Game 51 2018-19: Oilers at Flyers

February through the end of the 2015-16 season, Connor McDavid scored 32, 11-25-36. The following season from February 1, he delivered 30, 13-28-41. Last year, 2017-18, he posted 33, 26-28-54. Can he drag this team into the playoffs by himself? We’re about to find out.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton brought it yesterday, there’s a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Lowetide: If fast is the new big, how do the Edmonton Oilers get there in a hurry?
  • New Jonathan Willis: Analyzing how well Peter Chiarelli and Keith Gretzky restocked the Oilers with their draft work
  • New Lowetide: Finding a path to the playoffs may involve reckless use of future assets by the Oilers
  • New Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Tyler Dellow: A deeper look at Connor McDavid and the Oilers’ 5-on-5 offensive changes under Ken Hitchcock
  • Corey Pronman: 2019 NHL Draft midseason rankings
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Caleb Jones has impressive first showing in the NHL with Oilers.
  • Tyler Dellow: Four questions that the Oilers should be asking candidates for the GM job
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: New Oilers caretaker Keith Gretzky caught between earning playoff berth and keeping future assets
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Goalless Tobias Rieder hopes to follow Zack Kassian and Milan Lucic and end his offensive funk.
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 51

  • Oilers in 2015: 20-26-5, 45 points; goal differential -22
  • Oilers in 2016: 28-15-8, 64 points; goal differential +17
  • Oilers in 2017: 23-24-4, 50 points; goal differential -26
  • Oilers in 2018: 23-24-3, 49 points; goal differential -13

Through 50 the Oilers aren’t a playoff team and they aren’t a lot better than one year ago. After 50 last season, Edmonton’s goal differential (138-161) was -23; this season, the team’s GD (141-163) is -22. My numbers above exclude empty-net goals.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 1-0-0, two points; goal differential +1
  • Oilers in February 2017: 0-1-0, 0 points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in February 2018: 0-1-1, one point; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2019: 0-0-0, 0 points; goal differential —

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Philadelphia, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Pittsburgh, Carolina, NY Islanders (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, NY Islanders, Anaheim (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 0-0-0, 0 points in 14 games

I have Edmonton stepping up this month, just a little, because Oscar Klefbom returns and I do think McDavid is about to lay down the law. We’ll see if it holds, but if the team can deliver at my predicted pace, they’ll be 30-30-4 after 64. That would mean the Oilers would need to finish something like 18, 11-6-1 to have any chance at all (41-36-5, 87 points). This team needs a 10-game winning streak.

OILERS PROJECTED LINEUP

Ken Hitchcock said yesterday he was inspired by the Flyers spreading out the offense coming out of the break, thus the lines as shown here. My take? These lines will last like a snowball in a hot place. Oscar may be in, that should help in a big way.

I haven’t thought much about the new general manager, so the idea of the next Oilers coach is a very distant bell. That said, Knoblauch is an interesting name and Bob has spoken about him many times. Knoblauch is a winner, he’s coached McDavid (in junior) so it’s possible.

CONDORS SINCE JAN 1

  1. Josh Currie 14, 10-5-15
  2. Joe Gambardella 8, 9-4-13
  3. Tyler Benson 14, 1-12-13
  4. Cooper Marody 14, 3-10-13
  5. Logan Day 14, 1-11-12
  6. Ethan Bear 13, 2-8-10

A quick glance at some January Condors offers us some recall clues. I included Logan Day, because the young man is absolutely tearing up the blacktop. He’s earning an NHL deal.

If the Oilers deal Cam Talbot, it’s a lock the club will also acquire a capable backup. One minor leaguer who is pushing (Shane Starrett) will no doubt stay in Bakersfield. In his four most recent games he has stopped 112 of 118 shots, .949.

Defensive recalls probably begin with Caleb Jones, whose impressive performance with the Oilers won’t soon be forgotten. Ethan Bear is also in the mix, although he missed last night’s game and has been banged up for much of the season.

Gambardella didn’t get a lot done in Edmonton but has been on fire in Bakersfield. I wouldn’t discount the possibility of a recall. Benson and Marody would also be in the mix and Josh Currie has been a solid contributor to the Condors for years. A recall late in the year would seem possible.

KEITH GRETZKY’S ASSETS OUT

It’s a long list because Edmonton could be both buyer and seller.

  1. Cam Talbot
  2. Alex Petrovic
  3. Alex Chiasson
  4. Tobias Rieder
  5. 2019 first-round pick
  6. 2019 second-round pick
  7. Brandon Manning
  8. Matt Benning
  9. Ryan Spooner
  10. Evan Bouchard
  11. Jujhar Khaira
  12. Ethan Bear

Some of those names will be summer options, but if the Oilers both buy and sell we could see plenty of movement with the interim general manager. Which is weird, because there’s already a lot on this roster (Manning, Koskinen) for next year and beyond that one would assume the new general manager would be charged with doing.

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  1. Oilpower says:

    Remember that time the oilers wasted a really good start to a game with dumb penalties and terrible pk skills!!

  2. leadfarmer says:

    Chaos in front of our net again. No sticks tied up

  3. Dr. Taboggan says:

    The Oilers looked pretty good 5on5 for most of the game but the problem is most of the players are not good enough to keep up that tempo for 60 minutes. Lucic, Cave, Rattie, Manning are all not NHL quality.

  4. Dr. Taboggan says:

    They still probably win in OT.

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    Kris Russell, for all the solid work he does do out there, is frightening defending a rush with speed – just backs in and backs in and backs in.

    He’s an important part of this team but that aspect of his game is just what it is and it keeps him from being a true solid 2nd pairing guy.

  6. Ice Sage says:

    Both teams playing for Bettman point now. Park the bus!

  7. npanciroli says:

    I’m more impressed by their 5v5 play than disappointed in the special teams to be honest.

  8. McSorley33 says:

    First time in over a decade the Flyers have scored 4 PP goals in a game.

  9. leadfarmer says:

    Lucic and Kassian and Hitch making sure we get nothing of value back for Talbot

  10. npanciroli says:

    Shocked the coach hasn’t realized Russell Nurse is a disaster yet.

  11. OriginalPouzar says:

    npanciroli:
    I’m more impressed by their 5v5 play than disappointed in the special teams to be honest.

    Yup – they dominated the first at 5 on 5 and were close to doing the same in the 2nd.

    The PK has soured a fantastic 5 on 5 performance.

    Games not over yet

  12. McSorley33 says:

    We are embarrassing ourselves now….

  13. Dustylegnd says:

    What was Nurse doing on that sequence…good god

  14. treevojo says:

    Talbot saves a point

  15. leadfarmer says:

    Talbot what a sequence

  16. Rich M says:

    Dodged a huge bullet.

  17. OriginalPouzar says:

    Where they hell were 4 and 25 on that play? Geez!

