Game 46 2018-19: Sabres at Oilers

This is Ty Rattie sending an area pass that will eventually end up in the back of the Coyotes’ net. It’s a skill play, but doesn’t have a massive degree of difficulty for an NHL veteran. Everything Connor McDavid did in the sequence after the pass was more difficult. Fair? Now. How many forwards on the current roster can make that Rattie pass?

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OILERS AFTER 46

  • Oilers in 2015: 18-23-5, 41 points; goal differential -24
  • Oilers in 2016: 24-15-7, 55 points; goal differential +6
  • Oilers in 2017: 19-23-3, 41 points; goal differential -26
  • Oilers in 2018: 21-21-3, 45 points; goal differential -12

The current group is probably getting squeezed by the hockey Gods compared to the non-playoff teams (they should have more points) but there’s not really an argument about things being fair. The Oilers are closer to the playoffs than they should be based on all evidence available.

OILERS IN JANUARY

  • Oilers in January 2016: 3-2-2, eight points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in January 2017: 4-3-0, eight points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in January 2018: 3-4-0, six points; goal differential -10
  • Oilers in January 2019: 3-3-0, six points; goal differential -5

We talked about surviving until Klefbom returned, this week is a big one. The January goal differential is sliding up and there are tough teams on the schedule.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM JANUARY

  • On the road to: Arizona, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 2-2-0)
  • At home to: Florida, Arizona, Buffalo (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 1-1-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Calgary, Carolina, Detroit (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 4-5-2, 10 points in 11 games
  • Current results: 3-3-0, six points in six games

Buffalo, Vancouver, Calgary. I have this week 0-3-0. Seriously. I did predicted before McDavid was unable to appear at the skills event. This could get ugly in a hurry, or this team could show us something we may not be able to see. It is time to stand and deliver.

MCDAVID

Connor McDavid took a stick to the jaw on Saturday, and had the flu yesterday. One hopes (well, prays) he’s playing tonight, but part of me wonders if the best thing for this time might be playing and winning a game without him. One problem with that idea: I don’t think they can.

THE 20 BEST PLAYERS IN THE 2019 DRAFT

  1. (1) LC Jack Hughes, U.S. National Development Team (USHL)A brilliant offensive player, cerebral, quick and highly skilled. Some in the scouting industry believe he is so far above anyone there’s not a conversation about No. 1 this year.
  2. (2) R Kaapo Kakko, Turkku (Sm-Liiga)A big power forward with tons of talent who is emerging in real time. He’s 6.02, 190 already, quick hands and creative. Also protects the puck well.
  3. (5) R Vasili Podkolzin, St. Petersburg (MHL). Smart player with tons of offensive ability, but also possesses good two-way instinct and plays with an edge.
  4. (3) R Dylan Cozens, Lethbridge (WHL)Size, skill and he can skate. Range of skills, accurate shooter. He’s being undervalued on some lists.
  5. (4) RC Kirby Dach, Saskatoon (WHL).A dynamic player with size and tremendous skill, has speed, wingspan and an excellent release. Injuries have him falling a little but there’s a lot to like.
  6. (6) L Arthur Kaliyev, Hamilton (OHL)He’s a fantastic scoring prospect. Good not great skater.
  7. (7) LC Trevor Zegras, U.S. National Development Team (USHL)Undersized and highly skilled, elusive and aggressive with very good speed.
  8. (8) L Jakob Pelletier, Moncton (QMJHL). Undersized skill winger with two-way ability.
  9. (9) LC Peyton Krebs, Kootenay (WHL).Skill forward who can score, he has quick feet and good hands. Simon Boisvert likes him for the Oilers.
  10. (10) LC Ryan Suzuki, Barrie (OHL)Great vision, skill, tremendous passer. If he were faster, he’d be top five.
  11. (11) R Cole Caufield, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). He’s small, fast and a ridiculous scorer. Quick release, accurate.
  12. (12) LD Bowen Byram, Vancouver (WHL). Explosive speed is his top attribute but he’s also excellent with the puck and owns a heavy shot. Likely the first defenseman off the draft board.
  13. (13) LC Alex Turcotte, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). A strong two-way reputation, he is skilled and an excellent skater. Injuries a worry.
  14. (14) LD Cam York, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). The latest impact puck mover out of the USHL, great speed, passing and creativity.
  15. (15) L Matthew Boldy, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). Bigger winger with skill, he’s strong on the puck and can score goals.
  16. (16) RC Raphael Lavoie, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Big center with a long reach, and a plus shot. He’s also an excellent skater.
  17. (17) LD Thomas Harley, Mississauga (OHL). Good size, speed and he’s posting impressive numbers. Spiking as we speak.
  18. (18) LC Alex Newhook, Victoria (BCHL).Terrific scorer with playmaking skilled and dogged determination on the backcheck. High end potential.
  19. (19) LD Matthew Robertson, Edmonton (WHL). Big two-way defenseman with good speed and some offense. He’s an excellent passer.
  20. (NR) LC Connor McMichael, London Knights (OHL). Interesting player, he seems to have come out of nowhere a little. He’s an intelligent two-way center who has spiked offensively this year. Speed described as lacking a quick first step.
  21. (NR) LW Nils Hoglander, Rogle (SHL). He’s an undersized skill winger, good skater, December 2000. 30, 5-3-8 in the SHL.
  22. (NR) RD Victor Soderstrom, Brynas (SHL). Impressive offensive defenseman with speed and skill. He isn’t a trainwreck defensively either.

RYAN SPOONER

I don’t think there’s any doubt he gets bought out this summer, but it’s vital he delivers something this winter. Seriously. Spooner was a reasonably competent complementary winger at one time. Oilers need that. RFN.

Both Khaira and McDavid (along with Klefbom, Petrovic, Sekera and Yamamoto) have to be considered at least questionable. Stay close to your information today, we should know by noon who can play.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

We are back! At 10 this morning the hiatus ends and I’ll return to my important work of breaking down the English language into mush. We have guests! Scheduled to appear:

  • John Kryk, NFL columnist, Postmedia & Toronto Sun. A big weekend in the NFL and the final four (Rams, Saints, Patriots, Chiefs) is set. Is this the Patriots year again?
  • John Horn, Commentator, Reporter, Producer with ESPN, WTA, MLB Network, TSN. Australian Open is underway, a boatload of Canadians play tomorrow.
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. Oilers v. Sabres and what the trade deadline might look like.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. RonnieB says:

    OriginalPouzar: We would only be able to “bury” $1,050,000 of the bad contract coming back

    Or he could list 10 teams that would have zero interest in trading or him…how hard would it be to pick 10 teams out of Boston, Carolina, Tampa, Pittsburg, Washington, Columbus, Nashville, Anaheim, Vegas, San Jose, Winnipeg, St. Louis, Dallas, Ottawa, Detroit, Minnesota, Calgary…need i go on ?

  2. Kaptain Vikarious says:

    I hear things too…but the meds help.

    🙂

  3. LMHF#1 says:

    hungoverman:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    i love Connor McDavid.
    I am starting to think the only way this team changes and all of the bad apples, whomever they may or may not be, is by Connor asking for a trade and for it to go public.
    Mr. Katz can do as he pleases ultimately as he signs the cheques. But…if there is as much chaos and horrible mismanagement inside the organisation as a lot of people speculate about,I wonder if shame is the only thing left to save this team from itself.
    I am 48 and have been cheering for the Oilers since I saw my first NHL game as a young boy. But…this team has been awful for decades really. If Connor goes, I go with him and I am sure many more fans would as well.
    Just my 2 cents.
    Thanks and end rant.

    Not necessary…but I do hope Connor and Orr arrange a meeting with Mr. Katz and threaten it.

