It Might As Well Be Spring

The Edmonton Oilers won last night. Ken Hitchcock: “We came back again. We stayed with it, we battled, clawed and scratched. There’s a lot of continuity in our game right now.”

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Lowetide: Are the 2018-19 Bakersfield Condors the best Edmonton Oilers affiliate ever?
  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘One of the best hockey games ever’: An oral history of the 2014 women’s Olympic gold-medal game.
  • Lowetide: How can the Oilers successfully sell the new regime to a fan base that is openly angry?
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade deadline primer: Focus should be on moves that make life easier for the next GM
  • Lowetide: Cam Talbot’s Oilers career a disappointment save one beautiful spring.
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s trade for Sam Gagner is a gamble well worth making.
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Jonathan Willis: Taking stock of Oilers positives as they enter the final third of a dismal 2018-19 season.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Jonathan Willis: Teams should beware of these players at the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Lowetide: Entry deal AHL forwards give the Oilers an excellent trade pool.
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Corey Pronman: 2019 NHL Draft midseason rankings
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 60

  • Oilers in 2015: 22-32-6, 50 points; goal differential -31
  • Oilers in 2016: 32-20-8, 72 points; goal differential +12
  • Oilers in 2017: 25-31-4, 54 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018: 25-29-6, 56 points; goal differential -24

The Oilers still have a shot at (say) 82 points. That isn’t going to get them into the playoffs but it will be a slight season over season improvement. Considering all that has taken place, that’s a worthy goal.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-8-0, four points; goal differential -19
  • Oilers in February 2017: 5-5-0, 10 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 2-7-1, five points; goal differential -5
  • Oilers in February 2019: 2-5-3, seven points; goal differential -11

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Philadelphia, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-2)
  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Pittsburgh, Carolina, NY Islanders (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, NY Islanders, Anaheim (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 2-5-3, seven points in 10 games

Edmonton is six out with a game in hand, but the real problem is passing six other teams on the way to the final playoff spot.

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Sekera-Benning were 15-6 in 10:04, 8-4 shots, 1-0 goals and 1-2 HDSC. This pairing is going to take on more of the load if they stay together. Some nice outlets. Went 7-1 in 4:54 against Komarov-Filppula-Beauvillier.
  • Klefbom-Larsson went 23-15 in 16:10, 12-10 shots, 0-1 goals and 4-4 HDSC. The only 5-on-5 GA came against this pairing. Larsson raced back from the blue line scrum, but couldn’t find Lee. Went 14-8 in 9:45 against Nelson-Lee-Eberle.
  • Nurse-Russell went 11-15 in 17:04 (10-8 Fenwick), 7-5 shots, no goals and 2-3 HDSC. I thought they defended well, but the penalties will ill-timed. Went 5-9 in 7:28 against Kuhnackl-Bailey-Barzal.
  • Mikko Koskinen stopped 20 of 23, .870. At 5-on-5, that number is .950 (19 of 20).
  • NaturalStatTruck and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Nuge-Draisaitl-Chiasson were 20-15 in 15:34, 11-6 shots, no goals and 5-3 HDSC. The line was impressive and played a ton.
  • Gagner-McDavid-Kassian went 11-2 in 8:04, 5-0 shots, no goals and 2-0 HDSC. Gagner joined the band mid-game (Rattie demoted) and the results were instantaneous.
  • Rieder-Cave-Gagner were 6-3 in 4:39, 5-1 shots, 1-0 goals and no HDSC. An effective third line last night, one of very few since the Strome trade. This Cave fellow is impressing.
  • Rattie-McDavid-Kassian went 1-8 in 4:19, 1-4 shots, 0-1 goals and 0-4 HDSC. Doubt we see that trio again.
  • Lucic-Brodziak-Currie were 5-4 in 3:25, 0-2 shots, no goals and 1-0 HDSC. A strange group of stats, to be sure. I thought Lucic played well, and Currie showed enough for another game. Brodziak was good in the faceoff circle and effective in a No. 4 center role imo.

CONNOR MCDAVID

I’ll guess a fine, but smart people like Bob McKenzie believe he’ll get a suspension. Either way, it won’t impact the playoff race. Why? You damned well know why.

MILAN LUCIC TRADE ARROW

Once the $3 million bonus is paid out early summer, the actual dollar amount of Milan Lucic’s contract next season will be $3 million.

This is terrific, save for the fact many of these players (and the coach) may not be back. A key goal for the next manager will be improving depth and balance across the roster. One area we did discover as a positive this season? The kids in the AHL. Caleb Jones was a breath of fresh air.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy Friday morning with a fun group of guests. TSN1260 beginning at 10, scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, BigMouthSports. The television trade deadline shows and how can game hosts and commentators deliver the truth about the bad home team without souring his or her relationship with the local fans?
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. We’ll chat McDavid suspension, trade deadline.
  • Scott Tilbury, Fund Development Officer, The Mustard Seed Red Deer. We’ll chat about the Boston Bruins Alumni Charity Game and Banquet in Red Deer on March 17.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar: I going to get this clarified but, his number of required accrued seasons reduced from 5 to 3 b/c he played more than 11 games as an 18 year old.

