Game 61 2018-19: Ducks at Oilers

It’s Saturday. The cold is still in the ground, we’re miles from planting in the full moon, putting the winter coat away, saying goodbye to the Alberta mud until fall. In hockey terms, it’s a sad time, a time to watch the good teams go on, while the losers talk of lotteries and what might have been. In our town, the captain has been suspended in a rather addled ruling, the team phenom appears to have found a way to avoid the minors, and the world is turning as it should.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Lowetide: Edmonton Oilers at the deadline: Buy, sell or both?
  • New Jonathan Willis: Jesse Puljujarvi needs a fresh start, but there’s no reason it can’t be in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.
  • Lowetide: Are the 2018-19 Bakersfield Condors the best Edmonton Oilers affiliate ever?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘One of the best hockey games ever’: An oral history of the 2014 women’s Olympic gold-medal game.
  • Lowetide: How can the Oilers successfully sell the new regime to a fan base that is openly angry?
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade deadline primer: Focus should be on moves that make life easier for the next GM
  • Lowetide: Cam Talbot’s Oilers career a disappointment save one beautiful spring.
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s trade for Sam Gagner is a gamble well worth making.
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Jonathan Willis: Teams should beware of these players at the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Lowetide: Entry deal AHL forwards give the Oilers an excellent trade pool.
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Corey Pronman: 2019 NHL Draft midseason rankings
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 61

  • Oilers in 2015: 22-33-6, 50 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2016: 33-20-8, 74 points; goal differential +13
  • Oilers in 2017: 26-31-4, 56 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018: 25-29-6, 56 points; goal differential -24

Edmonton has a chance to win tonight, but without 97 it’s going to be difficult. I think we’ve seen enough of this team, depending on deadline moves, that we can suggest last year’s club is a good match. From Game 60 forward, the 2017-18 Oilers went 10-9-2 in order to finish 36-40-6, 78 points. I believe that’s going to be this year’s fate, or thereabouts.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-9-0, four points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in February 2017: 5-6-0, 10 points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in February 2018: 3-7-1, seven points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2019: 2-5-3, seven points; goal differential -11

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Philadelphia, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-2)
  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Pittsburgh, Carolina, NY Islanders (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, NY Islanders, Anaheim (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 2-5-3, seven points in 10 games

HITCH’S OILERS (16-19-5)

  • All numbers since Hitchcock took over. Forwards: 5-on-5 per 60; Defense: Corsi for 5-on-5.
  • The big three score well up front, interesting to see Kassian’s recent surge aiding those scoreless games earlier.
  • Lucic has recovered a little, Khaira was productive before injury and Sam Gagner has been a contributor early on.
  • Defense looks better already with Klefbom and Sekera back in the fold, that should help float the Nurse and Russell numbers.
  • Mikko Koskinen’s numbers since Hitchcock arrived are good.

WOODCROFT’S CONDORS (31-15-3)

  • Forwards: estimated 5-on-5 points per 60; Defense: 5-on-5 goals for-against.
  • The top-six forwards look good, that’s an impressive group.
  • The defensemen are delivering positive goal share across the board. Music!
  • Shane Starrett may not be an NHL player but he’s playing well enough to get a look.

TODD NELSON’S 11-12 BARONS (45-22-9)

  • Same as above, but this is the 2011-12 OKC Barons. I wrote about this team and others in my piece for The Athletic this week on the minors.
  • This team might be the best all-time minor league Oilers club, I think Todd Nelson was the key member of the team.
  • Paajarvi was 20, but he never developed as a true offensive option. Tyler Pitlick, who was a part-time forward in 2011-12, now owns a superior points-per-game than Paajarvi in the NHL.
  • Should it be a concern that Paajarvi had a better estimated points-per-60 number than Benson does at 20? I don’t believe so, but it’s an interesting curio.

MCDAVID SUSPENSION

If the Oilers were a little better team, this could be used as a rallying cry by Hitch. “Even the league is against us!” he could scream, but I don’t think he has the horses. It is a chance for youngsters to step up and for Koskinen to steal a game, however.