  4. --hudson-- says:

    If you want to see another team imploding…
    “I’m very frustrated that I have not been able to gain consistency in our performance, and I haven’t been able to change the culture of mediocrity.” – Jim Montgomery
    https://twitter.com/DallasStars/status/1084324540023336960

  5. Oddspell says:

    Woodguy v2.0: My information is that the org is tired of looking like a tire fire and feel that firing Pete will just add to that image.

    That said, they are aware that the optics are not good if they keep him and miss the playoffs as well.

    Assuming this is accurate, I think it’s telling that the org is worried about replacing a failing manager because of the optics of failure… and in doing so they are dooming themselves to failure. Have they considered that the best option for not looking like a tire fire is to… stop being a tire fire?

    Maybe as a fan I have a different perspective, but I would respect an org that continues to look for solutions and fails more than one that is loyal to a single avenue of failure. Really feels like the fans are being taken for granted.

    I wish folks would stop going to games.

  6. leadfarmer says:

    RonnieB: Or he could list 10 teams that would have zero interest in trading or him…how hard would it be to pick 10 teams out of Boston, Carolina, Tampa, Pittsburg, Washington, Columbus, Nashville, Anaheim, Vegas, San Jose, Winnipeg, St. Louis, Dallas, Ottawa, Detroit, Minnesota, Calgary…need i go on ?

    Some of the limited NTC are close to complete NTC with how many teams are in a cap crunch

  7. hungoverman says:

    LMHF#1,

    Hope so.
    Plus no trades until new managers are hired is my hope.
    But…doubtful.

  8. godot10 says:

    –hudson–:
    One new stat out today by Hitchcock: the Oilers are third in possession after a shot according to Alex Chiasson.So they’re recovering rebounds at a good rate, time to up the volume of shots.
    Source: https://youtu.be/-RL1dErzwoo?t=145

    That is because none (fewer) of the Oilers shots end up as goals. It also suggests that the Oilers are being kept to the perimeter, and taking poor quality shots.

  9. godot10 says:

    –hudson–:
    If you want to see another team imploding…
    “I’m very frustrated that I have not been able to gain consistency in our performance, and I haven’t been able to change the culture of mediocrity.” – Jim Montgomery
    https://twitter.com/DallasStars/status/1084324540023336960

    He is saying this after 40 games as coach, not after over a decade in Oilers managment. Dallas is also currently in 3rd place in the central in a playoff spot, and have lost 4 of their starting six defensemen, many for longer than Klefbom is going to be gone, and one of them was Klingberg.

    Imploding in Dallas would be a rip roaring success in Edmonton.

  10. hunter1909 says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick: Oilers organization is on a full court press to find help at forward. Scouts and staff deployed en masse.

    IMpressive.

    Reminds me of the lawyer in “Stir Crazy” telling clients Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor how he’s “fighting mad” at their 130 year sentences.

    It could also be the sucker at the poker game deciding he’s lost enough and then offers his family’s house up for collateral for another thirty five grand in chips.

    He can’t lose forever, right?

  11. hunter1909 says:

    godot10: He is saying this after 40 games as coach, not after over a decade in Oilers managment.Dallas is also currently in 3rd place in the central in a playoff spot, and have lost 4 of their starting six defensemen, many for longer than Klefbom is going to be gone, and one of them was Klingberg.

    Imploding in Dallas would be a rip roaring success in Edmonton.

    Is it possible to trade owners?

  12. Tapdog says:

    Little Johnny Frostbite: Or sadly, “Kucherov and some scissors.”

    Take the scissors and ask Chiarelli to run with them…….

  13. Alpine says:

    Chelios is a Dinosaur:
    Joining this thread reminds me of how I felt watching Children of Men.

    Man, if there isn’t a better film to summarize the last decade plus of the Oilers. The 0% fertility rate represents the Decade of Darkness and the baby being born is McDavid. The next GM is gonna have to be Clive Owen levels of heroic to get this team out of its rut.

  14. McSorley33 says:

    Jonathan Willis

    @JonathanWillis
    Edmonton has been out-shot 460-338 (all situations) over the last month. That’s 31st in the NHL.

    Edmonton has been outscored 53-37 (all situations) over the last month. That’s tied with Ottawa for 27th in the NHL.

    This is not a team that should be shopping at deadline prices.

    168
    4:01 PM – Jan 14, 2019
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    Mr. Willis nails it….

  15. jtblack says:

    I have been trying to be optimistic about the Team, the new coach, the soft schedule …. etc ..

    But I find that I keep fooling myself?

    Maybe acceptance is the best way forward. Accepting this is a Top Heavy, highly flawed roster with average (at best) goaltending.

    Acceptance has brought me peace. I hope they win tonight, but won’t be surprised if they lay an egg.

    This is us.

  16. McSorley33 says:

    SportsNet Twitter:

    Four players have accounted for 72 per cent of all goals scored by #Oilers forwards.

  17. Darth Tu says:

    Tapdog,

    Sadly the scissors he’d end up with would be one half of a pair of safety scissors.

  18. Wilde says:

    I think they’re getting everyone involved so as to circumvent their preference to not have Chiarelli make a big trade. They’re going to fuck the Oilers future by committee/full house, this time.

    They’re on pace to be 34 goals behind Minnesota by the end of the year, and the effect of the best guy they could pull would be worth what, 15 goal differential against replacement per 82?

    That’d be destroying the last five years of the McDavid contract in order to ice a -25ish team. Incredible.

  19. --hudson-- says:

    godot10: He is saying this after 40 games as coach, not after over a decade in Oilers managment.Dallas is also currently in 3rd place in the central in a playoff spot, and have lost 4 of their starting six defensemen, many for longer than Klefbom is going to be gone, and one of them was Klingberg.

    Imploding in Dallas would be a rip roaring success in Edmonton.

    All of Dallas, Avs and Wild are having a mediocre race due to injuries/lack of depth. Just thought people here would appreciate a distraction and to see what’s going on with another team.

    No arguments here on the Oilers ineptitude.

  20. Oil2Oilers says:

    The Oilers will not win the cup this year (or likely make the playoffs)

    The Oilers are unlikely to win the cup next year.

    Sad, but the play here is to stay the course this deadline, not chase the impossible dream.

    This summer it should be possible to trade from the position of most strength, LHD, for the one of most need #3C. Russell for a 3C with approx term and salary should be doable. This let’s McLeod develop in the AHL.

    I would not object to tradiing down for a player like Raphael Lavoie at the draft. Especially if it aides the removal of the Lucic contract.

    Of course reports today have the Oilers doing the opposite.

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    While clearly better than the Oilers, even with their 10 game winning streak earlier in the year, the Sabres are somewhat mediocre this year and currently outside the playoff picture. They have 3 wins in their last 10 and are playing their third in four nights.

    If the coach didn’t decide to insert Brandon Manning in the lineup and deploy the bottom 6, seemingly, without reason, I’d feel not bad heading in to this one.

    Looking forward to seeing Skinner and, of course, Dahlen and Eichel, along with Mittelstadt – dont’ get a chance to see these guys very often.

    Some star power in this game.

    Who will win the battle of the boat anchor contracts, Lucic or Okposo? Lucic getting the early deployment bump with Okposo on the 4th line.

  22. drewas@telusplanet.net says:

    This reminds me of an old Slavic saying, “managed to eat the whole dog only to choke to death on the tail”. I am thinking the tail is on its way.

  23. fishman says:

    Oil2Oilers:
    The Oilers will not win the cup this year (or likely make the playoffs)

    The Oilers are unlikely to win the cup next year.

    Sad, but the play here is to stay the course this deadline, not chase the impossible dream.

    This summer it should be possible to trade from the position of most strength, LHD, for the one of most need #3C. Russell for a 3C with approx term and salary should be doable. This let’s McLeod develop in the AHL.