    This will be his third accrued season.

    I think he loses his exemption next year but will confirm when I can.

    I’ve confirmed, because his required number of accrued seasons reduced from 5 to 3 due to games played in his 18 year old season, Puljujarvi will require waivers next season even if he doesn’t play another game this year.

  2. YKOil says:

    Washington just signed Jensen to a 4yr deal. $500k more than what I was looking at but pretty much what I was looking at.

    Yet we have Manning.

    Chiarelli, you are the stupidest f&*k of stupidest f&*ks… I have rarely ever been so angry as to want to smash my computer screen.

    For a 2nd round pick Washington shores up their RHD for 4 yrs yet we blow our minds out on Spooner, Manning and Petrovic.

    F&*K!

  3. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: I’ve confirmed, because his required number of accrued seasons reduced from 5 to 3 due to games played in his 18 year old season, Puljujarvi will require waivers next season even if he doesn’t play another game this year.

    Carolina will be watching the waiver wire. #WaitingForJesse

  4. texmex says:

    2 games seems a bit much.

    Yet another reason I’ve lost interest in the nhl. Zero consistency.

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another great benefit of playing Jesse in the NHL as an 18 year old……. sigh!

  6. OmJo says:

    NHL Player Safety
    @NHLPlayerSafety
    Edmonton’s Connor McDavid will have a hearing today for an Illegal Check to the Head on NY Islanders’ Nick Leddy.

    Travis Yost
    @travisyost
    Replying to @NHLPlayerSafety
    isn’t edmonton punishment enough folks,

  7. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Another great benefit of playing Jesse in the NHL as an 18 year old……. sigh!

    Actually, a great benefit of NOT playing Jesse in the NHL while playing Jesse in the NHL as an 18-year old. In his first year, he was Schrodinger’s Jesse. Was he playing, or was he NOT playing?

  8. Bank Shot says:

    OriginalPouzar: Doesn’t look that way through a couple of game.Engaged and positive play both nights.Of course, if your mind is made up and/or your not watching the games themselves…..

    He’s played okay the last couple of games.

    I’m basing my opinion more on the last 200 games of his career though.

  9. Lucic n Chong says:

    OP, which prospect are you most excited about? Benson or Yamamoto? Perhaps other?

    Ofc Wilde makes a great case for Jones, but we all know they go unnoticed. (Re: Petry Thanks MacT!)

  10. Professor Q says:

    Hopefully he speaks out, and the team rallies behind him. Any other player would have snapped and likely seriously injured another player if they went through what he has had to for the past 4 years.

    Enough of the biased shyte from the NHL and DOPS.

  11. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar: His scoring rates are greater than his offensive beauty.

    He doesn’t look great out there offensively or seem to have plus offensive instincts but we are now almost 2 full seasons where he’s produced (don’t forget all his points last year were at evens).

    Yup, he was top 30 in ES pts IIRC. 27th or 17 I think? I was calling for him to get PP time and he didn’t disappoint when Klef went down.

    He make a bad play every little while but he just turned 24 this month. Still plenty of time for him to improve.

  12. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    stephen sheps,

    #protip thanks!

    I avoid cheap Scotch like Glenfiddich and especially blends, so probably safe there but now that I know about chill filtering I’ll keep an eye out when I make my next purchase. A quick glance at a favourite (Tobermory 10) confirms as a candidate for an experiment with a wee press, stating “Non-chillfiltered @ 46.3% ABV” on their website.

    Out of curiosity, what would you say is similar to Tobermory 10 and worth a try?

  13. Gerta Rauss says:

    OriginalPouzar

    This will be his third accrued season.

    I think he loses his exemption next year but will confirm when I can.

    I was going to say something last night but didn’t have time to do the research. Pretty sure it’s “or” and Jesse will be subject to waivers in the fall

  14. Oiler_Kiwi97 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    Deanston 12yo. Ledaig 10yo is the smoky version of Tobermory

  15. OmJo says:

    Bank Shot: He’s played okay the last couple of games.

    I’m basing my opinion more on the last 200 games of his career though.

    Over his last 200 games (going off Phily, CBJ and Van last season) he’s got like what, 97pts? Lol that’s hardly done at the NHL level, IMO.

  16. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Oiler_Kiwi97,

    Fantastic, thanks.

    I cannot abide a peaty Scotch… just not compatible with my palette. Oban is about my limit.

  17. flyfish1168 says:

    Connor hit was not intentional. Liddy not going to miss any games.

    Crosby wack intentional and Methot miss a few games Crosby zero

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HpS3ECqkdA

    Hitting unintentional versus intentional. Optics not good

  18. silasbengtsson says:

    I don’t know if this has been discussed but the details of the Hagelin trade are an excellent sign for the eventual Lucic trade. Hagelin’s base deal of 4mil has 250k retained from it by Pittsburgh during the Pearson trade and LA retained a further 1.875mil of the 3.75mil that remained from the Pittsburgh trade. This means that the cut-off for cap retention is 50% of the value of the contract for the team when it was acquired. I had previously thought it was a maximum of 50% of the contract’s base value when signed.

    If you’re like me and weren’t aware of this details, this opens up a whole new set of doors for a Lucic trade!