JESSE PULJUJARVI

My kids are two of my favourite people on the planet. One of the phrases they use is “let me live” when someone (me) is mocking them or getting after them for something.

I think it’s time to let Jesse Puljujarvi live. Release him into the wild. It isn’t his fault the Edmonton Oilers fumbled and bumbled their way through his entry deal. I’ve become a fan of his agent in recent days, seems to be the first voice speaking up for a young man so many miles from happiness. Let him live.

THE NUGE

Well, I’ve had it. From now on, when a member of the national media says something stupid about the Nuge, I’m going to tweet or retweet it and then publish it on this blog. A wall of shame if I’ve ever seen one.

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors now, not only 1st in the Pacific in points but in points percentage as well.

    2nd in the entire AHL in points percentage!

  2. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Two minutes for following through after obstruction by ref.

    Shameful.

  3. BONE207 says:

    If someone redirects your stick, does that mean you didn’t maintain control of yours? Asking for the ref…

  4. Ribs says:

    Randorf throws some killer shade towards the Oilers. It’s hard to be mad, though. Skilled. Lol

  5. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Didn’t even notice Perry was playing
    Was wondering why my hate level was lower than a normal ducks game

  6. Ribs says:

    Trying to hold a lead with less than a minute left, better throw Sam Gagner our there. Lol whaaaatttttt

  7. Craig Zonit says:

    What are the refs gonna tell Corey there?

  8. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yikes – that’s a weak call……

  9. LMHF#1 says:

    How is this reviewable?

  10. Nit64 says:

    ~ Phoning Toronto to find out how to explain it to Corey ~

  11. smellyglove says:

    Devin Shore, #29 for ANH tries to break his stick over his knee after the goal is waived off.

    Call an unsportsmanlike for christ’s sake. The linesman earlier blocked Draisaitl’s zone entry. Zebras owe the Oilers.

    Also – why the hell didn’t Hitchcock call a timeout after that icing? Bad move.

  12. Todd Macallan says:

    Hahaha it’s up to Toronto, would bet my house they screw us.

  13. Ribs says:

    Nuge pulling him back but he still leads his leg through goalie. No goal.

  14. Lucic n Chong says:

    Bob Murray’s head looks like an overripe raspberry.

    Goal under review from Toronto. The conspiracy is real.

  15. BONE207 says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Didn’t even notice Perry was playing
    Was wondering why my hate level was lower than a normal ducks game

    How do you like him now?

  16. Nit64 says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Didn’t even notice Perry was playing
    Was wondering why my hate level was lower than a normal ducks game

    Head shot on Nurse at the end

    Solved

  17. rickithebear says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Why do Oilers D stay on the boards so spread apart on the PP? No Chance for shots from the middle of the ice. Just Nurse muffins from the angle.
    Have Oiler coaches not heard of a heat map?

    That is called High danger shot area.
    A little theory I presented on here years ago.
    It was originally called Rickisbox by posters on here.

    You should check my April 18, 2017 post as Oilerbear on HF boards were I state VGK will be cup competative. This is before the top cup draft.
    I did not list Fluery as a top HD goalie.
    Had not looked at video of him post cup run with Murray as the starter.
    Someone asked why I had not listed Fluery on Lowetides so I revisited him.
    He went from 16th to top 10 HD goalie.

    Did not expect VGK to take the 100% of players available (which they did) that fit my cup caliber roster formula.
    Should have posted something post expansion draft.

    You might enjoy my interpretation on clutch goal scoring
    In a post on HF boards as oilerbear April 17, 2017

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Real nice game for Koskinen tonight!

    2 real nice games and 1 solid game in the last 3 for Mikko.

    5 points on the 3 game homestand.

    Ugh oh for Monday……

  19. Craig Zonit says:

    Hell yeah, Mikko!

    The league doesn’t want this hockey team drafting high.

  20. jp says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Didn’t even notice Perry was playing
    Was wondering why my hate level was lower than a normal ducks game

    No Getzlaf.

    Perry isn’t Perry of old.