    I would not object to tradiing down for a player like Raphael Lavoie at the draft. Especially if it aides the removal of the Lucic contract.

    Of course reports today have the Oilers doing the opposite.

    Yep totally agree with above. Hard to envision any move that would make us a playoff team this season. Way too many holes and poor roster over all. Trading future picks or Puli likely takes us further down the rabbit hole! Would like to hear some of the comments at the STH meeting! Would assume they were likely scathing….

  24. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Darth Tu:
    Tapdog,

    Sadly the scissors he’d end up with would be one half of a pair of safety scissors.

    Could this still result in “death by a thousand cuts”?
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/edmonton-oilers-gm-peter-chiarelli-says-theres-no-easy-answer-to-early-woes/article37111597/

  25. OriginalPouzar says:

    –hudson–:

    Hitchcock talks a bit about his deployment strategy today.It’s mostly about pairs and he’s got a group of 4 players (McD, Drai, RNH, Chiasson) who are interchangeable.He’ll make two pairs from them, and the third forward depends on who’s going that night.His cue to juggle the third member is when there is a lull in play without scoring chances.

    He’s spoken about this before as well including Chiasson being in that group of 4.

    In my opinion, Chiasson shouldn’t be in that group – he should not be a guarantee on the top 2 lines – the top PP, yes, but not the top 6.

    Last game he juggled Rattie right off the top line in favor of Chiasson even though Rattie was skating well early, making plays and set up the goal while, as we’ve seen over a long enough sample size, Chiasson just doesn’t work with McDavid at 5 on 5.

  26. jtblack says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    “Who will win the battle of the boat anchor contracts, Lucic or Okposo? Lucic getting the early deployment bump with Okposo on the 4th line.”

    Ohhhhh that years FREE AGENT crop is Baaaaaaaad !!!

    Star power is right. Remember the mild debate about McDavid / Eichel … Connor has 100 MORE points than Jack in the same amount of games …. And Jack is the real deal. Shows how Incredible Connor is!

    Lets Go Oilers

  27. OriginalPouzar says:

    McDavid and Chiasson have a GF% of 50% together and negative possession metrics.

    McDavid has a GF% of 58% away from Chiasson

    Chiasson has a GF% of 64% away from McDavid (in 252 minutes).

    The third point alone is reason enough to not put Chiasson with McDavid – the three points combined make it a truly terrible deployment strategy.

  28. littleenglish says:

    The Charging Buffalo (@TheChargingBUF) Tweeted:
    .@FriedgeHNIC just said on NHL Network that Jesse Puljujarvi is available in Edmonton. They’re all in on making playoffs this year.

    #Oilers #Sabres #HockeyTwitter https://twitter.com/TheChargingBUF/status/1084955406647115776?s=17

  29. --hudson-- says:

    McSorley33:
    SportsNet Twitter:

    Four players have accounted for 72 per cent of all goals scored by #Oilers forwards.

    I get a slightly worse number. 98 goals scored by Oilers forwards.
    McD + Leon + Chias + RNH = 81
    81 / 98 = 83%

    Only other team I see somewhat comparable are the Blackhawks.
    Kane + Toews + Debrincat + Saad = 78 goals
    78 / 106 = 74%

    Every one else is between 45-65%. It’s not a really valuable stat in my opinion, the Oilers will always be top heavy as long as McD and Drai are healthy. The really telling stat is the scoring after the bottom 3 or 4 players, where the Oilers are really lacking production.

    The Oilers also have one of the lowest scoring d cores in the league, only Boston, NJ, Arizona and LA have fewer goals on the backend. Somewhat surprising since each of those teams have a player you would hope the Oilers would target.

  30. Darth Tu says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick,

    Oh god. It probably will! 1000, tiny, tiny, cuts.

  31. HT Joe says:

    hunter1909: Is it possible to trade owners?

    Easy… stop cheering for the Oilers and stop buying the merch…

  32. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tonight:

    COL/TOR – Go Leafs
    MIN/PHI – Come on Flyers
    STL/WSH – Lets go Caps

  33. jtblack says:

    littleenglish,

    Does that mean Jeff Skinner is coming for 2 months?

    oh boy …….

  34. jake70 says:

    hunter1909: IMpressive.

    It could also be the sucker at the poker game deciding he’s lost enough and then offers his family’s house up for collateral for another thirty five grand in chips.

    LOL. Ex girlfriend back in my university days in Halifax…..father, um drank a little too much….lost the family vehicle in a poker match one night. True story. The tension in that household at the time makes me cringe just thinking about it. Thanks for the reminder…ha.

  35. --hudson-- says:

    Here’s a comparison in depth scoring between the Oilers and Tampa by forward depth.
    Tampa 29 24 22 18 11 11 10 9 8 7 6 6 5
    Edm 27 23 17 14 4 4 2 2 2 2 1 0 0
    Diff -2 -1 -5 -4 -7 -7 -8 -7 -6 -5 -5 -6 -5

    Here’s a comparison with league average.
    Mean 21 17 15 12 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 2
    Edm 27 23 17 14 4 4 2 2 2 2 1 0 0
    Diff +6 +6 +2 +2 -6 -4 -5 -4 -3 -2 -2 -2 -2

    Hope that displays ok on mobile. The Oilers may always have unproductive depth in slots 5 to 7 based on the contracts to Lucic, McD and Drai but there’s no excuse to be under league average in spots 8+.

  36. Rondo says:

    Only way Chiarelli makes a good trade is by mistake.

    His track record has proven that.

  37. Bling says:

    I keep thinking we’ve hit the ground floor of stupid, and then Chia appears with a hard hat and a shovel.

    Katz needs to step in and stop of all of this. These guys should not be allowed to make any significant moves with future assets. Fire them all.

    This is not a playoff team, and mortgaging the future is going to ruin the next few seasons.

  38. Bling says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    McDavid and Chiasson have a GF% of 50% together and negative possession metrics.

    McDavid has a GF% of 58% away from Chiasson

    Chiasson has a GF% of 64% away from McDavid (in 252 minutes).

    The third point alone is reason enough to not put Chiasson with McDavid – the three points combined make it a truly terrible deployment strategy.

    Yeah this doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    Then again, we are now entering a period of time where Jesse Puljujarvi may be moved before Milan Lucic is made a healthy scratch.

    How about that?

    Fire them all.

  39. jtblack says:

    OP. At any point if it’s clear Sekera cannot come back this year, can the Oilers then use his $5.5 mil ???

  40. Glovjuice says:

    Our GM traded a contributing right shot, penalty killing 3C for a buyout candidate. Fire this GM RFN (as LT likes to say).

  41. Glovjuice says:

    Professor Q: I have grown to be convinced that Chiarelli has been scuttling the Oilers all along, paired with incompetence. The worst part is the he hasn’t been stopped due to incompetence elsewhere.

    How Katz can’t see the issues is beyond me. A billionaire, how?

    It’s fucked. Totally.

  42. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OmJo: Until they see the cap situation and the trend of Edmonton being the final stop in many, many careers.

    I think a GM of made of the right stuff could sort the cap out satisfactorily without more gutting. There are 3 contracts that are the main problem and 2 of the players are still capable players ‘if’ Sekera gets up to speed, which he should be able to given his second injury is relatively minor, and the major one has had a lot of time to heal.

    My concern with Sekera isn’t getting his game back, it’s that he’s hit some kind of wall physically and will get another injury, as happens to some guys.

  43. Professor Q says:

    littleenglish:
    The Charging Buffalo (@TheChargingBUF) Tweeted:
    .@FriedgeHNIC just said on NHL Network that Jesse Puljujarvi is available in Edmonton. They’re all in on making playoffs this year.

