Game 61 2018-19: Ducks at Oilers

by Lowetide

It’s Saturday. The cold is still in the ground, we’re miles from planting in the full moon, putting the winter coat away, saying goodbye to the Alberta mud until fall. In hockey terms, it’s a sad time, a time to watch the good teams go on, while the losers talk of lotteries and what might have been. In our town, the captain has been suspended in a rather addled ruling, the team phenom appears to have found a way to avoid the minors, and the world is turning as it should.

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Lowetide: Edmonton Oilers at the deadline: Buy, sell or both?
  • New Jonathan Willis: Jesse Puljujarvi needs a fresh start, but there’s no reason it can’t be in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.
  • Lowetide: Are the 2018-19 Bakersfield Condors the best Edmonton Oilers affiliate ever?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘One of the best hockey games ever’: An oral history of the 2014 women’s Olympic gold-medal game.
  • Lowetide: How can the Oilers successfully sell the new regime to a fan base that is openly angry?
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade deadline primer: Focus should be on moves that make life easier for the next GM
  • Lowetide: Cam Talbot’s Oilers career a disappointment save one beautiful spring.
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s trade for Sam Gagner is a gamble well worth making.
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Jonathan Willis: Teams should beware of these players at the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Lowetide: Entry deal AHL forwards give the Oilers an excellent trade pool.
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Corey Pronman: 2019 NHL Draft midseason rankings
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 61

  • Oilers in 2015: 22-33-6, 50 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2016: 33-20-8, 74 points; goal differential +13
  • Oilers in 2017: 26-31-4, 56 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018: 25-29-6, 56 points; goal differential -24

Edmonton has a chance to win tonight, but without 97 it’s going to be difficult. I think we’ve seen enough of this team, depending on deadline moves, that we can suggest last year’s club is a good match. From Game 60 forward, the 2017-18 Oilers went 10-9-2 in order to finish 36-40-6, 78 points. I believe that’s going to be this year’s fate, or thereabouts.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-9-0, four points; goal differential -21
  • Oilers in February 2017: 5-6-0, 10 points; goal differential -2
  • Oilers in February 2018: 3-7-1, seven points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2019: 2-5-3, seven points; goal differential -11

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Philadelphia, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-2)
  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Pittsburgh, Carolina, NY Islanders (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, NY Islanders, Anaheim (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 2-5-3, seven points in 10 games

HITCH’S OILERS (16-19-5)

  • All numbers since Hitchcock took over. Forwards: 5-on-5 per 60; Defense: Corsi for 5-on-5.
  • The big three score well up front, interesting to see Kassian’s recent surge aiding those scoreless games earlier.
  • Lucic has recovered a little, Khaira was productive before injury and Sam Gagner has been a contributor early on.
  • Defense looks better already with Klefbom and Sekera back in the fold, that should help float the Nurse and Russell numbers.
  • Mikko Koskinen’s numbers since Hitchcock arrived are good.

WOODCROFT’S CONDORS (31-15-3)

  • Forwards: estimated 5-on-5 points per 60; Defense: 5-on-5 goals for-against.
  • The top-six forwards look good, that’s an impressive group.
  • The defensemen are delivering positive goal share across the board. Music!
  • Shane Starrett may not be an NHL player but he’s playing well enough to get a look.

TODD NELSON’S 11-12 BARONS (45-22-9)

  • Same as above, but this is the 2011-12 OKC Barons. I wrote about this team and others in my piece for The Athletic this week on the minors.
  • This team might be the best all-time minor league Oilers club, I think Todd Nelson was the key member of the team.
  • Paajarvi was 20, but he never developed as a true offensive option. Tyler Pitlick, who was a part-time forward in 2011-12, now owns a superior points-per-game than Paajarvi in the NHL.
  • Should it be a concern that Paajarvi had a better estimated points-per-60 number than Benson does at 20? I don’t believe so, but it’s an interesting curio.