    Kesler is 53-5-2-7. Less than half the production of Lucic for an extra 675k (3 more years vs 4 for Lucic but yeesh).

    Not the same team.

  21. smellyglove says:

    Fack, Nurse getting totally mugged/held along the boards. No call.

    Gritty win, would watch again.

  22. Todd Macallan says:

    Perry is such a pos, that was a dangerous play on Nurse.
    He damn well better get 2 games for that bullshit.

  23. LMHF#1 says:

    Well…credit for that one goes to #19.

    And Perry with more of an actual ‘head shot’ than McDavid and not even a penalty. Typical.

  24. Westchester Oil says:

    Happy with the win, but is it just me or for a one-goal game, did this game lack intensity?

  25. jp says:

    Nice game by Koskinen and the rest. Considering.

  26. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Would like to see Larsson actually find Perry’s stick earlier there. Wasn’t really doing anything other than getting in the way of his G. Have seen way more aggregious int not called than that

  27. BONE207 says:

    rickithebear: That is called High danger shot area.
    A little theory I presented on gear years ago.
    It was originally called Ricki,s box

    You should check my April 18, 2017 post as Oilerbear on HF boards were I state VGK will be cup competative. This is before
    I did not list Fluery as a top HD goalie.
    Had not looked at video of him post cup run with Murray as the starter.
    Someone asked why I had not listed Fluery on Lowetides so I revisited him.
    He went from 16th to top 10 HD goalie.

    Did not expect VGK to take the 100% of players available (which they did) that fit my cup caliber roster formula.
    Should have posted something post expansion draft.

    You might enjoy my interpretation on clutch goal scoring
    In a post on HF boards as oilerbear April 17, 2017

    Please send to : Craig Zonit

  28. Wilde says:

    jp: No Getzlaf.

    Perry isn’t Perry of old.

    Kesler is 53-5-2-7. Less than half the production of Lucic for an extra 675k (3 more years vs 4 for Lucic but yeesh).

    Not the same team.

    Kesler also has ~0.35/60 5v5 rate of point production.

    Lowest rate of any forward with 600+ minutes played.

    (e: Meant to type Kesler, typed Perry)

  29. Westchester Oil says:

    Can we trade the referee call on goaltender interference with the non-call from game 5 in the 2017 playoffs?

  30. Snellbert19 says:

    SK Oiler Fan,
    Was it a no call for Goaler Interference or because the ref lost site of the puck?
    I assume goaltender interference because one is reviewable and one is not and they went to Toronto??

    Maybe that’s a bone from Toronto. Looked ok from me.

  31. Professor Q says:

    Do the refs have to specify where the video review is taking place now?

  32. Admiral Ackbar says:

    If you were to tell me this 2 weeks ago:

    1. The Oilers would win without 97

    2. Against the Ducks, there’s a goalie interference call in the last minute that’s actually called AND upheld on review, preserving the lead

    3. Sam Gagner scores the winner.

    Who’d have believed that?!

  33. SK Oiler Fan says:

    rickithebear,

    Yep, Oiler D rarely shoot from HD area plus none of them have a great shot anyway. Not surprising very little gials from the D.
    Love your posts Ricki. At least the ones I was able to decipher

  34. BONE207 says:

    Snellbert19:
    SK Oiler Fan,
    Was it a no call for Goaler Interference or because the ref lost site of the puck?
    I assume goaltender interference because one is reviewable and one is not and they went to Toronto??

    Lost sight?

    Woohoo…we won 2 in a row

  35. BONE207 says:

    Admiral Ackbar:
    If you were to tell me this 2 weeks ago:

    1. The Oilers would win without 97

    2. Against the Ducks, there’s a goalie interference call in the last minute that’s actually called AND upheld on review, preserving the lead

    3. Sam Gagner scores the winner.

    Who’d have believed that?!

    Well if added that you were visiting Glovjuice, ya, I would.

  36. Lucic n Chong says:

    I thought they played well today. Koskinen finally made the saves he should’ve weeks ago (OP triggered)

    Of course the playoffs are something of a fable, out of reach this season but how can you not enjoy that game today. Without McJesus by all rights they could’ve laid down and died.

