started dressing like Tubbs. Furthering my thoughts that he was a fraudster wannabe. A real fascinating wannabe.
    Then I heard he slept with two girls at the same time. High School legend! Maybe not a wannabe. One of which, in grade 8, pulled a chair up backwards to me, leaned in real close and asked, “wanna go out, I give a good lay?”

    So one day, I hear rumblings that some kung fu guy is going to fight this tall guy from mechanics after school. Kung fu guy? I wonder if it’s Marc? Who else would it be?
    I go out after school to the site. It’s Marc! I finally get to find out if he’s legit! I wish my friends were here.

    There is this huge crowd and that feeling, remember it? The feeling of a fight in the air. It was intense. Here’s Marc, I was nervous for him. Marc, you think you are a Martial arts expert from watching Bruce Lee movies but this other guy is way bigger than you. Oh man. What balls though to fight one on one after school in front of all these people.

    The mechanics guy finishes his smoke, takes his jacket off and gives it to his girlfriend and steps forward towards Marc. Marc starts bouncing and making some weird, high pitched noises and hands in some martial arts pose. The shouting intensifies from the crowd and it’s on. Marc confidently moves toward the big guy, turns and with a perfectly straight leg, performs a roundhouse(?) and connects hard to the tall guy’s jaw. Down goes Frazier. Marc swiftly jumps on the fallen foe and delivers a hatchet karate chop the side of the face and knocks the guy out.

    Legend

  140. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Professor Q,

    Seems extraordinarily harsh, but if this was instituted after the contract was signed, it is hardly enforcible, I would think. But if it is, you’d think Nashville would be sending a 2nd Rounder and a prospect to Mtl to incentivize them to encourage Weber to retire before next season, and then have them get rid of that contract as a compliance buy-out during the next CBA.

  141. who says:

    OH MY GOD!
    Just listened to Bob Stauffer replaying a Brian Burke interview from yesterday. The one where Burke compares Winnipeg to Edmonton.
    Burke believes that Edmonton should be patient with Chia because Winnipeg was patient with their management a few years ago when fans were screaming for a change. Sounded like Bob agreed with him.
    Don’t know if Stauffer reads this blog or not but that is quite a spin. I feel the need to point out those are two entirely different situations.
    Winnipeg fans were upset that Chevy did nothing but draft and develop, while the NHL team struggled to make the playoffs.
    Edmonton fans would have been ecstatic if Chia had done nothing but draft and develop once he took over. It is indisputable that the Oilers would be further ahead if this had happened.
    Asking for patience for Chia after 4 years, when it was his own impatience that got him into this mess, is laughable.

  142. doctoreye says:

    Pescador,

    Make him an assistant coach……….no Cap !

  143. Professor Q says:

    who,

    Yes, indeed. We don’t really have the 6-8 years or so that it took Winnipeg to fix the mistakes of Atlanta. Perhaps the whole re-location helped them in that regard, also.

    They’ve had big trades which have helped them, but not too many, obviously. I also think that if they hadn’t leap-frogged Edmonton, the Oilers would be in a better position with Laine than how things unfolded.

    Things happened by chance and by design.

  144. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    tileguy:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    Is wanting secure borders racism?

    Bruce didn’t mention immigration.

    Don’t take a good discussion about being a decent human and standing up for decency and make it a jumping off point for a political hobby horse.

    Not here.

  145. €√¥£€^$ says:

    dustrock,

    +36,710,000+

  146. Lowetide says:

    who:
    OH MY GOD!
    Just listened to Bob Stauffer replaying a Brian Burke interview from yesterday. The one where Burke compares Winnipeg to Edmonton.
    Burke believes that Edmonton should be patient with Chia because Winnipeg was patient with their management a few years ago when fans were screaming for a change. Sounded like Bob agreed with him.
    Don’t know if Stauffer reads this blog or not but that is quite a spin. I feel the need to point out those are two entirely different situations.
    Winnipeg fans were upset that Chevy did nothing but draft and develop,while the NHL team struggled to make the playoffs.
    Edmonton fans would havebeen ecstatic if Chia had done nothing but draft and develop once he took over. It is indisputable that the Oilers would be further ahead if this had happened.
    Asking for patience for Chia after 4 years,when it was his own impatience that got him into this mess, is laughable.

    I agree with everything Burke said in terms on the team’s direction. Draft and develop, don’t trade, because the deals available come at too high a cost. When you enter into a negotiation as the aggressor, the other side can be indifferent. Build your system, offload extra talent to re-tool. Add WHEN you’re ready.