  18. Dustylegnd says:

    on the plus side this is easy….Connor Leon and whomever…out you go

  19. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Nurse and Russel losing their minds. Chasing all over the place
    So reactionary

  20. leadfarmer says:

    Something something stick. Something something not tied up

  21. treevojo says:

    Mcmagic time

  22. OriginalPouzar says:

    npanciroli:
    Shocked the coach hasn’t realized Russell Nurse is a disaster yet.

    They have been terrible on the PK tonight and were nowhere near the front of the net on that last minute scramble.

  23. Ice Sage says:

    Oilers just can’t handle teams who are quick in close.
    What are the odds of a penalty against in OT?

  24. leadfarmer says:

    Nurse struggling defensively
    Hitch “I know, I’ll play him half the game then”

  25. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Not sure about everyone else, but I’ve seen Jujhar and Gravel pretty good so far.

  26. Dustylegnd says:

    Awesome shift by Russel

  27. leadfarmer says:

    It’s sad when you don’t have enough skill to play two good lines 3v3

  28. Gerta Rauss says:

    ffs….Russell spit the bit at the blue line and it went to shit from there

  29. treevojo says:

    Lol. That OT was gross

  30. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Russell is a disaster. WtF

  31. godot10 says:

    Johnny Larue:
    Reider couldn’t score if his life depended on it

    A long time ago in a universe far far away, when an Oiler forward was in a slump, they would give him a few shifts with Gretzky.

  32. Dicky94 says:

    Russell.

  33. Pretendergast says:

    Finding new ways to lose even after a decade

  34. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Ty Rattie + Russell on the ice 3v3 hahahaha

  35. npanciroli says:

    Nurse Russell for MVP

  36. Ice Sage says:

    easy peasy you’re welcome flyers!
    next

  37. Bag of Pucks says:

    Based on their play today, there is zero possibility the Flyers would entertain the Patrick for Puljujarvi trade I floated a few weeks back.

  38. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    What a fucking horrible horrible overtime. Like complete shit.

    This team is going no where.

    Sell.

  39. Professor Q says:

    Have to really come out blazing tomorrow. Win at most costs.

  40. Dustylegnd says:

    Our lack of depth is depressing….especially lack of skill….and yes Sekera and Kleff would have helped immensely in OT

  41. Dr. Taboggan says:

    leadfarmer,

    Haha yup. Rattie was on the second line…. Rattie… player they just waived….

  42. leadfarmer says:

    Dustylegnd:
    Awesome shift by Russel

    Player that backs in all the way to the goalie in entries 5v5
    Hitch “I know I’ll play him on a 3v3 they’ll never expect it”

  43. McSorley33 says:

    I thought the last 30 seconds of regulation was embarrassing….

    What was Russell doing?

  44. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    That as 100% on Russell giving up the blue line instead of dumping out the puck when he had more than enough time.

  45. Dustylegnd says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Based on their play today, there is zero possibility the Flyers would entertain the Patrick for Puljujarvi trade I floated a few weeks back.

    It sucks when reality slaps you in the face ins’t it…..and what in the fuck exactly is Puljujarvi learning on the 4th line…….same as it ever was

  46. Sierra says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    Ty Rattie + Russell on the ice 3v3 hahahaha

    Says it all right there

  47. Dr. Taboggan says:

    It is fine. Wingers are easy to find. We just need to find six of them.

  48. Ice Sage says:

    Professor Q:
    Have to really come out blazing tomorrow. Win at most costs.

    They came out blazing today. Doesn’t matter. The towel is thrown in.
    It’s OK though, there’s a need for punching-bag teams in every league.

  49. godot10 says:

    Paulie:
    Anyone see JP that period?

    Jesse doesn’t kill penalties, and the Oilers penalty takers were quick to return to form after the break.

  50. OriginalPouzar says:

    Really disappointing to only come away with one point, in particular with how good they were at 5 on 5 – mainly through two but even in the third.

    Very entertaining game.

    Looking forward to tomorrow at noon.

  51. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Dustylegnd,

    It is all part of the plan.

  52. russ99 says:

    Real disappointment to give that one away.

    Instead of a bag skate, can we have a bag tie up the other guys stick?

  53. texmex says:

    Lose for Hughes!!!

  54. jtblack says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Based on their play today, there is zero possibility the Flyers would entertain the Patrick for Puljujarvi trade I floated a few weeks back.

    There was 0 possibility they would have entertained it a few weeks back either.

  55. SK Oiler Fan says:

    All he had to do was move his feet or just tap it back to Talbot but nope he was just going to sit in one spot and hope the orange jersey on his backnwent away? Dumbest play I’ve seen since the last Russell Nurse shift at end of the third

  56. Oil2Oilers says:

    John Shannon saw character, I think I need to borrow his glasses

  57. Craig Zonit says:

    Kris Russell in OT. Flashes of McLellan’s sending Lucic out there.

    The House That Pete Built.

  58. Andy Dufresne says:

    That is the worst Ive seen this team play in overtime EVER!

  59. --hudson-- says:

    Well played OT by the Flyers. They were patient and waited for a mistake. Both Rattie and Russell needed a change. Wouldn’t be surprised if the play was offside but doesn’t matter now.

  60. Dr. Taboggan says:

    I sincerely hope Lucic and Russell are in the pressbox tomorrow. They looked absolutely terrible. I was happy to see Lucic get a few points before the break but he is terrible. So slow and always takes awful penalties. He used to at least smash opposing players, now he just takes stick infraction penalties or spends his time imitating a statue.

  61. texmex says:

    By the end of the night, the oilers will be 4 points out.

    Turn out the lights the party’s over

  62. Bag of Pucks says:

    Dustylegnd: It sucks when reality slaps you in the face ins’t it…..and what in the fuck exactly is Puljujarvi learning on the 4th line…….same as it ever was

    There was a fair few posters on this board suggesting that would be a poor trade…for the Oil.

    We overrate our own players. They’re only about 8Fs and 3D away from being a Cup contender. lol

  63. Andy Dufresne says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Not sure about everyone else, but I’ve seen Jujhar and Gravel pretty good so far.

    Keep JJ and sign Gravel.

  64. godot10 says:

    Professor Q:
    Have to really come out blazing tomorrow. Win at most costs.

    The OIlers are Price’s Kryptonite.

  65. Andy Dufresne says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    I sincerely hope Lucic and Russell are in the pressbox tomorrow. They looked absolutely terrible. I was happy to see Lucic get a few points before the break but he is terrible. So slow and always takes awful penalties. He used to at least smash opposing players, now he just takes stick infraction penalties or spends his time imitating a statue.

    Agreed Lucic and Benning in the pressbox tomorrow/

  66. JimmyV1965 says:

    It would have helped if the fricnikn goalie didn’t drop his stick on the play.

  67. Bag of Pucks says:

    jtblack: There was 0 possibility they would have entertained ita few weeks back either.

    A savvy GM never underestimates Philly’s potential for knee jerk idiocy.

  68. JimmyV1965 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    That as 100% on Russell giving up the blue line instead of dumping out the puck when he had more than enough time.

    It’s on the goalie. He dropped his stick before the shot. Unfathomable

  69. Oilpower says:

    Oil2Oilers,

    Bad is a kind of character!

