Game 47 2018-19: Oilers at Canucks

There are four forwards who are over 1.50 points-per-60 at 5-on-5 since Ken Hitchcock arrived in Edmonton. One of them is Jujhar Khaira. The addition of Colby Cave via waivers may allow Khaira to rejoin the line (with Nuge and Jesse Puljujarvi) that seemed to have substantial chem a few weeks ago. The Cave addition received a surprising amount of negative reaction, for me it’s exactly the kind of deal fans should be pleased the Oilers are pursuing. This isn’t a Stanley Cup team. The Oilers aren’t one final piece from locking in as a strong contender. Miles away.

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OILERS AFTER 47

  • Oilers in 2015: 19-23-5, 43 points; goal differential -22
  • Oilers in 2016: 25-15-7, 57 points; goal differential +7
  • Oilers in 2017: 21-23-3, 45 points; goal differential -24
  • Oilers in 2018: 22-21-3, 47 points; goal differential -7

The 2018 McDavid Oilers remain unique in this set of four, boasting the second best goal differential and point total, while still standing (as of this morning) just outside the playoffs.

OILERS IN JANUARY

  • Oilers in January 2016: 4-2-2, 10 points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in January 2017: 5-3-0, 10 points; goal differential 0
  • Oilers in January 2018: 4-4-0, eight points; goal differential -8
  • Oilers in January 2019: 4-3-0, eight points; goal differential 0

January each season tracks in a similar way, at least through the middle of the month. These games had little importance in 2016, and the club was rolling in 2017. This year is somewhat unique, in that the period in Oilers history we’re living through now involves games that matter every night. In January. Over the last dozen years, that’s rare.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM JANUARY

  • On the road to: Arizona, Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected 2-2-0) (Actual 2-2-0)
  • At home to: Florida, Arizona, Buffalo (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Calgary, Carolina, Detroit (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 4-5-2, 10 points in 11 games
  • Current results: 4-3-0, eight points in seven games

I have tonight as a loss, the Oilers haven’t played well this season against the Canucks (two losses, 4-8 goals) and the Canucks defend McDavid in all three zones. We’ll see if things change. Sometimes another team has your number and it’s difficult to find a way around it. In the last game, the Canucks blew the doors off with four goals in the first period, including two in the last couple of minutes in the period.

OILERS FORWARDS 5-ON-5 PTS/60 SINCE HITCHCOCK ARRIVED

There are 372 NHL forwards who have played 139 or more 5-on-5 minutes since Ken Hitchcock was hired. That’s the number of forwards who dress for the 31 teams in total for a game (31×12=372). We’re always talking about No. 1 centers and third line players, where do the current Oilers rank? Here we go:

This is all via Natural Stat Trick. There’s no real benefit from this exercise, but if someone says “Nuge is a third line center” you can go about your business secure in the knowledge they’re a nut job. Colby Cave is right where Kyle Brodziak lives (0.81).

CURRENT 50-MAN

All of these waiver pickups and trades are adding to the 50-man list for next season. What does that mean? The RFA’s on this list are going to get squeezed. Edmonton will likely sign Ryan McLeod in the coming days, along with Filip Berglund, Hayden Hawkey and others possibly turning pro. What does that mean for the RFA’s (asterisks)? Edmonton needs more room, ideally they find more by the end of the deadline by sending some of these contracts out.

COLBY CAVE

I had Cave ranked No. 81 in 2014, liked his underlying numbers and a scouting report that suggested a range of skills (I had Ondrej Kase No. 60 btw). I hope it allows Khaira to move over and play LW, but Cave is a No. 4 center, that’s Brodziak’s job. I think we could see another center in town by the deadline.

GOALIES

Oilers moved Stuart Skinner to Bakersfield and Dylan Wells to Wichita (people train runs through Stubbville, though) yesterday, a small shuffle but important to each man’s development. Shane Starrett has taken over the starting role for the Condors recently, Wells was in that role not so long ago. Al Montoya is a distant bell now, hasn’t played since the end of November.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning on the show, starts at 10, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal. The game tonight, the trade deadline to come and young Puljujarvi’s future.
  • Jon Campbell, OddsShark. We’ll talk NFL weekend, McDavid Art Ross and the crazy race for the final spot in the Western Conference of the NHL.
  • Dan Ralph, The Canadian Press. The Roughriders have no head coach and it’s damned near February.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Ice Sage says:

    Short lived. Canucks PP owns the Oil

  2. little.fiery.one says:

    Leon looked bad on that play, standing in no-mans-land.

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    ARI getting outshot 8-3 but down 2-0.

  4. Gerta Rauss says:

    I think that went off Brodziak’s leg

  5. godot10 says:

    The good times didn’t last long enough for me to return from the bathroom.

    Let me pee dammit.

  6. Halfwise says:

    Cave looks like Dave Hunter out there.

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sharks get one back – 2-1 ARI still in the 1st.

  8. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Nice to see Sutter make it. I watched him a lot when he played for the Abbotsford Heat. Never thought he would have the offence.

  9. OriginalPouzar says:

    Geez, lots of close calls around the Oiler net – need to tighten up….

  10. godot10 says:

    Suntory Hanzo:
    Nice to see Sutter make it. I watched him a lot when he played for the Abbotsford Heat. Never thought he would have the offence.