  147. Chief Inspector says:

    How was Samorukov versus the USA?

  148. Lowetide says:

    Chief Inspector:
    How was Samorukov versus the USA?

    He was excellent in the parts of the game I saw. He seems more settled in international games.

  149. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Bulging Twine,

    Nice story, thanks for sharing!

    Do you think Marc “the Filipino Bruce Lee” could beat the “Afghan Bruce Lee”, lol

    https://www.thesundaily.my/archive/enter-afghan-bruce-lee-video-AUARCH511288

  150. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maksimov opens the scoring for Niagara 5 minutes in.

    No Bouchard for London again tonight.

  151. dustrock says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    Bulging Twine,

    Nice story, thanks for sharing!

    Do you think Marc “the Filipino Bruce Lee” could beat the “Afghan Bruce Lee”, lol

    https://www.thesundaily.my/archive/enter-afghan-bruce-lee-video-AUARCH511288

    Looking forward to Bruce Lee: Into the Bruce-Verse

  152. who says:

    Lowetide: I agree with everything Burke said in terms on the team’s direction. Draft and develop, don’t trade, because the deals available come at too high a cost. When you enter into a negotiation as the aggressor, the other side can be indifferent. Build your system, offload extra talent to re-tool. Add WHEN you’re ready.

    Is there something in Chias history that makes you think this is the path he will follow? Cause I haven’t seen it.
    No question that Chia has improved the farm system. But it doesn’t do much good if you piss away assets and cap space at the NHL level.

  153. nelson88 says:

    Chief Inspector,

    Didn’t see the game but played 25+ minutes. Most of any Russian D

  154. BustedSoulO says:

    tileguy:
    Bruce McCurdy,

    Is wanting secure borders racism?

    If it’s because you “don’t want those brown people coming over to here!”, then yes. It IS!

    And if “A Wall” is your idea of security, then yes. It IS!

    Because a wall is the epitome of division. – 1000+ years of a Nationalist China. – The most horrific symbol of modern Israel. – The template for hatred in Berlin for over forty years, when the entire world was ingrained in the idea that bullets were more valuable than babies.

    Allowing ignorance to be salved by yet more ignorance is a lazy method to allow base emotions and impulses to gain a voice. And more often than not, those impulses and emotions are fraught with racist ideals.

    Wanting modern immigration policies is absolutely an astute stance in today’s world.

    Clamoring for “…secure borders…” is nothing short of racist dog-whistling.

    “…We can all, Be Better…”

  155. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Maksimov opens the scoring for Niagara 5 minutes in.

    No Bouchard for London again tonight.

    I really hope that both he and Samorukov are playing on Tuesday.

  156. €√¥£€^$ says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yup, except my 3am workouts this week have been marvellous (my brain thinks it’s mid-afternoon when the body is at its peak).

    I have slept 0 hours, 1 hour and 3 hours at night since I got back – I’m getting there.

    It was an 28.5 hr travel day for us coming back and we decreased the original time by 5 hrs when we were able to get on a standby flight back to Calgary from Vancouver, otherwise I was thinking I’d probably bump into you at YYC. I’ve never travelled like you have been able to, I can’t even fathom TBH to be able to stretch out and lay down on a commercial aircraft. All the power to you, perhaps on day I’ll have an opportunity to do so as well.

    The closest comparable for me (but not really) was flying in a Herc up to CFS Alert in 2005 (3 months later I travelled across the Middle East in a Herc, but the Afghanistan leg was uncomfortable wearing body armour and a 10lb helmet shoulder to shoulder with about 40 others), which was something like an 8 hr flight and I was able to find a spot on some soft cargo in the tail end of the plane, but Hercs are drafty and noisy, lol.

    On the journey back I had a 30 minute snooze on Beijing-Vancouver leg and about 20 minutes flying to Calgary. I did okay the 1st 2 nights at home and was wide awake at work yesterday, but last night I fell asleep at around 7:30 for about 2 hrs and got maybe 15 minutes after that. Hopefully normal starts tonight….I hope you find normal sleep.soon as well 😀

  157. €√¥£€^$ says:

    BustedSoulO,

    Well put!

  158. workaroundaccount says:

    There’s only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerent of other people’ cultures, and the Dutch.
    -Nigel Powers

    The French-English grudge is ridiculous. Wish the old farts would just let it go. Junior kid doesn’t deserve that, and Calvillo should be able to get whatever job he wants in Montreal.