  70. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    JimmyV1965,

    Agree to disagree.

    Russell had at least two opportunities to dump out the puck: one before the zone entry (also an unforced error on Russell’s part, and typical to his MO) and one afterwards.

    That the puck went to the net at all was completely avoidable in the first place.

  71. Andy Dufresne says:

    Talbot had a good game.

    If we’re out of it before the deadline then trade him.

    But if we’re still in it let 80% of the games he gets to start be on the road.

    Let Koskinen start %95 of home games.

    GO RAMS!

  72. McSorley33 says:

    There was no bigger advocate of the Hitchcock hiring than me…..but as someone else already mentioned, if Tmac throws out Rattie and Russell together in OT,this blog would be really upset.

    I don’t like how Hitch puts lines.

    JP had 9 minutes of ice time ..

  73. Andy Dufresne says:

    Oilpower:
    Oil2Oilers,

    Bad is a kind of character!

    lol

  74. flyfish1168 says:

    JP was skating well today. Lucic getting more minutes than JP is a shame.

  75. Alpine says:

    Not to blame him but McDavid covering no one on the OT winner didn’t help the situation much.

    Rattie lost the battle too but on how many teams would he even be out there for OT? He’s fine as a top 6 stopgap for a few games here and there but he can’t skate or defend well enough for 3v3.

  76. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    McSorley33,

    Rattie I can kind of understand… he had a decent game (even without the breakaway goal).

    Russell… well. Because Oilers. #character

  77. Bag of Pucks says:

    I’m not normally a KR hater but there has to be ramifications for a game like that.

    I’d put Benning in the press box, relegate Russell to third pairing and sub in Petrovic.

    I’d take Caleb Jones’ rookie mistakes over Benning’s vet mistakes once the playoff mirage disappears.

  78. Dr. Taboggan says:

    Oilers need to sell at the deadline. I mean they don’t really have anything anyone would want but time to free up as much space as possible and get some more picks. Give the new GM as much flexibility as possible. We ain’t making the playoffs.

  79. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Kris Russell, for all the solid work he does do out there, is frightening defending a rush with speed – just backs in and backs in and backs in.

    He’s an important part of this team but that aspect of his game is just what it is and it keeps him from being a true solid 2nd pairing guy.

    The Oilers will start winning when Russell is either gone or consitently slotted as a third pairng D.

  80. Bag of Pucks says:

    Alpine:
    Not to blame him but McDavid covering no one on the OT winner didn’t help the situation much.

    Rattie lost the battle too but on how many teams would he even be out there for OT? He’s fine as a top 6 stopgap for a few games here and there but he can’t skate or defend well enough for 3v3.

    Agreed. Connor does get too many passes for missing defensive assignments.

    To be fair, this team would be the Jimi Hendrix Experience without Jimi Hendrix without him though.

    He is the ONLY reason to watch this team.

  81. Dr. Taboggan says:

    McSorley33,

    Agreed. I was excited about the Hitch hiring but I have been unimpressed. Same questionable line combos. I mean the roster is a steamy pile but still, Rattie and Russell in OT, yuck.

    Also, why the hell was JP ever recalled. He was playing well in the AHL and gaining confidence. Now he is back to playing 10 minutes a night on the 4th line. #development #theplan

  82. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Someone took a good pic of the PHI players all over McDavid when he scored.

    I grabbed an app and turned into a painting:

    https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/1091786710298484736

  83. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Funny how people on here are mad at Russell. Not sure where y’all have been the last few years (he IS NOT a puck-mover, remember?). When 93 hit the ice with 8 & 4, there were no surprises with the result for me, I figured the Flyers 2nd group would eat their lunch. The officiating also helped by not noticing the extra left hand grasping Rattie’s stick, but again, no surprises there.

    The coach decides deployment, the GM provides the players to the coach. What better options are there? Would Benning have been a better choice?

    This team looked amazing in the first 30+ minutes and then the lack of depth of this team caught up to them. I think tomorrow we will see the usual sluggish start we normally see. This roster is Swiss Cheese.

    I would have rather seen Kassian, Khaira or JP out with Nuge in OT, rather than Rattie, he is too slow for OT.

  84. Alpine says:

    Hitch seems a little lost. I suppose he has little to work with on the wings and on D so can’t blame him too much. Only way his tinkering will be rewarded is if some guys turn the jets on, which failed McLellan as well.

  85. McSorley33 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    No, I agree Rattie had a good game. And I really like Rattie as a cheap
    Stop gap winger for McDavid.

    Just feel he is not a 3 on 3 player.

  86. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Someone took a good pic of the PHI players all over McDavid when he scored.

    I grabbed an app and turned into a painting:

    https://twitter.com/Woodguy55/status/1091786710298484736

    That is amazing!

  87. €√¥£€^$ says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    McSorley33,

    Agreed. I was excited about the Hitch hiring but I have been unimpressed. Same questionable line combos. I mean the roster is a steamy pile but still, Rattie and Russell in OT, yuck.

    Also, why the hell was JP ever recalled. He was playing well in the AHL and gaining confidence. Now he is back to playing 10 minutes a night on the 4th line. #development #theplan

    +1000

  88. JimmyV1965 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    JimmyV1965,

    Agree to disagree.

    Russell had at least two opportunities to dump out the puck: one before the zone entry (also an unforced error on Russell’s part, and typical to his MO) and one afterwards.

    That the puck went to the net at all was completely avoidable in the first place.

    Of course Russell misplayed and is partially to blame, but the second the goalie drops his stick the next shot is almost guaranteed to go in because he can’t set up without his stick.

  89. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Through 11 and half minutes, this is one of the team’s best periods of the year.

    Its tied at 1 but, my goodness, they are skating well and, get this, passing well, and by my eye dominating zone pressure.Lots and lots of play in the Flyer’s zone.

    Great work to this point.

    The Oilers are one of the top 5 best 20 minute teams in the league. Usually the middle 20. Occassionally the last 20. Very seldom the first 20.

  90. Craig Zonit says:

    I’m starting to suspect that this team could use Klefbom back.

  91. Bag of Pucks says:

    For sale by owner. Every player except Connor. Low mileage players with minimal playoff game wear and tear. Nice guys. Easy to play against. Solid in the community. Pathetic on the ice. Will consider trades for expansion club or 80s time machine. Great opportunity for someone looking for a full restoration project or spare parts. Call Darryl Katz at 1-800-FUK-THIS

  92. leadfarmer says:

    People are so set against Talbot that they will pretty much blame him for everything

  93. LMHF#1 says:

    Kris Russell cost the Oilers a game?!?

    I’ll go stop the presses…

    Continuing Andrew Ference’s legacy…

  94. Dicky94 says:

    Craig Zonit,

    Hopefully they keep Gravel in as well. Benning can sit.