    #Oilers #Sabres #HockeyTwitter https://twitter.com/TheChargingBUF/status/1084955406647115776?s=17

    “We need more forwards, and a lot more help offensively. ”

    “Let’s trade Puljujärvi and Yamamoto. More D will help.”

  44. OriginalPouzar says:

    COL/TOR – Scoreless after 1
    MIN/PHI – 2-2 (MIN was up so that’s a good score)
    STL/WSH – 1-0 WSH – Ovie with a PPG

    For those that have given up on the season completely, feel free to ignore these updates – although, if enough seem annoyed by them, I can stop.

  45. dessert1111 says:

    I don’t mind the theory of trading Puljujarvi if a long term valuable piece is coming back.

    Chiarelli is about the last guy in the league I want to trade an emerging skill winger.

    I’m worried the outcome will be similar to Forsberg for Erat years ago.

  46. digger50 says:

    Professor Q: “We need more forwards, and a lot more help offensively. ”

    “Let’s trade Puljujärvi and Yamamoto. More D will help.”

    This just can’t end well.

  47. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    @TheChargingBuf

    .@FriedgeHNIC just said on NHL Network that Jesse Puljujarvi is available in Edmonton. They’re all in on making playoffs this year.

    #Oilers #Sabres #HockeyTwitter

    DSF DM’d me that Ferraro said on Vancouver radio “the plan in Edmonton is panic” and that they are trying to get Tarasenko.

    Hang on everyone, chances are this doesn’t end well.

  48. Dicky94 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Keeper coming. This is the only site I go to for Oiler sports info. Maybe add the odd weather forecast too would be great.

  49. Rondo says:

    Katz is is making money with a losing team. Why change

  50. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Derek:
    We can’t fire this guy, we’ll look bad. Let’s just let him trade Oscar Klefbom for Jake Virtannen to shore up the scoring and we’ll be golden.

    You haven’t seen the pipes on a Virtanen. Plus he’s got a Finnish name so he can talk to Jessiya Pulupushmi. What do you mean we traded him?

  51. fifthcartel says:

    Rishaug was on TSN 1040.

    – Sekera’s future is in doubt so they have some LTIR money to play with
    – 1st and Puljujarvi in play as a combination or by themselves
    – Hasn’t seen Edmonton fanbase have so little confidence in a decision maker ever
    – If he comes to Bob’s Burgers with an obviously bad trade they won’t let him make it (and they’ll fire him on spot)
    – but when you’re desperate that’s the type of moves that get made
    – if they lose two of the next three that’d probably be enough for Chiarelli to be fired
    – watch the Calgary game, if that goes badly could be enough.

    Only in Edmonton could you have authority to trade a potential lottery pick and/or former top-five pick and also be fired within a week.

  52. digger50 says:

    Dicky94:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Keeper coming. This is the only site I go to for Oiler sports info. Maybe add the odd weather forecast too would be great.

    I don’t know why this is so funny, but it is.

  53. Zelepukin says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    @TheChargingBuf


    .@FriedgeHNIC just said on NHL Network that Jesse Puljujarvi is available in Edmonton. They’re all in on making playoffs this year.

    #Oilers #Sabres #HockeyTwitter

    DSF DM’d me that Ferraro said on Vancouver radio “the plan in Edmonton is panic” and that they are trying to get Tarasenko.

    Hang on everyone, chances are this doesn’t end well.

    So Pujo, Yammer and our 1st. Chia would probably throw in Nurse because he is an idiot trying to save his job.

  54. Jethro Tull says:

    Glovjuice: It’s fucked. Totally.

    Best post ever.

  55. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    COL/TOR – Scoreless after 1
    MIN/PHI – 2-2 (MIN was up so that’s a good score)
    STL/WSH – 1-0 WSH – Ovie with a PPG

    For those that have given up on the season completely, feel free to ignore these updates – although, if enough seem annoyed by them, I can stop.

    Whoa:

    COL/TOR – TOR up 2-1 half way through the second
    MIN/PHI – MIN takes a 3-2 lead, whoa, check that PHI just tied it up early in the second
    STL/WSH – STL with 3 straight and up 3-1 half way through the second.

  56. jtblack says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    “Hang on everyone, chances are this doesn’t end well.”

    I have been hanging on since JUNE 2015. Holy Faaaaaack. When will this ride end.

  57. London Jon says:

    McSorley33:
    More reports saying the Oilers started trying to trade Spooner soon after obtaining him – ala Ryan Strome.

    Please fire Peter Chiarelli.

    I remember there was some positivity about Peter in the early days around ‘he’s not afraid to admit his mistakes and cut his losses.’ An admirable quality until it dawns on you how many mistakes he makes.

    How can you scout the hell out of a player and then realise you’ve been had 3 or 4 weeks later?!?!??

    Stop the league from laughing at us, please

  58. jtblack says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    STL/WSH – STL with 3 straight and up 3-1 half way through the second.

    St.Louis has been playing better (getting wins) since they stapled Allen to the bench. They could crawl back into this thing; which probably puts Panic Pete’s Tarasenko bid on hold.

  59. Jethro Tull says:

    If you’re at the table wondering who the sucker is, it’s you.

  60. Zelepukin says:

    London Jon:

    Ya when public message is the Oilers are desperate for a trade, that’s guaranteeing we win no trade and whoever does come here, has to somehow become the TSN Turning Point in making the playoffs.

  61. Buddy says:

    geowal:
    Would a Strome buyout have been equal to a Spooner buyout, since lost-retained salaries are equal?

    Strome was RFA last summer, so instead of giving him a raise they could have simply not qualified him and removed him from the books that way. And then possibly resigned him for less if no one else wanted him, like Pittsburgh did with Schultz. So no, the situations are very different.

    I guess the optics of turning Eberle into nothing wasn’t part of the plan, whereas the optics of turning Spooner’s cap hit into something useful might be. Guys like us shouldn’t expect to be able to keep up with this level of 3 dimensional chess.

  62. digger50 says:

    Over and over the Oilers cut off the leadership of thier team and expect kids to prosper.

    Add kids, even superstars to almost any other team and the kid receives leadership and mentor ship. Except Oilers. Add a talent to Boston – they seem to thrive. Add a talent to Oilers, they seem to wither.

    We were on the right track in 16/17. Lucic was doing what he was supposed to do. Hendricks was there, Maroon helped, Eberle helped. It’s not just that we cut out goals, we cut out those leaders again.

    Despite Connors play, did we have to load him up with everything? With Lucic floundering who does he look to? That’s one reason we don’t want to move Leon or Nurse at any cost as somebody has to grow this team! Stop chopping it down.

  63. BustedSoulO says:

    I don’t know what you guys are talking about today; I’ve had a late start, and I save the best for last.

    But I just saw this comment over on ON, and it shook me from my malaise!

    Apathy has begun it’s best work on me, just lately, when it comes to this year’s version of the Oilers.

    But seeing this, in black & white, has riled me up! The hatred I harbor for those who caused this, is unparalleled!!!

    39 years, I’ve loved this team. Katz owes me 27 good years. But I’ll be dead before they’re up!

    BASTARD! – I’ll have to find him in Hell, and show him how I really feel!!!

    ” – Schmidt Head (wrote)

    I’m going to nitpick here because there’s a very important nit which needs to be picked.

    The writer refers to the past 13 years which have been hard for Oilers fans. This is true enough if one is using 2006 as a benchmark but I’d like to suggest that there’s another year that’s a little more relevant if one wishes to fully understand the historic levels of ineptitude staining the Oilers hockey team.

    1992. Why this year? Because it’s the last time the Oilers were a consistently and reliably strong franchise.

    Since then, there have been 25 seasons completed. (One lost to lockout and one in progress = 27 years.) Of those 25 seasons, only 8 were winning ones and 17 were losing ones. The team made the playoffs only 8 times and missed them 17 times.

