Rage in the Cage

This spring won’t see the playoffs but the club gave real effort in a tough barn last night on the way to a shootout loss. Leon Draisaitl delivered a fabulous effort, matched in net by Mikko Koskinen, and the Oilers grabbed a point on the road. Oh, for another four wins in the before time. Three of four points while McDavid was out with a suspension is a helluva story and that’s a fact. Now 97 prepares to kick out the jams in Ontario with some true rage in the cage. Music!

THE ATHLETIC!

The Athletic Edmonton features a fabulous cluster of stories (some linked below, some on the site). Great perspective from a ridiculous group of writers and analysts. Proud to be part of the group. Outstanding offer is here.

  • New Daniel Nugent-Bowman: After bringing in Sam Gagner and shipping out Cam Talbot, Oilers stand pat on deadline day.
  • Lowetide: Edmonton Oilers at the deadline: Buy, sell or both?
  • Jonathan Willis: Jesse Puljujarvi needs a fresh start, but there’s no reason it can’t be in Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Edmonton Oilers and the OHL.
  • Lowetide: Are the 2018-19 Bakersfield Condors the best Edmonton Oilers affiliate ever?
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: ‘One of the best hockey games ever’: An oral history of the 2014 women’s Olympic gold-medal game.
  • Lowetide: How can the Oilers successfully sell the new regime to a fan base that is openly angry?
  • Jonathan Willis: Oilers trade deadline primer: Focus should be on moves that make life easier for the next GM
  • Lowetide: Cam Talbot’s Oilers career a disappointment save one beautiful spring.
  • Jonathan Willis: Edmonton’s trade for Sam Gagner is a gamble well worth making.
  • Jonathan Willis: Inside the success of the Bakersfield Condors, and what it means for Edmonton
  • Lowetide: The Oilers sure have a lot of problems, but there is a simple solution.
  • Daniel Nugent-Bowman: Q&A: Keith Gretzky on the Oilers trade deadline plan, Andrej Sekera’s return and Jesse Puljujarvi’s season
  • Lowetide: Oilers’ potential roster upheaval might set a record for summer activity
  • Jonathan Willis: Teams should beware of these players at the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: It’s time for Oilers owner Daryl Katz to stand and deliver a winning organization.
  • Lowetide: Entry deal AHL forwards give the Oilers an excellent trade pool.
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL free agency period
  • Corey Pronman: 2019 NHL Draft midseason rankings
  • Jonathan Willis: An Oilers blueprint for the 2019 NHL trade deadline.
  • Lowetide: Edmonton’s 2019 entry draft plans may change with new GM but needs are clear
  • Lowetide: Complete Oilers top 20 prospects, Winter 2018

OILERS AFTER 62

  • Oilers in 2015: 22-34-6, 50 points; goal differential -34
  • Oilers in 2016: 33-21-8, 74 points; goal differential +12
  • Oilers in 2017: 27-31-4, 58 points; goal differential -33
  • Oilers in 2018: 26-29-7, 59 points; goal differential -23

Edmonton is on pace to finish 34-38-10, 78 points. That is a close match for last season (36-40-6, 78 points) and should be the expectation.

OILERS IN FEBRUARY

  • Oilers in February 2016: 2-10-0, four points; goal differential -22
  • Oilers in February 2017: 6-6-0, 12 points; goal differential -1
  • Oilers in February 2018: 4-7-1, nine points; goal differential -4
  • Oilers in February 2019: 3-5-4, 10 points; goal differential -10

This has been a ridiculous month and yet it is also the second best February of Connor McDavid’s time with the team. I think it’s a reflection of a team lacking balance and depth (not much help when injuries hit), but can be convinced otherwise.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN FEBRUARY

  • On the road to: Philadelphia, Montreal (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-2)
  • At home to: Chicago (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Pittsburgh, Carolina, NY Islanders (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, NY Islanders, Anaheim (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 2-0-1)
  • On the road to: Nashville, Toronto, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 0-0-1)
  • Overall expected result: 7-6-1, 15 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 3-5-4, 10 points in 12 games

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Sekera-Benning are doing good work, although the third pairing giving up a goal isn’t ideal. Were 11-4 in 9:25, 9-4 shots, 0-1 goals and 4-1 HDSC. Went 8-4 (0-1) in 5:54 against Jarnkrok-Turris-Sissons.
  • Nurse-Russell were 8-11 in 14:43, 3-3 shots, 0-1 goals and 0-2 HDSC. This pairing can’t move the puck effectively, Nashville forwards were waiting for Russell’s errant passes all night along the wall in the neutral zone. Went 4-3 in 5:31 against Boyle-Bonino-Grimaldi. Nurse had a dandy chance from a Leon feed.
  • Klefbom-Larsson went 10-28 in 19:49, 5-15 shots, no goals and 1-7 HDSC. That’s a drilling. Went 4-12 (3-8 shots) in 9:52 against Forsberg-Johansen-Arvidsson. Worried all night about the slash.
  • Mikko Koskinen stopped 36 of 38, .947. He was quality.
  • NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Gagner-Nuge-Kassian went 10-11 in 12:06, 6-7 shots, no goals and 3-2 HDSC. The timing was a little off for the trio, reflected in a pass from the slot by Gagner that missed a stationary (and open) Nuge by exactly one mile. They did skill things, just couldn’t cash.
  • Rieder-Draisaitl-Chiasson were 11-6 in 11:43, 7-5 shots no goals and 3-2 HDSC. Leon was the show, and Chiasson contributed but Rieder is having a helluva time with the hockey. Credit where due, he put himself in a reasonable scoring position several times, but honestly had little to show for it.
  • Lucic-Cave-Currie went 6-9 in 7:49, 3-5 shots, 0-1 goals and 0-2 HDSC. Lucic was a house by the side of the road on the first GA, Cave was also a day late and a dollar short.
  • Malone-Brodziak-Rattie were 4-6 in 5:40, 3-3 shots, no goals and 1-2 HDSC.

HERE COMES THE SUN

It was a curious deadline (even if you are offered a seventh-round pick for Alex Petrovic, and it’s five minutes to the deadline, then you should take it) but the message is clear: Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

Why? I’ll be writing about this (and other things) for my piece at The Athletic (out later today or tomorrow) but it’s a fascinating moment in the history of the Oilers.

The Condors won again, the streak now stands at 17 wins and counting. The team is now tied with the 2004-05 Philadelphia Phantoms for the second longest streak all-time. A great story, and surely the minor league team holds some future NHL players.