    I think you are confusing Sutter’s.

  11. Professor Q says:

    How was that not a slash on Chiasson?

    Oh. Because Edmonton is already on a Power Play.

  12. Professor Q says:

    That is a very interesting PP Line.

    Manning to Yamamoto to Lucic. They all miss their targets a bit.

  13. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yet another close chance around the Oiler net – the Oilers are lucky they haven’t given up 3-4 goals.

  14. OriginalPouzar says:

    And another – this time Koskinen made a big save.

    Nucks have missed/fumbled 4 pucks that were almost gimmes.

    Geez, tighten up.

  15. drglen says:

    play some defense please

  16. leadfarmer says:

    We got the Corgis but man does Hitch have us playing like molasses

  17. Gerta Rauss says:

    I’m back to closing my eyes when the Canucks enter the Oilers zone

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers are also losing the physical battle – taken some solid hits.

  19. Professor Q says:

    Lucic rag dolls Leivo for being the second Canuck to interfere with Koskinen post-save (by Russell), then taps his stick on Leivo’s helmet without anyone noticing.

    This game could get very spicy. Already getting heartburn from the multitude of chances aforementioned by Original Pouzar.

  20. Lowetide says:

    McDavid scored

  21. treevojo says:

    Mcamazing

  22. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    What… a… shot… wow

  23. flyfish1168 says:

    More Mcdavid points.

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    Connor was tired of the PP set so decided just to score a quick one of a non-rush.

    Wow!

  25. Pretendergast says:

    I agree Connor, just do it yourself

  26. jp says:

    Nice shot captain. Good to get the lead.

  27. Gerta Rauss says:

    oh mercy

  28. Professor Q says:

    I think that’s the first time that I’ve seen Edmonton pass to the slot while they’ve congested it, during a PP, all year.

    Still too many passes to the boards and blueline, though.

  29. Lowetide says:

    Rieder can’t buy a thrill.

  30. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice try by Rieder there…..

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    I would say the Oilers are lucky not to be down a couple let alone up 1.

    I guess the Oil did have some solid chances that didn’t go in but the Canucks had like 3-4 looks at empty nets where they didn’t manage to score.

    Need to play better in the last 40.

  32. JimmyV1965 says:

    Best period of hockey we’ve played in a month. Now we just need our goalie to keep us in the game.

  33. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide:
    Rieder can’t buy a thrill.

    I grew up actually loving the taste of Thrill gum.

  34. leadfarmer says:

    Here is an interview with Rieder about when he will score
    https://youtu.be/wx_ZNn-_klk

  35. McSorley33 says:

    Even the Canucks crew seemed to be cheering for Rieder there…..

  36. Lowetide says:

    After One:

    Oilers 2 Vancouver 1
    Shots 11-5 Edmonton
    Corsi 5-on-5 16-12 Edmonton

    Canucks got two penalties could have taken five. Some fabulous moments by Koskinen and a little wobble by the blue here and there. That said, a pleasing road period.

  37. tileguy says:

    Professor Q: I grew up actually loving the taste of Thrill gum.

    Wasn’t that the one that tasted like soap?

  38. OriginalPouzar says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Best period of hockey we’ve played in a month. Now we just need our goalie to keep us in the game.

    Wait, really?

    I vehemently disagree – they leaked and leaked and leaked that period. The Canucks bungled 3 or 4 looks at empty nets. That was a very poor period of hockey by the Oilers.

  39. docweb says:

    The same. 15 cents a pack at the corner store

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    After One:

    Oilers 2 Vancouver 1
    Shots 11-5 Edmonton
    Corsi 5-on-5 16-12 Edmonton

    Canucks got two penalties could have taken five. Some fabulous moments by Koskinen and a little wobble by the blue here and there. That said, a pleasing road period.

    Seems like I’m in the minority – am I imagining the looks the canucks had at empty nets?

  41. Gerta Rauss says:

    OriginalPouzar: Seems like I’m in the minority – am I imagining the looks the canucks had at empty nets?

    try closing your eyes when the Canucks enter the offensive zone-I didn’t see nuthin’

  42. Lowetide says:

    OriginalPouzar: Seems like I’m in the minority – am I imagining the looks the canucks had at empty nets?

    Definitely got caught on the stretch passes, but the pick on Jones has to be called and there was some holding by Vancouver in other areas. I saw an open net missed by a mile, but Rieder had a breakaway. It’s no Rembrandt, I’ll agree with you there.

  43. Chief Inspector says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Gerta Rauss: try closing your eyes when the Canucks enter the offensive zone-I didn’t see nuthin’

    Dodged multiple bullets. Fortunate to be in the lead. When did the Canucks become as dirty as the Ducks?

  44. jp says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Best period of hockey we’ve played in a month. Now we just need our goalie to keep us in the game.

    OriginalPouzar: Wait, really?

    I vehemently disagree – they leaked and leaked and leaked that period.The Canucks bungled 3 or 4 looks at empty nets. That was a very poor period of hockey by the Oilers.

    Low bar?

  45. drglen says:

    we are kinda lucky.

    Heck of a shot.

    haven’t heard anything bad about Cave? Just on radio here.. seems OK?

  46. OriginalPouzar says:

    Currie from Benson and Marody – yes again – and the Condors re-take the lead.