    Of those 8 playoff seasons, we only got past the 1st round 4 times and past the 2nd round once. We’ve won a grand total of 6 playoff series (3 in one year) and 37 playoff games. By comparison, Pittsburgh has won more playoff games in the past 3 years than we have in the past 25!!!

    So lets be honest when we’re summing up the Oilers recent legacy. It hasn’t been a “decade” of darkness, it’s been a damned 1/4 century of it!! – “

  64. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Yz is in a unique situation,

    He doesn’t need to work.

    He will work if he wants to.

    I can’t see him wanting to work in a city that he’s never worked in.

    He just left the best team in the NHL and its set up to be the best team for probably at least 5 years and it was due to his work.

    That’s not a guy who moves to EDM to be GM.

    That’s a guy who will do exactly what he wants to do and have a reason to do.

    There is no reason for him to come here.

    For sure. It’s the view of the org in the closed circle that is the league that stops capable people from wanting to ride the possibilities of McDavid’s coattails. Like really bad, there aren’t a lot of generational players to Hitch your wagon to.

    It should be a no brainer, but it’s just a no.

  65. jtblack says:

    Jethro Tull:
    If you’re at the table wondering who the sucker is, it’s you.

    Chiarelli is still waiting for a Sucker of a GM to show up …. waiting … waiting …

    Oh wait Pete. ……….

  66. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Lucic and McDavid for Tarasenko trade incoming!

  67. Wilde says:

    fifthcartel:
    Rishaug was on TSN 1040.

    – Sekera’s future is in doubt so they have some LTIR money to play with
    – 1st and Puljujarvi in play as a combination or by themselves
    – Hasn’t seen Edmonton fanbase have so little confidence in a decision maker ever
    – If he comes to Bob’s Burgers with an obviously bad trade they won’t let him make it (and they’ll fire him on spot)
    – but when you’re desperate that’s the type of moves that get made
    – if they lose two of the next three that’d probably be enough for Chiarelli to be fired
    – watch the Calgary game, if that goes badly could be enough.

    Only in Edmonton could you have authority to trade a potential lottery pick and/or former top-five pick and also be fired within a week.

    thank you for this

  68. jtblack says:

    Jethro Tull:
    If you’re at the table wondering who the sucker is, it’s you.

    Just imagine the GM meetings in Florida. I bet every GM tries to take PC out for dinner ….. They are thinking “This guy traded for Griffin Reinhart …. and then Brandon Manning.” …. “Maybe he will take Player X from me …”

  69. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bling:
    I keep thinking we’ve hit the ground floor of stupid, and then Chia appears with a hard hat and a shovel.

    Katz needs to step in and stop of all of this. These guys should not be allowed to make any significant moves with future assets. Fire them all.

    This is not a playoff team, and mortgaging the future is going to ruin the next few seasons.

    I think Katz is the one pushing for it……

    You are right on the last sentance – 2 years of doing nothing and the cap hell will alleviate (only Lucic would be left for anchor contracts), there would be a swarth of youngsters competing for jobs, McDavid/Drai/Nurse/Klef would be entering their primes, Bouchard will be ready to start to make an impact, there will be ELC value contracts.

    That’s without even trying to move some cap out in the interim (Manning, Russell, etc.).

    Trying to force something now could ruin that easy way out of cap hell.

  70. Bling says:

    fifthcartel:
    Rishaug was on TSN 1040.

    – Sekera’s future is in doubt so they have some LTIR money to play with
    – 1st and Puljujarvi in play as a combination or by themselves
    – Hasn’t seen Edmonton fanbase have so little confidence in a decision maker ever
    – If he comes to Bob’s Burgers with an obviously bad trade they won’t let him make it (and they’ll fire him on spot)
    – but when you’re desperate that’s the type of moves that get made
    – if they lose two of the next three that’d probably be enough for Chiarelli to be fired
    – watch the Calgary game, if that goes badly could be enough.

    Only in Edmonton could you have authority to trade a potential lottery pick and/or former top-five pick and also be fired within a week.

    For the future good of the franchise — and I hate that I’m saying this — the Oilers should lose the next three games.

    Yes the Old Boys need to be flushed, but the immediate threat is Chiarelli. Kick him down the road now, watch the team miss the playoffs, and then Katz can fire everyone else.

    #Firethemall

  71. geowal says:

    Buddy: Strome was RFA last summer, so instead of giving him a raise they could have simply not qualified him and removed him from the books that way. And then possibly resigned him for less if no one else wanted him, like Pittsburgh did with Schultz. So no, the situations are very different.

    I guess the optics of turning Eberle into nothing wasn’t part of the plan, whereas the optics of turning Spooner’s cap hit into something useful might be. Guys like us shouldn’t expect to be able to keep up with this level of 3 dimensional chess.

    Yeah but I’m not asking about the summer, I know he was re-signed. I’m asking how the math works on the buyout, essentially if retained salary counts. They gave up on Strome after signing him. So if they’d decided to ride out the rest of this year and buyout Strome summer 2019, would the cap fail be the same as a Spooner buyout? Never mind the logic of it, asking about the technicals.

  72. npanciroli says:

    On the positive side Tarasenko is a good target. On the negative side it will cost us and Chiarelli is negotiating.

  73. OriginalPouzar says:

    jtblack:
    OP.At any point if it’s clear Sekera cannot come back this year, can the Oilers then use his $5.5 mil ???

    Yes, if they know he isn’t coming back, they can go over the cap by a shade under $5.5M on a daily basis.

    With that said, they are currently just over $2M in to the LTIR relief and they only have $2.2M available.

    Don’t forget, players on regular IR (Yamamoto, Klefbom) still count against the cap so, as of now, we have 23 roster players, plus 2 on IR, plus Sekera on LTIR (plus a nominal amount buried in the AHL, plus buyouts).

    Given injuries will continue to occur so a buffer is needed (just like the normal course with the upper cap limit), there really isn’t all that much there.

  74. London Jon says:

    Oil2Oilers:
    The Oilers will not win the cup this year (or likely make the playoffs)

    The Oilers are unlikely to win the cup next year.

    Sad, but the play here is to stay the course this deadline, not chase the impossible dream.

    This summer it should be possible to trade from the position of most strength, LHD, for the one of most need #3C. Russell for a 3C with approx term and salary should be doable. This let’s McLeod develop in the AHL.

    I would not object to tradiing down for a player like Raphael Lavoie at the draft. Especially if it aides the removal of the Lucic contract.

    Of course reports today have the Oilers doing the opposite.

    Couldn’t agree more. Decisions need to be made on the basis of having the best possible roster and team over the next five years. Burning more assets to try and be marginally better in the short term would be absolute madness. That strategy has totally destroyed the roster and the overall assets that we have to manage the roster with for the next three years.

    DO NOT let this ‘brain trust’ (however it works) make any more moves.

  75. Glovjuice says:

    Alpine: Man, if there isn’t a better film to summarize the last decade plus of the Oilers. The 0% fertility rate represents the Decade of Darkness and the baby being born is McDavid. The next GM is gonna have to be Clive Owen levels of heroic to get this team out of its rut.

    This is fantastic

  76. London Jon says:

    littleenglish:
    The Charging Buffalo (@TheChargingBUF) Tweeted:
    .@FriedgeHNIC just said on NHL Network that Jesse Puljujarvi is available in Edmonton. They’re all in on making playoffs this year.

    #Oilers #Sabres #HockeyTwitter https://twitter.com/TheChargingBUF/status/1084955406647115776?s=17

    If we go ‘all in’ on making the playoffs this year, and we miraculously make it, we will lose in the first round because our best players will be absolutely wiped out and we will have burnt even more assets and have an even worse roster for the next two years.