  19. Nit64 says:

    OmJo: isn’t edmonton punishment enough folks,

    Yost has it backwards. It’s more like Pete Mahovlich got a gig at Player Safety and rewarded Oil fans with 2 nights off their Oiler TV sentence. Like our host headlined this morning, without 97 It might as well be Spring.

  20. Nit64 says:

    flyfish1168:
    Connor hit was not intentional. Liddy not going to miss any games.

    Crosby wack intentional and Methot miss a few games Crosby zero

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HpS3ECqkdA

    Hitting unintentional versus intentional. Optics not good

    ~ Oh it’s all good. The real reason they gave 97 two games was to let the players who have been intentionally gooning McDavid that the free ride is over and they’ll get way more than two games next time. ~

  21. Scungilli Slushy says:

    flyfish1168:
    Connor hit was not intentional. Liddy not going to miss any games.

    Crosby wack intentional and Methot miss a few games Crosby zero

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HpS3ECqkdA

    Hitting unintentional versus intentional. Optics not good

    The correct response is to get a proper POHO and GM and lay waste to the league, just like in olden times.

  22. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Nit64: ~ Oh it’s all good. The real reason they gave 97 two games was to let the players who have been intentionally gooning McDavid that the free ride is over and they’ll get way more than two games next time. ~

    “Shit, that kid has more balls than we thought. Crap. Give him 2 so that he doesn’t start taking matters into his own hands. If he keeps it up we’ll give him 10!”

  23. Bank Shot says:

    OmJo: Over his last 200 games (going off Phily, CBJ and Van last season) he’s got like what, 97pts? Lol that’s hardly done at the NHL level, IMO.

    I think he’s not good at even strength and every other NHL team would have better options.

  24. Bulging Twine says:

    Woodguy v2.0:

    That’s a nice place to start and you can work Bouchard in when he shows he’s dominating the AHL.

    Exactly the right development plan.
    Development can be called managing or developing confidence. Especially a player that you draft to be a top end player.

  25. Sierra says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    dustrock,

    OP mentioned the other day that JP hasn’t played enough games to require waivers next season.

    To date, JP has played 139 NHL games, and per CapFriendly he is waivers exempt until 160 NHL games played.So, presumably, JP won’t need to clear waivers until he plays 21 more games.

    waivers required beginning 2019-20 or after 21 more games played this season.

    https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-calculator/jesse-puljujarvi

  26. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Loved the way they played last night save for the last 8 minutes of the first.

    To my eye the key was 2 of the 3 dpairs stepping up at the opposition blue, red line and their own blue to force the issue and turn over the puck.

    EDM owned the neutral zone last night and have been much better at this.

    Also,

    Seksey is looking Seksey again.Those who wrote him off and talked of buying him out can now comfortably change their mind.

    Its still prudent to slot him at 3LD next year, but that’s worlds better than buyout.

    Allows the team to trade Russell to free up Cap for an Actual NHL 2nd pair RHD.

    77-6
    25-Actual NHL 2nd Pair RHD
    2-83

    That’s a nice place to start and you can work Bouchard in when he shows he’s dominating the AHL.

    Jones and Laggesson are cover for injuries and they’ll show if they are NHL ready as well.Jones pretty much is.

    Yup.

    A capable GM should be able to spend Katz’ money and clear a fair bit of dead cap out to those it would help in some way. Lucic at least is still a marquee player for many fans, a name that can help fill seats.

    Some health and a couple of Dzingel type deals and they are off to the races IMO.

    Maybe even a higher end cost controlled type might be available if they know what to look for.

  27. Klima's_Bucket says:

    On the ensuing shift after the Pens/Sharks scrum the other day Phil Kessel deliberately whacked Erik Karlsson across the face and received a 2 minute penalty. Nowhere near the puck. No phone call. No hearing.

    NHL Player Safety is real.
    And it’s spectacular…ly bad.

  28. Todd Macallan says:

    Connor “pursuing his options” as per Bobby Nicks.

    Appeal incoming.

  29. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nicholson:

    “We are highly disappointed in the NHL’s decision to suspend Connor McDavid for two games. We strongly disagree with the decision & it is difficult to accept for our team & most important our fans at this critical point in our season. We will unequivocally support Connor as he explores his options”

  30. Scungilli Slushy says:

    texmex:
    This reads weird. JP doesn’t trust team doctors I guess?

    Jason Gregor
    @JasonGregor
    ·
    27s
    Puljujarvi and his agent want a 2nd opinion on his injury. He will go see Doctor in USA next Tuesday and then they will make decision. #Oilers

    Not good. Jease’s agent is doily him no favours if he wants to stay in the NHL. It’s still old boy enough that teams won’t want troubles.

  31. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Nicholson:

    “We are highly disappointed in the NHL’s decision to suspend Connor McDavid for two games. We strongly disagree with the decision & it is difficult to accept for our team & most important our fans at this critical point in our season. We will unequivocally support Connor as he explores his options”

    That is good. Good management stands behind their players. Fans coming in for the weekend just to see McDavid play should voice their displeasure. Things happen and it happens fast. There was no intent. I would love to see Player safety admit the phucked up

  32. OmJo says:

    Bank Shot: I think he’s not good at even strength and every other NHL team would have better options.