  95. Dustylegnd says:

    €√¥£€^$: +1000

    Guys, Scotty Bowman in his prime couldn’t coach up this group of plugs….we have 3 forwards and 1 #2 defensemen as it stands…then we have endless bottom 5 forwards and endless 5/6 men

    Our D can’t move the puck….they also can’t cover the front of the net

    Our wingers are horrific

    I am no fan of Hitch and the way he talks to and treats players is embarrassing …..the players Hate Him across the league…how ever he is working with the best player int he world…..a top 10 player in the world and a top 50 NHL player……and almost nothing else

    K lowe…..McTavish and Howson are the guys to blame….they are horrifically bad at Hiring GM’s (K Lowe) horrifically bad a pro talent evaluation (Howson) and horrifically bad at draft and development Green

  96. Andy Dufresne says:

    Psyche:
    Elliotte Friedman
    @FriedgeHNIC
    Marincin (TOR) on waivers
    11:01 AM · Feb 2, 2019

    I haven’t watched Martin since he was an Oiler. Is he worth adding in the 5-7 D slot? Would allow them to flip out a couple of those other depth D for picks before the deadline.

    Ohhhhhhhh….the Mighty Marincin on waivers……is everybody still choked up that we didnt keep him?

  97. Dustylegnd says:

    leadfarmer:
    People are so set against Talbot that they will pretty much blame him for everything

    I thought he saved the game in regulation while Russel and Nurse were on a walk about….he had little chance on any of those PP goals

  98. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yes but it was a no-chancer on a PP.

    There is no such thing as a no chancer.

    Did you see those 12 saves Hart made that LOOKED unstoppable?

    It wasnt a blown save or anything, but it was stoppable.

    Talbot had a very good game though.

  99. Bag of Pucks says:

    The Oilers play Rikki’s boxout system to perfection. Unfortunately their box is the size of a microchip.

  100. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    €√¥£€^$,

    I don’t think it was a lack of depth at all. At 5v5 the Oilers were the better team today full stop and it wasn’t really close and I think an set of numbers you look at will back it up.

    I think it was a horribly shitty day on the PK that wasted what was a fantastic effort otherwise.

  101. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: Failed to clear the puck while in clear possession with no one close to him tehn scrambled back to the midlle of the ice no where near the guy attacking the net or the point man whose moving in and shooting the pcuk but just in the right spot to screen Talbot.

    Yeah..Thats what I said.
    Failed to clear the puck while in clear possession with no one close to him tehn scrambled back to the midlle of the ice no where near the guy attacking the net or the point man whose moving in and shooting the pcuk but just in the right spot to screen Talbot.

  102. Craig Zonit says:

    Dicky94,

    Oh yes. What’s your optimal D deployment with everyone healthy?

    I like a Gravel – Jones third pair, they killed it in the AHL together it seems, and trade our stable of third pairists at the deadline. Whoever they can’t ship out is retained for depth.

  103. OriginalPouzar says:

    Guessing we’ll see Malone in tomorrow in the name of the PK.

    Hopefully he’s not the one leading to the PK as he was last year.

  104. Dr. Taboggan says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!,

    They played great 5v5 for 40 minutes but most of the players are not good enough to sustain that type of pressure for 60 minutes. They get tired/overwhelmed and start to take bad penalties.

  105. Bag of Pucks says:

    On a positive note, they scored 4 with Connor and Leon and RNH down the middle.

  106. Andy Dufresne says:

    Bag of Pucks: Benning gets way too many at bats for a very marginal Dman imo.

    YESSSSSS!

  107. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Dr. Taboggan,

    I respectfully disagree.

    Both penalties in the 3rd were dumb high sticks (and I’m not completely sure Kassian hit Ghost on the last one but hey it was close enough). One was in the neutral zone and the other was a stick lift gone wrong, I didn’t see any major pressure on either play so no I’m not going to say a word about depth or any of that stuff. Watch your damn stick! Would be a better mantra IMO.

    Lots of gross broken play goals against today, with Russell and Nurse really really having a rough day in their own end. The PK was just a tire fire, bad bounces combined with puck watching will get you burned and it happened in epic fashion today.

    Otherwise, I didn’t think Philly carried the play too much at all.

    Special teams cost them a regulation win and then a turnover by Russell combined with the McDavid/Rattie cross up nixed them in overtime.

    Disappointing result no doubt but the reaction here seems dramatically overboard with the on ice product. But folks are in a sour mood and with a fan base who’s been kicked as often as us Oiler fans it’s always hard to see a positive when they piss away a great effort.

  108. deardylan says:

    That was intense Delorian caliber game with a beauty highlight I will long remember: McDavid’s flux capacitor end to end goal left 3 Phillies hanging off him (as he flicked up the ice to himself).

    If feelings trump results I will be a selective amnesiac and only remember those magical moments with the best hockey player in the world. My mind before all star break was already back to the future with the draft and next season.

    “Whoa, that Philly special teams comeback was heavy”

    There’s that word again: ‘heavy.’ Why are things so heavy in the Oilers game? Is there a problem with the Earth’s gravitational pull?

    Hope Darth Vader will come down from Planet Vulcan and tell the new GM that if he doesn’t take AHL players out of the line up and focus on draft and development, that he’d melt the OBN brains and lazerblast the liquOILr cabinet.

    President is Donald Trump? haha. The real estate dude? I suppose Marla Maples is the first lady. Then who’s Prime Minister of Canada? Justin Trudeau?

    When McD hits 88 miles per skate, we are going to see the Oilers in some serious Schitscreek…..!

    #SupportCanadianContent
    #StoptheFlamesFromGettingKeysTotheDelorian

  109. Buddy says:

    Andy Dufresne: Ohhhhhhhh….the Mighty Marincin on waivers……is everybody still choked up that we didnt keep him?

    When Marincin played here he was actually our best defenceman many nights. I’m going to spend the rest of the day thinking about that rather than about the game.

  110. OriginalPouzar says:

    npanciroli:
    Shocked the coach hasn’t realized Russell Nurse is a disaster yet.

    Coach actually spoke a number of times prior to the break about how much he likes that pair and it needs to be kept together.

    They’ve had good games, absolutely, today was NOT one of them.

  111. meanashell11 says:

    Andy Dufresne: Keep JJ and sign Gravel.

    This exactly.

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Not sure about everyone else, but I’ve seen Jujhar and Gravel pretty good so far.

    Gravel was, well, Gravel, today – to my eye, he’s just a solid 3rd pairing d-man and he makes good decisions and plays. With the current injuries, I’m just not sure why he’s not an every day player – McClellan had him playing every day but Hitch doesn’t seem like a big fan.

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q:
    Have to really come out blazing tomorrow. Win at most costs.

    They did today and continued it for most of the game at 5 on 5.

    I continue to be very encouraged by their play at evens today – that is huge if they can play like that game in and game out.

    Of course, the PK lost the game for them today but, most nights, that 5 on 5 play we saw today will lead to a win.

    Can’t wait until tomorrow – hopefully they can replicate that play at evens (and, of course, not get slaughtered on special teams).

  114. OriginalPouzar says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    leadfarmer,

    Haha yup. Rattie was on the second line…. Rattie… player they just waived….