One thing we can talk about in the coming days: How many of Caleb Jones, Ethan Bear and William Lagesson will be NHL-ready next season? In keeping Matt Benning yesterday, the organization may have tipped its hand for the summer activity. We might see one of the Condors packaged with something else in an effort to upgrade No. 2 RHD, with the idea of running Larsson-???-Benning until one of Bear, Joel Persson or Evan Bouchard is ready. That’s the reasonable play here. The typical Oilers move? Put Bouchard on 2RHD opening night, trade Matt Benning for Connor Brown and let Persson and Bear fight it out for No. 3 RHD.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, we’re back with a massive amount of ground to cover. TSN1260, scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, The Athletic. Oilers at the deadline, as well as some of the big moves made across the NHL.
  • Jesse Granger, The Athletic. We’ll talk about the massive addition in Vegas and what it means for Golden Knights fans.
  • Murat Ates, The Athletic. The Winnipeg Jets made many transactions yesterday, we’ll talk about most of them.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. Professor Q says:

    Caller Zen: So when you said, “the Leafs price for Brown was Larsson, the Oilers walked at the price” – this was just total spitballing speculation. Which means the Oilers DIDN’T MAKE THE TRADE because the “current” managament is shifting away from the MO of previous management …it actually just means the Oilers DIDN’T MAKE THE TRADE because Larrson’s name was not brought up in trade discussions. Do you see the difference and how your unbrided optimism with rose-coloured glasses skews perception?

    To be fair, posters brought up the Larsson being involved thing and many freaked out about it, at an exaggerated level.

    So, to say that, if true that the Leafs tried to fleece the Oilers into giving them Larsson for Brown, which makes no sense anyway, the Oilers walking away is actually a good thing, not something to freak out about collectively as a fanbase like the sky is falling.

    The fact that Larsson was never involved is really irrelevant in this equation, other than to point out that Jimmy Murphy was full of shyte and that rumours can spread quickly, regardless of their source.

    It’s almost similar to how rumours of Hall for Ceci and then Hall for whoever else came out years after the trade, when in fact they never were there (there were people talking about trading for Ceci at the time of the Hall trade, but not for anything close to Hall).

    People freaked out about both scenarios all the same, as hard cold facts (yes, Ottawa rebuffed a Hall for Ceci trade, as did New York with Hamonic, because they’re both that stupid *eye-roll*), even though they are false rumours coming after the incident and then revived years after the incident to further mock the Oilers’ fanbase, and also never actually, physically, happened.

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    This is a great quote from Hitch: I’m not buying what he’s selling (and the players aren’t either,),, but I give him kudos:

    I know that for the first time in forever I’m seeing 3 Oilers on the defensive side of the puck on a regular basis.

    Maybe 62 games of Hitch is optimal?

    Enough so every player knows how he wants to play and plays it, but not enough so they actually revolt.

    Bitching is not the same as a revolt.

  3. Chelios is a Dinosaur says:

    The problem is that the Gainers strikers didn’t sieze the means of production when they had the chance. Liberation from this management group requires writing a people’s history of the Edmonton Oilers, learning from the past and organizing towards a triumphant future for all.

  4. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woogie63,

    4) No real need to trade for a 2RHD

    Sekera is capable of playing with Nurse

    I will fight you.

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    Caller Zen: So when you said, “the Leafs price for Brown was Larsson, the Oilers walked at the price” – this was just total spitballing speculation. Which means the Oilers DIDN’T MAKE THE TRADE because the “current” managament is shifting away from the MO of previous management …it actually just means the Oilers DIDN’T MAKE THE TRADE because Larrson’s name was not brought up in trade discussions. Do you see the difference and how your unbrided optimism with rose-coloured glasses skews perception?

    Do you see the point – management is taking vitriol for a bad trade that they didn’t’ make – whether it was tabled and they turned it down or not tabled at all, management did not make the trade but are being criticized for it.

    I’m not even a management apologist but I don’t understand criticizing them for a bad move that they never actually made.

  6. Darth Tu says:

    Wow, this all escalated in the last few hours.

    I can’t for one second believe that the Oilers would consider giving up Larsson for Brown. Possibly Benning, but even then we don’t know whether it was the Oil offering up Matt, or whether the Leafs asked for him, and we subsequently said no… This is all very silly.

  7. Professor Q says:

    Darth Tu:
    This is all very silly.

    Thus, Lowetide’s domain becomes Camelot.

  8. Darth Tu says:

    Professor Q: Thus, Lowetide’s domain becomes Camelot.

    Just wait till the Spanish Inquisition quotes begin…..

  9. deardylan says:

    What is the opposite of rose-coloured glasses?

    Who wants to wear those glasses?

    Go through life wearing those anti rose glasses and not many people will be showin up to that dudes funeral.

    Remind me of quote by Hugh MacLennan after a tragic outbreak of violence in Northern Ireland.

    He said ” the population of ulster is split between two religions,

    ..long pause…

    Anti-Protestantism and Anti-Catholicism”

  10. Turning Tikkanese says:

    Darth Tu,

    No one would EXPECT that…. (sitting on comfy cushions with the stuffing all in one end).

  11. JimmyV1965 says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    slopitch,

    I mean the sky has already fallen. This team has one of the worst NHL rosters in the league, below average prospect pool, and we are capped out with numerous dogshit contracts. The Oilers are in a worse spot now than they ever were before with the added bonus of wasting years of McDavid’s career.

    No one is thrilled with the Oilers right now, but the sky is not falling. We have two of the most difficult pieces to acquire in McDavid and Drai. You can’t trade for guys like this and you can draft first overall a dozen times and not get players like this. Building around these guys might be a monumental task for the current braintrust, but a good GM can rectify this is two years.

    I really take issue with the notion that we have a below average prospect pool. I don’t give a crap about any list some so-called expert comes up with, but your AHL team doesn’t win 17 games in a row with bad players. And they’re doing it with young, legit prospects, not a bunch of career minor leaguers.

    The Oil could very well suck until infinity because of our poor mngt, but this team can be fixed in a very short timeframe. Full stop.

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard with the primary assist on a 1st period PP goal – his point streak continues.

  13. OriginalPouzar says:

    Jethro Tull: The very first step in fixing anything is to accept the problem in it’s entirety.There’s optimism, then there’s an absolute unwillingness to accept the facts.They look a lot like each other, right up until it’s King Arthur vs. The Black Knight.

    ‘Tis but a scratch.

    The fact that these posts related to is the fact that the current interim management did not trade Larsson for Brown.

    The intimation that a Boston blogger/media person intimated that there was such a deal being discussed as fodder for us “being screwed” doesn’t make sense. If anything, it could show that current interim management is making better decisions than previous,

    The other theme of this thread is that “we are screwed” because the organization will not do a fulsome search for the new POHO and/or GM and Gretzky will be the guy based of the though process of our host. I respect his opinion but it is just that and not based on anything the organization has said or done and actually goes 100% against what is being said.

  14. Biggus Dickus says:

    JimmyV1965: No one is thrilled with the Oilers right now, but the sky is not falling. We have two of the most difficult pieces to acquire in McDavid and Drai. You can’t trade for guys like this and you can draft first overall a dozen times and not get players like this. Building around these guys might be a monumental task for the current braintrust, but a good GM can rectify this is two years.

    I really take issue with the notion that we have a below average prospect pool. I don’t give a crap about any list some so-called expert comes up with, but your AHL team doesn’t win 17 games in a row with bad players. And they’re doing it with young, legit prospects, not a bunch of career minor leaguers.