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice shift by the 3/4 line – Cave almost buries one.

  48. Gerta Rauss says:

    Nick Cave with a 10 bell chance-swell pass from that Manning scrub

  49. jp says:

    drglen:

    haven’t heard anything bad about Cave?Just on radio here.. seems OK?

    Just had a great chance.

    I don’t recall anything good or bad before that. Played 3:21 in the 1st.

  50. drglen says:

    an informal glance at the NHL.com time on ice stats, our big three plus chaisonn, almost 3 to 1 time on ice vs rest of team.

  51. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: Wait, really?

    I vehemently disagree – they leaked and leaked and leaked that period.The Canucks bungled 3 or 4 looks at empty nets. That was a very poor period of hockey by the Oilers.

    Yeah that was an ugly period

  52. Professor Q says:

    tileguy: Wasn’t that the one that tasted like soap?

    Yes, funnily enough.

  53. drglen says:

    cmon yamo , at least get a shot.

  54. OriginalPouzar says:

    Coyotes extend their lead to 3-1 5 min in to the 2nd.

  55. Suntory Hanzo says:

    godot10: I think you are confusing Sutter’s.

    Right. It was Brett Sutter. Good call.

  56. Lowetide says:

    Nice pass by Yamamoto there.

  57. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great rush and pass there by Yamamoto – looked quicker than I’ve seen him.

  58. Gerta Rauss says:

    more keystone kops and it’s 2-2

  59. drglen says:

    damn, lucky bounce …

  60. Lowetide says:

    Our man Caleb looks to have sent the puck into the slot.

  61. OriginalPouzar says:

    A giveaway by the D behind our net and the puck is in our net for a tie game – I think that was Larsson.

  62. Gerta Rauss says:

    when the Oilers give up a chance it’s a doozy….

  63. emonkee says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Itz caleb

  64. drglen says:

    Ok Nurse russell the rest of the way. Jones Lsarsson have the yips I think.

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    Now 4-1 ARI – things could tighter up a bit more – ARI was on the verge of being left in the tier below the suck tier.

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    12 min in to the second period and the Canucks have 7 shots (and 2 goals).

    That doesn’t really accurately describe the Oilers team defensive play in my opinion.

  67. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ooop, Sharks get that one back, down 4-2.

  68. Lowetide says:

    Jones is having a tough game.

  69. ashley says:

    Why can’t the defense hit the net? So much hard work goes into setting up a point shot. At least get it on net.

  70. Gerta Rauss says:

    Mr Mott draws a penalty- another PK upcoming

    “I gotta bad feeling about this”

    -Han Solo

  71. drglen says:

    bah

  72. Gerta Rauss says:

    ffs

  73. OriginalPouzar says:

    Darnell should not have taken that PIM, not necessary – Koskinen needs to make that stop -short side goal

  74. Lowetide says:

    3-2 Van, another power-play goal. Oilers need to stay out of the box in the third period. The game is there at 5-on-5.

  75. OriginalPouzar says:

    They better be right on this offside challenge – can’t go shorthanded for a third straight time and down a goal.

    Big challenge.

  76. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers are going to lose this, I have no doubt, Too much experience, ha ha I’m done.

  77. little.fiery.one says:

    Lowetide:
    3-2 Van, another power-play goal. Oilers need to stay out of the box in the third period. The game is there at 5-on-5.

    It would be nice for penalties committed by the Nucks to also be called.

  78. Gerta Rauss says:

    whew

  79. Pretendergast says:

    Good call Hitch

  80. hags9k says:

    What really drives me nuts is the vigor and enthusiasm with which the refs arm went up on the penalty. Like fuck off. Fuck right off.

    Offside, cheatin bastards.

  81. drglen says:

    yay no goal.

  82. Lowetide says:

    Hitch challenges and wins. Love that guy.

  83. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow – big challenge win.

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    Currie with the hatrick, once again, assisted by Benson and Marody – their 2nd on the PP (3rd PP goal total tonight).

  85. Ryan says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Wow – big challenge win.

    Hitch is the king of coach’s challenge.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    Brodziak did great work on that PK.

  87. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well, we got a reprieve from the governor

    Gonna need more from everyone to win this thing

  88. JimmyV1965 says:

    One time it would be nice to get more PPs than the other team. Rousell did the exact same cross check to McDavid in the first period, but after the whistle. No penalty called. Nurse gets a penalty.

  89. Caller Zen says:

    Great challenge – but I’m wondering if on plays like that, does Hitch have this amazing short term memory, or is he getting word from the upstairs crew watching the game for exactly this sort of thing?

  90. hags9k says:

    ashley:
    Why can’t the defense hit the net?So much hard work goes into setting up a point shot.At least get it on net.

    This has been one of the most frustrating parts of the last decade plus.

    I know it’s tough to get shots through and sometimes they have to play it wide but I also know they have open looks and pump it wide many many many times.

  91. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-2 tie (1-0 Van in the second)
    Shots 18-11 Edmonton (6-6 in the second)
    Corsi 5-on-5: 31-21 Edmonton (14-19 Edmonton in the second)

    Fun game, I’d rate it fairly even. Edmonton is tied going into the third period. It’s there for them, but the Canucks are a good hockey club.