    I’ll easily admit I’m biased when it comes to Gagner.

    I’ll also admit I haven’t watched his last 200 games and am not sure what kind of player he is today.

  33. OmJo says:

    flyfish1168: That is good. Good management stands behind their players. Fans coming in for the weekend just to see McDavid play should voice their displeasure. Things happen and it happens fast. There was no intent. I would love to see Player safety admit the phucked up

    According to some it was a late hit.

  34. flyfish1168 says:

    OmJo: According to some it was a late hit.

    LMAO. We here have all seem more than our share of later hits on our players with no call. It is really becoming a joke.

  35. OmJo says:

    Kind of wish Spector, instead of defending the leagues decision to suspend McDavid two games, used that time and effort to highlight the glaring inconsistency from the Department of Player Safety….

  36. Wilde says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Seksey is looking Seksey again. Those who wrote him off and talked of buying him out can now comfortably change their mind.

    Its still prudent to slot him at 3LD next year, but that’s worlds better than buyout.

    Allows the team to trade Russell to free up Cap for an Actual NHL 2nd pair RHD.

    77-6
    25-Actual NHL 2nd Pair RHD
    2-83

    That’s a nice place to start and you can work Bouchard in when he shows he’s dominating the AHL.
    Jones and Laggesson are cover for injuries and they’ll show if they are NHL ready as well. Jones pretty much is.

    Brisk, sharp outline here for a route that’s exceedingly easy to undertake-

    Literally two moves to having an above average (and could push top-10 depending on who “2nd pair RHD” is and if Sekera’s as good as he looks now) defense corps at full health, and not nearly as vulnerable to injury as the past couple years.

    I think the hell to be inherited by the next GM is a bit overblown and in a way clears a path for excusing failure. I want to write more on this (as it’s in the arena for which my blog was originally created) but my plate’s full.

    The forward group is the part that’s obscenely bad and pretty hard to turn into a top-10 collective without trading Nurse and getting a coach that isn’t neurotic wrt Puljujärvi. The D-corps has realistic, easy fixes that the org should be hit over the head with if they don’t pursue them.

  37. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Of course we are biased on this but 2 games seems like the very high extreme for the incident in question doesn’t it?
    Let’s say Mathews is in the same situation to remove bias. Can we agree the range of punishment expected based on past inconsistency of nhl discipline dept would be nothing to maybe 2 games?? Also consider this is a first time alleged offender.
    Just more evidence that Oilers management has 0 credibility with the league. Would be a different story for 1 of Lou’s players I’m sure

  38. Jethro Tull says:

    Jesse Puljusouray.

  39. OriginalPouzar says:

    H
    Bank Shot: He’s played okay the last couple of games.

    I’m basing my opinion more on the last 200 games of his career though.

    Are you including the 50 point season in there? Its quite recent and well within those 200 games.

    He’s also not even 30 yet.

    I’m not going to get my hopes too far up, however, $3M is middle six/3rd line money and I’m cautiously optimistic he can provide middle six/3rd line play. He seems like a much more mature player as far as board work, defensive responsibility, game management, etc and those were parts of his deficiency as a younger player trying to be a top 6 guy.

    Time will tell.

  40. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Erik Karlsson got 2 games for a similar hit.

    SK Oiler Fan,

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lucic n Chong:
    OP, which prospect are you most excited about? Benson or Yamamoto? Perhaps other?

    Ofc Wilde makes a great case for Jones, but we all know they go unnoticed. (Re: Petry Thanks MacT!)

    I’ve been propping up Tyler Benson for 2 years now – basically since he stated to play again – he’s a very smart and very skilled player

    My underdog is become a name now – I’ve been a William Lagesson fan since i saw him in the prospects tournament in Penticton a few years ago – he was a much better skater and puck mover than I anticipated (I anticipated a Gryba type defender). He is the “new age” type of defensive d-man – mobile, some skill, etc.

    I’ll stop there and won’t even get in to junior players as I’ve followed these guys so closely over the last while that a bunch of them give me excitement re: their potential (which, of course, not all (or even most) will reach….).

  42. OriginalPouzar says:

    Gerta Rauss: I was going to say something last night but didn’t have time to do the research. Pretty sure it’s “or” and Jesse will be subject to waivers in the fall

    Ya, I already confirmed it – blah!

    It would be less of a big deal if he was healthy and got the rest of the year there – if that was the case I’d feel more confident about his chances out of camp next year.

    Now I worry about surgery, being shut down for the year, a short summer (or even missing camp) all along with a contract discussion among parties that aren’t quite on the same page.

  43. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bank Shot: I think he’s not good at even strength and every other NHL team would have better options.

    Not good enough at even strength for what?

    Last year, on his entry level deal, he finished 35th among all NHL d-men in points at evens.

    This year, making $3.1M, he is 27th in the NHL among all NHL d-men in points at evens.

    Oh, wait, we are talking Gagner not Nurse – my mistake. Well, in his 50 point season in Columbus, contrary to what many thing, it wasn’t all on the PP – he produced at evens and at a top line rate.