MCDAVID SUSPENSION

If the Oilers were a little better team, this could be used as a rallying cry by Hitch. “Even the league is against us!” he could scream, but I don’t think he has the horses. It is a chance for youngsters to step up and for Koskinen to steal a game, however.

JESSE PULJUJARVI

My kids are two of my favourite people on the planet. One of the phrases they use is “let me live” when someone (me) is mocking them or getting after them for something.

I think it’s time to let Jesse Puljujarvi live. Release him into the wild. It isn’t his fault the Edmonton Oilers fumbled and bumbled their way through his entry deal. I’ve become a fan of his agent in recent days, seems to be the first voice speaking up for a young man so many miles from happiness. Let him live.

THE NUGE

Well, I’ve had it. From now on, when a member of the national media says something stupid about the Nuge, I’m going to tweet or retweet it and then publish it on this blog. A wall of shame if I’ve ever seen one.

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McNuge93

Hate to say but agree it’s probably time to trade Pulu this summer. There comes a point where it’s a distraction to the team. The problem – what realistically could we get for him. Thoughts?

leadfarmer

The NHL is deciding for this team what their approach should be the rest of the season
Do what you can to get Hughes or Kakko
I know many don’t want to see this approach after years wondering in the wilderness but 3/4 of the season has been burned and there is no recovering from the Hitch effect
We need to add at minimum 2 top 6 forwards and our cap situation eliminates UFA as a method of getting them

Jethro Tull

What did who(m) ever say about Nuge? Also heard Yost throwing shade.

I don’t twitter.

@deepsix

John Shannon doubled down on his opinion that Nuge is part of the problem in Edmonton with his inconsistent play, particularly on defence. Might be a good time for John’s passing interest in Edmonton to pass elsewhere.

I’m with you Al, let him (them) have it.

Bryan

I think the best plan for Jesse would be a year in the KHL with Jari Kurri’s team. He can hopefully play a lot and perhaps mature a bit more and get his game back in order. Also there will be no concerns about waivers. After this he can return to an organization reinvigorated by a new GM and coach and life will be good.

smellyglove

Checking out the WOWY charts at hockeyviz:

Draisaitl does seem to be really good with Nuge and Kassian: https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/wowy/1819/EDM/draisle95/wrap

And Connor zooms Drai a little bit, but not too much.

Another takeaway, which I THINK, shoes the depth woes of the team: Nuge has huge boosts in score adjusted shots/60 with either Leon and Connor, and falls down the elevator shaft without. Because there isn’t really anyone else in this forward group with offensive chops.

leadfarmer

McNuge93:
Hate to say but agree it’s probably time to trade Pulu this summer. There comes a point where it’s a distraction to the team. The problem – what realistically could we get for him. Thoughts?

Some team that is selling this trade deadline later first round pick is probably the best we could hope for. So like Ottawa when they trade Stone. Or one of the other teams that are selling
But more likely a second and a B prospect

Jethro Tull

And the irony that the NHL employs somebody that was only on the league to hurt people as the person who decides what’s safe or not is not lost on me.

leadfarmer

Bryan:
I think the best plan for Jesse would be a year in the KHL with Jari Kurri’s team.He can hopefully play a lot and perhaps mature a bit more and get his game back in order. Also there will be no concerns about waivers.After this he can return to an organization reinvigorated by a new GM and coach and life will be good.

I hate how quickly teams bring over oversees players and have stated it many times in the past.
There is this we know how to develop these guys much better than these “lesser” leagues and need to get our assets out of there as quickly as possible attitude.
Which I think the opposite is true especially with some teams

Bryan

@yeg97:
John Shannon doubled down on his opinion that Nuge is part of the problem in Edmonton with his inconsistent play, particularly on defence. Might be a good time for John’s passing interest in Edmonton to pass elsewhere.

I’m with you Al, let him (them) have it.

