Game 58 2018-19: Oilers at Islanders

The Oilers played well last night in Raleigh but they simply didn’t have enough firepower to make a dent in the Hurricanes. A 3-1 loss that should have at least gotten to overtime is an empty glass at midnight.

I can’t find reasons to be critical this morning, beyond the roster makeup and we’ve beaten that horse to death. This is us. These Oilers exerted max effort, made a couple of mistakes and couldn’t get it right.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Jonathan Willis: Taking stock of Oilers positives as they enter the final third of a dismal 2018-19 season.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Jonathan Willis: Teams should beware of these players at the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Will he stay or will he go? Possible trade destination for Cam Talbot.
  • Lowetide: Comparing Oilers prospects Tyler Benson and Kailer Yamamoto
  • Lowetide: Is Ken Hitchcock helping Jesse Puljujarvi find his way as an NHL player?
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Lowetide: Entry deal AHL forwards give the Oilers an excellent trade pool.
  • Lowetide: Finding a path to the playoffs may involve reckless use of future assets by the Oilers
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Corey Pronman: 2019 NHL Draft midseason rankings
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 57

  • Oilers in 2015: 22-30-6, 50 points; goal differential -28
  • Oilers in 2016: 31-19-8, 70 points; goal differential +13
  • Oilers in 2017: 23-30-4, 50 points; goal differential -34
  • Oilers in 2018: 24-28-5, 53 points; goal differential -23

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-6-0, four points; goal differential -17
  • Oilers in February 2017: 4-4-0, eight points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 1-6-1, three points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in February 2019: 1-4-2, four points; goal differential -10

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Philadelphia, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-2)
  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Pittsburgh, Carolina, NY Islanders (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, NY Islanders, Anaheim (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 1-4-2, four points in seven games

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Gravel-Petrovic went 13-4 in 10:07, 8-4 shots, no goals and 2-2 HDSC. A rocking chair evening for the third pair, the most common line faced was McKegg-Foegele-Maenalanen. Edmonton’s third pair went 6-3 in 5:58, no goals and 2-1 HDSC. Petrovic was active with the puck but lacks creativity (we knew that), I wonder if the organization contemplates keeping Benning and allowing Petrovic to walk.
  • Nurse-Russell were 13-12 in 16:25, 9-6 shots, no goals and 2-2 HDSC. I thought Nurse was passing well and Russell gave himself more time for outlets than usual. There has been a lot of chaos for this pair, seemed to have more room last night. Went 11-5 in 8:05 against Ferland-Wallmark-Teravainen. Nurse had six shots on goal.
  • Klefbom-Larsson went 10-11 in 16:00, 7-9 shots, 0-2 goals and 2-2 HDSC. Some bad luck for the pairing (97 passed it right to a Hurricane to begin the sequence for the first GA) but Larsson took an unnecessary risk on the second GA in the neutral zone. Went 5-8 (0-2 goals) in 8:21 against Niederreiter-Aho-Williams. Williams, man. Should have drafted him.
  • Mikko Koskinen stopped 24 of 27, .889.
  • NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Draisaitl-McDavid-Kassian were 9-10 in 14:19, 6-9 shots, 1-2 goals and 1-2 HDSC. Kassian needs to be replaced on the line, McDavid is a sheer heart attack and Leon passes like Weight. My goodness this is a talented line.
  • Lucic-Nuge-Chiasson were 5-8 in 8:31, 4-5 shots, 0-1 and 1-2 HDSC. Nuge had a terrific night and Chiasson played well. I’d like to see Khaira here.
  • Khaira-Malone-Puljujarvi went 4-3 in 4:31, 2-1 shots.
  • Khaira-Cave-Puljujarvi were 7-1 in 3:10, 4-1 shots and 3-0 HDSC. Cave had a nice evening. I’d like to see this line again.

SAIL ON CAM TALBOT

Cam Talbot backstopped the 2017 Oilers to a playoff berth, a series win and almost another one. After the Anaheim series, the Oilers were never the same, having lost Andrej Sekera and some scoring forwards. The team also played the hell out of Talbot that season and his own performance didn’t reach previous levels. I wish him well and believe he will flourish.

Anthony Stolarz will tell us what he is, as time goes by. What is good about this deal is the Oilers retained no money. That will allow the club to bring back Andrej Sekera without waiving a valuable player. I’ll have Catherine Silverman from The Athletic on the show today to talk about Talbot and Stolarz. She’ll be on around 12:20.

WHO CAN IT BE NOW?

The Oilers gain a pro-rated $3.4 million in cap with this trade, meaning Sekera can easily be activated. It also gives the team a chance to shop around for a deal leading up to the deadline. Call it a test drive.

The club won’t have much room but won’t need much either. What about Patrick Maroon, or Carl Hagelin or even Richard Panik? Teams would have to take back some dollars, but there might be a little room. I expect the Oilers will want to cash a defenseman in the next few days. If I could say one thing to Keith Gretzky, it would be do something (even small something) to give this team a little push. If they get another offensive piece, and catch fire enough to get back into the race (I don’t believe they make the playoffs), it’ll be a helluva bullet point on a resume. As former NHL general manager Horace Flaccus once said, seize the day!

NOTHING MATTERS AND WHAT IF IT DID?

Jesse Puljujarvi and his agent have gone public now, that won’t help but one imagines the player side believes it could get him traded.

Keith Gretzky can’t change his ask for Puljujarvi. If the quality isn’t there in terms of return, stay the course and try to sign the young man over the summer. If he balks and signs in Europe, then his rights are retained. Edmonton has been bleeding assets and this has to stop.

Puljujarvi’s agent chose the wrong team at the wrong time. Edmonton can afford to let the young man play a year or two in Europe, the club cannot afford to get fleeced in a trade. We are here.

CONDORS KEEP ROLLING

Another win for Bakersfield, more points for Tyler Benson and Kailer Yamamoto picked up a couple of points last night. I’m going to have a look at the last time an Oilers’ affiliate had this kind of game and will report back to you.

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  1. leadfarmer says:

    godot10: Gretzky got $900K of cap space for next year in the Gagner trade, and a few more pennies for this years deadline.

    How did he do that?
    When he actually added pennies to the cap next year
    Remember Rags retained on Spooner

  2. OilClog says:

    15 looks lost

  3. Sierra says:

    Sam Gagner. Fuck me. Quite the organization the Oilers are.

  4. jtblack says:

    Watching Lucic Petro Larsson Chiasson is um …….

    Painful.

    Very slow boots

  5. Ryan says:

    OriginalPouzar: Boots are not required to have success with Connor – its about offensive instincts and intelligence – knowing how to get Connor the puck with speed, finding space and, importantly, timing your presence on the rush near the net correctly – this is where Patty Maroon excelled.

    How many slow skaters can one team accommodate?

  6. OmJo says:

    Dammit why does Gagner have to go and post old photos of himself in an Oilers jersey and get me all in my feel like that.

    When will the NHL replace human players with robots so I won’t have anymore emotional attachments to them??

  7. Ryan says:

    leadfarmer: How did he do that?
    When he actually added pennies to the cap next year
    Remember Rags retained on Spooner

    Stop torturing the poor guy.

    He admitted to making an error.

  8. OmJo says:

    leadfarmer: How did he do that?
    When he actually added pennies to the cap next year
    Remember Rags retained on Spooner

    Lol poor Godot made a mistake and will never hear the end of it 😛

  9. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:

    I’m going to check on the team’s PK own-zone faceoff percentage.