    The Oil could very well suck until infinity because of our poor mngt, but this team can be fixed in a very short timeframe. Full stop.

    Players 3-8 in scoring are career minor leaguers, but Colin McDonald had a career, so who knows. The defense is young and good though, so I have some hope there. The pieces we are missing are fairly hard to get. Maybe not individually, but when combined. A second liner is worth about a first round pick and a decent prospect. Now we need 3 unless you want to count Drai/Nuge and get a 1line wing or two. And 3C is worth more that you think.

    If minor leagues translated to the bigs, we’d all be watching the games. I’d like to see the numbers on how many 5+ season players come out of the AHL. My guess is it’s pretty low.

  15. OmJo says:

    Bag of Pucks: What do you want? I waterboard someone until they confess?

    *raises hand slowly*

    Maybe.

  16. Biggus Dickus says:

    OriginalPouzar: Do you see the point – management is taking vitriol for a bad trade that they didn’t’ make – whether it was tabled and they turned it down or not tabled at all, management did not make the trade but are being criticized for it.

    I’m not even a management apologist but I don’t understand criticizing them for a bad move that they never actually made.

    Usually they don’t make the bad trades through dumb luck (Clarkson,Heatley). Fan base if fed up, and about damn time.

  17. Bag of Pucks says:

    OriginalPouzar: The fact that these posts related to is the fact that the current interim management did not trade Larsson for Brown.

    The intimation that a Boston blogger/media person intimated that there was such a deal being discussed as fodder for us “being screwed” doesn’t make sense.If anything, it could show that current interim management is making better decisions than previous,

    The other theme of this thread is that “we are screwed” because the organization will not do a fulsome search for the new POHO and/or GM and Gretzky will be the guy based of the though process of our host.I respect his opinion but it is just that and not based on anything the organization has said or done and actually goes 100% against what is being said.

    Why should anyone care what Burgers says other than his statement that the new GM will need to fit with ‘the culture?’ That says it all. No house cleaning is going to happen.

    Why are you so invested in denying the power of the OBC when Burgers himself has admitted they discuss everything as a group?

    You act like people like Lowe, MacTavish and Howson are ancient and irrelevant history when they still fucking work for the organization, the latter two in Hockey Ops!

    You’re not optimistic. That’s too kind of a descriptor. You’re full blown in denial of objective reality.

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Kinger_Oil.redux,

    This is a great quote from Hitch: I’m not buying what he’s selling (and the players aren’t either,),, but I give him kudos:

    I know that for the first time in forever I’m seeing 3 Oilers on the defensive side of the puck on a regular basis.

    Maybe 62 games of Hitch is optimal?

    Enough so every player knows how he wants to play and plays it, but not enough so they actually revolt.

    Bitching is not the same as a revolt.

    If you take Hitch’s word and Spectors article from this morning at face value, Hitch has done great work with Leon and should be credited with his plus play recently.

    At the same time, I agree with your intimation that this type of conflict coaching likely is subject to a very quick expiry with today’s young pro athlete and Hitch simply cannot be here to start next season – at least not in a head coaching capacity.

  19. OriginalPouzar says:

    Biggus Dickus: Players 3-8 in scoring are career minor leaguers, but Colin McDonald had a career, so who knows. The defense is young and good though, so I have some hope there. The pieces we are missing are fairly hard to get. Maybe not individually, but when combined. A second liner is worth about a first round pick and a decent prospect. Now we need 3 unless you want to count Drai/Nuge and get a 1line wing or two. And 3C is worth more that you think.

    If minor leagues translated to the bigs, we’d all be watching the games. I’d like to see the numbers on how many 5+ season players come out of the AHL. My guess is it’s pretty low.

    Yes, Malone, Russell, Joe G. are important parts of the Condors but I have watched at least parts of almost every Condors’ game this year and the team is being led by the Marody/Benson line and now Kailer Yamamoto along with Jones and Lagesson (with the help of veterans Lowe and Stanton).

    Also, Joe G. is, while a more mature prospect, a 2nd year pro with a shot at a bottom 6 career.

    ————————–

    Aside from Bouchard, the prospect pool is likely devoid of a “potential star”, however, there is now a depth of real prospects, real skilled prospects that have decent shots at NHL careers.

    Each of th following in the AHL have a shot at actually being NHL ready next season: Benson, Marody, Joe G., Lagesson, Jones, Bear.

    Nope, they all won’t be ready next year (and maybe most won’t ever), however, the chances of graduating some real prospects with skill to help fill out the roster with value contracts is high.

    Jones projects to third pairing when he “makes it”, however, for all we know he develops in to a real top 4 guy – he’s an elite skater.

    Benson projects at this point to make it as a middle six guy, however, its not out of the question that the player with the skill level to be in the consideration for exceptional status may gel with Drai and become a top 6 guy.

    Dimitri Samorukov may never play an NHL game, he also has a crazy skill set and could may pop and become a top pairing guy – we don’t know.

    Krill Maksimov is a teenager and has the best shot of a forward since Jason Arnott (maybe Jarett Stoll) – he may never play an NHL game but, if he does “make it”, he may score 30 or more. Not to mention, he’s a responsible 2-way player, has a mean streak, is a plus penalty killer.

    The last two I only mention as top pairing / 30G scorers, not because its likely but because they have plus skill and you never know.

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    Biggus Dickus: Usually they don’t make the bad trades through dumb luck (Clarkson,Heatley). Fan base if fed up, and about damn time.

    and the fanbase should be fed up but, at the same time, that doesn’t warrant criticizing management for things they never did (trade Larssonn) and that haven’t happened (no thorough search before hiring KG) – in particular based off the veracity of the “information”

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whoa, after going down 2-0 to London, Guelph has scored 5 straight – Samorukov with a 2nd period assist – he keeps producing – over a PPG over his recent stretch.

  22. Jethro Tull says:

    The real issue is that absolutely none of us would have been surprised had the Larsson rumour turned out to be true.

    That is a sad testament to the state of this team.

    Hence, we are screwed. We are screwed because the guy that did a forensic audit and came up with Peter Chiarelli as an effective answer is going to choose, with the help of an all-star cast that has apparently had no input into anything during Chia’s reign of terror, the next guy who thinks exactly like he does.

    If this is something you can’t see, or refuse to see, then I feel for you and will be for you when we start talking about how losing is the best strategy in January 2020.

  23. leadfarmer says:

    How on earth did people get Benning or Kassian for Brown into Larson?
    If Larson was available there would be a lot of teams lining up

  24. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks: Why should anyone care what Burgers says other than his statement that the new GM will need to fit with ‘the culture?’ That says it all. No house cleaning is going to happen.

    Why are you so invested in denying the power of the OBC when Burgers himself has admitted they discuss everything as a group?

    You act like people like Lowe, MacTavish and Howson are ancient and irrelevant history when they still fucking work for the organization, the latter two in Hockey Ops!

    You’re not optimistic. That’s too kind of a descriptor. You’re full blown in denial of objective reality.