    Enjoy your night everyone.

  37. Nit64 says:

    BONE207: Lost sight?

    Woohoo…we won 2 in a row

    They always say the good play starts before the wins. Hard part was it took so many weeks of better play to get there.

  38. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Nit64,

    I didn’t need to remember that…

  39. Glovjuice says:

    Phil is a multi-instrumentalist.

  40. jp says:

    Wilde: Perry also has ~0.35/60 5v5 rate of point production.

    Lowest rate of any forward with 600+ minutes played.

    Wow, those guys got old fast (me too I suppose).

    But 8.625M for Perry for 2 more years.

    This is what the end of those long term contracts look like.

    Next 2 years the Ducks pay 15.5M for Perry’s 34 and 35 year old season and Kesler’s 35 and 36 (plus another for Kesler after that). Beyond ugly.

  41. Craig Zonit says:

    BONE207,

    Gone streaking.

  42. Nit64 says:

    jp: Next 2 years the Ducks pay 15.5M for Perry’s 34 and 35 year old season and Kesler’s 35 and 36 (plus another for Kesler after that). Beyond ugly

    That’s a lot of $ per held pad

  43. Nit64 says:

    Hnic finally noticed the last minute forearm to the head.

  44. BONE207 says:

    Nit64: They always say the good play starts before the wins. Hard part was it took so many weeks of better play to get there.

    Is it better play?
    Is it a rookie outscoring half the bottom 6?
    Is it a former Oiler brought back to score when the CONNOR is not able/allowed?
    Is it a goalie who picked up his goalie pants since he got his stall back cause Talbot’s kids were occupying it?

    Once the team acquires a rudder, maybe we will know.

  45. BONE207 says:

    Craig Zonit:
    BONE207,

    Gone streaking.

    Hopefully not in Edmonton. You’ll freeze to the BONE207

  46. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Hitch on Currie:

    “You’re really happy for him, especially what he’s done. This is a guy that was an East Coast Hockey League player that stayed with it, got an American League contract, got an NHL contract and now … he’s got the trust of the coaching staff, this is quite a story.

    “For me, for Josh, we trust him. We trust him because he’s got great competitive instincts on the ice. I see no reason why he can’t be a good player.”

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    WIth all of their d-men now hurt, I wonder if PIT has some interest in Russell in addition to Petrovic.

  48. Snellbert19 says:

    Big on Sam but that suit jacket and pants combo has to go

  49. Nit64 says:

    BONE207: Is it better play?Is it a rookie outscoring half the bottom 6?Is it a former Oiler brought back to score when the CONNOR is not able/allowed?
    Is it a goalie who picked up his goalie pants since he got his stall back cause Talbot’s kids were occupying it?

    Once the team acquires a rudder, maybe we will know.

    10 games ago they deserved to lose every night. They played better for a while before actually getting a win.

  50. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    Maybe now that the coach is more familiar with Currie we’ll see him on a skill line.

  51. Lucic n Chong says:

    Perry hit on Darnell in the dying minutes should be 2 games. The precedent has been set.

  52. Ribs says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Hitch on Currie:

    “You’re really happy for him, especially what he’s done.This is a guy that was an East Coast Hockey League player that stayed with it, got an American League contract, got an NHL contract and now … he’s got the trust of the coaching staff, this is quite a story.

    “For me, for Josh, we trust him.We trust him because he’s got great competitive instincts on the ice.I see no reason why he can’t be a good player.”

    “But that Rattie guy.. He coughs up the puck once and he’s dead to me. Dead!” Hah

    Nice win.

  53. JimmyV1965 says:

    Good to see Koskinnen play well. Much needed.

  54. JimmyV1965 says:

    Maybe we should trade Lucic for Kessler. At least it’s feasible to buyout his contract. Save about $3.8 mill in the first three years compared to Lucic. Then you have three years with a cap hit of $2.25 mill. Lucic contract is one year longer so one of those years at $2.25 mill is actually a savings.

  55. YKOil says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    WIth all of their d-men now hurt, I wonder if PIT has some interest in Russell in addition to Petrovic.