Anyone who believes that Nuge is part of the problem needs to seriously reassess their choices in life as the ice hockey is not for them.

HugThePost

I think Swedishposter stated here a few days ago the Finnish media and Finnish hockey fans in general are terrified of the Oilers getting Kakko, given what has happened with Jesse here.

I wonder how Kakko and/or his agent will feel if indeed the Oilers draft him this spring?

This Org may have gotten to the where where they have managed to give players many reasons not to want to come here, no matter what stage of their career they are in. We now only attract the last chance Texaco guys who have no other NHL option.

Todd Macallan

I’m inclined to agree with Gagner when he refers to Nuge as one of, if not the most underrated players in the league. Anyone in the media with criticism of his game, especially on the defensive side of the puck, are only proving that they don’t in fact actually watch the Oilers at all.

leadfarmer

HugThePost:
I think Swedishposter stated here a few days ago the Finnish media and Finnish hockey fans in generalare terrified of the Oilers getting Kakko, given what has happened with Jesse here.

I wonder how Kakko and/or his agent will feel if indeed the Oilers draft him this spring?

This Org may have gotten to the where where they have managed to give players many reasons not to want to come here, no matter what stage of their career they are in.We now only attract the last chance Texaco guys who have not other NHL option.

I’m sure if they draft him they will put him in the top 6 immediately and then complain two years later when his development stagnated instead of letting him develop at home which is doing a good job developing him

HugThePost

Who will TBOTB dispatch to extend an olive branch to Jesse and his agent if they decide to try keep him around? Probably the new GM and/or coach I’d imagine.

Woodguy v2.0

Western Conference Playoff Standings using Point Percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Pacific
CGY 22
SJS 19
VGK 6

Central
WPG 17
NSH 14
STL 9

Wildcard
DAL 5
MIN 2

Out of playoffs
COL 2
ARI 0
CHI -1
VAN -1
ANA -4
EDM -4
LAK -8

The last playoff spot now involves team actually over fake Bettman .500 now! Huzzah!

HugThePost

leadfarmer: I’m sure if they draft him they will put him in the top 6 immediately and then complain two years later when his development stagnated instead of letting him develop at home which is doing a good job developing him

and don’t forget the obligatory sneering comment about not being tough enough and not wanting it enough

Woodguy v2.0

Eastern Conference Playoff Standings using Point Percentage shown as points over/under fake Bettman .500

Atlantic
TBY 36
BOS 19
TOR 16

Metropolitan
NYI 17
WSH 14
CBJ 11

Wildcard
MTL 12
PIT 10

Out of playoffs
CAR 9
BUF 4
PHI 2
FLA 1
NYR 0
NJD -5
DET -7
OTT -12

WSH at BUF (WSH -160)
CAR at DAL (DAL -110)
SJS at CBJ (SJS -140)
MTL at TOR (TOR -180)
PIT at PHI (PIT -125)

Woodguy v2.0

In regards to EDM acquiring an Actual NHL 2nd pair RHD:

WSH picked one up yesterday for a 2nd and a prospect that had fallen out of their favour ostensibly as a deadline deal and then signed him for 4 x 2.5

That some good GMing

Jensen will slot in at 3RD behind Niskanen and Carlson, but he’s played 2nd pair in DET for most of the last 2 years and done well.

Would have been a good place holder at 2RD on EDM while the kids got older and wiser.

I don’t think it a coincidence that Vic is the Director of Analyitcs for WSH, this is a great “under the radar” deal and then signing a contract that is value day one.

Bruce McCurdy

I used to joke that as lead singers go, Phil Collins is a pretty good drummer.

In the same vein, as hockey analysts go, John Shannon (may have been) a pretty good producer.

He does have contacts & provides some insider info, but his take on the game itself is not very strong IMO & this Nuge crap is just the latest example of that.