    I’m sorry, so you get to choose which statements from Nicholson are important and which are to be disregarded based on whatever fits your chosen narrative?

    Not once but twice, in separate appearances, Nicholson expressly mentioned the need for an organization shift in developing the prospects and leaving them in the AHL for longer.

    Not once, not twice but three times, in separate appearances, Nicholson expressly mentioned the fulsome search and even some details about approaching teams for consent to talk to AGMs.

    With that said, those substantive express comments on approach should be totally disregarded as straight out lies and meaningless but the fanbase should double and triple down on a nothing statement regarding “character”.

    Of course, general statements from upper management should be taken with caution, however the examples above were outright substantive statements on exactly what is going to happen on a couple of important fronts – they were expressed multiple times. Bob Nicholson is not stupid enough to just flat out lie to the fanbase, multiple times, with regard to verifiable courses of action.

    I will no longer correspond with you until you are able to show me more respect than you did in that last post which was uncalled for.

  25. Jethro Tull says:

    leadfarmer:
    How on earth did people get Benning or Kassian for Brown into Larson?
    If Larson was available there would be a lot of teams lining up

    NJD?

  26. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Whoa, after going down 2-0 to London, Guelph has scored 5 straight – Samorukov with a 2nd period assist – he keeps producing – over a PPG over his recent stretch.

    Keep the updates coming, OP! I’m on the road and not able to stream.

    *************

    Also, I wanted to apologize for my comment to you this morning. I’m pretty sure you weren’t offended and I was only trying to make a joke, but it’s a sensitive subject and I don’t really know what you went through / are going through, despite several similar cases in the extended family. It sounds like yours is a success story and for that i take my hat off to you, sir.

  27. just sayin says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I will use anything I can. I happen to agree with them.

  28. Bag of Pucks says:

    OriginalPouzar: I’m sorry, so you get to choose which statements from Nicholson are important and which are to be disregarded based on whatever fits your chosen narrative?

    Not once but twice, in separate appearances, Nicholson expressly mentioned the need for an organization shift in developing the prospects and leaving them in the AHL for longer.

    Not once, not twice but three times, in separate appearances, Nicholson expressly mentioned the fulsome search and even some details about approaching teams for consent to talk to AGMs.

    With that said, those substantive express comments on approach should be totally disregarded as straight out lies and meaningless but the fanbase should double and triple down on a nothing statement regarding “character”.

    Of course, general statements from upper management should be taken with caution, however the examples above were outright substantive statements on exactly what is going to happen on a couple of important fronts – they were expressed multiple times.Bob Nicholson is not stupid enough to just flat out lie to the fanbase, multiple times, with regard to verifiable courses of action.

    I will no longer correspond with you until you are able to show me more respect than you did in that last post which was uncalled for.

    Burgers said the same thing about Chiarelli. Are you forgetting?

    I don’t deny any of Burgers comments. I am sure he sincerely believes everything he says. But unless there is verbal confirming this organization plans to clean house, his fulsome search is meaningless. We’ve been down this road many many times and replacing the GM alone from Lowe to Tambellini to MacTavish to Chiarelli has been shown to accomplish exactly nothing.

    You place far too much stock in rhetoric when what truly matters are actions. And I care less if you find me disrespectful. I feel the same way about your oft delusional appraisal of this situation. It’s disrespectful to a community that has been paying close attention to this shell game for years.

  29. Yeti says:

    deardylan: What is the opposite of rose-coloured glasses?

    Shit stained lenses.

  30. leadfarmer says:

    Jethro Tull: NJD?

    With the move to small fast puck moving defensemen, defensemen that can actually defend are valuable

  31. Lowetide says:

    Each poster adds something to the group, so if you think one of us is a spy or a narc, you’ll just need to find a workaround. I’ve always suspected Woodguy of being an over the top thespian but am too nice to mention it.

  32. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: Keep the updates coming, OP! I’m on the road and not able to stream.

    *************

    Also,I wanted to apologize for my comment to you this morning. I’m pretty sure you weren’t offended and I was only trying to make a joke, but it’s a sensitive subject and I don’t really know what you went through / are going through, despite several similar cases in the extended family. It sounds like yours is a success story and for that i take my hat off to you, sir.

    The whiskey comment? Shit, no worries at all – hadn’t even crossed my mind since 8:30 this morning (or so). I wasn’t offended even one iota.

  33. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bouchard with a PPG early in the 3rd to go with his assist.

  34. Jethro Tull says:

    Lowetide:
    Each poster adds something to the group, so if you think one of us is a spy or a narc, you’ll just need to find a workaround. I’ve always suspected Woodguy of being an over the top thespian but am too nice to mention it.

    Well, I thought for the longest time his avatar was Jeremy Clarkson.

  35. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lowetide:
    Each poster adds something to the group, so if you think one of us is a spy or a narc, you’ll just need to find a workaround. I’ve always suspected Woodguy of being an over the top thespian but am too nice to mention it.

    I’ve never once suggested OP specifically is a shill. I simply suggested the Oilers doing this is a possibility, OP himself and others have assumed or inferred the association.

  36. Pescador says:

    OriginalPouzar: The whiskey comment?Shit, no worries at all – hadn’t even crossed my mind since 8:30 this morning (or so). I wasn’t offended even one iota.

    I was deeply offended on your behalf,
    this is the world we live in.

  37. OilersFuture says:

    OriginalPouzar: Can only retain up to 50%, so $3M max.

    Are you sure on this?

    https://www.capfriendly.com/players/carl-hagelin

    Pre-Salary Retained Cap Hit: $4,000,000
    Capitals Cap Hit: $1,875,000

  38. Nit64 says:

    Bag of Pucks: your oft delusional appraisal of this situation. It’s disrespectful to a community that has been paying close attention to this shell game for years

    ~ When you find that the *opinions* of other = disrespect you can always ask LT for his quick cure ~

  39. Clarkenstein says:

    Lowetide:
    Each poster adds something to the group, so if you think one of us is a spy or a narc, you’ll just need to find a workaround. I’ve always suspected Woodguy of being an over the top thespian but am too nice to mention it.

    A “thespian?” I think my thithter ith one of those!! (Mike Tyson circa 1995)

  40. Pescador says:

    Lowetide:
    Each poster adds something to the group, so if you think one of us is a spy or a narc, you’ll just need to find a workaround. I’ve always suspected Woodguy of being an over the top thespian but am too nice to mention it.

    He secretly takes acting classes
    Tells his wife he’s going to the bar

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bag of Pucks: Burgers said the same thing about Chiarelli. Are you forgetting?

    I don’t deny any of Burgers comments. I am sure he sincerely believes everything he says. But unless there is verbal confirming this organization plans to clean house, his fulsome search is meaningless. We’ve been down this road many many times and replacing the GM alone from Lowe to Tambellini to MacTavish to Chiarelli has been shown to accomplish exactly nothing.