    Put away the shovel!!!!!

  77. hunter1909 says:

    London Jon: DO NOT let this ‘brain trust’ (however it works) make any more moves.

    Oilers have a brain drain, not a brain trust.

  78. Pescador says:

    jtblack: Just imagine the GM meetings in Florida.I bet every GM tries to take PC out for dinner …..They are thinking “This guy traded for Griffin Reinhart ….and then Brandon Manning.” …. “Maybe he will take Player X from me …”

    The Oilers have long been a shopping destination of NHL GM’s
    It’s where you can get the most for the least.
    That’s why Tambo did nothing, he was offered a steady barrage of bad deals.
    Differece is Chiarelli has pulled the trigger

  79. OriginalPouzar says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    Lucic and McDavid for Tarasenko trade incoming!

    That also clears about $10M in cap space to……. sign Karlsson?

    McDavid and Lucic for Tarasenko and Karlsson?

  80. Bling says:

    OriginalPouzar: I think Katz is the one pushing for it……

    You are right on the last sentance – 2 years of doing nothing and the cap hell will alleviate (only Lucic would be left for anchor contracts), there would be a swarth of youngsters competing for jobs, McDavid/Drai/Nurse/Klef would be entering their primes, Bouchard will be ready to start to make an impact, there will be ELC value contracts.

    That’s without even trying to move some cap out in the interim (Manning, Russell, etc.).

    Trying to force something now could ruin that easy way out of cap hell.

    Katz is a real piece of work as well, then.

    Personally, I’m not terribly sympathetic to his plight.

    New Rule: If you want to run a sports franchise as a stomping ground for old friends, don’t whine when the team is a poorly managed mess and season ticket / box holders lose interest. If that costs you millions of dollars, well, maybe it should.

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    COL/TOR – COL now up 3-2 after two (and dominating the shot clock, to a tune of 31-13)
    MIN/PHI – PHI with a 5-3 lead, also after 2
    STL/WSH – STL with 3 straight and up 3-1 after 2.

  82. Professor Q says:

    Nuges Bank Account:
    Just in
    Mc David and Lucic for Tarasenko,Parayko and 2019 2nd round done.
    Waiting league approval
    There you go

    Don’t even joke. Please.

  83. Pescador says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    @TheChargingBuf


    .@FriedgeHNIC just said on NHL Network that Jesse Puljujarvi is available in Edmonton. They’re all in on making playoffs this year.

    #Oilers #Sabres #HockeyTwitter

    DSF DM’d me that Ferraro said on Vancouver radio “the plan in Edmonton is panic” and that they are trying to get Tarasenko.

    Hang on everyone, chances are this doesn’t end well.

    How do the Cap dollars work without Draisaitl?
    FUCK

  84. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yes, if they know he isn’t coming back, they can go over the cap by a shade under $5.5M on a daily basis.

    With that said, they are currently just over $2M in to the LTIR relief and they only have $2.2M available.

    Don’t forget, players on regular IR (Yamamoto, Klefbom) still count against the cap so, as of now, we have 23 roster players, plus 2 on IR, plus Sekera on LTIR (plus a nominal amount buried in the AHL, plus buyouts).

    Given injuries will continue to occur so a buffer is needed (just like the normal course with the upper cap limit), there really isn’t all that much there.

    Why didn’t Klefbom get put on LTIR?

  85. --hudson-- says:

    Continuing my exercise from earlier, comparing depth of even strength goal scoring between Buffalo and Edmonton.

    BUF 23 11 9 9 5 5 4 4 3 3 3 2
    EDM 21 17 10 9 4 3 2 2 2 1 1 0
    diff -2 6 1 0 -1 -2 -2 -2 -1 -2 -2 -2

    After the first 7 players on each respective depth chart, both teams have 66 goals for, then Buffalo starts to pull ahead.

    We have an elite 1st line, a below average 2nd line, and two 4th lines. We don’t need a Tarasenko, it seems we need a third line.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    Marner ties it up 6 min in to the 3rd.

  87. ArmchairGM says:

    While I’d like to see Katz #firethemall and hire competant managers, it not realistic to expect that to happen. Katz is the guy PUSHING the current management to make the playoffs at all costs. This isn’t Chiarelli’s idea nor the BOTB, because we all know they’re satisfied with mediocrity, as long as it’s their mediocrity. No, this panic-mode was brought on by a Katz tirade, now everybody is panicing because thiey now know that thier jobs are on the line if the team doesn’t make the playoffs.

  88. Scungilli Slushy says:

    The 80’s team ‘emotioned’ their way to a lot of what they did. I know that isn’t a word. In a much looser league with a ridiculously deep and talented team that worked, it doesn’t anymore. We see that sentiment coming from the top down still.

    The owner comes from a sales background. Putting the heat on to increase sales works in some industries, but in pro sports with such a long game it’s crippling.

    If he said playoffs or gone to start the season, at this point if it’s unclear either put the shackles on or move people out.

    It is obvious that more pressure will create desperation moves, and the chances of of a good result for the team are so low it’s not worth it.

    Unless they pull Tarasenko and Parayko out for a fair cost, doom.

    If you’re going to spend significant assets, much smarter to go after a much younger Ehlers come summer time.

    Hi Oilers!!

    ??

  89. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: Why didn’t Klefbom get put on LTIR?

    At this point, it wouldn’t do anything because they have a couple million of LTIR space available and putting him on LTIR wouldn’t really help anyways and any additional cushion would be going away – we know he’s coming back.

  90. workaroundaccount says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    @TheChargingBuf


    .@FriedgeHNIC just said on NHL Network that Jesse Puljujarvi is available in Edmonton. They’re all in on making playoffs this year.

    #Oilers #Sabres #HockeyTwitter

    DSF DM’d me that Ferraro said on Vancouver radio “the plan in Edmonton is panic” and that they are trying to get Tarasenko.

    Hang on everyone, chances are this doesn’t end well.

    https://media.giphy.com/media/12XMGIWtrHBl5e/giphy.gif

  91. Glovjuice says:

    Jethro Tull: Best post ever.

    Thank you for the kind words.

  92. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    ArmchairGM,

    That’s a really good question, actually.

    I believe the injury has to have the player out of the line up for greater than one week, and (by memory) he went down on Dec 12… so it’s been a month and two days. Usually they can’t wait to retroactively LTIR a player to recapture the cap hit, so what gives?

    Any chance CapFriendly is wrong, or just hasn’t updated?

  93. Lowetide says:

    Good start for the Oilers.

  94. OriginalPouzar says:

    That is some of the worst goaltending possible.

    I could imagine if Talbot let that one in…

  95. Pretendergast says:

    Hard to win when you’re always behind early in games

  96. Lowetide says:

    Brodziak scored.

  97. OriginalPouzar says:

    Of note, notwithstanding the lines posted earlier, first shift for the 3rd line has Khaira at center, not Brodz – that’s good.

  98. Lowetide says:

    Kassian’s goal. My bad.

  99. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    But that ignores the daily accumulated cap hit that’s recaptured by putting Klefbom on LTIR in the interim.

    — EDIT: I forgot they have to max out the available salary to utilize the LTIR with respect to Klefbom (which they aren’t) so it would be a moot point anyways. Now I understand your point.

    ***KASS!!

  100. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big, big goal by the fourth line – massive goal.

    Lucky deflection but, with the breaks going the way they have been lately, we’ll take that.

  101. flyfish1168 says:

    Wow. hockey gods giving us a little puck love

  102. OriginalPouzar says:

    Entire fourth line on the score-sheet.

  103. Derek says:

    Woodguy v2.0: DSF DM’d me this on twitter:

    Please give Derek over at LT my thanks for the kind words.