    The Oilers as a team are 26th in the NHL in defensive zone faceoff percentage on the PK.

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    McDavid with a tough PP shift.

    Klefbom robbed on PK2.

    PK2 with Cave, Russell, Rattie, Gagener and Klefbom get a much better chance seconds in than the first unit did.

    Great save by Lehner.

  11. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    McDavid with a tough PP shift.

    Klefbom robbed on PK2.

    PK2 with Cave, Russell, Rattie, Gagener and Klefbom get a much better chance seconds in than the first unit did.

    Great save by Lehner.

    This confused the heck outta me on the first read.

  12. Tibor says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I would start with PP2 next time out. Or sneak Gagner onto PP1

  13. OriginalPouzar says:

    “Connor has been dangerous on the attack tonight” – solid, solid color!

  14. leadfarmer says:

    Klefbom and the Ahl on our second PP.
    Oh Chia. What have you done to us.

  15. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bad pinch by Gravel almost leads to a goal against on a 2 on 1.

  16. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oddspell: Didn’t think you could retain more than half of the total AAV on a contract. So 3 million total regardless of if there’s already salary retained.

    It’s been one period, but honestly Gagner is not the worst forward on this team. If this is indicative, I’m not even sure I’d say he’s in the bottom half.

    A team can only retain half, that is right, however, the acquiring team can further retain in a subsequent transaction which is being suggested.

  17. OriginalPouzar says:

    I don’t know if its lack of confidence or just lack of offensive intelligence but that was a poor play by Rieder to go wide around the next – he had a trailer coming down the middle and it would have been an easy pass for a solid chance.

    I know he’s scored goals in the past but I’m thinking they were speed based as opposed to actual offensive skill and intelligence based.

  18. Caller Zen says:

    Samwise was open but Rieder skates around looking for his 1st goal, hah!

  19. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar: Well, maybe he doesn’t start with Cave? Really, it was just Rishaug that stated that (and it wasn’t firm but his belief).Not to mention, with the current coach, he could get moved up within a couple of shifts (although it will probably be the likes of Chiasson getting any sort of push – sigh).

    This coach and his deployment….

    and there it is – Chiasson with the bump to the top line – predicted!

  20. OilClog says:

    I want to hear “Gagner to Kassian, he scoooores” so bad

  21. russ99 says:

    Man that was putrid crease coverage.

    Can we get a damn shot on net?

  22. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog:
    15 looks lost

    He had a very solid first period though – noticeable in a good way to me.

  23. Dicky94 says:

    OilClog,

    I just want to hear anyone score

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ryan: Stop torturing the poor guy.

    He admitted to making an error.

    Ryan: Stop torturing the poor guy.

    He admitted to making an error.

    I don’t believe anyone is being intentionally vindictive here – they just see the comment and respond to it without knowing that he realized the error later – doesn’t help that he made about 5-7 posts on it before he realized the error.

  25. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: He had a very solid first period though – noticeable in a good way to me.

    Clearly we enjoy different flavours of defence, to each their own.

  26. OilClog says:

    Dicky94:
    OilClog,

    I just want to hear anyone score

    You sir are optimistic, Mcdavid is going to retire and try baseball in a few years or days.

  27. leadfarmer says:

    Well Dusty Old Relic is the best tank commander we’ve had in a while. Might as well bring Steve Tambellini back as GM. He won’t figure out how to work the phones for a year and Hughes will be ours

  28. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tibor:
    OriginalPouzar,

    I would start with PP2 next time out. Or sneak Gagner onto PP1

    I don’t imagine Gagner will get PP1 time just like he won’t get top 6 5 on 5 time.

    Hitch won’t change up PP1 anytime soon – he’s been lauding how good its been (and, up until recently it had been hot).

  29. russ99 says:

    Nurse got a real good shot in.

  30. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa – Anders Lee is much bigger than I thought he was – and listed on hockeydb as 6’3 231

  31. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: I don’t imagine Gagner will get PP1 time just like he won’t get top 6 5 on 5 time.

    Hitch won’t change up PP1 anytime soon – he’s been lauding how good its been (and, up until recently it had been hot).

    You sir are not optimistic

  32. Halfwise says:

    Hey, team captains are supposed to cross check opponents in the face!

    McDeity would have got 5, a game and a suspension for that.

  33. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nurse with a 10-min misconduct – that won’t help things.

  34. russ99 says:

    How is a slash to the face not a penalty?

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    I remember the days when the Oilers were in on acquiring Pulock – well, at least the fanbase was all over acquiring him – never happened.

    Perfect 2RD for this team.

  36. OilClog says:

    Nurse needed to bleed to avoid the extra 10, them the rules. When you take a 2 handed slash across the kisser then eat 6 uppercuts while being restained and not bleed, well you sir have a ego problem.

  37. Gerta Rauss says:

    more Nuge points!!

  38. Gret99zky says:

    NHL refs are garbage as usual.

    Slash to the face. No call.

    Tie up Nurse so he gets fed.

    Assholes.

  39. russ99 says:

    That helps. Nice goal Nuge.

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow – late goal changes complexion of the game.

    Kris Russell – who needs Pulock as 2RD – we’ve got Kris Russell!

    Nice board work by Nuge and Rieder.

    Ooop, check that, Nuge did deflect it and its his goal.

  41. jake70 says:

    Nurse with 10 min because he kept fighting after linesman stepped in? Is that what I heard Remenda say?

  42. Halfwise says:

    A timely intervention by Nuge.

  43. OriginalPouzar says:

    John Marino with an assist for Harvard – points in back to back games for the D-man – take that Adam Fox!

  44. Ryan says:

    leadfarmer:
    Klefbom and the Ahl on our second PP.
    Oh Chia.What have you done to us.

    Well said.

  45. OilClog says:

    Balls are in the air

  46. flyfish1168 says:

    Fighting for someone on the team can create unity with some retribution on lee for Nurse.

  47. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Was it just me or was there blood on Darnell’s lip after Lee did his best Paul Bunyan impression?

    That should have been a double minor for high sticking, immediately, regardless of the extra cirriculars.

  48. Dicky94 says:

    OilClog,

    Can’t be good.

  49. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Watching Sportnset coverage and I regret everything.

    Kypreos has no credibility, like his old pal McLean.

    Truly the worst panel in the business, not even Ron and Friedman can save that crew.

  50. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-1 Islanders (2-1 in the second)
    Shots: 23-17 Edmonton (10-7 Edmonton in the second)
    Corsi 5-on-5: 32-21 Edmonton (14-11 Edmonton in the second)

  51. OilClog says:

    This Samwise has seen some things

  52. Professor Q says:

    I was occupied for the first and a bit until now, so I missed what occurred. That really does suck that the refs missed a high-stick (from what I see here), as those can be really one of the most dangerous plays. No excuses there.

  53. Dicky94 says:

    Picking Gagner with a goal in the 3rd.

  54. Rebillled says:

    Anyone get a clear view of that goal?

    Overhead was kinda questionable..

  55. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilers have struggled since Nurse’s 10 min misconduct!

  56. OriginalPouzar says:

    Niagara scores 8 – Maksimov racks up 2 shots on net and an even rating – kind of odd for one of the top goal scorers in the league.

  57. Gret99zky says:

    Dicky94:
    Picking Gagner with a goal in the 3rd.

    Sure, why not?

    Seems as random as any other prediction.

  58. razor says:

    Was that a “Gagne also in picture” goal against. So nice to be home.

  59. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Oilers have struggled since Nurse’s 10 min misconduct!