    Just waived but also had a very nice game.

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne: Keep JJ and sign Gravel.

    I would love to have Gravel back as the 6/7 guy next year but I see no chance of them re-signing him unless they are able to move Manning.

  116. OriginalPouzar says:

    McSorley33:
    There was no bigger advocate of the Hitchcock hiring than me…..but as someone else already mentioned, if Tmac throws out Rattie and Russell together in OT,this blog would be really upset.

    I don’t like how Hitch puts lines.

    JP had 9 minutes of ice time ..

    The current coach’s lineup decisions and line deployment is, in my opinion, just awful – much worse than how McLellan used to deploy them.

    Of course, Hitch is an all-time coach and I’m just a poster in a forum but I just don’t understand so many of his decisions.

  117. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne: The Oilers are one of the top 5 best 20 minute teams in the league. Usually the middle 20. Occassionally the last 20. Very seldom the first 20.

    They were the better team for the full 60 at 5 on 5 – less so in the third than the second than the first but were still bringing it at 5 on 5 until the end. Damn special teams.

  118. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne: There is no such thing as a no chancer.

    Did you see those 12 saves Hart made that LOOKED unstoppable?

    It wasnt a blown save or anything, but it was stoppable.

    Talbot had a very good game though.

    I didn’t see Hart make any saves that looked unstoppable – I saw him make some very very good saves and many solid saves but nothing that would have been on the level of a goalie making the save on that early goal tonight.

  119. OriginalPouzar says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    €√¥£€^$,

    I don’t think it was a lack of depth at all. At 5v5 the Oilers were the better team today full stop and it wasn’t really close and I think an set of numbers you look at will back it up.

    I think it was a horribly shitty day on the PK that wasted what was a fantastic effort otherwise.

    Agreed – Oilers were very good at 5 on 5 – less so in the third but still had many plus shifts in that period.

    A couple weak calls (Brodz) and then careless highsticks (Lucic, Kass) and a rancid PK by D-group (namely Russell and Nurse) ruined one of the best performances of the year.

    I actually think the forwards on the PK were pretty good today – it was down low that was the issue.

  120. digger50 says:

    I think blaming the loss on the overtime deployment misses the target.

    Outplayed them at 5X5 which was the strategy.

    Lost the game on penalty kill, which was not the strategy.

  121. digger50 says:

    The game tape the Oilers should watch is Philly’s PP and even some even strength. They play simple, they know they will have someone in front. Take the shot. They are scoring by dominating the net front. Rebounds and close in shots.

    A goal is a goal. Our high skilled guys love the pretty goals, but they all count the same. I wish we could get one line to play like Philly there.

  122. jtblack says:

    OriginalPouzar: The current coach’s lineup decisions and line deployment is, in my opinion, just awful – much worse than how McLellan used to deploy them.

    Of course, Hitch is an all-time coach and I’m just a poster in a forum but I just don’t understand so many of his decisions.

    Didn’t watch the game, but heard Rattie and Russell were out in OT>

    enough said

  123. €√¥£€^$ says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    €√¥£€^$,

    I don’t think it was a lack of depth at all. At 5v5 the Oilers were the better team today full stop and it wasn’t really close and I think an set of numbers you look at will back it up.

    I think it was a horribly shitty day on the PK that wasted what was a fantastic effort otherwise.

    I agree with you.

    My point was that the lack of depth showed up in OT

  124. Biggus Dickus says:

    I think Connor just brought the term “Posterized” to the NHL.

  125. jtblack says:

    VAN is in COL tonight. So no matter what, one of those 2 teams will have 54 points by nights end.

    Meaning Edm will be 4 points back of a playoff spot to start tomorrows game …….

    MTL played this afternoon also (loss to Devils). McDavid historically plays well against MTL.

    BIG game tomorrow !

  126. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar: They did today and continued it for most of the game at 5 on 5.

    I continue to be very encouraged by their play at evens today – that is huge if they can play like that game in and game out.

    Of course, the PK lost the game for them today but, most nights, that 5 on 5 play we saw today will lead to a win.

    Can’t wait until tomorrow – hopefully they can replicate that play at evens (and, of course, not get slaughtered on special teams).

    I agree. I was not able to watch the game (nor tomorrow’s, likely) but STs needs improvement. Not too bad otherwise. Hopefully Koskinen shows up for that contract!

  127. Kaptain Vikarious says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Is it a turnkey operation?

  128. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors’ game at 7 tonight – looking forward to that – they can score in bunches and not get slaughtered on the PK.

    Wonder if we’ll see Skinner in net? They have 6 days off prior to their next game next weekend (likely with Reggie in the lineup).

    Shit, just realized I won’t get to see how he does – I’ll be in Disneyland….

  129. Bank Shot says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Condors’ game at 7 tonight – looking forward to that – they can score in bunches and not get slaughtered on the PK.

    Wonder if we’ll see Skinner in net?They have 6 days off prior to their next game next weekend (likely with Reggie in the lineup).

    Shit, just realized I won’t get to see how he does – I’ll be in Disneyland….

    Don’t miss the Cars ride.

  130. OriginalPouzar says:

    Samorukov with an assist on a first period goal

    Durzi is out of the lineup (day to day after getting a hit from behind) and it looks like Dimitri might be taking advantage of the primary offensive opportunities.

  131. Oilpower says:

    Seems the oilers could end up bottom 6 in the league a lot easier then making the playoffs, should probably make that first round pick!

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bank Shot: Don’t miss the Cars ride.

    Oh, yes, that is one of our favorites.

    We are staying in one of the park hotels so we get 1 hour early access (Friday for Cali Adventure and Sat for Disneyland) – its amazing, you can bang off three big rides with essentially no line – we’ll be hitting Cars first, I’m sure.

    Park opens at 8, early access at 7, I’ll have the wife and I waiting by the gates by 6:30 – last time, we were literally, the 4th and 5th people in the park.

  133. Bag of Pucks says:

    Kaptain Vikarious:
    Bag of Pucks,

    Is it a turnkey operation?

    Push start.

  134. --hudson-- says:

    Does it seem every opponent recently is on a hot streak?
    Before the break was Calgary and Carolina, two of the top 3 teams of 2019. Detroit is playing much better recently and now Philly with 7 wins in a row.

    Even earlier in the season we played NJ and Pitts when they were hot. We played SJ twice when they were dominant and since cooled off.

    It could be my bias but it seems frequent this season.

  135. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ducks with four shots on net in the first against the Jets and six goals against……

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    Starrett will get the start tonight – he won back to back starts last weekend.

  137. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: Oh, yes, that is one of our favorites.

    We are staying in one of the park hotels so we get 1 hour early access (Friday for Cali Adventure and Sat for Disneyland) – its amazing, you can bang off three big rides with essentially no line – we’ll be hitting Cars first, I’m sure.

    Park opens at 8, early access at 7, I’ll have the wife and I waiting by the gates by 6:30 – last time, we were literally, the 4th and 5th people in the park.