    He’s @oceansidewebtv if you’re on twitter.

    Cheers! No twitter unfortunately.

    Shine on you crazy diamond.

  104. treevojo says:

    Baby Nuge

  105. Lowetide says:

    Nuge scored. Good lord.

  106. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    NUGE!

  107. Lowetide says:

    Derek: Cheers! No twitter unfortunately.

    Shine on you crazy diamond.

    He’s on here more than you! 🙂

  108. Zelepukin says:

    Is this Talbot appreciation night or something? Both first shots go in.

  109. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow, Nuge with a deflection and the Oilers lead.

    3 “interesting” goals early.

  110. treevojo says:

    Zack attack

  111. Lowetide says:

    Who the fuck are these guys?

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    What a pass by Rieder and Kass has two – what the heck.

    3G – zero points for McDavid or Drai.

  113. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Deja vu! Way to go Kass!

  114. Pretendergast says:

    Pretendergast:
    Hard to win when you’re always behind early in games

    Shut up stupid

  115. flyfish1168 says:

    Please a hat trick for Zack

  116. Zelepukin says:

    Skinner still needs to score 2, so this definitely isn’t over yet.

  117. flyfish1168 says:

    3 Oiler goals and Connor isn’t in on any.

  118. OriginalPouzar says:

    AVA take the lead somewhat late in the 3rd and the Blues extend their lead to 4-1 with 7 to go.

  119. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Lowetide:
    Who the fuck are these guys?

    Soon to be ex-Oilers?

  120. Professor Q says:

    Zelepukin:
    Skinner still needs to score 2, so this definitely isn’t over yet.

    I want McDavid to overtake him and Ovechkin anyway.

  121. OmJo says:

    This game will be an excuse to trade the first.

    Bitter sweet.

  122. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide:
    Who the fuck are these guys?

    How spicy is the Lowdown going to be tomorrow?

  123. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    ArmchairGM,

    That’s a really good question, actually.

    I believe the injury has to have the player out of the line up for greater than one week, and (by memory) he went down on Dec 12… so it’s been a month and two days.Usually they can’t wait to retroactively LTIR a player to recapture the cap hit, so what gives?

    Any chance CapFriendly is wrong, or just hasn’t updated?

    There is no accumulation of cap space to bank when they are over their adjusted cap accrual threshold, which will always be the case if a team is using LTIR relief. Putting Klefbom on LTIR, at any point during the time he has been out, would do nothing for our cap. Sure, if we wanted to acquire a $3M player now they could add Klef’s LTIR cushion but that would be very stupid considering its going away in a few weeks.

  124. geowal says:

    If JP gets traded, might be end of Oil in this household for s while, until the lady recovers from the devastation.

  125. Zelepukin says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: Soon to be ex-Oilers?

    Kassian’s value will never be higher after this game.

  126. Professor Q says:

    geowal:
    If JP gets traded, might be end of Oil in this household for s while, until the lady recovers from the devastation.

    I won’t be able to eat pizza anymore.

  127. OriginalPouzar says:

    Would have loved to see Jesse bury that – not sure that quick shot was the “right play” but it had a chance.

  128. Lowetide says:

    For The Athletic: The Edmonton Oilers appear to be mere hours from doing something overbold

    https://theathletic.com/767034/2019/01/14/lowetide-the-edmonton-oilers-appear-to-be-mere-hours-from-doing-something-overbold/

  129. --hudson-- says:

    This is exciting but also some terrible hockey.

  130. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Yeah I caught and edited myself just after I posted, but thanks for adding more detail/context.

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big PK save by Koskinen there – needed that.

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    AVA and STL both about to win with 3 goal leads in the dying minute.

    PHI up by 2 on the Wild with 7 to play.

  133. Oil2Oilers says:

    Lowetide:
    For The Athletic: The Edmonton Oilers appear to be mere hours from doing something overbold

    https://theathletic.com/767034/2019/01/14/lowetide-the-edmonton-oilers-appear-to-be-mere-hours-from-doing-something-overbold/

    Great article, but it is driving me to drink.

  134. jtblack says:

    Lowetide,

    the major RISK with some of these potential deals is what we have watched unfold with Lucic in real time …

    Schenn and Tarasenko are better than Lucic ever was , but both will soon be 28. Most likely on the downside of their offensive apex …

    Simmonds on the downside for sure …

    Kapanen might be the play .. on the upside …

  135. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another nice stop by Koskinen – perhaps he’s settling in – two plus saves in a row.

  136. geowal says:

    I guess this means Hitch has already given up on JP,?

  137. nelson88 says:

    What is up with the focus on the last two broadcasts? sports net feed on nhl center ice and almost unwatchable. Not a problem on the local broadcast? Really is 1970’s night

  138. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Zelepukin: Kassian’s value will never be higher after this game.

    I think that is the message he is trying to send to ownership right now.

  139. Professor Q says:

    jtblack:
    Lowetide,

    the major RISK with some of these potential deals is what we have watched unfold with Lucic in real time …

    Schenn and Tarasenko are better than Lucic ever was , but both will soon be 28.Most likely on the downside of their offensive apex …

    Simmonds on the downside for sure …

    Kapanen might be the play .. on the upside …

    No trades with the Leafs, please. They’re already laughing at us and forgetting their own DoD that enabled their success presently.

  140. OriginalPouzar says:

    Simmonds with 2 goals tonight so we really are going to use our 1st to acquire him……..

  141. tileguy says:

    Why is Rattie off the first line 12 minutes into the game? Does Hitchcock have some kind of “whose going meter”? Terrible coach.

  142. Slocanoil says:

    dessert1111,

    Bold

    Dicky94,

    +1
    Tks OP

  143. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    geowal:
    If JP gets traded, might be end of Oil in this household for s while, until the lady recovers from the devastation.

    Same at my house. Wife will watch a blowout loss just to get a chance to see the patented Jesse smile. Don’t even get me started about when the smile and the tongue show up at the same time.

  144. OriginalPouzar says:

    Aghhh, Chiasson back with McDavid – so sensical – sigh

  145. Zelepukin says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Simmonds with 2 goals tonight so we really are going to use our 1st to acquire him……..

    +JP. Whatever Chia trade idea you have, add someone unnecessary and you’re there.

  146. leadfarmer says:

    Hitch really fixed JP
    Why the hell didn’t they just leave him in the Ahl

  147. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    tileguy,

    Terrible coach is a stretch, to say the least.

  148. flyfish1168 says:

    Professor Q: No trades with the Leafs, please. They’re already laughing at us and forgetting their own DoD that enabled their success presently.

    Everything leaf is overrated. eastern media hype

  149. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    At least it’s not Kassian?

  150. flyfish1168 says:

    We are lucky to get out of this period ahead.

  151. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    leadfarmer:
    Hitch really fixed JP
    Why the hell didn’t they just leave him in the Ahl

    That was my preference as well. If we lose JP because of this I am going to be less than happy with Hitch.

  152. Professor Q says:

    The amount of bobbled pucks and falling Oilers, including Draisaitl and McDavid, is astonishing.

  153. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    3-2 Edmonton
    16-8 Buffalo shots
    25-11 Buffalo Corsi for 5-on-5

    Oilers played Sabres game and have a lead. They have to calm this game down.

  154. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q:
    OriginalPouzar,

    At least it’s not Kassian?

    Well, Kass is going tonight so he’ll probably get moved up there (the original premise with Chiasson).

  155. tileguy says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    tileguy,

    Terrible coach is a stretch, to say the least.

    I don’t like him.

  156. geowal says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: Same at my house. Wife will watch a blowout loss just to get a chance to see the patented Jesse smile. Don’t even get me started about when the smile and the tongue show up at the same time.

    Those very rare occasions when they actually interview him….look out!