    And people think the refs don’t hate the Oilers.

  60. ArmchairGM says:

    Pretty sure I’ve seen this script before…

  61. Professor Q says:

    razor:
    Was that a “Gagne also in picture” goal against. So niceto be home.

    Damn it, and I thought Simon would be the goal-scoring answer for Edmonton.

  62. oilersfan says:

    On the Barzal goal Nuge was the player assigned to get to the point shot but his stick was held by an islander. That’s two games in a row where the other team scored on a play only because they took a penalty and it was missed by the refs. Last night Ferland elbowed Larson on the second goal that caused Larson to miss that tip in and cause the jail bresk the other way

  63. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big PP coming up here – lets do this!

  64. teddyturnbuckle says:

    The lottery watch is on. Oilers a legit threat at finishing last and getting first overall

  65. treevojo says:

    What a beauty

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    What a play by Connor to set up Drai for a big goal – of course, right after a bad turnover from McDavid he makes a wonderful play that very few could.

  67. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well that makes it interesting and we should be getting Nurse back here soon…

  68. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    The Germanator plants his seed!

  69. Professor Q says:

    If McDavid doesn’t win the Art Ross, I sincerely hope Draisaitl wins the Rocket.

  70. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Niagara scores 8 – Maksimov racks up 2 shots on net and an even rating – kind of odd for one of the top goal scorers in the league.

    McLeod held off the scoreheet and a -2 as Saginaw with a rare blow out loss (5-1).

    Hayden Hawkey with a 21 save shutout after his 1GA last night.

  71. OriginalPouzar says:

    Big PP coming up – lets do this!

  72. Gerta Rauss says:

    sweet…PP coming up

  73. Professor Q says:

    How was that not a holding call?! #19 was holding there.

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    Petrovic on PP 2.

    Petrovic, Cave, Russell, Gagner and Rattie – awesome!

  75. Gerta Rauss says:

    them sweet hands of Petrovic on the 2PP is a surefire path to success…lol…

  76. OriginalPouzar says:

    Klefbom has lets 3 slapshots go tonight – good sign his finger might actually be close to 100%.

  77. Gerta Rauss says:

    whistle went after the goal celebration…..

  78. OriginalPouzar says:

    McDavid mugged but after a couple of PPs, the ref said no. McDavid mugged again and this time the hand goes up.

    McDavid then with some crazy strength to get the puck towards the net – wow!

  79. OriginalPouzar says:

    This review is good as it allows the top line to rest for the PP.

    That’s not in.

  80. Professor Q says:

    Can this team get any more in the weird occurrences and unluckiness?

    The puck was in but the goalie covers the overhead camera.

    They should call a review.

  81. Gerta Rauss says:

    well unless there is some magic camera angle that’s not going to count

  82. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q:
    If McDavid doesn’t win the Art Ross, I sincerely hope Draisaitl wins the Rocket.

    He’s only 4 back of Ovi now – crazy!

  83. Reja says:

    If we retain 50 percent salary on Remenda u think the Syrian team would take him.

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maybe a TO to rest the top PP unit????

  85. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    McDavid mugged but after a couple of PPs, the ref said no. McDavid mugged again and this time the hand goes up.

    McDavid then with some crazy strength to get the puck towards the net – wow!

    These are the Days of Our Oilers.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    PP2 with a bunch of tough angle shots – I didn’t hate it actually – got the puck to the net and caused chaos.

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wow – nice goal for the nail in the coffin.

  88. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    HT Joe:
    CapeBretonOilers,

    Is Gagner still that player?21 points in his last full season in the NHL. 32 points the year below. If he can reestablish himself as an Oiler, lovely. But it sure seems like the Oilers are making another trade based on outdated reputation, and bleeding talent and / or speed in the process. The Oilers haven’t earned ANY benefit of the doubt at this point.

    If it weren’t former popular Oiler Sam Gagner, and the Oilers had traded for a random AHL player with a $3.15M cap hit, would anyone be happy with this trade?

    Some of the media sites are reporting that the Canucks GM views this as the potential for him to replace an AHL plater with an NHL player at the same cap hit. I can’t disagree with that assessment.

    This is the reality of the trade.

  89. Gerta Rauss says:

    we’re,uh, we’re not good

  90. Professor Q says:

    Hey, listen. I still think they played well.

    They didn’t play well during the minutes they needed to, and the refs and luck were against them, but they did play well at times.

  91. OriginalPouzar says:

    I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team get so many empty net goals scored against them and the majority of them within seconds of the goalie leaving the net.

  92. emonkee says:

    good job russell, nice pass, can’t even set it up

  93. LadiesloveSmid says:

    This team is no fun

    1-8-2 last 11. WOW

  94. jtblack says:

    Good thing About the Oilers. When they pull the goalie; they takeall suspense out of it and usually get scored on within seconds.
    .#ThisIsUs

  95. OriginalPouzar says:

    The team just doesn’t have any finishing skill outside of 3-4 players. I thought they played well again today, quite good actually – just could’t score due to lack of finishing talent. This entire road trip they played good hockey but just couldn’t finish.

    Anyways, that was another fun game to watch – good flow, lots of chances, etc.

    Losing sucks but at least the games have been entertaining and fun to watch recently – the entire road trip, notwithstanding the 3 loses.

  96. thehop says:

    Highlight of the night:

    Oiler fan with the jersey that reads:

    Ass eatn szn #69

    Seen after Draisaitl scored, courtesy of the the CBC’s camera man.

    The double entendre is astounding

  97. Halfwise says:

    Call me crazy, but I think there’s a chance this team misses the playoffs.

  98. Gret99zky says:

    Looking forward to Nicholson and Kretzky talk about playoffs next week. Making that little addition that will clinch that wildcard.

    #forestfromthetrees

  99. frjohnk says:

    Too early to talk about a buyout for GAGNER?

  100. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    The team just doesn’t have any finishing skill outside of 3-4 players.I thought they played well again today, quite good actually – just could’t score due to lack of finishing talent.This entire road trip they played good hockey but just couldn’t finish.

    Anyways, that was another fun game to watch – good flow, lots of chances, etc.

    Losing sucks but at least the games have been entertaining and fun to watch recently – the entire road trip, notwithstanding the 3 loses.

    And even those players lack consistent finishing skill.

    Yes, even McDavid.

  101. OriginalPouzar says:

    Olivier Rodrigue stops 22 of 24 in a 7-2 win – had lots of those shots early before the game got out of hand.

  102. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    OriginalPouzar: He’s only 4 back of Ovi now – crazy!

    Wouldn’t that be something though…
    The art ross and rocket Richard trophies both won by players on the 30th place team (or 31st if they really stink it up the rest of the way)

    They would REALLY say how terrible this team is if they can’t make the playoffs with two Elite Trophy Winning players.

    Edit: and it would awesome if one of them started their speech with:
    “I’d like to thank Chiarelli for… well, nothing”
    (Obviously would never happen, but man would that cause a stir!)

  103. OriginalPouzar says:

    Go Condors!

    Can they make it 15?

    Here is hoping that Joe G. is able to play (missed last night with injury) as there is a hole with Spooner gone.

    Should be an opportunity to move Yamamoto up if Joe G. can play C:

    Yamamoto/Joe G. Patrick Russell.

  104. OriginalPouzar says:

    I understand that Larsson doesn’t seem like a PP type guy (even though he does have a heavy shot and a bit of hockey sense) and I get him using Benning and even Russell over him but Petrovic?