    Comical this is for a couple of 42 year olds.

  138. OriginalPouzar says:

    Samorukov adds a second assist as Guelph is up 7-0 – they are just blowing teams out nightly.

  139. Glovjuice says:

    Just checked. Points wise, there are only 7 teams worse than the Oilers this year. How is this even possible? Is it even possible? I’m not sure it is, but it is real and it is spectacular. Almost like some sort of weird nebula explosion time warp black hole shit or something. Stunning, really. Wow.

  140. OriginalPouzar says:

    No Bear again tonight.

  141. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oh, right, the camera view for games in Ontario is AWFUL – so high on a birds-eye view – can’t even see the numbers on the players.

  142. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard held pointless – 3 shots and even in a 4-2 win.

    Samorukov finishes with 2 assists and 7 shots on net in an 8-1 win.

  143. OriginalPouzar says:

    Marody feeds Benson on a 2 on 1, he goes in alone and scores.

    Great to see Benson score – he’s been assist heavy this year.

    1-0

  144. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors take a 2-0 lead.

    Bomb from Caleb Jones – Stanton with the assist.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    Glovjuice: Comical this is for a couple of 42 year olds.

    42 year old and a 38 year old – thank you very much.

    Sure, maybe comical to others, effing awesome to be a Disneyland with no kids – so much fun.

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    Reign score a late one in the first to cut the Condor lead in half.

    Lucky goal – centering pass goes in off a skate.

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    Benson almost gets that one right back on a fast odd-man break.

    After a quiet few games, the kid line is back to creating tons of chances.

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hayden Hawkey stops 20 of 21 in a 1-1 tie (final).

    Almost had the shutout – the tying goal was fairly late.

  149. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Glovjuice: Comical this is for a couple of 42 year olds.

    Unnecessary

  150. Wilde says:

    I posted this on Twitter, but did anyone else catch that Bob Nicholson said that “The one thing that was very evident was that what Peter Chiarelli built in Boston, it was really Keith on the amateur side of the game that had built it.”

    Keith Gretzky was hired as an Ontario-area scout for Boston in 2011.

    How on earth were the 2008-14 playoff Bruins teams of Chiarelli built by a guy hired as an Ontario scout in 2011? The only OHL-player real contribuion before Chiarelli was gone from Boston was Dougie Hamilton’s 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons. The heart of those teams were made up of 2003-2008 draft picks.

  151. Wilde says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Unnecessary

    Seconded.

  152. hunter1909 says:

    Wilde:
    I posted this on Twitter, but did anyone else catch that Bob Nicholson said that “The one thing that was very evident was that what Peter Chiarelli built in Boston, it was really Keith on the amateur side of the game that had built it.”

    Keith Gretzky was hired as an Ontario-area scout for Boston in 2011.

    How on earth were the 2008-14 playoff Bruins teams of Chiarelli built by a guy hired as an Ontario scout in 2011? The only OHL-player real contribuion before Chiarelli was gone from Boston was Dougie Hamilton’s 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons. Those teams were made up of 2003-2008 draft picks.

    Part of the fan experience whilst following the perpetual dynasty in rebuild Oilers is enjoying how the management show they haven’t got a fucking clue, ever.

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    The “veteran line” with pressure, causes a turnover and Patty Russell walks in to the slot and give the Condor back the two goal lead.

    Spooner with some great great work on the forecheck – didn’t get an assist but, like the PP goal last night, it doesn’t happen without him.

    7 game point streak for Russell.

    Joe G. grabs the assist to extend his point streak to 9 games (5G/14P).

  154. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors take advantage of an Ontario player falling down at his own blue line as Callahan sends Polei in who goes 5-hole. Esposito with the 2nd assist. 2 assists for Callahan tonight.

    4-1 with 8 to go in the second.

  155. Wilde says:

    Nils Höglander is up to 13 pts in 37 games in the SHL and 1.85 even strength P/60.

    For reference, I have on my list Mika Zibanejad at 1.73 /all situations/ P/60 (from before I knew how to navigate the SHL website to filter to even strength stuff; it’s all in Swedish).

    I’ll find more comparables, but his offense combined with the trust his coaches have in him – he played 24 games in the Allsvenskan at age 16 as an undersized guy – and his style of play makes him a Joel Farabee category favourite of mine for the Oilers in this draft.

    He won’t go that high, so perhaps the Oilers could trade down to the 15-20 area and get a quality winger for next season as well as a promising LW who likely isn’t far away. Here’s Pronman’s midseason take on him:

    “Hoglander has had a quality first season in the SHL, being a top-nine forward for Rogle and showing his high-skill game can translate versus men. When Hoglander has the puck on his stick, he’s trying to make a skilled play and for a young player in the SHL he executes fairly often. He’s got fantastic hands, can weave pucks in and out of legs, and can make the spectacular play. He’s not a selfish dangler, though, as he’s a great passer and looks for his teammates constantly. Hoglander isn’t the biggest forward at 5-foot-9, but he plays with a lot of energy and engages well.”

    I’m warming up to the idea of trading down to whoever is scorned by their first-round exit (Nashville’s Fiala; Boston’s DeBrusk?) and is frustrated enough to flush a player – getting Jordan Eberle back; in spirit.

  156. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Wilde:
    I posted this on Twitter, but did anyone else catch that Bob Nicholson said that “The one thing that was very evident was that what Peter Chiarelli built in Boston, it was really Keith on the amateur side of the game that had built it.”

    Keith Gretzky was hired as an Ontario-area scout for Boston in 2011.

    How on earth were the 2008-14 playoff Bruins teams of Chiarelli built by a guy hired as an Ontario scout in 2011? The only OHL-player real contribuion before Chiarelli was gone from Boston was Dougie Hamilton’s 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons. Those teams were made up of 2003-2008 draft picks.

    – I can’t think of the last team in the NHL that had the best player in the league for many years that didn’t win a cup. Certainly not in my lifetime – so from Lafleur to Bossy to Gretzky Lemieux crosby. I’m sure I missed a few but every dominant scorer from his generation wins cups. Maybe Lindros should have but he was injured.

    – I just pencilled in a few cups because CMD

    – But the people in this organization give so many tells about how out of touch and lazy and without awareness of reality.

    – The path to a cup needs a lot of good choices and things to work out

    – What if we are doomed?

    – I guess if I’m the next round of GM and coach hire if In two years we aren’t nashville + then maybe there is a legit culling?

  157. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors foiled on a 3 on 1 (Day, Benson, Currie) but then Jones gets his second of the night on a drive to the net. Yamamoto and Spooner with assists.

    5-1 with a couple left in the 2nd.

  158. Wilde says:

    I’d also be against trading the 2nd round pick unless you’re getting a sure thing back due to the amount of offense that’s sitting in the 30-40 range of most draft rankings.

    Examples are guys like Albin Grewe, Connor McMicheal, Braden Tracey, Philip Tomasino and Bobby Brink are sitting in peculiar places on many (public) boards.