    You place far too much stock in rhetoric when what truly matters are actions. And I care less if you find me disrespectful. I feel the same way about your oft delusional appraisal of this situation. It’s disrespectful to a community that has been paying close attention to this shell game for years.

    Wait a second, if they’ve never done a fulsome search, how can a fulsome search now be meaningless because “we’ve been down this road many time”? They haven’t been down this road many time.

    If you want to play that game then I believe you put too much stock in to absolute unverified speculation about the workings of upper management within the organization.

    Calling me delusional and disrespectful to the community because my opinion differs from your is extremely condescending and pretentious (not to mention extremely hypocritical) but I’m glad you mentioned it as its now clear that we no longer have a need to correspond. I am happy to discuss altering opinions regarding the Oilers, its fun and a purpose of the community, however, I have no desire to discuss with someone that cannot accept that their are alternative opinions and are making it personal and deriding my character.

    As an aside and regarding your “shill” comment, no I didn’t infer anything, I never responded to it at all so your post is factually incorrect.

    Have a great week – if you are in Alberta, I hope you keep warm!

  42. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilersFuture: Are you sure on this?

    https://www.capfriendly.com/players/carl-hagelin

    Pre-Salary Retained Cap Hit: $4,000,000
    Capitals Cap Hit: $1,875,000

    100% positive.

    The Penguins retained $250K in a previous transaction.

    The Kings were on the hook for a cap hit of $3,750,000 and retained half (50%) of the remaining so each of the Kings and Caps are on the hook for $1,875,000.

  43. Bag of Pucks says:

    OriginalPouzar: Wait a second, if they’ve never done a fulsome search, how can a fulsome search now be meaningless because “we’ve been down this road many time”? They haven’t been down this road many time.

    If you want to play that game then I believe you put too much stock in to absolute unverified speculation about the workings of upper management within the organization.

    Calling me delusional and disrespectful to the community because my opinion differs from your is extremely condescending and pretentious (not to mention extremely hypocritical) but I’m glad you mentioned it as its now clear that we no longer have a need to correspond.I am happy to discuss altering opinions regarding the Oilers, its fun and a purpose of the community, however, I have no desire to discuss with someone that cannot accept that their are alternative opinions and are making it personal and deriding my character.

    Have a great week – if you are in Alberta, I hope you keep warm!

    I’ve articulated very clearly and with numerous posts that the process they choose to hire the new GM is largely irrelevant if they don’t give this person the capacity to hire and fire everyone they choose to put in the crosshairs.

    This ‘fulsome’ search simply means defining a proper job spec and interviewing multiple candidates. That should be a core and basic expectation for any competent org, not proof of some transcendent come to Jesus revelation. The fact that you’re satisfied with this rhetoric as proof of progress is laughable. It’s baby steps in the truest sense.

    I can see how you’d be an effective lawyer. You’re very good at omitting the substantive facts of people’s positions to try and paint them as less than credible. But if you think you can do that with me, you better pack a fucking lunch.

  44. silasbengtsson says:

    OriginalPouzar: Can only retain up to 50%, so $3M max.

    The Oilers can only retain 50% but subsequent acquiring team seem to be able to retain up to 50% of the cap hit they acquired. As I’ve mentioned a couple times recently, the Hagelin trade shows this in action.

  45. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hayden Hawkey stops 14 of 16 in a 5-2 win.

    Not normal to see his save percentage anywhere near .900 let alone below but he did give up a goal very early, 1st or 2nd shot.

  46. JimmyV1965 says:

    Biggus Dickus: Players 3-8 in scoring are career minor leaguers, but Colin McDonald had a career, so who knows. The defense is young and good though, so I have some hope there. The pieces we are missing are fairly hard to get. Maybe not individually, but when combined. A second liner is worth about a first round pick and a decent prospect. Now we need 3 unless you want to count Drai/Nuge and get a 1line wing or two. And 3C is worth more that you think.

    If minor leagues translated to the bigs, we’d all be watching the games. I’d like to see the numbers on how many 5+ season players come out of the AHL. My guess is it’s pretty low.

    Legit prospects on the Condors are:
    Benson
    Marody
    Yamamoto
    Jones
    Lagesson
    Bear

    Players who likely won’t make it, but have a chance:
    Currie
    Gambardella
    Day

    Every one of these guys are in their first or second season of pro hockey, with the exception of Currie. The top six on my list are all 21 or under, except for Lagesson, who is 22. These are the guys driving the bus for the Condors. The few career minor leaguers on the team, like Russell and Malone, have been good, but are not the ones driving success.

    I didn’t mention Starrett, who has been incredible, but he’s a goalie so who knows.

    I’m sure OP can expand on this. He knows a lot more than me.

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    After a plus 7 performance with 3 apples on the weekend, Samorukov cooled off with only one assist and a plus 3.

  48. OilersFuture says:

    silasbengtsson: The Oilers can only retain 50% but subsequent acquiring team seem to be able to retain up to 50% of the cap hit they acquired. As I’ve mentioned a couple times recently, the Hagelin trade shows this in action.

    This is how i have understood it as well. Based on the Hagelin trade. I think each team can retain 50%. It doesn’t read clearly.

    From Cap Friendly
    When a team trades a player, they have the option to retain a part of their salary (and cap hit). The team who retains the salary then pays the retained percentage of the salary, and also retains the percentage of the cap hit until the contract expires. The following requirements must be met to retain salary:
    1. The percentage retained cannot exceed 50 percent of the player’s salary (including all bonuses) and Salary Cap Hit.
    2. The same percentage must be retained for both the player’s salary and Salary Cap Hit, and cannot be modified.
    3. All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.
    4. Teams cannot retain an aggregate amount of more than 15 percent of the Salary Cap Upper Limit.
    5. Players’ contracts are limited to 2 retained salary transactions per contract.

    By my understanding. The Oiler’s could retain up to 50% and then the Senators could turn around and retain up to 50%. I could be wrong.

  49. Klima's_Bucket says:

    Whose hit was worse?

    McDavid on Leddy
    Simmonds on Dumoulin
    Perry on Nurse
    or tonights
    Chara on Kane

  50. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide:
    Each poster adds something to the group, so if you think one of us is a spy or a narc, you’ll just need to find a workaround. I’ve always suspected Woodguy of being an over the top thespian but am too nice to mention it.

    Is that because when it comes to handedness, he doesn’t always playwright?

  51. JimmyV1965 says:

    I don’t get the hate for Nicholson. He hired a GM from outside the organization and was widely applauded for it. It turned out to be a disasterous decision. But he admitted to not conducting a full blown GM search and took ownership of the mistake. He’s now said he intends to conduct a proper GM search and will not repeat that same mistake.

  52. ArmchairGM says:

    Pescador: I was deeply offended on your behalf,
    this is the world we live in.

    Ha! If it makes you feel better, “red wine” is the least popular metaphor on this blog.

  53. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilersFuture: This is how i have understood it as well.Based on the Hagelin trade.I think each team can retain 50%.It doesn’t read clearly.