    Is his lack of PP time, like zero, a function of managing his minutes as he plays so much on the PK and at evens?

  105. gogliano says:

    HT Joe:
    CapeBretonOilers,

    Is Gagner still that player?21 points in his last full season in the NHL. 32 points the year below. If he can reestablish himself as an Oiler, lovely. But it sure seems like the Oilers are making another trade based on outdated reputation, and bleeding talent and / or speed in the process. The Oilers haven’t earned ANY benefit of the doubt at this point.

    If it weren’t former popular Oiler Sam Gagner, and the Oilers had traded for a random AHL player with a $3.15M cap hit, would anyone be happy with this trade?

    Some of the media sites are reporting that the Canucks GM views this as the potential for him to replace an AHL plater with an NHL player at the same cap hit. I can’t disagree with that assessment.

    Spooner couldn’t crack the Oilers. Good luck to Dys fans with that theory.

  106. frjohnk says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Wouldn’t that be something though…
    The art ross and rocket Richard trophies both won by players on the 30th place team (or 31st if they really stink it up the rest of the way)

    They would REALLY say how terrible this team is if they can’t make the playoffs with two Elite Trophy Winning players.

    Kucherov with 2 points so far tonight.

    He is 11 points ahead of McDavid.

  107. OilClog says:

    Outside of 3-4 players the rest of the squad is lacking in puck skills, let alone finishing skill. Games would be much more enjoyable if all the Oilers were missing was finish.

  108. Professor Q says:

    frjohnk: Kucherov with 2 points so far tonight.

    He is 11 points ahead of McDavid.

    It feels like just last week he was only 1 ahead. How time flies.

  109. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    OriginalPouzar: What current events (i.e the events of the last 18 hours) has led to this opinion?

    Their bad decisions never stop.
    Spooner for gagner is just the latest.

  110. leadfarmer says:

    frjohnk:
    Too early to talk about a buyout for GAGNER?

    Nope.
    We lost that trade which is hard to do cause spooner sucks
    But at least you could give spooner another crack at it after he works hard in the offseason
    Gagner is established suck

  111. Rebillled says:

    Truly cursed.

    Katz can’t buy a win.

    Better fire Lowe and Nicholson to send a message.

    They’re laughing at you Daryl.

    They talk behind your back too.

  112. jake70 says:

    Can we hire Chiarellit again, just so we can fire him again. Like a one day contract.

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    Stuart Skinner is indeed getting the start – hope he’s not too rusty – I think its been weeks.

    Joe G. remains out and Luke Esposito (who also missed last night) will step up and play between Yamamoto and P. Russell.

    That second line will need to help out the kid line – here is hoping that Yamamoto can drive that line to some offence.

    Will be tough without Joe G. and Spooner – Spooner was a fantastic player for the Condors and had chemistry with Kailer.

    Go Condors!

  114. Rebillled says:

    thehop,

    That would have to be the highlight.

  115. McSorley33 says:

    Folks, Ottawa collects 2 points …..

    We have a legitimate chance to be the worst team in the league….

  116. Gret99zky says:

    frjohnk: Kucherov with 2 points so far tonight.

    He is 11 points ahead of McDavid.

    Sucks that this miserable organization will likely cost McDavid the Hart (again) and probably the Art Ross as well as the Ted Lindsay this season.

    He fought them off as long as he could, but the Oilers mismanagement team will out.

    Fucking Assholes

    Maybe he can try for the Lady Byng next season.

  117. Gret99zky says:

    jake70:
    Can we hire Chiarellit again, just so we can fire him again.Like a one day contract.

    Can’t wait to see him at the Oilers draft table in June.

    It’s a little awkward seeing the recently fired managers at the table and on-stage saying “cheese” along side the first round draft pick.

    But we’ve grown used to it, haven’t we?

  118. Bank Shot says:

    Sierra:
    Sam Gagner. Fuck me. Quite the organization the Oilers are.

    How the conversation went….

    Keith ” What do you think about Gagner?”
    Bob Green “He was great in juniors”
    Keith “Done”

  119. OriginalPouzar says:

    No Ethan Bear tonight – not sure if he has a new injury, re-aggravated his previous injury or if he’s been playing at less than 100% and they are giving him a night off.

    I will say, he was one of the few that didn’t really do much positive last night – from what i saw.

  120. Yeti says:

    stephen sheps: Belov Bonus

    Gracias!

  121. OriginalPouzar says:

    I think Willie Lagesson is going to be one of those players that is even better at the NHL level with NHL players than he is at the AHL level – similar to Klefbom.

    He can skate and move the puck and has some offensive IQ.

    I think Oilers fans are goint to love “Thor” when he is an Oiler and I’m confident this player is going to be an Oiler.

  122. OmJo says:

    Ryan: For a guy accustomed to galavanting around the world flying business class, your standards for entertainment are surprisingly low.

    I think it’s spelled ‘Lowe’

  123. OriginalPouzar says:

    frjohnk: I think Willie Lagesson is going to be one of those players that is even better at the NHL level with NHL players than he is at the AHL level – similar to Klefbom.
    He can skate and move the puck and has some offensive IQ.
    I think Oilers fans are goint to love “Thor” when he is an Oiler and I’m confident this player is going to be an Oiler.

    5 on 5:

    TOI: 8:13

    CF% 71.43%

    RelCF% – 12.97

    FF% – 66.67%

    RelFF% – 7.48

    GF% – 50%

    RelGF% – 50%

  124. oilersfan says:

    I disagree with anybody who thinks spooner is better than Gagner

    We shall see but Sam always plays well when he’s pissed off

    I thought he looked good tonight and had nothing to do with any of the goals against he was on the Ice for.

    The oilers are on an anti PDO cooler right now, they will get some better luck at some point

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick: Their bad decisions never stop.
    Spooner for gagner is just the latest.

    I don’t see any reasonable analysis that leads to the conclusion given the coach was not going to play the player and/or put him in a position to succeed.

    The trade may not be a win today but its certainly not a loss.

  126. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    SVR: Slow start, then popped since 2008 draft. Top 10 picks
    Dylan Strome?
    Timo Meier?
    Jonathan Drouin
    Jonathan Huberdeau
    Mark Scheifele
    Sean Couturier
    Ryan Johansen
    Nino Niederreiter
    Nazem Kadri

    Slow start, then bust since 2008 draft. Top 10 picks
    Pavelski Zacha?
    Michael Dal Cole
    Valeri Nichushkin
    Nail Yakupov
    Brett Connolly?
    Alexander Burmistrov
    Scott Glennie
    Magnus Paajarvi
    Nikita Filatov
    Cody Hodgson

    It’s almost 50 – 50 at this point for JP. I’d give him one more year

    Yes and then the oilers can pride themselves in shitting the bed with three on that list in the last 10 years.

  127. Gret99zky says:

    Sierra:
    Sam Gagner. Fuck me. Quite the organization the Oilers are.

    LOL.

    When he goes 20 games without a goal your going to have to read about his puck-luck, inevitable bounce-back year, and the vaunted regression-to-the-meat.

    And all the ways we should get Maroon back.

  128. GordieHoweHatTrick says:

    OriginalPouzar: I don’t see any reasonable analysis that leads to the conclusion given the coach was not going to play the player and/or put him in a position to succeed.

    The trade may not be a win today but its certainly not a loss.

    You say Spooner is an NHL player. I don’t disagree with that.
    I am not sure Gagner is an NHL player.
    Also the team needs to get faster not slower.
    I think he is worse defensively.
    He costs a bit more

  129. OriginalPouzar says:

    My goodness is Sekera too good for the AHL.