Jaxon

I find it strange that anyone would even consider moving on from Puljujarvi but also strange that they wouldn’t play him with skill. While he hasn’t blown anyone away with his production his underlying numbers say he can help skilled players get chances and not bleed chances against. His Corsi% with skilled linens is among the best on the team. Why wouldn’t they roll with that until he finds his scoring touch? He’s only 20! They won’t get much for him anyhow, so why not support him and ride it out to see his potential. Trade him at 23 if necessary. If you’re getting anything less than a first rounder I think the odds are still in favour of Puljujarvi being an impact player next season over a 3rd round pick being an impact player in a few years.

Bag of Pucks

I was very encouraged by the speculation yesterday that should Ottawa lose both Stone and Dzingel (which now looks likely), then Melnyk could be forced to acquire a player like Lucic to get to the cap floor. The encouraging part was the suggestion that Puljujarvi could be sufficient as a sweetener to make that happen.

My sense was the 1st rounder would have to be put in play to dump that toxic contract, so quite happy to consider the prospect of the Oil being able to make that pick AND dump that cap hit.

That said, I think there’s two potential wrenches in this scenario.

1) Ottawa likely doesn’t embrace this trade unless they are completely jilted by big fish in free agency. So the timing is poor for the Oilers. They’d have to make the pick and then hope.

2) The optics of acquiring Lucic are very poor for Melnyk. Even with JP to sweeten the sour, the fallout in a Canadian market could be real and spectacular.

If I’m Burgers’ handpicked lackey, I would definitely dangle that trade on the draft floor with the Sens.

I should also clarify that I’m hugely against the Oilers retaining cap or in anyway paying for Lucic to go away. It’s just exceedingly poor asset management imo.

Soup Fascist

John Shannon knows less about player evaluation than Peter Chiarelli.

I realize that is hitting below the belt ….. but it had to be said.

dustrock

LT looking at your OHL list.

What makes Puljujarvi different from Bonsignore or Boyd Devereaux?

I posted last week a list of WHJC top forwards over the last 20 years. There are the usual superstars, and very good hockey players in there, but there is also a surprising number of NHL washout.

Puljujarvi doesn’t have Laine’s shot and his FHL scoring was a fair bit lower than guys like Barkov or Kakko, true elite picks.

Did the Oilers fail Magnus Paajarvi-Svenson or was he another guy who just couldn’t crack that upper 1% to get into the NHL as a top 6 regular?

The organization has completely bungled Puljujarvi in every way, it’s true.

And yet I wonder if a star player really was there, or we were all fooled by an outstanding World Juniors performance.

He is young still, and you were wise to track his progress against players like Rantanen and Pastrnak. But with those two, even early on, there were flashes of elite skill.

I can’t remember a single highlight of Puljujarvi’s where I fell off my seat.

The closest was probably his performance in the rookie camp a couple of years ago, against Sun-NHL goaltending.

It’s a real shame. I hope he makes it and I hope he’ll be a star in somebody else’s sky.

Bag of Pucks

Yakupov and Puljujarvi are such similar players in terms of them being project picks with raw skill upside but cultural assimilation challenges, that a smart org (which the Oilers are not) would look at those similarities and A) Identify and address the deficiencies in the organization that prevents them from properly developing these types of project picks, or B) They would do a detailed categorization of this player type and avoid them at the draft. Given that A is the taller order to fix, it would seem prudent to proceed with the B approach for the immediate future.

dustrock

Jaxon:
I find it strange that anyone would even consider moving on from Puljujarvi but also strange that they wouldn’t play him with skill. While he hasn’t blown anyone away with his production his underlying numbers say he can help skilled players get chances and not bleed chances against. His Corsi% with skilled linens is among the best on the team. Why wouldn’t they roll with that until he finds his scoring touch? He’s only 20!They won’t get much for him anyhow, so why not support him and ride it out to see his potential. Trade him at 23 if necessary. If you’re getting anything less than a first rounder I think the odds are still in favour of Puljujarvi being an impact player next season over a 3rd round pick being an impact player in a few years.