    From Cap Friendly
    When a team trades a player, they have the option to retain a part of their salary (and cap hit). The team who retains the salary then pays the retained percentage of the salary, and also retains the percentage of the cap hit until the contract expires. The following requirements must be met to retain salary:
    1. The percentage retained cannot exceed 50 percent of the player’s salary (including all bonuses) and Salary Cap Hit.
    2. The same percentage must be retained for both the player’s salary and Salary Cap Hit, and cannot be modified.
    3. All teams are limited to a maximum of 3 retained salary contracts per season.
    4. Teams cannot retain an aggregate amount of more than 15 percent of the Salary Cap Upper Limit.
    5. Players’ contracts are limited to 2 retained salary transactions per contract.

    By my understanding.The Oiler’s could retain up to 50% and then the Senators could turn around and retain up to 50%.I could be wrong.

    The Oilers can retain 50% of the Lucic contract in a trade to, say Ottawa, so that each team is on the hook for 50% of his compensation and cap hit.

    Ottawa can retain 50% of the $3M its on the hook for in a trade to, say, Carolina, so that each of Ottawa is on the hook for $1.5M

    Lucic – $6M

    EDM: $3M
    OTT: $1.5M
    CAR $1.5M

    In Hagelin’s case, PIT retained $250K and then, in a subsequent trade, LAK retained 50% of the $3,750,000

    Hagelin – $4M

    PIT: $250K
    LAK: $1,875,000
    WSH: $1,875,000

  54. silasbengtsson says:

    OriginalPouzar: The Oilers can retain 50% of the Lucic contract in a trade to, say Ottawa, so that each team is on the hook for 50% of his compensation and cap hit.

    Ottawa can retain 50% of the $3M its on the hook for in a trade to, say, Carolina, so that each of Ottawa is on the hook for $1.5M

    Lucic – $6M

    EDM: $3M
    OTT: $1.5M
    CAR $1.5M

    In Hagelin’s case, PIT retained $250K and then, in a subsequent trade, LAK retained 50% of the $3,750,000

    Hagelin – $4M

    PIT: $250K
    LAK: $1,875,000
    WSH: $1,875,000

    And then maybe that team decides to buy him out and lessen the cap burden even more 😅

  55. OilersFuture says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Exactly! That was my point in the previous note. I believe Lucic’s will have value to some team at approximately 2.5 –> 3 million dollars.

    The Oiler’s retain 25%. The cap hit for the Senators is 4.5 but real dollars is 12 million.
    The Oilers take back Condon’s contract (3 million real money and 2.4 cap hit that is buried in the minors and is only counting as 1,325,000 against the cap.
    If the Sens take on 45% that’s just over 2 million cap for four years. But it would only cost Melynk 5.4 million. Or only 2.4 million above and beyond the Condon contract.

    The Suter/Parise contracts are too much money. They are owed 27 million and 17 over the next two seasons. The Seabrook deal is 24 million. The cap hit for the Senators is more important than the player/assets.

    Melnyk doesn’t have much money right now. So he needs players that aren’t owed much reall money. Players that could work for; Louie Eriksson (6 million cap hit – only owed 9 million over 3 years after July 1st), Backes (6 million cap hit – real money 8 million over two years) & Jeff Carter (5.273 cap hit owed 7 million over 3 years).

  56. deardylan says:

    Yeti,

    LOL. I flushed those down in the toilet years ago after watching trainspotting. #rainbowsoftcontacts

  57. OriginalPouzar says:

    Samorukov got annialated in the third period – don’t believe he returned (at least he drew a 5 min PP for his team):

    https://twitter.com/TheOilKnight/status/1100581178703151104

    Here is Samorukov’s CLEAN hit from earlier in the year:

    https://twitter.com/mtl_prospects/status/1095864226667786240

  58. deardylan says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Who needs matlock vs. macgyver when you got Bags of OPucks?

  59. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar: 100% positive.

    The Penguins retained $250K in a previous transaction.

    The Kings were on the hook for a cap hit of $3,750,000 and retained half (50%) of the remaining so each of the Kings and Caps are on the hook for $1,875,000.

    So it is possible then that we trade Lucic in a three-way deal with us retaining $2 mill, team B retaining $2 mill and the final team paying the final $2 mill. Just as long as they are separate and distinct transactions.

  60. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yes

  61. silasbengtsson says:

    JimmyV1965: So it is possible then that we trade Lucic in a three-way deal with us retaining $2 mill, team B retaining $2 mill and the final team paying the final $2 mill. Just as long as they are separate and distinct transactions.

    Most definitely is. Or some iteration of that depending on how much the Oilers care to pay in assets for the intermediary team and how much dead cap space they’re prepared to have.

  62. anjinsan says:

    Why isn’t there more anger and instead so much piecing together of Lincoln logs?

  63. Lowetide says:

    Bag of Pucks: I’ve never once suggested OP specifically is a shill. I simply suggested the Oilers doing this is a possibility, OP himself and others have assumed or inferred the association.

    Well you’re the one who put two and two together and came up with “Lowetide must be talking about me” so there’s that.

  64. Lowetide says:

    anjinsan:
    Why isn’t there more anger and instead so much piecing together of Lincoln logs?

    I think we’re 15 miles out of Barstow and running on empty.

  65. Bag of Pucks says:

    deardylan:
    Bag of Pucks,

    Who needs matlock vs. macgyver when you got Bags of OPucks?

    Fully appreciate it probably comes across as over the top, but I’m strongly of the opinion that the Oilers brass don’t need to have their asses kissed anymore. What they need is the realization that 13 years of this is far more than enough for this long suffering fanbase. They need to get it right this time and right is not more of this OBC optics and spin BS. It’s actual sweeping and impactful actions to clean house and install competent leadership and process from top to bottom.

  66. Bag of Pucks says:

    Lowetide: Well you’re the one who put two and two together and came up with “Lowetide must be talking about me” so there’s that.

    I put two and two together because I respect the math heritage of this site. 🙂

  67. stephen sheps says:

    Lowetide: I think we’re 15 miles out of Barstow and running on empty.

    We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like “I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive. …” And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about 100 miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas. And a voice was screaming: “Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?”

    Then it was quiet again. My attorney had taken his shirt off and was pouring beer on his chest, to facilitate the tanning process. “What the hell are you yelling about?” he muttered, staring up at the sun with his eyes closed and covered with wraparound Spanish sunglasses. “Never mind,” I said. “It’s your turn to drive.” I hit the brakes and aimed the Great Red Shark toward the shoulder of the highway. No point mentioning those bats, I thought. The poor bastard will see them soon enough.

    It was almost noon, and we still had more than 100 miles to go. They would be tough miles. Very soon, I knew, we would both be completely twisted. But there was no going back, and no time to rest. We would have to ride it out. Press registration for the fabulous Mint 400 was already underway, and we had to get there by four to claim our soundproof suite. A fashionable sporting magazine in New York had taken care of the reservations, along with this huge red Chevy convertible we’d just rented off a lot on the Sunset Strip … and I was, after all, a professional journalist; so I had an obligation to cover the story, for good or ill.