    Just elite neutral zone defense and elite aggressive defence of he blue line.

    Just made a great step up in neutral zone to break up a rush and then set up Gust for a plus chance.

    Here is hoping he can play this game with the faster tempo in the NHL.

    We’ll start to find out Tuesday and I’m really looking forward to it.

  130. Pouzar says:

    stephen sheps:
    Pouzar,

    where’ve you been? great to see you posting again!

    Hey Stephen…I’ve been around lurking. I follow all thing Oil but I have given up watching the games.

    Hope things are well with you.

    Cheers

  131. Gret99zky says:

    GordieHoweHatTrick: Yes and then the oilers can pride themselves in shitting the bed with three on that list in the last 10 years.

    Raise those sheets to the rafters!

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    What a goal from Yamamoto – some amazing and some poor.

    He showed some fantastic pull away speed to split the defence in the neutral zone and absolutely left the two d-men in their dust – he was flying in all alone, made a move, completely whiffed the puck and it slipped through the 5-hole.

    I don’t care about the finish but he showed the pull away speed that many say he doesn’t have – that looked really really really good.

    P. Russell with the assist.

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Benson/Marody/Currie line seemingly just toys with the opposition – game after game they have shift after shift after shift with possession in the offensive zone – they just had a 90 second offensive zone shift – no exaggeration.

  134. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors just dominating but a harmless looking shot from the point is deflected past Skinner – just a seeing eye play.

    That was their 4th shot (89 seconds left in the first) .

  135. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto the best Condor in the first – all over the puck every shift.

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto the best Condor in the first – all over the puck every shift.

    Kid line with yet another crazy offensive zone shift and Currie draws a PIM with 17 seconds left in the period – almost scored his 15th in 15 games.

  137. OriginalPouzar says:

    Matt Mosewich

    @EDMFutureWatch
    8m8 minutes ago
    More Matt Mosewich Retweeted Fargo Force
    2A for Michael Kesselring.

    7P (2G 5A) over 13GP since being traded to Fargo.

    I’ve been extremely impressed by him this season. Massive potential.
    ————————————

    This was one of those very high potential late round picks (6th round pick last year).

    Long term prospect – long shot to make NHL but high skill – if he hits, he will hit big.

  138. OriginalPouzar says:

    Seems you deleted this comment:

    “Ryan: For a guy accustomed to galavanting around the world flying business class, your standards for entertainment are surprisingly low.”

    Probably felt it was unnecessary.

    Anyways – the game had good flow, periods of great play by the Oilers (dominated the first), scoring chances, great saves, etc. It was contested throughout and until the very end.

    Professional sports watching is more than just the final result – there is an entire game that is played and watched before the final result and, during that 2:45 minutes, I was entertained by the product and enjoyed it. Just because the Oilers didn’t win, doesn’t mean the game wasn’t fun to watch and/or entertaining.

    If the game was exactly the same but the Oilers scored a few goals in the last minute to win it, would it then have been fun and enjoyable? Probably, right? Even though the first 2:40 were exactly the same.

    I can enjoy the game and be entertained without the final result being what I want.

    ————————-

    P.S. if you want to know about my business class tickets direct from Calgary to Tokyo in April – let me know.

  139. OriginalPouzar says:

    Pouzar: Hey Stephen…I’ve been around lurking. I follow all thing Oil but I have given up watching the games.

    Hope things are well with you.

    Cheers

    Even after they traded Drake?

  140. VanIsleOil says:

    Ryan: For a guy accustomed to galavanting around the world flying business class, your standards for entertainment are surprisingly low.

    OmJo: I think it’s spelled ‘Lowe’

    well done….hehe

  141. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto continues to be the best player on the ice – all over the puck, shift after shift, creating scoring chances and drawing penalties (just drew his second PP of the game).

  142. Pouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar: Even after they traded Drake?

    I was heartbroken but yes.

  143. OriginalPouzar says:

    I guess others feel differently but, to me, the point of sports is the actual games and, as a fan, watching them. Not sure what the point and fun in discussing the team is if avoiding the games but to each their own.

    Tough to analyze players, their development, their fits on certain lines, their assets/deficiencies, etc. without watching but, again, to each their own.

  144. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I guess others feel differently but, to me, the point of sports is the actual games and, as a fan, watching them.Not sure what the point and fun in discussing the team is if avoiding the games but to each their own.

    Tough to analyze players, their development, their fits on certain lines, their assets/deficiencies, etc. without watching but, again, to each their own.

    That’s cool.

    And others might feel that there are better things to do with those 3 hours.

  145. OriginalPouzar says:

    Skinner with a big save on a breakaway (player out of the penalty box).

  146. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors now 0-4 on the PP – lots of zone time, passing and player movement but not a ton of pucks to the net.

  147. Klima's_Bucket says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Do you watch/follow other teams Pouzar or just the Oilers/Condors?

  148. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mostly just the Oilers/Condors – I don’t miss Oiler games (unless I’m out of town and even then I try and watch subject to crazy time changes). The Condors are the only AHL team I watch.

    Of course, as a hockey (and sports) fan in general, I’ll watch other NHL games that are on – mostly in the background.

    Will buy the odd CHL game with Oilers prospects but only a few a year – plus the playoffs of course – generally games with Oiler prospects.

  149. McSorley33 says:

    Pouzar,

    Please post more often……great to see you back.

  150. JimmyV1965 says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Wouldn’t that be something though…
    The art ross and rocket Richard trophies both won by players on the 30th place team (or 31st if they really stink it up the rest of the way)

    They would REALLY say how terrible this team is if they can’t make the playoffs with two Elite Trophy Winning players.

    Edit: and it would awesome if one of them started their speech with:
    “I’d like to thank Chiarelli for… well, nothing”
    (Obviously would never happen, but man would that cause a stir!)

    Wow!!! It’s actually a possibility. Imagine the offseason chatter if that happened.

  151. JimmyV1965 says:

    I’ve been on the trade the first-round pick train for awhile now, but I never really thought we could draft top two. That fate is looking more realistic now. If that happens, maybe we should keep the pick and trade next year’s first.

  152. Dee Dee says:

    In a better world the Oilers High Command would call a press Conference for Monday Morning and the group would come out in a line and collectively fall on their swords and resign.

    Instead we will get another installment of “We’re mad as Hell… Oh look!!!!!! Squirrel!!!!!! (Chiarelli)

    Ass Eatn Szn 69 is my new Prophet.

    They should hire that guy, wearing that jersey, to publically Shit Can the whole lot of them.

  153. Sierra says:

    Bank Shot: How the conversation went….

    Keith ” What do you think about Gagner?”
    Bob Green “He was great in juniors”
    Keith “Done”

    How the hell do they even identify him as someone who could possibly help? His own team didn’t even want him around their AHL team.

  154. danny says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I guess others feel differently but, to me, the point of sports is the actual games and, as a fan, watching them.Not sure what the point and fun in discussing the team is if avoiding the games but to each their own.

    Tough to analyze players, their development, their fits on certain lines, their assets/deficiencies, etc. without watching but, again, to each their own.

    I’ve been an Oilers fan since I was 7 years old, that was back in 1983. I live in Newfoundland, a province that’s 3.5 hours ahead of AB time. The true fandom took hold when I was about 9. Which meant figuring a way to pretend I was alseep, and watch / listen to the game that started 11:30pm my time, or set an alarm so that my parents were asleep and I could be awake for the 3rd period of games on ITV. Worst case scenario I could wake up for the ITV sportscast at 3:30am and get a complete recap. Tim Spellisey maybe?