  92. Ryan says:

    Caller Zen:
    Great challenge – but I’m wondering if on plays like that, does Hitch have this amazing short term memory, or is he getting word from the upstairs crew watching the game for exactly this sort of thing?

    Fair question. I feel like Tmac was either oblivious or too proud to call a coach’s challenge on a play like this.

    Hitch is the King of these challenges.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    emonkee,

    Thanks

  94. Gerta Rauss says:

    Caller Zen:
    Great challenge – but I’m wondering if on plays like that, does Hitch have this amazing short term memory, or is he getting word from the upstairs crew watching the game for exactly this sort of thing?

    I’m fairly certain they’ve got someone watching the zone entries and calling the bench if needed

    I think most teams do

  95. Pretendergast says:

    Lindholm mugs a guy in front to no call, provides the screen to tie the game for the lames

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lowetide:
    Jones is having a tough game.

    I can’t wait until Klef is back and he can play some nice 3rd pairing minutes – could develop well with some proper deployment.

  97. Ryan says:

    For the tire fire that the Sens are considered… they generally draft quite well.

    Guys here salivate over the prospect of trading for Mark Stone piss cutter extraordinarie… 6th round pick by Ottawa.

    Look at Ottawa’s 2015 and try not to throw up in your mouth.

    Imagine if the Oilers ever hit a home run like that.

    We celebrate when we find a bottom sixer in the third round.

  98. tileguy says:

    Please, let us not make Hitchcock into the seeing all, knowing all coach, he was notified from upstairs to challenge the play.

  99. Caller Zen says:

    Gerta Rauss: I’m fairly certain they’ve got someone watching the zone entries and calling the bench if needed

    I think most teams do

    Yeah, seems like only one dedicated watcher is needed. But it does seem like Hitch challenges as much in his first 30 some games as much as Tmac over 3 plus seasons.

  100. OriginalPouzar says:

    Caller Zen:
    Great challenge – but I’m wondering if on plays like that, does Hitch have this amazing short term memory, or is he getting word from the upstairs crew watching the game for exactly this sort of thing?

    They have ipads and video on the bench and I’m sure their video team is looking at those plays all game long.

  101. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Caller Zen,

    TMAC liked to save the timeout for a breather with 7 seconds left when down by 3..

  102. danny says:

    If I were a billionaire owner?

    I’d hire a reputable and knowledgeable firm to review the season.

    I’d identify a lot of shit, but primarily, I’d review the non-call shite that happens to 97 on a daily basis.

    I’d privately hlite the daily infractions hit-list to the NHL brass, and let them decide if they wanted to address the issue or let the public decide.

  103. Ryan says:

    Caller Zen: Yeah, seems like only one dedicated watcher is needed. But it does seem like Hitch challenges as much in his first 30 some games as much as Tmac over 3 plus seasons.

    Did Tmac ever win a challenge?

    Asking for a friend.

  104. Glovjuice says:

    Lowetide:
    After Two:

    2-2 tie (1-0 Van in the second)
    Shots 18-11 Edmonton (6-6 in the second)
    Corsi 5-on-5: 31-21 Edmonton (14-19 Edmonton in the second)

    Fun game, I’d rate it fairly even. Edmonton is tied going into the third period. It’s there for them, but the Canucks are a good hockey club.

    It’s come to the Oilers are neck and neck in a game with the Canucks and this group here is sort of all expecting / accepting it as it is what it is – this is us sort of thing. This is fucked. Totally fucked.

  105. ashley says:

    Wasn’t Stecher one of our minor league players? And Oesterle. It seems like we had the answers to our current problems.

  106. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Glovjuice: It’s come to the Oilers are neck and neck in a game with the Canucks and this group here is sort of all expecting / accepting it as it is what it is – this is us sort of thing. This is fucked. Totally fucked.

    Exactly. A team in year 2 of a rebuild and a team in like year 15.

  107. Lowetide says:

    Nice save by Koskinen there.

  108. digger50 says:

    3 meters of Koskinen

    Man, this is a big period

  109. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: I can’t wait until Klef is back and he can play some nice 3rd pairing minutes – could develop well with some proper deployment.

    He should have been sent down at the first minor signs of the call up bump occurring.

  110. Lowetide says:

    ashley:
    Wasn’t Stecher one of our minor league players?And Oesterle.It seems like we had the answers to our current problems.

    Stecher was pursued by Edmonton but he went to Vancouver.

  111. ashley says:

    Kassian still can’t seem to understand how to break out the puck. As soon as it even looks like we are going to get possession in the Dzone, he skates North away from the puck making the pass a 50:50 puck at best if it comes. He’s in such a rush to get to the O blue line before anyone else.

    Skate back toward the puck, Zack. It’s a simple game in a lot of ways.

  112. Gerta Rauss says:

    Koski with a nice save after Baerctschi deked every Oiler on the ice lol

  113. ashley says:

    Lowetide: Stecher was pursued by Edmonton but he went to Vancouver.

    I must be thinking of someone else with a similiar name.

  114. OriginalPouzar says:

    Glovjuice: It’s come to the Oilers are neck and neck in a game with the Canucks and this group here is sort of all expecting / accepting it as it is what it is – this is us sort of thing. This is fucked. Totally fucked.

    This is the NHL – any team can beat any other team on any given night.

    I hear how shitty we are – we just beat BUF 7-2.

    I hear the flames are a top contender for the cup – they just lost to BUF.