I do wonder about this. Whether it’s Jesse’s fault or not, the skilled players obviously don’t want to play with him.

You think McDavid and Draisaitl want to play with these grunts?

Just an assumption by me but I expect 97 & 29 have enough pull on an offensively-starved team to demand Puljujarvi play with them if they wanted it.

Maybe Puljujarvi likes museums too much?

Professor Q

Lowetide:
The Edmonton Oilers and the incredible draft pipeline that is the OHL

https://theathletic.com/819007/2019/02/23/the-edmonton-oilers-and-the-incredible-draft-pipeline-that-is-the-ohl/

If Edmonton doesn’t go for Kaliyev or the other two OHL prospects mentioned (later on in the draft), could they perhaps go for an OHL-produced prospect via trade (Chiasson, Kassian)?

I know Sam Miletic was a suggested name, and the Penguins a heavily rumoured trade partner.

dustrock

Bag of Pucks:
Yakupov and Puljujarvi are such similar players in terms of them being project picks with raw skill upside but cultural assimilation challenges, that a smart org (which the Oilers are not) would look at those similarities and A) Identify and address the deficiencies in the organization that prevents them from properly developing these types of project picks, or B) They would do a detailed categorization of this player type and avoid them at the draft. Given that A is the taller order to fix, it would seem prudent to proceed with the B approach for the immediate future.

Agree completely. They should be looking at that aspect for every single one of their Euro picks.

Can you name a Euro player other than Klefbom who developed properly here in the last decade?

Whatever magic the Oilers had with Finland in the 80s it’s sure different now.

Bag of Pucks

This was such a brilliant pun I read on Deadspin RE: the sordid Robert Kraft charges, then I just had to share…

“This team really is committed to illegally getting stuff released from their balls.”

Jethro Tull

Bruce McCurdy:
I used to joke that as lead singers go, Phil Collins is a pretty good drummer.

In the same vein, as hockey analysts go, John Shannon (may have been) a pretty good producer.

He does have contacts & provides some insider info, but his take on the game itself is not very strong IMO & this Nuge crap is just the latest example of that.

Bruce, I know as Oilers fans we’re a little butt hurt at the moment, but why, in your opinion, do we see a dearth of horrible, horrible reports and articles on the Oilers? Especially after something happens, such as Connor’s suspension.

Professor Q

Jethro Tull:
And the irony that the NHL employs somebody that was only on the league to hurt people as the person who decides what’s safe or not is not lost on me.

And they do it every time. Shanahan wasn’t much better, really.

Bag of Pucks

Not going to be a popular opinion I know, but I’m completely fine with 2 games for Connor.

Clearly targeted the head. A very dangerous play that the league HAS to punish regardless of the name on the back of the jersey.

I hope Connor learns from this momentary lapse of reason and governs himself accordingly. He’s got a lot of young impressionable lads watching his every move and taking a cue from him on how to play the game.

The fact that Connor gets hooked and held a lot has nothing to do with this. Completely separate issue imo.

That said, I do remember the Hall hit on Clutterbuck and I wonder if these guys don’t decide that one high profile dirty hit early in their career isn’t worth the extra ice it buys them going forward?

jtblack

Lowetide:
Talked about the Oilers and the OHL at the draft this morning, and about Arthur Kaliyev

https://theathletic.com/819007/2019/02/23/the-edmonton-oilers-and-the-incredible-draft-pipeline-that-is-the-ohl/

IMO, the way the league is trending you can’t risk a Top 10 pick on a Mediocre skater; when there are clearly many excellent choices available that are excellent options.

KREBS, DACH, COZENS, ZEGRAS, etc …Can all skate well and have offensive pedigree. That’s who Edmonton should target if the PICK #5.