    This devotion continued year after year. I’d literally have a bad stomach after losses. After the dynasty years, I usually had charts created on the back of any posters I had, to track the remaining schedule of the oilers, the kings, the flames, and the last playoff spot. I’d run scenarios over and over and convince myself they would make it.

    My entire life is intertwined with insignificant but meaningful memories that came with being a diehard Oilers fan. Remember when Radek Dvorak scored that huge goal against Dallas? How about the renewed excitement with Zdeno Ciger, Jason Arnott and Doug Weight line? The list of mundane memorable moments with my love for the Oilers is neverending. The list goes on and on.

    You can flippantly dismiss this all you want, but for the first time in my life since I was 7 years old, I am ok with missing Oilers games on television. It’s not a conscious choice, it’s just reality for me now… it’s like that friend or child that you wish more than anything to have success, but it doesn’t happen. After a while, you ask them how things are going less and less, you stop wondering, in time, too.

    7-year-old-me would be completely ashamed of my apathy today. 42 year old me would know the difference.

  155. Gerta Rauss says:

    Sierra: His own team didn’t even want him around their AHL team.

    I think Gagner requested an AHL team closer to home/family, and the Canucks complied

  156. Glovjuice says:

    danny: I’ve been an Oilers fan since I was 7 years old, that was back in 1983. I live in Newfoundland, a province that’s 3.5 hours ahead of AB time. The true fandom took hold when I was about 9. Which meant figuring a way to pretend I was alseep, and watch / listen to the game that started 11:30pm my time, or set an alarm so that my parents were asleep and I could be awake for the 3rd period of games on ITV. Worst case scenario I could wake up for the ITV sportscast at 3:30am and get a complete recap. Tim Spellisey maybe?

    This devotion continued year after year. I’d literally have a bad stomach after losses. After the dynasty years, I usually had charts created on the back of any posters I had, to track the remaining schedule of the oilers, the kings, the flames, and the last playoff spot. I’d run scenarios over and over and convince myself they would make it.

    My entire life is intertwined with insignificant but meaningful memories that came with being a diehard Oilers fan. Remember when Radek Dvorak scored that huge goal against Dallas? How about the renewed excitement with Zdeno Ciger, Jason Arnott and Doug Weight line? The list of mundane memorable moments with my love for the Oilers is neverending. The list goes on and on.

    You can flippantly dismiss this all you want, but for the first time in my life since I was 7 years old, I am ok with missing Oilers games on television. It’s not a conscious choice, it’s just reality for me now… it’s like that friendor child that you wish more than anything to have success, but it doesn’t happen. After a while, you ask them how things are going less and less, you stop wondering, in time, too.

    7-year-old-me would be completely ashamed of my apathy today. 42 year old me would know the difference.

    Yup, my guess is that OP hasn’t been invested as long as you or I. Maybe he has but I’d be curious to find out.

  157. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Correct.

    Samwise’s wife has a practice in Hogtown, so VCR found a way to loan him to a nearby club (Marlies) to accommodate his request once he didn’t make the NHL club.

  158. Lowetide says:

    danny: I’ve been an Oilers fan since I was 7 years old, that was back in 1983. I live in Newfoundland, a province that’s 3.5 hours ahead of AB time. The true fandom took hold when I was about 9. Which meant figuring a way to pretend I was alseep, and watch / listen to the game that started 11:30pm my time, or set an alarm so that my parents were asleep and I could be awake for the 3rd period of games on ITV. Worst case scenario I could wake up for the ITV sportscast at 3:30am and get a complete recap. Tim Spellisey maybe?

    This devotion continued year after year. I’d literally have a bad stomach after losses. After the dynasty years, I usually had charts created on the back of any posters I had, to track the remaining schedule of the oilers, the kings, the flames, and the last playoff spot. I’d run scenarios over and over and convince myself they would make it.

    My entire life is intertwined with insignificant but meaningful memories that came with being a diehard Oilers fan. Remember when Radek Dvorak scored that huge goal against Dallas? How about the renewed excitement with Zdeno Ciger, Jason Arnott and Doug Weight line? The list of mundane memorable moments with my love for the Oilers is neverending. The list goes on and on.

    You can flippantly dismiss this all you want, but for the first time in my life since I was 7 years old, I am ok with missing Oilers games on television. It’s not a conscious choice, it’s just reality for me now… it’s like that friendor child that you wish more than anything to have success, but it doesn’t happen. After a while, you ask them how things are going less and less, you stop wondering, in time, too.

    7-year-old-me would be completely ashamed of my apathy today. 42 year old me would know the difference.

    That’s an outstanding post.

  159. Sierra says:

    OriginalPouzar: I’m concerned about the intent of the trade if keeping the asset acquired is not a priority.If that’s the case then the trade was made in the name of cap space for the remainder of this season – cap space that isn’t needed unless they are looking to acquire a player for this year – I worry about the asset(s) out to acquire a player than is in the name of immediate improvement.

    This I agree with, but I wonder if the Oilers really wanted a goalie in return. Otherwise, who would be backing up MK?

  160. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: and i now apologize for responding to 6-7 of them with corrections – i read and comment in order and just saw this post now.

    I think you were reading the cap hit after the $1,025,000 buried amount which capfriendly shows while the player is in the minors.

    I disagree with many of your opinions but acknowledge you have a high knowledge of these types of CBA matters which is why i found it odd that you were wrong on this one.

    The genie (my blunder) got out of the bottle, before I could fix it, and it has a life of its own now.

  161. Scungilli Slushy says:

    danny: I’ve been an Oilers fan since I was 7 years old, that was back in 1983. I live in Newfoundland, a province that’s 3.5 hours ahead of AB time. The true fandom took hold when I was about 9. Which meant figuring a way to pretend I was alseep, and watch / listen to the game that started 11:30pm my time, or set an alarm so that my parents were asleep and I could be awake for the 3rd period of games on ITV. Worst case scenario I could wake up for the ITV sportscast at 3:30am and get a complete recap. Tim Spellisey maybe?

    This devotion continued year after year. I’d literally have a bad stomach after losses. After the dynasty years, I usually had charts created on the back of any posters I had, to track the remaining schedule of the oilers, the kings, the flames, and the last playoff spot. I’d run scenarios over and over and convince myself they would make it.

    My entire life is intertwined with insignificant but meaningful memories that came with being a diehard Oilers fan. Remember when Radek Dvorak scored that huge goal against Dallas? How about the renewed excitement with Zdeno Ciger, Jason Arnott and Doug Weight line? The list of mundane memorable moments with my love for the Oilers is neverending. The list goes on and on.

    You can flippantly dismiss this all you want, but for the first time in my life since I was 7 years old, I am ok with missing Oilers games on television. It’s not a conscious choice, it’s just reality for me now… it’s like that friendor child that you wish more than anything to have success, but it doesn’t happen. After a while, you ask them how things are going less and less, you stop wondering, in time, too.

    7-year-old-me would be completely ashamed of my apathy today. 42 year old me would know the difference.

    Brilliant.

    I once tried to switch allegiances after moving from Edmonton. I was so offended and angry after the Messier trade, watching the dissolution of the team, knowing they could easily have won a few more times at least with the gang together, I thought screw this.

    The Eskimos were bad , the Oilers bad and no hope in sight, why not switch to the local guys in my new place.