    We are fighting with COL – they just lost to OTT.

    We are fighting with MIN – they just lost to DET.

  115. Glovjuice says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: Exactly. A team in year 2 of a rebuild and a team in like year 15.

    It’s fucked. Totally fucked. We had 1, 16, 33, Drai, Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Klef, Nurse, Yak.

  116. OriginalPouzar says:

    ashley:
    Wasn’t Stecher one of our minor league players?And Oesterle.It seems like we had the answers to our current problems.

    No Stecher wasn’t.

    Osterle is playing 3rd pairing minutes for ANA – all his metrics are negative including his relative metrics.

  117. digger50 says:

    ashley: I must be thinking of someone else with a similiar name.

    We do need to steal this summers best college grad.

    Full court press and all that.

  118. Caller Zen says:

    Ryan: Did Tmac ever win a challenge?

    Asking for a friend.

    hahah… I dug up this one – against LA back in February …the Oilers up 4-1, but LA scored a few quick ones late in the game to tie it, but the 4th goal was called goalie interference.
    https://www.nhl.com/news/edmonton-oilers-los-angeles-kings-game-recap/c-296324624

  119. Gerta Rauss says:

    missed opportunity on that PP

  120. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: This is the NHL – any team can beat any other team on any given night.

    I hear how shitty we are – we just beat BUF 7-2.

    I hear the flames are a top contender for the cup – they just lost to BUF.

    We are fighting with COL – they just lost to OTT.

    We are fighting with MIN – they just lost to DET.

    One playoff year in 13. Is that enough “sample size” for you. Ok, right, we are only two points out of the wild card or whatever (which would have your reply for sure) – so, I retract – one in the last 12.

  121. OriginalPouzar says:

    Entertaining hockey game – a big game, tied in the 3rd period.

    Of course, instead of focusing on the game and enjoying in people could chose to worry that we aren’t easily beating our opponent and think about listing assets the team once had – I mean, that’s never been discussed when a game isn’t on….

  122. digger50 says:

    OriginalPouzar: No Stecher wasn’t.

    Osterle is playing 3rd pairing minutes for ANA – all his metrics are negative including his relative metrics.

    He looked good the other night. I think he can hold an NHL job for a while. He was not a large loss to the Oil, likely he would have got some more games here but his contract was up and he felt he had a better shot if he moved.

  123. OriginalPouzar says:

    Glovjuice: One playoff year in 13. Is that enough “sample size” for you. Ok, right, we are only two points out of the wild card or whatever (which would have your reply for sure) – so, I retract – one in the last 12.

    I don’t care about the last 12 years – I care about the hockey game that’s on my screen right now an this season – feel free to focus on the past – I’m going to enjoy the current and think about the way forward.

  124. ashley says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Entertaining hockey game – a big game, tied in the 3rd period.

    Of course, instead of focusing on the game and enjoying in people could chose to worry that we aren’t easily beating our opponent and think about listing assets the team once had – I mean, that’s never been discussed when a game isn’t on….

    Uncharacteristically grumpy, OP. 😉

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    ashley: Uncharacteristically grumpy, OP.

    This is late for me. I wake up at 2:05am.

    I had decided tomorrow was my one day a month off the gym and I’d sleep until 5am and just do 45 min of light cardio at home but, eff it, I want to get a good lift in and I have to wake up in 3 hours and 37 minutes – well, I don’t have to, I choose to.

  126. digger50 says:

    I’m on edge

    Seems a turning point. One playoff spot please.

  127. ashley says:

    OriginalPouzar: This is late for me.I wake up at 2:05am.

    I had decided tomorrow was my one day a month off thegym and I’d sleep until 5am and just do 45 min of light cardio at home but, eff it, I want to get a good lift in and I have to wake up in 3 hours and 37 minutes – well, I don’t have to, I choose to.

    Ah, I see. Hopefully the boys can pull out a win to ease your pain and fatigue.

  128. Ryan says:

    Must be weird for the Canucks to play Edmonton.

    Imagine if you’re a fringe Canuck and you have a chance to blow up Matt. What do you do?

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sharks cut the lead to one goal – just a few to go in the third though.

  130. digger50 says:

    Christ, late hit by a mile

  131. Ryan says:

    Caller Zen: hahah… I dug up this one – against LA back in February …the Oilers up 4-1, but LA scored a few quick ones late in the game to tie it, but the 4th goal was called goalie interference.
    https://www.nhl.com/news/edmonton-oilers-los-angeles-kings-game-recap/c-296324624

    Nicely done!

  132. Gerta Rauss says:

    omg-Virtanen in alone

    that woulda been something

    and not a good something

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nope, Sharks take a penalty and the Yotes finish them off.

  134. npanciroli says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    That bounce felt so Oilers.

  135. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    Manning has played how many minutes tonight and one of them is the last one of a tied game …?

  136. Caller Zen says:

    I like Drai in overtime!

  137. docweb says:

    Looch and Manning out in last 45. Nice

  138. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oh, Russell, you’ve got to bury that…

  139. little.fiery.one says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Oh, Russell, you’ve got to bury that…

    Russel, all is forgiven

  140. Gerta Rauss says:

    fun OT-everything but the kitchen sink

  141. Pretendergast says:

    i think Edler took 4 separate interference calls in that overtime

  142. digger50 says:

    Nice to see Khaira work his way up into overtime shifts. Never seen that coming three years ago.