    He was third on the Jackets in scoring at 5 on 5 with 29 points producing at 2.02 P/60 – first line rates actually.

  44. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bulging Twine: Exactly the right development plan.
    Development can be called managing or developing confidence.Especially a player that you draft to be a top end player.

    Absolutely, and the organization should finally have the luxury of enough NHL depth (both experienced players and graduating prospects) to allow him the privilege of development time. They must take advantage even if he’s PPG in the preseason (which he might be – and it would not mean he’s NHL ready).

  45. Jethro Tull says:

    I’m gonna say that maybe Connor was unrepentant at on the phone. Maybe just shrugged and said “yeah, nad hit. Had worse. With no call. With a ref 20′ away looking straight at it.”

  46. OriginalPouzar says:

    OmJo: According to some it was a late hit.

    How is that possible? Leddy had the puck as McDavid hit him….

  47. Bank Shot says:

    OriginalPouzar: Not good enough at even strength for what?

    Last year, on his entry level deal, he finished 35th among all NHL d-men in points at evens.

    This year, making $3.1M, he is 27th in the NHL among all NHL d-men in points at evens.

    Not good enough at even strength play to be a top nine option at the NHL level.

    Which is why he’s been sent to the AHL by two different orgs in the last few years.

  48. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Klima’s_Bucket,

    I’ll acknowledge some similarity. Karlson impact force looks to be higher though

  49. OriginalPouzar says:

    Samorukov with a primary assist on a second period goal for Guelph – I can’t wait to see this guy in the OHL playoffs and in Bakersfield next year – such a great tool kit and he’s coming along so very well.

  50. Professor Q says:

    Jethro Tull:
    I’m gonna say that maybe Connor was unrepentant at on the phone. Maybe just shrugged and said “yeah, nad hit. Had worse. With no call. With a ref 20′ away looking straight at it.”

    I sincerely hope he took the time to rip into Parros and his moustache.

  51. Bulging Twine says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Samorukov with a primary assist on a second period goal for Guelph – I can’t wait to see this guy in the OHL playoffs and in Bakersfield next year – such a great tool kit and he’s coming along so very well.

    He looks strong

  52. Klima's_Bucket says:

    SK Oiler Fan,

    I don’t like how the suspension either.
    But if a Superstar first time offender like Karlsson got two games for a similar hit then I can see the rationale for why McDavid got two.

    But I can’t see how repeat offenders like Wilson and Gudas continue to get away with lighter sentences than warranted.

  53. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Professor Q,

    If you mustache the question…

  54. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bank Shot: Not good enough at even strength play to be a top nine option at the NHL level.

    Which is why he’s been sent to the AHL by two different orgs in the last few years.

    Well the near 100 points in those 200 games and the season of 50 points while being third on the team in 5 on 5 scoring with top line scoring rates of 2.02 P/60 show that he does have the offence to play in the top 9.

    One could posit that maybe he took the recent AHL stint to heart and realizes what needs to be done, in addition to producing offence, if he’s to stay in the league.

    2 games is a really tiny sample, granted, but he’s played well in both games and not just offensively.

    One game at at a time.

  55. OriginalPouzar says:

    John Marino with a goal for Harvard – insurance goal in a 4-2 game – he started to produce the last few weeks.

    Rasanen with a PP goal to bring C. College within one heading to the third.

  56. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard with a primary assist in a London insurance goal in the third.

  57. LMHF#1 says:

    Klima’s_Bucket:
    SK Oiler Fan,

    I don’t like how the suspension either.
    But if a Superstar first time offender like Karlsson got two games for a similar hit then I can see the rationale for why McDavid got two.

    But I can’t see how repeat offenders like Wilson and Gudas continue to get away with lighter sentences than warranted.

    Or why Cal Clutterbuck is allowed to play in the league period.

    Gets away with this crap all the time.

    And let’s not even discuss that puke Kesler.

  58. Caller Zen says:

    OmJo:
    Kind of wish Spector, instead of defending the leagues decision to suspend McDavid two games, used that time and effort to highlight the glaring inconsistency from the Department of Player Safety….

    Spector actually defended the suspension?? I don’t want to give that knob a single clickbait, but I’m seriously surprised he defended it. Craig Button was also calling for “absolutely” a two game suspension. I like how the Oilers are the underdogs in this joke league, but this has gotten way out of hand.

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard finishes with just the one assist but was named the games’ second start – 5 shots on net.

  60. Bank Shot says:

    OriginalPouzar: Well the near 100 points in those 200 games and the season of 50 points while being third on the team in 5 on 5 scoring with top line scoring rates of 2.02 P/60 show that he does have the offence to play in the top 9.

    One could posit that maybe he took the recent AHL stint to heart and realizes what needs to be done, in addition to producing offence, ifhe’s to stay in the league.

    2 games is a really tiny sample, granted, but he’s played well in both games and not just offensively.

    One game at at a time.

    I’m not sure how you stay so positive after watching this franchise operate for the last ten years.

    Betting on Gagner to recover is a bad bet, and its the type of bet these guys have been making for years.

    They almost always crap out.

  61. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar: How is that possible?Leddy had the puck as McDavid hit him….