  159. OriginalPouzar says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Unnecessary

    Agh, its fine – Even I admit, its a little unusual for two adults our age to head on Disneyland weekend trip with no kids. With that said, I couldn’t care less what anyone thinks, I will be skipping around with my Mickey Ears on, no doubt. Its the ability to do things like this which is the main reason we don’t have kids.

  160. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Wilde:
    I posted this on Twitter, but did anyone else catch that Bob Nicholson said that “The one thing that was very evident was that what Peter Chiarelli built in Boston, it was really Keith on the amateur side of the game that had built it.”

    Keith Gretzky was hired as an Ontario-area scout for Boston in 2011.

    How on earth were the 2008-14 playoff Bruins teams of Chiarelli built by a guy hired as an Ontario scout in 2011? The only OHL-player real contribuion before Chiarelli was gone from Boston was Dougie Hamilton’s 2012-13 and 2013-14 seasons. The heart of those teams were made up of 2003-2008 draft picks.

    He’s trying to be forthcoming but there isn’t a lot to stand on for Bob.

    It’s spin. He hired a guy who thinks being a big and good guy matters, more than skill.
    No patience with young offensive players. And had to fire him.

    The pattern was there which PC was hired and Burgers admitted no search meaning it was rep hire.

    That works when assembling all star teams, as he did in his experience, apparently not so much in the NHL.

  161. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto sent in all alone on a long stretch pass but he can’t bury it.

    Tough to say for sure with the terrible camera angles but I think it was Day with the pass.

  162. OriginalPouzar says:

    The kid line has been real good tonight – in particular Benson – he’s had the puck on his stick and on a string for much of the night.

  163. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar: Agh, its fine – Even I admit, its a little unusual for two adults our age to head on Disneyland weekend trip with no kids. With that said, I couldn’t care less what anyone thinks, I will be skipping around with my Mickey Ears on, no doubt. Its the ability to do things like this which is the main reason we don’t have kids.

    Chill SS. OP and I have plenty of fun here in this place which has included many exchanges (most of the “serious” non ribbing nature).

  164. OriginalPouzar says:

    Polei with his second of the night from Callahan (3 apples) and Benson who has been unreal good tonight.

    Condors now just cycling – shift after shift late in the 3rd.

  165. OriginalPouzar says:

    Was just about to post that, lost in the blowout win, is yet another solid performance from Starrett – he’s then beat on a shot from the point – screened. He has stopped 30 of 32.

    Anyways, Condors just about to finish up the win for their 10th straigh and there are so many different players contributing on every night – it really is something to see in real time.

    Sad they don’t play until next Friday an Sat and I will miss both games – well, actually, after long days at Cali Adven and then Disney, I may be back at the hotel early enough to catch parts of the game – we will be at the parks well before they open.

    Great day of hockey – Oilers lost but it was a hell of an entertaining game and that’s all you can ask for.

    Go Oilers tomorrow afternoon.

  166. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Polei with his second of the night from Callahan (3 apples) and Benson who has been unreal good tonight.

    Condors now just cycling – shift after shift late in the 3rd.

    These Condors games sound more entertaining than Oilers games from a fans perspective (now that the playoffs are done) – 97 notwithstanding of course.

  167. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Condors have been very fun to watch but I don’t know how any Oiler fan that watched this afternoon’s game wasn’t entertained – it was a highly entertaining game.

  168. Glovjuice says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    The Condors have been very fun to watch but I don’t know how any Oiler fan that watched this afternoon’s game wasn’t entertained – it was a highly entertaining game.

    Best game to watch in a while it sounds like – didn’t whatch it though. We went bowling – LOL. Two years ago me going frickin bowling during an Oilers game would have been preposterous in the extreme and utterly unthinkable.

  169. Wilde says:

    OriginalPouzar: Tough to say for sure with the terrible camera angles

    You don’t like Ontario’s? They’re one of the better ones for me.

    Texas’s is truly fucking awful. I’m tracking those games last. I have to re-watch 15-30 seconds before and after each shot event to see who’s on the ice and whether or not the shot was blocked or missed or whatever. I wanted to rage-tweet out videos of how bad it is but I don’t want to get some poor person (in both meanings) fired or something.

    I’m going to time the next one to see how much longer it takes to track it. Typically it takes about three; four hours to track and triple-check each game but I wouldn’t be surprised if Texas games (in Texas) took over five.

    Scungilli Slushy:

    He’s trying to be forthcoming but there isn’t a lot to stand on for Bob.

    It’s spin. He hired a guy who thinks being a big and good guy matters, more than skill.

    No patience with young offensive players. And had to fire him.

    The pattern was there which PC was hired and Burgers admitted no search meaning it was rep hire.

    That works when assembling all star teams, as he did in his experience, apparently not so much in the NHL.

    Yeah man. I just think the MSM should give him a rougher ride, my read on the fanbase (and I’m well-read) is that they put the OBC as the greater threat to the organisation but I think Nicholson’s influence here as the final word on this hire is incomparable.

    Also, just found out the SHL has corgis going back to 2015-16. Amazing.

    https://www.shl.se/statistik/spelare/extendedmetrics?season=2018&gameType=regular&count=25

    hunter1909:

    Part of the fan experience whilst following the perpetual dynasty in rebuild Oilers is enjoying how the management show they haven’t got a fucking clue, ever.

    It fucking rocks. I much prefer this comedic dystopia to the banal yet cartoonishly sinister real world socioeconomic state and future.

  170. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Was just about to post that, lost in the blowout win, is yet another solid performance from Starrett – he’s then beat on a shot from the point – screened.He has stopped 30 of 32.

    Anyways, Condors just about to finish up the win for their 10th straigh and there are so many different players contributing on every night – it really is something to see in real time.

    Sad they don’t play until next Friday an Sat and I will miss both games – well, actually, after long days at Cali Adven and then Disney, I may be back at the hotel early enough to catch parts of the game – we will be at the parks well before they open.

    Great day of hockey – Oilers lost but it was a hell of an entertaining game and that’s all you can ask for.

    Go Oilers tomorrow afternoon.

    Hey OP. How is Gambardella’a skating?

  171. hunter1909 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – I just pencilled in a few cups because CMD
    – But the people in this organization give so many tells about how out of touch and lazy and without awareness of reality.
    – The path to a cup needs a lot of good choices and things to work out
    – What if we are doomed?
    – I guess if I’m the next round of GM and coach hire if In two years we aren’t nashville + then maybe there is a legit culling?

    I give Connor McDavid 2 more losing seasons before he quietly, through his agent, organizes a trade out of Edmonton to somewhere that’s going to have at least 7 assets to offer.

  172. hunter1909 says:

    Wilde: hunter1909:
    Part of the fan experience whilst following the perpetual dynasty in rebuild Oilers is enjoying how the management show they haven’t got a fucking clue, ever.

    It fucking rocks. I much prefer this comedic dystopia to the banal yet cartoonishly sinister real world socioeconomic state and future.