    Sorry LT – you mentioned Barstow and this is the only thing I can picture in my mind whenever that town comes up.

  68. Ice Sage says:

    Fear and Loathing on Kingsway?

    Here’s an a propos Hunter S Thompson quote,

    “As far as I’m concerned, it’s a damned shame that a field (team) as potentially dynamic and vital as journalism (the Oilers) should be overrun with dullards, bums, and hacks, hag-ridden with myopia, apathy, and complacence, and generally stuck in a bog of stagnant mediocrity”

  69. stephen sheps says:

    Ice Sage,

    Drug and counterculture associations aside, few writers had a better command of the English language than the great HST. He’s a massive influence on me both as a writer and a researcher. Hells Angels was one of the earliest examples of ethnography. I have occasionally used it as a teaching tool for research methods, believe it or not.

  70. Glovjuice says:

    Andy Dufresne: Agreed opportunity missed yesterday. Maybe not a huge deal, but enough to prevent KG from becomig the GM. Unless of course, what he said turns out to be correct and by standing pat we somehow turn this thing around and make the playoffs.

    No big deal, but I find the language KG uses to be mildy annoying…..”there were no deals to be had….I wasnt going to give players away….the offers just werent good”as if he doesnt appreciate that ITS HIS JOB to CREATE the opportunites….to get creative…to create demand for your assets…to push the envelope…..to out negotiate the other guy.The lanuage is very static, very bereft of action words.“we had alot of good conversations”……….Well put down that fucking donut, stop talking and get back to work.

    Its a small thing perhaps….just a few cuts….on the road to 1000

    To be fair….it may have been and probably was his goal personally (what he perceived to be in his best interest) and the goal of the organization to be able to say “we didnt want to send the message that we were throwing in the towel” AND that they want to be ble to say, “alot of good conversation occured that set up some potentially good things for the summer.”

    Andy Dufresne: Agreed opportunity missed yesterday. Maybe not a huge deal, but enough to prevent KG from becomig the GM. Unless of course, what he said turns out to be correct and by standing pat we somehow turn this thing around and make the playoffs.

    No big deal, but I find the language KG uses to be mildy annoying…..”there were no deals to be had….I wasnt going to give players away….the offers just werent good”as if he doesnt appreciate that ITS HIS JOB to CREATE the opportunites….to get creative…to create demand for your assets…to push the envelope…..to out negotiate the other guy.The lanuage is very static, very bereft of action words.“we had alot of good conversations”……….Well put down that fucking donut, stop talking and get back to work.

    Its a small thing perhaps….just a few cuts….on the road to 1000

    To be fair….it may have been and probably was his goal personally (what he perceived to be in his best interest) and the goal of the organization to be able to say “we didnt want to send the message that we were throwing in the towel” AND that they want to be ble to say, “alot of good conversation occured that set up some potentially good things for the summer.”

    Fantastic post AD. KG just sounds (and acted) average in intellect to me. I could have said what he did for fak sakes. Oh, and KTOWN. Great posts – brilliant.

  71. Glovjuice says:

    Dipsy Doodle Dandy:
    If there’s one thing I want you to learn from reading this, it’s that complaining has zero value. Looking at the negative, seeing the glass as half empty, and complaining are some of the biggest wastes of time a human being can engage in. Instead, tackle the problem head on. Assess it, see what you can do about it, and then do just that. “Woe is me” is truly one of the biggest things that can stand in the way of success both professionally and personally.

    LOL – this is silly.

  72. JimmyV1965 says:

    stephen sheps:
    Ice Sage,

    Drug and counterculture associations aside, few writers had a better command of the English language than the great HST. He’s a massive influence on me both as a writer and a researcher. Hells Angels was one of the earliest examples of ethnography. I have occasionally used it as a teaching tool for research methods, believe it or not.

    I read Fear and Loathing up to the part where he took LSD two days in a row. Anyone who actually tried LSD never took it two days in a row. It was really early into the book.

  73. Dr. Taboggan says:

    JimmyV1965,

    Last time I went to Bonnaroo there were plenty of people doing LSD two days in a row…

  74. Pescador says:

    JimmyV1965: I read Fear and Loathing up to the part where he took LSD two days in a row. Anyone who actually tried LSD never took it two days in a row. It was really early into the book.

    I can see how someone could take LSD 2 days in a row by accident. Haha
    I always interpreted his drug trips as him taking anything & everything all at once essentially chasing the dragon.
    But not in the same way addicts do,
    More like fiends

  75. Halfwise says:

    I have read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas more times than any other book. But the last time might have been 30 years ago.

    “Shoot the nipples off a ten foot bull dyke and win a cotton candy goat” still strikes me as a perfect metaphor for an awful lot of life. Aim at something bizarre, hit it, and win something insignificant.

    Oddly enough there were some examples of this in the thread today.

  76. Pescador says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    JimmyV1965,

    Last time I went to Bonnaroo there were plenty of people doing LSD two days in a row…

    Kinda the same as taking several hits at once, knowing full well you’re going to be high for at least 2 days

  77. Glovjuice says:

    Halfwise:
    I have read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas more times than any other book. But the last time might have been 30 years ago.

    “Shoot the nipples off a ten foot bull dyke and win a cotton candy goat” still strikes me as a perfect metaphor for an awful lot of life. Aim at something bizarre, hit it, and win something insignificant.

    Oddly enough there were some examples of this in the thread today.

    Sexy Webster is a Sack Blabbath.

  78. Sierra says:

    If only there was this much piss’n’vinegar at the season ticket holders meetings.

  79. Lowetide says:

    Bag of Pucks: I put two and two together because I respect the math heritage of this site. 🙂

    🙂

  80. pts2pndr says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Woogie63,


    4) No real need to trade for a 2RHD

    Sekera is capable of playing with Nurse

    I will fight you.

    Thanks Woodguy! It is this thinking that has got us where we are! It is why Russel was signed when the correct move was to acquire a true top four right side D. Was wrong then and is still wrong way thinking!

  81. pts2pndr says:

    JimmyV1965: No one is thrilled with the Oilers right now, but the sky is not falling. We have two of the most difficult pieces to acquire in McDavid and Drai. You can’t trade for guys like this and you can draft first overall a dozen times and not get players like this. Building around these guys might be a monumental task for the current braintrust, but a good GM can rectify this is two years.

    I really take issue with the notion that we have a below average prospect pool. I don’t give a crap about any list some so-called expert comes up with, but your AHL team doesn’t win 17 games in a row with bad players. And they’re doing it with young, legit prospects, not a bunch of career minor leaguers.

    The Oil could very well suck until infinity because of our poor mngt, but this team can be fixed in a very short timeframe. Full stop.

    Plus 1. Great post!