    With Schultz back they are fine on the right side (Letang, Schultz, Ruhwedel), it’s the left side that is short.

    At which point I dig up my favourite horse and say “Manning, with exactly 50% retained ($1.125 million), may be a decent bet for them given how much their left side is struggling… their 2020 5th round pick for Manning and our 2020 7th would be just fine…”

    And it’s true, left side for the Pens is a disaster for a team with Cup potential.

    Russell is just too much salary for them right now (unless we retain a dump truck of cash) and they are very low on easy-to-trade assets (read: picks). May also be too many time zones for Russell.

    Also, are we sure KG has permission to trade Petrovic? I wonder if he’s been told to stay put until we get a new GM.

  56. JimmyV1965 says:

    Kesler has NMC. Would only happen if he is actually interested in retiring. He’d be losing about $7 mill

  57. YKOil says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Maybe we should trade Lucic for Kessler. At least it’s feasible to buyout his contract. Save about $3.8 mill in the first three years compared to Lucic. Then you have three years with a cap hit of $2.25 mill.Lucic contract is one year longer so one of those years at $2.25 mill is actually a savings.

    No. You trade Lucic for Jack Johnson and then buy Johnson out. The comparative savings are amazing.

  58. Craig Zonit says:

    BONE207,

    Fine work tonight, I’d buy you a drink.

    But I’d rather Milan buy us all a round — penance.

  59. YKOil says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Kesler has NMC. Would only happen if he is actually interested in retiring. He’d be losing about $7 mill

    No. Kessler would LOVE this. He has $19 million owed to him of which $10 million is in the form of signing bonus. He will be 35 years old when this contract is up/the next year starts.

    Buyout gives him a guaranteed $16 million and, at the age of 32 (Oct b-day) he can plausibly claim to have more good years in him and look to sign a 4 to 6 year contract.

    If he gets some idiot to give him $5+ million /yr for 4 years he’s won the jack-pot.

  60. JimmyV1965 says:

    YKOil: Reply)

    Cap Friendky says he has zero bonuses. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.

  61. JimmyV1965 says:

    YKOil: No.You trade Lucic for Jack Johnson and then buy Johnson out.The comparative savings are amazing.

    They are huge. Lucic makes twice as much though. I’m not even sure the Pens could make room for the extra $2.75 mill in cap each year. Would love this though.

  62. BONE207 says:

    Craig Zonit:
    BONE207,

    Fine work tonight, I’d buy you a drink.

    But I’d rather Milan buy us all a round — penance.

    We would drink well & discuss 2018 with him.#WTF

  63. YKOil says:

    JimmyV1965: They are huge. Lucic makes twice as much though. I’m not even sure the Pens could make room for the extra $2.75 mill in cap each year. Would love this though.

    Fair observation. The deal for Lucic is out there though.

    Hell, apparently PC had one in the works but it frittered away because the GM and the idiot had trouble settling on fair value. I have no words…

    Kessel’s agent is/was brilliant, last two years, 2020-21 and 2021-22, are almost all signing bonus ($5 million of $6 million each year). This also helps Pittsburgh as their first ‘real’ trade window opens up after that signing bonus is paid in 2020-21; acquiring team only pays $7 million (total) for the last two years of Kessel’s contract.

    Which is to say that PC couldn’t even get that part right. If you are:

    a. going to be dumb enough to sign a down-slope player to a long-term contract and
    b. take on all the risk by accepting/granting NMC and NTC clauses backstopped by massive signing bonuses

    then you are better off going ALL THE WAY. The last 4 years of the contract look like so:

    2019-20 … NMC … Cap $6m … Pay $6m … Signing $3m
    2020-21 … NMC … Cap $6m … Pay $4m … Signing $3m
    2021-22 … NTC … Cap $6m … Pay $5m … Signing $2.5m
    2022-23 … NTC … Cap $6m … Pay $4m … Signing $3m

    The $3m signing bonus in 2019-20 is stupid because you have already made the contract buy-out proof, just pay the $5m and hope you can a) convince some team to take $24 million in Cap for $14m in dollars and b) convince the player to move on.