  143. docweb says:

    Man, a healthy Sekera instead of Nurse in OT would be sweet

  144. Gerta Rauss says:

    filthy save on Nuge in the shootout ffs

  145. little.fiery.one says:

    Pretendergast:
    i think Edler took 4 separate interference calls in that overtime

    Just grab McDavid by the waist and ride him around the rink. Wheeeeeee….

  146. Gerta Rauss says:

    I think OP’s alarm is going to go off before this shootout is over

  147. little.fiery.one says:

    Our lack of depth in skill may haunt us here.

  148. little.fiery.one says:

    little.fiery.one:
    Our lack of depth in skill may haunt us here.

    As if it hasn’t been haunting us all damn year.

  149. Ryan says:

    Cmon chaser

  150. Gerta Rauss says:

    hehe….Chiasson in round 5 wins it

    big 2 points

    suck it Vancouver

  151. russ99 says:

    I hate these long shootouts. Come on Oil!

  152. russ99 says:

    Wooooooooo!

  153. Ryan says:

    russ99:
    Wooooooooo!

    I knew Chaser had this!

    That was exciting.

  154. OriginalPouzar says:

    Atta boy Chiasson.

  155. Gerta Rauss says:

    It wasn’t pretty but it’s 2 points in the bank

    Bring on the Flames

  156. russ99 says:

    Beat Calgary and don’t make a dumb trade and I’ll feel a lot better about this team.

  157. npanciroli says:

    russ99,

    Might be 0/2 on this after the weekend unfortunately.

  158. digger50 says:

    Happy to focus on the win.

    That late hit on Jones I thought was dirty and Oil would have answered if the game wasn’t on the line. Hope he’s okay

  159. Ivan says:

    Halfwise:
    Cave looks like Dave Hunter out there.

    YES! I said the exact same thing. We can hope!

  160. SwedishPoster says:

    2 points!
    That was one of the most casual games I’ve seen in a long time, from both teams. Everything from the Khaira goal, the reffing, the let’s not bother power plays, the backchecking, the general lack of sharpness in the offensive zone, Drai’s ot breakaway, even Hitch’s coaching just seemed to be done without any kind of focus. To be fair this seems to be a theme around the league currently. Lot of teams waiting for the all star break. Good opportunity to harvest some cheap points with a little extra effort. These two points was not a good template for that extra effort though, just one team mailing it in a little bit better than the other during the shootout.
    The OT was exciting though. Nice play by Nurse, good time in the game to finally befriend the puck.

  161. SwedishPoster says:

    Ivan: YES! I said the exact same thing. We can hope!

    He also looks like he murders people in his spare time.

  162. oilersfan says:

    The oilers are now 4-2 since Russell is back in the lineup

    2-7-1 with Hitch and no Russell

    I don’t think that is a coincidence.

    13-4 with Hitch as coach and Russell in the lineup.

    Not saying he is a top pairing D but he is a proven NHL dman in a top four role.

    Any word on Caleb?

  163. Wilde says:

    I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win.

  164. Wilde says:

    oilersfan:

    The oilers are now 4-2 since Russell is back in the lineup

    2-7-1 with Hitch and no Russell

    I don’t think that is a coincidence.

    13-4 with Hitch as coach and Russell in the lineup.

    Not saying he is a top pairing D but he is a proven NHL dman in a top four role.

    Any word on Caleb?

    I rate Russell higher than most who share similar evaluative methods to myself, but I feel like this is oversimplifying.

    The main issue was with what Russell was replaced with. Just because the Oilers had to roll out some absolutely putrid groups of defencemen without him doesn’t mean he’s a better player, just that his replacements are so bad that they drive the gap between the team with Russell and without Russell further than it would be if Russell was replaced by a reasonably competent #5 D.

  165. oilersfan says:

    Wild I agree, but it shows with mediocre nhl Dmen the oilers are an a ok team

    Not awesome, ok. But with a bunch of ahl Dmen we are the worst team in the league

    Manning was on for the last shift of regulation because nurse had played over a minute with Russell and Jones was out

    Any word on jones? I wonder if he has a concussion . That was a dirty hit by gudbranson

  166. oilersfan says:

    Just watched the 3 minute post game interviews and none of those bone headed reporters even asked about Jones’ health after him leaving the bench short a dman in the third and him not playing in overtime…

    Do these reporters even watch the game let alone understand it?

  167. rickithebear says:

    Edmonton Oilers results
    W – L -OTL

    Goals against games
    0 GA need 1GF to win
    4-0-0
    1 ga need 2Gzf to win
    7-0-0
    2ga need 3 GF to win
    7-0-1
    3ga need 4 gf to win
    3-2-0
    4 gA need 5 gf to win
    2-12-0
    5ga gm need 6+ gf to win
    0-8-2

  168. rickithebear says:

    Russel playing with top HD dmen generates top 5 Expected save% results
    With sub 1.50 expected GA rates.
    He creates a high rate of closed corsi influenced by
    1. Blocks
    2. Forced misses
    3. Poor targeting above average hit goalie rates.
    These are all influences of Dmen.

    The other is homeplate penetration which is greatly reduced with a strong HD pairing.
    HD penetration is a thing.