    Scott Wheeler
    @ScottCWheeler
    McDavid should be suspended for a game or two for the Leddy hit. A fine doesn’t send a message. Suspending the best player in the world does. If that’s anyone else, it’s a no brainer. Late and primary point of contact is the head, after he had time adjust.

  62. Jethro Tull says:

    OriginalPouzar: How is that possible?Leddy had the puck as McDavid hit him….

    Because a guy that only played because he was good at beating people up said so….

  63. leadfarmer says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Not good. Jease’s agent is doily him no favours if he wants to stay in the NHL. It’s still old boy enough that teams won’t want troubles.

    I don’t understand this.
    Fairly standard to get a second opinion
    Lots of regular patients get a second opinion and their livelihood isn’t threatened if things don’t heal up perfectly
    Most professional athletes in North America go to a small handful of orthopedic surgeons for their evaluation and they vary depending on body part
    JP is doing what a lot of professional athletes do

  64. OmJo says:

    Caller Zen: Spector actually defended the suspension?? I don’t want to give that knob a single clickbait, but I’m seriously surprised he defended it. Craig Button was also calling for “absolutely” a two game suspension.I like how the Oilers are the underdogs in this joke league, but this has gotten way out of hand.

    My favourite part:

    At the time of the hit, at 17:38 of the first period, there was absolutely no disputing what had occurred. McDavid had his arm tucked tight to his body, did not thrust forward to make the hit any worse, and calmly skated through Leddy at a right angle. Perhaps Leddy slowed down a touch at the end, throwing the angle off — whatever.

    It was a perfectly innocuous body check, as McDavid used his body to separate a player from the puck. But mistakenly (we’ll assume) he contacted only Leddy’s head. McDavid was issued a two-minute penalty for an illegal check to the head, and no one in the house disputed the accuracy of the call.

    That we’ll assume add in. Questioning his character. As if he’d intentionally try to take Leddy’s head off for no reason.

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bank Shot: I’m not sure how you stay so positive after watching this franchise operate for the last ten years.

    Betting on Gagner to recover is a bad bet, and its the type of bet these guys have been making for years.

    They almost always crap out.

    There is the thing – the state of this franchise over the last 10 years has absolutely nothing to do with a realistic assessment of Gagner’s play over the last 200 game nor his play in his two games as an Oiler.

    The level of production that he has put up over his last 200 NHL games (the time frame you brought up) would provide value for his $3.1M next year – its not that bad of a bet that he could do just that.

    Not to mention, he’s still in his 20s although a more mature player than I remember (so far), he’s super happy to be back as and Oiler and next year he’ll be playing for a contract.

    Go Sam!

  66. stephen sheps says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    stephen sheps,

    #protip thanks!

    I avoid cheap Scotch like Glenfiddich and especially blends, so probably safe there but now that I know about chill filtering I’ll keep an eye out when I make my next purchase.A quick glance at a favourite (Tobermory 10) confirms as a candidate for an experiment with a wee press, stating “Non-chillfiltered @ 46.3% ABV” on their website.

    Out of curiosity, what would you say is similar to Tobermory 10 and worth a try?

    Bunnahabhain 12 or 18 if you can afford it.
    Glendronach (everything they make is excellent)
    Caol Ila makes a few unpeated versions (I think a 15 & an 18)
    Bruichladdich Classic laddie or Islay Barley
    Old Pulteney 12
    Clynelish 14

    Those are good starting points based on what you described.

    When you’re ready to ease your way into peat drop me a line. I’ll be your Sherpa

  67. Nit64 says:

    leadfarmer: I don’t understand this.
    Fairly standard to get a second opinion
    Lots of regular patients get a second opinion and their livelihood isn’t threatened if things don’t heal up perfectly
    Most professional athletes in North America go to a small handful of orthopedic surgeons for their evaluation and they vary depending on body part
    JP is doing what a lot of professional athletes do

    If the team was pushing the surgery they can hardly complain if the 2nd opinion takes him past the A assignment date. The only scenario that would be truly all Souray Island would be if surgery was the teams 2nd choice after the A.

  68. OriginalPouzar says:

    OmJo: Scott Wheeler
    @ScottCWheeler
    McDavid should be suspended for a game or two for the Leddy hit. A fine doesn’t send a message. Suspending the best player in the world does. If that’s anyone else, it’s a no brainer. Late and primary point of contact is the head, after he had time adjust.

    It wasn’t even a split second late, not one iota – I’m not even positive the puck had left Leddy’s stick prior to contact being made.

    Such and odd statement by Wheeler – clearly had a narrative he wanted to spin.

  69. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar: It wasn’t even a split second late, not one iota – I’m not even positive the puck had left Leddy’s stick prior to contact being made.

    Such and odd statement by Wheeler – clearly had a narrative he wanted to spin.

    It’s honestly as if he didn’t even see the hit and yet is commenting on it.

    And this isn’t some troll with 3 followers and no profile picture talking. Otherwise I wouldn’t have even brought it up.

  70. Pescador says:

    stephen sheps: Bunnahabhain 12 or 18 if you can afford it.
    Glendronach (everything they make is excellent)
    Caol Ila makes a few unpeated versions (I think a 15 & an 18)
    Bruichladdich Classic laddie or Islay Barley
    Old Pulteney 12
    Clynelish 14

    Those are good starting points based on what you described.