    The $4m in 2020-21 is cute but stupid because it’s about moving the player so make it $5m and cut a signing bonus cheque of $4m and hope you can a) convince some team to take $18 million in Cap for $9m in dollars and b) convince the player to move on.

    Again, the $2.5m signing bonus in 2021-22 is stupid because this is the first year you actually have a (mandated) trade window (of sorts), so again, pay a $3m signing bonus on $4m in salary and hope you can a) convince some team to take $12 million in Cap for $5m in dollars and b) move the player on.

    Don’t sign deals like this in the first place but if you do, sure as hell make sure as hell you maximize what little exit strategy you do have.

    I need a drink.

  64. Bruce McCurdy says:

    rickithebear:
    Spent the last week in & out of hospital as my kidneys and blood pressure Crashed.
    No WiFi in hospital.
    At home and went on line today!

    What Gagner for Spooner! Yes,

    WTF!
    Suspended!

    I got to go to FanSpeak and play with the NFL draft simulator!

    Best wishes to you, Ricki.

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    Hitch on Currie:

    “You’re really happy for him, especially what he’s done.This is a guy that was an East Coast Hockey League player that stayed with it, got an American League contract, got an NHL contract and now … he’s got the trust of the coaching staff, this is quite a story.

    “For me, for Josh, we trust him.We trust him because he’s got great competitive instincts on the ice.I see no reason why he can’t be a good player.”

    Sounds like he’s got character….

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    BornInAGretzkyJersey,

    Maybe now that the coach is more familiar with Currie we’ll see him on a skill line.

    Presumably Chiasson (and maybe Kassian) is moved prior to next game so there will be room opening up (not that there wasn’t before – Rieder was on the top line last night).

    With that said, upper management said we needed 3 wins on the homestand as our last chance to get back in it. They got 5 points…….. What does management think now?

    I actually don’t know if they think of themselves as full sellers.

  67. OriginalPouzar says:

    YKOil: With Schultz back they are fine on the right side (Letang, Schultz, Ruhwedel), it’s the left side that is short.

    At which point I dig up my favourite horse and say “Manning, with exactly 50% retained ($1.125 million), may be a decent bet for them given how much their left side is struggling… their 2020 5th round pick for Manning and our 2020 7th would be just fine…”

    And it’s true, left side for the Pens is a disaster for a team with Cup potential.

    Russell is just too much salary for them right now (unless we retain a dump truck of cash) and they are very low on easy-to-trade assets (read: picks).May also be too many time zones for Russell.

    Also, are we sure KG has permission to trade Petrovic?I wonder if he’s been told to stay put until we get a new GM.

    Letang got hurt last night – not sure the extent but it may not be short term. Dumoulin suffered a concussion yesterday. Matta already on IR.

    It would really be tough to move Russell with his 2 years of term at the deadline – you are right on that.

    I posted on another platform that they could potentially be interested in Manning if we retain up to $1M.

    Not sure why KG wouldn’t be able to move a middling asset on an expiring contract like Petrovic….

  68. Ribs says:

    rickithebear:
    Spent the last week in & out of hospital as my kidneys and blood pressure Crashed.
    No WiFi in hospital.
    At home and went on line today!

    What Gagner for Spooner! Yes,

    WTF!
    Suspended!

    I got to go to FanSpeak and play with the NFL draft simulator!

    Glad to hear you’re doing some fun stuff as well!

    Take care 🙂

  69. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar: Letang got hurt last night – not sure the extent but it may not be short term.Dumoulin suffered a concussion yesterday.Matta already on IR.

    It would really be tough to move Russell with his 2 years of term at the deadline – you are right on that.

    I posted on another platform that they could potentially be interested in Manning if we retain up to $1M.

    Not sure why KG wouldn’t be able to move a middling asset on an expiring contract like Petrovic….

    Simmonds and Perry should get the expected 2 games +. If not, McDavid could use those in his appeal. Get his money back and make a statement.