    Blocks, misses, shots with 0 chance of going in are things.
    It sure is not simple to collect that data.

    Buttons prospect ratings ?????
    If you can get rookie of the year being 25 on sept 14 of start of season.
    I have allways used 25 on July 1 (NzhL new contract date) to define a prospect.

    Joel Persson is 24 this year.
    A SHL dman of year.

    Crazy!

  169. Wilde says:

    oilersfan:

    Wild I agree, but it shows with mediocre nhl Dmen the oilers are an a ok team

    Not awesome, ok. But with a bunch of ahl Dmen we are the worst team in the league

    Manning was on for the last shift of regulation because nurse had played over a minute with Russell and Jones was out

    Any word on jones? I wonder if he has a concussion . That was a dirty hit by
    gudbranson

    Yeah that’s true. It’s kind of amazing how little help this core needs to power a 90-point team, and how hard it’s been for the organisation to complete such a provably minute task. It’s one of the reasons I’m very optimistic about the future of the team, how much dead weight the young players have dragged along and the thought of what they will be when the chains come off.

    I don’t know if Caleb got a concussion, I watched it a few times and I don’t think Gudbranson hit him in the head, and didn’t see his head hit the boards or the ice after. Extremely reckless hit though, could have been miles worse esp. if Gudbranson was a better skater and got more speed behind it.

    oilersfan:

    Just watched the 3 minute post game interviews and none of those bone headed reporters even asked about Jones’ health after him leaving the bench short a dman in the third and him not playing in overtime…

    Do these reporters even watch the game let alone understand it?

    Reporters, like everyone else, routine-ise their work. Like everyone else’s work, the risk is run that it’s hurt by that process. One did ask Caleb himself about it, though:

    ______________________________________________________

    Jim Matheson

    @NHLbyMatty

    2 hours ago

    Caleb Jones was rattled by Erik Gubranson into end boards and needed concussion protocol. “Good hit. Yeah good hit.” One D man to another
    ______________________________________________________

    The spotters obviously had a better angle than I do. I really, really want Jones’ minutes to be cut in the first place and this adds to it. He’s such an important future and with his innate abilities like his skating and confidence under distress at 21 in the NHL make it so he’s an outsize chance (for someone drafted in his slot) to become a Legit NHL Top-4 D but the precise only way to fuck this up happens to be the precise thing that’s happening, regardless of if it’s by necessity.

    rickithebear:

    Russel playing with top HD dmen generates top 5 Expected save% results
    With sub 1.50 expected GA rates.
    He creates a high rate of closed corsi influenced by
    1. Blocks
    2. Forced misses
    3. Poor targeting above average hit goalie rates.
    These are all influences of Dmen.
    The other is homeplate penetration which is greatly reduced with a strong HD pairing.
    HD penetration is a thing.
    Blocks, misses, shots with 0 chance of going in are things.
    It sure is not simple to collect that data.

    Ricki, I think Russell’s main positive attribute is disrupting and eliminating the options of dangerous/backdoor passes. Is that included in #3?

  170. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers tied with MIN for the 2nd wild card – MIN has a game in hand so hold it down.

    Oilers one point behind COL for the 1st wild card, even games.

    Oilers have a point on VAN with a game in hand, two points on ANA and 4 points on ARI and STL (STL with two games in hand).

    Big game against the flames coming up on Sat – flames play the night before as well – Oilers need to find a way to get two points that night.

  171. Suntory Hanzo says:

    rickithebear,

    I love these posts!!!

  172. OriginalPouzar says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    I think OP’s alarm is going to go off before this shootout is over

    morning came quick today….

  173. OriginalPouzar says:

    npanciroli:
    russ99,

    Might be 0/2 on this after the weekend unfortunately.

    Might be 2/0 this weekend as well….

  174. Suntory Hanzo says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Morning OP! I mean, about to go to bed for me OP!

  175. OriginalPouzar says:

    digger50:
    Happy to focus on the win.

    That late hit on Jones I thought was dirty and Oil would have answered if the game wasn’t on the line. Hope he’s okay

    He didn’t come back to play, did he? Concussion protocol perhaps.

  176. OriginalPouzar says:

    oilersfan:
    The oilers are now 4-2 since Russell is back in the lineup

    2-7-1 with Hitch and no Russell

    I don’t think that is a coincidence.

    13-4 with Hitch as coach and Russell in the lineup.

    Not saying he is a top pairing D but he is a proven NHL dman in a top four role.

    Any word on Caleb?

    Yes, Russell coming back was a big deal, we saw that in the first game. In addition to just getting Russell back in the lineup himself, it knocks everyone else down a spot and makes it so we don’t have a guy like Gravel in the top 4 along with both Manning/Petrovic in the lineup.

    I really hope the rest of the D stays healthy until Klef comes back as I’d love to see the unit with Jones knocked back to the third pairing. Russell isn’t the perfect 2D but I do like:

    Klef/Larsson
    Nurse/Russell
    Jones/Benning / Gravel/Jones

  177. OriginalPouzar says:

    rickithebear:
    Russel playing with top HD dmen generates top 5 Expected save% results
    With sub 1.50 expected GA rates.
    He creates a high rate of closed corsi influenced by
    1. Blocks
    2. Forced misses
    3. Poor targeting above average hit goalie rates.
    These are all influences of Dmen.