    Ironically the worse the team’s fortunes are the better I can slag them off. Just like those Tier 1 Fans that Dustin Penner was laughing about; human jerkoffs indigenous to Edmonton who would scream abuse every time the team left the ice.

  173. Alpine says:

    The Oilers management odyssey is definitely written by the Coen brothers.

  174. hunter1909 says:

    These are hilarious times. Harold Ballard’s Leafs circa 1976 times.

  175. hunter1909 says:

    Alpine:
    The Oilers management odyssey is definitely written by the Coen brothers.

    More like the Marx Brothers.

  176. Oz says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    OP at your age and in bed with your wife there are better things to be doing at 6:30 am than being 4-5th in line at Disneyland

  177. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wilde: You don’t like Ontario’s? They’re one of the better ones for me.

    Texas’s is truly fucking awful. I’m tracking those games last. I have to re-watch 15-30 seconds before and after each shot event to see who’s on the ice and whether or not the shot was blocked or missed or whatever. I wanted to rage-tweet out videos of how bad it is but I don’t want to get some poor person (in both meanings) fired or something.

    Ya, for me, I feel that the birds-eye view was just too far away – for the first 10 minutes, I was having trouble even telling who was on the ice – couldn’t even see the numbers. I got used to it and it got better as the game went on.

  178. OriginalPouzar says:

    JimmyV1965: Hey OP. How is Gambardella’a skating?

    Its exactly how you saw it in his NHL games – its average at the AHL level and below average at the NHL level. He’s a very responsible player who is strong on the forecheck and has a plus work ethic but I don’t imagine he’ll ever be more than a depth call-up and 14th forward type of player at the NHL level. At the same time, he will be a plus player at the AHL level.

    Lets not forget, he’s already 25.

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    hunter1909: I give Connor McDavid 2 more losing seasons before he quietly, through his agent, organizes a trade out of Edmonton to somewhere that’s going to have at least 7 assets to offer.

    That would be silly of McDavid because, if management is smart and patient/cautious over the next two years, that will be the point where this team will be able to make moves to become a contender and make them quickly (if management does not make panic moves in the name of speeding up the re-tool in the interim).

    On the other hand, even though I have zero concern that McDavid will actually do that, if he actually did, the massive return of young, cost controlled, high end assets that the Oilers should receive in the trade should make them instant contenders – in the cap era, 4 of those assets is simply more valuable that any one player that takes up a huge cap hit.

  180. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oz:
    OriginalPouzar,

    OP at your age and in bed with your wifethere are better things to be doing at 6:30 am than being 4-5th in line at Disneyland

    Oh, I don’t think you can discount the pleasure one feels of being the first person on to Space Mountain and then hitting Star Tours with zero line…..

  181. Wilde says:

    OriginalPouzar: Ya, for me, I feel that the birds-eye view was just too far away – for the first 10 minutes, I was having trouble even telling who was on the ice – couldn’t even see the numbers.I got used to it and it got better as the game went on.

    It helps that Woodcroft sticks with the same lines unless there’s a big special teams presence in the game, so you can tell who’s on the ice by just seeing one of the F and one of the D. In tracking the game there was less than four shot events per period that happened without the standard lines/pairs on the ice, that were-

    16 – 20 – 18
    5 – 22 – 36
    7 – 9 -27
    10 – 29 – 15

    3 – 8
    4 – 24
    37 – 19

    I like this about Jay, but I’d prefer Yamamoto got all of his time with either Spooner or Marody. He keeps forcing turnovers and extending zone time but the actual finishing threat isn’t really there with Vesel and Gust.

  182. OriginalPouzar says:

    While he was better on Friday than last night, Kailer is starting to create chances, mainly for himself. He hasn’t finished at all but I foresee a heater coming for him.

    My guess is the Condors get Sekera for the next three games which should be interesting.

    Disappointed I’ll miss the games next weekend.

  183. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors up to 6th in points percentage out of 31 teams in the AHL.

  184. OriginalPouzar says:

    Benson leading AHL rookies in assists by 6 now.

    Benson and Marody, 4th and 5th in rookie scoring and, with respect to Benson, a year younger than two of the guys in front of him and 3 years younger than the 25 year old rookie ahead of him.

    Benson really is have a rookie of the year type season given he’s 20.

  185. Wilde says:

    OriginalPouzar:

    Yamamoto sent in all alone on a long stretch pass but he can’t bury it.
    Tough to say for sure with the terrible camera angles but I think it was Day with the pass.

    It was Benson

  186. HT Joe says:

    hunter1909: More like the Marx Brothers.

    Actually, more like the Russo brothers… where in the 3rd act, some egotistical asshole snaps his fingers and half of the team’s assets turn to dust…

  187. deardylan says:

    Sometimes losing brings out the best in others. I remember when Leafs were brutal and after every loss I would stop by Steve Dangle channel with his summation of the game. Now that Leafs tend to win and often keep the score close I hardly visit Stevey anymore. Just not as fun.

    Here is when Steve’s talks about the lost decade of Phil Kessel (an era wasted) (Cup gift to Pitts)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdRX910Rk68

    Or when Leafs lost 9-2 and he went into full on Gollum mode.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDrwtpWhu6o&frags=pl%2Cwn

    Would Lowetide be as dramatic if Oilers were always winning? Would Woodguy become a hero last week? Would it have this kind of passionate pitted pained people?

    Sometimes the pain of being a supporter of one of the worst franchises in the past decade to really bring the best out of people.

    If someone here started a Steve Dangle type channel after each loss of the Oilers and sharing the dark oil stains on their soul outloud they might be making a 6 figure salary and working for Sportnet and ESPN. Let us know if you do get inspired by the links above and start your channel. I will follow every game review like I used to with Stevie.

    Also remember your first video will probably suck in most aspects like Dangle’s did (see below) although like any craft if hit it hard daily with a work ethic like 2Pac and LT the skill will grow exponentially after a year or two.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4OQV6rUYG4&frags=pl%2Cwn

    PS. Try to avoid signing the first contract you get and avoid hanging around with any Suge Knight or dodgy managers like Bruce or Leonard Cohen had. Enjoy the fame when it comes and expect a big dropoff of followers when Oilers actually become the Leafs of 2018-2020.

    #TurnPainIntoGain

    If links aren’t opening..then open in separate window or cut and paste the link to your browser. They are an epic mirror on our own inner oiler shadowworld. Dark baby.

  188. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Benson leading AHL rookies in assists by 6 now.

    Benson and Marody, 4th and 5th in rookie scoring and, with respect to Benson, a year younger than two of the guys in front of him and 3 years younger than the 25 year old rookie ahead of him.

    Benson really is have a rookie of the year type season given he’s 20.

    Is he going to be able to bring it to the NHL level and how is his skating?
    I have never seen him play

  189. OriginalPouzar says:

    Benson’s skating has improved through the year – its not his strong point but I don’t think it will be a deciding factor in his NHL career.

    I don’t know if he’s going to be able to bring in to the NHL but he’s trending very well – what he’s doing as a 20 year old is very good.

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