    When you’re ready to ease your way into peat drop me a line. I’ll be your Sherpa

    Don’t you mean Shepa?

  71. CallighenMan says:

    OmJo: I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that was intentional by the Puljujarvi camp to keep him out of the AHL.

    Based on absolutely nothing but speculation and boredom so take it with a grain of Epsom salt.

    He can still be sent to the AHL, he just can’t play in the AHL playoffs if he isn’t down in Bakersfield by the 25th.

  72. stephen sheps says:

    Pescador: Don’t you mean Shepa?

    Well played. Very well played

  73. who says:

    OriginalPouzar: I would say the ideal is to keep Nurse and move Russell for the cap space to help with the 2RD – Myers, Stralman, Rutta, McQuaid, etc. There is also the possibility of a subsequent trade.

    Stralman as a stop-gap for a couple of years may be the play, no?

    I am a bit afraid of Nurse’s 3rd contract mind you.

    Rutta and Mcquaid shoot right.
    That is all they have in common with a 2RD.
    Might as well keep Russell.

  74. LMHF#1 says:

    They all have their talking points…that’s rather clear at this point. Absolute lock-step on this one…

  75. who says:

    pts2pndr: Small sample size!

    Big enough sample for my eyes.

  76. Klima's_Bucket says:

    who: Stralman as a stop-gap for a couple of years may be the play, no?

    Two things:

    1) Stralman has been a healthy scratch plenty of times this year.
    I wonder if father time has caught up to him if the Bolts are playing Girardi ahead of him.

    2) Brayden Point was scratched one game for skipping a team meeting. Imagine if he did that as an Oiler. Would he be Aberg’d out of town??

  77. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    stephen sheps,

    Sláinte mhaith, sir.

  78. CallighenMan says:

    OmJo:
    NHL Player Safety
    @NHLPlayerSafety
    Edmonton’s Connor McDavid will have a hearing today for an Illegal Check to the Head on NY Islanders’ Nick Leddy.

    Travis Yost
    @travisyost
    Replying to @NHLPlayerSafety
    isn’t edmonton punishment enough folks,

    Yost is an a$$hole, and buttfugly to boot

  79. OmJo says:

    CallighenMan: Yost is an a$$hole, and buttfugly to boot

    And can’t even use punctuation properly smh

  80. Wilde says:

    Colin Miller was a healthy scratch apparently.

    Don’t know if Gallant likes him and VGK like Gallant; either that or the healthy scratch means he’s on the market.

    Signed until 2022 for 3.875 per.

  81. flyfish1168 says:

    Intent is more dangerous than a brush of one’s head. That is what is important and why I feel the NHL got it wrong again.

    Interesting read

    https://thehockeynews.com/news/article/nhl-plays-no-favorites-by-suspending-connor-mcdavid-but-justice-should-go-both-ways

  82. pts2pndr says:

    Oilers should shut down McDavid for the rest of the season along with Draisaitl and Nuge. They should play their backup goal tender and go whole tank. At the deadline move all pending UFA’s. under no curcumstanceshould any Oiler player do an interview for the next two games. The league is a joke and I won’t be watching any hockey until Conner is back and will boycott this years playoffs. See you guys after the suspension!

  83. JimmyV1965 says:

    The situation with JP might be ugly, but the Oil still own his rights. They need to take a very tough stance. You either play in Europe next year or come here and risk being a healthy scratch. Trading him should not be an option. JP needs to do something to restore some of his value as an asset. A good season in Europe may just do that.

  84. Pescador says:

    OmJo:
    Kind of wish Spector, instead of defending the leagues decision to suspend McDavid two games, used that time and effort to highlight the glaring inconsistency from the Department of Player Safety….

    Kinda wish I could catch Spector on the concourse with his head down

  85. godot10 says:

    JimmyV1965:
    The situation with JP might be ugly, but the Oil still own his rights. They need to take a very tough stance. You either play in Europe next year or come here and risk being a healthy scratch. Trading him should not be an option.JP needs to do something to restore some of his value as an asset. A good season in Europe may just do that.

    Why would he go to Europe when he is waiver eligible next year? If I am his agent,if I can’t attract a one year offer sheet, I probably tell him to sign the qualifying offer, and wait for the OIlers to put him on waivers in the fall. The worst case scenario over the next four years of Oilers control is $1 million per season or 4 million dollars.

  86. godot10 says:

    If the Oilers lose the next two games, I would sit McDavid in Toronto on Wednesday as a protest.

    Or I hope Connor appeals. Then if he loses, the games he misses will be in Nashville and Toronto. I want all those fans in Toronto who paid big money to watch McDavid get screwed.

  87. BONE207 says:

    Here’s my take on CONNOR’S suspension…

    George, you have a job & get paid because of guys like me. A face puncher with a classic moustache doesn’t give you any level of qualifications to judge how hockey is played now. This level of the game is beyond your scope & ability to judge. With the crap I have to endure nightly, you should crawl back into that hole & admit that, ya…we probably should sweep this under the rug. We’ll send a nice card & some flowers to Nick.