  159. €√¥£€^$ says:

    dustrock: Looking forward to Bruce Lee: Into the Bruce-Verse

    Lol, now that is a take I didn’t consider, considering the multiple Bruce emulators that are out there, but Afghan Bruce bears the closest.resemblance.

    Did you see the Spiderverse movie? I caught it in Putian, impressive animation,.good movie (although I could do without Peter Porker, lol.

  160. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide: He was excellent in the parts of the game I saw. He seems more settled in international games.

    He was very good in the tournament last year (increased his role throughout) and excellent this year but I don’t think we should discount his play for Guelph this year – he’s had a very good year and his offence was spiking over the last month.

    I’m very excited to see how he does in Bakersfield next year (and he had a solid 5 games or so from what I can remember at the end of last year).

  161. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q: I really hope that both he and Samorukov are playing on Tuesday.

    I would think Bouchard would be back in the lineup by then.

  162. OriginalPouzar says:

    €√¥£€^$: It was an 28.5 hr travel day for us coming back and we decreased the original time by 5 hrs when we were able to get on a standby flight back to Calgary from Vancouver, otherwise I was thinking I’d probably bump into you at YYC.I’ve never travelled like you have been able to, I can’t even fathom TBH to be able to stretch out and lay down on a commercial aircraft.All the power to you, perhaps on day I’ll have an opportunity to do so as well.

    I am very grateful that the wife and I have not only the opportunity and privilege to travel but also the good fortune to do so in the manner we have over the last few years.

    Yes, I work damn hard to be able put us in the position to do this (and we have made decisions in our life, such as not having kids, in order to prioritize travel), however, being a white, male in my 40s and growing up in a middle class family has provided the opportunity that most in the world do not have) – grateful.

    A mere 3 or so years ago, I was 100% against buying business class tickets as the price was simply unjustifiable – its like 4X the price (if not more) of a regular ticket – how does one justify that? It was when I was checking us in for a 13 hour flight to Buenos AIres and there was an option to upgrade to business class for only $700 each – I did it and it ruined us for future international travel.

    We love to travel and we often go long distances for short periods (Hong Kong for 7 days, Sri Lanka for 9 days) and the ability to avoid the shit show at the airports (relax in the lounge) and, more importantly, at the gate (priority boarding and not dealing with people on their worst behavior) and then, of course, being able to actually “go to bed” for a 7 plus hour stretch – it really helps with hitting the ground running after a crazy long travel period and a huge time change – that is really important when one only has 7-8 days – don’t want to be a horrible bag of jet-lagged crap for half the trip.

    Anyways, I am grateful to be able to travel this way and in no way discount the privilege that I have received in that regard.

  163. McNuge93 says:

    BustedSoulO: If it’s because you “don’t want those brown people coming over to here!”, then yes. It IS!

    And if “A Wall” is your idea of security, then yes. It IS!

    Because a wall is the epitome of division. – 1000+ years of a Nationalist China. – The most horrific symbol of modern Israel. – The template for hatred in Berlin for over forty years, when the entire world was ingrained in the idea that bullets were more valuable than babies.

    Allowing ignorance to be salved by yet more ignorance is a lazy method to allow base emotions and impulses to gain a voice. And more often than not, those impulses and emotions are fraught with racist ideals.

    Wanting modern immigration policies is absolutely an astute stance in today’s world.

    Clamoring for “…secure borders…” is nothing short of racist dog-whistling.

    “…We can all, Be Better…”

    The Berlin Wall wasn’t built to keep people out. It was built by totalitarian communists to keep their people from leaving to the west. And i’d cut some slack to the Israelis. They are surrounded by tens of millions of people and multiple governments that hate them and think they shouldn’t exist.

  164. BustedSoulO says:

    McNuge93: The Berlin Wall wasn’t built to keep people out. It was built bytotalitarian communists to keep their people from leaving to the west. And i’d cutsome slack to the Israelis. They are surrounded by tens of millions of people and multiple governments that hate them and think they shouldn’t exist.

    Me pointing: Look! What’s that, flying up and away, that way, directly behind you?

    You turning and looking(?): huh?

    Me: That, was my point.

  165. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maksimov with a primary assist on a PP goal to get Niagara back in the game (down 4-2 in the second currently).

  166. Lowetide says:

    who: Is there something in Chias history that makes you think this is the path he will follow? Cause I haven’t seen it.
    No question that Chia has improved the farm system. But it doesn’t do much good if you piss away assets and cap space at the NHL level.