    The Dys were good, but I just couldn’t do it, and supported the Rags simply because of the Oilers on the team.

    Didn’t make me too popular, and now I’m resigned to the fact I’m a hopeless Oiler and Eskimo fan, no matter what. I have no affinity for any other team in those leagues, have never caught an interest in the NFL.

    Maybe that’s strange? But that’s what it is for me, so I vent here and have to keep it somewhat at arm’s length, for sanity’s sake.

    I’m pretty happy with Sunderland’s work, I was getting worried after losing 4 good players to the south and thinking Reilly was going. Now if he can shore up that D backfield!

  162. Biggus Dickus says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I guess others feel differently but, to me, the point of sports is the actual games and, as a fan, watching them.Not sure what the point and fun in discussing the team is if avoiding the games but to each their own.

    Tough to analyze players, their development, their fits on certain lines, their assets/deficiencies, etc. without watching but, again, to each their own.

    I don’t need to watch 82 games a year. Especially when I can tell the team has no chance in August. I like to watch every CFL game until it’s over, plus weekends are best 3 or 4 football games (NCAA/NFL. I like to follow the Oilers, but I don’t watch every game anymore. I watch probably 30-60% the lockout season. The exception being the back half of 2017, where I watched every game. I don’t need to watch every game to tell you that can’t play. I like to watch good teams. Call it bandwagon or whatever, but I want to watch high level competitive games regardless of the sport. I don’t watch the Oilers religiously for the same reason I don’t watch the NBA regular season; the players don’t care and the product sucks. I don’t want to watch a team that can’t make a 10 ft pass, and hasn’t had a headman pass dman for at least 5 years. Right now all my teams are rebuilding (Cardinals, Suns, Oilers), so I have mostly turned to just watching games I’m not invested in. It’s pretty obvious how far away we are when you watch a game between two playoff teams.

  163. Biggus Dickus says:

    Biggus Dickus,

    Scungilli Slushy: Brilliant.

    I once tried to switch allegiances after moving from Edmonton. I was so offended and angry after the Messier trade, watching the dissolution of the team, knowing they could easily have won a few more times at least with the gang together, I thought screw this.

    The Eskimos were bad , the Oilers bad and no hope in sight, why not switch to the local guys in my new place.

    The Dys were good, but I just couldn’t do it, and supported the Rags simply because of the Oilers on the team.

    Didn’t make me too popular, and now I’m resigned to the fact I’m a hopeless Oiler and Eskimo fan, no matter what. I have no affinity for any other team in those leagues, have never caught an interest in the NFL.

    Maybe that’s strange? But that’s what it is for me, so I vent here and have to keep it somewhat at arm’s length, for sanity’s sake.

    I’m pretty happy with Sunderland’s work, I was getting worried after losing 4 good players to the south and thinking Reilly was going. Now if he can shore up that D backfield!

    Was pretty pissed when Hervey got canned. I know he didn’t respect Rhodes, and that everyone has a boss, but that’s a joke. Glad Rhodes is gone. Absolute idiot. Looks like Sunderland has finally had the shackles taken off. A little inside baseball, but I know Hervey disregarded the finacial side, which is how he buit such a good team. Basically told Rhodes to eff off. Rhodes (like the Jays) has the loser mentality of cutting costs vs increasing revenue. A winning Jays team gets coast to coast coverage, and a full ball park, but they would rather be mediocre and save money. So instead of building a team Rhodes spun halftime shows and skimped out on player meals, swag, etc. Brock was also clearly told to not rock the financial boat. Surprised they brought in the guys they did.

  164. Gret99zky says:

    “I told the players today that I can get them to a place they can’t get to themselves.” – Ken Hitchcock (December 2018)

    Hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  165. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Gret99zky:
    “I told the players today that I can get them to a place they can’t get to themselves.” – Ken Hitchcock (December 2018)

    Hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    They aimed too high, too soon. Ken doesn’t want any Icarus shit goin’ down on his watch.”0

  166. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Gret99zky:
    “I told the players today that I can get them to a place they can’t get to themselves.” – Ken Hitchcock (December 2018)

    Hahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    They aimed too high, too soon. Ken doesn’t want any Icarus shit goin’ down on his watch.

  167. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Surely they’ve reached rock bottom……,, no?

  168. OriginalPouzar says:

    Missed the last 10 minutes and OT last night but Condors make it 15 straight wins – Marody from Benson and Lagesson in OT.

    Skinner stops 19 of 20 for the win.

    A great skilled offensive play by Marody to win it (and the highlights show the great pull away from Yamamoto earlier in the game):

    https://twitter.com/Condors/status/1097018134760873985

  169. OriginalPouzar says:

    Not sure the trade is the immediate and laughable loss that some posit (click the link for the heat maps):

    https://twitter.com/IneffectiveMath/status/1096820523630297088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1096820523630297088&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.roughingafterthewhistle.com%2FThread-Game-Thread-2019-NHL-trade-deadline-thread%3Fpage%3D3

    View image on TwitterView image on Twitter

    Micah Blake McCurdy
    @IneffectiveMath
    Ryan Spooner (to Vancouver) is a defensively weak third-liner who doesn’t generate much offence but finishes chances well. Sam Gagner (to Edmonton) is middling defensively, drives offence at 5v5 and 5v4 well, and finishes poorly.
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    10:16 AM – Feb 16, 2019

  170. OriginalPouzar says:

    Glovjuice: Yup, my guess is that OP hasn’t been invested as long as you or I. Maybe he has but I’d be curious to find out.

    100% I have – almost exactly as I am 42 years old and my “school diaries” from grade 1 are filled with the play by play of each game.

    To be clear, I’m not judging how any one else chooses to fan but intentionally not watching games but then spending hours a day discussing the team doesn’t make sense to me, I just don’t understand it.

    Going on a sports forum (and other forums of social media) to discuss the team during the game while intentionally not watching the games in the name of “got better things to do” doesn’t make sense to me.

    To each their own.

    Personally, I’m socked for Tuesday to see Sekera play in the NHL – the end result is likely a loss – I’m sure there will be many happenings in the 2:45 from 7-9:45 that captivate my attention and are entertaining for me so, yes, I will wake up early and get to the office early in the name of ensuring I can get home from the office for game time.

    A huge part of this team’s future is tied to Sekera’s effectiveness – either by adding the player himself to the lineup going forward or the ability to trade him for cap space and/or even a good return (given he is a very good hockey player) – watching the game will provide me with information on this part of the future.

  171. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sierra: This I agree with, but I wonder if the Oilers really wanted a goalie in return. Otherwise, who would be backing up MK?

    A goalie in return for Talbot was an absolute must – Skinner and Wells are not options this year and Starrett needs to stay with the Condors.

    I’m just concerned that the organization may not be concerned with the asset being a UFA itself which would mean the intent of the trade is 2018/19 cap space – cap space which shouldn’t be needed (unless adding a material player that will help beyond this season).

  172. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors are 3rd overall in the AHL in both points and points percentage (which is more important as not all teams play the same amount of games for the year). I can’t speak to the other teams but that is pretty darn good considering so many important pieces are rookie pros (Benson, Marody, Lagesson, Day) and second year pros (Jones, Bear, S. Starrett, Joe G.) in addition to some veterans (P. Russell, K. Lowe, J. Currie, R. Stanton).

    My concern is the lineup being a bit decimated with call-ups after the deadline when the Oilers shed some players.