ArmchairGM

leadfarmer: I’m sure if they draft him they will put him in the top 6 immediately and then complain two years later when his development stagnated instead of letting him develop at home which is doing a good job developing him

Every player requires a different approach. Doing for Kakko what they should have done for Puljujarvi would be a mistake. IMO Kakko will be in the NHL next year on merit.

jtblack

Bag of Pucks:
Not going to be a popular opinion I know, but I’m completely fine with 2 games for Connor.

Clearly targeted the head. A very dangerous play that the league HAS to punish regardless of the name on the back of the jersey.

I hope Connor learns from this momentary lapse of reason and governs himself accordingly. He’s got a lot of young impressionable lads watching his every move and taking a cue from him on how to play the game.

The fact that Connor gets hooked and held a lot has nothing to do with this. Completely separate issue imo.

+1. He deserved it. He will learn from it.

I just think it shows how frustrated Connor is … season is not going well and this is just one more minor setback ..

OmJo

leadfarmer: I’m sure if they draft him they will put him in the top bottom 6 immediately and then complain two years later when his development stagnated instead of letting him develop at home which is doing a good job developing him

FTFY

OmJo

Woodguy v2.0:
Inregards to EDM acquiring an Actual NHL 2nd pair RHD:

WSH picked one up yesterday for a 2nd and a prospect that had fallen out of their favour ostensibly as a deadline deal and then signed him for 4 x 2.5

That some good GMing

Jensen will slot in at 3RD behind Niskanen and Carlson, but he’s played 2nd pair in DET for most of the last 2 years and done well.

Would have been a good place holder at 2RD on EDM while the kids got older and wiser.

I don’t think it a coincidence that Vic is the Director of Analyitcs for WSH, this is a great “under the radar” deal and then signing a contract that is value day one.

Could Benning + 2nd not have gotten us Jensen?

Melman

I get that 97 has been mugged all year with impunity, but you can’t say the best skater in the world threw that hit by “accident” as he was going for the puck. There’s no reason for that shot to the head and IMO it was suspension worthy – if Leddy had clipped McD with that same hit people would be screaming for blood. Maybe Katz has reached out to the league to help him get his front office in order, and their first step was “let’s start with putting this playoff are still possible nonsense to rest”. (I jest…kind of)

Malkin’s elbow on Oshie was filthy and was also suspension worthy and that’s the issue.

HugThePost

jtblack: +1.He deserved it.He will learn from it.

I just think it shows how frustrated Connor is … season is not going well and this is just one more minor setback ..

maybe Conner just decided he wanted a couple of games off? He’s certainly earned it.

Soup Fascist

Bag of Pucks:
Not going to be a popular opinion I know, but I’m completely fine with 2 games for Connor.

Clearly targeted the head. A very dangerous play that the league HAS to punish regardless of the name on the back of the jersey.

I hope Connor learns from this momentary lapse of reason and governs himself accordingly. He’s got a lot of young impressionable lads watching his every move and taking a cue from him on how to play the game.

The fact that Connor gets hooked and held a lot has nothing to do with this. Completely separate issue imo.

Not really. It is a fairly logical conclusion that after copious quantities of uncalled groping, cheap shots and obstruction – as occurred earlier that shift – a young man was pissed off and took it out on an opponent.

If the NHL comes close to calling it’s own rules, players aren’t as likely to take the law into their own hands.

NHL Referees and league officials responsible for it – are largely inept.

Melman

jtblack,

+1

Bag of Pucks

dustrock: Agree completely. They should be looking at that aspect for every single one of their Euro picks.

Can you name a Euro player other than Klefbom who developed properly here in the last decade?

Whatever magic the Oilers had with Finland in the 80s it’s sure different now.

I think the secret is you have to have a few of them. The Oil had Hagman, Siltanen and Kurri and then Kurri, Tikkanen, and Reijo. The Caps have a few Russians. You have to establish an outpost.