    I was speaking strictly in terms of the organization and what I believe would be the best path forward. I’m not sure how they get there from here but it would be my preference.

  167. who says:

    Lowetide: I was speaking strictly in terms of the organization and what I believe would be the best path forward. I’m not sure how they get there from here but it would be my preference.

    Then we are agreed. Does that make us both brilliant?

  168. Glovjuice says:

    smellyglove: If GM Chia can’t GM then the question I have to ask is,”why is he a GM?”

    If Katz and Nicholson don’t trust him why is Chia on payroll and then who really is pulling the strings? That’s why I don’t necessarily but that Chia is hand cuffed

    Another big query: pointing to Woodguys’s postabout $13 mill in dead cap space next year. Lucic et al. and buyouts. How does LT community clear cap space in 2019?

    This is what I don’t get either. Then, when posters here call out terrible moves as a clear canary in a coal mine they get hammered on. Now, granted, these posters call him out over and over (e.g. Me) but it needs to be done as he has DESTROYED this team’s chance for greatness. His ‘meh’ moves, as posters like to tell me, matter. And, they happen OVER AND FRIGGIN OVER AGAIN. He needs to be fired immediately.

  169. JimmyV1965 says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    Bulging Twine,

    Thank you for responding!I didn’t think “The Plan” had been presented, I didn’t see the recent Chia presser and thought it may have been brought up.

    This will be the last time I bring it up, but last year I wrote an email to Bobby Nicks & Cc’d Katz imploring them to fire TMac and ChiaPete (and I shared the email here, encouraging others to do the same).It would be nice if others on this blog would follow suit, instead of talking about how fed up they are and are likely to abondond their fandom…..

    I think anyone who spends time on this blog would have a vested interest in sending an email to the powers that be, rather than giving up…. There are a lot of good writers here, I am sure they could get their message across much better than I did.

    I’ll send an email. What’s the address?

  170. Lowetide says:

    who: Then we are agreed. Does that make us both brilliant?

    No. 🙂 It’s actually what they’re doing but I think they might have started too late to save their jobs.

  171. hunter1909 says:

    JimmyV1965: I’ll send an email. What’s the address?

    You would know that if you were a Tier 1 fan; the only kind of fan the Oilers care about.

  172. northerndancer says:

    LT/AM, today’s postings are a great example of why this blog is so fine. Thank you. Come for the hockey and stay for the side conversations. It is so much of what the internet promised us old folks but has failed to deliver. A place to have a reasonable conversation that allows for sharing and conversation in safety and comfort.

    I am often terrified to hang out in a room full of strangers and shoot the shit. But I like to talk hockey and I like to do so with people who give a shit about other stuff as well and are willing to share that stuff.

    Today’s conversation has been so encouraging.

    Did we solve all the problems with the Oilers. Probably not. (Hint: we need a higher cap, better GM and/or dump the Old Boys etc.)

    Here is a conversation starter: (honest question as people say)

    Does anyone else think that the Boys on the Bus don’t actually want the McDavid Oilers to succeed? Because success would eclipse or at least replace in the minds of the young the value of their own accomplishments?

    How about that for a soap opera?

    And I agree, draft and develop should be the way forward. Stay the course. We are almost there…

  173. Bulging Twine says:

    I love that many of you have/had good relationships with your Dads. Such a beautiful thing. Something all human beings should be able to enjoy. I wish it for everyone.

  174. Bulging Twine says:

    Pescador: Last I heard of actual plan details were from that tier1 season tickets holders luncheon.
    5 years from McDavid’s draft is almost up.
    I don’t know about you but I’m excited for the Oil to win the cup next season.
    Man that’s going to be sweet

    So it’s next year then is it? Awesome!

  175. northerndancer says:

    Bulging Twine,

    OIler years are like dog years.

  176. Bulging Twine says:

    €√¥£€^$: Dontchyano that NID is actually rickithebear?

    That’s one of the things that make this blog great. Two completely different minds posting in the same place.

  177. northerndancer says:

    Some of us have half a mind to post

  178. €√¥£€^$ says:

    JimmyV1965,

    I sent my email to: bnicholson@edmontonoilers.com and Cc’d wgretzky@edmontonoilers.com & dkatz@edmontonoilers.com

    *edited

    The Gretzky email didn’t go through, as it was bounced back as not a valid email address. Whether or not they were filtered & sent to junk folder, I have no idea.