  82. Maoriduvpoojt says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Samorukov got annialated in the third period – don’t believe he returned (at least he drew a 5 min PP for his team):

    https://twitter.com/TheOilKnight/status/1100581178703151104

    Here is Samorukov’s CLEAN hit from earlier in the year:

    https://twitter.com/mtl_prospects/status/1095864226667786240

    Samorukov did not return.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5001397/guelph-outguns-london-knights-budweiser-gardens/?utm_source=Article&utm_medium=Outbrain&utm_campaign=2015

  83. JimmyV1965 says:

    Dr. Taboggan:
    JimmyV1965,

    Last time I went to Bonnaroo there were plenty of people doing LSD two days in a row…

    The thing is with LSD you build up a tolerance to it almost instantly. If you take 1 hit on day 1, you have to take 3 hits on day 2 and a ridiculous amount on day 3. And the high isn’t nearly as enjoyable.

  84. pts2pndr says:

    Bag of Pucks: Burgers said the same thing about Chiarelli. Are you forgetting?

    I don’t deny any of Burgers comments. I am sure he sincerely believes everything he says. But unless there is verbal confirming this organization plans to clean house, his fulsome search is meaningless. We’ve been down this road many many times and replacing the GM alone from Lowe to Tambellini to MacTavish to Chiarelli has been shown to accomplish exactly nothing.

    You place far too much stock in rhetoric when what truly matters are actions. And I care less if you find me disrespectful. I feel the same way about your oft delusional appraisal of this situation. It’s disrespectful to a community that has been paying close attention to this shell game for years.

    Your comments over the last few days while showing passion for the Oilers truly scares me for your mental well being. You have yourself in a very dark place! The management of this team have made mistakes! Their collective character assasination is over the top and unwarranted! They all have had varying degrees of success in their field. You have every right to question some of their decisions or actions! This can and should be done with respect!

  85. Wilde says:

    I think I might have Turcotte in the Cozens/Dach cluster.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maoriduvpoojt: Samorukov did not return.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5001397/guelph-outguns-london-knights-budweiser-gardens/?utm_source=Article&utm_medium=Outbrain&utm_campaign=2015

    Thanks – no surprise given he hit his head on the ice. Hopefully he is OK.

  87. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lets see – McDavid hasn’t played the last few games due to suspension. He should be 100% healthy and over his sickness and well rested. The game is on national television against the Maple Leafs.

    I anticipate McDavid will have his legs tonight….

  88. Wilde says:

    I think Detroit, Anaheim, LA and Ottawa are too bad to catch.

    The tank battle looks like it’s between us, New Jersey, and Chicago for #5 lottery seeding.

    The Oilers have the worst point % since Klefbom returned besides those four locks plus Dallas and surprisingly Winnipeg. Actually, Vancouver’s tied. The Devils have the worst 5-on-5 corgis, but the Oilers have the worst GF%. They’ve gotten a little ‘lucky’ in converting 5v5 GF% to points, but ‘unlucky’ in converting CF% to GF%

    In conclusion, feed me more children of promise.

  89. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Lets see – McDavid hasn’t played the last few games due to suspension.He should be 100% healthy and over his sickness and well rested.The game is on national television against the Maple Leafs.

    I anticipate McDavid will have his legs tonight….

    Let’s just hope that Kadri doesn’t try anything, which will likely go uncalled.

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wilde:
    I think Detroit, Anaheim, LA and Ottawa are too bad to catch.

    The tank battle looks like it’s between us, New Jersey, and Chicago for #5 lottery seeding.

    The Oilers have the worst point % since Klefbom returned besides those four locks plus Dallas and surprisingly Winnipeg. Actually, Vancouver’s tied. The Devils have the worst 5-on-5 corgis, but the Oilers have the worst GF%. They’ve gotten a little ‘lucky’ in converting 5v5 GF% to points, but ‘unlucky’ in converting CF% to GF%

    In conclusion, feed me more children of promise.

    Bah – the final standings will be what they will be and the lottery balls will fall where they will.

    The Oilers play tonight and there are plenty of stories to be told:

    – will Drai continue his elite play with McDavid back or start defering?

    – will Nuge set a career high in points

    – will Sekera continue to show that he indeed is Andrej Sekera

    – will the Oilers get points in 5 straight games

  91. deardylan says:

    stephen sheps: We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like “I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive. …” And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about 100 miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas. And a voice was screaming: “Holy Jesus! What are these goddamn animals?”

    Then it was quiet again. My attorney had taken his shirt off and was pouring beer on his chest, to facilitate the tanning process. “What the hell are you yelling about?” he muttered, staring up at the sun with his eyes closed and covered with wraparound Spanish sunglasses. “Never mind,” I said. “It’s your turn to drive.” I hit the brakes and aimed the Great Red Shark toward the shoulder of the highway. No point mentioning those bats, I thought. The poor bastard will see them soon enough.

    It was almost noon, and we still had more than 100 miles to go. They would be tough miles. Very soon, I knew, we would both be completely twisted. But there was no going back, and no time to rest. We would have to ride it out. Press registration for the fabulous Mint 400 was already underway, and we had to get there by four to claim our soundproof suite. A fashionable sporting magazine in New York had taken care of the reservations, along with this huge red Chevy convertible we’d just rented off a lot on the Sunset Strip … and I was, after all, a professional journalist; so I had an obligation to cover the story, for good or ill.

    Sorry LT – you mentioned Barstow and this is the only thing I can picture in my mind whenever that town comes up.

    Haha. I thought of Springsteen driving his motorbike singing his classic “Dry Lightning” although now all i can see is Acid Bats. Keep the Hunter quotes coming Sheps! #Macrodosing

    Dry Lightning by Bruce
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUiYuYVahOU

  92. Bag of Pucks says:

    pts2pndr: Your comments over the last few days while showing passion for the Oilers truly scares me for your mental well being. You have yourself in a very dark place! The management of this team have made mistakes! Their collective character assasination is over the top and unwarranted! They all have had varying degrees of success in their field. You have every right to question some of their decisions or actions! This can and should be done with respect!

    Thanks for your concern, but aside from the hockey team I cheer for, I have a very happy and fulfilled life. For me however, apathy is rarely a viable option and that is a crucial component it seems in giving this org the benefit of the doubt.

    In regards to respect, I’m of the opinion that it’s earned not deserved. What has the OBC done to earn our respect over the last 12 years?

  93. deardylan says:

    Peter Chiarelli. He haunts us still.

  94. Jeremy says:

    Professor Q,

    Pretty sure Kadri is out, hasn’t skated since his concussion late last week.

  95. Wilde says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I like the story where we devour elite talent

  96. v4ance says:

    Lowetide:
    Each poster adds something to the group, so if you think one of us is a spy or a narc, you’ll just need to find a workaround. I’ve always suspected Woodguy of being an over the top thespian but am too nice to mention it.

    I always thought Woodguy was an “adult thespian”…. one of my college nicknames was “stuntcock” so I think I know a thing or two about Wood if there’s any concern…. actually I was a virgin and they were just making fun of me :p

  97. Nit64 says:

    OriginalPouzar:

    I anticipate McDavid will have his legs tonight….

    ~ That’s only ‘cuz Kadri is out ~

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