  157. fishman says:

    On pace to give up close to 50 shots tonight. Don’t win many of those!

  158. Professor Q says:

    Watching the highlights of the Devils game, and damn.

    There sure have been a lot of skate goals lately, and not just in Oilers games.

  159. jtblack says:

    Lowetide:
    After One:

    3-2 Edmonton
    16-8 Buffalo shots
    25-11 Buffalo Corsi for 5-on-5

    Oilers played Sabres game and have a lead. They have to calm this game down.

    still at work. heading home now. Metrics don’t look good for Oilers even tho we are leading!

  160. Professor Q says:

    fishman:
    On pace to give up close to 50 shots tonight. Don’t win many of those!

    Where is Scrivens when you need him?

  161. --hudson-- says:

    tileguy:
    Why is Rattie off the first line 12 minutes into the game? Does Hitchcock have some kind of “whose going meter”? Terrible coach.

    I saw Rattie bad on the second Sabres goal. Haven’t looked at a replay since but that could’ve been it.

    Edit: https://streamable.com/e6two

  162. Oil2Oilers says:

    Rasmus Ristolainen was rumored to be available last summer, the Sabres would have been Oilers level foolish to trade him. He was as responsible for the Sabres poor performance as Taylor Hall was as an Oiler.

  163. who says:

    Wow.
    How many times can this team turn the puck over just inside their blueline? Or just outside the Sabres?
    If I see one more flip in (or out) picked off by a Sabres dman I am going to vomit!
    Hard plays please.

  164. OriginalPouzar says:

    –hudson–: I saw Rattie bad on the second Sabres goal.Haven’t looked at a replay since but that could’ve been it.

    Edit: https://streamable.com/e6two

    Poor defensive play by Rattie or not, I’m confident Chiasson on the top line is not a good idea for the team:

    McDavid and Chiasson have a GF% of 50% together and negative possession metrics.
    McDavid has a GF% of 58% away from Chiasson
    Chiasson has a GF% of 64% away from McDavid (in 252 minutes).

  165. Lowetide says:

    McDavid scored.

  166. treevojo says:

    Mcdynasty

  167. OriginalPouzar says:

    Really happy to see the coach go back to the McDavid/Chiasson combo to start the 2nd……

    Well, they score but I’m not sure it had much to do with the duo…….

  168. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    CONNOR MCBREAKAWAY!

  169. npanciroli says:

    McDavid lol. Also, ringing it around the boards so obviously isn’t working. Buffalo D pinch everything, hope Hitch can fix this.

  170. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice pass by Lucic to Kass for a hatty chance – nice shot by Kass but no goal

    What, is that 5 shots on net for Kass already?

  171. flyfish1168 says:

    Nice goal by Connor. Disappointed that refs didn’t have arms up, that was a blatant slash

  172. Dicky94 says:

    Professor Q,

    Selling Oiler jerseys online that he accumulated picking off the ice during his time as an Oiler.

  173. OriginalPouzar says:

    I think the game still moves pretty fast for Puljujarvi – hasn’t slowed down for him yet – he’s still so rushed out there (the fast breakaway, that play on that shift X2).

  174. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    tileguy,

    He’s hands down the best coach our team has had since Slats.

  175. treevojo says:

    The lucic

  176. Lowetide says:

    Lucic scored. This is the end.

  177. Dicky94 says:

    McDavid still have the flu?

  178. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice stretch pass there by Chiasson to McDavid and some crazy good passing after for a great Jones chance – can’t bury it though – maybe he shouldn’t have used the Eberle-dust off.

  179. npanciroli says:

    Rofl

  180. Pescador says:

    I better check the liquor
    I’m hallucinating

  181. npanciroli says:

    Trade him while he’s hot!

  182. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lucic scores – as I said, 2G and 1A prior to the all-star break.

    If he didn’t have his assist stolen away from him last game, he’d be 2/3 of the way there.

  183. Zelepukin says:

    Lowetide:
    Lucic scored. This is the end.

    SELL SELL SELL

  184. Oilin4 says:

    This is officially Bizarro night

  185. geowal says:

    $2,000,000 goal !!!!

  186. leadfarmer says:

    His value will never be higher. Sell

  187. New Improved Darkness says:

    Never for a minute did I assume that Chia would automatically turn out better than Lowe, Tambi, or MacT. I had no Chia honeymoon. And then, my short non-honeymoon took a very cold shower under the Lucic contract, which gave me the chills instantly.

    Never for a minute will I assume that the next GM will be automatically better than Chia, either. Whoever he is, he’ll have some hellacious problems to solve. Might get the answer right, and then again he might not. Cold rhymes with bold.

    Two years of lukewarm Tambi 2.0 might rinse enough stink off the books for someone to come in and finally do something right. Depressing thought.

    I do suspect the scouting is now better than it was before, and that help really is on the way (while Connor’s window slowly weeps). That’s really the only long-term exit from this perpetual ditch.

    Note that for a team that’s only cleared low-mediocre once in the past decade, we sure do talk about Window a lot.

    If it were me, I’d probably mace Window. Definitely the common thread, in my own mind.

    Especially when you open a window, bold rhymes with cold.

    Fuck Connor’s window. Get good players, keep good players, and own the draft. Amen.

  188. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Dicky94,

    You could say he flu the coop on his last goal 😉

  189. Oilin4 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I think the game still moves pretty fast for Puljujarvi – hasn’t slowed down for him yet – he’s still so rushed out there (the fast breakaway, that play on that shift X2).

    I wonder if the language barrier is slowing his development. Coaches may struggle to explain how to improve from mistakes or less than ideal plays.

  190. leadfarmer says:

    Coaches don’t like games like this
    Why is that
    I’d be pretty happy if I was Hitch that I’m winning and some of these guys scored

  191. Dicky94 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    Gene would be proud.

  192. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    First of all, Buffalo needs to make their backup goalie the starter. Hutton is terrible. And I realize they are in the east but didn’t they get the message back there that backup goalies kill this team?

  193. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Dicky94,

    Phew, I didn’t think I’d be able to pullet off.

    *I’ll get my coat!

  194. OriginalPouzar says:

    New Improved Darkness:

    Never for a minute will I assume that the next GM will be automatically better than Chia, either. Whoever he is, he’ll have some hellacious problems to solve. Might get the answer right, and then again he might not. Cold rhymes with bold.

    There is one hellacious problem, Lucic’s contract.

    Do nothing further egregious and cap hell is gone within 2 year as Lucic is the only anchor contract that goes beyond 2 more years.

    Couple that with McDavid, Drai, Nurse, Klef being in their primes (some just entering) in two years.

    Add in a guy like Bouchard likely just ready to make a real impact.

    Remember the swarth of prospects that are on the cusp of NHL readiness and the plus prospects turing prime next year – add in some ELC value contracts.

    There is any easy way out, it will take a short period of time.

  195. tileguy says:

    –hudson–: I saw Rattie bad on the second Sabres goal.Haven’t looked at a replay since but that could’ve been it.

    Edit: https://streamable.com/e6two

    Rattie did nothing wrong there, just Hitchcock bias I think.

  196. flyfish1168 says:

    Nice shift by JP. The ref could have called Bogosian for holding JP stick

  197. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers score another 2-3 goals and we’ll really be able to enjoy the game.

  198. leadfarmer says:

    Oilin4: I wonder if the language barrier is slowing his development. Coaches may struggle to explain how to improve from mistakes or less than ideal plays.

    He should have been in the Ahl.
    Probably would get much better offer for a 20 year old ppg Ahl player than a 15 point Nhler
    Hitch going yeah I can fix him when guys that have been working with him for years decided that he needed Ahl time was a piece of stupidity that is well So Oilers

  199. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow, that was a corner battle…..

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