    The other is homeplate penetration which is greatly reduced with a strong HD pairing.
    HD penetration is a thing.

    Blocks, misses, shots with 0 chance of going in are things.
    It sure is not simple to collect that data.

    Buttons prospect ratings ?????
    If you can get rookie of the year being 25 on sept 14 of start of season.
    I have allways used 25 on July 1 (NzhL new contract date) to define a prospect.

    Joel Persson is 24 this year.
    A SHL dman of year.

    Crazy!

    Is Joel Persson considered an HD d-man?

  178. OriginalPouzar says:

    I can’t recall for sure but was Jones’ injury last year a concussion? I seems to recall it was and he was out for a while. I could be misremembering but, if not, that is slightly concerning.

  179. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I can’t recall for sure but was Jones’ injury last year a concussion? I seems to recall it was and he was out for a while. I could be misremembering but, if not, that is slightly concerning.

    I honestly can’t find anything. Difficult to find AHL injury news of the present, let alone the past! All I know from my sleuthing is that he was injured in January and didn’t make it back until the end of February. It was around the same time as Mantha’s injury so the focus was on that.

    He was also suspended, and that maybe a few times.

    I finally found it, from Twitter. It was a groin injury, which lasted quite a long time (almost 2 months).

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BrendenUllrich/status/968959075479244801

    Though, who knows. Maybe there was a concussion at some time.

  180. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q: I honestly can’t find anything. Difficult to find AHL injury news of the present, let alone the past! All I know from my sleuthing is that he was injured in January and didn’t make it back until the end of February. It was around the same time as Mantha’s injury so the focus was on that.

    He was also suspended, and that maybe a few times.

    I finally found it, from Twitter. It was a groin injury, which lasted quite a long time (almost 2 months).

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BrendenUllrich/status/968959075479244801

    Though, who knows. Maybe there was a concussion at some time.

    Good work – that alleviates a bit of the concern – maybe it was Bear’s injury last year that was the concussion…..

  181. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Kaptain Vikarious:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    You did very well on each program.Entertaining and informative.Seemingly at ease.

    Any idea when you’ll be back?Miss it.

    Thank you.

    Might be on a round table with LT when he has one.

    Other than that I don’t plan on being on the radio at all.

    To prep properly takes time I don’t really have these day, very busy with work.

    And honestly the vitrol towards me on twitter (and other places, not here) was starting to bug me.

    When you gain a little bit of profile it makes you a target.

    I’ve decided to block everyone who is a dink and that has helped.

  182. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Professor Q: I grew up actually loving the taste of Thrill gum.

    Me too.

    Soapy goodness.

    Used to jam half a box in my mouth at once.

    Shit was too hard to chew in about 15 minutes, but it was a glorious 15 minutes until then

  183. Lowetide says:

    For The Athletic: The Oilers’ way forward and the smartest route to finding an impact winger this summer

    https://theathletic.com/769897/2019/01/17/the-oilers-way-forward-the-smartest-route-to-finding-an-impact-winger-this-summer/

  184. Jethro Tull says:

    Wilde:
    I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win.

    “I sense you’re concerned with deployment” – Deanna Troi, Blog Counselor.

  185. Jethro Tull says:

    Wilde:
    I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win. I will not mentally break down about deployment an hour after a win.

    “I sense you’re concerned about deployment.” Deanna Troi, Blog Counselor

  186. Pescador says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Thank you.

    Might be on a round table with LT when he has one.

    Other than that I don’t plan on being on the radio at all.

    To prep properly takes time I don’t really have these day, very busy with work.

    And honestly the vitrol towards me on twitter (and other places, not here) was starting to bug me.

    When you gain a little bit of profile it makes you a target.

    I’ve decided to block everyone who is a dink and that has helped.

    I especially enjoyed the segments on Oilers now where you explained advanced stat definitions. And then proceeded to lay waste to the Hall & Nuge detractors.
    If I was to give your radio hits some sort of scouting analysis I’d say
    Woodguy delivers the goods every time he steps into the fire. He has a way of explaining advanced hockey terminology in a simplistic manner. His joe 6 pack approach to hockey analytics is a refreshing change & helps the listener understand what stats are & what they are telling us.
    I also enjoy his pure & utter disdain for the host of whichever show he finds himself on.
    Still hoping for a block function on the blog.

  187. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Pescador: I especially enjoyed the segments on Oilers now where you explained advanced stat definitions. And then proceeded to lay waste to the Hall & Nuge detractors.
    If I was to give your radio hits some sort of scouting analysis I’d say
    Woodguy delivers the goods every time he steps into the fire. He has a way of explaining advanced hockey terminology in a simplistic manner. His joe 6 pack approach to hockey analytics is a refreshing change & helps the listener understand what stats are & what they are telling us.
    I also enjoy his pure & utter disdain for the host of whichever show he finds himself on.
    Still hoping for a block function on the blog.

    Ha!

    Thanks.

    I like LT and Bob so I think disdain is way too strong a word, but I wasn’t afraid to disagree.

    The closest to disdain is when LT would ask one question and then I’d change the subject to my particular hobby horse that week.

  188. Rube Foster says:

    Ivan: YES! I said the exact same thing. We can hope!

    Me three!

    If Cave plays like a young Dave Hunter It would be manna from heaven.

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