  88. Professor Q says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    stephen sheps,

    #protip thanks!

    I avoid cheap Scotch like Glenfiddich and especially blends, so probably safe there but now that I know about chill filtering I’ll keep an eye out when I make my next purchase.A quick glance at a favourite (Tobermory 10) confirms as a candidate for an experiment with a wee press, stating “Non-chillfiltered @ 46.3% ABV” on their website.

    Out of curiosity, what would you say is similar to Tobermory 10 and worth a try?

    I don’t think it is accurate to state that one of the most highly awarded and higher-end Scotches like Glenfiddich is cheap. Its prices are on par with other higher-end Scotches, and it does have a $10,000 50 year old bottle on the market, which seems to also be par for the course there.

    Now, as there are so many different sources and flavours to Scotch, obviously some might not be to one’s taste. I myself do not favour ones with a heavy smoke.

    By the way, have you ever seen Three Sheets? What an interesting concept for a show, and it is sad that it ended but one must evolve, I suppose.

    Here is the Scotland episode:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1vRVYbFRy_Q

    Enjoy!

  89. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Oilers will not waive Jesse – no way – not even with a poor camp. I just can’t see it – he’ll be on the 23 man assuming health.

  90. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    The Oilers will not waive Jesse – no way – not even with a poor camp.I just can’t see it – he’ll be on the 23 man assuming health.

    Does he have to be waived to start, or can he start the year in Bakersfield first before roster set date and be called up later?

  91. JimmyV1965 says:

    godot10: Why would he go to Europe when he is waiver eligible next year?If I am his agent,if I can’t attract a one year offer sheet,I probably tell him to sign the qualifying offer, and wait for the OIlers to put him on waivers in the fall.The worst case scenario over the next four years of Oilers control is $1 million per season or 4 million dollars.

    Why would the Oilers put him on waivers? Healthy scratch him.

  92. JimmyV1965 says:

    godot10:
    If the Oilers lose the next two games, I would sit McDavid in Toronto on Wednesday as a protest.

    Or I hope Connor appeals.Then if he loses, the games he misses will be in Nashville and Toronto.I want all those fans in Toronto who paid big money to watch McDavid get screwed.

    He has to play while pending the appeal. Essentially an appeal is useless in two game suspension. Could get his missed salary back.

  93. ArmchairGM says:

    Single malts are blended too.

  94. flyfish1168 says:

    godot10:
    If the Oilers lose the next two games, I would sit McDavid in Toronto on Wednesday as a protest.

    Or I hope Connor appeals.Then if he loses, the games he misses will be in Nashville and Toronto.I want all those fans in Toronto who paid big money to watch McDavid get screwed.

    +1

    I agree NHL will then take notice. We need to stand up for once.

  95. Jethro Tull says:

    pts2pndr:
    Oilers should shut down McDavid for the rest of the season along with Draisaitl and Nuge. They should play their backup goal tender and go whole tank. At the deadline move all pending UFA’s. under no curcumstanceshould any Oiler player do an interview for the next two games. The league is a joke and I won’t be watching any hockey until Conner is back and will boycott this years playoffs. See you guys after the suspension!

    It’s a bold strategy Cotton,, let’s see how it plays out.

  96. stephen sheps says:

    Professor Q: higher-end Scotches like Glenfiddich is cheap

    It’s true they make a decent higher-end product, but the 12 is mass produced, cheaply priced and based on my palate, not great juice. it hits the notes that most people who haven’t explored much scotch tend to like, but it’s boring. The older, higher proofed and experimental cask expressions still aren’t my jam, but I see what they’re trying to do.

    ArmchairGM:
    Single malts are blended too.

    Often yes, they’re called ‘vatted’ malts where many barrels that were from the same run are often vatted together, however a ‘single malt’ merely means a single barley variety malted and distilled at one place.

  97. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Professor Q,

    I was getting at their garden variety bottles. Similar to Johnie Walker… sure they have high end offerings but they’re pretty low on my list. I find they’re more marketing than substance, as something simple like The Glenlivet is a better dram at the same entry level price point. For even less, Auchentoshan is 10x better, to my taste at least.

    That show reminds me of a similar program the host had some years back, I’ll be sure to give it a look. Thanks!

  98. JimmyV1965 says:

    I know we haven’t helped JP along in his career, but I think we need to play hardball with the kid. They should strongly suggest that he play in Europe for a year. They still own his rights. Tell the kid he’s not being traded until he raises his value in the market and that won’t happen if he’s playing for the Oilers.

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q: Does he have to be waived to start, or can he start the year in Bakersfield first before roster set date and be called up later?

    He’ll need to be waived to play in Bakersfield next season.

  100. Lucic n Chong says:

    Starting to have time for Colby Cave.

    Koskinen having a good game.

    Great story about Currie.

    The boys need the win today. Hell, we all do.

    20 hard miles left.

  101. Lucic n Chong says:

    godot10:
    If the Oilers lose the next two games, I would sit McDavid in Toronto on Wednesday as a protest.

    Or I hope Connor appeals.Then if he loses, the games he misses will be in Nashville and Toronto.I want all those fans in Toronto who paid big money to watch McDavid get screwed.

    +1

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