  179. Bulging Twine says:

    Fear is what bullies rely on.
    If someone stands up to them or speaks out, it puts a hole in their world and they often don’t know what to do. They see that their intimidation isn’t working and they are forced to adapt.
    Often we don’t say/do something because of the fear of what may happen but it usually turns out better than we think. Much much better.

  180. Bulging Twine says:

    €√¥£€^$:
    Bulging Twine,

    Nice story, thanks for sharing!

    Do you think Marc “the Filipino Bruce Lee” could beat the “Afghan Bruce Lee”, lol

    https://www.thesundaily.my/archive/enter-afghan-bruce-lee-video-AUARCH511288

    lol
    same haircut

  181. northerndancer says:

    I suspect the Gretzky is a CGI character at this point. My sweetie always comments about “he has had too many concussion or too many ???” whenever he appears on TV.

    What did you ask of the Great One?

  182. northerndancer says:

    Sad, actually, in either case.

  183. hunter1909 says:

    northerndancer: Does anyone else think that the Boys on the Bus don’t actually want the McDavid Oilers to succeed? Because success would eclipse or at least replace in the minds of the young the value of their own accomplishments?

    At the end of the day it really won’t affect their legacy. But when you have mechanics like Lowe+MacT getting elevated to an absurd level of power, adding the madness of Katz(now That’s a meme if there ever was) by not sacking them pretty well precludes some of the influence the Gretzky’s and Messiers and Coffeys might have offered. There’s only so much room on the bridge of a ship.

  184. drglen says:

    northerndancer:
    Bulging Twine,

    OIler years are like dog years.

    that’s very funny

  185. OriginalPouzar says:

    I know many people don’t care (and I apologize for posting about it) but I know some like to hear about it but I just booked non-stop tickets on Air Canada to Tokyo for April – two weeks April 6 to April 20 – I put AC business class up there with the “luxury airlines” – Ethiad, Cathay Pacific, etc.

    We’ve been talking about Japan for a while – I’m pumped.

  186. drglen says:

    Doug Wilson, .. … seems pretty sharp.. (but we’ll see how next year shakes down)

    OK Joe Sakic had some hickups…. but 50/50 keeping on the old guard to run the show, officially or non-officially, can work. In fairness it probably doesn’t work more often than it works.

    Here is a good article I read on how Colorado turned it around. Just maybe 2-3 years ago burdened by old veterans on expensive and longish contracts. They traded what they could, ended up buying them out.. just ate the loss, and they stock the farm and keep them down there if they can.. but most importantly they don’t want vets over 31 and they never offer more than 3 years. Apparently, they are 14 million UNDER the cap? !! Sakic got moved to assistant GM.

    https://thehockeywriters.com/colorado-avalanche-contracts-2018/

    I think we(oilers brass) have tunnel vision. ( I do too, don’t know enough about Nurse-comparable defensemen eg. ) but PC if he wants to keep his job has to buy out lucic. The oilers have to buy him out, or trade him out pay his wage in a new place.. Still going to be a lag before we can do much.

    Button ( bit of a meandering rant) .. has changed his tune on JP, basically saying trade him to cut your losses, trending down. He was so high on him a year ago. No, he’s wrong. He’s developing.. slowly. but surely. Trading him componds a mistake… (salary cap mistake, compounded by trading valued assets) .. I’m of the keep JP camp. ( please score JP)

    You guys may be right… everybody in the managment box is too close, to tight , to see things as they really are and take clear decisive action based on what would be objective clear to an outsider.

    Was looking at annaheim, their GM Bob Murray, like Doug Wilson, was a longtime defenceman for the Hawks. I did not know that. So, .. maybe the best GMs have significant NHL playing experience? Or is it more about business and management savvy?

  187. OriginalPouzar says:

    Both Rasanen and Dudek with goals tonight for Boston College.

    Rasanan’s first of the year in a poor year for the prospect (who I’ve liked internationally for Finland) – I think he’s missed games with injury.

  188. northerndancer says:

    hunter1909,

    Maybe I should reframe it from the perspective of the current players. I can’t imagine it feels good that they are constantly reminded that they are an inferior team. And that they may never match up to the BOTB. Another reason to not want to test themselves in the Edmonton market, assuming some have options.
    Possibly arguing against myself, I think the meme of not wanting to play with this or that player or in this or that city is overblown. These are young folks who have grown up being part of teams and that dynamic does rule over all. I have played on shitty teams with other shitty players (besides myself) and at the end of the day I believe that most of us play for each other and the prospect of winning together.