Mikeoes

Bag of Pucks,

Disagree Bag o Pucks! I don’t think they should have gone “easy” on Connor, but point we are making is – if league is going to punish these incidents as they do (fair enough) then they also need to punish the multiple never ending infractions against Connor. There is a lack of consistancy in how they are treating him based on their OWN rules . THAT is the issue

leadfarmer

ArmchairGM: Every player requires a different approach. Doing for Kakko what they should have done for Puljujarvi would be a mistake. IMO Kakko will be in the NHL next year on merit.

And rinse and repeat.

Jethro Tull

Melman:
I get that 97 has been mugged all year with impunity, but you can’t say the best skater in the world threw that hit by “accident” as he was going for the puck. There’s no reason for that shot to the head and IMO it was suspension worthy – if Leddy had clipped McD with that same hit people would be screaming for blood. Maybe Katz has reached out to the league to help him get his front office in order, and their first step was “let’s start with putting this playoff are still possible nonsense to rest”. (I jest…kind of)

Malkin’s elbow on Oshie was filthy and was also suspension worthy and that’s the issue.

In order to judge if an outcome is ‘fair’, we must change the order of the variables to see if we get the same outcome.

Our test is: Given what we know has already happened to Connor within sight of the refs and on national television, would Leddy have received the same admonishment?

Mikeoes

Soup Fascist,

Bingo

ArmchairGM

Bag of Pucks: I should also clarify that I’m hugely against the Oilers retaining cap or in anyway paying for Lucic to go away. It’s just exceedingly poor asset management imo.

Using a 5th overall pick or a too prospect to get rid of a bad contract is the very definition of poor asset management. If retaining 50% brings the required sweetener down to a 2nd or a B prospect, you do that every time.

OmJo

Bag of Pucks:
Not going to be a popular opinion I know, but I’m completely fine with 2 games for Connor.

Clearly targeted the head. A very dangerous play that the league HAS to punish regardless of the name on the back of the jersey.

I hope Connor learns from this momentary lapse of reason and governs himself accordingly. He’s got a lot of young impressionable lads watching his every move and taking a cue from him on how to play the game.

The fact that Connor gets hooked and held a lot has nothing to do with this. Completely separate issue imo.

That said, I do remember the Hall hit on Clutterbuck and I wonder if these guys don’t decide that one high profile dirty hit early in their career isn’t worth the extra ice it buys them going forward?

I don’t think he clearly targeted the head at all.

Clearly made contact with the head maybe.

That he got suspended isn’t the issue, IMO. It’s the glaring inconsistency of everything that has most people pissed off about it.

Bag of Pucks

Soup Fascist: Not really. It is a fairly logical conclusion that after copious quantities of uncalled groping, cheap shots and obstruction – as occurred earlier that shift – a young man was pissed off and took it out on an opponent.

If the NHL comes close to calling it’s own rules, players aren’t as likely to take the law into their own hands.

NHL Referees and league officials responsible for it – are largely inept.

The problem I have with this it it’s like saying that guy’s wife nags him a lot, so I’m completely fine with him sucker punching someone out of frustration.

Impeding progress is a misdemeanour. Targeting the head is a felony.

Oilman99

Jaxon:
I find it strange that anyone would even consider moving on from Puljujarvi but also strange that they wouldn’t play him with skill. While he hasn’t blown anyone away with his production his underlying numbers say he can help skilled players get chances and not bleed chances against. His Corsi% with skilled linens is among the best on the team. Why wouldn’t they roll with that until he finds his scoring touch? He’s only 20!They won’t get much for him anyhow, so why not support him and ride it out to see his potential. Trade him at 23 if necessary. If you’re getting anything less than a first rounder I think the odds are still in favour of Puljujarvi being an impact player next season over a 3rd round pick being an impact player in a few years.

Several games this season Puljarvi has dominated when he was totally involved,Iwould suggest that he still needs to mature,and with good coaching there is still a valuable asset there. I think the team needs to assign a full time mentor too him to ensure he gets the proper training,and conditioning this summer,not so sure he is in the best condition,seems tire quickly.