  173. Yeti says:

    OriginalPouzar: To be clear, I’m not judging how any one else chooses to fan but intentionally not watching games but then spending hours a day discussing the team doesn’t make sense to me, I just don’t understand it.

    The answer, I believe, is that some people are bigger fans of Lowetide the forum than of the team. I would qualify in this category. This place, not the team, is the draw. The Oil could be (deservedly) relegated to the AHL for gross incompetence and I’d still be dropping by here to keep up with the posts.

  174. OriginalPouzar says:

    I didn’t see the last 10 minutes and OT last night but, prior to that, Sekera looked very good last night.

    He’s ready to go and I assume will be activated for the game on Tuesday – so excited to see him play.

    Who will be re-assigned – Manning has been the healthy scratch the last few games – will he get waived over Petrovic and Gravel?

    Who will get re-assigned when Benning is activated – will they make the “safe and easy play” in Malone? It might just be Jesse – hopefully. Lets get a full re-set for this high potential 20 year old prospect.

  175. meanashell11 says:

    danny: I’ve been an Oilers fan since I was 7 years old, that was back in 1983. I live in Newfoundland, a province that’s 3.5 hours ahead of AB time. The true fandom took hold when I was about 9. Which meant figuring a way to pretend I was alseep, and watch / listen to the game that started 11:30pm my time, or set an alarm so that my parents were asleep and I could be awake for the 3rd period of games on ITV. Worst case scenario I could wake up for the ITV sportscast at 3:30am and get a complete recap. Tim Spellisey maybe?

    This devotion continued year after year. I’d literally have a bad stomach after losses. After the dynasty years, I usually had charts created on the back of any posters I had, to track the remaining schedule of the oilers, the kings, the flames, and the last playoff spot. I’d run scenarios over and over and convince myself they would make it.

    My entire life is intertwined with insignificant but meaningful memories that came with being a diehard Oilers fan. Remember when Radek Dvorak scored that huge goal against Dallas? How about the renewed excitement with Zdeno Ciger, Jason Arnott and Doug Weight line? The list of mundane memorable moments with my love for the Oilers is neverending. The list goes on and on.

    You can flippantly dismiss this all you want, but for the first time in my life since I was 7 years old, I am ok with missing Oilers games on television. It’s not a conscious choice, it’s just reality for me now… it’s like that friendor child that you wish more than anything to have success, but it doesn’t happen. After a while, you ask them how things are going less and less, you stop wondering, in time, too.

    7-year-old-me would be completely ashamed of my apathy today. 42 year old me would know the difference.

    Yup. This is me…..

  176. hags9k says:

    danny: I’ve been an Oilers fan since I was 7 years old, that was back in 1983. I live in Newfoundland, a province that’s 3.5 hours ahead of AB time. The true fandom took hold when I was about 9. Which meant figuring a way to pretend I was alseep, and watch / listen to the game that started 11:30pm my time, or set an alarm so that my parents were asleep and I could be awake for the 3rd period of games on ITV. Worst case scenario I could wake up for the ITV sportscast at 3:30am and get a complete recap. Tim Spellisey maybe?

    This devotion continued year after year. I’d literally have a bad stomach after losses. After the dynasty years, I usually had charts created on the back of any posters I had, to track the remaining schedule of the oilers, the kings, the flames, and the last playoff spot. I’d run scenarios over and over and convince myself they would make it.

    My entire life is intertwined with insignificant but meaningful memories that came with being a diehard Oilers fan. Remember when Radek Dvorak scored that huge goal against Dallas? How about the renewed excitement with Zdeno Ciger, Jason Arnott and Doug Weight line? The list of mundane memorable moments with my love for the Oilers is neverending. The list goes on and on.

    You can flippantly dismiss this all you want, but for the first time in my life since I was 7 years old, I am ok with missing Oilers games on television. It’s not a conscious choice, it’s just reality for me now… it’s like that friendor child that you wish more than anything to have success, but it doesn’t happen. After a while, you ask them how things are going less and less, you stop wondering, in time, too.

    7-year-old-me would be completely ashamed of my apathy today. 42 year old me would know the difference.

    This post damn near brings me to tears. Perfectly said. I hope someday we can all feel like we are 7 again with this team, but I fear for a lot of us, the damage is irreversible.

  177. deardylan says:

    Welcome back Pouzar. This place isnt the same without you. More Pouzar please!

  178. Todd Macallan says:

    danny,

    As a 34 yr old born Edmontonian now living in NL, there is not a word of out place and I couldn’t describe my own feelings any better. Here’s to better days for all of us.

  179. jake70 says:

    danny: I’ve been an Oilers fan since I was 7 years old, that was back in 1983. I live in Newfoundland, a province that’s 3.5 hours ahead of AB time. The true fandom took hold when I was about 9. Which meant figuring a way to pretend I was alseep, and watch / listen to the game that started 11:30pm my time, or set an alarm so that my parents were asleep and I could be awake for the 3rd period of games on ITV. Worst case scenario I could wake up for the ITV sportscast at 3:30am and get a complete recap.

    Danny, you watched Oiler games on TV in the 80s living in Newfoundland???Was every game available?

  180. texmex says:

    texmex,

    Wow!!! This post is perfect and is eerily similar to where I stand. I grew up on the rock as well, and am 41 years old. I remember getting my dad to record the games on VHS, and I would get up and watch them before school to see who won (before tsn).The 1990 SCF (Klima ot winner) stands out in my mind especially.
    This is the first year I have not purchased nhl center ice since 2002. I haven’t watched a game this season, even though a number of oilers games have been NBCSN. I do like to visit this site to get sense of how the game is going, but can’t bring myself to watch pro hockey players continually make blatant errors, not tie up their man in front, just not performing fundamentals of hockey.

  181. Psyche says:

    Since we are all sharing…invested Jets fan from 1979-1996 while living in the Peg (Canada’s greatest city) and after moving to Edmonton…started cheering for the Oilers during the 1997 playoffs…became an invested Oilers fan the following 1997-98 season and have been on board ever since.

    When the Jets returned it was tempting to cheer for them, but I was too invested to the Oilers. I do have a soft spot for the Jets (v2.0). They are my play-off team, since the Oilers…well you know.

  182. Ryan says:

    Off topic, I always find the Canadiens to be a curious team in that their roster never looks particularly good on paper, Bergevin is in conversations with Chiarelli though not quite as bad, yet they’ve made the playoffs 8 out of the past 13 seasons.

    Yeah, Price.

    Still they always seem to have a terrible year, draft well and retool a bit then make the playoffs the next year while we just continue to suck year after year.

  183. Wilde says:

    JimmyV1965: How do Kakko’s stats stack up historically?

    Behind Barkov and no other Finn from the post-summit ’09-to-now era.

    Better goal-scorer than Barkov (or Laine) too. I don’t mean like, as a shooter, just that he has more goals. Occupies a space somewhere in between a Matthews and a Svechnikov in quality of prospect imo.

  184. Fgary says:

    Yeti: The answer, I believe, is that some people are bigger fans of Lowetide the forum than of the team. I would qualify in this category. This place, not the team, is the draw. The Oil could be (deservedly) relegated to the AHL for gross incompetence and I’d still be dropping by here to keep up with the posts.

    +1,000,000,000

  185. Drew says:

    Woodguy v2.0: In his pre-game avail Hitch said Koski has never played a back to back in the KHL or NHL.

    And Pete gave him 3 x 4.5

    This stuff writes itself. Any other industry just that is a “walked out the door” event but in NHL hockey it happens. Sadly it happens in Oilerville more than any place.

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