  189. northerndancer says:

    hunter1909,

    BTW Hunter, I am so amused by your crowd sourcing decision making processes. And glad you stuck around. I enjoy your contributions and even agree with some of them.

  190. northerndancer says:

    Question for the masses????
    Hitchock mentioned the other day how the players are monitored for fatigue? at practices and that practices are tailored accordingly.
    Does anyone know what they are measuring or how it is done? It certainly flies in the face of the usual rants about ‘bag skates’ and ‘punishing/favouring’, etc.

  191. northerndancer says:

    And where is VOR when I want him, anyway? He seemed to have disappeared from posting about the time Hitchcock was hired. Coincidence? (I am now starting a rumour)

  192. healthyscratch says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I know many people don’t care (and I apologize for posting about it) but I know some like to hear about it but I just booked non-stop tickets on Air Canada to Tokyo for April – two weeks April 6 to April 20 – I put AC business class up there with the “luxury airlines” – Ethiad, Cathay Pacific, etc.

    We’ve been talking about Japan for a while – I’m pumped.

    I spent 2 weeks in Japan last year. What an amazing culture! You’ll have a great time. Invest in a 2 week JR pass with green car access and you can easily travel all over the country in comfort.

  193. Side says:

    northerndancer:
    And where is VOR when I want him, anyway?He seemed to have disappeared from posting about the time Hitchcock was hired.Coincidence?(I am now starting a rumour)

    VOR is Todd McLellan?

  194. digger50 says:

    Darn right we are all equal and deserving of respect.

    Unless you have an inability to make a good hockey trade …… then it’s fair game!

    Sorry, couldn’t resist.

  195. northerndancer says:

    Side: VOR is Todd McLellan?

    No. VOR is Hitch. Or a virtual Hitch! Or virtually a Hitch!
    The anti-Todd. I think I should stop now.
    The science guiding sport or athletic development is so fascinating. A far cry from “don’t go swimming until an hour after dinner”

  196. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I know many people don’t care (and I apologize for posting about it) but I know some like to hear about it but I just booked non-stop tickets on Air Canada to Tokyo for April – two weeks April 6 to April 20 – I put AC business class up there with the “luxury airlines” – Ethiad, Cathay Pacific, etc.

    We’ve been talking about Japan for a while – I’m pumped.

    Well, we have a $30,000 stereo and 3,000 CDs and records cuz it’s worth it to us so I can certainly see the appeal in flying luxury if you can afford it. Of course, it has been cheap downloads for the last five years since we had a daughter at 43 (we are both 48 now) and no more high end stereo equipment and $50 records either – trade offs is the spice of life now. Our travel is all camping from now till old age and death. But, music, bowls and beer around the fire is all we need. I do like sushi though.

  197. OriginalPouzar says:

    northerndancer:
    Question for the masses????
    Hitchock mentioned the other day how the players are monitored for fatigue? at practices and that practices are tailored accordingly.
    Does anyone know what they are measuring or how it is done?It certainly flies in the face of the usual rants about ‘bag skates’ and ‘punishing/favouring’, etc.

    The comments about “bag skates” were not based on reality of what was happening.

    Hitchcock had expressed many times since he took over that those that play more and higher taxing minutes may not be required to practice as much and actually may be forced to leave practice – this is to manage fatigue.

    A tweet came out, can’t remember if it was Stauffer or Wilkins or Michaels, and all it said was that three prominent players were taken off the ice part way through practice and the rest stayed for drills.

    There was zero mention of a bag skate but some drew that narrative from the comments.

    There still has been no evidence or actual implication of a bag skate.

  198. OriginalPouzar says:

    healthyscratch: I spent 2 weeks in Japan last year.What an amazing culture!You’ll have a great time. Invest in a 2 week JR pass with green car access and you can easily travel all over the country in comfort.

    Thanks for the tip.

    We’ll need to start doing our research pretty soon as I’m not sure they best way to travel across Japan as far as accommodations – we often look for nice Air BnBs on vacation – largely due to the fact we can have a kitchen which allows us to manage the food better (more for me than the wife) – neither of us want to eat over 50% of our meals “out” for two weeks.

    I’m not sure if Air BnB is a good option for Japan or not – shouldn’t be hard to figure out.

    Oooh, wonder if any of the big cities have a Shangri-La – we are starting to accumulate some nice loyalty points.

  199. northerndancer says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I agree with you on that. What struck me was how some created narratives based on the simple fact that a few players were practicing less. We/I know so little of what goes on behind the scenes and I find the science of training and the explanations of that sort more interesting and informative than the speculations.

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