  70. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    BONE207: Is it better play?Is it a rookie outscoring half the bottom 6?Is it a former Oiler brought back to score when the CONNOR is not able/allowed?
    Is it a goalie who picked up his goalie pants since he got his stall back cause Talbot’s kids were occupying it?

    Once the team acquires a rudder, maybe we will know.

    – It’s having 6 D that are bonafide. A healthy Sek for the last two years mattered that much

    – You get better scoring from secondary better Goaltending as a result of not having 7-9 D playing big minutes.

    – Also the team has no pressure. We could have a streak like playoff Oiler from 2016 that had no pressure once the playoffs were secure and they had that relief.

  71. Dustylegnd says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – It’s having 6 D that are bonafide.A healthy Sek for the last two years mattered that much

    – You get better scoring from secondary better Goaltending as a result of not having 7-9 D playing big minutes.

    – Also the team has no pressure. We could have a streak like playoff Oiler from 2016 that had no pressure once the playoffs were secure and they had that relief.

    Depth is so important…..i ti is just shocking when you look at Edmontons draft and developmental record for all players….nver mind the ones drafted outside the 1st round…..

    Radical change is required at every level of the organization….the results or the lack thereof….good gracious

  72. Jethro Tull says:

    OriginalPouzar: Sounds like he’s got character….

    Imagine if they played him with skill!

  73. CallighenMan says:

    Jethro Tull: Lindros.

    Completely different scenario, he never played a minute for the Nordique

  74. rickithebear says:

    When we replaced Mctavish as GM before the draft.
    We had:
    Nelson as Coach
    PIT penguins 2015 1st rd pick for Perron

    The pick for Mcdavid
    RNH 76gm 24g 56p
    Eberle 81gm 24g 63P
    Pouliot 58gm 19G 34P
    Hall 53gm 14G 38P
    Yakupov 81gm 14g 33P -35
    Purcell 82gm 12G 34p -33
    Hendricks 71gm 8g 16p
    Draisaitl 37gm 2G 9P
    Khaira

    Fayne Top 5 1st comp HD RH dman; Coach & fans not knowing Cup roster value or how to use him
    Marincin top 40 HD dman Coach & fans not Knowing Cup Roster value or how to use him
    Davidson Top 60 HD dman Coach & Fans not Knowng Cup Roster value or how to use him
    Klefbom
    Nurse
    Ference Top 60 HD dman who,s wrecked shoulder ended his top HD dman skill.
    Nikitin

    Talbot Trade in place with NYR using the hemsky & Petry trade assets.

    Be careful for what you wish for.

    Cup Core Roster:
    1. HD sys coach
    None
    2. Top 10 HD goalie
    Talbot
    3. 3+ top 60 HD dmen
    Fayne
    Marincin
    Davidson
    4. 5+ top 125/fwd depth
    Mcdavid
    Draisaitl
    RNH
    EBerle
    Hall
    Pouliot
    5. +ve Goal dif special teams

    We were set up to start cup runs if we got a strong HD system coach
    Who understood Fayne, Marincin, & Davidson’s value.

    3 days in to his job PC started the downward spiral
    Pit pick for Reinhart
    Marincin for 7th rounder

    MacT,s first major moves in New role after removal as GM
    Signing Col UDFA
    Benning Top 40 HD dman in 17-18
    Caggulia

    This boards blind Hate for the OBC and awful system under Eakins
    clouded how awesome an Roster situation we were in.

    Off to pride of Detroit to read the dailies about my Lions.

    Invested some soft analytic time into identifying how to be championship successful.

    With correct roster structure
    Teams with 18+ carry & 4.4 y/c win 83% of the games.
    Preventing Points against.
    Top 8 Scoring Def with above avg scoring offence.

    Patricia,s NWE was top 8 – 6 of 7 seasons as Def coordinator
    Turned 27 th ranked pace det point def first 7 gm of year
    to #1 ranked pace scoring def last 7 games of year.

    Now if we could get a better than bottom 12 Passing TD% QB.
    Passing accuracy/progression reads of the 150%+ or greater high Catch % short routes over intermediate and intermediate over deep

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